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03 Dec 2017 20:28:42
Evening Ed002. Now that that guy you mentioned has left Barca, were are we at with regards to them looking at other options given that November has passed please?


{Ed002's Note - They are considering their options.}

1.) 04 Dec 2017 06:08:18
They will be back for Couts. Just a matter of time and i hope it happens for LFC and the player's sake. This saga has gone on for too long now. We don't need more toxic ruining our season.

2.) 04 Dec 2017 14:11:42
yes its best for everyone that this is sorted soon, all we need to do is set a price with Barcelona, then let him go, just have a replacement standing by, not really sure who, there are two maybe three who could come in, so it depends who would actually want to come to Liverpool .

3.) 05 Dec 2017 03:06:51
Happy? You said 2 or 3? At 100mil likely only 1 come in. All clubs that negotiate will inflate their prices.

4.) 06 Dec 2017 12:26:59
sorry, Relax, I meant one from a choice of 2 or 3, I still expect Gomez to move across to his natural position of centre back later this season, or for next season,



13 Nov 2017 10:20:20
Hi eds

You said a while back that Goretzka is of no interest and that Barcelona ir Juve is a more likely destination. Can I ask is that still the case please as the appears to be lots of talks on here suggesting we are after him and also with the player saying he would like to move to England?


{Ed002's Note - What I would have said is that Liverpool has not approached Schalke which is correct (or at least was last time I asked). Leon Goretzka was of interest to Southampton in 2016 but Schalke said they had intention of selling in the short-term but as he has been reluctant to listen to offers of a new contract they are accepting he will leave at the end of his contract. Juventus still maintain their interest from the summer and MIlan are looking to making a second cash offer to take him in January - the first being rebuffed by Schalke who told them he would stay until the summer as they don't have a replacement. Barcelona are also interested in Leon Goretzka - but the player wants assurances over game time. Arsenal are interested but he is not first choice for them. Spurs, Inter, Manchester City and Bayern Munich have all looked at Goretzka as a possible option with Bayern Munich making it known that they would offer a guarantee but they cannot speak to him in January - although they will continue to make their position clear to his agent. A move to any of these sides seems less likely right now. Liverpool considered Goretzka when they were struggling to reach agreement over Nobby Keita but I am not aware, as everyone seems to be suggesting, that they have already agreed a January transfer with Schalke. His representative has recently met with Manchester United and another English side.}

1.) 13 Nov 2017 11:36:28
HI Ed002,

Firstly thank you for your response in regards to the above.

What are the legalities surrounding a club letting a player know that if he were to wait until the summer to sign for them that he would be a starter (i. e. as Bayern have done) . Is there not a risk that this could upset Schalke and potentially be deemed as some form of tapping up by some?

Many thanks for your time in advance

Red Sandman.

{Ed002's Note - Bayern cannot talk directly to the player and they have not done that. They have spoken with his representative. That is just fine.}

2.) 13 Nov 2017 11:48:45
Cheers for your detailed reply ed really appreciate it mate, that's clear enough for me.

3.) 13 Nov 2017 13:47:59
I really don't get this if true.

Goretzka is quality and I'd love to see him at Liverpool, but he is pretty much a slightly taller version of Emre Can. Can is probably more creative and better defensively, but Goretzka is a better goal scorer by far.

If Klopp is willing to have a slightly less mobile midfielder, I'd rather he just reassures Can of his place in the team long term, than make a change for changes sake. Goretzka might hate England and want to leave in a year.

Weird one in my opinion. I really rate Goretzka and Can. They both remind me of Gerrard at a similar age with their powerful running, tall frames, and ability to score all kinds of goals.

The only explanation i can think of is that Klopp has rethought what he wants from his midfield, but Emre Can has already got his heart set on moving 🤔 that would explain why we'd replace him with a similar player. Either that, or Can just doesn't score enough goals in Klopp's opinion, as Goretzka scores double what Can does.

Could just be nonsense though i guess!

{Ed002's Note - Can doesn't want to play for Liverpool - he wants to leave.}

4.) 13 Nov 2017 14:04:18
That would explain it Ed. If Can has now gotten to a stage where he just wants to leave, and Klopp has decided he regrets phasing him out last season. Can has played far more this year than he did last year.

If that is the case, Goretzka would be an ideal replacement i guess. Though I'm still sceptical that we're actually interested.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation as I understand it - I am not aware that Liverpool has completed the transfer for him to join in January. Goretzka was certainly looked at as an alternative to Keita.}

5.) 13 Nov 2017 14:33:00
Cheers Ed. I'd rather Goretzka than Andre Gomes! The media are no doubt getting way ahead of themselves as usual though. I am not paying any attention to rumours the deal is done. Until you of 001 says we're interested, then it's just a rumour as far as I'm concerned.

By the way, since you told us that Andre Gomes will be offered for Coutinho, loads of places have reported it 😂 you're an anonymous internet sensation!

{Ed002's Note - They have a number of players available for both January and the Summer MK.}

6.) 13 Nov 2017 15:05:27
I would assume that is; L. Suarez, Mascherano, Gomes, Rafinha, Rakitic, D. Suarez, Vermaelen etc.

In your personal opinion Ed002, do you think there are any players Barcelona could realistically include in a deal that would represent good business for Liverpool, and who are they? Cheers in advance and no worries if you would rather not say.

{Ed002's Note - None of them represent good business unless Liverpool has an interest in them. Klopp seems to like Rafinha although they are talking to another side about him already.}

7.) 13 Nov 2017 15:31:33
Hi ed, as juve have signed matuidi and of can goes there, would they still look to goretzka?
Always trust what you say ed, but I would love to see him in a Liverpool shirt!

{Ed002's Note - Can and Goretzka are very different players and Juventus see Can playing in a defensive midfield role where they are light. Where they are not short is in the more central midfield position and they have Matuidi and several others, including Khedira Marchisio and Sturaro. Kwadwo Asamoah will leave in the summer and perhaps one other. They are still interested in Goretzka but are certain not convinced he will sign. But it is unrelated to Emre Can.}

8.) 13 Nov 2017 15:35:45
Cheers Ed.

9.) 13 Nov 2017 16:28:34
Firmane, Can and Goretzka can and have easily played together.

Can is slightly more defensive, and also the better passer, whereas Goretzka is better in air and a better shooter.

They are similar in terms of physique, mobility and style of play. Both players like to pick up the ball and drive forward (more with power than skill) . Can tends to start from deeper though and at the end of his runs he usually looks for a pass whereas Goretzka would have an eye on the goal every time.

Both great players. Similar in some ways, but as Ed002 suggested, very different capabilities. Germany won the Confederations Cup with them both playing alongside each other in midfield. So Juventus wouldn't hesitate to sign them both, I'm sure. Hopefully we end up with one of them in red next season; whichever it is! Neither really thrive when it comes to pressing, but perhaps Klopp now realises that not every midfield player has to just run around like a headless chicken!

10.) 13 Nov 2017 16:58:19
Mk I wasn't questioning whether they can play together, just thought juve had a few cms already, as we mentioned plus pjanic and wondered if it would be one or the other, but as we says they are not related.

11.) 13 Nov 2017 17:26:57
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12.) 14 Nov 2017 17:15:25
Completely agree with Ed that none of L. Suarez, Mascherano, Gomes, Rafinha, Rakitic, D. Suarez, Vermaelen or Turan are good business, either because they’re not good enough (Rafinha, Gomes, D. Suarez) or because they’re past their prime and would be a liability on the pitch (Rakitic, Mascherano, Turan, Vermaelen) or a complete lunatic and a liability on the pitch (L. Suarez) . A big sack of cash or no deal for Coutinho.

{Ed002's Note - Coutinho wants to go, it is a case of negotiating the best deal - this "big pile of cash or no deal" will leave Liverpool screwed if they have such ideas as well.}



07 Nov 2017 17:29:40
Hi eds

Are you aware of any interest in Salah from Athletico Madrid at this time please?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach or interest being shown by AM. Perhaps the potential departure of Carrasco has sparked the suggestion. I would think it very unlikely that Liverpool would be open to a sale and I am not aware of the player being unsettled at this time.}

1.) 07 Nov 2017 18:05:39
I was hoping you would say that mate. Thank you for quick responce.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

2.) 07 Nov 2017 18:54:13
If we sold coutinho would carrasco be an option?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest in him. If Mane or Salah went it would make more sense.}

3.) 08 Nov 2017 13:05:13
Hi FPF - logic is fine but desire to join Liverpool is even finer. The player has given no indication that he would like to join Liverpool. He would much rather go to Italy or Spain. Unfortunately most of the players that we would like to sign are wanted by other bigger clubs which have more to offer to some players.

4.) 08 Nov 2017 13:25:43
ben, what do you mean "bigger clubs"? There is no bigger than us. We offer legacy, we offer history, we offer The Kop which can easily pawn Nou Camp, Santiago Bernabéu or Etihad or Calderon . More over we have Klopp factor and ageless YNWA song. What else can others offer?

5.) 08 Nov 2017 14:54:37
Why would Salah leave? He joined only a few months back and playing some great football.

6.) 10 Nov 2017 07:02:14
objectively, there are a few clubs bigger than us. is it wrong to acknowledge this? anywho, that reply must be in response to an earlier post about goretzka aye? seemed odd here haha but anyways, players don't typically move from barcelona to liverpool. just saying.

7.) 14 Nov 2017 12:39:46
If you are going to determine bigger clubs would be worth working out what players and agents think, not fans, cos ultimately those 2 groups are the ones who view a club as attractive or not.



04 Nov 2017 20:27:42
Good evening ed002.

Hope your well mate. Are we any closer to the Sharkopod please. Pretty please.


{Ed002's Note - I will be back Tuesday or Wednesday



02 Nov 2017 17:48:27
Eds do you no if Wolfsberg will look to try and sign Origi permanently after his loan?


{Ed002's Note - It is certainly possible.}

1.) 02 Nov 2017 19:20:07
Ok maye thank you for your reply. Tbh I wasnt expecting that, I thought he went there to gain experiance to return to us next season a better player.

2.) 02 Nov 2017 20:51:56
Wolfsburg wanting to sign him permanently and Liverpool actually agreeing to it are two totally different things.

3.) 02 Nov 2017 23:06:15
He's not good enough. Let him make his career elsewhere.

Good luck to him.

4.) 02 Nov 2017 23:56:17
Beddoerocks he's 22 you can;t write him off like that mate that's unfair.

5.) 03 Nov 2017 00:00:55
He was good and firing til our Merseyside C team injure him.

6.) 03 Nov 2017 07:46:52
Carleone I think he is a decent enough player but he is not going to make us better?

from what I have seen he is never going to be top striker and why not let him go? There is always the buy back option if I turn out to be wrong and he suddenly becomes the next Ronaldo.

7.) 03 Nov 2017 08:23:03
Corleone I agree he shouldn't be wrote off mate he looked a great player when full of confidence and not learning a new role ie second season, but with the signing of solenake who looks better and younger and the continuing rise of Brewster I'd be happy if he chose to continue his career elsewhere.

8.) 03 Nov 2017 08:32:51
Ed I take it we won't need to replace him given we have Solanke now in ahead of him?

{Ed002's Note - Solanke and Origi are unrelated as players - totally different.}

9.) 03 Nov 2017 09:18:22
Mickmullin - Fair comment mate.

10.) 06 Nov 2017 06:35:09
Whilst he is a decent player who will develop a bit in the next couple of years the question is does he add top 4 quality to the squad. I'm not convinced personally but I'm equally not worried if he is on the bench as a change of approach. I just don't see him ever being a first choice.




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15 Dec 2017 16:10:10
Eds regarding our new CB options in Jan, does os still seem to be De Vrij or Howedes, has there been any progress with either?




11 Dec 2017 09:57:58
Jesus christ. How many did we loose by yesterday! Get behind the team and support the lads in every game.


1.) 11 Dec 2017 11:24:57
To right klopsreds so many bitching and whining jeez it was a merseyside Derby they are never easy or straight forward yes we had chances to win but that's football try getting behind the team and let's do our job right first cause we have been pretty quite at our home games so we are not perfect either
Up the pool.

2.) 11 Dec 2017 11:49:30
Totally agree nothing like an over reaction nothing guaranteed in a derby so draw not to bad plus people moaning about klopps selection that team he put out created more than enough chances to win that game so can’t blame klopp for bad finishing.

3.) 11 Dec 2017 12:47:56
Moaning and bitching about things you cannot control or know nothing about sitting on your telly watching games, is the new thing now for some of the quote on quote fans we have now. Did not hear them moan while we were collecting 17 points from a possible 21 of late BUT hey let's throw the toys out of the pram cos you did not win a derby game where we were unlucky to win so blame insert name here cos that is always the easier thing to do.



04 Dec 2017 10:11:13
Instead of us being happy and in good moods that we are showing some good form and getting back amongst the top4, we are down in the dumps because Salah has asked his agent to enquire about Madrid possibilies. let's not jump the gun. Im sure agents are sniffing and touting around all the time. It doesn't mean he is going! And if and when he does leave we replace and move on.

Ed I take it this came about after the latest Sharkopod as it wasnt mentioned mate?


{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

1.) 04 Dec 2017 19:39:44
Spot on, Kloppsreds. With all the positivity going on at the club, some will still have something to be terrified about. This issue is a nothing burger as agents and even clubs do this all the time. Good heavens, calm down guys.



03 Dec 2017 10:00:04
Good morning Ed001

Whats your take of Coutinho at the minute in regards to his application and desire? I had expected Klopp to perhaps use him less and play Mane or Ox instead of him but it seems he is very much in Klopps plans and looks to be doing ok on the field. There doesn't appear to be an agreement with Barcelona either so looks like he may well stay until the summer?


{Ed001's Note - difficult one, what he does he mostly does well but he is not doing enough for the team for me. He is not working off the ball and trying to do too much. Great when it comes off, but it is bloody annoying when a quick pass could open up a defence and he takes on another two men instead. Then the next time he gets it he picks a great pass. So I don't know. He was not bad yesterday but it was a lot of show with little substance at times, like the runs Milner makes. Mixed is how I see it. Some good some bad. The problem for me is that Mane is better in the left wing role, so he is not doing enough to hold that place down. In midfield his lack of tracking back at the moment means he can become a liability. Still it is good to have the option.}

1.) 03 Dec 2017 11:22:53
Ed 01 what would you say in your opinion is our strongest current 11. I appreciate the side changes for the opposition. But say we had 1 game to win the league and we just went with the best player for every position.

{Ed001's Note - that is a tough one, the front 3 pick themselves Salah, Mane and Firmino. It is after that it gets difficult! While I am not a fan of the back 3, playing it does mean we can get away with the midfielders we have a bit better. Stops us being caught quite so short when opponents break, so I would go with a back 3 of Gomez, Matip and Lovren, with Moreno and Alexander-Arnold at wing back. Though, thinking about it, that leaves us even weaker in midfield and leaves Coutinho on the bench. Still I would go with it and play Can and Henderson in the centre. There is no perfect formation for our team but I think that best protects the weakness while still allowing the strongest bits to play.}

2.) 03 Dec 2017 11:44:34
Cheers Ed. Interesting thought process there. Who would you have in goal? For me it would be Ward with back 4 of TAA, Gomez, Matip, Moreno, Can, Lallana, Coutinho, Mane, Firminho, Salah. That team would create loads of goals but would also concede loads still probably.

{Ed001's Note - I would go with Ward, sorry forgot to even mention goalkeeper. The worrying thing is that we have so much strength in depth yet both of us are stuck with picking Matip!}

3.) 03 Dec 2017 13:05:18
I would go:
Karius (barely seen ward)
TAA gomez lovren Moreno
Can hendo
Salah firmino mane

I like Robertson but Moreno hasn’t done too much wrong. Give lallana a chance in coutinho’s spot.

4.) 03 Dec 2017 13:29:16
I'd definately play that formation for now but drop henderson for coutinho and let can play deep, take him out of the firing line for now. Then rotate in grujic, oxlade, solanke, robertson and woodburn every other game to keep the side fresh. Also not saying matip is the best defender in the world but id like to see how he would do in a defence not surrounded by total numpties.

5.) 04 Dec 2017 09:11:08
Agree 100% Ed - he's not tracking back enough to play a midfield three (esp with someone like Milner who doesn’t sit back to protect either), but on other hand neither is he as effective on the wing as Mane / Salah.

He's a fantastic player and I was keen on the idea of him dropping deeper but think it needs more of a 4-2-1-3 and Hendo/ Can or Hendo/ Gini setup where has two to give him a bit more cover if we lose the ball.



26 Nov 2017 21:17:49
Good evening ed

Are you aware if there has been progress made by Barcelona to agree a deal for Pipco over the next 4 days as suggested?


{Ed002's Note - there have been discussions in London and they would like it concluded this week before someone leaves. Else they will also be looking to other options as well.}

1.) 26 Nov 2017 22:01:12
Ok mate. Sorry before who leaves?

Same players being discussed as you previously suggested I take it. let's see what develops I guess.

{Ed002's Note - Raul Sanllehi.}

2.) 27 Nov 2017 05:57:47
FSG need to sort out this Coutinho mess ASAP. The guy has become a liability and waste of space this summer, and we could be 100 million pounds better off by selling him to Barca. Gives us money to sign some defenders and a midfielder who knows the definition of a tackle.




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14 Dec 2017 17:40:50
Cheers edd. Youve mentioned a few times a lot of the teams were in Monte Carlo this week mate. Can you advise if anyone from Liverpool was there and in descutions with anyone or asking about possible ins/ outs?


{Ed002's Note - No, it doesn't involve Liverpool. Liverpool had a couple of people in Nyon on Monday but they are not invited to the Tuesday meeting. I don't know if they were in Geneva on Sunday evening but I suspect not.}



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14 Dec 2017 16:23:32
Hi ed. Im not on either Twitter or Facebok mate. Only use your pages for my info. Can you say which teamvhave interest?


{Ed002's Note - Juventus spoke to representatives of Real Madrid whilst many of the major sides were together in Monte Carlo on Tuesday.}



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13 Dec 2017 12:17:14
Ed001. Do YOU think anything significant will happen in January rearding these 2 players or more likely in the Summer?


{Ed001's Note - I certainly don't expect anything to happen in Jan.}



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13 Dec 2017 07:07:25
IB you started this rumour mate lol.




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12 Dec 2017 18:47:32
Ok Ed002. Thanks. You did say there is plenty of interest in him and a deal would be a hard one to get done. Especially if other club ate already making advances. Not likely then by the sounds of it.


{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from a number of clubs.}




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11 Dec 2017 21:13:54
Right I see, I misread it tbh mate. Would be gutted if he left in the summer.




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11 Dec 2017 20:51:44
Can Couts and Salah ed? Hesus I didn't think there was any chance of him leaving in Jan .


{Ed002's Note - Read it again.}



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04 Dec 2017 15:10:33
Ok ed thanks for reply mate. Interesting you say that as I thought for sure that Couts and Can woukd be leaving mate hence why our interest in the likes of Lemar and possibly Draxler.




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04 Dec 2017 12:04:21
It will be Can and Coutinho leaving in Jan imo MK. Although Barcelona are considering there options now that November has passed.

Ed001, who in your opinion is most likely to leave in Jan out of these mentioned please. Appreciate if you would rather not say.


{Ed001's Note - in January? I doubt any will be allowed to go.}



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04 Dec 2017 10:04:20
Im doubting most if not all of the above MK are out of reach for us mate. let's hope Madrid get the first choice winger targets Hazard and Neymar meaning Salah stays with us.