Liverpool Banter Archive January 07 2018

 

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07 Jan 2018 23:27:25
Hi guys.
Long time reader first time poster.
I'm just curious, I've seen unconfirmed reports stating Milan will be entitled to some of Coutinho's fee. Surely after 5 years Milan can't be expecting a slice of the pie.
My question therfore is, do sell on fees have exportation dates?

Thanks guys.

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{Ed002's Note - Sell on fees don’t but development payments do.}

08 Jan 2018 09:31:30
Cheers Ed002.


07 Jan 2018 23:10:10
I haven't a clue who we are going to sign. FACT!

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07 Jan 2018 23:19:29
Honestly we might not sign anyone else klopp isn't very proactive in January an likes too work his squad it seems, I think only slight chance is bringing keita ahead of schedule even that only a very slight possibility.


07 Jan 2018 23:31:16
Nobody does . It’s pounyreading rumours and speculation. Just wait until it happens.


07 Jan 2018 23:33:49
If we sign Lemar, he'll play in red. Fact.


07 Jan 2018 23:54:40
Adam, I can guarantee you that Lemar WILL play in red in February. I would stake my mortgage on it 😉.


07 Jan 2018 23:59:29
Who really knows until the end of January.


08 Jan 2018 01:16:33
I agree with hailstones, it would be classic liverpool if we weren’t to bring in a replacement this window.


08 Jan 2018 11:00:28
It would be classic Klopp to not panic buy for the sake of panic buying as that is not his thing and I completely agree with that.


07 Jan 2018 22:26:08
I've seen a few people refer to someone that goes by the name of wonderdogsparky or something to that tune on Twitter, so I've had a little nosey at it .

Can someone please explain what my eyes have just seen. are they cryptic clues or is this person just high as fu $k.

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07 Jan 2018 22:34:43
It’s one of the greatest things on twitter.


07 Jan 2018 22:39:53
Why can't it be both of those things, Jimmy?

After all, a part time rodeo clown, full time message board moderator, with several ex wives needs to be able to kick back once in a while.


07 Jan 2018 22:55:10
Do you not think that the majority of it has already been spent on Vvd? I can't believe for one seconds that Liverpool would have spent that amount without knowing the money was coming in to balance the book's.


07 Jan 2018 22:15:08
Just want to hear people's opinions.

Would you rather we spent the Coutinho money in this January transfer window, where the players Klopp and the club want will be difficult to acquire, and possibly require purchase at exorbitant prices.

Or, keep the money and spend it in the summer where teams might be more willing to part with their players considering they would have more time to find replacements?

For me, I am really split. My heart says spend now because we have lost a huge player which might affect our progress into the top 4 places. My head, is saying keep it and use it wisely in the summer, allowing more time to scout other potential players.

Would be interested to hear people's opinions.

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07 Jan 2018 22:27:00
Are you some sort of mind reader, Mango? I have literally just sent the exact same question as a post!

I'm also torn, but on balance I'd prefer to get someone now, even if they are cup tied in the CL. Dropping out of the top 4 is too big a gamble, imo.


07 Jan 2018 22:27:00
Are you some sort of mind reader, Mango? I have literally just sent the exact same question as a post!

I'm also torn, but on balance I'd prefer to get someone now, even if they are cup tied in the CL. Dropping out of the top 4 is too big a gamble, imo.


07 Jan 2018 22:44:24
Good question. Firstly, we should go all out to get Naby Keita in now I reckon. Beyond that, try and get the long term targets across the line now but if not possible, don’t compromise on the quality just to get bodies in January. if we can’t get Lemar / Pulisic now, we shouldn’t lower our sights for a Mahrez or Lanzini now (for example) .

Better to use what we have, although NK is a must I reckon.


07 Jan 2018 22:46:11
Good question Mango and for me it's also a tricky one. This season I believe the aim is to qualify again for CL football and maybe a domestic cup. As it stands there are 3 places for CL football next season (excluding City) and 5 teams competing for them. If we plan to recruit in the summer then our player window will depend massively on whether we are in the CL or not. Failing to prepare for Couts departure this window which surely the club knew was happening could prove to be our undoing. If we do not recruit in jan and qualify for the CL then the gamble would have paid off and we can strengthen in the summer with the quality that will continue to move us forward. If however we don't recruit and miss out on CL and get Europa then it could be a case of 1 step forward 2 steps back.


07 Jan 2018 22:56:51
It depends on if the required quality is available. If it isn't, then Klopp will (rightly) keep his powder dry and wait until summer.
Klopp isn't going to sign just anybody to keep whinging fans happy, he's proved that with Keita and VvD.
My guess is it'll be summer. but you never know with Klopp.


07 Jan 2018 23:01:51
Would like to see the first team strengthened be it phils permenant replacement a defensive mid or a keeper maybe two of the above. would prefer them now to bed in ready for next season but if the right player is unavailable don't waste the money now.


07 Jan 2018 23:14:18
If we can get our maintargets now yes, if not wait- don't spend money for the sake of it!


07 Jan 2018 23:19:42
I think it's more a question of money. I believe we will probably get a better deal on our main targets in the summer, but we can probably get them now for more money - I'm thinking Lemar, Goretzka (maybe), Meyer, or Naby early. On balance I'd rather spend some more money now than risk losing out on CL prestige and money next season.


07 Jan 2018 23:27:59
We should've already had someone in mind. It's a disgrace if we don't replace him.


07 Jan 2018 23:33:02
I’d be happy spending if rs what Klopp wants and we’re not paying silly money on Andy Carroll types but at the end of the day we’re fans Klopp a paid to make decisions and I trust him.


07 Jan 2018 23:54:52
Remember that prices are likely to be hiked after the World Cup. So buying in summer could be worse.


08 Jan 2018 00:23:12
A huge chunk of it went on VVD.


08 Jan 2018 01:31:46
I’d be happy for us to pay up a bit more to get NK, Goretzka or Lemar in, but we shouldn’t knee jerk for a second tier option if they aren’t abailable.


08 Jan 2018 04:49:13
Just want the players klopp is happy with. They'll come now or in july / aug, i don't mind.


08 Jan 2018 06:01:00
If we fail to get CL for 2018/ 19 I am concerned that this will hamper our ability to buy a top draw player in the summer.
We should go all out to get somebody now imo.


08 Jan 2018 11:03:23
If no one will sell their best player to you in Jan (which is what would be required to replace Cou in some way), there is nothing anyone can do and no amount of whinging fans will make them sell to us. If we can get someone this Jan that Klopp wants, great. If we can't, NO PANIC BUYS, go with what we have and keep your money till the summer.


07 Jan 2018 21:56:20
It is going TO be weird seing couts play for barca, he will be missed a touch of class like that any team would.

But I think the club got an excellent deal would you swap 50m and couts for neymar. Hypothetical of course.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool could not afford Neymar.}

07 Jan 2018 23:14:24
Easy remedy. don't watch Barca!
I certainly won't.


08 Jan 2018 11:03:52
I don't watch them that much so it will be all the same for me.


07 Jan 2018 21:28:50
A quick question for eds002 and a welcome relief from transfers, I’ve read Amazon are looking to bid in the next round of tv rights, is this streaming rights or are they going all in and taking on sky and bt for the whole show.

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{Ed002's Note - Amazon are potential bidders when television rights come up for various sports - they already have some sports such as tennis in their growing portfolio. Again Google and Netflix are potential bidders as well. The Premier League rights will be too expensive for them to be bidding the whole thing but if small packages were to be sold they are potential buyers. They would each be looking to be using their streaming capabilities but would need to abide by the PL/FL rules for streaming within the UK - in the same way as clubs who sell live streaming of their games do now. In the longer term things will change significantly, but not before 2022.}

07 Jan 2018 22:01:05
May I ask Ed, what happens in 2022?


{Ed002's Note - it is the next call for TV rights. Doncaster Rovers are the surprise winners of the FA cup, Stephen Gerrard gets an early release from prison (again) and Liverpool manager, John Terry, is knighted.}

07 Jan 2018 22:13:14
Lol brilliant!


07 Jan 2018 22:19:08
Hahaha love it ed.


07 Jan 2018 22:22:20
hahaha. Holyyyy sh*t. How frightening! What next? Donald Trump for president!?


07 Jan 2018 22:14:55
Stick to the day job, Ed002, Mystic Meg has nothing to fear! 😂😂.


07 Jan 2018 22:49:24
In Germany, a company called DAZN hold the PL rights. Sky Sports Germany lost them about a year ago. We call DAZN the Netflix of sports.

Costs 10€ a month the streams are really good. I think we will see a similar developement in the UK at some point in the future.


{Ed002's Note - Not for live games.}

08 Jan 2018 00:05:02
Not doubting you Ed’s but surly amazon and google have deep enough pockets particularly 4/ 5 yrs down the line if they start getting the infrastructure in place.


{Ed002's Note - It is not their core business just an add on.}

08 Jan 2018 02:07:58
Hahahah brilliant ed002 and if terry is manager and getting knighted he must of won something for us then, the futures bright 😂.


07 Jan 2018 21:40:18
Ed002, I'm intrigued, your from America am I correct? if not apologies I'm getting mistaken. If so where is it you are from? and do you still reside in the states.

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{Ed002's Note - I am but I left there in 1981. I was born near Seattle but grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area.}

07 Jan 2018 21:49:27
Oh I see! Cheers for sharing. Been to San Francisco before and absolutely loved it!


07 Jan 2018 22:26:37
Around 36 years ago then Ec002. What nationality would you consider yourself?


{Ed002's Note - I still have a US passport and I have some complications regarding various work permits that will need to be resolved by getting a different passport - probably British in the next 2 years. My other passport options are limited right now.}

07 Jan 2018 22:50:29
Ed 02 were you a football fan over in the states or has it been since the move? Apologies if it's a personal question.


{Ed002's Note - I am not really a fan. In the 70s we had the NASL which was not that popular.}

07 Jan 2018 23:57:58
So how did you acquire all this football knowledge? Did you interest in the sport lead you into the business side or did you get involved in business and then learn more about football? Also do you have an equal interest/ knowledge about any other sport? ?


{Ed002's Note - I picked it up mainly from Twitter. I have a reasonable knowledge of sports car racing as well.}

08 Jan 2018 00:40:20
twitter hahaha.


08 Jan 2018 04:08:37
Good job you picked up your knowledge from twitter before the fat kid from Bolton came alone ed2 😂.


07 Jan 2018 21:35:27
Would Goretzka be an adequate replacement for Cou? Do you think if we made an offer of maybe £20m Schalke would be tempted to sell rather than lose him for free in the summer. I know rumours of him signing for Munich are doing the rounds but I wonder if Klopp could work his magic on him.

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{Ed002's Note - The player wants to move elsewhere.}

07 Jan 2018 21:40:53
Bayern?


{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

07 Jan 2018 21:27:58
Really hope we get Lemar to replace Pip. He's a very talented quick hardworking player with an absolute wand of a left foot, definitely a Jurgen Klopp kind of player who he will take to the next level. His passing shooting and abillity to carry the ball will definitely fit into our style of play.

If he doesn't come in Jan i hope we can get something agreed now for the summer before his price rises even more!

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07 Jan 2018 21:41:30
That is the hope, GBB86.


07 Jan 2018 21:07:31
Some of the high profile departures that I can remember over the years:

Rush
McManaman
Fowler
Owen
Torres
Suarez

Common to all them is that I believe they played their best football with the Reds. I can't think of too many that have gone on to be better players, perhaps Beardsley and Alonso, but I would argue they maintained a level of brilliance throughout. Can anyone think of players that have stepped up after leaving the club?

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07 Jan 2018 21:17:26
Sterling
Mascherano
Alonso.


07 Jan 2018 21:23:01
Tbf I would say Alonso did.
He was absolutely excellent for us but went on to be World-class level.


07 Jan 2018 21:23:06
Mcmanaman would champions league and I think we La Ligas. I’m not sure what you mean with Beardsley though. Suarez has also won champions league and La Ligas.


07 Jan 2018 21:24:23
I certainly think Suarez stepped up from being a world class player to being the best striker in the world after he left us for Barca, slipping this year with his injuries though. Can’t argue that Sterling has stepped up his game in terms of his end product as well.


07 Jan 2018 21:35:09
Agree with Sterling, and perhaps Alonso did get even better. However I do think Suarez was better for us, completely relished being the main man rather than in Messi's shadow.

Jonesred, I was thinking of improvements in performance and footballing skills, rather than number of honours acheived - many have gone on to win more, not particularly difficult with our recent history.


07 Jan 2018 21:40:26
I’d still say Beardsley played better for us than Everton.


07 Jan 2018 21:43:33
Sterling, Kuyt, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Insua, Mikel San Jose to name a few.


07 Jan 2018 21:43:37
Macca, Sterling, Suarez and Alonso got better and won things or will win things (Sterling) . The others like Torres declined enormously.


07 Jan 2018 21:44:29
Beardsley did perform better for us than Everton, but the fact was that he was sold far too early.


07 Jan 2018 21:46:11
Suarez has been brilliant for Barca.


07 Jan 2018 21:55:34
Suarez literally scored his 132nd goal for Barcelona today. his career strike rate is pure madness.


{Ed025's Note - pure madness being the operative word.. :)

07 Jan 2018 21:06:41
Ed’s and Reds, just wondering if there are any/ many female posters or is this a 100% male site?

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07 Jan 2018 21:24:49
I'm a lady.


07 Jan 2018 21:30:45
No one will disagree with that Benny! 😉😂.


07 Jan 2018 21:47:25
I believe Ed002 was/ is some sort of cross dressing rodeo clown?


07 Jan 2018 21:57:54
There are females who post. well at least one I know of
😉.


07 Jan 2018 22:11:50
Im female but no lady so don't bother to hit on me ;)


07 Jan 2018 22:17:35
Ive been told that many of the posters dress as ladies. Does that count?


{Ed025's Note - they do...but its a bit of a drag..

07 Jan 2018 23:40:38
Kate Bush, Susan Song and Ed007.


08 Jan 2018 06:23:20
Susan Song, was she married to Rigobert?


07 Jan 2018 20:58:24
I'll enlighten you no problem MK. We tell him he's going nowhere until it suits the club tell him and Barcelona the deal will be done when a suitable replacement is identified and found agree all the details tell him sometimes you can't always get what you want you get what you need and he can leave in the summer. No this deal was sorted months ago by these owners, all the bluster of not for sale was nonsense and I always knew it.

The reason he's gone now is because Barcelona new we wanted to sell so told our small owners "if it doesn't happen now it won't happen at all". They turned green sh#t a brick and caved, why? because of van dijk and keita, because that's not money there prepared to pay unless there is more than that coming in. So what I've said we should of done at the top of the page couldn't be done because we were more desperate for the transfer to happen than Barcelona.

From the FSG handbook.

Step 1. We have to raise ticket prices to be able to compete.

Step 2. We are freezing ticket prices for the 3RD YEAR RUNNING.

Step 3. We tried to convince the player to stay but have to respect his wishes/ dream to play for Barcelona and reluctantly agree to his sale.

"If you throw the seals enough fish they will continue to jump through hoops for you".

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07 Jan 2018 21:03:38
What on earth are you talking about?


07 Jan 2018 21:46:50
So to summarize, this is just another in a LONG line of mindless anti-FSG rant that have no basis in reality, right? Got it.


07 Jan 2018 22:26:01
So embarrassing Waro. You have a warped view on most things.


07 Jan 2018 22:33:12
Is there a tin foil shortage at the local shop Waro?


07 Jan 2018 22:41:24
What do you think I'm on about firmane? Why don't you RTP and you might understand.


07 Jan 2018 22:50:12
Firmane, he tried to tell us all the other day that Liverpool's owners are only interested in money because they let Coutinho go, and i asked him to tell what he would've done to keep a player who was faking injuries.

Waro, it seems I'm swimming against the tide. Since buying the club they've broken our pre-FSG transfer record on a ridiculous amount of occasions. Suarez, Carroll, Lallana, Benteke, Firmino, Wijnaldum, Mane, Salah, Chamberlain, Keita and Van Dijk all cost more than our previous record deal for Fernando Torres.

It's an absolute joke that you continue to question their commitment to the club. Just that list above is nearly £400m of players on 11 players alone. How can you question them after that kind of spending? It's absolutely beyond me.

Ticket price increases? I really think fans are blowing this out of proportion. Welcome to inflation. Everything increases in price as time goes on. Wages go up, population goes up, demand goes up, prices go up. That's life.


07 Jan 2018 22:56:07
BRover, what you need to ask yourself is, why is there a long line of anti FSG posts? I quite like Americans so what else could it be? Hmm. 😏.


07 Jan 2018 23:58:37
Oh look waro is back now there’s something he can spin some hate around. Complete fraud and clearly not a genuine Liverpool fan.


07 Jan 2018 22:59:45
Usual waro bull.


07 Jan 2018 23:00:38
I know that Waro is a long time poster here at the site and the Eds respect him. He like all posters is entitled to his opinion. I know the owners have a lot of catching up to do with the fan engagement like ticket pricing and transparency but till now they haven't been that bad. They have made mistakes, they have learned from a few and haven't learned from a few.

But you cannot expect the owners to be altruistic, of course they would like to make profit at some point in time and would also want the club to be more self reliant but expecting them to pump in their own money is expecting a lot. I for one don't know about the expenses of running a club and the internal challenges faced by the owners so wouldn't comment on it but what I can see and understand they have done a decent job. They can and dare I say they will improve in the future but for now we have to wait and watch for what happens without being to judgemental.


07 Jan 2018 23:01:03
Keep taking the tablets and come back next week.
Or lay off the booze.


07 Jan 2018 23:20:02
He's usually on the Southampton Rumours website, calling
FSG fit to burn!


07 Jan 2018 23:57:34
Yes your right, I'm a loon who hates organisations for no reason whatsoever. I'd love to say what's on my mind but you'd never see it so I'd be wasting my time . Continue saying what you want about me when I can't defend myself. Southampton page? That's just a lie but what can ye do, some folk can continually post and some can't.


08 Jan 2018 00:00:34
MK, you speak about inflation re ticket prices, could inflation have anything to do with us breaking our transfer record over the past 7 years?
Anyone know our net spend since FSG arrived?


08 Jan 2018 01:12:57
Im not the biggest FSG fan myself but compared to what has come before they are angels, and money is probably the only area they cannot be criticised on. Are you not aware the club just broke the world record fee for a defender? Where the hell do you think the money came from? We sold coutinho because he wanted to leave, we have sold players before and have immediately reinvested the money. I feel sorry for you that you have this painfully warped perception of things.


08 Jan 2018 05:46:28
18and5 - I think FSG have now been the owners for about 7 years or so (correct me if I'm wrong) . They signed Carrol for our then record fee of 35M - our transfer record fee is now 75m. that's more than double. Way way way more than the rate of inflation over 7 years.


08 Jan 2018 06:37:10
I don’t know why people argue about this.
Does anyone really think FSG are interested in football? I think they openly admitted they were new to the sport when they took over. It’s a bit of a stretch to think they’re in it for the fans. To FSG we are customers.
Now FSG are businessmen and you don’t succeed by upsetting your customers. They also understand in sports ownership you make a lot more money if you have a successful team.
1) they want to make money out of us
2) they want the team to succeed
3) they’re not really football fans.

They’re owners, what do people expect? I can live with the 3 statements I’ve made because I realise there isn’t much alternative.
Cutting ticket prices would be nice, but people must realise the reality of FFP. If you drop income you drop your budget to spend on players. Similarly, if you don’t pay the big fees and wages you don’t attract your favourite players and you become less competitive. Less competitive = less marketable = less money coming in = a downward spiral.

What I’m saying is it is not simple to drop ticket prices. We don’t have to like the owners. They’re here to do make money. That’s ok, they need a successful team to really cash in. 🤝.


08 Jan 2018 14:30:46
so speaks the spirit of shankly eh waro.


07 Jan 2018 20:53:38
Eds,

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{Ed002's Note - Not the stuff for discussing here. Sorry.}

07 Jan 2018 21:02:03
That's fair enough, I was purposely careful with my words as I suspected that. Appreciate it anyway, Cheers.


07 Jan 2018 20:48:00
I notice that Coutinho profile has not yet been deleted from official liverpool website. Are we waiting for the cash to hit our bank account? Haha.

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07 Jan 2018 21:02:27
He’s not leaving, it was all a smokescreen, he is actually in Cyprus with bobby and they are going to unveil their new deal with Oral B.


07 Jan 2018 21:08:09
No we’re steainf him back we’ve sent Mignolet instead.


07 Jan 2018 21:48:00
All in good time, OP.


07 Jan 2018 20:32:18
Couldn't help feeling a pang of sadness seeing Pipco in Barcelona colours.
Like letting your ex go and then seeing her with a new fella.

You know it was for the best but i’d love to bang him one last time!

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07 Jan 2018 20:37:54
I think my last sentence has been messed with for humour purposes!


07 Jan 2018 21:00:30
Thing is jimble, you know he’s settling for sloppy seconds 👍.


07 Jan 2018 20:52:29
lmfao.


07 Jan 2018 21:49:24
Definitely Ron. Hope he gets crabs from his new bird.! 😂😂.


07 Jan 2018 22:19:05
Now would be a good time to make a packet selling your kiss n tell story with PC to the tabloids, jimble 😉🤣.


07 Jan 2018 20:10:50
Wonder dog sparky clearly taking the Michael out of supporters and leading the press up the garden path to see if they'll bite. He eats brownies, then uses the classic hippy 'man' then hallucinates the two Medicals that clearly haven't happened but the press and twitter have made up!

Brilliant job WDS / Ed2!

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07 Jan 2018 20:08:55
I've no inside knowledge but I would be amazed if there was no replacement lined up for coutinho considering the position we are in ie fa cup league and champs league

I really don't see Mahrez as a replacement he's not the quality we require

Lemar is quality as is Sanchez but I fear he's city bound

Keita may arrive early and is a good call depending on how much extra we need to pay

Keeper won't be changed this window and I still don't see why ward isn't given game time

In short replacement for coutinho this window and keeper and replacement for can in the summer plus a cheeky bid for Danny rose

As always open for criticism.

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07 Jan 2018 20:21:25
If you don't see mahrez as the quality to replace coutinho, can you remind me who's won players/ writers/ managers player of the season awards?


07 Jan 2018 20:26:54
And has a premier league winners medal.


07 Jan 2018 20:32:14
Good player in a poor team

Explain to me why no one else has come in for him when he's clearly for sale.


07 Jan 2018 20:37:40
So has Danny Simpson ask carra.


07 Jan 2018 20:41:52
Everything clicked for Leicester the year they won, don’t forget traore has a champions league medal and I wouldn’t have him back.

I am not for one second saying he isn’t a good player but I don’t think he has the attitude, would love to be proved wrong if he does indeed join though.


07 Jan 2018 20:41:59
Not sure he is clearly for sale. Especially in January. Besides Leicester aren't excatly poverty driven so they have no need to sell. Maybe Mahrez will have a back strain this month to force a move.


07 Jan 2018 20:50:00
What exactly has Lemar done which Mahrez hasn't?

1 is a high scoring and assisting player with premier league experience and won the premier league and player of the year - the other is Lemar.


07 Jan 2018 20:50:33
Fully agree with Benny here, Maher’s could be great for us or he might not but there’s certainly no doubting the guy is very very talented. As Benny pointed out he was player of the season when Leicester won the title. Why are so many on here complaining about him, ok he’s been off the boil but so was VVD before he joined us.


07 Jan 2018 21:05:17
“What exactly has Lemar done which Mahrez hasn't? ”

Played in a champions league semi?


07 Jan 2018 21:18:04
It's not like Lemar got them there single handed. I'm not convinced on Lemar at 90plus million even if we had citeh type budget. He just hasn't done enough to show he is worth that fee. I'll trust Klopp knows who he thinks is more his type of player and how they will fit though.


07 Jan 2018 21:28:06
haha Mahrez could possibly play in a CL semi this year, Lemar cant.
Having said that, I like both.


07 Jan 2018 21:56:28
And what has Mahrez done since winning the PL in 2016? IMO, it is dishonest to only refer to the past and conveniently ignore the present or all the things after that that PL win. The fact of the matter is that Mahrez has been bang average and piss poor since 2016 and this is cos he moved heaven and earth to get out of LC to the point of going AWOL for his country on deadline day last summer and has been crap since then. Don't believe me? Watch the game at Anfield and watch Mahrez all game and let me know what other else he did apart from the assist in the 3rd minute. Spoiler alert: He did absolutely nothing.

Don't know a lot about Lemar BUT Ed01 says he is a very good player and Klopp rates him so I'll defer to them. As for Mahrez? Sorry, he is now a crap, lazy, inconsistent player who is not even fit to start ahead of anyone in our front 3.


07 Jan 2018 21:56:28
And what has Mahrez done since winning the PL in 2016? IMO, it is dishonest to only refer to the past and conveniently ignore the present or all the things after that that PL win. The fact of the matter is that Mahrez has been bang average and piss poor since 2016 and this is cos he moved heaven and earth to get out of LC to the point of going AWOL for his country on deadline day last summer and has been crap since then. Don't believe me? Watch the game at Anfield and watch Mahrez all game and let me know what other else he did apart from the assist in the 3rd minute. Spoiler alert: He did absolutely nothing.

Don't know a lot about Lemar BUT Ed01 says he is a very good player and Klopp rates him so I'll defer to them. As for Mahrez? Sorry, he is now a crap, lazy, inconsistent player who is not even fit to start ahead of anyone in our front 3.


08 Jan 2018 01:17:55
Calm down lads, the point is that people claiming mahrez is a hack fraud compared to coutinho need to think about what they are saying. Hazard has been inconsistent and accused as lazy in very similar ways to mahrez. In fact id say at times they are quite similar as players. Would you not have hazard if given the chance? If klopp has faith in a players attitude and ability then i do too. Except i don't need to have faith when it comes to mahrez, i can see it with my own eyes he is a good player, plays for a pretty average team too so the room for improvement is very much there.


08 Jan 2018 05:37:01
Couldn’t have said it better myself A W.


08 Jan 2018 06:40:25
Yes, my reply was tongue in cheek 😉
Mahrez is talented, he suffers from a bit of an attitude problem. The same was said about Sadio but Klopp got him firing. I would not be against this transfer if it happened.


07 Jan 2018 20:01:43
Hi Ed is it true bobby firmino hasn't travelled to Dubai with squad and had gone to Cyprus.

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{Ed002's Note - So I understand.}

07 Jan 2018 20:08:29
Do you know the reasoning behind this.


{Ed002's Note - No, and I would not leap to any conclusions.}

07 Jan 2018 20:16:42
Anybody know why that is? Please don't tell me we are about to sell Bobby too.


07 Jan 2018 20:21:08
Thanks Ed002.


07 Jan 2018 20:27:06
Bobby couldn’t go as it was ‘boys gear’ only on the Dubai trip.


07 Jan 2018 20:41:35
He probably nneds to stick around to answer to the fa about the everton game. for sure they will want to interview him and the lazy gets at the fa won't work weekends.


{Ed002's Note - He is in Cyprus.}

07 Jan 2018 20:44:08
A guess is he has been granted a holiday due to the investigation.


07 Jan 2018 20:53:24
Maybe he needs to be questioned by FA to clear up that stupid Holgate incident.


{Ed002's Note - So he went to Cyprus to be available?}

07 Jan 2018 21:01:08
A number of 1st team players didn't make the trip to Dubai. (apparently)

Perhaps a couple who could be leaving but I think a few players are just being allowed a short break. Firmino has played an awful lot this season.

Was hoping to see a list of who went and who stayed but don't think anything like that has been shared by Liverpool.


07 Jan 2018 21:46:33
He’s off to apoel or Nicosia he wants to with regularly and has a passion for halloumi.


07 Jan 2018 20:00:32
Am I the only one who is not keen on signing Lemar? Only 2 goals and 4 assists in the French league. Hell even Depay has 8 goals and 5 assists in that league. And we know he's she*p. I'd prefer a player who has played in the Prem league.

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07 Jan 2018 20:33:50
Maybe his head is somewhere else, did he put a transfer request in the summer.


07 Jan 2018 20:54:17
Maybe his head was elsewhere. but so was coutinhos and he still managed a decent contribution. I'd prefer Mahrez personally. Never been a fan of buying players from the French league tho.


07 Jan 2018 21:10:42
He’s missed a third of the season through injury, plus you consider that Monaco have sold a number of players which has been disruptive to the squad. He’s still been a stand out performer for them.


07 Jan 2018 21:15:02
Lemar won't be coming in January - he's busy doing Dancing On Ice.


07 Jan 2018 19:58:29
Ed002. Now its done and dusted. Are you able to say please if we was actually offered a player in the end as part of the Pipco deal?

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{Ed002's Note - Players were available to be considered but there is none involved.}

07 Jan 2018 19:35:08
Ive deciphered Wonderdog Sparky's latest tweets for you all.

Liverpool will be re-signing Milan Baros, Martin Skrtel, and Daniel Agger.

Looks like we are also bringing in Sanchez, Mahrez, and also Wes Brown. Surprised by that one.

All players are involved in a joint medical at Melwood right now!

Last point, Liverpool and Inter Milan may be merging to create a Superclub called InterPol. Maybe.

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07 Jan 2018 19:59:43
I think we’re signing Spiny Norman.


07 Jan 2018 20:28:11
And Alonso is coming out of retirement.


07 Jan 2018 20:52:45
Theres no way we could sign all those players so soon into the window. Do you not know how long it would take to 'put together a package' for them all?


07 Jan 2018 21:07:31
Sounds like WDS has been talking to The Nose.


07 Jan 2018 18:35:27
Don't care what sky say or anybody else for that matter Liverpool have bid around 100m for Lemar fact!

The two clubs are still in talks over Mahrez fact!

There has also been developments regarding getting keita in this window fact!

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{Ed002's Note - What is the weather like in Bolton today?}

07 Jan 2018 19:05:38
Not got a clue Ed002 never even been to Bolton but we will see who is right in good time my info comes from someone inside the club.


07 Jan 2018 19:07:48
Hahah Ed 2 with the bolton memes.


07 Jan 2018 19:11:14
It’s not a fact it’s twitter, try to control your disappointment when it does not happen, I’m sure there will be many more “facts” this month.


07 Jan 2018 19:14:40
If we were to get lemar, mahrez and Keita this month then that means salah is going. no way are we buying all them 3 now.


07 Jan 2018 19:20:31
Welcome back Alans Barnet.


07 Jan 2018 19:20:37
I feel like you keep posting these things that do have a chance of happening but you claim its guaranteed.

If Kieta joins early, it wouldn't be that wild so you're just taking an educated guess and claiming to be 'In the know'

Monaco's president (I think) has already said that Lemar will probably leave in the Summer. So the claim that you made earlier that he hasagreed to join then is just a guess based on the fact that Liverpool want him and he will probably leave then anyway.

Sharing speculation is fine but pretending to be 'In the know' and then sharing everything that is being mentioned in the media is abit daft.

Quit acting dude.


07 Jan 2018 19:21:07
Rafa is that you?


07 Jan 2018 19:23:21
I'm happy for the lad to share rumours, it's called liverpool-rumours not liverpool-facts.


07 Jan 2018 19:25:04
I don’t think we will get all 3 but I think there’s a very good chance of 2 keita (who the club are working hard to sort before the window closes which did not look likely but is possibility now) and Lemar.


07 Jan 2018 19:28:48
Lfclymer you do realise putting the word fact at the end of a sentence doesn't actually make it a fact.
I believe there's every chance we will attempt to sign Lemar in January, and if not in the summer. But you're either being wound up by someone inside the club, or you're making that part up to make your guess work seem more legit. as there's no way we would sign both Lemar AND Mahrez to replace Coutinho in the same window, that would disrupt the dressing room more than it would improve it as they would both be vying for the same position and Klopp doesn't work like that.
I hope you're respectful enough to reply on here once you realise you were wrong to mis inform.


07 Jan 2018 19:31:37
If you are so confident, why the need to be so arrogant. The Ed’s give us their knowledge, they don’t have to just ask a couple of the other team pages. If you think you have information, great, but time will tell if you are correct.
Lemar, in my opinion, will be the summer at best
Mahrez I believe is just the media sticking two and two together and getting 5.
Keita would make no sense, we have already paid more to secure him when there was a release clause in the summer to pay even more to get him just for the PL and FA Cup again I’d be surprised.
It if you are right, then fair play.


07 Jan 2018 19:48:07
OP, slow your roll and let things happen. Mahrez is not coming as reports say that the club informed LC that they are not interested. Keita won't come as RBL won't release him (frankly, we need to follow thru on the agreement we had with RBL and stop acting pathetically desperate) and Monaco has already said Lemar won't go this Jan tho things may change. We shall see.


07 Jan 2018 20:13:09
Is that Alan's Barnet?


07 Jan 2018 20:18:07
My trust is with ed.


07 Jan 2018 20:29:06
lfclymer -

I have a 14 inch television Fact
I get to work on a Mope. Fact
I once turned down a menage a cafe au lair with Charles Aznavour and Penelope Keith. Fact

Oh hang on. and back in the real world.


07 Jan 2018 20:35:10
'is that Alan's barnet'
Zeddicus 😂😂
comment of the day surely!
Take a bow.


07 Jan 2018 20:38:22
Wow - what a weird edit to my reply! :) I can get why 'mandingo' and possibly even 'menage a trois' might be vaguely suspect - but 'magic carpet!? ' Great change of the names though - salute you Sir!


07 Jan 2018 20:42:59
Whatever happened to alans barnet?
Ed, can tou search his IP to see if he is posting again?


{Ed002's Note - No.}

07 Jan 2018 20:47:49
Bloody hell. throw enough darts ones going to hit the bullseye eh!


07 Jan 2018 21:07:43
"He has a contact inside the club! "
The Anfield cat perhaps?


07 Jan 2018 21:09:41
I'm happy for the lad to share rumours, it's called liverpool-rumours not liverpool-facts.

True and that Liverpool-facts site is nowhere near as entertaining as this one.


07 Jan 2018 22:09:31
Ron, I tend to wiki stuff on the Liverpool-facts site though. 😉.


07 Jan 2018 18:22:58
WDS is at it again on Twitter

Oh how heads will be melted

lol.

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07 Jan 2018 18:59:20
We should get Skrniar, he's born on my birthday! Last Liverpool player born on Feb 11? Mcmanaman, not too shabby!


07 Jan 2018 19:07:20
I can't decrypt that clever stuff, except Milan Skriniar, I get that.


07 Jan 2018 19:32:58
It’s one of the Dinsdale brothers saying we should’ve bought Skriniar instead of Tinkerbell (VVD) unless of course I’m mistaken and we’re buying Handanovic.


07 Jan 2018 19:40:09
Let’s have a go at this, so Skriniar should have been chosen instead of (VVD? ) in sparkys opinion. Sparky then talks about electric brownies (sparkys special recipie) and goes on to dance the batusi (a dance of Batman’s when he is drugged) probably relating to twitter lads from Bolton who think they are in the know.


07 Jan 2018 20:13:40
The batman dance is related to Aubameyang
As he wears the batman mask solved.


07 Jan 2018 20:37:22
I like that Adam, as batusi is Batman’s dance based on matusi which is African (Auba is from Africa)

I’m off to go and save up for the letters on my new shirt, thanks WDS ;)


07 Jan 2018 18:22:39
Wow, nice 3rd round of the cup, a few upsets which is always nice (as long as it's not us! ) .

Newport beat Leeds.

Coventry beat Stoke (not that long ago that Stoke beating Coventry would've been an upset! ) .

Forest beat Arsenal.

And the biggest upset of all, Everton scored a goal!

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07 Jan 2018 19:00:51
Boom boom.


07 Jan 2018 19:13:44
the third round is always a banana skin job, would not be surprised is the FA gave us a tough one in the fourth round .


07 Jan 2018 19:34:36
Yeah they hate us the FA 😡.


07 Jan 2018 19:50:35
Love the last part there, Zed. Everton scoring a goal at Anfield is about all they can aim for now as clearly, scoring two goals is out of this world and them winning at Anfield, no longer factors into the equation so they don't even aim for that anymore.


07 Jan 2018 18:13:58
I see wonderdog sparky is at it again i would love to try those electric brownies myself 😂.

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07 Jan 2018 18:05:02
Totally not LFC, but really looking forward to MU vrs Chelski next month, “he was a little man, is a little man and always will be” fireworks are a coming 25th feb, ringside seats wanted can’t wait!

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07 Jan 2018 18:09:47
Yeah should be good Conte clearly hates him and won’t even hide it, could get fairly lively. I’ll take a draw though!


{Ed002's Note - It is simply that Mourinho is miffed about Conte getting Mourinho's dream job for next season.}

07 Jan 2018 18:10:12
Maybe conte stood next to maureen in the Urals once upon a time.


07 Jan 2018 18:16:53
Conte just unloaded on him. Little man. lol.


07 Jan 2018 18:26:17
Dream job for next season? Conte moving to PSG then?


{Ed002's Note - You should try the Chelsea page.}

07 Jan 2018 18:30:58
Would that b the psg job ed?


{Ed002's Note - Try the Chelsea page.}

07 Jan 2018 18:36:53
Come ed spill the beans now?


07 Jan 2018 18:40:53
What job is that ed2?


07 Jan 2018 18:42:28
Oh Ed you rascal! What job is Conte getting that Mourinho would like?


07 Jan 2018 18:43:33
I looked at the chelsea page and saw nothing about Conte and Mourinhos "dream job". Could you shed some light on this Ed002 if possible?


{Ed002's Note - Don't worry it is not the Liverpool job.}

07 Jan 2018 18:43:46
What job is that then ed?


07 Jan 2018 18:46:42
Care to elaborate ed002?


07 Jan 2018 19:25:20
Is it the city with the tower?


07 Jan 2018 19:26:05
Chelsea fans have seen Ed002’s post on our page and are now askingabkit Conte lol.
Are you still not posting on the Chelsea page Ed002?


{Ed002's Note - I can’t help with Chelsea.}

07 Jan 2018 19:34:04
A quick Google suggests it's the PSG job.


07 Jan 2018 19:48:22
Is it becoming a track suit clown?


07 Jan 2018 19:43:37
Calm down it's PSG, think everyone has noticed he's not been the happiest bunny at Chelsea and for me he has done very well with the squad he has been given, if they were to lose hazzard they would be pretty ordinary.


07 Jan 2018 19:46:23
Ed002, correct me if I'm wrong but mourinhos two dreams jobs were Barcelona (to follow in the footsteps of his mentor, but Barcelona turned him down years ago) and Manchester United. So is conte moving to Barcelona or is he taking over united? Or has mourinho got a new dream job? I know this is the Liverpool page but you mentioned it on here, and other users haven't had any joy on the Chelsea page so hopefully you can shed some light? Interesting as ever.


{Ed002's Note - You have some strange ideas.}

07 Jan 2018 19:48:22
Is it becoming a track suit clown?


07 Jan 2018 19:51:53
I guess we'll have to wait and see then, won't we Ed02?


07 Jan 2018 20:14:22
Sorry Ed But i am usually pro you as your info is second to non, and you normally respond respectfully. But I didn't even put any ideas across then so how can they be strange. I wasn't implying conte was going to united or Barca. all I was saying is Mourinho did want the Barcelona job years ago and they interviewed him and turned him down. And it was well known mourinho wanted the united job after SAF. I am not suggesting for one moment that conte is getting either of them, I'm just using your logic as you said conte is taking his dream job, and his two dream jobs that I know of were Barcelona and united. It would be much easier and more productive of you to reply clarifying the facts from something you brought up, as apposed to taking my response out of context.


{Ed002's Note - All strange ideas.}

07 Jan 2018 20:41:05
I use these websites to gain more understanding and knowledge of the game and club I support, if I wanted clickbait I'd go on Twitter or all the mainstream sites. Making a statement like you wrote about conte and mourinho and then not responding to one person with the club you meant to me is just another form of clickbait as now we're all on here repeatedly asking, and you're avoiding saying it. Again, appreciate your knowledge and insight as much as anyone but surely it's easier to inform us than wind us up? Some of us on here actually want to learn from you as apposed to bein wound up by you.


{Ed002's Note - it was in response to a comment about two other clubs - try looking on their pages and then you won’t have to ask here.}

07 Jan 2018 20:08:50
Maureen should be charged for what he said about match fixing, the guy is extremely bitter.


07 Jan 2018 20:36:00
Bendy bus driver - specialising in parking.


07 Jan 2018 23:02:08
Deadly Ron.


07 Jan 2018 18:04:16
Defo won't be signing lemar he's hoping for a good run in dancing on ice so maybe the summer? 😂.

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07 Jan 2018 17:59:32
What i can't get my head around is that sky sports have come out and said we are not going to try and sign lemar this window. My question is why would liverpool fc tell sky that considering he is our number one target (according to reports)

Surely that would give other clubs the advantage to make a move for him?

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07 Jan 2018 18:26:33
Unfortunately there are insiders of clubs that give information away. When it comes to Liverpool, we cannot keep anything a secret. There is a main reason as to why Chelsea and spurs has been sabotaging our transfer over the years.


{Ed002's Note - Other clubs don't care what Liverpool do - they have their own plans. Maybe Liverpool should send them some sort of message?}

07 Jan 2018 18:37:04
I'm sure liverpool are not spending their time giving live updates to the media aboit what we're up to.


{Ed002's Note - Well, Klopp, Tinkerbell and most of the squad are in the UAE. Firmino has popped over to Cyprus or some other island in the Med - he can't hire a car of course but can likely afford a taxi.}

07 Jan 2018 19:53:27
Jomil, no one cares what LFC does neither do they run their transfer business with LFC in mind.


07 Jan 2018 17:28:55
Hi eds,

So, from what I've read.

Lemar - not likely in January, perhaps the summer

Mahrez - no chance

Goretzka - available on pre contract, but a lot of clubs in for him

Keita - not much of a chance of him coming early

Cebellos - not an awful lot of progress on that front

My question is, with none of these players really looking all that likely and the with the money from the coutinho sale (which I'd expect will cover the purchase of van dijk purchase) is there anyone that we do look like favourites to sign at the moment?

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained where there is interest in players that I am aware of, and I have explained where it is more difficult at this time of year and where there has been no approach. I cannot sensibly answer about players who Liverpool are "favourites" to sign.}

07 Jan 2018 17:49:32
Ok, maybe I phrased that wrongly. Is there strong interest in anyone bar the players I previously mentioned? I'm new here and these are the only ones I've seen discussed recently, I could use the search bar but I wouldn't know what names to search for.


{Ed002's Note - I have shared the names of the players I know the club has been looking at or have considered - and no doubt there are others I don't know of. But I have also explained the difficulties of trying to do business in January. I provided a Sharkopod and have added to that others that have been looked at since that I am aware of. There is not much else I can reasonably do.}

07 Jan 2018 17:59:31
Others you don't know of ed🤔. Mate I thought you were the messiah.


{Ed002's Note - Omnipotent but not the Messiah.}

07 Jan 2018 18:06:17
Hi Ed002! You mentioned it earlier that you going to make an updated Sharkopod in January if Wonderdogsparky willing to help you? Is he around? Are you considering putting one together? Cheers! Thanks a bunch!


{Ed002's Note - #WonderDogSparky is around today but he and a couple of old buddies of yours are setng about the electric brownies as I type. Centrebacks from when men were men.}

07 Jan 2018 18:07:43
Although you boil my nose sometimes ed002, you really know your stuff and everyone appreciates you sharing your info here on the site.
You being “a neutral” also helps understand things better as you tell it as it is
Not kissing your pert @rse, just want to say thanks for sharing.


{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

07 Jan 2018 17:59:31
Others you don't know of ed🤔. Mate I thought you were the messiah.


{Ed002's Note - I am

07 Jan 2018 18:16:20
................abuse removed.............


{Ed002's Note - Another piece of crapo scraped off the collective shoe.}

07 Jan 2018 19:28:49
LFC Probably waiting for Coutinho to pass his medical and officially sign the dotted line then the funds can be put towards the replacement/ s

Thanks Phil C for your service, only human nature for people wanting to better their career in what is a very short career with football.

VVD i hope he becomes a legend, normally they do when they score on their first game, Suarez, Salah, VVD, Goretzka. Mahrez.


07 Jan 2018 19:38:39
Sorry ed not sure how my Messiah post went on twice, exact same time also🤔.


07 Jan 2018 17:24:09
Penalty Forest! . Scores! 3-1.

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07 Jan 2018 17:30:04
sign the young goal scorer he's tearing arsenal a new one.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool signed someone else instead but they were interested.}

07 Jan 2018 17:22:38
Watching forest vs Arsenal and I got to say that brereton up front looks different gravy. think clubs will be cueing up for this kid.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool were interested but moved for another.}

07 Jan 2018 17:45:15
I presume we got Solanke instead of him, Ed002?


{Ed002's Note - Yes Z.}

07 Jan 2018 17:58:17
Thank you ma'am 😀.


07 Jan 2018 19:55:31
Arsenal getting a right hammering is just PRICELESS. Stay Tuned to see who Thw Whinger blames for this loss. Surely it can't be the ref, could it?


07 Jan 2018 17:22:21
Nottingham Forest playing Arsenal like Liverpool at the moment. It would be nice to see them knock off The Gunners. It's almost as entertaining as the organized street brawl David Moyes was managing today. Missing teeth, split head, they were supposed to play an FA Cup game, and a hockey game broke out.

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07 Jan 2018 17:13:54
With all my fellow fans throwing all sorts of names in the hat and I'll be honest I've never heard of most of them. come on let's be honest here how many of you only know these from YouTube clips 😂.

Anyway back to my question is there any possibility we may see any young lads promoted into the 25man squad for the rest of the season?

Any if the eds help me out with this one.

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{Ed002's Note - No because the 25 man squad is for those over 21 only. In addition to that, Liverpool has another 7 underage players listed already. You can reasonably expect some to change this month with a few leaving and an addition or two yet to come, but I would not expect any further youngsters to be named.}

07 Jan 2018 18:10:15
Cheers for that ed002.


07 Jan 2018 18:17:53
Why we are at it ed002 are there any of youngsters you would expect to break through anytime soon? I'm not that up on the youth ranks etc but if love to see a young local lad (attacker) coming through.


{Ed002's Note - A lot is thought of the likes of Brewster and Toni Gomes but the step up for the youngsters is very, very significant. Neither of these are local of course but the net is cast far wider than Merseyside nowadays.}

07 Jan 2018 19:34:44
Yeah I'm fully aware it's even more difficult to bring through the local lads with the recruitment they have their the kids. we can always hope for another Fowler gerrard carragher can't we.

Any more news on sturridge? Is it looking like he'll stay or get his loan move?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware there is anything new and assume he is in UAE with most of the squad.}

07 Jan 2018 17:05:18
First time poster but reader for many a transfer window. First off hats off to all the eds for the hard work I salute you. Personally I was more upset when Alonso went and still pine for him back in our midfield but heyho such is life. I recall in the summer there was rumoured interest in Lanzini. Just wondered if that is still a case although IMO I think it best to not try replace coutingo. A certain aqualani springs to mind.

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07 Jan 2018 16:56:21
Hi eds. Im hearing rumours about Barcelona wanting to sell Suarez. Do you know if there is any truth in that? And if so are Liverpool interested in bringing him back to Anfield?

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{Ed002's Note - If you look on the European pages or the Barcelona page you will see I have explained for months about him being available in the summer. It is nothing to do with Liverpool.}

07 Jan 2018 17:17:34
I'd be trying to get him back. He's only 30 that is 2/ 3 years at the top. Probably more time than Salah will be at Liverpool but we'd have to get him now not summer.
It's very worrying how we sell our best players every single time, The owners will be loving all that money.


{Ed002's Note - The owners have just spent what will be around £90M on van Dijk and still there are idiots like you bitching at them.}

07 Jan 2018 17:47:24
🔔🔚 op.


07 Jan 2018 17:48:52
Not Grobbelaar sorry.


07 Jan 2018 18:02:08
Ed002 on one hand over and over again you rightly tell us the top players want to win things. But City and Utd over the last 5 years have spent £100m net on average per season. Liverpool after Courts sale have spent net around £15m max per season in the last 5 years.

Less than Everton
Less than Palace

So of course we want to buy some players. We will know if the owners want to win something by the end of the summer. Then maybe with a good team they can start to market the club properly.


{Ed002's Note - I am not sure why you use "net" and not "gross" figures - the owners have poured vast amounts of money in to the club - a club that was loosing £1M per weeek for the first three years of their ownership. I am well aware that there are fans like you who just want to see vast amounts of money spent and don't care if it is on the best players for the job - just as long as they are expensive. Distorting figures through the sales of the likes of Coutinho and Suarez is a feeble way that many Liverpool fans use to get at the owners. My suggestion for you Mark is to get on Twitter and tell those who have just committed to spend £90M on Tinkerbell quite how awful owners they are. Maybe you could threaten the owners wife, get down the stadium and daub abuse on it - there are plenty of ways to get your point across.}

07 Jan 2018 18:33:49
You saying things like threaten the owners wife does you no favours at all. (some would say for suggesting it you are as bad as the ones who have done it) . When the owners came in it was also their job to maximise revenue and they have failed at this.

When the owners sell they will make a £400m profit so I won't be feeling sorry for them anytime soon. It is very easy to commit to spend on VVD when the day after you know you are selling our most valuble player.

I am also more than happy to wait for the right players as long as they try to get them like VVD and Kieta.


{Ed002's Note - It is the Liverpool way - they fans have done that before - and daubed abuse on the stadium. I am not sure what you latest beef is that the owners have also failed to "maximise revenue"? I assume that you don't really understand how football finances work at all, nor the need for clubs to work within the structure of FFP.}

07 Jan 2018 19:13:21
Ed002 I don't know, I would never claim to know even 10% of what you know about non playing matters. I just see other clubs spending £100's millions more than us but we still have to try and compete. I just know how big a 6 months we have in front of us and we can't afford any more mistakes.

On the revenue side, I think they should have employed better quality personnel for a number of key roles at the club.

Thanks for your replies. (it is not the Liverpool way, all clubs have idiots that claim to be fans) .


{Ed002's Note - Use Gross transfer figures Mark. The club is now on a decent financial footing thanks to the owners. It should be appreciated.}

07 Jan 2018 19:30:35
ok boss

I wouldn't mind winning something as well.


{Ed002's Note - Lots of chances still.}

07 Jan 2018 20:00:07
Thanks for the responses, Ed02. You should also pop over to other fan sites and you won't believe the abuse the owners get nor the complete and abject stories people make up in their heads about the owners. Happy to be on this site where thanks to you Ed's we are well informed on what's going on behind the scenes and also, I love the fact that we don't discuss money on this forum cos trust me, it will be armaggedon, just like it is on these other fan sites.


{Ed002's Note - In most cases they shouldn't do.}

07 Jan 2018 16:40:52
The firm on twitter @TheFirmBL claims we have agreed a deal with Monaco for lemar in the summer £96m. 😂😂😂😂.

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{Ed002's Note - Good news eh.}

07 Jan 2018 17:06:56
Brilliant ed002 now all we need is Messi and neymar to be confirmed and we are sorted for next season 😁😁😁.


07 Jan 2018 17:20:29
Would want him now for that price!


07 Jan 2018 16:15:56
I think to many players these days are labelled world-class. To be world-class in my eyes you have to perform at the highest level for many seasons (premiership, champions league, and international level world cups Euro's) I'm not sure there are any world-class English players at this time Harry Kane possibly if he keeps scoring and performs well at the world cup.

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07 Jan 2018 16:29:26
Harry Kane is literally the only one who comes close.


07 Jan 2018 16:43:48
Agreed if he goes to Madrid and performs well for years then he is world class I'm just not sure if he is good enough only time will tell.


07 Jan 2018 16:44:03
Scoring freely against below average sides doesn't make anyone world class. If he can sustain a good scoring record in WC under pressure, tgan we can start calling him wirld class. Personally, I would call a player world class if I have the urge to pay for just watching them doing their magic on a football pitch. Players like : Ronaldo (original one), Ronaldinho, Messi, Suarez, Coutinho, Gerrard, Maldini, Henry, Fowler.


07 Jan 2018 16:48:19
the term world class gets overused these days, I blame it on the outrageous transfer fees in the game today, and also the fact these players get over hyped so much ( see ross barkley)


07 Jan 2018 16:59:58
Whoever came up with the nickname god for Robbie Fowler is a genius.


07 Jan 2018 17:06:41
World class is opinion. I deem it as having the ability to get into the squad of a team made up of the best players in the world, So 11 starters and 11 back ups essentially. Assuming a standard 442 formation, is Kane amongst the top 4 strikers in the world currently? Certainly a case for it. Who else is there up there? Dybala, Griezman, Aguero?


07 Jan 2018 17:12:13
BXL RED he scored for fun against us and he does it against the big sides, I’d contend Kane is more than a flat track bully.


07 Jan 2018 17:17:07
To be fair to Kane he's scored against every single team in the Prem bar one, I can't remember which but it's a newly promoted side I think. Which means he's scored against all the so-called top sides, and he also 6 in 5 games in the Champions League groups. He's scored against France and Germany. I'm not sure who else there is really for him to score against before he gets some credit. If he was scoring this many for us I'm sure you'd have long been calling him world class.


{Ed002's Note - You need to take all of this to the Spurs or Real Madrid page. This is the Liverpool page.}

07 Jan 2018 17:21:16
Harry Kane is in the top 3 strikers in the world. Of course he is world class.


07 Jan 2018 18:12:32
Hope no spud fans see that sly little hint eds002.


07 Jan 2018 15:51:45
Bit off the who’s coming in chat. Which player would u like to take the majority of are free kicks now that Brazilian lad has gone. for me it would have to be mo, although seen vvd score a few corkers.

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07 Jan 2018 15:53:56
I think TAA would be a good shout.

More likely Milner for crosses and Salah for shots on goal?


07 Jan 2018 15:54:48
VVD can hit them TAA, Salah would probably welcome the opportunity?


07 Jan 2018 16:02:21
Prefer the ox on deliveries. It's a lot flatter, which is better than say milners looping technique.


07 Jan 2018 16:04:52
Decent shout Zeddicus. think ox has a good cross on him to mate.


07 Jan 2018 16:18:32
Ox, he already prove it than he can cross really well from free kicks. He may well do it with scroing from one. Otherwise TAA or VVD.


07 Jan 2018 16:21:23
Salah for direct free kicks, if his corner deliveries are anything to go by then he should have a good free kick on him.


{Ed002's Note - I am surprised Arnold has not been mentioned.}

07 Jan 2018 16:56:29
Ed002 couple of people have mentioned him above. i will let you decide if we are allowed to use the abbreviation TAA though.


07 Jan 2018 16:58:44
TAA or VVD.


07 Jan 2018 17:07:28
Had a dream last night that big Virgil scored from a free kick. Shhh don't tell my Mrs I dream about footy.


07 Jan 2018 17:09:32
Taa is a great shout. does he or anyone have the ability to whip them 35 yearders inn?


07 Jan 2018 15:29:53
I am the last person who would want us to make a signing for the sake of it or to sign the wrong player, but taking into account that we know goretzka and meyer can negotiate pre contracts or move on the cheap, that brandt, mahrez and lemar all wanting to leave their clubs, lemar being rumoured to be interested in the move to liverpool, and that keita is desperate to leave RBL, it would be rather disappointing if nothing was to be completed by the end of the transfer window.

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{Ed002's Note - Goretzka is keen on the move to Bayern Munich. Meyer is awating an offer from Schalke but has another English side waiting to speak with him. Liverpool purchased Salah because Brandt wasn't interested - and he is aware of interest from elsewhere for the summer. Mahrez I thought had already joined Liverpool? Lemar is not for sale at this time - as has been explained to the clubs that spoke with Monaco. Liverpool have already agreed to pay over the odds foir Keita but could certainly throw more money at RBL - who say Keita is quite happy to see the season out - which is what they want.}

07 Jan 2018 15:53:12
Ed2 so one of the Ed’s said where looking to replace him this month so you seemed to of ruled everyone out so who are we looking at?


{Ed002's Note - I am not ruling everyone out, simply explaining the situation with each of the players mentions. It was me who identified the likes of Meyer, Goretzka and Lemar originally. If you would prefer a more cheerful outlook - try the fat kid from Bolton Twitter who has announced both Lemar and mahrez today.}

07 Jan 2018 15:56:27
It’s not a case of ‘signing for signings sake’ but it’s been a long time coming this transfer and one would assume (and I trust the board) have some plan in mind not preparing in advance would be suicidal.


07 Jan 2018 15:59:40
Well eds that doesn’t leave us much options on the list we’ve had of players available that we’ve supposedly had interest in . maybe Liverpool will surprise us and throw in a curve ball and get someone we haven’t mentioned. or then again we might just bide our time and wait till summer where prices come down quite considerably. whatever happens I’m not to worried cause even with couts gone I don’t think we’re to shabby going forward. 👍.


07 Jan 2018 16:01:33
😂😂😂😂 fat kid from Bolton who’s that? I was just interested to see where u see interest that’s all.


{Ed002's Note - Someone will know the name of the account.}

07 Jan 2018 16:22:20
Prices may well go up in the summer mate, WC will be played.


07 Jan 2018 16:44:24
Read somewhere that Oblak has a buyout clause at £100m. Goretzka might be available for 15-20. Lemar will cost over 100 if it can be done at all.

What do you say boys and girls: the pair of them or Lemar for the PC £?


07 Jan 2018 16:45:42
We should probably approach R. Madrid for Ceballos on loan, and reassess our options at the end of the season.


07 Jan 2018 18:47:23
Ed2, i think lfc fans forget that the footballing world doesn't revolve around Liverpool's plans.


07 Jan 2018 15:23:41
A lot are worried we may not get a replacement for Coutinho in January. Just remember Klopp wanted VVD, and didn't settle for anyone else. In the past, we would have went on to our 3rd or 4th choice, overspent and ended up with a player that didn't solve anything.
I would live to see new players in now, but I would also wait till we get the right players available.

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07 Jan 2018 15:50:04
Wasn’t Salah a third choice?


{Ed002's Note - Fourth.}

07 Jan 2018 16:09:18
Fourth blimey didn't turn out to bad did he.


07 Jan 2018 16:13:37
Cheers and, he seems to have worked out quite well.


07 Jan 2018 16:34:04
Ed 02 are Liverpool trying to get Suarez back? .
Red Tag.


{Ed002's Note - Luis Suarez will likely be available in the summer as Barcelona place him but I am pretty sure a return to Liverpool is not on the cards for a player who has very much lost his bite.}

07 Jan 2018 16:34:46
Clubs will identify many players for a specific position. Salah was the one most viable.


{Ed002's Note - Actually he was a late addposed by scouting staff - Klopp needed to be persuaded. This was all explained in the summer.}

07 Jan 2018 16:50:59
Thank you Ed 002 for your reply and good Luck for the future.
Red Tag.


07 Jan 2018 17:03:47
Didn't suarez just score today ed?


{Ed001's Note - but his legs have still gone mate. The knee injury and ops he suffered have robbed him of a large portion of his mobility. Still a goal sniffer but he often misses chances due to just lacking the pace to get to them now.}

07 Jan 2018 17:49:10
Great job from the scouting staff then Ed. Generally clubs will identify many players for a specific position.


{Ed002's Note - Yes, and as an example Juventus and Milan have always come up with lengthy lists of up to around 10 players for outfield positions.}

07 Jan 2018 20:03:16
I think the first 2 choices were Brandt and Keita Balde (don't know the 3 choice) and then Salah.


07 Jan 2018 15:11:09
Loads of names getting thrown around as per usual, same old same old. Are we likely to sign a replacement for couts this window or wait til the summer. I actually think we will be ok to wait.

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07 Jan 2018 17:37:55
That’s a massive risk if we don’t make champions league and then can’t sign a quality because of it!


07 Jan 2018 19:01:46
We have a good squad even without coutinho its better than utd and arsenal so i think we would still make it.


07 Jan 2018 20:04:23
Longthing, We already have quality in the squad and quality coming in next season with Keita.


07 Jan 2018 15:08:29
What you think guys?

Replacing Coutinho, do you replace him with a like for like player, or replace his quality in the team?

We could bring in a player like Lemar who would contribute a similar goal and assist output to Coutinho and be a creative force in the midfield.

Or do you strengthen other areas? We've already brought in a CB, we could bring in a new keeper. Perhaps drop Firmino back into playing in the hole and bring in a more conventional striker. I know both Salah and Firmino will easily hit 20-30+ goals this season but would you want to bring in a out and out striker who is proven to score 20+ a season?

Just wondering as at the moment we have so many midfielders and replacing Coutinho will be really difficult by just changing him like for like. We play with a 3 man midfield, Naby Keita will be a shoe in for next season, can play in a 2 man midfield but needs a more defensive midfielder next to him, one which we don't currently have, so if we have a midfield of say, Keita, Hendo (most def minded midfielder we will have next season) and then you can choose one of Lallana, Ox, Wiji, Grujic.

I'm not sure myself just wanted your guys opinions.

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07 Jan 2018 15:16:16
Please stop with this 20+ goals a season striker bullsh*ep. Such thing doesn't make any sence with the tactics we play. Just stop.


07 Jan 2018 15:18:31
Just keep building, keep strengthening the team.
This season Klopp has strengthened by buying Salah, Oxlade, VVD and Robertson and Keita is coming.
Early days for VVD but he’s an obvious improvement.
Robbo is making Moreno up his game.
Oxlade has looked very accomplished.
Salah is on fire.

Ok Coutinho has gone, keep strengthening the squad. I would look to improve the GK next.


07 Jan 2018 18:54:20
I'd like the balance in the team to bee addressed. A more natural CM to play in hendo's position. doesn't need to be a CDM, just someone who has a more natural instinct defensively. Ideal player but not surr if we in for him is ndidi. I'd then like to see hendo played in one of the box to box CM positions as part of that rotation.

Then add quality depth to the front 3. Ideal player and again not sure if we are in for him would be pulusic.


{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that Ndidi didn't do it did he?}

07 Jan 2018 14:54:29
Hi Ed's/ Reds

As much as I liked Coutinho, I can't help but feel a tad let down that he left now instead of doing the deal now and going in the summer, I'd understand if we was out of the champions league and in mid table with no hope of silverware but we have a great chance for the FA Cup, fantastic chance of improving on last years league position and in all fairness however unlikely you can never say never with the European cup when we are involved, I just feel he let us down a bit and tarnished his legacy a little bit, but best of luck to him.
Now onto the future, I understand people are flapping no the little fella has gone and are already spending this £146million like it's their own but I really don't think things are as bad as they seem. For me personally, I think we are fine to cope in midfield until the summer. We have Lallana back from injury now, although admittedly he still needs a few games to return to form, but he was first name on the team sheet for many last season, even before Coutinho. I think the way he plays with his neat close passing will create plenty of goals for the likes of Salah and Bobby. Oxlade-Chamberlain has come on leaps and bounds in such a short period of time and his work rate impresses me greatly, I doubted this signing and I'm delighted so far I've been proved wrong. With Gini, Can, Milner, Henderson, Lallana, Ox fighting for 3 places, such panic buys in January for players who may be below our standards or paying over the odds for players makes no sense, add to the fact any suitable replacement will again cost more now and likely be cup tied in Europe. My opinion is, if Lemar is our top target for replacing Coutinho, then get a deal sorted now for next season, then with him and Kieta already done we can concentrate on finding a top class goal keeper and possibly a new striker once summer rolls round.

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{Ed002's Note - Monaco has no interest in discussing any "deal for next season".}

07 Jan 2018 15:15:09
Didn’t know if it might of been an option Ed, thanks for clearing that up, understandable though as if the player has a great World Cup his price inflates, one thing that baffles me with the Coutinho deal, them extra few months could of gotten us a higher fee, yes he wanted to go now but if the club could of dug in a bit more, a good World Cup and an extended run for us in the champions league could of put the value up another £10-30million. But that’s life and he’s now the past, I still think we have a very bright future with the players we have and Kieta looks like some player from what I’ve seen.


{Ed002's Note - Barcelona would no longer have been an option then - and Liverpool knew that. Liverpool were aware that Barcelona wanted thie transfer resolved by the end of November - I don't think they realised Barcelona were really then going to look at other options as well. Certainly by the summer they would not be an option. Keita runs hot and cold and gets accused of going missing in major games. He also has on field issues regarding discipline that will need to be resolved, and off field issues in terms of stupidity. He shopuld be OK but far away, at least for now, of the "world class" label the fans are giving him.}

07 Jan 2018 15:54:49
Thanks for your reply again Ed, I suppose even with wishful thinking of holding on to him until the summer and Barcelona looking elsewhere, I’m sure we’d of had another big money offer from the likes of PSG or Real Madrid so keeping him long term would never of been an option. I can’t say I’m an expert on Kieta, but from the odd game I’ve seen he looks a player, his disciplinary record worries me but hopefully Klopp can develop him into the World Class player his potential suggests, I think that’s all we can hope with any transfer, I certainly don’t think he’s there yet or we’d be paying £100million plus, but as I said in my opinion he looks a player, fingers crossed with him. My slight worry is with Lamar, he seems expensive for a player who also has potential but that’s todays market I suppose and it ain’t our money, I just hope there’s money available for a keeper in the summer.


07 Jan 2018 15:54:49
Thanks for your reply again Ed, I suppose even with wishful thinking of holding on to him until the summer and Barcelona looking elsewhere, I’m sure we’d of had another big money offer from the likes of PSG or Real Madrid so keeping him long term would never of been an option. I can’t say I’m an expert on Kieta, but from the odd game I’ve seen he looks a player, his disciplinary record worries me but hopefully Klopp can develop him into the World Class player his potential suggests, I think that’s all we can hope with any transfer, I certainly don’t think he’s there yet or we’d be paying £100million plus, but as I said in my opinion he looks a player, fingers crossed with him. My slight worry is with Lamar, he seems expensive for a player who also has potential but that’s todays market I suppose and it ain’t our money, I just hope there’s money available for a keeper in the summer.


07 Jan 2018 18:56:58
John, I had the dame ferling a couple days ago about coutinho leavibg. He seem like a nice kid, and it a shame the way it played out. No fibal game, no standing O, he just vanishes from thr club.


07 Jan 2018 14:45:38
Haven't posted in ages hope everyone is doing well just want to pass on my condolences to ed01 hope your ok mate.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Farno, I really appreciate that.}

07 Jan 2018 14:17:27
And now for something completely different as Monthy Phython would say. When is a good age to start taking the little red's to their first game?

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07 Jan 2018 14:45:45
Just took my lad to his first game against Leicester. He’s 8 and loved it. Got a bit upset at half time because we were losing but all good in the end! Though he is going to have to choose a new favourite player now.

Cheers.


07 Jan 2018 14:52:16
1 month old I'd say.


07 Jan 2018 14:58:44
Oh trust me I tried that Benny.


07 Jan 2018 15:32:56
Took the lad when he was 4yrs and he loved it. Still talks about it now a year on and won't go anywhere without his Liverpool shirt on. Also just great to spend some one to one time with the wee fella. Priceless.

Took his sister when she was 7yrs. Loved it too despite the 0-0 result. Maybe understood a bit too much of the language compared to her brother though!


07 Jan 2018 15:56:04
I reckon it depends if you’re local. If you are, anytime. I’m from darn sarth so got to wait until my boys ready for an overnighter!


07 Jan 2018 16:02:36
Thanks Red Flag. The wee one is 7 in March but the wee man is only 3 in February.


07 Jan 2018 16:13:12
I'm from darn sarf too Zeddicus. Was a good day out to drive up, park in the stadium see the match and then he crashed out on the drive on the way home. Needed a beer by the end of the night though but doable without an overnighter!

I reckon the kids'll love it Barry - maybe the 7yr old more than the littl'un though. Teach them a few of the songs on the way there - makes the difference! Although they're still not quite sure how hard Steve Gerrard actually kicks the ball!


{Ed002's Note - There is no interest from Liverpool Darn Sarf although Spurs have had scouts watch him regularly.}

07 Jan 2018 17:54:10
Good shout, red flag. I'm tempted to find a station en route as I hate driving in town! Need to check the Trainline but something like a parkway station, outside of town and direct train into line street.


07 Jan 2018 14:08:45
So according to sky no lemar or Mahrez in January to replace Coutinho? Could we be looking at Fekir or Malcom maybe? Do we even have any interest in either? Time will tell but it's going to be a long month for the eds 👍.

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{Ed002's Note - It will be a long month if people throw up the names of random players all of the time.}

07 Jan 2018 15:00:51
You're definitely right about that, Ed02. The random naming is seriously doing my head in (not necessarily you, DMJ) esp. in the media.


07 Jan 2018 13:38:22
Firstly may i say great result Friday night great debut by van the big man considering he's not really match fit better things to come when he is fully, what stuck out like a sore thumb for me though was our lack of industry in midfield it's all very pedestrian and safe when going forward, add to this with Couts going for definitely and it's apparently obvious that there is a gaping hole in our midfield when it comes to that playmaker roll and the killer pass that the front 3 feed off . I think it will be a big mistake if we don't get a replacement in for Couts in January and our aspirations for the rest of the season could well suffer as a result. I hope this whole Firmino/ Holgate thing blows over and is simply nothing to worry about because Bobby for me is just as important as Couts was to the team if not more and I would hate to see him miss crucial games after that cowardly shove by Holgate and the inexcusable and shocking decision by Mr Bobby Madly not to at least book him . Here's hoping it's only a storm in a tea cup and nothing more, onwards and upwards YNWA.

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07 Jan 2018 15:08:24
NOTSO, I know the game was a bit pedestrian esp. in midfield BUT you have to take things into context. It was a Merseyside Derby Cup tie at home (we've never beaten Neverton in this fixture) so I understand the nerves and in these types of games as you know, ONLY the result matters as Everton would not have cared how they played had they won. The most important thing is that we got the win in a Cup tie like this (we had the toughest draw of ALL the PL clubs) and that should be what matters while we improve our perf. levels in the next game.

As for replacements for Cou, I would like to caution people that we may not get a suitable replacement for Cou in Jan as next to no team will sell you their best player right now as there are already reports that Monaco will not sell Lemar in Jan. As a result, I don't want a panic buy or some player who is 3 times inferior to Cou like Mahrez, IMO. Just my opinion.


07 Jan 2018 17:03:03
BRover in total agreement with your response with regards to the derby match mate but as we have seen all season when we play with midfield of Hendo Milner Can or Wiladjum there is little or no industry it is always too slow and lethargic which is absolutely terrible to watch I'm not saying that we go blow a wad of the Couts money on an inferior player and I know that the teams with great players are reluctant to part with them in the Jan window but we have just done it and to loose all that creativity without some sort of back up plan in mid season is very worrying, is there anyone at the club to fill this void left by Couts departure? I think not, Lalana although returning from injury is a shell of his former self and if we are hoping that someone like him is going to step up and take the bull by the horns well then we are in for an interesting time till the seasons end . Hopefully it all works out and then in the summer we buy a decent keeper and address the midfield situation mate interesting times ahead me thinks.


07 Jan 2018 13:38:15
Hi eds, have to say all the doom and gloom post coutihno is beyond tiresome. The lust for an imminent big money signing is both childish and ignorant. I for one whilst a little disappointed he has gone mid season and reasonably ok with the departure. The clamour for instant gratification here is plain silly. Whilst no doubt the club will have planned for replacement (s), other areas of the squad arguably need reinforcing more so. The list of usual suspects are unlikely to arrive, certainly this month, and why would/ should clubs allow it. And before somebody says we did, it was much better to allow coutihno to leave not rather than the potential for a toxic attitude. Klopp has already shown his willingness to wait for his preferred targets so on that basis i fully expect a fan (sic) applauded big signing to happen summertime. Keep up all the good work.

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{Ed025's Note - if a player wants out mackers then he will go mate especially if the ones calling are of barelonas ilk, why would you want to keep a player who does not want to be at the club anyway?, its a big loss of course but thats the merry-go-round that is football these days, you move on and its no use crying about it its about finding a replacement with the quality to enhance the team..

07 Jan 2018 14:13:56
I've always said that Ed. It doesn't matter if it's Torquay Utd, Preston N. E, Liverpool, Everton etc etc if a player doesn't want to play for the club than get as much as you can for him and move him on.


{Ed025's Note - it has to be that way barry, there is no loyalty in football today mate..

07 Jan 2018 15:15:04
Spot on, Ed25 and Mackers. I have since stopped getting hung up on these types of transfers since Torres and LS left cos players come and go and the club will remain. Loyalty of this kind is dead in football and those always trying to get what they simply cannot have, will forever remain disappointed.

Also, I do not want a panic replacement (s) for Cou as we have seen the damage this has done to the club in the very recent past. If that means we don't sign anyone then I'm cool with it. We don't need some appeasement signing like Mahrez IMO, for the fans to get excited about. I'm not interested in that. I want our approach to be thoughtful, measured and realistic in getting Cou's replacement and if we cannot do that in Jan, I'll be cool with it as I trust Klopp to do the right thing for the club as he did in letting Cou go.


07 Jan 2018 13:23:44
Eds reports increasing that we will not replace coutinho this window but loom to make a deal this window for a transfer to happen in the summer as unlike Liverpool, teams don't allow their best players to leave in Jan. Is this now looking to be the case?

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{Ed002's Note - To the best of my knowledge nothing has changed from what I have been telling you. There are potential replacements that the club need to consider - one or two are available to sign pre-contracts now. We are less than a week in to the transfer window and apolgies that Liverpool are not signing players every single day.}

07 Jan 2018 14:04:59
Well we should. A player a day keeps the whiners away.


07 Jan 2018 14:15:02
Football fan's and patience do not go in the same sentence Ed mate.


07 Jan 2018 14:21:16
I'm not being impatient I'm asking you about the rumour that we are going to wait until the summer to make a signing as this is a rumour website.


{Ed001's Note - and this question has been answered repeatedly so why not try reading instead of gobbing off?}

07 Jan 2018 15:16:07
Patience is poison to the modern day fan.


07 Jan 2018 15:52:02
My god its long reading this page sometimes, same stuff over and over.


07 Jan 2018 13:15:45
When the Coutinho deal failed in the summer, I recall multiple outlets claiming that we attempted to line up Thomas Muller as a replacement but couldn't seal that move which meant Klopp blocked PC deal.

Admittedly, im not aware of his current situation at Munich. He is also 28 (I think) . But are the Ed's aware of those enquiries in the summer and if yes, is this a realistic name now?

All the best.

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{Ed002's Note - The offer for Thomas Muller that Karl-Heinz Rummenigge referred to was made in August and it was from another club, not Liverpool. Muller won't be moving this window and the summer at Bayern will be driven very much by a new coach who has to deal with a squad that needs some work with older players, unsettled players, players on loan that a decision needs to be made about and transfers being made at the moment without reference to the coaching staff. I would not hold your breath.}

07 Jan 2018 13:07:04
Afternoon Eds just wondering in your opinion why we waited till Jan to let coutinho go why not just of let him go in the summer and just have a season with the players we know want to play for us.

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{Ed002's Note - The club wanted to keep him.}

07 Jan 2018 12:41:05
Hey eds and reds haven't posted no where near as much as I usually do due to being a very hard couple months of family life but hey ho we move on. Anyways that isn't point of my post. Ovcourse it is the coutinho transfer that is on everyone's mind. I think every red had come to terms that he would be leaving (well I had anyways) ideas jus hoping it would be at the end of the season, a £140 odd million or whatever the price is is an incredible amount for a player but Barcelona are getting an incredible player in my opinion, I think he is about to hit his prime, his consistency levels have been improving year after year and in la liga I think he will be an absolute legend and will probably get a balon d'or in next 2/ 3 years. Whilst I can't begrudge coutinho for wanting to leave the process seems like it's been a nasty one and I think it happening now seems the best option all around.
Replacement.
We will miss his creative spark I think Keita will bring us on in ways that coutinho didn't, for me coutinho best games came from the wide left of the 3, in the middle maybe with more game time and tweaks could have worked but his wide left drifting in seemed his best position for me so that's why I believe salah was his replacement (moving manè over to left and salah on right) is a replacement going to be bought in jan, I would personally doubt it but who knows I didn't think vvd would come here either so let's keep fingers crossed that can happen. Hopefully ed002 could surprise us and say we are in negotiations with some one but I can't see it. Ed001 would love to hear who you think if or who we should go after in Jan mate?
P. s. sorry to hear about your loss mate chin up and remember YNWA.

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07 Jan 2018 13:09:01
I'm predicting a quiet window now for incomers. Not what we want to hear but Klopp trusts the players he has, all areas are covered. Only Clyne remains long term injured. Lallana once fit and the Ox once fully settled to be used rather than a brand new mega money signing. I'm just going to get on with my January now. VVD was the one Klopp desired above all else, we have him. Keita in the summer.

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07 Jan 2018 15:18:39
If there is not viable replacement for Cou in Jan then, get in the one replacement that will join in the summer and keep your powder dry. No panic or appeasement buys, pls. I can't stomach any more of that nonsense anymore.


07 Jan 2018 13:05:21
Coutinhos departure may unfortunately show up the lack of quality in midfield for the rest of the season. Creatively we could really struggle especially against teams that sit. I don't see a replacement in January. This could actually be a huge blow to the rest of our season. The money means nothing if we don't finish in the top four and hopefully win something.

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07 Jan 2018 13:50:50
I very much agree. It would be nice if we could sort something out to bring in Keita this window. Otherwise, I expect we will struggle to achieve a comfortable top 4 finish.


07 Jan 2018 13:53:06
We don’t have one player in that midfield with an eye for a pass or who can be a threat from shooting from distance.


07 Jan 2018 13:31:09
Which of course we had already guaranteed would happen if we kept coutinho, oh wait even with coutinho we only have to lose one game to not be able to win a trophy and it’d be a fight for the top 4. We might lose in the cup and we might not get top 4 and we might not but we will never know if coutinho leaving will impact that.


07 Jan 2018 13:35:08
Our win record is better without Coutinho than it is with him in the team.


07 Jan 2018 13:35:21
This season^^^.


07 Jan 2018 13:36:21
I think it's starting to sink in amongst fans now that it was a dreadful decision to let a world class player leave mid season.


{Ed025's Note - not much you can do about it really mate..

07 Jan 2018 13:38:23
Points, not win 😂.


07 Jan 2018 13:44:59
We have a new weapon against the teams that sit now, Big Virgil gives us a genuine threat at set pieces now, something we have lacked for a while. We have started the yr 2 wins from 2, without Coutinho and Salah, with both winners coming from the Centre Backs contributing to the goals. We have for too long struggled with corners at both ends of the pitch. We have paid 75 million to try and help rectify this. Come on you reds.


07 Jan 2018 15:22:31
FC8, how is it a dreadful decision to let a player (who has clearly told the club and anybody with functioning ears) that he wants out at all costs, leave? It is well-known that if a player no longer wants to play for you, there is nothing you, the coach or the owners can do about that, right? So with that in mind, what do you think the owners or Klopp should have done to keep Cou?


07 Jan 2018 12:29:27
Might throw a score on Fekir to Liverpool any chance eds u think.

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07 Jan 2018 13:09:22
Eds wat is your thoughts on how suso has progressed at Milan he seems too be getting better more goals more assists an u know the next question would he b worth a punt still young with lots of potential.


{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page - try the European page or the Spurs page.}

07 Jan 2018 15:23:04
Fekir is nothing like Cou and they don't even play the same position.


{Ed002's Note - Language ...}

07 Jan 2018 12:15:30
Ed's fellow reds . It's been along time .
The one point I want to make is surely Liverpool have lined up phil replacement before agreeing to let him go . Fsg wouldn't want this season to fizzle out because we lost phil . Would they . i know its not one player that makes a team but with our injury list at the moment we will be left lightweight. Thought please.

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07 Jan 2018 12:37:41
You'd like to think so but nothing surprises me.


07 Jan 2018 13:04:20
It's starting to look like there is no replacement which for me is very worrying especially if arsenal and spurs go out and do a bit of business.


07 Jan 2018 15:25:17
Den82 and Truth, Jan is the worst time to buy players esp. if everyone knows you need their best player to replace a key one of yours who left. There may be replacements lined up BUT if the clubs don't wanna sell in Jan, what can you do?


07 Jan 2018 12:03:07
Would Liverpool be interested in bringing in Gareth Bale? Yes I know he has had injuries but he could play anywhere across the front 3 and with the ox slotting into midfield which he has shown promise alongside wiinaldum and can for now until Keita arrives could be very potent.

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{Ed001's Note - no why on earth would we when he has publicly slagged off the team and city?}

07 Jan 2018 12:19:39
Exactly Ed. Can’t stand the pony tailed tw*t. He can do one.


07 Jan 2018 12:27:14
We will have to buy an ambulance along with Bale.


07 Jan 2018 12:38:21
Wouldn't touch the lame horse.


07 Jan 2018 13:54:32
And he has that American Hustle bald spot cover up going on.


07 Jan 2018 13:57:04
As we all know football fans are fickle sometimes. If he came and scored the goals which fired us to a title challenge all past discretion’s would be forgiven.


07 Jan 2018 15:26:38
And why would we want him to come and score the goals to win us the PL when he dissed the club and the city hence, the fans, Timelord?


07 Jan 2018 20:27:55
I am just pointing out the man is available and we have money to spend. You can’t deny the man has quality when fully fit and people always say things they regret later in life. Forgive and forget is my moto, although as people say it would be highly unlikely. Some people want Suarez back after all the problems he caused for the club.


07 Jan 2018 11:50:15
We now need to move on. Let's face it that this window has been very positive for the club. We sign VVD and also bank 140mil.

Although we have lost a very good player we have strengthened in the area we need it most. We also have a very good midfielder arriving in the summer and we will be stronger again.

It is all positive and we continue to move in the right direction. Hopefully we will have a good run in the CL and FA cup and stay within the top 4. If this happens it will turn out to be a very successful season.

Next season VVD will be settled, keita will be a breath of fresh air in the middle of the park and a couple of decent additions (GK and Couts replacement) to further strengthen will see us compete for the league.

Onwards and upwards, it's all positive!

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07 Jan 2018 12:33:35
I haven’t written off this transfer window or this season yet, it appears you have?


07 Jan 2018 15:31:49
Not at all I just like to see the positives. The only negative I mention is that we stay in the top 4. Are you thinking we can go on and win the league this season.

It would be nice but very doubtful.


07 Jan 2018 16:00:11
More that we can still finish 2nd, as opposed to skipping out of the top 4 which would be a disaster. I would still like to think we are in with a chance of the CL and the FA Cul, although the former may depend on finding a creative non-cup-tied replacement for Couts.

I’m with you on the optimism for next season tho, especially if we can win a trophy this season and give players no reason not to join us.


07 Jan 2018 11:22:13
Hi Ed’s I’ve been working away so this is my first proper look at our amazing site first of all sorry to here about your loss experience strong secondly I was a goal keeper back in the day and as it’s a charity match can you tell me will you be doing a auction as I have my all time hero some people might not like him but peter smicheal gloves signed in a frame just his signature that’s all plus can you send me details if possible about were it is thanks all the best btw.

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{Ed001's Note - there is a charity match page if you check the links at the top of the page. I am not sure if there are plans to do an auction while there, but all the details are there and I am sure a chat with benny will enlighten you. We do have a donation page on just giving or something similar but I can't find the link benny sent as it is on my phone and has decided to hide. I will find the link and post it up on the sites when I can.}

07 Jan 2018 15:27:43
I wish I could be there to either play or watch the Charity Match, Ed01.


07 Jan 2018 11:01:34
Top post from MK. Ed001 really sorry to hear of your loss. The 1st thing I do in the morning and last thing at night I check in on this site. Thank you for what you do.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much mate, glad you enjoy the site.}

07 Jan 2018 13:20:07
I thought it was just me who did that Jimmy.


07 Jan 2018 11:32:54
Morning everyone,
I'm convinced that the summer window was something klopp and the club didn't want to rumble on again in Jan. We've got the best price and got rid early in the window. Sad to see him go, but until recently he did flit in and out of games and should be producing more. Klopp has bought players when available that will improve the squad, and more recently the first team. It seems odd that they wouldn't have somebody lined up to replace him after selling in Jan. But let's not forgot we have just spent 75mill on someone who just slotted in to the side against Everton. Rash spending is not the answer. For the bigger picture and rebuilding of the club we should wait till the summer until the right players are available. Fingers crossed we will be in a position in the league to attract the top players.

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07 Jan 2018 11:27:14
Mahrez denied and Lamar denied which is no surprise and for those who didn't read Klopp's comments about him having faith in the players at the club I very much doubt there will be any players arriving this transfer window.

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{Ed002's Note - Van Dijk soon forgotten.}

07 Jan 2018 11:33:34
Ed002 or any of the Eds, please.


{Ed001's Note - ?}

07 Jan 2018 11:43:18
No I meant further but fair point.


07 Jan 2018 11:46:50
In the very same sentence Klopp also talks about reinvesting the money to help build the squad. I think he's looking for a combination of new quality and existing quality, but he won't rush buying new players for the sake of it, only wants the right players.


07 Jan 2018 11:47:40
Think he's right ed lfc won't do any more business in January as clubs will hold us to ransom an demand massive prices.


{Ed001's Note - they would have done so anyway.}

07 Jan 2018 13:08:15
Where have you seen that Lemar interest has been denied?


07 Jan 2018 12:43:36
They were always going for VVD so I don't think he counts. I personally don't think they will give another club the chance to fleece us with over the top prices.
I hope we do bring someone in but I don't see it with what klopp has been saying.


07 Jan 2018 11:47:20
Lemar denied? Ed002 has said all along Klopp wants him. Ed VVD is not forgoten, he is a good needed addition, We need someone to replace Pipco.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool made an approach in the summer and he is a player that Klopp and the club like. The poster said "I very much doubt there will be any players arriving this transfer window" - I reminded him that van Dijk had joined.}

07 Jan 2018 14:25:44
Argh right ok Ed. I read it wrong.


07 Jan 2018 15:29:54
How were we denied by Lemar and Mahrez this Jan when we have not bid for any of them?


07 Jan 2018 11:22:04
Hopefully the team can carry on playing and doing great
It’s just a bit worrying with Phil going and Emre looking like he’s going at the end of the season let’s hope morale doesn’t drop
Although I can’t imagine Klopp letting that happen
YNWA.

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{Ed002's Note - Players come and go - there is nothing special about Liverpool.}

07 Jan 2018 11:33:33
Players do come and go but there is something special. about LFC.

Just ask ed001 or any of the regulars to this site.


{Ed002's Note - I agree that many of the fans are special.}

07 Jan 2018 11:35:41
Never said there was!


07 Jan 2018 11:13:12
Not so sure what all the fuss is about, if we sign no one in this window to replace Coutinho then so be it, ox came in and is doing ok.
Adam L is back very rusty but offers another option attacking wise
Im more then content to wait for the right player even if that is in the summer.
I believe we have made the most important signing of the January window already in Virgil
Better to wait then pay way over the odds for a panic buy.

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07 Jan 2018 11:24:30
Johncrow Junior there are options out there and our squad needs strengthening, to not bring in anyone I feel would be disappointing to say the least. Ox is a good player and happy to have him but don't burden the guy by asking him to provide the goals and creativity Coutinho brought to the team. Lallana is rusty and coming back from a long injury again refer to the same points I gave for Ox.


07 Jan 2018 11:24:33
Apart from the fact that neither have the goal threat, passing range or first touch that Coutinho has.


07 Jan 2018 13:28:33
On a few occasions it would be Phil who popped up with a pass or goal when it looked like we weren't going to score. Other than Salah currently in those sorts of games where we aren't playing with much creativity and the opposition is well organised we are really going to miss Phil. lallana is going to take some time, for me the ox just doesn't cut the mustard. I don't think he ever will to be honest, personally would never have moved for him and so far he really hasn't showed any reason why he should be in the starting 11, i wish he had turned out to be class and it's early days but just watching him. He's 24 had all that time with the gunners and still has a poor 1st touch for example, even Gomez i would say has a better first touch, he's typically a CB now playing RB. Actually looked more athletic too when he was on the pitch against everton. So hopefully if we are going to carry on with he OX, he ups his game.

Can is the only Cm player really who likes to drive forward. that's another problem that we need to address come summer should he leave. He also has a few goals in him. Sadly i can't see Hendo improving too much. He's struggled ever since coming back which is a shame : ( Kieta to come in but i feel we still lack some quality in the centre, we have good players im not saying they are bad, but I think we are lacking creativity and wanting to go forward and win the game. Can't slate milner at all he's just getting on a bit now. Gini hasn't been at his best this season, but he definitely has it in him!

With couts going i would actually like Woodburn to get a little game time. I know he is young but i think the kid is class. I read some rumors somewhere he might be out on loan, which again is a shame if we aren't going to look for a replacement this window (i don't think anyone would be available) .

on the topic of replacements i would love Isco, i actually think we could get him as Zidane doesn't seem to have him in the 1st team consistently and i don't think Isco's too content, though by summer it wouldn't surprise me if Zidane had been fired so the situation with Isco might have changed. I also love asensio, but i think Perez rates him very highly despite him being dropped recently. I reckon he will be Spain's best player in a few years so interesting one to watch boys!

I'll miss Phil like i did Suarez but we did okay once we got Klopp in and purchased a few players (Salah ;) ) and i love watching the football we are playing. We got a solid price tbh, We didn't mess about with the VVD after our complete h**k up in the summer. Unlikely we will bring anyone in this Jan but hopefully we can push on for a solid campaign in the Prem, FA, Champo and invest wisely in the summer :) YNWA.


07 Jan 2018 15:34:28
Alonso, I disagree, We all want a replacement for Cou in Jan HOWEVER, what I want and the reality are two diff. things. I personally would not be disappointed if we bought no one in Jan as that would mean that Klopp could not find a suitable replacement for Cou or maybe he did in Lemar BUT Monaco refused to sell.

What I don't want is a panic buy or an appeasement signing like Mahrez or Lanzini (both supremely inferior to Cou) just so we can say we got a replacement. In essence, no more panic buys and I thank the heavens that Klopp does not do panic buys. If we don't get someone this Jan which is very possible, I'm cool with it.


07 Jan 2018 10:58:08
Mahrez does have the haircut to fit in at Liverpool isn't that right Ed002.

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{Ed002's Note - Absolutely.}

07 Jan 2018 11:04:27
There are reports that Liverpool have contacted Leicester to assure them that we have no interest in Mahrez.


07 Jan 2018 15:35:02
I hope you are right, Klavy.


07 Jan 2018 10:43:09
Ed002, Pretty much every club that has a player linked with us has said they won’t be selling in January. This includes Monaco, Leicester, RBL. Is this posturing? Knowing that Liverpool have Some money to spend and a creative hole in the squad? I’m not an expert at reading into these things. Are Monaco really saying that he’s not for sale unless you give us most of that money you have? Or is it a case of Liverpool not doing the obvious and replacing Coutinho the midfielder instead of Coutinho the left winger? In which case the media are linking the wrong players?

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{Ed002's Note - Not really, clubs don't like to sell in January because they don't plan to do so and they cannot get replacements. The thing is that the Liverpool fans want instant gratification and don't really care who arrives as long as they are expensive and it happens soon. Monaco has a lot more money than Liverpool and Liverpool has not approached them to buy Lemar - and they have said nothing like that to Liverpool. Michael Emanalo has made that very clear. Perhaps in the summer one of the interested sides can persuade them to sell.}

07 Jan 2018 11:00:05
Thank you very much. I’d agree, there is a lot of people just wanting a player at the moment. Lemar looks like he’s not coming. Liverpool are not interested in Mahrez. Gelson, no contact. Keita, only in the summer. Goretzka, Bayern bound?
I have a feeling there might be somewhat of a meltdown very soon.


07 Jan 2018 11:00:15
Oh, and thanks.


07 Jan 2018 11:08:05
I don't want us just to sign anyone ed, it needs to be the right person, surely we will at least try to bring in one of the targets you have suggested.


07 Jan 2018 11:14:06
What meltdown? We have seen several times how well the team performed without Coutinho this season. It would have been great if Coutinho stayed but still we will thrive without him.


07 Jan 2018 11:26:06
So no team what's to sell their players in January, because it's so hard to replace them and you end up paying a lot more, except for Liverpool that is, the geniuses at our club decide to significantly weaken our team without any planning for a replacement it would seem, not one person connected to football has said this makes sense in anyway, utter madness, if we get no replacement in and miss out on top 4, what is that worth to the club? 40 odd million.


07 Jan 2018 11:31:59
I don’t think we’re planning on signing anyone else in January. Here’s why:
-I’m being negative again (no, not really 😉)
-Whoever comes in will have to put up with Klopp’s rotation. I think that’s a hard sell in January in World Cup year if you are a player that’s currently playing week in/ out at another club. There’s no indication LFC are selling anyone else in January, we’re pretty heavily stocked in midfield as it is plus in the summer Keita is joining.
-Since the rumblings about Coutinho wanting to leave last summer we’ve bought Oxlade, Keita and VVD all record signings at the time. We’ve spent money already. IMO.
-The Premier league title has gone this season, that’s reality as far as I’m concerned. We are also out of the league cup. We are competing for top 4, FA cup and Champions league. I think the current squad is big enough to cope with that. Any player we get will be likely cup tied for FAcup or Champions league anyway.
-The addition of VVD will offset the loss of Coutinho IMO. Creating chances has been simple this season, we seem to score a low percentage of the chances we create, but still we are one of the top scorers. Defence has been our weakness and that’s why VVD will make an impact.
-January is a tough market to get right.

So I think in Ox, Keita, VVD and indeed Robertson (who has provided Moreno with much needed competition) we have gone a long way to addressing some of our major weaknesses. It will stand us in good stead for next season. VVD has half a season to build up a strong understanding with the rest of the defensive unit.

If no-one else comes in there will be no meltdown from me. We’re building slowly and steadily. I expect lots of movement during the World Cup summer. I think we’ll lose a few high profile players eg Can, Milner, maybe Lallana, Clyne, Sturridge perhaps Migs and Lovren. We will continue to build and improve.


07 Jan 2018 15:37:05
Well stated, Ron. Bravo, sir.


07 Jan 2018 10:37:37
Not blaming FSG/ Klopp/ Anyone, but I wish we'd signed Coutinho's replacement before selling him.
I feel it may be a little bit difficult now to sign him, with everyone assuming there's loads of cash to spend and asking "unreasonable" prices for their players.
Just throw money at Schalke for Meyer/ Goretzka. Those would be my ideal replacement.

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07 Jan 2018 10:54:03
Meyer, Goretzka might be Summer targets. You forget that the players are letting their contracts run down so they can negotiate deals themselves. It doesn't matter what we offer Shalke, the player can still choose to see out his contract and claim a bigger signing on bonus.


07 Jan 2018 12:04:38
Disappointing thing is the club as known the Couts situation for quite a while. A replacement should have already been sourced.


07 Jan 2018 13:17:57
We knew months ago we were getting a big wad of cash for Coutinho, why do you think any selling clubs wouldn't know that? They were putting a premium on any player, regardless of it being before or after the Coutinho sale.


07 Jan 2018 15:39:51
And who would have sold us that replacement in Jan, Reusch knowing fully well that clubs do not set up their system to sell their best player in Jan (which is what it would take to get a decent replacement for Cou) esp. in a WC year?


07 Jan 2018 10:22:33
Goodmorning Eds and Reds. Can any of the eds give us a brief summary of who Klop is really intetested in now tha Couts is really gone? Martins and Mahrez are wingers and not replacements of Couts. Do we still hold an interest in Draxler and Max Meyer? Thank you for your time.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware that anything has changed.}

07 Jan 2018 10:19:10
sky sports have now basically said over the last day or so that we have no plans to go for Mahrez, Lemar or bring the Keita transfer forward in Jan. So if this is indeed the case, then who the hell (if anyone) are we looking at?! haha.

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07 Jan 2018 10:44:58
Just read this on Sky to, Gelson Martins is on the list of no's for January also apparently.


{Ed002's Note - At least that implies that Salah will be staying.}

07 Jan 2018 10:56:37
If Sky say something isn't happening, it usually means there is a good chance there is something in it. They are usually just trying to slow down the betting so they don't lose so much money if it happens. Short of suspending the betting, this is as close to Sky get to reporting something genuine.

Let's just wait for the media storm to calm down a bit and then we'll see a bit more clearly as to what's going on. No point bombarding the Eds with repeat questions.


07 Jan 2018 10:56:59
Looks like we're getting no-one then. There goes the 2nd half of the season.


07 Jan 2018 11:06:02
Or by MK’s logic we’re getting 3-4 players in 😄.


07 Jan 2018 11:34:34
MK forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand the logic to that? surely sky would rather people bet at something with low odds if they know something is afoot? Reporting him as not coming would only lengthen the odds? or have I misinterpreted your post?


07 Jan 2018 11:39:44
Jesus were 7 days into January guys.


07 Jan 2018 15:41:02
Everyone needs to get off the panic pills, seriously.


07 Jan 2018 10:04:48
Exciting times ahead, we have some money burning a hole in our pockets and the question on everybody's lips is who is coming in. Lemar is the one that seems to come up and a very talented player indeed, one I would be happy with. Another option, or route so to speak we could take is improving a number of areas of the team with the money from the sale of Coutinho.

First being a replacement for Emre Can. What if we jump in now with a offer for Leon Goretzka to take him in January instead of rolling dice on waiting in the summer where a number of clubs could and would inter the fray, being a free agent. I am aware he is able to talk to clubs now and sign a pre-contract but maybe putting in a bid and showing our intent might persuade him our way and also entice Shalke into letting him go now as they would receive some money instead of him walking away for free. I believe he is able to play in Champions League so again that might be used in persuading him to join in January.

Second being a player who is one that can operate from a deeper midfield role but also play in a number 10 role or on the flanks in a front 3 in Julian Brandt. He is a player Klopp likes, again is able to play in the Champions League, is young and is a cheaper option to Lemar, but importantly is talented.

Thirdly a defender in Stefan De Vrij, who is a leader and captained Feyenoord at a young age and is very solid at the back. He would not command a hefty fee if we moved in for him now or could sign him on a free in the summer. We need stability at the back and sadly Lovren and Matip don't provide that. Those two should be sold and I would keep Klavan at the club who is an adequate backup option.

I know some might argue pace but a number of good defenders do not hold blistering pace, plus he is faster that than Matip and Lovren without the countless blunders. Joe Gomez is only 20 years of age, a player I feel lucky to have at our club, we should let him develop at right back with Alexander Arnold for next 3 years but bed him in at centre back in cup games. His development should be managed correctly along with Alexander Arnold and how Klopp is doing it now gives both of them game time and experience.

The next position is not so clear cut and that is the keeper. There is an argument for Karius and Ward who have both not played enough to fully be judged but there is an argument for a few good and some world class keepers potentially being available in the summer.

I would follow a similar strategy to the one deployed for Naby Keita and put in a bid for Jan Oblak now for the summer. Keepers like him who potentially could be available just don't come around that often, he is easily in the top 5 keepers in the world and just turned 25 years old today. If there was a glimmer of hope offer him the contract he would want, sell him the project we are building, the history, whatever it takes.

That option would see us with a very good keeper, actually world class keeper along with a solid back 4, a very solid midfield in Naby Keita and Leon Goretzka and a very good player in Julian Brandt. The front 3 speaks for itself and would have the license to flourish as they do because scoring is not our issue but with that back 4 and keeper conceding won't be either.

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07 Jan 2018 10:35:28
Im sorry, but am I the only one who thinks that if someone was to come they would have by now? They knew Coutinho would go and had half a season to get something done. Gues what a team that will let go of their best players in january without getting a replacement shows no ambition.


07 Jan 2018 10:41:51
Im not sure if we have that much money burning a hole in our pocket with Keita coming in the Summer and VVD purchased this window. That seems close to covering the Coutinho transfer.

I have to say that when Suarez went i was pretty concerned about the team and what was left, with Coutinho not so much. We have a far better squad than then.

One last thing! Please don't be calling Coutinho a legend because quite frankly he isn't and nor have many of the other players that have decided to jump ship over the past years. What have they won at Anfield? Zip, nadda, absolutely nothing! Some great performances and goals does not make you a lengend in my eyes. If that is the case then the owners may need to build a few extra stands so these "legends" can get their name up along with the KInNG. If you want to be a legend at our club you need to be winning The League or The Champions League as well as playing good football and scoring goals.

Suarez, Torres and Coutinho etc, good players no doubt. Club legends never in a million years. Not in my eyes.


07 Jan 2018 10:48:15
I agree with a lot of OP, I would say in the summer we will see both Can and Milner leave, plus we have just lost Coutinho. So for me both Meyer and Goretzka would be ideal on free transfers. I wouldn’t rule out say a Grujic leaving also. I like and would any of Lemar, Ceballos and Brandt could it be possible 4 of the 5 arrive, given two wouldn’t command a fee?

In the centre half area both De Vrij and Gimenez are available for free transfer also and I’d happily take either of them also. Akanji of Basel also looks a good prospect.


07 Jan 2018 10:49:36
Didn't realize the window closed on the 7th Booboy.


07 Jan 2018 11:14:56
@Booboy, the post from In Istanbul answered yours perfectly, its only January 7th and a few days into the transfer window.

@Irish Rover not sure who called Coutinho a legend, yes he was a very good player for us but a legend no.

@Jonesred, I would also be happy with Meyer if Brandt was not available. Now as you pointed out a few could arrive and if it was possible to get Meyer and Brandt along with Goretzka that would be perfect, as all would command achievable transfer fees and some would be free in the summer.


07 Jan 2018 13:31:02
Booboy

You need to slow down and relax.
Not even 10 days into the window. Let the club get on with its business of transfers.

Just chill bro.


07 Jan 2018 15:43:00
Booboy, we are not even in the double digits yet for days in Jan as it is only the 7th. Now if you wanna write off the season if we don't get a replacement for Cou which is possible then, that is your right. We all don't have to go that route.


07 Jan 2018 09:20:28
Ed001, we'll do our absolute best to try and win that trophy for your man. So sorry for your loss though.

What i will say, is you should be incredibly proud of what you've done here.

This isn't just a normal football forum. We raise money for charity, you provide us with genuine knowledge and transfer information, we have a laugh, we argue etc. The charity game is the culmination of everything you have done. You've touched the lives of every single regular on this site, even if only in a minor way. For me personally, you gave my dying dream of being a football writer a shred of hope, simply by giving me a platform to practice on! I will be forever grateful.

You're a legend, and all the hard work you've done, and all the humility you've shown, is why you are in a position to dedicate an entire charity game to your late friend. He would be proud, and you should be too!

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{Ed001's Note - I really don't know what to say to that. It is not often I am at a loss for words! I love doing this site and it is what I would do in my spare time if I hadn't started it myself. It has also given me the same chance as you MKS, and so I am glad to give you a chance, hopefully it will lead to a career for you.}

07 Jan 2018 10:23:37
No special words needed Ed. Everyone just wants to let you know you're not alone in your time of hardship. You've earned the friendship of us all. Thank you again though mate!


{Ed001's Note - thank you very much mate.}

07 Jan 2018 10:28:49
Top words MK,

Ed001 sorry to hear about your loss mate, hopefully the charity game will raise a shed tonne of cash in his name.


{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed mate. Thank you.}

07 Jan 2018 10:40:25
MK top post, sometimes we don't know how we impact others. I honestly hope you make it as a football writer and believe you can. Never give up on your dream especially when you are as talented as you have demonstrated. In regards to Ed1, I have already said how I feel about him just a nice decent human being who makes it enjoyable to come to this site. I have been reading this forum for probably 10 years or thereabouts and its a place to escape for when life gets tough for me and a place where I get to talk to fellow red fans.


07 Jan 2018 10:54:57
There is certainly more of a community feel to this forum than others.


07 Jan 2018 10:55:46
Well said MK

This is the best site anywhere for the LFC family to spend time at.


07 Jan 2018 11:28:06
Thanks Alonso. And very well said everyone!


07 Jan 2018 11:46:10
Here here.


07 Jan 2018 12:17:11
Hey Mk I for one like your posts nearly as much as Harrys. keep up the good work. your work reminds me a tad of tristan burkes and he turned out good so keep up the good work and maybe we can read some features in publications real soon.


07 Jan 2018 13:53:23
Only 7 days into 2018 and MK delivers post of the year. Stuff like this puts it into perspective, as much as we love football, its only a game. I think we speak on behalf of everyone in saying you have our support in this difficult time ed001. Here's to hoping we can raise a shed tonne of money for the nurses in his honour.


07 Jan 2018 09:57:28
My take on the coutinho transfer. I'm not gutted he's gone in the way I was when we lost Suarez or alonso.
He is a class player who will be missed but £146million or whatever is incredible money and as long as it's invested back into the squad and used to buy the right players should make us stronger. Unfortunately losing players to real and Barcelona is the norm these days and will continue.

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07 Jan 2018 09:01:25
Just seen about your friend Ed001! I'm really sorry to hear the sad news! Hope you're doing okay!

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{Ed001's Note - thank you B J. I really appreciate that.}

07 Jan 2018 09:21:44
According to Guillem Balegue (sorry can't spell his name lol)

We are not actively looking for a replacement for coutinho.
I find this a little disappointing to be honest. I don't think we should panic buy and klopp obviously knows what he's doing, I just think if everyone is feeling as deflated as me at the minute, there are players around I'd like us to show interest in or at least try to sign. Draxler maybe, lucas moura, aubameyang? Monaco seem to be standing quite firm with lemar so looks like that's a no until summer, it's a no for keita till summer. Guess we have to sit tight and see what happens.

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07 Jan 2018 09:39:38
Mate he doesn’t have a clue he changed his mind that many times about Coutinho going it was embarrassing.


07 Jan 2018 09:40:21
If the options are Draxler, Moura and Aubameyang then i hope we just stick with what we've got 😂 Auba has shown his true colours this season.


07 Jan 2018 09:40:49
He isn't a person to believed, i wouldn't look too much into it.


07 Jan 2018 09:49:58
When will people stop believing what they read in the news.


07 Jan 2018 09:51:17
Since when has Balague become a spokesman for LFC? He’s talking rubbish as usual. He comes across as a smug, as if he knows everything about what’s going on. Personally I find him pretty shallow. I wouldn’t consider him a reliable source. Sky obviously loves him though. Just my thoughts.


{Ed025's Note - i think your dead right razor..

07 Jan 2018 09:54:17
The player who would come in and make the most impact, and probably totally upstage Coutinho is Naby Keita.
Liverpool should offer Leipzig a sweetener they can’t refuse to bring his transfer forward to this window.
He really is that good.
The only negative is that I think he’s Champions League cup tied with Leipzig but I’d still love to see him here in January.


07 Jan 2018 10:35:36
Better to make decisions without emotion.


07 Jan 2018 09:21:34
We already have a ready made replacement in Firmino with that extra bit of physicality. Need someone to play his position up front.

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07 Jan 2018 09:38:41
Solanke!

He just needs a bit of luck and it'll all work out.

Maybe/ hopefully Woodburn can take over from Couts.

I believe!


{Ed025's Note - dont hold your breath george..

07 Jan 2018 09:43:24
Firmino will not be changing position. He is the focal point of our attack, and everything as to why our system works. Not to mention his 16 goals already this season.

He was given the number 9 shirt, and i know it's just a number, but it says a lot about the type of player the club see him as. He is going to be playing as a striker for us. Maybe alongside a partner, but he won't be dropping into midfield or onto the left wing.


07 Jan 2018 10:11:33
Couts will be a big loss.

It is not easy to replace the creativity. The though passes, little dinks over the top. There is only a select few that is able to see a move ahead.

Reminds me of the time where Alonso left. We do not see his importance until he is gone. Hopefully we can do a better job getting a replacement in this time.


07 Jan 2018 08:40:55
Good Morning Ed001
sorry to hear about your friend
I have a lost a couple close family members and I chose now to not focus on the loss but use the time to fully focus on the loved ones still here and give them my love and attention more then ever and also Prayer helps if your that way inclined as well.
celebrate your friend and the time spent together.
on a much much less important scale
It kinda makes sense why we bought ox now as maybe Liverpool knew the Coutinho deal was happening in January
maybe ox was the short term replacement all along?

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much JJ.}

07 Jan 2018 09:02:50
I hope not.


07 Jan 2018 08:53:52
your very welcome mate and thank you for doing what you do on this site and all the other eds as
have a great day.


{Ed001's Note - thank you.}

07 Jan 2018 08:10:50
He wanted to leave so let him leave, sad to see a good player go but his heart wasn't in it and no player is bigger than the club.
I personally lost that excitement when he done anything (goals, assists etc) as I knew he wanted out. Since the summer I always preferred seeing us play well without him.

£142m is great work by the owners! Record fee paid for a premier league player, second largest of all time! All for a player who wanted out and faked injury every transfer window.
Now however I hope there is a plan in place to invest it properly this window and I will reserve any judgement/ negative comments until the window closes.

For those who love stats our win ratio is almost double for when we are without cout this season! 72% without and 42% with in a similar amount of games played.
So maybe we might not get relegated without him 🙂.

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07 Jan 2018 08:50:36
Plus let's not forget we just beat everton for first time in fa cup at anfield jus imagine we got beat an lost him that would of been sheer pain.


07 Jan 2018 09:59:25
Lets not get into stats, we could have played the worse teams in the league during our time without couts.

Look better players have left the club and we haven't been doing that bad of late. With the defence sorted I think we could be a lot closer too city than we are.

We have a solid manager to take us forward and if the money from couts can't improve the team as a whole then there's something wrong.

It's a tricky with who to buy, if lemar is the main target but can't get him this month do we wait and go with what we have (which I dint think will do) or leave lemar and go with someone else.

Or as I have always said do we drop firminho behind the striker and buy ourselves a forward this month instead, then get lemar in the summer.


07 Jan 2018 17:14:20
Great work by the owners for the owners, you or I don't gain by the fee and it certainly won't be spent and then some on a top class replacement. They'll identify someone for around £50-60million around 22-23 for klopp to improve to sell at 25-26 for double the money or more then start the cycle all over again. Continuity wins trophys hence one league Cup since they took over. When will people wake up.


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07 Jan 2018 07:57:16
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Everton FA Cup 3rd Round - A Liverpool Perspective

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07 Jan 2018 08:41:32
Who is Tris Burke?


{Ed001's Note - if I told you that then you would have the secrets to the universe at your fingertips....}

07 Jan 2018 08:57:44
Maybe he knows how we are going to make the top 4 with Milner as Can as our only fit central midfielders.

I can't help it but Bobby being Bobby? If that means giving the ball way for 70 mins of the match and providing zero goal threat then you are correct. I know I know but it wasn't a good game from him at all.


07 Jan 2018 09:06:14
Bang on the money as usual. Thanks Ed.


07 Jan 2018 09:13:05
Although Chamberlain struggled to impact he game in open play, his set pieces last night were absolute quality.

He obviously set up Van Dijk for the winner, but he also put it on a plate for Gomez from 2 yards out, and set up the other Van Dijk header from a deeper position on the right. All 3 were absolute sitters in my opinion, and it was all down to the quality of the delivery.

Good review Ed. I thought you only do PL and CL games, so this is appreciated!


{Ed001's Note - just any LFC games mate.}

07 Jan 2018 09:13:53
Sorry to here over your friend Ed never easy dealing with the loss of a loved one.
As always thanks for the match review I all ways look forward
To reading your reviews of matches it is my favourite part of the site. I relation to the game great result but it did strike me how we looked short of quality in midfield .


{Ed001's Note - cheers mate glad you enjoy them.}

07 Jan 2018 11:31:33
Tris Burke is some chap I stalked on a professional social media network a few months ago. Ugly fella.


{Ed007's Note - I fixed that for you. :)

07 Jan 2018 07:47:45
There has been talk of people saying mahrez doesn't fill a position we need but id disagree. klopp has been using a 442 at times this season with salah as a striker, and with couts left mane right, but surely with mahrez he can play right as an inverted winger or left as an actual winger and mane the same, leaving salah, firmino up top?

i know we have no interest in him but i still think he would fit in well here. just my 2 cents.

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07 Jan 2018 07:01:26
It's been so busy over the Christmas and New Year period

Results have been good even when performances have dipped and that's not a bad sign

We have finally seen the end of the Barcelona Phil transfer saga. Very good player gone but what a fee.

If Phil had not been our player I don't think we would have been looking to buy him in from another club at that price.

Great to beat Everton in the FACup and what a debut for VVD. Clearly we have to wait to see how it turns out but watching the game I felt more confident about our defence with VVD at the back. We also have more attacking options at set pieces now with VVD around.

Really pleased that Joe Gomez and Trent are continuing there fine progress in and around the first team. It's great to see and those two could have saved us a fortune in transfer fees if we had to be bring in guys for their places.

Hearing of the loss of Ed001 best mate is so sad and I just hope the pain and sadness get bearable. Treasure the memories and never forget the good times.

It's the time of year maybe but the loss is someone close to you puts things in perspective.

Buy Phil . thanks for the memories

Welcome Virgil to LFC

Looking forward to seeing who we sign next. Maybe Lemar. who knows. other than Ed001 or Ed002?

Best recent edition to these pages has been Ed025. It is great to have an Evertonian on here who can provide humour and sense and mix it with LFC fans. that's what football banter is all about.

Let's hope for silverware this year but more than that let's just hope 2018 brings us all a bit of happiness and closer together.

YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you from all the Eds Tommy G.}

07 Jan 2018 07:58:03
Well said Tommy G we can see that we're not a million miles away from competing at the top we have good players coming through the ranks were in a really good position let Barcelona have coutinho who was the last player to come through their ranks to achieve great things or even more who was the last player they bought cheap and turned into a world beater.


07 Jan 2018 08:01:39
Well said Tommy mate, lots to look forward to and be positive about. My thoughts and best wishes to you Ed01 if our players show half the commitment to the club that you do to this site we’ll be sitting pretty.


{Ed001's Note - cheers Squizza, though it is different for the players, they are employees rather than creators of the club, to be fair.}

07 Jan 2018 06:57:09
Good morning Ed's, great job at calming everbodies passions!

Do you know of any goal keepers that we are looking at?

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - this has been answered mate, repeatedly.}

07 Jan 2018 09:05:29
Jeez do people not read the posts.


07 Jan 2018 06:49:01
So obviously now, we’re all in a position where we’ll be looking at potential replacements and all sorts of names will be branded about. There’s been plenty so far but the one that stands out the most to me is Nabil Fekir. He is the closest like for like replacement we’ll get from what I’ve seen, even more so than lemar. In terms of statistics and versatility he’s superior to lemar in the same league. He would most probably cost a lot less as well but I can’t say that with any certainty in this sort of market. The cons are that he’s had a few bad injuries that have been long term so he might be somewhat injury prone, and there are a few things to his game that would need coaching, I suspect Klopp might be able to do that. He’s no coutinho but who is at this current point in time, unless we had super scouts that can spot someone from the South American leagues (which let's face it they can hardly spot talent in our own league) we’re not going to get another couts.

Do the eds or anyone else know if we have shown any interest in him or had him watched at any time, or is he just a random name at the moment?

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{Ed001's Note - are you sure you have watched Fekir play? He is more of a Firmino false 9 player than anything like Couts.}

07 Jan 2018 06:59:12
Closest player to couts is Isco imo.


07 Jan 2018 07:13:06
I’ve seen him a few times this season where he’s played in behind Mariano but mainly last season with lacazette. He’s quite a versatile player in that he’s played quite a few positions successfully, whether it be out wide, in behind the striker, in the false 9 so in that sense he’s somewhat similiar to couts. Just a shout though.


{Ed001's Note - he is by far and away best as a false 9. He is the closest equivalent to Firmino around Europe I have ever seen.}

07 Jan 2018 07:19:07
Closest player to Coutinho is Coutinho!


07 Jan 2018 07:31:39
Atill think that the mindset of rrplacing coitinho like for like will be harmful. We need modfield stability and energy and attackong depth. That could come in 2 or 3 players really.


07 Jan 2018 08:56:08
Faithinworks that strategy of signing two or three inferior players has been out strategy before and had never ever worked. Think how we spent the Torres/ Suarez/ Stirling money badly in not bringing in actual like for like top class talent, because that is what you’re suggesting we do now.


07 Jan 2018 11:44:19
As usual you misinterpret what im saying. Heere it is put sinply - we don't need to replace coutinho. We have skill areas that need strengthening, let's just do that.


07 Jan 2018 06:36:20
A few thoughts on the transfers

- even though it got a bit messy in the end, I will remember our little magician fondly for the good times he gave us and wish him well. YNWA Phil

- In terms of replacing him, frankly we can't just get anyone to add that flair so we're going to have to be patient to ensure we get the right quality, even being prepared to wait until the summer for Lemar if required as he looks like the closest thing

- Until then we have Lallana coming back and Ox able to backup the forwards and play attacking midfield, so first team is OK for starters even if a little thin. let's hope we don't knee jerk for someone ordinary, would rather we just used Woodburn and Grujic to rotate our first team from time to time.

- Three biggest unresolved issues now IMO are the GK, what to do at striker if Solanke doesn't come good soon, and who we get in to play the deeper role when Can leaves, unfortunately we don't have anyone other than Hendo and he's got real issues with his fitness

- Exciting times but Ed's friend is a reminder that there are more important things out there.

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07 Jan 2018 08:58:45
SGRed, Lallana and Ox are nowhere near the quality of footballer that Coutinho is. They both lack the final ball and the awareness that Coutinho has. This is anything but exciting, we enter the second half of the season without one of our best players.


07 Jan 2018 05:42:28
Just watched Coutinhos 54 goals for us. I encourage everyone to do so.

We watched him grow and how he grew and performed.

I understand both sides of the argument because I feel both. I think all of us, deep down, do.

We are the adoring partner and the jilted lover. (liver) .

But he's gone and we're here. He was especially good and becoming great.

It's not you, it's me. (Translate )

It's not us, it's him.

Good luck Phil.

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07 Jan 2018 07:20:50
It's weird how we lost our best South American players to Barcelona in recent years!


07 Jan 2018 09:07:19
Sold us down the river get over it.


07 Jan 2018 05:14:16
What do we anticipate will happen to Firmino's this week? I've heard he said nothing more than a insult in Portuguese that was not racial.

Ed1 My condolences, Remember the good times and dedicate some small part of your life to them. YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Angus, I will do that. We are also playing the charity match in the summer for a trophy in his name.}

07 Jan 2018 05:28:00
Wonderful idea! My friend in Cali lost his sister (who I will always remember driving us through France at over 100mph lol) a few years back and built a Futsal field in her honor. The kids in the neighborhood come over and play a few times a week and his older boy is a rising keeper prospect as well in the Cali youth system.


{Ed001's Note - that's a good idea. Where abouts is the futsal field? Give it a plug in case anyone is ever in the area.}

07 Jan 2018 05:31:07
Is that the same charity match you guys have been talking about, or another one?


{Ed001's Note - yes mate, same one.}

07 Jan 2018 04:34:10
Wishing all Eds a Happy New Year and may 2018 be a great year for all of you. Ed1, condolences to you. Very sorry to hear about your loss.

Im so glad the Couthino saga is over. Wishing him all the best. A lost in mid season but he wants to go. Hoping the team will gain more without the distravtion he have caused.

Hope we find the best replacement for him and don't panic buy like previously.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much MR, have a great one too.}

07 Jan 2018 03:54:23
I would be really excited if we got Mahrez as long as he improves our team.

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07 Jan 2018 06:04:46
How can anyone disagree with this?


07 Jan 2018 08:33:31
Someone disagrees that it would be great if Mahrez was bought and he had good influence?


07 Jan 2018 03:32:33
Ed001, very sorry to hear about your loss. Just hang in there, this time shall pass too.
YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much Shayaan.}

07 Jan 2018 02:53:56
I know I'm late but I would like to wish All the ED's a Happy New Year and thank you for you hard work. I would like to send my condolences to ED1.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much Bravesun, late is far better than never.}

07 Jan 2018 02:32:13
Good luck phil. Iv loved watching him play for us. I have no ill feelings towards him one bit gutted he's going but that's life.
Next year the world will br calling him world class.

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07 Jan 2018 04:04:11
Why wish him well, though? He's behaved poorly, and has no respect for our club.
I personally hope he rots, same Barcelona as a club.


07 Jan 2018 05:51:27
Have you ever been in a position where you really want something but you know that your desire will hurt someone else?

Even someone you truly care about.

Thats all that's happening here.

I understand, but he served us well.


07 Jan 2018 07:12:29
Coutinho couldn't care less that he is affecting us, he wants an easy La Liga medal in May.
Like I said, I hope he rots and the rest of his career goes poorly.


07 Jan 2018 10:36:05
Geez LoweLFC, bit harsh mate. Best of luck to the lad.


07 Jan 2018 02:23:36
Hi Eds,
I have question for you eds. Coutinho is gone now, do you think we need to buy replacement for him now? For me we don't need panic buy since we have Mane and Salah on wings, Lallana is fit and can play in center midfield and on wings same for OX. We have Woodburn waiting for opportunity. What is your opinion since no teams wants to sell there best players in January?

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{Ed001's Note - we do need to replace him, but not with a panic buy.}

07 Jan 2018 05:38:42
Would go with Brandt. Can play on either wing or as an attacking midfielder. Perfect replacement for Coutinho.


07 Jan 2018 06:08:58
Havent read all the posts but who would ed001 go for if he had the choice, the availability matters obviously?


{Ed001's Note - Lemar.}

07 Jan 2018 02:13:44
And so the cycle of moaning starts again.

Firstly i would like to say thankyou for all the memories, the crazy goals and all the trophys that we were never able to win with coutinho. Its just a shame he was not able to leave more amicably as he really was something of a local hero, if more than anything the manner of how he has left has gutted me far more than the fact that he has. The fact i had more empathy for suarez when he left than coutinho, even after suarez tried to eat a man, says a lot.

But the earth keeps spinning and the reds will keep banging in tricky goals. At least we have a good team now as opposed to when suarez left.

But now we get into the really fun debate of who should replace coutinho, and already, people are getting a bit upset, namely that mahrez may replace him. From my point of view the criticism is a typical unfair assessment of thinking every player in a foreign league is better because we do not watch them every week.

Two key things here. Firstly, i think people are drastically overstating how good coutinho actually is and that we have somehow lost in this scenario. Coutinho is a good player but even in this insanely inflated market, he isn't worth anything close to £140 million. We have fully mugged barcelona off, they are still reeling and panicking from the neymar transfer. I don't even think he is clever enough for their team to be honest. He is a very direct player whose game mainly revolves around running at the defense and cutting inside, or shooting from range. And he is very good at it, albeit not with the consistency barcelona need. He is not intelligent enough to control the game like iniesta or gerrard, nor is he intelligent enough to run a defense ragged with selfless play like firmino, messi or hazard. Even though he has good balance and feet, he still isn't a patch on players like zidane, ronaldo, ronaldihno or neymar. He is a good player, we have lost our talisman, but he is not that great. Dare i say it, he is quite one dimensional. Very good at what he does, but i do not think it will be too difficult to replace, and he could be quite a selfish player on the ball.

Secondly, we now we have to replace him, who can we realistically get? All the best players are at clubs who are never ever going to sell to us. Isco, hazard, silva, ozil, these players would be ideal replacements but are never going to happen in a million years. So the next person who comments on a post saying 'no, we need to buy top class players' should instead post a lengthy essay on which player they are referring to, why they would be an ideal replacement and why they are obtainable, because i am really not seeing many options.

Lemar could be an option. Draxler, could be an option. Brandt could be an option. Fekir could be an option. I don't watch these players an awful lot, but then again i don't go around telling people how amazing these players are compared to mahrez, when the reality is that i have just not watched these players enough to understand the flaws in their game. From what i have seen of lemar he has talent, but at £90 million it is not the same kind of refined talent that de bruyne or hazard had on display when they moved to the premier league, talent and consistency so great that it was clear adapting to the new league would never be a problem. For me lemar has the potential to be a bit risky, a bit of a flake, another markovic or di maria waiting to happen. So does draxler, so does brandt.

In england, we very much have a culture of fantasising over foreign names we have never seen kick a ball, and also not appreciating the talent we have in our own country and not giving it a chance. Mahrez is a very good player who is premier league proven, a former player of the year winner, who shares a lot of coutinho's attributes. He is coming into his prime years and has attracted the attention of barcelona in the past, which is no mean feat. He is also, let us not forget, a premier league champion, already winning more with leicester than coutinho has with us.

So why the stick? Well, he has been the unfortunate victim of the english press and was somehow blamed for ranieri's poor management and incompetence, a scapegoat for the failure of their 'flavour of the month' manager. I have a hard time making these allegations of poor attitude stick. As long as the lad really wants to join liverpool then the rest will follow. I haven't heard anything but complaints of poor attitude for almost every player liverpool have bought in recent times. Mane, van dijk, chamberlain, wijnaldum. they've all turned out alright. I don't think klopp is stupid enough to buy someone he considers trouble.

Like i say, fans are more inclined to think players they have never seen play are better than those in their own league, and i think that seems to be the key to both the mahrez transfer and the key to klopps transfer policy. Klopp himself knows the difficulties of adapting to the premier league. He understands the importance of buying players from within the league, players who are settled in the country and already have a grasp of what they are joining for when they move to your team. Its the reason why he was willing to splash out so much on van dijk, because he has realised that having a vocal leader who is composed and comfortable is more important than a foreign player who may have more talent on paper, but is not comfortable in the country. A lot of our signings are more in their mid 20's now as opposed to around 20, which is also a deliberate shift under klopp. Based on the success and logic of that approach so far, i really don't understand the uproar over mahrez, it makes perfect sense to me. And even if you do not want to sign mahrez, please leave a decent explanation why and what you would do differently in this whole situation, rather than bashing the club and players who haven't joined us yet, and generally making january an even more unpleasant month than it already is.

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07 Jan 2018 08:03:01
Why do you assume that no-one has watched players based abroad multiple times? People do watch more than just the premier league. Similarly, many folks will only ever see mahrez on match of the day (outside of the two games against us) . that's hardly an accurate assessment either.


07 Jan 2018 00:53:33
Thomas Lemar definitely looks like a Klopp type player. Strong, quick, direct and incredibly difficult to get the ball off. Has great quality on the ball and loves to work hard. I'm hoping we pursue with signing him.

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07 Jan 2018 00:11:13
Just a hunch (no itk or anything like that) but I have a suspicion we may see Julian Brandt joining before the end of the window. Of the linked names, at the right quality according to most, he's one who is eligible to play in the CL knockout phases, and we know that Klopp is a fan. He could also be a Salah replacement (as Ed002 would point out 😂) if he were to be attracted by Real Madrid in the future.

Anyone share this feeling, or is it just a dodgy kabab that's causing it?! 😭.

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07 Jan 2018 00:07:52
I will always remember his goal against United at Old Trafford. Ran the length of their half round there defence and pokes it past De Gea. Never seem Old Trafford so silenced.

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06 Jan 2018 23:56:56
Sad to see Coutinho go as he is a quality player and we’ve seen him grow up, his game improve and Jt would have been a nice story if it continued but ah well thins happen. We gained a lot of money for him so all parties win. I wish him all the luck unless they come up against us. This doesn’t feel like the Suárez move in very optimistic, got a great defender in we have Keita coming in the summer, getting linked with other good players, we still have allah Salah! Optimistic as long as the money can be spent but not thrown about it panic as I don’t think this weakens is too much regardless of his talent.

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06 Jan 2018 23:40:46
I logged in to see what was the latest on a Countinho replacement etc but now I've read about ED01s loss it's really irrelevant; RIP to your friend; it's a dreadfully sad time; I hope it was peaceful for him and mind yourself.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much Istanbul, it was time for him. He had been struggling for a few months and it was a relief in many respects for him.}

06 Jan 2018 23:26:13
Sky sports now saying mahrez rumours aren't true liverpool saying they not true.

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07 Jan 2018 17:13:42
The fact Liverpool need to respond tells you this rumour may have some legs to run.


06 Jan 2018 23:07:58
Thoughts are with you Ed, very sad news. YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much TR.}

06 Jan 2018 22:35:56
I'm sorry, but why is everyone sending condolences to Ed001? Are you okay Ed? Is there anything we can do?
YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - I am ok thank Noski, lost my best mate just before Xmas and his funeral is Monday.}

07 Jan 2018 03:36:33
I'm so sorry to hear this. It's sad because I attended a memorial service today for an elderly couple who died one week of each other, last Saturday, and the Saturday before.
I'm hoping you find some comfort from having so many "friends" on here chatting you up.
Hold your head up high, Ed. YNWA.


{Ed001's Note - I am so sorry to hear that, my great aunt and uncle were a bit like that. Sometimes some couples can't live apart, I know auntie Beattie couldn't live without him, she had waited 30+ years for him after he vanished during the war and turned up years later having lost his memory at Dunkirk, while they were engaged, and got married to the nurse who looked after him.}

06 Jan 2018 22:34:09
Keep your chin up Ed001, mate.

We'll do your buddy proud in June.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers Zed, I want that trophy for him!}

06 Jan 2018 22:18:53
ED001, so sorry to hear about your loss, YNWA. Remember the good times.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much OG.}

06 Jan 2018 22:15:32
Ed001, just to get away from the obvious topic of conversation for a minute can I ask who you would partner with VVD in the short and long term?

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{Ed001's Note - short term I would say Klavan as he is the most defensively responsible. Long term Gomez.}

07 Jan 2018 08:38:37
We agree Ed, there’s a novelty! Also would you be happy with the defensive unit if we added a top keeper? I think it’s the biggest transfer we need.


{Ed001's Note - to me that's the key transfer. Ward should have been given the season on loan to Huddersfield to see if he could become the keeper we needed, but as he hasn't we have to find one somewhere else.}

06 Jan 2018 22:02:46
Ed001.Reading some recent posts I understand you have had a loss to bear. I lost my lady at the end of 2016, she was 31. It still hurts but my family at home and the one at L4 got me through. YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - so sorry to hear that kimura. My condolences mate, that is far too young to lose someone.}

06 Jan 2018 21:48:46
Just wish to say sorry for your loss Ed,
Best wishes and thanks for the recent info provided 👏👏.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much Mr P.}

06 Jan 2018 21:47:53
Firstly ed, condolences to you and your friends! Friendship is what makes people who they are.

Just read an "£142m is only £32m short of what Hicks and Gillett 'paid' for the whole club 11 years ago. "

Article, amazing to think 11 years ago we thought we were on an amazing journey with these 2 clowns! Amazing how far we’ve come since that civil war and pretty demoralizing days!

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Niallo and you are very right, football has gone insane.}

06 Jan 2018 21:13:03
Hey ed I don't often post here but I'm a long time reader . Very sorry to hear about your friend . Keep the head up .

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much John.}

06 Jan 2018 21:11:41
Chin up Ed01, YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers Toe Knee!}

06 Jan 2018 23:38:17
classy statement released by Klopp. The club didn’t all they could to try keep pip. He said you cannot transfer the heart and soul of LFC although many clubs would like to buy it”.

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07 Jan 2018 00:10:11
You sure that was Klopp? His English suddenly improved quite drastically.


07 Jan 2018 01:01:08
To sell Couts part way through the season makes no sense unless he pushed it through somehow, I think that’s the message I read in to the statement, he wanted to go.

Couts becomes another good player who played for us but Legend, no. Could have been if he won something significant with us but not on the basis of the last 5 years, it’s bye, bye and all the best.


06 Jan 2018 23:25:47
On mahrez. He's a winger, is he replacing coutinho or salah? I'm assuming salah. I see lemar reguardless of mahrez being sought probably more likely in the summer. As for attitude, benny why are you talking about a back? Are you talking about coutinho? I've already spoken about coutinhos attitude and also he's a Barcelona player, what's the point?
Mahrez was like a few at Leister appalling when the club were struggling under raneiri especially behind the scenes. You really think he's a team player and fighter? You think if klopp has a bad patch he's a player to perform and dig in? I certainly don't. I don't want that at our club. We could have another sakho situation on our hands were he pisses klopp off and his future with us will be cut short rapidly.
You're harping on about stats and goals. Few have criticised his quality (when he decides to turn up) many are wary of him. He could be a fantastic buy if he performs and keeps his head down. If *.

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07 Jan 2018 00:22:42
What are you bringing salah up for?
Mahrez would be a replacement for coutinho. An that, to me would be an upgrade. He is a beautiful footballer, that got stuck in massively for leicesters cause. People forget leicester were a counter attacking team, he was up and down that flank all season the year they won the PL.
For people moaning he is a winger, I think he will be fantastic in the cam role with two engines behind him. Him being a winger doesn't make a difference. I was a cf that ended up being paid playing in goal. Countless wingers have gone on to be great central midfielders/ CAMS. David silva, KDB, Gerrard (best days were at RM) Ozil, Sanchez, messi pre suarez, Erickson to name a few.
I just want people to look past him being a winger, he would be fantastic pulling strings with the magic 3 in front. An besides, our front four are interchangeable with fluid rotation. All basis would be covered, from skill and assists with bobby/ mahrez, to pace and goal threats from mane and salah.
And then there is the people moaning about his attitude. How would you feel if you win the league then see kante, drinkwater, schlupp and huth all sold. Yet you not be allowed to go? He didn't get his move this summer, yet hasn't faked back injuries to avoid 6 games i make it now, hasn't had his family slag off his club etc etc.
Rant over, fully support mahrez if he comes, maybe im the only one who can see what a talent he is. oh wait he was pfa/ writers/ fa player of the year as well as african footballer of the year. But dave down the pub said he's no coutinho, so we best stay clear?
an breath :)


07 Jan 2018 00:39:11
Sky sports saying that LFC are not interested in Mahrez.


07 Jan 2018 02:38:31
At this point, its obvious Lemar is who Klopp really wants in our midfield. We made our bed by selling Couts before signing a replacement so just pay what it takes to sign Lemar. It could be the difference between playing UCL or Europa next season.


 
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