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22 Apr 2018 07:05:38
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22 Apr 2018 07:05:38
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Review Of The Day 22nd April 2018

22 Apr 2018 07:05:36
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 22nd April 2018

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22 Apr 2018 06:45:23
We have had 3 penalties this season with 6 against us.
I am at the point where I honestly think there is an agenda against us. We don’t get penalties and we get them given against us for nothing.

We would be in the champions league again now and probably in second place. How the foul on Danny Ings in the box yesterday isn’t given is beyond me.

The pen that spurs got in the dying seconds. The pen that Everton got at Anfield.

That’s 6 points alone.

The stats just don’t make sense, given that we usually have the lions share of possession and that we spend probably double the amount of time in the opposing teams penalty area then you would think that on average we would get at least an equal amount of penalties? We have been given half.

In years to come it will come out about the agenda against Liverpool. I’m utterly convinced. They don’t want us up there, with the vast amounts of money flying around for champions league qualification - I think that they are being bribed and they want certain teams in those four spots. .

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{Ed0333's Note - Oh MrPlums you have put a smile on my face nae I’m cracking up. I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next man but i don’t think there’s any legs to your sentiments. Besides I have it on good authority the referee of today’s game was at dinner with a notorious Indian bookmaker/matchfixer in Manchester last week and they were discussing baby names for Meghan Markle and the odds on goals scored by the home team in the last 2minutes of matches.

Premier League Match Preview Sunday 22nd April 2018

22 Apr 2018 06:41:47
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Sunday 22nd April 2018

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22 Apr 2018 04:40:33
I know almost everyone here loves Klopp and I really love him too but his post match comments after the west brom game were very unclassy and disgusting. He acted like a bh being all whiny. Complaining about the dry pitch, the penalty incident and yet we were leading 2:0 till the last quarter of play time. I am sure if we had maintained the lead he wouldn't have those complaints. What disgusted me most was his disrespect for West brom by saying that they will be relegated yet mathematically they still have a chance to survive.
I am sure if it was a person like Mourinho who had made those comments this place would be filled with criticism but since it is our Klopp it's all good. Nothing wrong.
Anyway for me i hope he reflects and learn from it.

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{Ed001's Note - he was complaining about the dry pitch at half time, when we were leading. It is a valid concern because dry pitches are harder on wear and tear of joints, which increases risk of injury. It is not just because it makes it easier to play, it is safer for players.}

22 Apr 2018 05:17:28
As much as Klopp may have stated facts with regards to the state of the pitch, it's better if he kept his mouth shut. The English media are leeches that will use this against him time and again. Just say LFC deserved the 3 points and move on. West Bromwich are going down anyways, why take a dig at them now?

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{Ed001's Note - he has complained a few times about the dry pitches being used and will continue to do so until there is some action taken. Like I said, there is good reason to do so. As for the dig, I didn't see a problem with pointing out they needed a win yet never even tried to get one. I am sure you lot are glad because it gives you yet another excuse to whine about Klopp and it has been a while since you had one.}

22 Apr 2018 05:17:55
Thank you ed001 about the dry pitch enlightenment. But again he also complains about the penalty incident like that incident would have saved us. It is not the first time a team has caught up with us from goals behind. He would have just admitted the West Brom wanted it more than us and turn the focus to Tuesday.

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{Ed001's Note - well it would have saved us. Don't be soft. You trying to tell me they would have come back from 3 down? West Brom never even tried to go for anything or want anything other than to foul and kick us for most of the game. It was only after the ref was giving them all the help he could that they thought they had a chance and went for it. What has happened in previous matches is irrelevant and has no bearing on this. The situation was peculiar yesterday and has no relation on what happened in the past.}

22 Apr 2018 06:13:26
Is he wrong? A number of times their dry pitch gave them an unfair advantage, with the ball not bouncing as expected and it played its role in our disjointed performance. West Brom and Stoke have been doing things like this for years, combined with kicking and assaulting players from other teams. They've contributed nothing but injuries to players from other teams and woeful football for the entire duration they've been in the League, good riddance. Klopp was rightly pissed at their cheating. As for the penalty, why shouldn't he think it played its part? Not even the referee could have pulled them back from 3-0 down, instead the game ends 2-2, it's no wonder no English referees are going to the world cup.

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22 Apr 2018 06:58:01
He shouldn’t have said WBA are in the championship and a point is useless to them.
It wasnt useless, they can still survive.
WBA took 4 points in 2 games against Man U and LFC, they are entitled to be pleased about that.

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{Ed001's Note - no he shouldn't have said it, but he is right, they need 3 points to have any chance.}

22 Apr 2018 07:01:40
One minute Klopp is the best thing since sliced bread, next he's getting ridiculed, my word.

'his post match comments after the west brom game were very unclassy and disgusting'

disgusting, really? come off it mate. That's a little too far.

Agreed Ed/ Lemuel.

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21 Apr 2018 23:27:01
Ron, I saw your post about Karius down the page, and while I don’t think he was brilliant, I think “Hides under pressure” is a bit unfair, certainly not after this game. Yes he struggled a bit under the high ball, but he also made a couple of important stops against rushing out against Rondon. For the first goal, he makes a good stop but needs help from the defenders for the rebound. For the second, yes he is stuck in no-mans land, but if he stays on his line, the header will beat him anyway. The fault there lies with the defenders for allowing a free header, and the quality of the ball in the first place. It has to be said as well, that almost any keeper in the prem would struggle with the physicality of West Brom today, they played some great balls into the box. For sure there’s a lot he can improve on, but I don’t think Karius was particularly poor today.

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21 Apr 2018 23:44:35
I repeat - I’m not just talking about the goals.
He was all over the place today when the high balls came in. He didn’t look like he wanted to claim the ball like a world class keeper would.
I don’t dislike the lad and he’s had a good 2018, but he has an obvious weakness that isn’t going away.

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22 Apr 2018 00:16:02
Shropshire Red, Any cross into the box he doesn’t know whether to come or stay. Usually he is in no mans land but if he comes he flaps at it.

If you can’t deal with teams like West Brom in the Premiership you are not the answer.

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22 Apr 2018 00:27:59
redmersey yet he dealt with City didn't he? and others.

I agree with you Ron he does have weaknesses but I do think he'll improve in time, he's only had half a season I think we should judge him when it comes to this time next season, I genuinely believe he will shock many, in a good way. But again, I do understand what your saying Ron and I'm not saying your wrong mate, I just think he needs a little more time to adapt properly. He basically got thrown into the deep end suddenly and in a league like this that's not easy, he's playing at the top level now and overall he's done very well.

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22 Apr 2018 01:49:17
1 - he isn't world class yet. so obviously isn't going to display what you want to see. yet.

2 - thought he showed a good attitude to come out for the ball and claimed more than he didn't. 2nd goal not sure what he was upto, but as has been the case with many goals we've conceded particularly earlier in the season, there are a litany of errors that compile altogether at the same time.

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22 Apr 2018 04:28:51
Every GK has certain weaknesses, even DDG. Ederson and DDG are known to struggle against high balls as well. U can't keep nitpicking. There is not a perfect GK in the world right now.

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22 Apr 2018 05:59:31
Hides is a ridiculously unfair statement about Karius, he was decisive in coming off his line to good effect a couple of times and did try to come for ball, there isn't much you can do if your centre backs hang you out to dry.

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21 Apr 2018 19:45:45
This is a pretty poor result in that we failed to put another nail in Chelsea's top four hopes, and we've now given them a glimmer of hope in maybe catching us.
But I also think there is an unusual silver lining in this result.
I suspect that if we'd cruised to a 3-0 win today the media and fans would've started with the all-conquering Liverpool hype, and I think we'd have cruised on into Tuesday's game expecting a win, and being a bit complacent- which is usually disastrous for this team.
After todays disappointment Klopp and the players will be angry and upset, and I think it might give them a bit of extra sharpness and determination on Tuesday.
They will need every bit of focus and determination to stop Roma getting am away goal, and yes it's a small consolation, but this result today will stop any complacency creeping into Tuesday's game.
At the moment Bayern and Real are weaker than they have been for several years, and we may not get this good a chance of reaching a CL final and winning for another five years, maybe more.
A top performance on Tuesday holds the key to getting into a winnable CL final- and at least now we will come out hungry and focused.
Not much consolation I admit, but it's something.

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21 Apr 2018 20:34:08
I agree mate I think we'll go into Tuesdays game with much more concentration and determination then ever! today's result might be a blessing in disguise, hopefully!

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21 Apr 2018 21:31:59
I agree also. Happy birthday Salah.

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21 Apr 2018 21:47:20
Thank you Acered.

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21 Apr 2018 21:51:23
I agree also, probably did us the world of good, you need a good wake up call every now and then. Over the last few weeks I’d say we’ve felt invincible. Plus considering how Roma got past Barcelona, it’s a shock we needed now. Let s also not forget we didn’t throw away all the points which in previous seasons we would have. Bring on Tuesday.

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21 Apr 2018 22:46:08
Also worth remembering that we changed three quarters of the defence, and a third of the midfield and attack. Nearly everybody wanted Klopp to rest players and this is the kind of result you get when that happens. Personally I think momentum is more important than giving people a rest, but Klopp has done enough for me to trust.

Very pleased for Ings and Salah and some pretty momentous goals for very contrasting reasons!

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21 Apr 2018 22:50:11
Worryingly Karius was all over the place today and I’m not just referring to the goals.

When the pressure is on, he hides. He’s had a good few weeks but the fact remains when teams target him on crosses he can’t cope.

Hope Roma weren’t watching.

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21 Apr 2018 22:56:23
Good point Mush!
It highlighted our weaknesses which can now be focused on.

I also don't like it when Klopp makes substitutions at the end of the game for the sake of it (Lovren today), usually also changing formation. We often lose our rhythm and end up weaker. Hopefully he doesn't do this on Tuesday either.

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21 Apr 2018 23:08:05
Not a great result but SHOULDNT be detrimental to our top 4 hopes. And the most important thing is the squad should be fully fit with no injures for Tuesday.

Obviously disappointed but we all know some of the players in our 2nd string and on our bench just aren’t good enough.

Our core 11 can beat ANYONE but outside that things look shaky. something for JK to fix this summer so we can challenge on multiple fronts! 💪🏼

Step 1 get Navy Keith in 👍🏼.

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21 Apr 2018 23:25:34
It kind of shows that our squad isn’t good enough.
Our first 11 is a match for any team in the world, take a few regulars out though and we can struggle.
To win leagues we need a better squad.

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21 Apr 2018 23:34:12
It really is a worry that Klopp brings on Lovren as if that would help us see out the game, despite the fact that everytime we try 3 CBs we look dreadful.

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21 Apr 2018 23:49:09
Well it also shows the quality of depth in our team. First 11 is good but that’s all!

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22 Apr 2018 01:50:06
really don't think these games are connected and fans draw conclusions that aren't there. whatever the result today, the lads will be coming out pumped to the brim on tuesday night.

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22 Apr 2018 06:36:50
More than anything else, I think today showed that our squad lacks depth. I do think the red helped them get back into the game and had right decisions been made it would of been 3-0 or 3-1 as Klopp said, however, the Defense is still is dire need of improvement as is the midfield.

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21 Apr 2018 18:37:29
What do people make of how Gomez and his lack of concentration again today

He is so highly regarded on this page

He has cause at least 5 goals this season if top my head just frustrating

I hope he proves me wrong but I don't see it at the moment.

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21 Apr 2018 18:57:25
The kid is young and needs time to progress but if things don't start getting better next season there is the sad possibility we will have a Titus Bramble on our hands.
Let's hope he kicks on next season and shows us his true quality.

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21 Apr 2018 19:14:50
It is something he needs to work on and remove from his game - the regularity of the lapses are a huge concern - perhaps he needs a season on loan getting regular football at centre back to aid his development? I don't think he ever looks entirely comfortable in the fullback position.

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21 Apr 2018 19:36:18
He's very casual with his defending. It has become a regular occurrence with him. It drives me nuts.

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21 Apr 2018 20:34:31
Thought both full backstreet awful today an caused a lot of unrest at the back. Having said that it's a game we should of definitely won.

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21 Apr 2018 20:43:48
I think some of you are forgetting he is only 20 plus he's only just come back from injury. It takes time for some players to develop how WE want them to develop, he's got it there, sure he makes mistakes but he's still very young, mistakes will help him overall.

Gomez has got massive potential and needs support not ridiculing. Sending him out on loan is not a good idea imo, we need to persevere with him, I think it'll be worth it in the long run.

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21 Apr 2018 20:50:07
Perhaps people on this page need to stop over hyping players! I saw nothing of him to suggest he could play at CB. Klopp might need to buy a defender in the summer! I have no confidence in Gomez for the next season. He is positionally awful. Another Solanke in the making!

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21 Apr 2018 21:07:54
Another solanke? WTF are you smoking? Different position for a start and how are they even one bit similar, except age.

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21 Apr 2018 21:12:52
At this stage I just think we should just go ahead and release every player we have under the age of 21 on a free, since "fans" aren't willing to give them a chance.

We're raving about Wilson, but based on what we're saying about Gomez and Solanke, not to mention Alexander-Arnold before the City match, we'll probably end up tearing strips off him and calling him a Championship player if he has a bad game here and there (as tends to happen with young players, it's why 17 year olds usually don't go straight into the first team) . Why not just save some time and rip up his contract now so he can go somewhere where the fans might give him a chance? Ditto Woodburn, Ojo and Brewster.

Gomez made a mistake today and I have no problem with people discussing it, but comparing him to Bramble and saying there's nothing about him that suggests he can play CB (but then again, that's probably just Harry trying to be a contrarian) is just bashing for the sake of bashing.

He's generally had a good season, and it was only 3 weeks ago we were practically quaking over not having him available for the Man City match. But that's all undone over 90 minutes today and he can't play, is it lads? Not even 90 minutes actually. About 10, because he I thought he played well for most of the game, practically all their attacks were coming down the other side.

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21 Apr 2018 21:30:09
Another Titus Bramble? Now that’s extremely harsh.

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21 Apr 2018 21:34:00
It's quite sad how easy people will hang a young player, who has had his fair share of great games for us, out to dry.

Players learn through experience, they do not stay with the same ability forever!

If Salah has a dip next season, is he going to be the next one we call to sell? (I don't expect fans to go to this level, but I recall some posters mentioning "Mane was a one season wonder" after his slight dip at the start of the season)

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21 Apr 2018 21:44:24
something red👏👏👏👏 great post.

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21 Apr 2018 21:52:43
This is crazy. Yes Gomez and TAA have made several mistakes over the season which have directly led to goals but if Clyne had not been injured he'd have made plenty more. Plus the difference is Gomez and TAA will learn from those and go on to be fantastic players for us.

Both players are moving in the right direction and it'll take many more mistakes until they get there.

Carra was the same. I couldn't believe how he got in the team in his early days but I was proved very, very wrong.

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21 Apr 2018 22:55:17
Something Red 🙌🏼

Honestly I think some posters shouldn’t be able to post until the day after a game lol to let them cool down a bit and gather their few sensible thoughts together. we all know who they are 🤷🏻‍♂️😂.

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21 Apr 2018 23:34:23
It's not a crazy question when as player falls asleep very often age doesn't matter with that

If he is lfcs future centre half he needs to up his game and effort stop been casual and focus more or he isn't good enough he has a opportunity of a life time and needs to up his game a lot and make klopp think he isn't good enough or we will end up with another centre half coming in and taken his place

So buck up and work hard.

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21 Apr 2018 23:37:20
People forget some mistakes are costly these days. 2 points dropped could cost a team a place in next season CL. Don’t compare the situation from 10 years ago! If Harry Wilson is sent out in loan why not Gomez? We should have purchased a RB last summer and let Gomez go out for a loan like Christiansen did at Chelsea!

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22 Apr 2018 01:50:59
first start back wasn't it? he is going to make mistakes, he is a kid. hope he keeps improving his game year on year.

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21 Apr 2018 18:14:09
How much does a 21 year old in the championship with 7 goals and 5 assists in 11 go for nowadays? In all seriousness I'd give him another full season with Hull and hope he can make the jump, he could be a good player if he gets regular minutes.

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21 Apr 2018 18:32:21
Wilson is a seriously talented lad. He’s really taken his chance brilliantly and has to have put himself in the managers plans for next season.

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21 Apr 2018 18:56:52
What can you say about the guy. He's been scoring at a rate of almost 1 a game for the last few years at u23 level. Goes to a poor Hull side in a competitive and physical championship and just carries on. He's ready for senior football and I hope he gets a loan to Premier league side next year.

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21 Apr 2018 17:27:18
Apologies Ed1, I couldn't get that hat trick mate!

Not the result we wanted that is it, but we got a point it's better then nothing. Plus one positive I am thinking about is we have Roma next, I think after today's result we'll want to go out there and get a real result to make things right so bring them on! Least we don't have to wait another week to watch us play again :)

Results like that today, they happen, that's football, we move on! top 4 is still ours.

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{Ed001's Note - so long as you had a good bday mate, that is the important thing.}

21 Apr 2018 17:41:17
I did thanks Ed mate, been a quiet one but nice and chilled :)

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{Ed001's Note - and no injury?}

21 Apr 2018 20:31:16
No, thank god mate.

I'm saving the hat trick for Tuesday ;) hope you've had a good day Ed mate.

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{Ed001's Note - good thinking. My day would have been better if we hadn't let a 2 goal lead slip.}

21 Apr 2018 20:53:00
I know mate it's frustrating, to say the least. It really winds me up I have to admit, it's like we turn off at the back when we're a couple/ few up which is concerning yet other games we'll carry on and make sure we get the win, I think we underestimated them, we shouldn't underestimate any time we play, no matter who it is.

Don't get me wrong I'm glad we got the point, every little counts but we should've got the 3 points today. Stoke/ Chelsea are must win games for me, we need to show them who's boss like we know we can! But Let's get Roma dealt with first.

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Nick Pope

21 Apr 2018 17:24:08
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Nick Pope

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21 Apr 2018 21:44:52
Good read that Eds1. Would have to agree with your view on Pope.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. I do like him as a keeper but where he is, not as a top 4 keeper.}

21 Apr 2018 23:20:04
Cheers Ed001, always enjoy these and agree with your assessment of Pope.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

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