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31 Aug 2017 20:32:37
Ryan Kent has gone out on loan to Freiburg. Decent move. Hopefully he gets some game time.

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05 Jun 2017 17:49:56
According to Graeme Kelly, the man who has been committed in his belief that Van Dijk would join us, all the way back to January, believes he knows the transfer structure of the deal.

Apparently, Van Dijk will cost £44 million and 8 million add ons (The add on being that we win the Premier League)

Not sure how true this is, but for me, the deal sounds like it is good for all parties. I still think 50 million plus for a centre back is over the top, but to buy quality sometimes you have to overspend. Hopefully he can shut me down and humiliate me by putting in some good performances.

Also, I think Joe Gomez's time at Liverpool is done. With Van Dijk starting, and hell, even Klavan ahead of him in the pecking order, Joe will have no choice but to leave to pursue first team football. A shame because I think the boy could be something special, if given time. I really hope he leaves on a loan but, with the money spent, and interest in him, I think the move will be permanent.

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1.) 05 Jun 2017 18:06:43
Man I hope to god we end up paying £52 million for Dick Van Dyke!


2.) 05 Jun 2017 18:07:17
Think we'll loan Joe out from what the Ed's have said. Hopefully he has a good spell somewhere, comes back next summer and we sell Klavan.


3.) 05 Jun 2017 18:07:41
Both Sakho and Gomez will bring us some serious cash.


4.) 05 Jun 2017 18:18:08
If those figures are reasonably close then I think it's a brilliant deal. Expensive but so much better than what we already have and with scope for improvement at his age. Considering we should get a decent amount if we sell sakho and considering stones went for 50m last year,50 odd million seems par for the course for a good player in this summers market.


5.) 05 Jun 2017 18:23:15
Could klopp be thinking of using Gomes at either full back position? I'm sure he played RB for one of the England squads? Scored a beauty from there as well I seem to remember.


6.) 05 Jun 2017 18:39:17
Klavan or Gomez?

I know which player I'd be keeping.


 

 

30 May 2017 14:45:24
Very happy with the signing of Dominic Solanke. He is a deadly finisher, broken all kinds of records at youth level, and could really benefit from developing in our U23 squad before being moved up. Also, 2-3 million for a quality youth player who Mourinho has previously ear marked to be a big player for Chelsea and England, to the point that he said if Solanke didn't make the first team that it would be down to his, Mourinho's fault. Huge praise from a man who rarely gives it.

However, there does seem to be a down side to potential signings today. And that is that it looks like Ryan Sessegnon will be moving to Tottenham instead of us. The boy wants to stay in London, apparently, and fair play to the lad. Tottenham is a fantastic place for youngsters to develop and be given opportunities, unlike teams like Chelsea, City and United. So Sessegnon is clealy not moving to Tottenham for the money, he is moving because of further development and opportunities. A shame, as I think the lad had tremendous ability for someone his age, but we move on. Simple as that.

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07 Jul 2016 11:59:47
So it looks like Jordan Ibe really is leaving for Bournemouth, and for the reported 15 million too. In all honesty I think this is a good deal all round. Ibe needs to play more regularly and I think Bournemouth might be a great place to ply his trade. Best of luck to the lad, I wish nothing but the best for him.

Also, before people starting jumping on the 'we need a replacement' 'we need a costly replacement now' bandwagon. I have to admit, i don't think it is entirely necessary. Ibe was on the fringes of the squad after all, not a regular starter under Klopp.

So, rather than spend money to replace Ibe. why not give Sheyi Ojo the chance to push for the position. The lad is young, already contributed with a number of assists last season and looks like he would be up to challenge for a place.

We don't always need to go out and sign players the moment one leaves. We have several capable youngsters who can step in, Branagan and Ojo are at the top of my personal list along with Stewart.

And for all those people who say they are not good enough. look at Harry Kane as a prime example, struggled on loan but has scored 20 plus goals in the last two seasons. All Kane needed was a chance, just one chance to prove his worth and he delivered big time. If he had not then I am sure Tottenham would be lugged with an expensive signing who didn't have the consistency to play at the top of his game, ala Soldado.

Just my thoughts guys, I do wonder how many of you actually share my opinion on this though. After all, we could use the 15 million in areas we need to improve, ala left back.

Anyway, I hope the EDs are having a pleasant day and that all us fans - Yes, even you Harry - are having one equally as good.

YNWA.

LFC-S MANGO

1.) 07 Jul 2016 12:09:25
Good post. I am actually quite sad to see Ibe leave, because we all had high hopes for him, but it seems things did not work out - and he did get a chance last season, unlike many youths simply pushed into the fringes - so the deal seems good for all parties involved. Replacing him would be a bit silly, since we already got Mane in as a starter and Ojo looks like the better rated talent currently. Not to mention the Coric rumours, and Marcovic still being part of the club and perhaps getting a chance in pre-season.


2.) 07 Jul 2016 12:26:18
I agree, good post Mango. Let him go and we don't need to replace fringe players. Use our youth development, Klopp knows what he is doing. Ibe looked lost going forward for us, hope he does and wish him all the best.


3.) 07 Jul 2016 12:27:43
Good post. Shame about Ibe, he will be making the right move and under Howe who knows how far he'll go?


4.) 07 Jul 2016 12:28:54
If it's true and we get 15mln for him then it's a good deal for all parties. He gets game time and a chance to develop, we get a very good sum for reinvestment into areas where we lack (LB) and we have capable junior replacements in Markovic and/ or Ojo that hopefully get a real chance to step up with proper game time.


5.) 07 Jul 2016 12:37:27
Hope he rips it up at Bournemouth good luck to the lad, needs game time. and we need to spend the cash on Hector, I'm sure klopp will read this and think, good idea lad.


6.) 07 Jul 2016 12:47:22
Bid for hector soon then.


7.) 07 Jul 2016 13:01:48
That's exactly why you play the kids. You either get a first team player or a nice transfer fee.

Always lock them into contracts because there is always someone to sell to.

Sometimes they won't sign which is fair dos bur tour hardly going to get burnt with first pro contracts.

Ibe moves on with all the best wishes, we get 15 mil for the coffers and we now out focus on another kid, maybe ojo. Give him a season and see how he does and a kid that age with potential regardless of form for us will fetch another ten mil next year easy peasy. Then move on to the next one until you find one that is good enough fir us.

If you want to keep them but don't want to have a hand in the development then sell then with buy back options. You won't make near enough money in but you won't get biten on the ass when said player becomes ballon sore winner haha

Good luck ibey lad. No hattricks against us though.


8.) 07 Jul 2016 12:51:06
I sincerely hope we put in a buy-back clause if indeed he does leave the club this summer. He's still a young lad and learning his trade. Can't help thinking we're letting him go a little too early.

{Ed002's Note - Why the sudden obsession with buy back clauses? I am not sure Liverpool can start to look to reduce their asking prices by doing such things.}


9.) 07 Jul 2016 13:14:59
Do we not already have a replacement for him in the form of Saido Mane'? This nets this deal back to circa £15m which is perhaps commercially more of what you would of expected.

Good luck Ibe, unfortunately just didn't live up to expectations!


10.) 07 Jul 2016 13:17:56
A buy back clause is not just something you put in there for fun or to look smart. You have to have a real plan behind it like Bayern for example, had with Lahm, Kroos, Alaba and Can (who we had to match his buy back fee to sign) . The sudden LFC fans` obsession with buy back clauses makes no sense, IMO.


11.) 07 Jul 2016 13:19:39
There is no need for buy back clauses, if the lad becomes good enough we will spend the money to buy him back. As ed has said it would reduce the fee and we have sold him. What makes anyone think he would want to come back to us. Morata is a special case, forget about buy backs.
Best of luck to Ibe, he has potential but as has been said he looked completely lost any time he played last year. He had a decent spell under Rodgers but I'm not sure he has the game intelligence to use all the pace and power he possesses.


12.) 07 Jul 2016 13:52:03
I think its the emergence of ojo that has pushed this deal through. It is clear neither ibe or ojo will be a starter this season, so there is only space for one on the bench in reality.
Ojo shows a lot of promise so ibe has been moved on to give him a chance.


13.) 07 Jul 2016 14:06:21
I agree that it was time for Ibe to move on, and I think the fee is one that we can be happy with. £15m for a player who got his chance but failed to live up to expectation is fine with me. Good luck to the lad, but was time for him to move on.

I don't agree with the people saying we don't need to replace him though. Yes we got Mane, but Ibe was the only wide man we had. Mane can play out wide but he's not an out and out winger. We have a couple of good options up front and also in the "Creative Midfielder/ Number 10" roles but we don't have any pacey wide men.

Sure we have Ojo but I don't think we can expect a 19yr old to be the only option we have out wide. We need more pace and someone who can actually put a decent ball into the box.


14.) 07 Jul 2016 14:46:29
Has he actually signed yet. just says fee agreed. don't run before you can walk.


15.) 07 Jul 2016 15:25:36
Did yous not know the buy-back clause is the new black?
Just because it's being talked about as part of the Canos sale now people want it included in every single deal.
Maybe Skrtel will have a 10/ 11 type season at Fener.
Quick! Insert a buy-back clause!

Really, 15mil is a great deal for such an unproven player. Ibe is all potential. Still, I'll be sorry to see him go. I could watch his goal against WB a thousand times. Always fun to watch 3 Pulis poles hit the deck like that. :)


16.) 07 Jul 2016 16:00:27
im thinking this is the reason we signed Mane because the club was in talks to sell Ibe, it makes sense one in one out so as others have said there's no reason to go out and buy a player as imo we already have done, good luck to Jordan he will show what he is about its a pity he never got a run out with us because i'm sure his potential would have turned into talent, so good luck to him and Skertal i hope they do well in their new clubs.


17.) 07 Jul 2016 16:34:59
NorRed, you don`t replace fringe players with players that won`t play. That is senseless especially if you are trying to reduce a bloated squad like we have. We have options on the right (Mane, Milner and Lallana) so adding another player will make it 4 options and that is why we don`t need to replace him.


18.) 07 Jul 2016 17:50:26
All the best to Ibe. Hope he develops and fulfills the early potential that he showed. Playing regularly will always help.

Cheers.


19.) 07 Jul 2016 20:36:34
Don't forget Liverpool don't get 15mil for Ibe, they get just over 12mil as Wycomb get a percentage.


20.) 07 Jul 2016 23:20:20
Good luck to Ibe. He wasn't good enough and never will be. I wish him well for his future.


21.) 08 Jul 2016 05:11:36
RedOhio, I agree you shouldn't replace fringe players with ones that don't play. I think he should be replaced with a better standard of player. What good is selling players and reducing the squad if all we are left with is the players we had last season. We need to improve, we should be aiming to finish top four and with the other teams competing for those places improving we need to as well, not just trimming the fat.

Klopp will improve players the players we already have but he can't turn Milner into Messi.

I don't agree with you that lallana is a wide player though. Sure he can play there but that's not his natural position and he still doesn't add any pace to the side (which I feel we lack, other than sturridge who do we have right now? ) I think he can do a job for us but he shouldn't be starting week in week out as a wide player. Mane I agree is an option but Milner shouldn't be in the starting lineup.


22.) 08 Jul 2016 12:19:01
£15m for a guy who is still unproven, a big gamble and the question appears to be ability to deliver on his potential is a very good return. I hope he does well because he seems a likeable lad and has potential but it also seems like he isn't going to move on more with us.


23.) 09 Jul 2016 15:13:23
NorRed, I agree with you completely on Milner and Lallana. I say in fact, I wouldn`t mind if they got sold because if they are not playing and should be on the bench as you say, their wages alone will count as what we call Dead money meaning, money that isn`t working for you. If the players on stupid wages aren`t playing regularly then they should be off the books and let another club deal with them.


 

 

31 May 2016 22:52:57
The Italian media seems to think we have signed Samuel Bastien from Anderlecht for between 4.6 million and 6 million, do you know anything about this E. D?

At first I thought it was lazy journalism, a writer trying to trick people into reading his story, but the player isn't someone who would bring in views. He is a relative unknown, at least to me, and I can't recall ever seeing his name being linked with us before.

Bastien, if he signs, would clearly be one for the future as, according to the same article, he wouls be loaned out immediately after joining us. Ala Divock Origi.

Anyway, wondering if you are aware of this or even know the player because I know absolutely nothing about him. Best wishes to all of you and I hope you have a restful few weeks before the transfer window finally opens :D.

LFC-S MANGO

1.) 01 Jun 2016 08:21:36
He was playing in Serie B this season apprently.


2.) 01 Jun 2016 11:41:08
Labled the 2nd De Bryne no less. I guess this is the way now, rather then the next (insert former worldy here), it's now 'the second coming'.

Anyway, seems this could be an 'under radar' CAM over both Coric and Gotze. At 19/ 20 he can hardly be 'one for the future' looking at the age of some first team players.

This is Klopps way right? Sign young unknown players from lower sides or leagues and then create. We might see Gotze etc as 'a smokescreen', when in actual fact it's Bastian, Chilwell, Karius and a like.

I've highlighted most football clichés, but feel free to add more :)


 

 

 

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13 Sep 2017 22:43:25
Klopp has been at the club for two seasons now. He should have been able to identify areas in our game that needed improvement. The problem was clear as day, the defence. Can you say the defence has, in any way, improved since Klopp joined the club!? No, I didn't think so.

Klopp has had two years to select players for his team and to remove the deadwood. Lovren is deadwood. How Klopp hasn't moved him on, I do not know. Klopp clearly sees a weakness in our defence, otherwise, why would he go for Van Dijk. He was unable to get the Southampton man and should have moved on to look for other players of equal quality. He didn't. He allowed Lovren to return to our starting 11. Now, in 7 matches we have conceded 13 goals. We are haemorrhaging goals at an alarming rate. The danger signs were there, for the last two seasons. And, Klopp has not dealt with the problem.

Klopp has brought in a number of players for his defence. Robertson, who has had one great game and then been allowed to just stagnate despite a hectic schedule. Matip, a player who seems afraid to get involved for fear of getting hurt, lacks conviction in his decision making, dallying and allowing players to run by him. Karius, a player Klopp believes has the skills to be our number one, gives the lad a run of games and then, at the first sign of dissent from the crowd, drops him for a player that was considered unsuitable.

Then you have Moreno, the man was with us all of last season but lost his place to James Milner. Milner is an absolute professional, but, he is no defender and Klopp decided to move a centre mid into the left back position for the majority of last season. Moreno barely got a game. Then, because of a few decent games in pre-season, which I consider inconsequential, Moreno was brought back to the starting 11. Despite being absent for an entire year. Moreno still makes the same mistakes but, I will admit, he is showing signs of improvement.

Klopp deserves to take some slack. Rodgers received a heap of it, making decision that we did not agree with, playing players out of position (Which Klopp has done more and to a worse extent) and we battered him. Why does Klopp get a reprieve? What has he actually done to deserve your allegiance?

Now, before anyone jumps down my throat, I will say this. I do not believe there is a better manager, available, that could do any better than Klopp. He is, in my opinion, the right man. However, Klopp needs help. Someone needs to talk with him and advise the need for additional coaches. Obviously, a defensive coach, someone who can instruct discipline and structure. Klopp won't like it, he is a stubborn man, but it is clearly needed. Klopp does not know how to set up a team evenly, he focuses on attack. The gap between our back four and midfield has been appalling since Klopp took over. If that was seen to, and our structure was better, I believe Klopp could take us quite far. However, he needs help. If he does not accept this help then I feel we will have a repetition of poor defensive perfomance undermining our brilliant attacking displays.

I hope I am wrong, and apologies for going to long, but this is a major issue that has been on my mind for so long. I love Liverpool but they are killing me every single week. Klopp needs to be held accountable for poor performance but, rather than simply criticise, why don't the club actually help the man. At least, that is my opinion.

LFC-S MANGO

1.) 14 Sep 2017 01:03:42
Spot on. It is so disheartening to think of where we could be and achieve if we had even an average defense let alone a world class defense. To say there was NO ONE available that wasn't an improvement on what we have is laughable because nearly anyone would be. Let the youth play if nothing else! If we fail to make champions league next year for me klopp has to go. He will have had 5 transfer windows without improving the defense. He will be culpable and surely no one else can take the blame.


2.) 14 Sep 2017 03:11:37
Klopp won't accept any help. He is too stubborn and proud for that.
He has failed to grasp the fact that titles are won by having at a bare minimum a decent defence. If he feels there are very few defenders that can adapt to his ridiculous high press, then maybe he should change tactics a bit. A world class coach makes adjustments to suit the players at his disposal. At least that is what every LFC fan thought when Klopp made big promises to the owners when he got the job.
I am not frustrated with Klopp's impact so far, just disappointed. I expected better but another season of this ineptness and he might go down as the man who failed to live up to his billing as LFC manager more than Brendan himself.

{Ed001's Note - how do you know Klopp will not accept help? If he is too stubborn and proud, what do his assistants do then? Do you think they are just there to hold his coat while he does it all? This is just you having digs at Klopp now. Unfounded digs.}


3.) 14 Sep 2017 04:07:01
Hyypia may help, but Klopp won't add him, I guess.

{Ed001's Note - in what way would Hyypia help? He is a bit old to play and he showed in his stints in management no clue about coaching defences. Being a good defender does not make you a good defensive coach. The best defensive coach in recent years was George Graham but he played as an attacking midfielder.}


4.) 13 Sep 2017 23:23:24
Their second goal was a quick throw in that took out four of our players, nothing to do with coaching.


5.) 14 Sep 2017 00:03:52
Well said Mango. I think we all want klopp to succeed but regardless of how or why our defense just sucks. And we are correct to blame Klopp. I have some optimism with our young backs and even Moreno a tad but Lovren and Matio have regressed. We need to do something in the transfer market I am afraid as we have three guys who should be back ups at best and two of them are debatable whether they are even EPL quality at all.


6.) 14 Sep 2017 00:14:00
Jesus, I thought I wrote novels.
Technically Loop has only completed one full season.
Last season when we got CL.
I honestly still think he'll fix the defence by the end of next summer. It took him 2 summer windows to get out attack sorted. He has bought a great prospect in Kits for next year for midfield. Karius and Ward will fight for the keepers spot so that leaves the CB position.
It's not Football Manager on your laptop, it does take time to get in the right player. World class CBs are hard to find.


7.) 14 Sep 2017 13:02:59
Pls, people should stop projecting their opinions as facts as it is becoming pathetic. "Oh, Klopp is too stubborn" or "he won't take the help" "he's too proud" or blah, blah, blah. No one knows what is going on and no one knows if the help has been offered, if he asked for it or not. Your opinions are not facts so stop posting them as definitives. All we know is what Ed01 tells us and if you have info to prove him wrong, provide it. If you don't, then do us all a favor and stop projecting, and using it to take shots at the manager. It is cowardly and dishonest esp. if you have no clue what you are talking about.


 

 

13 Sep 2017 22:43:25
Klopp has been at the club for two seasons now. He should have been able to identify areas in our game that needed improvement. The problem was clear as day, the defence. Can you say the defence has, in any way, improved since Klopp joined the club!? No, I didn't think so.

Klopp has had two years to select players for his team and to remove the deadwood. Lovren is deadwood. How Klopp hasn't moved him on, I do not know. Klopp clearly sees a weakness in our defence, otherwise, why would he go for Van Dijk. He was unable to get the Southampton man and should have moved on to look for other players of equal quality. He didn't. He allowed Lovren to return to our starting 11. Now, in 7 matches we have conceded 13 goals. We are haemorrhaging goals at an alarming rate. The danger signs were there, for the last two seasons. And, Klopp has not dealt with the problem.

Klopp has brought in a number of players for his defence. Robertson, who has had one great game and then been allowed to just stagnate despite a hectic schedule. Matip, a player who seems afraid to get involved for fear of getting hurt, lacks conviction in his decision making, dallying and allowing players to run by him. Karius, a player Klopp believes has the skills to be our number one, gives the lad a run of games and then, at the first sign of dissent from the crowd, drops him for a player that was considered unsuitable.

Then you have Moreno, the man was with us all of last season but lost his place to James Milner. Milner is an absolute professional, but, he is no defender and Klopp decided to move a centre mid into the left back position for the majority of last season. Moreno barely got a game. Then, because of a few decent games in pre-season, which I consider inconsequential, Moreno was brought back to the starting 11. Despite being absent for an entire year. Moreno still makes the same mistakes but, I will admit, he is showing signs of improvement.

Klopp deserves to take some slack. Rodgers received a heap of it, making decision that we did not agree with, playing players out of position (Which Klopp has done more and to a worse extent) and we battered him. Why does Klopp get a reprieve? What has he actually done to deserve your allegiance?

Now, before anyone jumps down my throat, I will say this. I do not believe there is a better manager, available, that could do any better than Klopp. He is, in my opinion, the right man. However, Klopp needs help. Someone needs to talk with him and advise the need for additional coaches. Obviously, a defensive coach, someone who can instruct discipline and structure. Klopp won't like it, he is a stubborn man, but it is clearly needed. Klopp does not know how to set up a team evenly, he focuses on attack. The gap between our back four and midfield has been appalling since Klopp took over. If that was seen to, and our structure was better, I believe Klopp could take us quite far. However, he needs help. If he does not accept this help then I feel we will have a repetition of poor defensive perfomance undermining our brilliant attacking displays.

I hope I am wrong, and apologies for going to long, but this is a major issue that has been on my mind for so long. I love Liverpool but they are killing me every single week. Klopp needs to be held accountable for poor performance but, rather than simply criticise, why don't the club actually help the man. At least, that is my opinion.

LFC-S MANGO

 

 

31 Aug 2017 13:09:49
Reports coming out that Van Dijk has been seen leaving the Southampton training ground in the back of a blacked out car?

My question is simply this. how can you see someone in the back of a blacked out car!? It is blacked out, meaning you are not supposed to see in. It could be anyone.

Classic Sky Sports reporting. Will release any story if it gets people to place bets on their website. Spread news that goes against what they actually know or believe will happen.

What a world we live in.

LFC-S MANGO

1.) 31 Aug 2017 13:22:01
going to for a maccies drive thru.


2.) 31 Aug 2017 13:24:45
It was his car. so assume going home from training. He has held further discussions with Saints today - maybe they went well? if not I'm sure we will be in touch. But very time poor at the moment.

End of the day VVD want a WC place for Holland therefore he will have to play at some point and the Saints know this!


3.) 31 Aug 2017 13:26:11
It was his own car he left in.


4.) 31 Aug 2017 13:37:40
Why wasn't he driving his own car?


 

 

29 Aug 2017 16:33:36
Sounds like Mamadou Sakho has finally got his move away from Liverpool. He will join Crystal Palace by the end of the transfer window.

The deal is worth an initial £20m with add-ons rising to 30 million, which was Liverpool's original price. Good piece of business, in my opinion.

Now I have my fingers crossed for Van Dijk, Thomas Lemar, Coutinho staying and Lazar Markovic being sold for around 15 million. Hopefully good things come to those who wait because we have all been waiting a while for something good to happen since Salah joined :D.

LFC-S MANGO

1.) 29 Aug 2017 16:36:12
Why do you want Coutinho to stay?


2.) 29 Aug 2017 16:49:41
Because we need a good squad, with depth and quality.

Coutinho would be perfect for cup games and to fill in for any of our front 3 in case they get injured :P.


3.) 29 Aug 2017 17:33:06
Goalkeepers
Mignolet, Karius, Ward.

Defenders
Matip, Lovren, Klavan, Gómez, Clyne, A. Arnold, Moreno, Robertson, ( Van dijk, Flanagan, Sakho )

Middlefields
Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Grujic, ( Coutinho, Lemar )

Forwards

Mane, Salah, Firmino, Sturridge, Solanke, Woodburn ( Origi, Kent, Markovic )


 

 

16 Aug 2017 00:04:22
I have never been more terrified of watching Liverpool matches than when Lovren is playing. My god that man is a disaster waiting to happen.

He lunges into tackles when left completely isolated, drops back to player offensive players onside and has the co-ordination of a drunk zebra in stilts.

If this man is still our starting centre back by the end of this Transfer window. then we are in serious trouble. Lovren is decent enough to be back up, nothing more. We cannot expect our offensive players to score 3 or more goals every game just to compensate for a plentiful of conceded goals.

Also, placing Moreno and Lovren together is a recipe for disaster. Neither player understands the other or even communicates. Both are rash, although Moreno seems to be improving in this aspect, and get caught out of position so often.

It is obvious to see that Moreno is improving, if not slowly and steadily, but Lovren is still the same panicky, lazy player that we have seen for years. That sliding tackle in the second half, when he could have just held the player up, was appalling. It was nothing more than lazy, not bothered to follow the run so instead I'll make desperate lung and, if he gets away, I'll just say I tried my best.

We need a new centre back, pronto. Preferably someone who has leadership qualities, someone that will command his back line, keep them focused and ready, because not a single person in our back line can do this. They all look tentative and afraid to speak out.

Hell, the last player to install confidence in our back line was Carragher. and he was in his mid thirties and slower than ever. At least Carra ordered the players around, no doubt certain team mates resented him for getting on their backs but you need these kind of players. Someone to keep the troops in line, wake them up if needed.

I am hopeful Klopp and the transfer committee have a player in mind if it is not Van Dijk. If we stick with Lovren. then it will be the death of our push for top 4. You cannot win while carrying a player like this. it will only end in disappointment.

LFC-S MANGO

1.) 16 Aug 2017 01:42:47
If he's not good enough to start, he shouldn't be there at all as it weakens the squad.

There should be hard competition in the squad for the jersey, as that is how you improve, through struugle to better your rival.

In A tricky European away tie We got the vital away goal advantage to bring back to Anfield,

But we are miles away from us keeping a clean sheet.

Worried. com.


2.) 16 Aug 2017 04:08:36
Brutally truthful and I whole heartedly agree. We got the win but result could have been horrible. The squad needs 1st team players to improve upon last year's team.


3.) 16 Aug 2017 04:10:13
agreed on Lovren but Moreno is improving? how many times he completely out of position today? man I don't have enough fingers to count.


4.) 16 Aug 2017 04:28:10
Couldn't agree more but there ain't no business happening here mate so suck it up lovren is here to stay.


5.) 16 Aug 2017 04:44:23
Moreno has a nightmare but Lovren was partly responsible for that. The number of times LOvren got outsmarted and someone went past him could have cost us 5 goals last night. Sorry to say this but he has to go, along with Klavan. Fail to sign a CB in this window, then Klopp should go too.


6.) 16 Aug 2017 08:17:18
Again Lovren being hammered, did you guys not watch Matip? He was shocking again, yes Lovren was poor but I think Matip was worst, again.
Both need to be replaced in my opinion if we are ever to challenge for the title for a full season.


7.) 16 Aug 2017 08:28:33
Lovren was far worse so so rash in the tackle his positioning is much worse.


 

 

 

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31 Aug 2017 14:29:02
Option to buy!?!?!

Have you lost the plot mate. Why would we sell one of our best young prospects leave us before he can mature into a decent player!?!?

And, no. Rangers!?!?! Woodburn needs to play for a better side, no offense to Rangers, but the Scottish league is far from competitive.

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30 Aug 2017 16:12:33
Well, if Liverpool are unable to bring in a centre back then there is a very good chance my computer will be thrown out the window.

If we do very good business, with a couple of very good signings, that include a centre back, then there is a every chance I will jump out of my window, completely naked, and sprint around my neighbourhood with the police and my girlfriend chasing me down trying to stop me.

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14 Jul 2017 22:24:27
Wives?

Lucky man ;)

I raise a glass to you, sir.

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14 Jul 2017 18:35:42
Great signings if they happen, I have many questions over the fees and such, but considering how crazy this transfer window has been I can accept that. After all, after Man City spent 50 million on an average Kyle Walker, I have no doubts fees will continue to soar to ridiculous lengths. This transfer window has been utterly ridiculous. Football has been taken over by money, I used to believe that youth development and patience had its place in Football, but those times are no more. A shame.

Keita, happy with this signing, although I'm wondering who will leave considering how many centre mid we already have at the club. We are overloaded with them.

Van Dijk, fingers crossed this turns out to be the big signing that we have needed in the centre of defence. He's a big lad, quick and is very comfortable on the ball. Issues with concentration, etc, but a definite upgrade on Lovren and possibly even Matip. Although, we now have three centre backs with suspect injury history (less so in Dijk's case) and Joe Gomez might very well be considering his options.

Robertson, stupid signing. He is suspect in every department, but Klopp clearly sees something in the lad, believes that are tools he can develop. Let's hope so, otherwise, it will be another season of Milner (I love the guy for his work ethic and willingness to play out of position) cutting onto his right foot when a left footed cross is the preferred option.

Great job Macca. You have been a great source of information. I wish you all the best to you and your family.

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01 Jul 2017 12:07:42
I can not, for the life of me, understand this decision.

Surely this will have an effect on Danny Ward's development?

He has spent the last year and a half playing regularly, developing his skills and experience, and has progressed from Leagues that were meant to be a gradual increase, in order to prepare him for life in the Premier League. I thought that was the plan.

Now, Huddersfield are in the Premier League. This should be the big test, to see if he is ready for the rigours of the league, but, instead of doing what is so obvious. We are bringing him back to sit in the stands and possibly play a few matches in the U23's!? How does that make any kind of sense!?

Loris Karius could hardly get a game last season, a player Klopp has made a number of promises to, I believe. I can not recall Alex Manniger, the third choice keeper, ever playing a single game for us. In fact, I don't believe he ever did.

So, how does it make any sense to put Danny Ward in this position!? To undo all his hard work, while out on loan. By the time Klopp decides Ward could do with another loan, it is likely that Huddersfield would have already brought in a new Goal Keeper. Meaning another closed avenue for development.

I cannot understand why we don't just use Kamil Grabara, or one of our other young Goalkeepers, to fill in as third choice but also play regularly for the U23's. It would be a great experience for them, to train and, on the rather occasion, play in matches with the first team. If you cannot bring someone older, who has experience and pedigree on his side, then why not turn to the youth?

I really hope we don't end up alienating Ward and losing him in the next Transfer Window because I believe the boy has the potential to be a very good option for us. However, with Mignolet first choice and impressing, Loris Karius being promised all kinds of thing, where does that really leave Ward!?

In all honesty, in order to further his career, I think Ward needs to leave on a permanent transfer. It pains me to say this because I have nothing but respect for the man's abilities and mindset, but perhaps it would be best for all parties if Ward was to be sold.

I don't know how other people feel, but, I believe this might be the best course of action for the young lad.

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13 Sep 2017 22:08:30
Gomez had a decent game, he is young, he should be allowed to make mistakes and figure out things as he plays. It is the way most footballer's mature.

However, one thing Gomez needs to stop doing, immediately, is pulling his opponent back. It is so blatant and a yellow card every time. The first yellow was a tug if he had avoided that, he would not have been sent off. Kid needs to learn this but he has time. Show some patience, it is always harder to develop as a defender than a midfield or attacker. In my opinion, at least.

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09 Sep 2017 15:43:44
Now, come on.

You can clearly see the Man City Keeper go in with the intent to hurt Mane's foot with his head. Shocking decision :P.

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03 Sep 2017 18:55:32
I believe Emre would have to have spent some time in our youth system for us to receive any compensation. As he did not, Emre leaves on a free and can sign a pre-contract in January.

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03 Sep 2017 14:55:59
Wassa-lfc.

That is the best comment I have read on this site. You are absolutely right. Can has been a great player for us and, unlike Coutinho, has made himself available for every single match even through injury. The lad should be applauded not hung out to dry. If he leaves then that is a real, real shame. But, while he was with us, he gave us nothing but 100% every time. So, if his contract does run out and he leaves then I will be very sad. But, I will say nothing but good things about him.

I hope Can stays but, with the new additions to the squad, especially Keita, it looks like we are already prepared for his leaving. Also, Can is not moving to a rival in our league (Ala Tevez) and is being eyed by a side who made it into the Champions League final and won their league. I understand why such a move would be enticing.

All we can do is hope now but, if Can does leave, then I will be the first to wish him the best and thank him for his conduct and performances while in a Liverpool shirt.

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31 Aug 2017 20:04:22
I have no issues with Joe Gomez. I am very happy that he will get a chance in centre back and right back both this season and going forward. However, Lovren and Klavan.

Those are the two names that strike fear into my heart and they are both closer than Gomez to the centre back position. How can these two, Lovren in particular, be our second and third choice if we wish to push for a top 4 place!?

How is Lovren, the most inconsistent and error stricken centre back in the whole league, supposed to shore up our defence!? He is a liability, the fact that we have failed to strengthen in his position is incompetence of the highest order. We wasted months waiting for Southampton to decide Van Dijk's fate when they clearly said he would not be leaving. We had no backup option, ala Salah for Brandt.

We sent out feelers to Koulibaly and Mammama but they both came to nothing. So, it seems we have decided to stick with Lovren instead. That is just great. Fantastic news.

Now, Salah, Mane and Firmino have to score 3 or 4 goals every single game to stand a chance of winning matches. Lovren will always cost us goals, Mignolet also has it in him, Klavan is unreliable, Gomez is young but because of this lacks concentration at times, Matip is a good defender who at times looks poor because he is having to cover areas that both Lovren and Moreno have vacated.

It is so poor from Liverpool, in regards to strengthening a well-known weakness. Bringing in Salah and Solanke is great for squad depth, Coutinho staying could go either way depending on how he behaves this season. Although, personally, I want Coutinho gone. He has disrespected this club and behaved appallingly by feigning injury and not making himself available for important matches. The little rat will be welcomed back with open arms by the fans though and, in all honesty, I cannot understand why. Good, great player even, but he cannot be trusted.

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