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20 Nov 2017 07:24:24
Eds media reporting Sturridge wants out in Jan. Any truth in this and if so would we look to replace him. What with Origi already on loan and Ings also being linked with a move.

Jayden23

{Ed001's Note - he wants to play or leave in January yes, loan or permanent deal to give himself a chance of making the World Cup squad. I don't expect him to leave, but if both he and Ings were to leave, then a forward would be sought.}


1.) 20 Nov 2017 08:11:28
Again very interesting thanks eds.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}


2.) 20 Nov 2017 08:25:46
I would honestly think he is at the best place to make the England squad, Klopp seems to be managing him time considering that he seems to be getting less injuries, regaining form and scoring. I fear for him that should he get a team that relies on him week in week out he might not even be fit to be incontention come world cup, could be wrong.


3.) 20 Nov 2017 10:24:15
I think Southgate has shown he will pick a youngster over an older guy that isn't playing regular football. Sturridge will struggle for minutes and if he wants to move on we should do right by him.


4.) 20 Nov 2017 11:23:10
Not surprised and can't blame him, he is criminally over-looked and Klopp has made it clear he'd just simply rather not use him.

{Ed001's Note - criminally overlooked? No idea where you get that from. He has not done enough to deserve a place.}


5.) 20 Nov 2017 12:09:18
How is Sturridge criminally overlooked? His direct competition is Firmino who happens to be very important to our attacking play. Sturridge offers very little of what Klopp expects from his No.9.


6.) 20 Nov 2017 12:56:23
Maybe not enough to deserve a starting place, but when Firmino looks dead on his feet he doesn't deserve 20 minutes? Or when our attack has looked completely blunt for 2 games in a row he doesn't even deserve a try? Klopp only turns to Sturridge when he has absolutely no other choice when to me, he's earned regular gametime as a reliable first backup option. To me he's been wasted which has been fine when we've been scoring 3 a game. But we went through a long patch where we struggled badly for goals and for him to barely get a try during that period was criminal and suggests to me that there is nothing sturridge can reasonably do to force his way into Klopps plans - he's just not capable of being the type of forward Klopp wants and there is no situation where Klopp will adapt his game plan to what Sturridge.

{Ed001's Note - he has done nothing to earn that position when Solanke has been playing better than him this season.}


7.) 20 Nov 2017 13:54:50
Sorry but for all his talent he is not worth the salary he claims from LFC for the availability we get from him. He is a massive hypochondriac when it comes to not playing for the slightest knock.

I would let him go as long as adequate cover is in place, Bobby and Solanke won't be enough.

Cut our loses get the wages back and move on.

Newcastle would be a good move for him.


8.) 20 Nov 2017 14:13:09
If Sturridge leaves, can we see Ings as his replacement? Ings is doing pretty well at u23 and is gaining his fitness back.


9.) 20 Nov 2017 14:45:56
this will sound brutal but i was pleased when i read this as his legs gone and although he seems nice enough guy and seems to have a good footballing brain his body won't hold up to constant games and id also rather see the chances he has got this season so far go to solanke whom i have been impressed by and want to see more off.


10.) 20 Nov 2017 18:38:13
Sturridge has given us a lot o goals over the years, and at this stage, with the World Cup comimg, he needs playing time, so maybe its best for all that we let him go, at a good price, so he has some chance of making this World Cup .


11.) 20 Nov 2017 19:51:22
I would think letting him go in January will maximise his value. £25 million if we get lucky and they get desperate.


12.) 20 Nov 2017 20:43:03
What is happening with the comments, or is it only the select few that get shown?

{Ed002's Note - Most of yours get deleted.}


13.) 21 Nov 2017 06:56:45
Ed001 what do you think of Solanke so far?

{Ed001's Note - he has done well but it is early days and we need to see a lot more of him.}


 

 

17 Aug 2017 20:50:44
Seeing reports that Mane and Can are out of this weekends fixture due to knocks. Eds please tell me this is not true.

Jayden23

{Ed001's Note - I haven't heard one way or the other sorry.}


1.) 17 Aug 2017 21:04:20
As long as they're fit for Wednesday. If we can't beat Crystal Palace without them (Huddersfield thrashed them) then we really have problems!


2.) 17 Aug 2017 21:24:28
Huddersfield's result has no baring on how we'll do. Why do fans always go "oh so and so thrashed them so we will"?


3.) 17 Aug 2017 21:27:29
We have a big enough squad to cope. Grujic or Milner in for Can and then Origi, Sturridge or Solanke in for Mané. Still gives us a strong team. If we can't cope without them for a game it doesn't bode well for a season where we could (hopefully) be fighting in four different competitions!


4.) 17 Aug 2017 21:38:25
People tend to forget that Palace has won on the last three visits to Anfield.


5.) 17 Aug 2017 22:04:55
They'll be missing Zaha which is huge for them. I'd back us against anyone in our first home game of the season.


6.) 17 Aug 2017 22:48:14
The way De Boer sets his team up helps us. I think we'll win comfortably. Hope Stuzza starts and gets an early goal, hoping for him to really show up this season.


7.) 17 Aug 2017 23:25:04
If true, Kent in for Mane. Deserves his chance after pre season.


8.) 18 Aug 2017 03:11:08
I'd expect origi and Milner to come in. Already looking thin. I really hope we bring in some more quality. Not 100% convinced we will. If that was the plan it would've happened already wouldn't it? Are we still going to be sat here with mere hours to end of window expecting 3 quality signings?


9.) 18 Aug 2017 07:57:46
CP is our bogey team at home and De Boer will not definitely park the bus a bit cos he will not want to get thrashed like he did last week. It will not be an easy game and also, Benteke feels right at home at Anfield when on the opposing side.


10.) 18 Aug 2017 08:52:55
I don't get that squad is looking thin. Who could we possibly sign to replace Mane when he's injured? Someone of the same quality that's happy to sit on the bench to wait for an injury just isn't going to happen. We have a big enough forward line to juggle things around and still beat most teams.


11.) 18 Aug 2017 13:34:42
Confirmation off somebody would be good as I have mane in my fantasy lol.


12.) 18 Aug 2017 15:57:04
The squad is not thin, it's just not filled with enough quality. Still a lot of youngsters on the bench. We should have that quality that allows some of our first team (naming no names) to start on the bench.


13.) 20 Aug 2017 09:46:13
Those youngsters have been narrowed down over the past few seasons to those with a chance of being good enough. TAA we're seeing that potential with and Gomez was bought for that potential. People seem to think those lads will magically get experience and develop whilst sitting in the stands watching a series mid to late 20s imports play. There are plenty of players out there to buy but personally i'm not convinced those that would significantly improve things are firstly in big supply and secondly available to buy. The club now needs to do a better job with developing with what it has. There isn't a consistently top 4 standard keeper available to buy right now. We saw with Bravos and Hart last season that buying guys from bug clubs etc doesn't work out by default. Same with defenders, how many that will be consistently good enough to make LFC into title challengers are available to buy? Matip, Lovren, Gomez and Klavan may just have to be worked on and the midfield improved to cover across them.

Plus most on here would find something to moan abour. If you talk about Lloris people say the defence makes him look good, if ypu say to go for those defenders apparently they're all crap and no better than what is already here. Most who complain couldn't name genuinely viable targets they know would improve the squad to title winning level. So ultimately it is time for the coaches to be the target here and they do everything they can to sort this. There is no one shot solution out there.


 

 

25 Jul 2017 08:21:33
Eds have you heard anything about Chelsea bidding for VVD. Media reporting they're in for him. Our history of rivalling Chelsea for players is not the best.

Jayden23

{Ed001's Note - they were interested but walked away when Saints quoted them a price, that was prior to all the storm over our move for him. Ed002 has told you all this already.}


1.) 25 Jul 2017 08:29:59
Cheers Ed 01 was just wondering if anything had changed as media are recycling the info again then. Keep up the good work, love the site.

{Ed001's Note - it is best to just ignore the media to be honest. It is all just hearsay and bull in the main.}


2.) 25 Jul 2017 08:33:41
Cheers Ed 01. That's what happens when you're on holiday from work. Too much spare time on my hands. I can't actually wait for season to start and window to close so we can just go about our business on the pitch.

{Ed001's Note - holiday? What's one of those?}


3.) 25 Jul 2017 08:42:53
Bit of a concern re Vvd now as Chelsea have appeared to have an interest. What a complete cock up by lfc in this transfer market.


4.) 25 Jul 2017 08:53:50
Transfer window is still open for another 5 weeks, quit the hysteria mate.

{Ed002's Note - Right now he is still "not for sale". If that changes the prior interest of Arsenal and Chelsea may return.}


5.) 25 Jul 2017 09:11:34
Hardly hysteria mate just fact.
Here's another fact if an it looks very possible we miss out on our two main targets do we go for as all decent players have been snapped up. This season is massive for lfc an yet again we haven't addressed our biggest problem keeper and defence.


6.) 25 Jul 2017 09:22:18
And VVD has previously told Liverpool he'll choose us over Chelsea, I doubt much has changed in that respect.


7.) 25 Jul 2017 09:43:16
Does Rudiger not affects Chelsea's interest ed002?

{Ed002's Note - No Fencey.}


8.) 25 Jul 2017 10:10:03
Hello Eds
Thanks for all the ways you have been engaging us, with banter, answers to questions and general information.
Please explain how transfers work. Not as a whole but as pertaining to getting one's target. You mentioned that once VVD is placed on sale, the interests from Arsenal and Chelsea are still on the table. How would this affect us getting our man seeing he wants us and we are willing to pay the asking price. When would a bidding war come into play?
Apologies for asking so many questions.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool formally withdrew their interest in the player. If they were to change their minds they could approach Southampton, who have the stance thet they do not wish to sell - although the player's position is I would think untenable now.}


 

 

16 Jul 2017 07:53:04
Eds is there any truth do you know in the rumours circulating about Sturridge turning down a big offer from China?

And if true does that mean LFC accepted the offer in the first place?

Jayden23

{Ed001's Note - I don't know.}


1.) 16 Jul 2017 09:42:08
Not many players will be going china this year. Its a world cup year, hopefully we keep stuge fit so he can fire his way back into that starting 11.

{Ed002's Note - The Chinese Transfer Window is now closed.}


2.) 16 Jul 2017 09:51:56
Considering Klopp does not intend to sign a striker this window, letting Sturridge go would be nothing short of suicidal. He is a top class finisher when fit, and it would not make sense to put the goalscoring burden on a 19 year old Solanke and a 21 year old Origi.


3.) 16 Jul 2017 10:45:53
He's as fragile as china.

Goes to pieces when dropped.


4.) 16 Jul 2017 10:45:56
I personally I hope Mr Kopp does sign another striker in this window. Surely Sturridge has has plenty of time to prove himself and since the great Luis Surez left he has been on borrowed time. Sure he is a class player but how long do we have to wait.?
Having seen young Solanke in two preseason friendlies. I think this young boy has a lot of promise but couldn't run the line quiet yet.
We need a solid centre back and a holding midfielder and a world class striker. Love this site.


5.) 16 Jul 2017 13:39:05
It's all Chinese Whispers!


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2017 17:07:20
I don't think Mane was at fault yesterday for not passing it but he was at fault for not hitting the target and scoring it. How many times do players refuse to take the easier option and go for glory themselves. When a player scores no one cares if someone was in a better position. It wasn't long ago we were moaning about the chances Salah was missing. If Mane was doing this on a regular basis then I think he would rightly deserve the flack but I reckon this will make him a better player and his brilliance will be winning matches again.

Jayden23

1.) 11 Dec 2017 18:14:20
If I was Klopp I would be furious with him. Make that pass and everyone calls him a genius for having the courage to rotate in a big game and still getting the win. As it is it didn’t happen, Salah missed an open net with his header, and Lovren needlessly gave the opposition player an opportunity to look for a pen, and now Klopps getting a pelters for things he could in no way shape or form control. That team put out was good enough to win, should of won and should be ashamed that they let down Klopps trust in them. All this said, it happens and we move on. We are on the up and will get better. Bored of pointing out the failings in our team currently as we all know what they are, just hope they get sorted in the next 7-8 months.


2.) 11 Dec 2017 18:14:42
Congrats to Mo salah on his African Player of the Year. Beat Mane into Second place with Naby Keita also placing in the top 5.


3.) 11 Dec 2017 18:45:52
Congrats to Salah.

1. There is a time when you take it and when you pass it to someone who is in a better position and what Mane did was very unintelligent to take that shot.

2. He should stop some theatrics that he did when he was fouled. Yes, he was fouled by Everton player and he received a card for that but the way Mane was turning on the ground, I would have given an yellow for him as well.

Cheers.


4.) 11 Dec 2017 18:51:39
Mane was greedy. He should passed to any of the three players waiting. Maybe if you are 3 or 4 up and the game is out of sight but at 1-0 it was not the time. He should have put the team first before personal glory.


5.) 11 Dec 2017 18:55:49
That could explain why Mane was being selfish as he was priolly trying to win the award by upstaging Salah. Hope all is done now if so and we can move on cos Mane has never been known to be selfish until now at LFC. Do your job and we win. The day that stops happening then we are in trouble and Klopp can't control any of that on the touchline during games.

Jayden, I agree with you on the Mane issue to some extent. In that position, if you don't square it, YOU'D BETTER SCORE cos if you don't, this is what happens and you will get the blame. He put himself in that position and is getting the business as he should cos our front line is great cos of it's unselfish attitude. Cou, Bobbie or Salah would have squared that ball. All in all, we live, learn and move on to WBA which will be another tough nut to crack.


6.) 11 Dec 2017 19:27:24
Gents I'm not saying what he did was right. Personally I believe he should have passed it as well but he took the gamble (as a lot of forwards would have) and it didn't come off. Some of our players are mercifully defended after years of mistakes and below average performaces. Over the last year and a half Mane has been one of if not our best player. Hopefully he's learnt the error of his way.


7.) 12 Dec 2017 08:11:58
Spot on, Jay. Mane has been great for us and his mess-up will never change that fact. Hopefully, he learns from this and we can move on as he is a great player and I would not swap him for anyone else in the PL.


 

 

03 Dec 2017 15:29:47
Liverpool this season so far:
Salah: 17 goals, 2 assists
Firmino: 10 goals, 4 assists
Coutinho: 5 goals, 6 assists
Mane: 5 goals, 4 assists.

Jayden23

{Ed001's Note - you have not included the Champions League qualifiers then I guess as Bobby has 11 and 1 was scored in them. Not sure about the other stats and how they would be affected, just know about Bobby's as I was looking them up earlier to check a post.}


1.) 03 Dec 2017 15:53:51
i wouldn't swap our attacking unit for anybodies. I like aoc in a Liverpool shirt, great little, industrious player with goals in him too. It still scares me when we sit deep and try to defend, asking for trouble. if we had carried on attacking Chelsea I think we would have got the win. Spurs are over rated imo, mainly coz they have a few decent England players but they are now sitting in a more relative position, I don't think arsenal will do enough to make top 4. I think we are now looking at the four teams who qualify for ucl next year. I think Liverpool can make second this year

well played lads.


2.) 03 Dec 2017 16:08:36
As Chris Hughton said yesterday our attacking line up is as good as City’s.
Wouldn’t swap or sell any of the Fab Four.

{Ed002's Note - Even if a couple of them wanted to go.}


3.) 03 Dec 2017 16:14:35
Couple of them ed? Phil and .

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained already Salah has asked his agent to talk to Real Madrid about any interest they might have in them, particularly given they are already planning on brining in two well known high-profile wide players.}


4.) 03 Dec 2017 16:21:24
Can we assume that the Salah to Madrid rumours have some substance behind them Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Salah seems to be keen enough on the idea to have his agent approach them but Real Madid have two high-profile wide targets. He will also have a contract demand which I suspect Real Madrd would be unwilling to match.}


5.) 03 Dec 2017 16:46:27
Not surprised by the Salah to Real link at all. I genuinely thought he wanted to be at the club for the long haul but its so obvious now that all decent players see LFC as no more than a stepping stone to the big 2 in La Liga.
Was really hoping we could keep Salah for a couple of seasons at least considering I read somewhere that he was a LFC fan and Egypt has a huge LFC fan following. Guess it all counts for nothing if the team does not challenge for major honours on a regular basis.


6.) 03 Dec 2017 16:51:24
Salah hasn't even unpacked his suitcase yet he is already looking at his options! Charming.


7.) 03 Dec 2017 16:49:32
Question for Ed002:
Who are Real's two high profile targets for the wide positions? Really hope they get who ever it is they want. Its back to another rebuilding job for Klopp if Salah and Coutinho leave next summer.

{Ed002's Note - Neymar and Hazard.}


8.) 03 Dec 2017 16:59:19
As much as I love ed2, he just made my Sunday evening rubbish. Haha.


9.) 03 Dec 2017 17:15:49
If they get both Neymar and Hazard, I'm not sure how Real are going to fit those two in with Ronaldo, to be honest. Especially as Zidane plays without wide players most of the time.

{Ed002's Note - Bale and Asensio will be making way - two wide players. And the likes of Benzema and Ronaldo will be moving on soon aswell.}


10.) 03 Dec 2017 17:46:07
Ed002 asensio making way? Are Madrid crazy? Would want him in any salah deal (don't want salah to go anywhere by the way) . Think salah will stay anyway cause Madrid will more than likely nab hazard. (hopefully) . Is neymar interested in going to Madrid ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Asensio will not be moving to Liverpool - they have already held discussions with another club about him. The rest of this all belongs on the European pages.}


11.) 03 Dec 2017 17:55:30
If Real will let Ascensio go we should get in the queue for him without doubt

Don’t see Salah going to Madrid if they can get Neymar and Hazard but if they do go for Salah as second choice we will make good money on the deal and we move on

Really like Salah but if it’s just a short time together then so be it.

If Mo doesn’t want to stay longer then we simply move on.

We are LFC and we are a special club and if Mo doesn’t feel that then no hard feelings but maybe he doesn’t know what he is going to miss.


12.) 03 Dec 2017 18:27:08
If this is true about Mo, does it say more about the club than the player? Otherwise why would our new, massively in favour and also leagues top scorer be looking to leave already? The league has only been going 3 months!

Will be gutted if he goes, with him, Can and Couts gone, we aren’t the same team.

{Ed002's Note - It is the player who is having his agent enquire about possibilities in Madrid - that is all. He is certainly not being pushed out by the club.}


13.) 03 Dec 2017 18:52:26
Well then, fingers crossed Real get Neymar and Hazard. That should keep them off nabbing Salah for the next 3-4 seasons considering they will be blowing a considerable portion of their budget on those two players and another expensive forward like Dybala.


14.) 03 Dec 2017 19:14:24
Just when I thought things were going well, I come on here to read this . Sounds like we will be trying to replace Can, Couts and Salah! As well as the defence. what's that horrid word again? Transition?


15.) 03 Dec 2017 19:25:13
Indian buzzer nailed it in one. As long as the club are not challenging for major honours noone will stay long term. I know real Madrid are a huge draw for anyone but this is what really bugs me the posters and even fans of this club saying give karius or ward a chance in goal and I'm only using them as an example. Karius is not good enough and ward I don't care how good he was for Huddersfield last season will never make it as number 1 for a top 6 club in england. People need to seriously wake up to what's going on. De gea proves what a world class keeper does for you. He gets you points and carries the team when needed. Coutinho world class talent, firmino, salah, mane. Do yous honestly believe any of these will end there careers at Liverpool? I hope they do but they will all move on eventually like Alonso reina mascherano Torres Suarez to name a few cause the lure of winning trophies regularly appeals to them because they are winners. The lesser talents mignolet, loven, matips and so on will stay as they won't find a better club than Liverpool. All I keep hearing is transition. Its funny cause we all class Liverpool as a top club but I don't know any other top club that has gone through a nearly 30 year transition. Its getting embarrassing now. How many Chelsea, man united or man city players are leaving for the top 2 in Spain or Italy or Germany. The ones those clubs wanna sell is the answer and that's why they are were they are and we are were we are. And before people start we have spent millions since the start of the premier league so I don't wanna hear that money card nonsense. The difference is they spent well we haven't.


16.) 03 Dec 2017 19:59:13
Great post IR89. Brutally honest.


17.) 03 Dec 2017 21:10:13
but IR89, eventually we have to change the trend or what is even the point of turning up for a match each week? Spurs haven't won anything with their group yet, but Levy makes it so difficult to buy their players that the continuity they have from year to year increases their chances for success. Imagine if we kept Couts, Firmino, Salah Mane for another 3 years, we would actually have the chance to win silverware consistently, rather then shipping them off to Barcelona or Madrid anytime they come sniffing around. The centre backs and goalkeeper certainly need to be improved but keeping the front line intact makes it easier to convince people to come play for us.


18.) 03 Dec 2017 21:18:55
Ronaldo, Costa, Naymar, Zinadine, Figo, Bale, Pogba money talks, Salah in his wildest dreams couldn't have believed how well he would do here, he's put himself in the shop window to all the top teams in the world, just hope we can get a few seasons out of him first, hell if we do well he might even want to stay.
Fingers crossed.


19.) 03 Dec 2017 21:22:48
But nobody assumes harry kane will leave Spurs.
And nobody assumes Deli Ali would go.
But yet everyone assumes Liverpool would sell, because we have in the past, and this is what's wrong with the football club.


20.) 03 Dec 2017 21:46:37
IR89 is right on a lot there. I think FSG see it too and that is why they refused to sell Couthino last summer as they want to change that pattern and let Klopp a team to win the league.


21.) 03 Dec 2017 21:50:03
What’s the hierarchy’s view/ take ( at LFC ) on this Ed002? There’s been a couple articles written in the tabloids regarding Real Madrid’s interest in Salah so they must be aware conversations are being had?

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I didn’t know about the articles but his agent can speak to clubs to ask if they would be interested. I have no idea what the club think of this matter but they will no doubt not want to sell.}


22.) 03 Dec 2017 21:55:35
Fowler, we are NOT a selling club and all the players who have left us of late, made it impossible for us to keep them. They were sold on our terms esp. since FSG came in. You talk about Spurs as and can keep their best players. They can not. Toby wants to leave if they can't pay him what he is worth. Dier was Utd's first choice before they got Matic. Rose is virtually out the door. Alli just changed his agent to get a better move if all goes south at Spurs. Comparing us to Spurs as if they can keep their best players (whereas they are in the same boat as everybody else) makes no sense.

Spurs sold Bale and Modric, two of their best players at the time cos they wanted to go to RM and Spurs could not keep them both. If Kane wants to leave Spurs if RM really want him, he will go and that is the fact. I understand that we have to be able to compete for trophies BUT even at that, if RM come calling, our boys will be keen to look into it. As for Salah, he already said that his dream was to play at Barca, Real and such big clubs since his days at Basel so what Ed is saying is not shocking.


23.) 03 Dec 2017 22:08:48
The usual suspects Ed2, involving the Express, Daily mail and the Evening Standard.

On the flip side, I can understand why RM want Hazard, what a player. I’m lucky enough to have a season ticket on the Kop, I get to witness and watch great talent on the pitxh, not just from and LFC prospective but other teams players too.

I hope we can keep hold of Salah, he’s been a great addition to the team.

{Ed002's Note - Ok, thanks.}


24.) 03 Dec 2017 22:08:58
But if we keep these players and convince them to put the effort in we will have a team that can challenge. Man Utd kept De Gea (as do other top clubs) so why shouldn’t we keep our players? I mean is Southampton can keep VVD then surely we can keep ours? Couts, Salah, Bobby and Mane all signed long term contracts, so if they want to leave? Tough! If they do an Emre Can and run their contract down so be it, but we stand a better chance of winning/ challenging for top honours if we keep and add to our better players roster rather than try to replace them every summer. If they sulk and don’t put the effort in, drop them for another quality player! If we are going to get back to the top we need to have a top club mentality and show players the club is, was and always will be bigger than them and will still be around and supported long after they are pushing up the daisies and forgotten.


25.) 03 Dec 2017 20:29:49
Great post. Exactly the point I was trying to make. Our biggest names don’t want to, and aren’t staying because it appears the club aren’t that interested in challenging for trophies, so why would they stay.

I dare say Klopp won’t be far behind if they let all of those guys leave - they need to show some desire to win things and spend big like the other top teams, if they want to keep our best from wanting to leave.


26.) 04 Dec 2017 04:57:10
Real are utterly stupid if they let Asensio go. He is Spanish, he is the future and a fantastic player that would walk into most teams in Europe. Why would they even entertain the idea of letting him go? To buy more shiny new toys like Hazard and Neymar? And where would these two even play in the same team? Both are left wing players.


27.) 04 Dec 2017 09:13:36
salah had 5 assists

vs maribor
yesterday
vs watford
vs Arsenal
vs huddersfield.


 

 

03 Dec 2017 10:45:38
Eds I see silly season is starting again in the media. Salah to Real and Aubemyang to us in January apparently. What's the silliest rumour everyone has ever heard?

Jayden23

1.) 03 Dec 2017 11:03:04
Simao to Liverpool for about 7 seasons in a row.


2.) 03 Dec 2017 11:15:34
Ken's coming in January.


3.) 03 Dec 2017 11:15:38
Typical media destabilization. LFC is on the rise of late. What does the media do? Stir the pot and cause unrest.


4.) 03 Dec 2017 11:20:28
I really do believe that we will get Simao this time lad's😁.


5.) 03 Dec 2017 11:21:26
Redawn we've had quite a few players we were meant to sign for about 7 seasons. I remember the Simao one well.


6.) 03 Dec 2017 11:31:21
Arda turan 😂.


7.) 03 Dec 2017 11:31:35
Arda turan as well.


8.) 03 Dec 2017 11:44:30
Your being very optimistic BarryinLouth been after him for soooo long😂😂.


9.) 03 Dec 2017 12:05:02
Remember when we were nailed on to sign Honda, for about 4 years.


10.) 03 Dec 2017 12:31:48
Tbf, at least Simao to Liverpool was true once.

"Barton to Liverpool" cropped up a few times. Initially as a replacement when Gerrard was supposed to be going to Chelsea, but resurfaced a couple of times after. I think it was floated as recently as when Kenny was in charge.


11.) 03 Dec 2017 12:37:49
Remember we nearly got Lee bowyer.


12.) 03 Dec 2017 12:38:04
benzema to arsenal every window for about 6 years. complete tripe.


13.) 03 Dec 2017 13:20:52
Charlie Adam to Liverpool, I mean imagine that ha ha. oh wait 😭😭😭.


14.) 03 Dec 2017 13:51:56
I used to have arguments with a Liverpool fan who used to insist that Adam was some sort of cross between McAllister and Alonso and was far better than either Lucas or Henderson.

Yeah. That worked out well for him.


15.) 03 Dec 2017 14:24:57
I wonder how much Salah would be worth now?
We seem to have bought him extremely cheaply, probably tripled in value since the summer.


16.) 03 Dec 2017 14:58:55
At the very least double his value Mikey.

{Ed001's Note - that CIES Football Observatory did an article when we bought him saying that we paid half of what he was worth then. He has to be worth more now.}


17.) 03 Dec 2017 20:51:02
if only we had signed Simao.


 

 

02 Dec 2017 18:46:35
Haha brilliant Ed33.

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27 Nov 2017 19:51:47
With Sturridge starting up top on sat and Salah scoring 1 and almost getting another 2 does that put the argument to bed that we have to have Firminho up front as only his runs create space for Salah and Mane where as a goalscoring striker wouldn't create the space.

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1.) 27 Nov 2017 20:31:25
i think what you meant to say is that firminio should start ahead of sturridge every time i think 100% would agree here.


2.) 27 Nov 2017 21:28:33
If it's between Firminho and Sturridge then I agree 100% Firminho starts. But that wasn't my point.


3.) 28 Nov 2017 02:20:32
Doesn't matter whether Sturridge created space for others or not. He has been min numbingly poor this season and needs to go.


4.) 28 Nov 2017 08:18:29
Studge starting vs Chelsea shows exactly why a normal CF will not work in our system. He kept taking up the spaces that Salah and Ox would normal;ly attack had Firmino been playing. The argument has been over for a long time now. Firmino starts if fit 100%, end of story.


5.) 28 Nov 2017 10:33:05
Br cheers for letting me know the argument has been over for a long time on your say so. It's amazing how all these other front 3 forwards still manage to score goals in teams that win trophies (City, Barca, Psg, Bayern etc) what with them having a world class goalscorer in their team and not Firminho making the runs. Yet it wouldn't work for us.


6.) 28 Nov 2017 14:12:32
jayden i understand which way your going. for me this is just a myth that Salah and Mane can't play with a proper #9 and won't have space for them and that's why we plsy with a false#9. its bs, same bs everyone use to say about not having a dedicated DM in the team. 90% of the poster and Ed has come to realise that our midfield needs a proper DM. this is the same scenario that salah and mane can't play with a proper striker, the sooner Kloop reliases this the better for us. i want us to give Solanke a chance with our wingers and let's see what happens. strudige is way past why even give him time which could be given to someone who is a long term solution.

{Ed001's Note - Do not try and speak for me ever again. You have no idea what I think or thought, so don't make up crap.}


7.) 28 Nov 2017 17:37:17
sorry ed of you feel that way, it is not my intention to speak for you or i know what you think. i respect you and your knowledge for the game.
i did not mean to offend you
sorry again.

{Ed001's Note - ok mate, it is just people read things into statements that are not meant. I did say we shouldn't need a DM and that it is perfectly possible for a good midfield pairing to sort it out between them so it is not necessary, but that did not mean I did not want one. In fact I have been very vocal in my desire in recent years for us to sign one, such as Gary Medel, who I would have loved us to get a long time ago.}


8.) 28 Nov 2017 18:21:11
Crazy, it is not a myth and the stats bear that out. Since Klopp arrived, we have scored near 250 goals in all comps. most of them w/ o a typical CF. These are facts and not opinions. If Sat vs Chelsea was not an example, I don't know what is. Studge lacked movement and mobility to drag the defenders out of position, which would allow space for Mane/ Ox or Salah to run into. This is a very simple concept to understand YET people keep bleating on and on about using a normal CF. Spurs have a normal CF and they have been found out of late as Kane has been well shackled (like Studge was vs Chelsea) vs ulta defensive teams is off the boil and if he does not score, Spurs are in crap. We don't have that prob. when Firmino plays as we have scored 16 goals in the last 4 games.

You say you would like to see Solanke play with wingers. That is just insane. Do you even know that we don't use wingers? Mane and Salah are strikers who play as inside forwards, not as wingers. Our wingers are the FB's who offer width. Again, a simple concept that many are simply unable/ unwilling to grasp. The only striker that would thrive in our system is Sanchez or Suarez, end of story. As for the DM, We have looked at Obiang as per Ed01 so to say that Klopp does not want a DM is again, patently false.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know why you try to thrust your opinions (and thats what they are) down other peoples throats brover?, it seriously compromises your credibility mate, i think you are knowledgeable about the game but you seem to have a problem with other posters when they express their opinion or assessment of set ups or formations, you need to be a bit more magnanimous my friend..


9.) 28 Nov 2017 23:40:32
Ed25, I may come across that way and that may come off wrong as it is not my intention. I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me or airing their opinions. I will try to do better in the future. My problem is when people just give their views and projections and project them as facts or use them to baselessly stick the boot into Klopp where there is no need to. That is what my problem is. Klopp has his flaws BUT to continue to just slam him with baseless stuff is irritating whereas there are several issues he can be criticized for.

For ex., people say that "Klopp wants to outscore the opponents" or "Klopp is stubborn and does not want a DM" or "He was never interested in a CB so he is to blame". All these are patently false as Ed01 does a great job of informing us on what is going on. If someone does not know something, you can ask the Ed's as many of us do. For instance, I did not know that Klopp wanted Obiang until I asked him and he explained the type of DM Klopp wants. Simple.

Ed01 has explained why Klopp plays Firmino up top countless times YET people are still hung up on the CF stuff and just won't let it go where as the facts show that we are scoring goals and have been since Klopp got here so the system works. It becomes tedious reading the same stuff all the time like a broken record. Just being honest, Ed.

{Ed025's Note - honesty is fine brover and your passion is commendable but a bit of tolerance would help, other peoples views are just as valid as yours even if you dont agree mate, all im asking for is to respect other posters views..


10.) 28 Nov 2017 23:45:57
Oh and by the way, Ed25 I appreciate that you think I am knowledgeable about football. I have learnt a lot from this forum with Eds' analysis and tips as well as those from other posters. I also played the game at a decent level and watch a tonne of footie and this, for decades. Thanks again and keep your head up, my Everton fan.

{Ed025's Note - if we can keep things civil brover it makes all the ED,s jobs that little bit easier mate..cheers..


 

 

 

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10 Dec 2017 16:48:00
Milner fan to explain? That would be Klopp mate.

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30 Nov 2017 22:41:36
That's a decent point beef. We seem to have had managers who like to play players out of position. Rodgers with Firminho on the wing and Klopp with Milner at left back. And to make things worse both have even tried putting a non sportsman in Mignolet in goal.

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30 Nov 2017 20:13:11
Didn't Br's useless mess bring in Firminho and Can or was
That the transfer committee and Br gets the credit for the crap ones.

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12 Nov 2017 10:49:17
Corleone because If they were the standard of the keepers named above they would have given Klopp no other choice but to play them and as he's not playing them there would be managers beating down our doors to sign them. This is not me saying their bad keepers but saying they are nowhere near the level of the 4 and I'd bet my mortgage on that.

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12 Nov 2017 09:56:57
Of course we need a keeper. Klopp doesn't want to play Karius or Ward in the premier league. If he did then they would be playing it's as simple as that. It's not to protect Karius as Mignolet gets pelters every week. How important is a keeper to a team that wants to challenge. Well look at De Gea, Courtouis, Cech and Lloris, they are all top class keepers or better and are easily in the top 10 keepers in the world. City had Bravo in net last season and they were a shambles. Look at them now this season after replacing him. As much as I would like Ward and Karius to work it they are nowhere near the standard of the 4 named above. The less said on Mignolet the better.

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17 Dec 2017 12:33:29
Max like I said I like Klopp and as an attacking force on our day we are unrivalled. However Klopps blind faith to Mignolet and some of the defence/ midfield is hurting us. We spent £48 mill on 2 subs for the season when everyone knows we needed a keeper and centre half. Even though we didn't sign them we have Gomez and Karius/ Ward who could have been given games there this season.

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17 Dec 2017 10:31:51
Max where have I said I expected Klopp to walk in and win the league or it was his fault for us not winning the league in 27 years. I clearly said if anyone questioned him and pointed out that our weakness's were there before he came and are still there now. I'm a big fan of Klopps and I believe he is the right man for us but it doesn't mean he cannot be questioned for his decisions. Perhaps you should read comments properly before replying as that will save you a few minutes of your life writing an argument that wasn't even there in the first place.

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17 Dec 2017 09:05:44
Problem is it's not just City that are leaving us behind. We have drawn and lost more games in the league than we have won. We are currently 7th and 7 points off Chelsea and Utd (who we are more than happy to criticise) we are now also behind Arsenal (who we say are a spent force) yet if anyone slightly criticises any of the players (unless it's Mignolet or Milner that's allowed) or question a Klopp decision then they are accused of not being a proper fan and moaners. On our day we can be sensational but seven 1-0 wins are better than one 7-0 win. I think every football fan in the world regardless of their knowledge know our problems, it's our keeper, defence, set piece defending, too many many midfielders unable to play a penetrating pass and our consistency. These have been our weakness's for years including when Klopp took over and those weakness's have not been rectified still.

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{Ed001's Note - you do realise we haven't played this weekend yet right? That our defence has conceded just 4 goals in the last 8 Prem games? But I suppose that doesn't count for you does it? People only see what they want to see when it suits them to see it. Why don't you wait and see before whining about being 7 points behind? We could be 4, 6 or 7 in a few hours and then you can have something reasonable to say.}


 

 

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14 Dec 2017 07:23:07
On a positive note. In the past we would have lost last nights game and same to Newcastle, Everton and Burnley. We've turned defeats into draws. On that not its step forward. Small steps but still forward.

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11 Dec 2017 20:58:45
Another cracking read Ed. I'm a massive fan of Klopp but I think the selection was the key factor in us not winning. We dominated possession and were by far the better team. We know with our keeper and defence we have to score more than 1 goal to win a game. In our squad we have probably the most in form and firing front 4 in world football. Unfortunately 50% of that attacking force was left on the bench. A draw isn't the worst result but with the way Everton set up if the 4 had started Then I honestly believe we would have blown them out of the water by half time. That's my 2 pence worth anyway 👍.

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{Ed001's Note - Firmino is struggling with tiredness, as we have seen a couple of times this season, and Coutinho is not putting the work in off the ball. I fail to see the issue with resting Firmino and leaving Coutinho out in a game that usually requires fight and graft over skill.}