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22 Aug 2018 08:15:57
I'd like to start off by saying mondays win was what we lacked before. A game we disnt perform to our best, but still won.
But, with that, I have a little critism. I felt when our players got in good attacking positions, they got a bit stingy and looked at taking a shot, rather than going for a pass to a player in a better position to score.

Andy Fields

1.) 22 Aug 2018 09:56:05
Game could have been better
We scored 2 but another day that could easily have been
5. May take a couple of games for the boys to get back
Into the swing of things following the holidays and world cup.


2.) 22 Aug 2018 11:06:43
Didn’t we beat Palace last season (twice) 1-0 and 1-2 and not play well in either. Monday’s result was a very good one but I wouldn’t go as far as saying we’ve never won ugly before. 1 game at a time.


3.) 22 Aug 2018 12:41:59
It's also not easy to find the killer pass when opposition have massed ranks around their penalty area. It's good to mix your options up, one may work for you when the other doesn't.


4.) 22 Aug 2018 13:26:32
On the other hand tho we didn't register a shot until about 20 mins into the match. I like a few strikes on goal in the first 10 even if they fly over, I just prefer front foot football from the off like we normally do.


5.) 22 Aug 2018 17:29:27
When we nearly won the league we didn't start playing properly till be smashed Tottenham in the December.

We just bagged the points up until then. Started the league with 3 or 4 1-0 wins if I remember.


6.) 22 Aug 2018 20:13:03
You're right jk23, especially the 2nd half of last season, Liverpool were winning ugly. The game at Stoke rings a bell.


 

 

31 Jul 2018 07:14:37
There's been a lot of pressure put on Klopp and Liverpool now, with others saying Liverpool now have the best squad.
I would say we have the best squad we've had in ages, but I wouldn't say we have the best squad in the league. Its hard to say who has the best squad.
What Klopp has done, is manage to get a squad that's up there with the rest of the top four, for the 1st time in ages.

Andy Fields

1.) 31 Jul 2018 07:29:08
Utd, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea don't have a squad anywhere near as complete as ours. City have a great midfield/ attack, their defence is a shambles and Ederson isn't good enough.

We have a midfield to match Citys, our attack is better, our defence is more complete, they don't have the likes of TAA, Robbo and VVD. We have Alisson, a world class keeper.

Personally I'm going with us having the best squad in the league. I'm not expecting miracles overnight but I do think we'll have a very successful season with this team.


2.) 31 Jul 2018 07:53:27
Liverpool -
Keeper - Check. Man Utd's keeper top man.
Defence - Check. Chelsea are very strong.
Midfield - Check (I wouldn't like to lose another at this point though) . All the sides are strong.
Attack - First choice is a check but I still don't think we've wholly solved the conundrum of Salah being unavailable, particularly if he were to be injured for a period? City's attack is stand-out for me.
Replacements - better than it has been for a good while but still a significant drop-off in quality, much more so than City, and possibly United and Chelsea.

Overall - definite top 4 but more vulnerable to one or two key injuries than rivals?
Is that fair?


3.) 31 Jul 2018 07:54:33
the reality is, the pressure is valid, we have a very strong squad right now and if our season ends without a trophy, questions will be asked for sure.


4.) 31 Jul 2018 07:55:05
Salah don't go over the top. We have a midfield to match City's? No we don't it is a long way off. Defence's they are about the same. We match there first 11 but their squad is still just ahead.

They smashed us by 25 points give them the respect their squad deserves. They have Aguero on the bench.


5.) 31 Jul 2018 08:08:58
Hahaha mark, defence is about the same, you are joking, right? . Man Citys defence is absolute garbage mate and if you saw the teams who weren't afraid to attack them last season (not many) you'd know this, so I'm guessing you class our defence as garbage?

They do get my respect, they will always be up there (so they should) . Them been 25 points ahead last season is completely irrelevant, if you want to go into that, Leicester won the league the other year, again completely irrelevant but do they have a better squad then us?


6.) 31 Jul 2018 08:27:25
How do they get 100 points with a poor keeper and defence? Mendy and Walker both probably get in our side. As do Silva, KDB, Sane, Kompany.

You say Silva and KDB and just about the best players in the world and now you say our midfield is as good, do me a favour.


7.) 31 Jul 2018 08:39:07
No excuses, this is what the opposition fans laugh at us for. We have spent huge money and the pressure is warranted. It's Klopps 4th season, the owners have backed him to the hilt, he said he would deliver the title and he has been given the tools to do it. Top 4 is not what we should be happy with, with our squad and manager we should be pushing right till the last game to win our first Premier League title.


8.) 31 Jul 2018 08:49:24
I don't know where you was last season mark but did you not realise the majority of teams didn't attack city? and did you realise the ones that did caused them a hell of a lot of problems?

They attacked teams and scored a shed load of goals, many teams last season were too afraid of attacking them because they knew full well City would destroy them on the attack. The teams who did go at them, THAT'S when we saw them crumble, their defence and GK are nowhere near quality, we didn't see it enough last season but we saw it enough to know they are weak at the back, very weak.

I can't believe you have just said Mendy would get in our squad lol I say no more.


9.) 31 Jul 2018 09:03:23
Mcgoveb i get you're point mate. But what people fail to remember after 1 big summer spend in the market is. our rivals have been spending like this for last few years! City spent this kind of money rebuilding there defence alone! Next season at times they will have 2 or 3 £50-60M players on the bench. yes we are going in right direction and with bit more luck with injuries and if we stay consistent we can be right up there. But let's not fall into Jose and the media's hands and start putting extra pressure on the players and management as that's exactly what likes of Jose wants so focus is on us and the 2 Manchester clubs can get on with it with less pressure and focus placed on them.


10.) 31 Jul 2018 09:04:20
Mendy was our first choice LB, or did you not know? How do you know how good he will be in the prem?

So it is all the other teams fault City got 100 points lol. Teams will not suddenly go to City and attack them, if you think that you are dreaming.

We will need over 90 points to win the league so we will need some luck and some players to step up. Firmino will have to improve his league form 14-15 goals won't cut it this year. Wandering around in midfield when we need a goal will not cut it.


11.) 31 Jul 2018 09:11:14
I don't think I agree with you on any players you rate, you think Firmino is the world's best player. I don't think he is even in our top 3 or 4 players.

Emre Can you though was top class
Shaqiri you think will be terrible
Ederson isn't good enough - for what? To win the league by 20 points.


12.) 31 Jul 2018 09:30:11
Let us not get carried away. To write off those teams before the season has started is ridiculous.
Salah mate, what is going to make city attack less this year? They will be the same threat as last year and calling Ederson crap is and man city's defence absolute garbage is just absurd.

We also need our new sightings to settle and adjust to the prem. We must know by now pre-season predictions mean nothing as anything can happen during the course of the season.


13.) 31 Jul 2018 09:43:30
Salah was our 4th choice, what's your point mate?

When did I ever say Firmino was the worlds best player? please quote me. When did I ever say Can was was top class? again, please quote me. You're quite evidently making things up now to suit your own argument.

You obviously haven't watched Man City enough to realise how unreliable Ederson and their defence is so this so a pointless discussion. Come back when you know more mate instead of judging a gk/ defence on a league table.


14.) 31 Jul 2018 09:45:59
I think Mendy will be obviously better than Robertson by the end of the season. I also think Man City got away with a hell of a lot last year because they built up a head of steam and scared other teams in to defeat. They played the vast majority of games in the opposition final third last year whereas playing just fractionally deeper would have given their defenders more to think about positionally and they would have been exposed far more often. Teams gave them too much respect and it played right into their hands. We, on the other hand, like teams to come on to us a bit more as it leaves the space behind to work in. City thrive on having all of the posession, so long as it is attacking posession where the pressure is not so great.

They are like bullies, to me. Most effective while they are on the attack. As soon as someone fights back, they don't know how to deal with it because it is not what they are used to, they turn cowardly and can more easily be gotten at. You have to show that you are not afraid over a sustained period though. It can't be done in dribs and drabs or else it doesn't change their overall mentality in a game.


15.) 31 Jul 2018 10:52:15
Most teams can't afford to attack City as they are too good on the counter. Teams will play the same against City as they did last year. City are stronger this year than last, so I expect them to win the league.

Liverpool could have a chance at the league, but need players to settle quickly, no major injuries and another great season from our attack. I hope we challenge, but it will be difficult.

City have the best midfield in the league and top class attack. Our midfield may match city of they gel, but we can't say we are as good at the minute.

In defence, City don't have the best cbs and left back needs to get back to full fitness so not the best df in the world. But midfield is so strong it compensates for it. Barcelona did that for years. Walker is best rb in the league and ederson is a top keeper with great distribution. Fits perfectly for them. Hopefully Allison fits the same for us.

Let's see what happens in the games, but be positive and support the team. Exciting season ahead.


16.) 31 Jul 2018 10:52:17
The system City play makes them vulnerable to attack at times but it doesn’t in any way make their defenders garbage. Sometimes sitting on the fence gives you a better view.


17.) 31 Jul 2018 11:03:47
Although I wouldn't agree with some of your post SL87LFC, fair post mate.


18.) 31 Jul 2018 11:18:17
we are the best team on paper in premier league. We have a fantasy team like first team.

on a different note every one in this first team is a most expensive signing one time or the other if not home grown.
allisson- most expensive GK ever.
VVD- most exp defender ever
Lovren - most Exp CB for us before VVD.
Robbo- the only bargain. he is probs the most exp irish buy ever.
TAA- home grown.
Hendo- most exp mid for us when we bought him.
Keita- most exp mid for LFC now
fab- most exp DM ever (i think he was costlier than kante)
Salah- most exp RW for LFC.
firmino- Most expensive striker LFC have bought ever (after addons)
Mane - most expensive LW we have bought. was the club record signing at the time.


19.) 31 Jul 2018 13:46:09
Whilst I'm very excited for the new season following the signings we've made, I think we can't get carried away into thinking we have the best squad. I expect a challenge this season but I would still have City's squad ahead of us. They have the experience and squad depth.

The players we signed are fantastic but as SL87 mentioned, we need them to settle. Arguably, bar Shaqiri, all players have come from weaker and less competitive leagues so it will be an adjustment.

And whilst I do think we may edge city in certain areas, its quite naive to outright suggest we are better than them in most areas. Midfield wise, in KDB/ Silva/ Fernandinho i think they're comfortable better than ours until ours can prove they're on that level.
In defence, i think we do edge them but wouldn't say city have a garbage defence. On a side note, teams don't attack them as City prevent most teams from playing by keeping the ball so well. i don't see that changing.

We certainly have the best attack but a key injury does leave us vulnerable, where City have a replacement for each key area in Aguero, Mahrez and Silva. We're dependent on Shaq and praying Sturridge finally rediscovers his form from 5 years ago.

Either way, exciting season ahead and we should get top 4 and challenge as a minimum. With a little luck on the injury front we could win it!


20.) 31 Jul 2018 15:39:32
It’s not how much teams have the ball, but their starting position on the pitch. If you set your midfield and attack slightly higher, the opposition naturally sit slightly deeper and then, in city’s case, don’t have as many players available for every attack. If you camp just outside your own area then, with or without the ball, you invite more pressure. Also, with the ball you have to work much harder to create chances because you are so much further away from goal. It takes balls against a team of their quality, but a couple of dodgy results will put doubt in their minds too.


21.) 01 Aug 2018 06:21:18
Mcgoveb is spot on, we should have aspirations of winning the league with this squad not top 4. We are so used to failure we don't want to believe, time for that to change.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 05:36:51
For us to improve on our league position from last year, we have to win more games. Its simple.
So we either have to score more goals or concede less.
Coutinho score about 10 goals (not sure of the exact number) .
Salah has a season of a lifetime, so he may score about 10 less goals this season.
That's 20 goals less.
Now Keita may score a few and maybe Shaqiri will score a few.
Would the addition of Alisson and VVD prevent us from scoring 10 goals? That would bring us to about the same goals scored to goals conceded difference to last year. Where does the improvement on either more goals or less goals being conceded come from?
We may just need a Coutinho replacement.

Andy Fields

1.) 20 Jul 2018 05:54:32
Blimey you thought long and hard about all that. Football is not played on ifs or buts just enjoy the fact we are assembling a pretty decent team with a great manager so the only way is up.
Up the pool.


2.) 20 Jul 2018 06:10:58
Are you kidding? So we have just spent a fortune on players and improved the team and you think we will be at the exact same point?
Some people are never happy.

The defense will be more confident having a top goalkeeper behind them, so they will perform better (hopefully) and anything that does get through, gets through to said top class keeper.

we have a proper DM now in Fabinho, to protect the back 4 and Keita is one hell of a ball winner too.

we have stronger, deeper depth. hopefully this means we can continue to attack for 90+ minutes instead of running out of steam around the 75th minute, going to a back 5, dropping stupidly deep and getting pummeled by waves of attacks for 15-20 minutes.

For the creativity, Keita is already - in pre season friendlies - showing amazing vision and passing range to the front players, his passing to the usual front 3 will result in a lot more goals all round as well as grabbing a few for himself.
Even if Salah gets less than last season, bobby and Mane could potentially get a lot more.

Teams that park the bus will be less of a problem (still a problem but not as much) with Shaqiri, fabinho and Keita all capable of scoring some long range screamers to cut out and shock them if needed.

Aaaarrrhhhhhhhh this post made me angry lol.


3.) 20 Jul 2018 06:13:38
I didn’t realize the league was won on goal difference! I thought it was won on points. Last season we put 7 past Arsenal and earned 4 points, winning 4-0 and a 3-3 draw. If we had only beaten them 3-0 at home but 4-3 away we’d have scored the same amount of goals but earned 6 points, there’s the improvement.


4.) 20 Jul 2018 06:22:22
By that logic, Alisson is a complete waste of time and space. So it's best to just find the Coutinho replacement, and with the same number of goals conceded, and with the Coutinho replacement adding the extra 5-10 goals scored, voila we are good enough.

It is that simple. Isn't it?

{Ed001's Note - Alisson was one of the most creative players in Serie A, he might well create more goals for us, as well as stopping them.}


5.) 20 Jul 2018 06:30:41
As soon as I read your previous comments on how you rated him, I am all down to him, Ed01. Trusted your judgment than anyone else's here, and that's not a compliment!

Please let Liverpool win the league this time, please God please.

{Ed001's Note - if you need more on him, there is an article on the BBC about him by James Horncastle which is worth a read. He is one of many seasoned Serie A watchers who agree with me that Alisson is a special talent and was the outstanding player in the league last season.}


6.) 20 Jul 2018 06:37:34
Yeah I read it, Ed01. Really hope he can be the Liverpool's Buffon!

{Ed001's Note - he certainly has the talent. It has been a long time since I have been this excited about a new season! I don't think we had truly solved the goalkeeper position since Brucie left. Reina was good, very good, but he was never world class, always that step below the greats. Alisson has the potential to be the one on the top step that all the rest are compared to.}


7.) 20 Jul 2018 07:00:42
In addition to the comments already made, the original poster is assuming all the other teams get the same number of points as last season.

Pretty obvious they won’t 🤝.


8.) 20 Jul 2018 07:53:38
Looking forward to seeing Alisson play, just hope Achterberg doesn’t ruin him.


9.) 20 Jul 2018 08:33:16
The key is to stop throwing away leads and close out games we should win - Everton, Chelsea, Spurs, West Brom, Watfors, Arsenal.

Win more points against our rivals, too many dropped last season. Recover from CL games in a better fashion which the improved squad will remedy.

Finally, some bloody luck and referees willing to give us penalties!

Strongly believe we will win the title this year. We have for manly a strong spine and a solid defensive midfielder in Fabinio . Look forward to Utds long ball to lukaku when he is sandwiches between Fabinio and Lovren.

Come on u redmen! This is it . YNWA.


 

 

06 Jul 2018 11:02:22
Soccer is basically a battle between scoring goals and preventing goals being scored.
So ideally, if an outfield player (forward or midfield) has the right technic and temperament, he should score every time.
But, if the defender and or keeper has the right technic and temperament, they should prevent the goal from being scored every time.
So there has to be human error or lack of concentration or just a plain simply, I player doing a better job at that point.
Sometimes the error or lack of concentration seems worse.
Keepers will make mistakes. Defenders will make mistakes. That's how we end up with goals.
Strikers do make mistakes. That's how we don't end up with games with ridiculous scores at times.
When our players score, we feel they were brilliant. When the other team scores, we feel our defense or Kepler messed up.
My point is, yes Karius messed up in the biggest way at the wrong time. But how many times have the oppositions keeper messed up to allow us to score?

Andy Fields

1.) 06 Jul 2018 11:17:35
Top Goalkeepers win leagues.
They prevent certain goals and rarely give away soft goals.
Karius gives away too many sift goals.
Btw
Goals change games.


2.) 06 Jul 2018 11:41:46
Even more evidence of fans outlook being off sometimes was the England match. Some England fans are slating Henderson for missing a penalty and in the same breath praising Pickford for Saving there pen. So our keeper is amazing for saving there penalty but our player is rubbish when there keeper saves a pen?


3.) 06 Jul 2018 11:45:47
Langland, a top keeper may go towards winning the league.

However it is not a guarantee, look at De Gea, arguably the best in the world but didn't take Utd to the title.

What you need from a keeper is someone who minimises mistakes, they will always make one or two just depends on luck if they cost points of not.

IMO Karius went along way To improving our fortunes in defence in the back end of last season, unfortunately he made mistakes in the biggest game of his career, it happens.

Leicester proved it’s a squad game that wins titles, yes a new keeper may help but there is also 10 other positions on the pitch.

I think Ederson is an ok keeper but he rarely gets tested because everyone was petrified of what their outfield can do. Next season we will have a team that will frighten defences.

You are correct though goals win games, and we should score a bucket load!


4.) 06 Jul 2018 11:55:43
With De Gea United got 2nd without him they would be 4th or 5th and with a top keeper we could have been 1st or 2nd instead of 4th.

{Ed002's Note - You need rid of Klopp then - he is making these decisions and costing the club points.}


5.) 06 Jul 2018 12:24:40
The only thing I can't seem to work out is why all of a sudden we realise the prices being asked for these keepers are too much?

The prices floating around (for months) have always been ridiculously high, why now all of a sudden bulk at it?

It's not as if we were going to get Oblak or Alisson for cheap. Maybe the club were waiting for the storm of the Champions League to pass over. I don't know.


6.) 06 Jul 2018 16:41:31
Spot on, WYRed. This idea that "a top GK wins you trophies" is not full proof and never has been and people banging on and on about it will still not make it full proof.

Pepe is regarded at the club as a top GK in his time. How many PL's did we win with him? NADA! In fact had SG not saved his bacon in the 2006 FA Cup, he would have been responsible for us losing that final. Also, Oblak replaced Courtois who won la Liga at Atleti. Have they won the league ye with him in goal? Same with DDG. He is arguably the best in the world YET Utd ain't won the PL since 2013. And like you said, LC has shown that winning the PL is a squad game and had BR not bottled it in 2014, we would have won the PL with the worst defence in the top 5 that season and with the legendary Lev Yashin I mean, Simon Mignolet in goal. Yeah, exactly.

Bottom line is that winning the league or any trophy is a team game where everyone contributes to the cause. It is only in England that I hear this nonsense that a GK wins you x amount of points. IMO, that has NEVER been true. The GK needs to perform just like everyone else, end of story.


7.) 06 Jul 2018 18:28:51
Conceding goals is not always a case of making a mistake. Football is not a science or a mathematic equation. Look at bales 1st goal in Kiev.

No one really made a mistake, Bale just scored a phenomenal goal. Having better players gives you a better chance but nothing is guaranteed. We lost to west brom and Swansea last season. Signing oblak is no guarantee of winning the league but it would increase our chance.


8.) 07 Jul 2018 17:42:34
Brilliant post, Prince. I fully agree. Football is a very nuanced sport where 2+2 almost always equals 5. It is the people who consider 2+2 must always equal 4 in football, that come up with these wild claims and guarantees whereas any one with a functioning brain and capable of using nuance to analyse football, knows that is not how it works.


 

 

05 Jun 2018 21:39:41
Read a few posts about our player's going on loan. Would it have been a good idea for our fringe players to have been sent to Southampton on loan? Seeing as we end up buying so many of their players, why not just send our player's there, let them develop and bring them back. We would have saved a lot of money 😂.

Andy Fields

1.) 05 Jun 2018 21:58:44
They won’t take ours mate 😂😂.


 

 

 

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If he was just at the game because he was on holiday, then why leave before the game ended? Wasn't he the one that asked people to stay for the full games?

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31 Jul 2018 11:59:40
I heard we wanted to sign him. Made a bid. It was accepted. He came for a medical, even did a promo add. Then we may have backed out of the deal because of an old injury that might be recurring. So we tried to renegotiate the price or structure. Deal fell through. But rumours were there was still a chance. Then he may have been offered a new contract by Lyon.

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25 Jul 2018 17:47:48
Where was the YNWA when speaking about Sturridge or Klyne or Mignolet or countless other players a lot felt were not good enough?
Dont take it the wrong way, posting in a site that we feel Karius is not good enough is not the same as abusing him!

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23 Jul 2018 08:59:17
Do you think Sturidge gets injured because fans are mean to him as well?
This is professional sports. Players are going to be critisized.

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27 Jun 2018 07:11:43
Not say I g I agree that Coutinho is better than Fekir, but I think Fekir would be a better play for us/ the team at the moment. Coutinho was becoming, if not already world class which meant everything went through him in terms of play. And that held is back in fluidity at times. Fekir is good, but will be new to the team and not the teams superstar, so he can't and should not try to be the "main man's which will allow us to play as a team in attack, and that is our strength.
So for Liverpool currently, Fekir is the better player.

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08 Jun 2018 18:45:30
So you don't want something that would be good for the club to happen, just so in your eyes the ITK will look stupid? Are you even a fan?

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