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08 Feb 2016 21:16:52
Eds I know you're saying there will be a lot of outs, and everyone has their opinions on who should go, most similar names. Is there any interest of players that the most of us wouldn't want to leave, I know it's few and far between haha.

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{Ed002's Note - Nope.}

08 Feb 2016 21:00:08
Question for you ED002, with phrases like "sceptic fans" and "worse fans by a mile" etc or comments about flat caps and rattles, why do you bother to answer questions or edit on the Liverpool pages? You clearly despise Liverpool fans so I'm just failing to understand why you would waste your time on people you don't like? Cheers!

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{Ed002's Note - I answer questions on the Liverpool page regarding transfers and general questions about the game. I certainly don't despise the fans I am simply being honest with my views. You come here simply to gather fodder to support the naive and child-like causes of the Spirit of Shankly - a group that seems determined to do nothing but damage the club - and oust the owners and the management. You will, no doubt, yet again get your way throwing the club in to further years of turmoil as you all strive toward the ultimate goal naive and child-like goal of club ownership (and the resultant complete destruction). If the folks really understood what the aim is I am sure they would see quite how septic some of the "fans" are.}

08 Feb 2016 20:56:59
A question for ed002 if you have the time. I know you've mentioned about the European league, which as of yet doesn't effect us. But, do you see that football will eventually implode with the ever increasing wages/ transfer fees? Or will the landscape change entirely with the European super clubs breaking away. I. e. All the money going into that rather than the teams left behind? Any information would be greatly appreciated.


Side note, will we ever get profiles of the eds? Be nice to know how you all get this mountain of knowledge.

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{Ed002's Note - The big money will go with the breakaway. The restructuring of leagues will level out transfer fees and wages at the lower tiers.}

08 Feb 2016 20:15:27
Just a quick post on the prices of the tickets, me and my family are what's regarded by some as day trippers or tourists going to see a match, I live in Ireland and don't get to matches as often as I would like due mainly to the fortune it costs to get to a match, took my son to anfield last Feb to see the city match and we had an absolute ball but we could have had a week in Spain for what it cost with the Euro - sterling exchange rate, I work in an ordinary job myself and it took ages to save for it and had to pay over the odds for tickets but we just didn't have the choice, they where by the way worth every penny, a good majority of the people around me where in the same boat and would have paid what was asked just to be there, people will always pay the money to be at anfield regardless of the cost.

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08 Feb 2016 20:29:36
And that's the reason why the prices have gone up.
Like it or not but it's simple supply and demand.
The club know they can fill the stadium pretty much despite the price of a ticket.
The owners would rather have a couple of million extra a year than care what the average fan (customer) wants.

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{Ed001's Note - but they do not know any such thing. It was the reason they had to fire Rodgers, the seats were empty.}

08 Feb 2016 21:38:45
To be fair to ed001 there, I stopped going towards the end of BR time at the club.
So there was probably more.

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08 Feb 2016 19:17:10
I think the SoS group need to read up on the history. They are taking 'pieces' of what is known and remembered and putting together into an ideology. i think the way forward is balance between need for market forces and needs of the fans. the holy trinity might be a romantic idea, but it does actually make practical sense if we get it right.

BTW Shankly himself broke the club transfer record several times in his first season. His first record signing was an expensive flop. He also bought Ray Clemence, Yeats and blended with Callie and Smith. blend and balance.

It's always been a business but one that has to exist wihhinh the community and identify with it. We are a Global Powerhouse but we do sit on a genetic bed of footballers.

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08 Feb 2016 20:31:08
Good post lad.

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08 Feb 2016 18:34:47
I have backed this protest 100%, and I still back the owners too.

In fairness, they are still learning, but at times of desperation and frustration, then certain people or establishments must feel the wrath of supporters.

I know many Utd supporters who felt this anguish much earlier than ourselves.

What did they do?

They spewed their tickets and created a spin-off club.

On principle though, should it ever have come to that?

No!

And that is why we should express our frustrations in the only way we see as an effective protest, otherwise, they will simply ignore us, only for the season ticket of the loyal veterans to be swallowed up by some rich kid desperate to be part of something they will never fundamentally understand.

Harsh reality but true.

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08 Feb 2016 20:24:05
But Football has changed. Gone are the days were players had to try pass the ball on pitch filled with mud.

Money has taken over the sport. The future generation of fans will not be those who wear a kit that is 30 years old. Unfortunately you have to move forward with the times otherwise you will be caught up in the past which majority of LFC fans still find themselves in which is quite sad.

FSG are not going to bend over for the fans. They do not have to whether we as fans like it or not. The day they sell the club will be the day we look back and see the good they actually did for this club by trying to create a sustainable future. All fair and well the ticket prices have pissed of many of those walked out at 77 minutes. It will be a case of either of either wasting your money by protesting and walking out at 77 minutes or having someone else take your seat who will be willing to cough up the money. Paying £77 and then walking out when the match is not even completed. You are just wasting your money anyway!

There is no way the situation is going to change unless the club has to worry about filling each and every seat at Anfield!

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{Ed001's Note - they do have to, whatever crap may be spouted about the tickets always being sold, the truth is that they won't always be sold. The ground was half empty while Bodgers was in charge, that is why they acted.}

08 Feb 2016 20:39:30
Klopp might change that though mate. We all want the same thing, every fan, and that is to see this club lifting trophy after trophy like we did back in the days.

Going to take time to sort out this mess but even with a half filled stadium I do not think it will make FSG bend over. Having a half filled stadium hurts LFC, not FSG.

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{Ed001's Note - how can anyone think that when they sacked Rodgers due to the stands emptying, not because of how crap he was?}

08 Feb 2016 20:50:54
But Rodgers is now in the past. Seeing a club win trophies attracts eyes. Appointing Klopp may well change things when you have to pay £77 to see your club at the top again.

FSG had no other option but to get rid of Rodgers as this club was going nowhere under his management.

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{Ed001's Note - but you are missing the point, it shows how easily they could see crowds fall off if they are not careful. It is utter nonsense that the stands will be filled no matter what.}

08 Feb 2016 21:05:16
True but as the saying goes, you can take a horse to the water but cannot make it drink.

Once (and hopefully when) LFC start winning silverware again, seats will be filled which is surely what FSG are aiming at irrespective of ticket prices.

FSG will go to bed tonight, in fact every night hoping that their investment pays off. They are not going to sit and worry about individuals who are not willing to pay £77 to attend a match at Anfield. That is just the reality of the situation. You either pay it or watch the match on the tele at home or in the pub.

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{Ed001's Note - why are you even bothering to comment? You are just ignoring facts, like that FSG have already admitted they are going to sit down and revisit the pricing for next season. So you are either ignorant, or just refusing to accept the truth that Anfield is not going to fill if they upset the fans. There are simply not enough day trippers, no matter how much some Liverpool fans kid on about the size of following, the money is not there for enough to come over every week to fill the ground. FSG know it. They have to keep a core of regular matchgoers or face seeing the stands look like a Man City home game.}

08 Feb 2016 18:32:47
Ed just about to get stuck in to"Men in White coats" and have ordered David Fairclough and Geoff Twentyman two books. Can't wait to read them all.

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{Ed001's Note - the one by Geoff Twentyman's son is well worth a read, not exciting but extremely informative.}

08 Feb 2016 18:51:59
Thanks Ed I'll look out for it. Ill Google it now.

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{Ed001's Note - it might be the one you have ordered, secret diary of a scout or something it is called.}

08 Feb 2016 19:01:04
Yeah that's the one I ordered Ed, cheers mate.

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{Ed001's Note - very interesting that one. Much more informative than any autobiography.}

08 Feb 2016 19:20:40
We should all get together soon with our smoking jackets on and do a book review. Waro or EMS could chair it.

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08 Feb 2016 20:51:39
Just to throw my two pennies worth in Barry mate but any book by Michael Calvin are also a great read, especially the one about football scouts called "The Nowhere Men" and honestly a better read than Simon Hughes "Secret Dairy Of A Liverpool Scout", nevertheless still worth getting though.

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{Ed001's Note - the difference is, the secret diary has real info, Michael Calvin's books are stories of the info. That may make them more entertaining, but that is all it is.}

08 Feb 2016 21:15:29
I must say its a great read. Also look at an epic swindle another good read

Crooky.

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Afobe Fears Arsenal Title Collapse, Klopp Back At Work And Aston Villa Have Nothing To Lose Plus More

08 Feb 2016 17:58:18
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Afobe Fears Arsenal Title Collapse, Klopp Back At Work And Aston Villa Have Nothing To Lose Plus More

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08 Feb 2016 17:31:33
Lets hope with Sturridge back he can stay clear of injury. I no its a big ask but its good the wsy Klopp has managed him and made him train hard with ten days on the spin act. Hopefully he will be fit for rest if season and bang the goals in we miss.

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08 Feb 2016 16:56:37
If I could have a yarn in Klippertys ear I would tell him to sign Mahrez from Leicester, I think every Liverpool fan would be happy with him.

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08 Feb 2016 17:41:07
Him and kante are class acts.

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08 Feb 2016 18:16:15
And why not Reus?

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08 Feb 2016 18:36:28
I don't think we need new players until we have a settled team set up. We need to get our current crop organised better, we need to improve our tactical approach.

Bringing new players into a failing team rarely works for more than a few games.

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08 Feb 2016 19:55:35
Ron, it's not like we are going to be getting players until the summer. Nothing much will change from now until then, unless we wait 2 or 3 seasons we won't improve under the current crop. It's no mystery that we need a new spine to the team. A new goalkeeper, centre back, midfielder and striker are necessities in the summer. With a lot of players leaving.

I understand we need stability, but in order to advance we need better quality players who have played for big clubs in big occasions. No use getting the small fishes anymore because they don't have the mentality to step up, that's why we have failed so badly. If recruitment improves then I'd rather risk stability after 2-3 seasons. Some of this current crop couldn't cut it at other midtable teams. No use shinning turds.

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08 Feb 2016 22:10:59
Ron, we don't need new players?
We've got no keeper. No goal scorer. the worst defence in the league. Nobody can cross the ball.
We've got James Milner on massive wages.
And Jordan Henderson is the captain?
Mate we need players.

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