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23 Mar 2017 15:30:03
Ed1 not liverpool rated but interested to hear your views on buffon - "greatest Keeper ever? of the modern age? or just over rated? i've been having this discussion with a few of my mates who all claim him to be over rated and that the likes of neuer etc is better. just interested to hear your opinion on him, for me i think he's one of the best keepers ever but that could be down to playing in a defensive league etc.

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{Ed001's Note - defo 100% one of the greatest ever, despite having back problems for a large part of his career. A lesser keeper could never have continued at the top level like he has. He is better than Neuer because he does the old school stuff modern keepers don't do - organise the defence. Nowadays it is all organised by coaches before games, Buffon still does it himself and so can react to changes in opposition set ups. A true legend of the game.}

23 Mar 2017 15:45:41
He and Dino Zoff are my two favorite goalkeepers of all time. Closely behind is Lev Yashin and Kahn.

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23 Mar 2017 18:06:21
Buffon is the greatest keeper there has ever been. Bringing up a defensive league is irrelevant, a shot saved is a shot saved.

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23 Mar 2017 13:30:50
Ray parlour. you nugget.

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22 Mar 2017 19:25:50
Ed 1 . In regards to yout earlier comments about academies being a problem. I completely agree. I feel the generation of the majority of players currently is extremely worrying. I've had to come away from coaching myself purely for the reasons you stated previously. Many years ago as a young player we had to work so hard to step up a level but nowadays it gets handed to you. It also stems before academies. Take my local club for instance. There used to be a 1st team, 2nd team and 3rd team. You would sign for the club and work your butt off to get to the 1st team and when you did you were so nervous about it. You would look upto all the experienced players around you and you would be worried that you might be dropped for the next game. Now they have a 1st team and an academy. and these academies are everywhere. They are full of youngsters who play with there mates and they're not worries about playing for the top team. Some of these players have such ability but the attitude is appalling. The generation these days are a nightmare to coach and they often make coaching un-enjoyable. It's a big worry. I've lost my track here now and I'm not sure of my point. Possibly the fact that this goes way deeper through to local football.

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{Ed001's Note - it is a problem, everything is given to people these days, they feel entitled. People should earn what they have, not be given it.}

23 Mar 2017 11:36:29
100% Xabi, young lads want to be footballers now for the money not for playing football. Don't get me wrong money has always been in football difference is If you signed for a club back n the day from cleaning boots doing jobs it made you think and realise what to work towards and you were more thankful and grateful if you got to the first team level.

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23 Mar 2017 12:05:55
Xabi i thin your post is spot on in the most part i don't think the academies are the main problem although there are academies everywhere you look. I visited ajax when young and they took things to another level the way the sweep all under tens that they can off the streets to coach and also instilled discipline and learned them to achieve things on and off the field. Todays generation are spoiled i think in the main because parents always want their kids to get it better and easier than they did and they feel entitled (like arsenal fans today. lol) and don't know how to work hard for something. When i coached kids here they wouldn't believe it when i told them how hard myself and my friends worked to play, like a normal week when i was 15/ 16 would be school, part time job, train for my local youth team and the local irish league team, train for gaa team and three matches a week. I believe if kids had to go through half what we all did in the 80s they wouldn't be the demanding, over demanding brats that some of the kids coming through the academies seem to be today (well most seem to be) . sorry for the story just thought id share.

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23 Mar 2017 12:25:44
Couldn't agree more, this is why I think England in particular have been so poor in recent years with youngsters thinking they have already made it. Look at Wilfried Zaha, rejection from England spurred him on and he's become twice the player he used to be.

Young players have lost sight of what it means to be a footballer and mostly just care about the lifestyle, problem is without a salary cap I don't know what else can be done about it what with social media giving players semi-celebrity status from their teens. It seems clubs are too precious about offending their precious young talents in case they move elsewhere (as is this generation) which in turn has damaged their motivation.

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23 Mar 2017 13:23:48
As much as I agree to the general view, I don't think any parents would wish their kids to struggle and suffer to earn. They will want their kids to get into the best institution.

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23 Mar 2017 14:30:48
Any parent with a backbone knows that their children will have to go through hardships to learn and earn in life, of course they would want that for them, it's the only way they'll survive, to be a wolf amongst wolves you need to be hungry less and less people are hungry nowadays. It's the same problem with English football at the minute, English players and managers aren't hungry enough to evolve and learn abroad etc because everything's nice and comfortable right where they are. Everyone wants the easy way out, that is the English mentality sadly.

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22 Mar 2017 21:16:11
Am I the only one that expected more from Brandt than that? :/.

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22 Mar 2017 22:19:22
Shouldn't expect anything from them games really.

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23 Mar 2017 09:39:54
If you are expecting a lot from players during int'l games especially friendlies that are forever meaningless, then you will be forever disappointed hence, I propose you have NO expectations on player performances during such tedious games.

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23 Mar 2017 13:18:17
On last nights showing we should sign Joe Hart, Delle Alli cannot hit a barn door, and Weigl is worse than Livermore.

So let's not judge anyone on an international friendly!

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22 Mar 2017 20:48:40
Scouting report for JK, Germany-England, first half:
Werner: Nowhere to be seen. Pass.
Brandt: Tried a little, no end product. Doesn't look LFC-material.
Rüdiger: Reminds me of a young Martin Skrtl, but with less sense of position and not as good passing.

But that England chap in no 11 shirt we should grab before Barcelona and Real come calling. Great feet, excellent workrate. MOTM so far.

The grass is not greener on the other side.

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22 Mar 2017 21:09:19
You're basing this all on one half of international football? A friendly that counts for nothing, and that the Germans are notorious for not trying that hard at? No wonder we get fans laying into our players after one bad game.

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22 Mar 2017 21:18:52
I'm glad you spent a lot of time scouting them, 45 minutes is plenty to decide. You're so clever.

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22 Mar 2017 21:19:21
Always thought that about Brandt.
Basically I don't think his signing justifies blocking Ojo/ Wilson.

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22 Mar 2017 21:11:11
Rudiger looks rather lumpen to say the least.

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22 Mar 2017 21:50:21
And I thought Englishmen had a sense of humor and Germans were the square ones.

Fine, boring version then for you: Lallana is bloody good. Has taken several steps under JK.

Werner and Brandt are young lads with potential, but still very inconsistent. Especially Werner looked out of his league- as a debutant a little enthusiasm can be expected.

Even if this is Rüdigers absolute low I truly do not want him in a red shirt. Might look good in the slow Serie A, and with someone telling him what to do, but when England put some pressure on him he struggled badly.

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23 Mar 2017 01:29:01
Chaps . go easy on Andy. This is what banter is all about . At least we talk on here, for any of you that want to know what I am on about pop over to the Man City banter page . I went on there over the weekend to guage the mood of their supporters before the game . Only thing missing was the sound of crickets in the background . Andy was speaking in jest, some of you guys are more sensitive than my missus.

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23 Mar 2017 01:31:44
I've seen a lot of Rudiger. He's already a decent defender, still young and with good potential. I've never actually heard him linked with us (and it's probably not true) but I don't think he'd be a bad signing if there is any substance to it.

Don't judge the guy one appearance in a meaningless game.

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23 Mar 2017 08:22:41
Andy you may need to attach a sarcasm and not being totally serious warning on your posts going fwd.

*50% sarcasm applies to above post
** 90% tongue in cheek
*** a tinge of underlying seriousness can be applied.

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23 Mar 2017 09:46:07
Ruddiger rejected stupid money from Chelsea last summer so good luck with expecting him to sign for us cos the fee would be astronomic. As for Brandt, Ojo is not in his class as Brandt is much further along than him (German int'l, played at the U20 and Rio Olympics) even tho he is only 20 and inconsistent. If we get him, I will support him as he is supremely talented. By the way, if you are judging players based on pathetic, meaningless friendlies then don't be upset if many on here dismiss your player ratings as bogus cos you learn nothing about players in such games.

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22 Mar 2017 19:21:08
It bad I'm more excited to see Brandt play than England? Obviously if he doesn't score a hat trick he is a waste of money and shows FSg lack ambition. unless he signs for Chelsea in that case he is the next messi and shows FSG refuse to invest the money and are just looking for a quick buck.

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22 Mar 2017 19:54:45
I didn't know Ali and lallana play in those positions
For their clubs
But for England it's make do all over again

It's just idiotic.

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22 Mar 2017 18:57:38
ed002 even though we still have 2 months of the season left we are already hearing of players agreeing personal terms on perspective moves for next season, is this just agents sounding out clubs or clubs encouraging interest? what is the normal protocol that avoids accusations of tapping up?

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{Ed002's Note - If a club speaks directly with a player without the permission of his club then that is "tapping up". Agents and clubs meet and talk regularly and clubs will enquire if a player might be interested in a move, what sort of deal he would want etc..

Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak formally to a player's agent and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the club, the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the fee and the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.}

22 Mar 2017 19:15:02
thanks for clearing that up ed002, appreciate it.

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22 Mar 2017 17:26:51
Hi Eds, I know ................

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{Ed002's Note - Random name - try the appropriate page.}

22 Mar 2017 15:28:00
Would like to hear the Eds views on Jan Molbys comments the other day. saying we should drive a minibus to monaco and try and get as many of their players as possible. is there anyone might be good for us or are any marked for big moves? Not a bad idea in my opinion!

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{Ed002's Note - It was a throwaway comment, no more than that. Liverpool looked at Bakayoko but there is no expectation that they will follow that up and the remaining players, for sale or not, do not interest Liverpool.}

22 Mar 2017 13:43:23
I would just like to pay tribute to Ronnie Moran, his contribution to Liverpool fc is incaluable a true LEGEND has passed away but his dna runs right through the football club and he will never be forgotten, thank you for all you did for Liverpool, Ronnie Moran a true gentleman in every sense of the word.

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22 Mar 2017 14:33:52
He was a lovely man, he always took the time to talk to me.

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22 Mar 2017 15:04:14
Part of the fabric of Liverpool FC. We wouldn't be the club we are without Ronnie.

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22 Mar 2017 17:46:48
A great man. Could use more like him.

YNWA Ronnie.

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22 Mar 2017 18:33:01
how fitting that our next match is the derby, I trust the kop will pay a fitting tribute to the great man.

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22 Mar 2017 22:14:26
Thank you Ronnie.


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