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14 Nov 2018 08:39:48
Firstly if we see fault with our team, it dies not make us any less passionate or a fan than the next person.
Those that are saying we not playing as well as we should, are not saying we should go back to our strategy of last season. All we are saying is that we have drastically improved our defense and keeper, so if we played the attacking football of last season, or close to that, with some caution, we would be playing better. We not asking for 5-4 wins. We expressing that we are not playing to ALL our strengths yet.
If Sturridge didn't score that last minute goal against Chelsea, if Mahrez scored the penalty and if the goal Fulham scored stood (we have had bad decisions given against us) . We could be 5 points less. With potentially 3 losses. Chelsea and City could have 2 more points each as well. Now I'm not say this to say that we were lucky, my point of this is, woukd everyone still be happy if thise 3 things happened? Because honestly, that would put us in a position we were last season, when most were not so happy. I think Klopp also feels we need to improve in our attack.
Our "criticism" should not be taken as a negative vibe against the team, all we saying is we do need to improve in our midfield when we are attacked. And improve in midfeild and attack linking when we attack.

Andy Fields

1.) 14 Nov 2018 10:15:04
Lot of “ifs” there, you sound like an Everton fan, “if” this and “if” that.
You can say the same about any team in the league, games have fine margins, any team can have more or less points depending on small decisions, you’ve just decided to focus on all the occasions we got lucky, saying if we didn’t get that luck we would be lower down the table, you could quite easily look at all our games and pick out all the times we didn’t have luck and conceded or didn’t score and say we should be miles ahead. At the end of the day it’s the result at the end of the night that matters, over a season the good and bad luck evens itself out.
You can’t play defensive and attacking football at the same time it doesn’t work, if we played more offensive then the defence will suffer, we are grinding out results and that’s all that matters in a title challenge, we also have a brand new goalkeeper let's not put extra pressure on him by leaving him exposed.
this years football isn’t as fun to watch but looking at the league table makes up for that, it’s obvious the team is a lot more restrained so we last the distance in a title race.
Finally, seriously stop bloody moaning and support the team.

2.) 14 Nov 2018 10:56:09
That's a good one, mikey! Totally agree with you. But I won't say watching Liverpool this season isn't as fun as the previous season. I would say different. I like it just as much.

3.) 14 Nov 2018 12:26:39
I don’t think anyone would disagree that we’re far from on top form Andy. But anyone who’s been slammed for negativity is rightly so. We can express our concerns with team performances without moaning. Ultimately we are 2nd and 2 points off a fantastic city squad having already played them. We can spout luck all we want but there are zero grounds to moan about our current circumstances.

These moans would only be warranted if weren’t where we are. Be concerned, but don’t complain, do you think we could have started better honestly and realistically?

4.) 14 Nov 2018 12:28:22
Almost every Arsenal game on their unbeaten streak has been a highly contested game that they could have easily lost or drawn. Yes we’ve had a couple of games where decisions have gone our way but the Arsenal game was an example of luck evening out. It’s fine to critique the team, but to suggest we don’t deserve to be where we are is simply untrue. Our performances haven’t been great all the time, but neither has any other team bar city. Reading some comments you’d think Arsenal and Chelsea were 10 points ahead of us.

5.) 14 Nov 2018 13:20:13
All champions can mix it and be flexible like winning ugly or winning when not 100 percent as well as slicing teams open and showing class, i would rather be a team that can win in more ways than one than one that can only play one way an if it doesn't work we implode. That is what klopp is trying too work towards I think and maybe it had an impact on his working relationship wid buvac as last season an seasons before it was all guns blazing with no other method of play . I believe city are the best as they have adapted the quickest and the best under pep too all the qualities mentioned above we are learning on the job .

6.) 14 Nov 2018 13:32:57
It's all a question of semantics and "perspective", in the end. By definition words like "better" and "worse" are always going to be subjective because everyone sees things in their own way, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Some choose the high flying style of last year and some choose the methodical style of this year. And while some can argue that the points total thus far this year makes the team "better" than last years, some will bring up luck and slower "workmanlike" approach to playing and, therefore, a more boring and tedious style from the perspective of a fan/ viewer.

My view is that we must win the title. And I prefer to leave the style of play up to Mr. Klopp and his team. He knows best, simply because he's been placed in charge of making those decisions which result in the style of play we are using. I saw the high flying years of 13/ 14 and last year, and after not making it in the end, I will give Mr. Klopp and his team the option to choose whichever style he thinks is necessary to finally get over the hump this year.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the back and forth that is going on these pages. Everyone has their perspective. I'm simply leaving it up to the manager to do as he sees fit to win the title because that's what I trust his objective is (the same as mine) .

7.) 14 Nov 2018 13:34:15
Luck usually evens itself out over the season. The table doesn’t lie and this season we have been the 2nd best team regardless of ifs and buts. If you’re not happy with the progress we have made I really have no idea what your expectation was? Break a new premier league record for points after 12 games? Key is to stay in the mix until after Xmas and then you’re in with a shout. Every team will go through a tough period. We may have just had ours and look where we are!

8.) 14 Nov 2018 16:57:39
You have a valid point there Swishcleaner. Last year was one of surprises. Nobody expected us to threaten ManC the way we did or end up in the UCL final, and let's not forget about Klopp's 4th choice winger purchase ending up as Player of the Year. So last year's surprises created expectations for this year. The same type of play and better results because we reinforced weak areas. The results are better (mathematics and numbers don't lie) but the style of play has been different; mostly out of design by Klopp and the coaching staff. So people talk.

9.) 14 Nov 2018 19:15:32
OP, using the if's and but's kind of defeats your whole theory I'm afraid. Had we scored all our chances vs Chelsea, we win the game, period. See, anyone can play that game. Those are hypotheticals and sorry, I do not live in that world cos you can use those to make any subjective point you want to make. I live in the here and now and right now, the table as someone said, does not lie. We are where we are cos we deserve to be there. NOBODY gave us anything. We have earned every point we have and the ones we don't have, we have not doe enough to earn them. That is how football and really, life works.

Now should we improve? Absolutely cos the issues are there for all to see. What does a lot of people's heads in is those moaning cos we did not pummel Fulham 5-0. That is where the moaners get no sympathy from me. They seem to forget that this is football, the PL where any given weekend, a big team can lose points or lose, period. Ask City (drew with Wolves) and Arsenal (who almost got embarrassed by same Wolves) or Spurs who struggled mightily vs Wolves and Palace. You have to go out there and compete and that is what we have done and will continue to do.

I also think people see our season thru the prism of what City is doing. It is a choice they have made for themselves so them moaning about stuff will be met with criticism cos we are LFC, not City. Klopp and LFC no longer need to prove that they can play fluid footie, score goals or pummel the best teams in all of Europe. It is time to WIN and Klopp is trying to do that and whatever decisions he makes that will help us get there, I am good with.

10.) 14 Nov 2018 19:45:12
Is right BR.



30 Sep 2018 14:46:46
After the Southampton game, I posted in here and got criticized for saying that if I could find 1 fault, it was that we didn't go for another goal, mainly in the second half, where we couldn't get into good positions in their box. I felt a few shots from outside the box would have helped us maybe get the 4th goal.
There was hardly much space for us to get into good positions in the Chelsea box. Our goal came from a world class strike from outside the box. Salah did take a shot from distances as well.
I still feel we need to take a few shots from outside the box, instead of always trying to work the ball into the net. We are going to come up against sides with good defense who will hold a good line, but, with long shots as a threat, it will give us space as they will be looking out for that as well.

Andy Fields

1.) 30 Sep 2018 15:03:07
True. sometimes we are trying to be too fancy. I would like to see more shot from our mids. Kita?!

2.) 30 Sep 2018 22:31:42
Andy, I agree with you that we have to be a bit unpredictable in our approach. That said, I disagree that we could not get into good positions cos if that was the case, how did Salah have the three chances he had in the box off of the intricate play that led to them? How did Mane get the chance he got in the box after good work from Bobbie in the box? Two shots cleared off the line from shots taken inside the box? You can argue that we did not do enough to be more efficient up top BUT to say that we could not get into good positions, is untrue cos the stats I listed prove you wrong. As for us needing a worldie to get a point after creating more clear chances than they did well, that is football for you. It is NOT an exact science.



23 Sep 2018 07:00:28
We played well yesterday, but just a few quick points/ questions.
In the second half, I really wanted us to score another goal. But we couldn't seem to thread through their defence. Have we scored a goal from outside the box this season?
The 1 criticism I have, is that we didn't look for more goals in the second half with an urgency. We did attack well I think, but I feel 1 more goal would have put us in a better position to remain top, with goal difference, if Chelsea win today. Which I feel may help going to them next week.
Its that killer instinct that's missing a bit, to finish off a team. Now I know everyone will say 3 nil is finishing off a team, but City woukd have tried for more.

Andy Fields

{Ed001's Note - and City have shown how limited a team they are in Europe, so why on earth would we want to be like them?}

1.) 23 Sep 2018 08:05:09
City are still benefiting from the fear factor that surrounds them in England. Cardiff are also a woeful team. The more teams try and get at City the more they will realise that there is a soft underbelly there to be exploited, for those with courage at least. I don't think we could say the same about us - sure teams may score goals against us, but I think even this early on in the season we have shown how resilient we are and how difficult teams will find it playing against us. We could've added to our tally as well - City may score slightly more goals but, against opposition who are game, they will likely concede more as well.

2.) 23 Sep 2018 08:07:18
Seriously?! 🙄.

3.) 23 Sep 2018 09:38:26
3 games in 9 days mate, its called game and squad management, hence why shakira was changed at half time i suspect. Klopp is no mug people, we could have gone all out and had no juice left for Wednesday.

4.) 23 Sep 2018 09:56:30
It’s fans like you that create an awful atmosphere at Anfield even when winning 3-0.

5.) 23 Sep 2018 11:09:23
The chants of “Is this a library” from the Southampton fans were quite sad, flidby. If you can’t get a stadium singing at 3-0 up then something isn’t right.

6.) 23 Sep 2018 12:36:21
Being 1st or 2nd based on goal difference is not important at all in September. The key is to remain within 3-5 points of the first place come the last 5 games.

7.) 24 Sep 2018 06:06:46
It actually makes me think its not worth posting here anymore. Did any of you not see the first few words of my post? I said we played well!
Are we less of a supporter if we ask questions that may make us better?
There are 2 parts to my post, 1 was about us not scoring from distance. I feel that teams are going to pack the box, which is going to make ot hard for us to thread through the defence. This was clear in the second half. So buy us scoring a few goals from distance, or even just taking a few shots, will add to our attack, and teams won't just sit back around the box
The second part was not meant as a critism of how well we are playing, it was merely me stating that I would have liked for us to try to win by 4 goals to close down the goal difference or open up a bigger gap. I didn't say we have to start playing like city in every way!
We just need to try and get that killer instinct that we had last season, 1 goal or 2 goals were not enough, the team always tried to score more.

8.) 24 Sep 2018 09:45:19
Why do we have to score more when we’re winning 3-0?
Last season we did because there was a good chance we would concede 2 goals in quick succession.

These days, with a more solid defence, we are able to shut teams out. The more we practice this, the easier it will be to win tight games (like finals)



22 Aug 2018 08:15:57
I'd like to start off by saying mondays win was what we lacked before. A game we disnt perform to our best, but still won.
But, with that, I have a little critism. I felt when our players got in good attacking positions, they got a bit stingy and looked at taking a shot, rather than going for a pass to a player in a better position to score.

Andy Fields

1.) 22 Aug 2018 09:56:05
Game could have been better
We scored 2 but another day that could easily have been
5. May take a couple of games for the boys to get back
Into the swing of things following the holidays and world cup.

2.) 22 Aug 2018 11:06:43
Didn’t we beat Palace last season (twice) 1-0 and 1-2 and not play well in either. Monday’s result was a very good one but I wouldn’t go as far as saying we’ve never won ugly before. 1 game at a time.

3.) 22 Aug 2018 12:41:59
It's also not easy to find the killer pass when opposition have massed ranks around their penalty area. It's good to mix your options up, one may work for you when the other doesn't.

4.) 22 Aug 2018 13:26:32
On the other hand tho we didn't register a shot until about 20 mins into the match. I like a few strikes on goal in the first 10 even if they fly over, I just prefer front foot football from the off like we normally do.

5.) 22 Aug 2018 17:29:27
When we nearly won the league we didn't start playing properly till be smashed Tottenham in the December.

We just bagged the points up until then. Started the league with 3 or 4 1-0 wins if I remember.

6.) 22 Aug 2018 20:13:03
You're right jk23, especially the 2nd half of last season, Liverpool were winning ugly. The game at Stoke rings a bell.



31 Jul 2018 07:14:37
There's been a lot of pressure put on Klopp and Liverpool now, with others saying Liverpool now have the best squad.
I would say we have the best squad we've had in ages, but I wouldn't say we have the best squad in the league. Its hard to say who has the best squad.
What Klopp has done, is manage to get a squad that's up there with the rest of the top four, for the 1st time in ages.

Andy Fields

1.) 31 Jul 2018 07:29:08
Utd, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea don't have a squad anywhere near as complete as ours. City have a great midfield/ attack, their defence is a shambles and Ederson isn't good enough.

We have a midfield to match Citys, our attack is better, our defence is more complete, they don't have the likes of TAA, Robbo and VVD. We have Alisson, a world class keeper.

Personally I'm going with us having the best squad in the league. I'm not expecting miracles overnight but I do think we'll have a very successful season with this team.

2.) 31 Jul 2018 07:53:27
Liverpool -
Keeper - Check. Man Utd's keeper top man.
Defence - Check. Chelsea are very strong.
Midfield - Check (I wouldn't like to lose another at this point though) . All the sides are strong.
Attack - First choice is a check but I still don't think we've wholly solved the conundrum of Salah being unavailable, particularly if he were to be injured for a period? City's attack is stand-out for me.
Replacements - better than it has been for a good while but still a significant drop-off in quality, much more so than City, and possibly United and Chelsea.

Overall - definite top 4 but more vulnerable to one or two key injuries than rivals?
Is that fair?

3.) 31 Jul 2018 07:54:33
the reality is, the pressure is valid, we have a very strong squad right now and if our season ends without a trophy, questions will be asked for sure.

4.) 31 Jul 2018 07:55:05
Salah don't go over the top. We have a midfield to match City's? No we don't it is a long way off. Defence's they are about the same. We match there first 11 but their squad is still just ahead.

They smashed us by 25 points give them the respect their squad deserves. They have Aguero on the bench.

5.) 31 Jul 2018 08:08:58
Hahaha mark, defence is about the same, you are joking, right? . Man Citys defence is absolute garbage mate and if you saw the teams who weren't afraid to attack them last season (not many) you'd know this, so I'm guessing you class our defence as garbage?

They do get my respect, they will always be up there (so they should) . Them been 25 points ahead last season is completely irrelevant, if you want to go into that, Leicester won the league the other year, again completely irrelevant but do they have a better squad then us?

6.) 31 Jul 2018 08:27:25
How do they get 100 points with a poor keeper and defence? Mendy and Walker both probably get in our side. As do Silva, KDB, Sane, Kompany.

You say Silva and KDB and just about the best players in the world and now you say our midfield is as good, do me a favour.

7.) 31 Jul 2018 08:39:07
No excuses, this is what the opposition fans laugh at us for. We have spent huge money and the pressure is warranted. It's Klopps 4th season, the owners have backed him to the hilt, he said he would deliver the title and he has been given the tools to do it. Top 4 is not what we should be happy with, with our squad and manager we should be pushing right till the last game to win our first Premier League title.

8.) 31 Jul 2018 08:49:24
I don't know where you was last season mark but did you not realise the majority of teams didn't attack city? and did you realise the ones that did caused them a hell of a lot of problems?

They attacked teams and scored a shed load of goals, many teams last season were too afraid of attacking them because they knew full well City would destroy them on the attack. The teams who did go at them, THAT'S when we saw them crumble, their defence and GK are nowhere near quality, we didn't see it enough last season but we saw it enough to know they are weak at the back, very weak.

I can't believe you have just said Mendy would get in our squad lol I say no more.

9.) 31 Jul 2018 09:03:23
Mcgoveb i get you're point mate. But what people fail to remember after 1 big summer spend in the market is. our rivals have been spending like this for last few years! City spent this kind of money rebuilding there defence alone! Next season at times they will have 2 or 3 £50-60M players on the bench. yes we are going in right direction and with bit more luck with injuries and if we stay consistent we can be right up there. But let's not fall into Jose and the media's hands and start putting extra pressure on the players and management as that's exactly what likes of Jose wants so focus is on us and the 2 Manchester clubs can get on with it with less pressure and focus placed on them.

10.) 31 Jul 2018 09:04:20
Mendy was our first choice LB, or did you not know? How do you know how good he will be in the prem?

So it is all the other teams fault City got 100 points lol. Teams will not suddenly go to City and attack them, if you think that you are dreaming.

We will need over 90 points to win the league so we will need some luck and some players to step up. Firmino will have to improve his league form 14-15 goals won't cut it this year. Wandering around in midfield when we need a goal will not cut it.

11.) 31 Jul 2018 09:11:14
I don't think I agree with you on any players you rate, you think Firmino is the world's best player. I don't think he is even in our top 3 or 4 players.

Emre Can you though was top class
Shaqiri you think will be terrible
Ederson isn't good enough - for what? To win the league by 20 points.

12.) 31 Jul 2018 09:30:11
Let us not get carried away. To write off those teams before the season has started is ridiculous.
Salah mate, what is going to make city attack less this year? They will be the same threat as last year and calling Ederson crap is and man city's defence absolute garbage is just absurd.

We also need our new sightings to settle and adjust to the prem. We must know by now pre-season predictions mean nothing as anything can happen during the course of the season.

13.) 31 Jul 2018 09:43:30
Salah was our 4th choice, what's your point mate?

When did I ever say Firmino was the worlds best player? please quote me. When did I ever say Can was was top class? again, please quote me. You're quite evidently making things up now to suit your own argument.

You obviously haven't watched Man City enough to realise how unreliable Ederson and their defence is so this so a pointless discussion. Come back when you know more mate instead of judging a gk/ defence on a league table.

14.) 31 Jul 2018 09:45:59
I think Mendy will be obviously better than Robertson by the end of the season. I also think Man City got away with a hell of a lot last year because they built up a head of steam and scared other teams in to defeat. They played the vast majority of games in the opposition final third last year whereas playing just fractionally deeper would have given their defenders more to think about positionally and they would have been exposed far more often. Teams gave them too much respect and it played right into their hands. We, on the other hand, like teams to come on to us a bit more as it leaves the space behind to work in. City thrive on having all of the posession, so long as it is attacking posession where the pressure is not so great.

They are like bullies, to me. Most effective while they are on the attack. As soon as someone fights back, they don't know how to deal with it because it is not what they are used to, they turn cowardly and can more easily be gotten at. You have to show that you are not afraid over a sustained period though. It can't be done in dribs and drabs or else it doesn't change their overall mentality in a game.

15.) 31 Jul 2018 10:52:15
Most teams can't afford to attack City as they are too good on the counter. Teams will play the same against City as they did last year. City are stronger this year than last, so I expect them to win the league.

Liverpool could have a chance at the league, but need players to settle quickly, no major injuries and another great season from our attack. I hope we challenge, but it will be difficult.

City have the best midfield in the league and top class attack. Our midfield may match city of they gel, but we can't say we are as good at the minute.

In defence, City don't have the best cbs and left back needs to get back to full fitness so not the best df in the world. But midfield is so strong it compensates for it. Barcelona did that for years. Walker is best rb in the league and ederson is a top keeper with great distribution. Fits perfectly for them. Hopefully Allison fits the same for us.

Let's see what happens in the games, but be positive and support the team. Exciting season ahead.

16.) 31 Jul 2018 10:52:17
The system City play makes them vulnerable to attack at times but it doesn’t in any way make their defenders garbage. Sometimes sitting on the fence gives you a better view.

17.) 31 Jul 2018 11:03:47
Although I wouldn't agree with some of your post SL87LFC, fair post mate.

18.) 31 Jul 2018 11:18:17
we are the best team on paper in premier league. We have a fantasy team like first team.

on a different note every one in this first team is a most expensive signing one time or the other if not home grown.
allisson- most expensive GK ever.
VVD- most exp defender ever
Lovren - most Exp CB for us before VVD.
Robbo- the only bargain. he is probs the most exp irish buy ever.
TAA- home grown.
Hendo- most exp mid for us when we bought him.
Keita- most exp mid for LFC now
fab- most exp DM ever (i think he was costlier than kante)
Salah- most exp RW for LFC.
firmino- Most expensive striker LFC have bought ever (after addons)
Mane - most expensive LW we have bought. was the club record signing at the time.

19.) 31 Jul 2018 13:46:09
Whilst I'm very excited for the new season following the signings we've made, I think we can't get carried away into thinking we have the best squad. I expect a challenge this season but I would still have City's squad ahead of us. They have the experience and squad depth.

The players we signed are fantastic but as SL87 mentioned, we need them to settle. Arguably, bar Shaqiri, all players have come from weaker and less competitive leagues so it will be an adjustment.

And whilst I do think we may edge city in certain areas, its quite naive to outright suggest we are better than them in most areas. Midfield wise, in KDB/ Silva/ Fernandinho i think they're comfortable better than ours until ours can prove they're on that level.
In defence, i think we do edge them but wouldn't say city have a garbage defence. On a side note, teams don't attack them as City prevent most teams from playing by keeping the ball so well. i don't see that changing.

We certainly have the best attack but a key injury does leave us vulnerable, where City have a replacement for each key area in Aguero, Mahrez and Silva. We're dependent on Shaq and praying Sturridge finally rediscovers his form from 5 years ago.

Either way, exciting season ahead and we should get top 4 and challenge as a minimum. With a little luck on the injury front we could win it!

20.) 31 Jul 2018 15:39:32
It’s not how much teams have the ball, but their starting position on the pitch. If you set your midfield and attack slightly higher, the opposition naturally sit slightly deeper and then, in city’s case, don’t have as many players available for every attack. If you camp just outside your own area then, with or without the ball, you invite more pressure. Also, with the ball you have to work much harder to create chances because you are so much further away from goal. It takes balls against a team of their quality, but a couple of dodgy results will put doubt in their minds too.

21.) 01 Aug 2018 06:21:18
Mcgoveb is spot on, we should have aspirations of winning the league with this squad not top 4. We are so used to failure we don't want to believe, time for that to change.




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If he was just at the game because he was on holiday, then why leave before the game ended? Wasn't he the one that asked people to stay for the full games?

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07 Nov 2018 07:40:59
Its not just the loss! But the way we have been playing recently!

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24 Sep 2018 06:06:46
It actually makes me think its not worth posting here anymore. Did any of you not see the first few words of my post? I said we played well!
Are we less of a supporter if we ask questions that may make us better?
There are 2 parts to my post, 1 was about us not scoring from distance. I feel that teams are going to pack the box, which is going to make ot hard for us to thread through the defence. This was clear in the second half. So buy us scoring a few goals from distance, or even just taking a few shots, will add to our attack, and teams won't just sit back around the box
The second part was not meant as a critism of how well we are playing, it was merely me stating that I would have liked for us to try to win by 4 goals to close down the goal difference or open up a bigger gap. I didn't say we have to start playing like city in every way!
We just need to try and get that killer instinct that we had last season, 1 goal or 2 goals were not enough, the team always tried to score more.

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31 Jul 2018 11:59:40
I heard we wanted to sign him. Made a bid. It was accepted. He came for a medical, even did a promo add. Then we may have backed out of the deal because of an old injury that might be recurring. So we tried to renegotiate the price or structure. Deal fell through. But rumours were there was still a chance. Then he may have been offered a new contract by Lyon.

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25 Jul 2018 17:47:48
Where was the YNWA when speaking about Sturridge or Klyne or Mignolet or countless other players a lot felt were not good enough?
Dont take it the wrong way, posting in a site that we feel Karius is not good enough is not the same as abusing him!

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23 Jul 2018 08:59:17
Do you think Sturidge gets injured because fans are mean to him as well?
This is professional sports. Players are going to be critisized.

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