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05 Jun 2017 18:17:46
Anyone claiming they don't want Salah because of Afcon are using that as an excuse because they're not really excited about him signing.

I guarantee you nobody would be putting this argument forward if we signed aubameyang.


1.) 05 Jun 2017 18:37:02
The AFCON is years away and we have time to work on that eventuality. Fact is we will have two VERY rapid skilful goal scoring wingers!

2.) 05 Jun 2017 18:44:21
Nah, the same boo boys would use that argument against any African player. Most of us know it's a weak argument though.

3.) 05 Jun 2017 18:34:24
Or reuse who spends around same time on pitch as Sturbridge. though I Linda like him too.

4.) 05 Jun 2017 19:07:22
Going into january with potential semi finals (carling cup), fa cup and premierleague. Without argubably two of your better players is a worry.

But its a ling way off.

5.) 05 Jun 2017 19:41:56
Plenty more of time to prepare for it.

6.) 05 Jun 2017 19:44:44
Afcon won't be for another year and a half a lot of the youngsters (Ojo, Wilson, woodburn, ) will be hopefully first team ready by then, plus another two transfer windows on top of that. No need to panic just yet.



26 Nov 2014 18:34:48

I know you say you doubt klopp would take on the job but do you know if is at least a consideration or if we looked at him the last time round



{Ed001's Note - he will always be under consideration mate, it comes down to if he has any interest in the role, which seems unlikely considering how beloved he is in Dortmund.}




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24 Jun 2017 09:43:50

Hope you're well mate. Could you do player profile on Salah please? Appreciate you're busy though.


{Ed001's Note - I will add it to my list, will be a while though as I have a lot to get through before that.}

1.) 24 Jun 2017 10:27:34
No worries. Thanks Ed.

2.) 24 Jun 2017 10:46:41
Nor do we need him.

3.) 24 Jun 2017 11:28:30
My post "nor do we need him" was for the above Aubameyang discussion I replied on wrong post.



21 Jun 2017 07:32:32
With the imminent arrival of Salah, a lot of people asking who misses out with a lot of different opinions.

Have to say I can't remember the last time we had so many good options. Can, wiji, lallana, hendo, couts (possibly grujic? ) all battling for 3 places can only be a good thing. There'll be no resting on laurels next season.

If we can sort lb and either rb or cb, we're looking strong for next year.

Let this be studge last year to prove he can be relied upon (I live in hope) . If he has a lot of time on the treatment table then next summer could be the time for that 20+ goals striker and either the rb or cb we don't sign this year.

Onwards and upwards redmen!


1.) 21 Jun 2017 11:31:04
It really is a tough one with old Danny Studge. If we let him go he'd typically stay fit all season and score 20+ goals lol.

{Ed025's Note - studge will never be fit for long L4L, his body may improve but his head never will do mate..

2.) 21 Jun 2017 12:30:39
Studge won't play if he's got a niggle where other players with but if he stays and we get into the champions league group stage. It will be interesting to see if he will play through a niggle then.

3.) 21 Jun 2017 12:55:54
Sturridge gets stick when he's not 100% because he's playing through pain, and then stick when he doesn't play cause he's in pain. Poor lad can't win.



18 Jun 2017 07:31:42
To change things up from VVD, Salah etc.

I routed a game of lfc top trumps from 2009 yesterday. The players we used to have really cracked me up. There were some quality ones with gerrard (in his pomp), Torres, alonso, Reina, hyypia, carra. But there were also the following 😳

Damien plessis, jay spearing, Charles intanje, Diego cavlieri, David ngog, emiliano insua, Philip degen, Andrea dossena, Ryan babel.

And people on here think our squad depth is bad now!


1.) 18 Jun 2017 07:47:16
Rafa knew what he was doing. The Spine of his team was incredible. He just never got given the money to add the fair players in the other positions such as Alves, Silva, Jovetic, Villa etc.

2.) 18 Jun 2017 08:52:03
I rated Insua personally and didn't think he got a fair crack at Anfield. He had an okay career after leaving too.

3.) 18 Jun 2017 09:23:59
Rafa used to set his teams up not to lose. Which resulted in quite a few boring draws or 1-0 victories. Klopp sets his teams up to win. Which has resulted in a few losses to the teams who park the bus. We can't press teams and break when they sit back and give us 80% possession.

4.) 18 Jun 2017 09:29:33
Under Rafa, we had a fantastic first 11 rivaling the best in Europe. It was the lack of quality in depth that let us down in the league from time to time. N'gog, Voronin, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Itandje, Babel, Riera etc were simply not Liverpool quality and the team's consistency floundered as a result. Instead of these average players, we could have had ourselves David Villa, Silva, Alves etc. Unfortunately, the lack of funds and total ineptitude of H&G stopped Rafa from building a formidable squad that could challenge on all fronts.

5.) 18 Jun 2017 10:59:50
agreed IB, top post that mate, when you think of what we could have had, it makes you want to cry.

6.) 18 Jun 2017 11:15:07
I honestly don't get that people still say Rafa wasn't backed by the club he spent shed loads on players. Bought far too many average or poor players. That was his fault no one else's. And when you work out how many poor players he bought is it not any wonder the club became cautious with his targets.

7.) 18 Jun 2017 12:51:09
Insua could of been good. I'm sure 1 of the eds once said he ate to many big Macs and didn't eat/ train good enough.

{Ed001's Note - yes he had problems with his eating. He was very unhappy in England and tended to binge eat a bit.}

8.) 18 Jun 2017 13:16:54
Spot on, P1. People prolly think the rest of us have short memories and can't remember the Rafa years. MK, the guy brought in 70 players into the club during his tenure. Where those players free or did they not cost a shed load of cash? I don't wanna hear that nonsense that he was not backed by the club. He was especially in the beginning when H/ G arrived. Now were the owners great? NO. Were they a cancer? Yes. But to say, he was not backed is patently false.

The guy had NO clue what he was doing as his transfer dealings were just like BR's as in, peeing in the wind or throwing money at the problem and see what sticks. With that strategy, of course you'll find some good players which he did. Give Klopp that kind of money and see what he will do with it cos he actually knows what he is doing in the TW. Rafa did not.

Also. it was his pathetic tactics that cost us the PL in 2009 with his always setting us up to not lose instead of going for the win or pulling Torres off in games we are winning (in readiness for a CL game) and then we ended up drawing (the Wigan game comes to mind) . We had 11 draws that season and had we gone for the win in all those games, we would have won prolly half of them.

9.) 18 Jun 2017 13:37:16
Spot on, P1. Many on here seem to think that the rest of us have short memories hence, they can just rewrite history. Rafa was a good manager and won us games, trophies and made us competitive. However, that is where is all ends. He was awful in the TM and the notion that he was not backed by the owners, is patently false.

Rafa bought 70 odd players during his tenure here. Where those players all freebies where we paid nothing for them? NO. They cost a tonne of cash and majority of them were average or worse. Who gave him the backing for signing those players? That would be the owners H/ G cos Rafa did not use his money. His scatter gun approach to the TW is what led us into a more than bloated squad filled with poor quality. And his parting gift was a perennially woeful Aquilani who he'd never seen player and signed him while being injured. Brilliant. The guy is a genius, right? WRONG!

It was also his pathetic tactical setup that cost us the PL in 2009 with his always playing not to lose instead of going for the win. Had he gone for the win in the 11 games we drew, we would have turned half those draws into wins and won the PL.

Bottom line is that Rafa was a very good manager and did us proud but the rewriting of history needs to stop cos he became along with the owners, a cancer and I am glad to have seen the back of both he and the owners.

10.) 18 Jun 2017 13:45:55
Can't believe the numpties slagging Rafa. And judging by the comments they obviously have not one clue about Rafa's tenure at the club.
Rafa didn't have a clue about Alonso, Mascherano, Torres to name but a few?

11.) 18 Jun 2017 18:33:00
Yeah, Flash. He got 10 signings out of 70 odd correct. What a genius! The Alonso you speak of, would that be the same Alonso he ran out of town to be replaced by the hapless Barry and/ or the lazy and hopeless Aquilani? You just made my point for me, bro. Good job. The guy was woeful in the TW just like BR was with the normal scatter gun/ pee in the wind approach to transfers so of course he'll get 10 signings out of 70 correct. Anyone with a brain cell can do that. Give Klopp the amount that Rafa used to get those 70 odd players and see what he can do based on the transfers he made last season that improved us massively and if Salah signs, he will improve us this season. You know why? Cos unlike Rafa, Klopp knows what he is doing and Rafa never did.



16 Jun 2017 12:24:30
good to see that Harry is back on form, fit and functioning!




14 May 2017 08:33:11

I cannot believe the negativity on these pages. Nothing has changed yesterday, we win both games, we qualify.

People calling our team pathetic and bottlers want to take a look a the tone of their own posts! It looks like we have a lot of pathetic bottlers on these pages too!

Grow a set and support the lads, I don't give a sh@t how bad things have been recently, here's where we supporters show our passion for lfc.

There used to be people spitting their dummies out after we failed to lose a game, now you do it before we've even kicked off.



1.) 14 May 2017 08:44:09
Oh give it a rest, how much is an ed002 "post ov da day mate" worth to you?
If we want to criticise the team for being bottlers, the notion of which is backed up by significant evidence, we're well within our rights to do so.
I agree that the team needs support now, because we're two games away from a potentially very positive change in fortunes, but don't mug off other fans for being unhappy that we look as if we're about to throw away yet another golden opportunity.
Other than that, hopefully the players show up for what is the biggest game in years for us.

{Ed025's Note - i cant see the point in being so negative lowe, do you want to be one of the "i told you so"brigade if it goes tits up today? show some faith in your team and ditch the victor meldrew attitude mate football is supposed to be enjoyable but you make it sound like a chore..

2.) 14 May 2017 09:14:28
If the team fail to make top 4 then people's frustrations would be valid. I just can't believe the defeatist attitude before a ball has been kicked.

If you're going to call the team pathetic and bottlers when it's still in our hands then why even bother supporting the team at all?

3.) 14 May 2017 09:09:15
No Lowe,

You give it a rest. At least wait for the team to actually bottle it before you call them out.

It's still in our hands and until then, it's pathetic to slam the team.

"It's our right as fans to call the team" you guys crack me up.

4.) 14 May 2017 10:33:11
21st century supporters seem to have no concept of what supporting your team actually is. To me it certainly doesn't involve constantly slagging off the players, the club and everything connected. Particularly before a ball has even been kicked or a player has been signed.
"Traditional" supporters who back the team no matter what, and even more so when the going gets tough are a dying breed these days. Nowadays match day fans are more interested their mobile phones than what's happening on the pitch.

5.) 14 May 2017 15:20:02
I agree on most of what has been said, the time for moaning is not now, I just don't appreciate the superior attitude - that's all.




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22 Jun 2017 12:18:32
he's joined dortmund, happened a while ago.




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24 May 2017 07:42:28
If Sanchez moves on, I suspect it will be to a club he can be very confident in winning titles year in year out. Sadly we aren't that prospect at the moment. That's not to say we won't win a title in the next few years but at 27/ 28, he won't want another arsenal situation.




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19 May 2017 07:20:57
Hi Ed1,

I fully agree with you in principle. I think in some players defence, they feel if they don't hit the ground when they've been legitimately fouled then they won't get the pen. Couts against palace is a good example of pen not given when he stayed on his feet.


{Ed001's Note - but that is exactly my point, because so many cheat, refs are not giving them. If you cut out the cheating, then it would mean refs could give decisions when a player stays on his feet. First they have to stop being cheats.}



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05 May 2017 17:04:52
It screams more potential than quality. I'm not slaying the list but I think we need to pepper in some more title challenge ready players into the mix personally.

I like pereira (from what I've read/ heard) and I think Brandt would be great.

If Sturridge leaves (which he likely will), I'd prefer a more experienced striker than Dembele etc as I'm happy with origi as our striker with great potential, I'm pretty sure he'd tear it up in Scottish league too.




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30 Mar 2017 20:49:44
If you don't want to renew Waro then don't.

I get you don't like fsg but don't be such a bloody cinic. There are 1000's that would happily take that ticket off your hands.





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24 Jun 2017 10:27:34
No worries. Thanks Ed.




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23 Jun 2017 11:31:25
Did you just put lingard in as a quality option?

As ed said we have options should someone get injured - couts can slot back in there, we have lallana who can play there, wiji can play there. Not to mention the like of ojo and Wilson who could be given opportunities.

What about if Mane and Salah stay injury free, what does our new winger signing do then? Hardly a tempting move for someone to know you're 3rd choice pending injuries and a 3 week tournament that happens every 2 years.





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21 Jun 2017 19:42:23
God bless auto correct 😂😂😂.




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20 Jun 2017 19:03:34
Always remember him pinging a 30 yarder which hit the bar kop end. I swear the bar shook for the rest of the game! Absolute beast of a shot.




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19 Jun 2017 20:59:53
I honestly despair at questions like this.