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28 Oct 2016 11:56:17
Ed001, do you know if Sturridge dislikes Klopp or not? Or vice versa, as his face on the sidelines is far from encouraging.

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{Ed001's Note - they get on fine, Studger just wants to play.}

28 Oct 2016 10:43:37
Hi Eds not posted for awhile . I Am curious to Clynes issues what was they is he not settled in or was it something else . always wondered what it was thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - It has all been dealt with, it is not worth the frief of explaining again.}

28 Oct 2016 10:40:40
If we keep possession against palace we should have enough to break them down. Just be patient and clinical when needed. Come on the reds YNWA.

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28 Oct 2016 08:10:54
Few rumours flying around regarding clyne, possibly city or Barcelona bidding for him in Jan? Why would he be able to leave ed? I think he is a great full back. Or is it just BS in the papers 🤔.

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{Ed001's Note - great? He had issues in the summer, we were looking to replace him anyway as he is far from great. Right now he is willing to stay but we are still trying to decide whether TAA is good enough to push him/replace him. The stories about City and Barca are simply them being linked with every possible right back as both need one and are searching for one. Barca have even, idiotically, been linked with Glenn Johnson in the papers.}

28 Oct 2016 09:13:54
I'm already fedup of rumours and its still 2 months from the transfer window, god help you eds.

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28 Oct 2016 09:45:40
Clyne cannot cross the ball and one of the reason we never use the width. Its the same case on the other side well. Clyne is just about ok. Runs around a lot actually not doing anything great If you watch Bellarin you would understand how far Clyne needs an upgrade.
Our average full backs are the reason we play so narrow and through the middle.
I would happily sell hm to City for a large chunk which they will blew it anyway on a RB.

The reality is PL has no good full backs except Bellarin.

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28 Oct 2016 10:12:19
He's been playing well and I don't really have any complaints, but great he is not. I agree if city does come in for him with a big amount its hard to say no, then we can shove TAA into the first team who I believe has so much potential, that lad has really impressed me from what I've seen, if Clyne is to be flogged we need to gradually put TAA in the next couple of months. I'll support Clyne whilst he's here because I honestly think he's been decent, but for the future of Liverpool we do need better. We'll be in the CL next year, he just doesn't cut it for that.

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28 Oct 2016 10:29:02
Lets just hope City and Barcelona get into a bidding war for Clyne. He has been deecnt so far but anything more than 20-25 million and we will be in luck. No need for a replacement either as we have Flanno coming back and Arnold waiting in the wings. Just spend the money on a LB and make Milner an option for RB as well.

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28 Oct 2016 10:34:38
Exactly, TAA has potential. Nowhere near the finished article. We should keep Clyne 100% until the end of the season at least. At the moment he is the best we have.

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28 Oct 2016 11:01:10
Liverpool FC

". I'll support Clyne whilst he's here. " Not sure what people actually mean by this. I have seen this eerywhere. You only support one club whole your life which means you support the players as well. You could always have an opinion on things you see and observe.

Does it mean you would start hating once this player moves elsewhere? What kind of logic is that?

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28 Oct 2016 10:13:39
any idea who we're looking at, Ed001?

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{Ed001's Note - right now we are assessing TAA as I said.}

28 Oct 2016 10:42:22
Jesus ed didn't see this coming mate. biy shocked tbh. do you think Jan is likely or more like in the summer?

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{Ed001's Note - what?}

28 Oct 2016 13:11:45
Ah right, thanks ed, thought we might've been looking at other names as well in case TAA is deemed not ready.

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{Ed001's Note - I expect TAA to be deemed ready to be honest.}

28 Oct 2016 14:27:32
Not at all sweet chin you automatically assumed nonsense as per usual, are you ever happy? Your just full of it. And to answer your question. I wish him the best where ever he ends up. Suddenly I won't start 'hating' lol you should give up lad every post you make you destroy yourself.

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28 Oct 2016 14:35:02
Harry, Clyne has put some great crosses so far this year, and I personally don't think it's a position we need to strengthen. As for your comparison to Bellerin, if you did watch him play, you'd realise he's a better version of Moreno, with the same defensive faults, and naivety, though good going forward admittedly.

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28 Oct 2016 16:07:11
Ed, do you know what the process is to deem a player ready? If there is one at all?

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{Ed001's Note - it will vary. Sometimes there is no process as injuries mean a youngster gets thrown in at the deep end. In a case like this one, it will be taking a look at how he handles himself over the next few weeks, with the media attention surrounding him and being dropped back down to the U23s. They want to see he has the maturity to cope with the ups and downs.}

28 Oct 2016 03:21:33
As far as I am concerned Liverpool do not have a bogey team and I do not fear Benteke, Joel Matip has more than enough to take care of him. We are Liverpool FC and we should fear nobody, there is no team on the planet we can't beat, whether it be Barcelona or Crystal Palace. Under Klopp the fear factor that we had lost under Rodgers is back as evidenced by United parking the bus against us and I see no reason why we should have any doubt in our team, as Klopp said, believers not doubters.

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28 Oct 2016 06:30:54
Palace wouldn't park the bus from the word go. There is still weakness in our team as a whole. Luckily Padrew sin got a clue how to exploit like Jose. With the players at his disposal Palace should be sitting a lot higher in the table. They will score. We need to outscore them.

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28 Oct 2016 08:28:05
How did Jose "exploit our weaknesses"? They defended for their lives for over half the match. 😄.

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28 Oct 2016 10:15:13
They pressed us brilliantly in the first half making us pass the ball sideways and backwards whole first half. We had no shots on goal all first 45mts.
Came out and defended deep in the second half securing a point at Anfield

When teams press us we look vulnerable.

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28 Oct 2016 10:29:13
That's what I like to see, a bit of belief, nice one Lil magician.

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28 Oct 2016 14:24:45
I think Harry has a point re: the pressing against us.

Swansea did it effectively and so did Utd - the key thing is though, they cannot seem to do it for 90 mins. The 2nd half we seem to take over games, so providing we're smart and sensible in possession and movement, teams can press us all they like, they won't be able to keep it up for 90 mins.

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28 Oct 2016 14:48:37
Harry, Utd did absolutely nothing and took advantage of nothing. Why? They didn`t create any chance worth writing home about and had one corner, a lame shot on target and that was it. If by taking advantage of our weakness, you mean that they parked the bus for 90 mins and stopped us from playing (a tactic Fergie would never have done) then I guess that is your opinion. With all their stone age football, we still created the better chances and had Firmino not took a bad touch, we would have won the game. CP don`t press high as that is not who they are. They are a counter attacking team with pace on the flanks. If they press us, they will pay for it, IMO.

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28 Oct 2016 16:19:32
NOt sure what exactly are you saying mate. Pressing doesn't mean having having infinite amount of shots on goal. That's crap. You could press and opposition to dismantle their style of play. When you press a player the player inturns pass it to backwards or sideways in order to keep possession.

UTD had no intention to create anything, All they wanted to make surendran Liverpool doesn't dominate the ball and stop their free flowing pass and movement which hey did pressing our coutinho and Henderson.

Where is it written pressing should result in 15 shots on target?

You need to shed this idea on pressing means win the ball back and go at the opposition.

Mark lallana or coutinho and you could see Hendo passing it back to Lovren or Matip.

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27 Oct 2016 23:46:30
Yes, the Palace game will be a tough test but we need to be a bit more arrogant about these sorts of fixtures.
Crystal Palace's form in 2016 has been pretty dreadful, our away form isn't too shabby, we won there last time and we now have a BETTER squad, a BETTER ethos and, most importantly, a brilliant boss who's more settled-in and who's winning-mentality is kicking in big-time.
If, as fans, we continually dread playing teams whose play reflects their need to survive on drawing against the big clubs with the odd win against their rivals then we'll develop a phobia which League Champions never, ever have.
This is probably what Klopp meant about supporting the team against the Hulls and WBAs in the same way as we always do in Europe and against Everton, Man. Utd etc.
Jurgen's trying to create a particular aura of invincibility and, yes, arrogance, where the squad and supporters and coaches and fringe staff are all united (sorry! ) in the obviously do-able aim of being this country's top-dogs. Our league, at the moment, is there for the taking and I honestly don't see any reason why WE can't be the next Leicester City (who I admire massively) apart from the fact that, by default, they were already conditioned to beat lower league teams as a matter of survival.
If we can win every single game we'll win win everything on offer but if we get wobbly before every game against scrappers we'll fall short because that's a lot of games to be nervous about and our support will have a massive part to play. The boys we are supporting will react more positively to the crowd than the manager once the whistle blows, that's our job. If we sit there worrying about Benteke or Carroll biting us in the backside it'll probably be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Let's get behind the lads whoever the opposition!

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28 Oct 2016 02:52:44
brilliant post, agree 100%, always respect the opponent, never fear them, focus on our strengths and we are a match for anybody.

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28 Oct 2016 07:10:03
Great post.

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28 Oct 2016 10:30:03
Spot on mate.

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28 Oct 2016 13:02:36
Totally agree. Go there brimming with confidence and take the bull by the horns. An early goal for us would make them have to come out, and that's when we're at our best.

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28 Oct 2016 14:06:20
Great post that Pete, nothing more to add except Come on you Mighty Reds!

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28 Oct 2016 14:51:02
Great post! The way you respect your opponent is to prepare thoroughly for them and make sure you execute the game plan perfectly. Klopp doesn`t take games for granted and regardless of the team he puts out, he will expect them to perform to the highest standards and if they don`t, they won`t play again. Roll on, CP.

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27 Oct 2016 18:06:39
I'm more worried about the Palace game than the Utd one.
Palace are totally our bogey team.
I just know Benteke is going to bite us in the arse.
Hopefully we can shut down his service from the wings.
Anyway, Klopp continues to prove me wrong so hopefully he will do so again.

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27 Oct 2016 18:25:46
Yeah it's one of them games it's pretty worrying but going on this season we should do them. should.

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27 Oct 2016 19:27:26
I'm actually confident, we've shown we can handle a bit of Pulisball.

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27 Oct 2016 21:21:04
Palace have some quality players especially on the flanks and have 2 decent striker upfront and a decent midfielder unlike Westbrom. I don't know y people think this would be a walk in the park.

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27 Oct 2016 22:40:27
We are a lot better this year.

Also Palace sold Dwight Gayle to Raffa at Newcastle.

For me he caused us big problems.
Raffa has a gooden there.

Cant understand why a prem club didn't sign him?

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27 Oct 2016 23:20:57
I feel like that's been the case for the last couple of games to be honest, united are our bogey team out of the so called top teams, west brom are another bogey team and so are crystal palace of late, so its back to back bogey teams. I feel like, we are almost due a bad result if the united result isn't deemed a bad one, I won't say we will lose because I don't think palace have enough to score 2 goals against us and I think we will get a goal but I see a draw written all over this. The weird thing is i'm confident, and usually when I start getting confident about results, predicting wins and the way we are playing we start deteriorating.

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27 Oct 2016 23:40:49
I have complete faith in Klopp's ability to prepare the team, why set yourself up for failure? Why are you even considering it?

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28 Oct 2016 04:56:26
we have Matip, let's believe :-) BOOM!

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28 Oct 2016 08:28:55
Why worry? We can outscore anyone.
They will be more worried about us.

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28 Oct 2016 09:48:29

No team sets up for a failure. Most of the managers presist with the winning side. Palace are physical and has pace on the flanks. We play throguh the middle and has never been good aagainst team who uses the width in the past.

Either we will smash them off the park with Padrew deciding to sit back and allow us the ball or we are getting bullied by their pace and long ball.

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28 Oct 2016 15:06:39
A team is a bogey team if you let them. It is the inability of previous managers to adequately prepare and come up with a plan to neutralize the game plans of the lesser teams that have allowed for poor results against the WB`s and CP`s and the like. Klopp is trying to rectify this by preparing adequately for them. CP may have won at Anfield last season but Klopp got his revenge and won at CP with a goal and a man down n outplaying them to the hilt. That is a mental block that is being erased and we now know we can beat them. Same for WB, we should have put 5 past them with Klopp because he had prepared for them and they were soundly beaten (tho the scoreline doesn`t show that) . Klopp is gradually exorcising our demons and after a while, there will be no bogey teams. There will only be teams that we need to beat at a specific time.

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27 Oct 2016 14:47:26
When Benteke left a lot of us made jokes about how we hoped he'd he be gentle with us when we played Palace, that day has come. Theoretically we are very vulnerable to the Palace system, genuine wingers can exploit the space behind our full backs and we know how much trouble crosses cause us. Therefore, and especially as we're away, do we make changes to counter this threat or do we play our standard set up with the expectation that we will score more than we concede?

My gut is keep it the same but if we do drop points hindsight will call us naive.

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27 Oct 2016 15:19:55
Cabaye to Puncheon or Zaha and then lump it to Benteke.
Palace is a decent team with some decent players. This one game is not easy by any stretch, I hope they sit back and allow us all the possession. If they press us, We will concede one goal.

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27 Oct 2016 15:34:16
Just make sure matip keeps a close eye on benteke, we all know he's not going to do anything but stand around in the box anyway.

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27 Oct 2016 15:50:52
I don't see us changing at all tbh. We'll play the same way we've been playing all season. I don't think it suits us to be more defensive, because instead of the crosses into the box being on the counter, they'll be crossing when we're static, and let's be honest, corners highlight our effectiveness on static crosses into the box.

I think the fact they play with width will suit us. They can definitely hurt us, but I don't see Zaha or Townsend as having the defensive nous or concentration to stop us causing damage out wide, with Clyne and Milner doubling up on the fullbacks.

We need to win that midfield battle because they'll be all over us like a rash early on. It's never an easy ground to play at, but can put a few past these for sure.

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27 Oct 2016 17:12:54
Palace need to worry about how we play. I say keep the ethos that has led us to the top of, albeit fledgling, league table.

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27 Oct 2016 17:53:03
Harry, why do you think if they press us we will concede? CP don`t play the press system and they are more of a counter attacking team with pace on the flanks, even at home vs a big team like us. Last year when we played them at their place, we went a goal down and a man down. Pardew instead of taking risks and winning the game, he played conservative and we not only came back, we won and we were the better team with 10 men. What does that say about Pardew? He`s incompetent, that`s what. CP will play counter attacking football and launch it forward at every opportunity to CB or Zaha and Townsend on the flanks. As for those who said Benteke always scored against us. be mindful that he always scored vs a team managed by, you guessed it, BR, a manager who who couldn`t be arsed about defensive football (still getting thumped at Celtic in the CL by the way and conceding for fun) . Now we have Klopp who is improving our defensive standing slowly but surely (as we barly concede free kicks) and Matip has dealt with every single aerial threat he`s been presented with. We`ll be fine, IMO.

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27 Oct 2016 19:37:57

Jose never play pressing game and UTD pressed us while first half. A good manager identifies the weakness in the opposition team. Palace being at home in front of their crowd wouldn't sit back and allow us to dominate the ball.

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27 Oct 2016 19:30:06
Matip has impressed me loads, he looks a real talent. He's handled everything so far and looks unflappable, he's a calming influence on the side and a bit like Hyypia.

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27 Oct 2016 22:47:05
I think the idea is that if we play to our strengths then palace will have too much to deal with and our gegen press style should stop any counter attack well away from our goal.
Palace may play long and hope to score from a corner or a free.

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27 Oct 2016 23:36:12
I have to agree, united game almost resembles the different struggles we face against certain defensive teams. Fist half, they where solid and resolute and pressed us in the middle of the park not allowing us to get any rhythem and if they used the width more and showed more ambition going forward they would have had more chances, possibly even a goal. that's how you expect a crystal palace team to set up. Second half, you effectively saw 10 men behind the ball parking the bus being very stubborn in defence and limiting us to relying on a piece of magic or luck which was saved, even though we had all of the ball.

Basically, palace will set up to try win the game, whereas west brom set up to get a point. So this game is more dangerous but it could go either way, they could overwhelm us and get a goal or two on the counter or a set piece early on and see out the game from there, or they could end up leaving themselves exposed, opening up the pitch for us to exploite them and score back to back goals. It depends on how sharp we are at the beginning of the match, if we play like we have just woken up, it could be a bad result.

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28 Oct 2016 05:33:46
You're all making it very complicated. :-)
We win by keeping the ball. don't give them the ball, don't let them have the ball.
Harry them whenever they"ve got it. Pass and move when we've got it.
Finally score more than they do.

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28 Oct 2016 07:44:16
Exactly redted. Essentially, You've got to hold and give, but do it at the right time. You can be slow or fast, but you must get to the line.
They'll always hit you and hurt you, defend and attack. There's only one way to beat them. Get round the back.

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28 Oct 2016 15:10:00
We shall see, Harry.

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28 Oct 2016 18:06:58
Pass and move its the Liverpool groove.

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27 Oct 2016 14:49:15
What do LFC fans think of Mignolet's comment that he hopes the competition between him and Karius is a fair one. Is he insinuating that Klopp will favour Karius just because he is German?

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27 Oct 2016 15:03:54
My Thoughts are that although Karius might do well in the future we need a strong goal keeper for now.

Vorm didn't do half bad against us, second keeper for Spurs.

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27 Oct 2016 15:20:25
No. He thinks Kaius is just as good as him.

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27 Oct 2016 18:03:36
Nothing to do with being German! He quite clearly stated he hopes it's based on form and performance. Nothing to see here guys.

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27 Oct 2016 20:16:10
Perhaps its because he knows certain fans have already made their mind up about him, and no matter how well he plays these fans will still want Karius in goal instead.

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27 Oct 2016 20:29:35
Right simple way to look at mignolet.

If after 3 years he was rhw solid goalkeeper we need then he wouldn't be getting replaced in the team would he.

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27 Oct 2016 22:56:59
Maybe this is Klopps way of giving Migs a kick up the arse.
From what I saw during the week it's working as I think Migs had his best game for us that I can remember.
If he wins this challenge with Karius and keeps on his toes we may have a top keeper.
It's all down to competition in the squad. No player now is un dropable.
And its working as our start to the season has been great.

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28 Oct 2016 11:48:46
Our best keeper is at Huddersfield.

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28 Oct 2016 12:38:25
Migs was still hopeless with any ball above head height during the week. Amazing how when players get dropped all their past mistakes get conveniently forgotten.
Migs has had every opportunity to prove himself. Karius hasn't. So until Karius has had that opportunity then Migs needs to keep his counsel and work hard in training.

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27 Oct 2016 12:32:59
Is it rude that city are after clyne.

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27 Oct 2016 15:22:25
I was about to post it on the rumor page. Its shockingly funny He is the best defender in the league according to them and they would offer insane money for him. City don't have full backs and they would be in search for atleast 2.

On another note, Their flanks cost £100 mill in Sane and Sterling.

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27 Oct 2016 15:37:21
Depends on what they want to do to him.

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27 Oct 2016 18:18:08
Maybe we can take Aguero in part ex?

Suspect Jurgen may have a fullback replacement in mind already. and we might not need to look too far.

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27 Oct 2016 18:25:16
that same clyne who has completely nothing in his locker? the only good thing i can say about clyne is he knows his limitations and always tries to give the ball to a better player.

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27 Oct 2016 21:19:26
@wiseryan what a load of rubbish

Even when we're top of the league, the player bashing continues.

And yes, it is bashing. Nothing constructive just slagging off the lads.

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27 Oct 2016 21:19:29
Be easy on clyne he's been playin damn well.

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28 Oct 2016 01:58:51
Im happy with clyne, he's just a very limited player when it comes to actually attacking. I would prefer a right back that had atleast some creative spark. another player like milner would do to be honest. if city want to pay silly money for clyne, then take the money and run.

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28 Oct 2016 13:34:36
Think the team as a whole are playing well and winning and everything is hunkey Dorey at the minute. However no one is safe from a bashing on here. Especially after a defeat. Sad really.

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