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21 Apr 2017 19:22:40
Evening eds

Don't know if this has been mentioned, but a friend of mine has said that thetes a lot of talk between the Leeds fans that Liverpool have serious interest in Chris wood.

Have you heard anything?

Cherrs.

LAVERS

{Ed025's Note - bloody hell lavers if liverpool are interested in wood then they are scraping the bottom of the barrel mate..


1.) 22 Apr 2017 02:13:27
Like reading a 90s version of shoot magazine.


2.) 22 Apr 2017 03:01:54
Some of these rumours at the moment make us look like a side fighting relegation, £8m Andrew Robertson another one today. Hopefully they are all just for clicks.


3.) 23 Apr 2017 15:40:06
He can't see the Woods for the trees .


 

 

01 Mar 2016 06:12:30
Morning ed

Is there any chance off putting up an update on players which we are looking at please?

As I can't seem to find the one you did the other week, it would be much appreciated thankyou.

LAVERS

{Ed002's Note - I think this should give you something to chew on for a while.

Before we get in to discussing players there are a three things which are relevant to what happens leading up to the summer. Firstly, folks (including Klipperty) must make a decision about the loan players as the club cannot keep adding to the first team squad and then expect to bring the loan players back in to it as well. Secondly, fans need to step back from any thoughts about there being some baseball (“moneyball”) related transfer policy at the club - complete red herring. All clubs look to buying and developing youngsters with the purpose of using them. If they don't use them for whatever reason they would obviously like a return on their investment, but it is not a driver to buying young players. Equally there needs to be a mix of experience the team in order to deal with the rigours of soccerball at the highest level - hence the likes of Milner and Lallana were purchased by Liverpool. And to confirm this it is not "policy" to buy young and cheap to sell at a profit, you then need to look at what Liverpool has paid for some of these youngsters. Firmino is the best example from the batch there at present - €41M potentially rising to €50M for a player that no German side were interested in buying from Hoffenheim at his €25M release clause.

Finally, a timely reminder as to how the Liverpool transfer process works. The manager will have discussed the players he would like to bring in with the transfer committee throughout the season and scouts will bring other names to the table via Barry Hunter and Dave Fallows. These would all be looked at by Michael Edwards and his team and perhaps then a refined list could be considered. When it comes to the financial side and any approaches to other clubs it will be up to Mr Ayre to investigate the availability of players negotiate and subsequently agents and clubs. Mr Gordon will, overall, be responsible for providing input from the perspective of the owners and from an overall standpoint of the club.

Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.}

The fans tend to see giant holes across the squad and often have distorted views - "we need a striker", "Mignolet has to go", "Can makes too many mistakes", "Lucas has to be moved on", "Moreno is not a good defender", "we must get four new centre backs", "Ilori is the greatest footballer of all time" etc.. Coaches and managers take in to consideration how a squad is built and how teams work together - they will look more at the group than individuals - and then they will look to individuals who can improve that group. Fans tend not to see that and simply crave "marquee" signings. It is a long way to go still. Rebuilding and make large numerical changes year-on-year has not suited Liverpool in the past - I doubt it will next summer either.

Some of this will change by the summer and there are major dependencies on (a) players leaving, and (b) how much money the club can raise through sales. However, there is known to be (or have recently been) some level of interest in the following players fairly recently:

Goalkeeper:

The money was never going to be there last summer for an expensive goalkeeper given the significant spending (and over-spending) on other players. The club were clearly happy with Mignolet and never tried to replace him. I am not sure that anything has changed much in the few months Klipperty has been around and I would be very surprised if a decision has been taken this early to replace him next summer. Mignolet has been given a new contract so a move is not likely. The club has, as I have previously explained, looked at another goalkeeper since Klipperty arrived and they have continued to look at other players from a scouting perspective. But right now this does not mean too much and please don't read too much in to it. Liverpool are are likely browsing and tyre kicking like many other clubs.

Real Betis' Antonio Adan returned to Spain after citing problems settling in Italy. He has certainly attracted the attention of scouts from a number of teams this season with Everton, Southampton, Marseille, Sunderland and Newcastle all paying attention as far as Betis understand. I am not aware of any declared interest from Liverpool although he has been scouted. The club will certainly be looking for a replacement for Bogdan in the summer and Adan would give Mignolet a better run for his money. Adan would also be much cheaper than ter Stegen who seems to be the one the supporters want. Marseille may drop their interest in the light of something going on in the background. If Sunderland were to be relegated then I would discount them. What I don't know is if the player would want to leave southern Spain for England.}

Patricio has been looked at before and has been looked at again (on more than one occasion this season – pre and post Klipperty but that will not be of relevance) - it does't mean there is particular interest but they are keeping him in mind - certainly not a January option.

Marseille's Steve Mandanda is out of contract in the summer and Marseille would ideally like a new deal. They would not to sell in January as it would have given them a goalkeeping issue they don't want. There has been no approach made to Marseille by Liverpool but he could be considered going forward. Won’t be interested in being anything other than first choice.

Asking price for ter Stegen is sky high for a player who has hardly played the last couple of years. The player wants to stay in Barcelona and is looking to new opportunities there next season, but critically he wants guarantees of playing time and is asking the club rather than the manager about this. There is no secret that Manchester City has declared an interest with Barcelona and have indeed made an offer, but with Joe Hart there I cannot see his situation would be any better other than for the money. Liverpool will certainly be looking for a replacement for Bogdan in the summer - and someone who would give Mignolet a run for his money. Adan has been of interest amd would also be much cheaper than ter Stegen who seems to be the one the supporters want. Barcelona has admitted the interest of Manchester City, but not at this time Liverpool - but that could change.

My advice would be for Liverpool to look at Begovic.

Right Back:

Not entirely out of the question but where would a new right back fit with Clyne, Flanagan, Wisdom?:

Included as someone recently mentioned him: I think if Liverpool did have any interest in Ola Aina and were able to speak to the player, and critically, offer him first team football guarantees then something can be done. It strikes me as unlikely that the club would be willing to make such a commitment. A couple of clubs have approached Chelsea about him - although Liverpool isn't one. Napoli had an offer of a loan turned down in the summer and Monaco were looking to Aina as cover for Fabinho who they may lose.

Centre Back:

With Toure leaving in the summer Liverpool are interested in strengthening the centre back position. With the addition of Matip and Ilori returning from loan it will still likely take a couple to leave if there is to be a further addition – but I suspect Subotic is yet to be fully out of the picture.

Dortmund will be willing to let Neven Subotic, who has been of interest to Spartak Moscow and Arsenal, leave in the summer. I suspect the interest of Arsenal has moved on but I would not rule out an offer being made by Hamburg, Hannover or Liverpool. He will be avialable at a good price and he is a player who Klopp has worked with at his two previous clubs.

Schalke's Joel Matip will join in the summer.

PSGs Lamine Ba has been of interest to Liverpool but he would be an unlikely addition to the first team squad.

Left Back:

With Moreno, Smith and Gomez (to return) and even with Enrique to depart at some point Liverpool are persisting in looking at young left backs.

Lorient left-back Raphael Guerreiro has been of previous interest to Newcastle, Milan, Arsenal, PSG, Manchester City and Sampdoria. Marseille, Liverpool, Sunderland and Swansea have had watched the player this season - whilst an Arsenal scout says they may look again. Liverpool interest would come to the fore only if Moreno were to leave.

Leicester’s Ben Chilwell has been attracting the attention of a number of sides with Arsenal, Brighton & Hove Albion, Liverpool and Norwich all attending Huddersfield Town games to watch the loanee after he impressed in the academy last season. Spurs and Newcastle have also been keeping a watchful eye. However, to cover for an injury, Claudio Ranieri has recalled Chilwell but matters are seemingly being taken out of his hands as Arsenal has made a formal approach to Leicester about a January transfer. Leicester fought off that approach but will have to do the same in the summer.

Out of contract in the summer, Besiktas' Ismail Koybasi is attracting the attention of Valencia and has been watched by Empoli, Shakhtar Donetsk and Dinamo Kiev. There is an unconfirmed suggestion by the player's representative that Manchester United and Liverpool are interested in him.

Approaches to the MLS have been made by Genk, Reading and Shimizu S-Pulse in respect of LA Galaxy's Gyasi Zardes. I suspect the interest of Liverpool left with Rodgers.}

Defensive Midfield:

Liverpool will have the option of playing Grujic in a holding midfield position if the wish and have Lucas, Emre Can the well respected Rossiter and even Pedro Chirivella who could play there. I don’t see an immediate problem but they have certainly looked at players.

Liverpool had scouts at a Porto match (against Maccabi Tel Aviv) - I don't know who they were looking at as several Porto players are attracting attention (Martins Indi, Brahimi and Neves) but the suggestion it was Porto's Ruben Neves. Asenal were present at the same match and against Dinamo Kyev, and may well be interested in Neves - however, the outrageous asking price might well scare them off.

Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona Napoli, Liverpool, Arsenal and Juventus have all shown an interest in teenage Ajax midfield player Riechedly Bazoer. Napoli has made an offer but taking advice from a third party who provides consultancy for one of the interested sides, the player is keen to stay at Ajax and bide his time (hoping Barcelona come calling rather than just looking). I suspect the interest from all sides will continue but he was not one for January. In order to avoid a subsequent summer auction, Chelsea has opened discussions with Ajax about how a transfer may be possible. They are willing to include a player if that helps but are aware that Manchester City are likely to soon make an approach as well.

Liverpool showed interest in Borussia Monchengladbach’s Nordtveit back in January 2012. It was suggested in Germany in 2012 that Arsenal might look to buy the player back at one time, that the interest of Sunderland would lead to an offer. However, he is out of contract at the end of the season and the only side who has shown a real interest so far is Borussia Dortmund - but unlike non Bundesliga sides, they cannot approach him at this time. West Brom, West Ham and Southampton have watched him but my understanding is that none have requested to speak to the player. Monchengladbach are still keen on a new deal with him. Any suggested interest from Liverpool right now seems to me to be wide of the mark but he will be out of contract in the summer.

Malaga are very keen to sell Ignacio Camacho but refuse to reduce their €20M asking price. Previous interest from both Atletico Madrid and Napoli has gone due to his persistent injury problems and the hopes of Inter Milan were dashed by the asking price - although they were willing to take a risk on a loan with an option to buy deal given the players repeated injury issues - although he is currently fit and playing. I have no idea what he would be doing at Melwood - as far as I know they have not made any approach to his club which would make a meeting a potential major issue for the club. If they have been given permission to ship him to Liverpool for a look around the medical facilities when he should be training with his club then that seems a little surprising. Malaga laughed off all suggestion that the player visited Melwood.

Midfield:

I don't think there are any plans for Lucas to leave right now and with Henderson, Can, Lucas, Milner, Stewart, Allen, Brannagan, Rossiter and Chrivella all playing in an area (where only two would typically start) and Grujic arriving I am not sure it will be the priority area where the club will look to make changes in the summer. I do however agree that Allen may well leave. If Lucas were also to leave and a decision made not to promote any of the youngsters then perhaps the club would look to this as more of a priority. However, a little side note regarding one of the normally ignored players that may well be impacted by this move – Allan. He got another loan for Allan in January and there is a slim chance that he might be able to get a work permit later in 2016 - getting called in to the International U20 side would be a boost. But even that could be touch and go and if he doesn't get one then there is a problem in that he could end up not being eligible to play as a home grown player - then we are in to a big decision being made. Right now Liverpool is not well structured for looking after such players - something I would hope that they can address – but the addition of Grujic makes Allan’s long-term future as a Liverpool player in doubt.

Norwich's Todd Cantwell has attracted the interest of Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle.

Liverpool, along with Manchester United, Stoke and in Particular Bournemouth, are looking at Leeds' Lewis Cook.

Granit Xhaka signed a new long-term contract but there was interest from Napoli, Atletico Madrid and Inter in January. Previous interest from Stoke and Everton is gone. Newcastle, Valencia, Manchester City, Spurs, Napoli and Arsenal have scouted the player this season and any would likely continue that interest with a bid if he were available. I can completely discount Inter at this time and although interested Atletico are needing to plan very carefully knowing that they have a significant issue on the horizon. Borussia Monchengladbach made it very clear that he would not move in January and that is what was told to Napoli when they made an approach to the club. I am not aware of Liverpool either directly tapping up the player nor approaching his father as the Liverpool fans have been suggesting nor am I aware of him being announced prior to any European game by Liverpool. In the coming months we will likely see Manchester City, Arsenal and Napoli posturing regarding Xhaka.

Manchester United, CSKA Moscow and Liverpool were all impressed with the scouting reports on Shakhtar Donetsk's Viktor Kovalenko.

Manchester City had a sustained interest in Piotr Zielinski but Udinese didn't want to sell him and over the summer they stepped back from their pursuit of him. Certainly he will not be moving in January but a number of clubs have looked at him whilst on loan at Empoli including Brighton, Liverpool, Napoli, Roma, Auxerre, Young Boys and Bayer Leverkusen.

The constantly fishing agent of Rubin Kazan's Magomed Ozdoev has said Schalke, Bayer Leverkusen, Liverpool and Spurs have watched the player this season. Previously he said that Dortmund, Lyon, Basel and Spartak Moscow are interested in the player. Tough to see a move to England happening.

Attacking Midfield:

Liverpool has plenty of options for attacking midfield players. I don’t expect anything to happen much in the summer

Gillingham's Bradley Dack has drawn scouts from Bristol City, Newcastle, Arsenal, Brighton, Liverpool, Ipswich Town and Spurs to watch him this season. Gillingham rejected an offer from Bristol City in January. Liverpool are certainly interested and did manage a couple of goals when watched by Liverpool and Ipswich representatives. I would not be surprised to see a premier league offer for Dickory.

Interest in Anderlecht's Dennis Praet has run hold and cold for a while and the likes of Ajax, Everton, Southampton, Hoffenheim and Dynamo Moscow have moved on in the past year. Both Sevilla and Valencia had offers rejected in the summer whilst Aston Villa were also being kept informed by Anderlecht of any approaches for the player, but there is no way the player will want to move there and they won't have that sort of money to spend on one player. Juventus were represented at a couple of games but were, I understand, unconvinced by the player - but I suspect interest will continue knowing that his value might well tumble as his contract is running down. Fiorentina has had several meetings with representatives of the player and Anderlecht - and were seemingly getting to the point where an agreement over a January transfer could be reached but interest in another player has given them an unexpected twist to deal with and they are now out of the picture. Arsenal has again looked at him in recent weeks, once they knew that there could be a January bid from elsewhere, but I am not aware of them taking it any further just yet. I understand that Liverpool are again interested in the Praet, and it is a player Klipperty would like. Praet may well provide more versatility than others as he has the ability to play as a winger as well as an attacking midfield player. Borussia Dortmund has also been showing recent interest.

Schalke rejected bids from Spurs and Stoke for Leroy Sane in the summer of 2015. A number of clubs from across Europe have had the player watched in the first and reserve sides towards the end of last season and at the start of this - including Manchester United, Barcelona, Sunderland, Manchester City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayer Leverkusen, PSG, West Ham and RBL. Do not discount a bid from Manchester City in the summer after an approach was pushed back in January - where they were loathe to meet the potential asking price, even though they were willing to make a very significant offer. Know Manchester City know that a bid from Barcelona is imminent and that will be immediately followed by a bid from Real Madrid as the three clubs battle over a summer move. As to whether he is ready just yet, no, probably not. There is the potential to yet again see a great talent squashed (at least for a year or two).

Milan have enquired about the availability of Palermo's Franco Vazquez and were told that he would be allowed to leave in the summer if an offer of more than €30M were made. That would be enough to scare off Inter and Sevilla who have looked at him since the beginning of the season. Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs have scouted the player this season with Juventus Liverpool and Manchester United showing increased interest recently, but Milan seem confident a move will happen in the summer.}

Winger:

Clearly Liverpool have been looking in particular at wingers with their scouting and that in itself may sound the death knell for Markovic. With Ibe, Ojo and Canos on the books in addition to several players like Milner, Origi and even Lallana and Firmino who are comfortable in those positions - and youngsters like Kent, it seems some sort of reshuffle will be necessary. Liverpool don’t seem to have honed in on one target but they are certainly looking.

Georges-Kevin N'Koudou of Marseille - perhaps a youngster for the summer for one of the many clubs who have looked at him - including Crystal Palace, Valerncia, Southampton, West Ham, Liverpool and Manchester United. Marseille would certainly be open to a very high and over the odds offer.

Manchester City, Atletico, Spurs and Valencia have all previously declared an interest in Gokhan Tore with Atletico having made two offers to take him as a replacement for Arda Turan in the summer. I would think any Manchester City bid is dependent on David Silva moving on and that has gone for now. Valencia will probably not now follow up on their interest. Spurs interest remains. Additionally, Besiktas has said that Arsenal has again watched the player. However, they have said that they are not looking to sell him over the winter window but are open to further discussions over making an agreement for a summer move to Atletico Madrid - and further discussions are scheduled but Atletico accept that the summer is a more likely time for a move but are also aware good performances at the Euros will boost his price - hence they would like to agree the framework for a deal now. Besiktas have not been approached by West Ham United with any offer to take Tore back to London. but have admitted that Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal (again) have watched the player before the holidays.

PSG may well be less willing to let Moura move as he has now settled better in France - but it took a very long time. An attempt was made to strike a deal for Lucas Moura to make a return to Sao Paulo on loan in January 2015, but PSG pulled the plug as discussions dragged on. Juventus had declared interest if he becomes available but baulked at the €40M asking price they were given. Spurs and Liverpool did manage to scout him recently, although he has been starting from the bench a lot this season. Whilst his agent has spoken to Arsenal about him, the player himself is now keen to stay in Paris, and having settled, PSG will likely support that. As such, I suspect a summer move to be unlikely.

Partizan Belgrade's Andrija Zivkovic has been of sustained interest to Atletico Madrid and Chelsea with Real Madrid, Valencia, Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Spurs, Benfica and Cagliari all watching the player. Chelsea were looking to sign Zivkovic in the summer and send him on loan, and Real Madrid has made similar advances that were also rebuffed. But it is Atletico who were probably best placed to complete a January deal - but could not get by complex ownership issues involving Pini Zahivi needing to be resolved first. One to watch for the summer.

According to his father, Liverpool, Celtic and Munich 1860 are interested in Dinamo Zagreb's Davor Lovren, brother to Dejan. He plays in the reserve team and I have no idea how much, if any, interest Liverpool have in him. He would be one for the future.

Ajax will look to keep Anwar El Ghazi from interested parties for perhaps one or two years. Bayern Munich, Milan, Liverpool, Manchester United, Leicester, Atletico and Chelsea have all declared an interest. The player has said he wants to play for Real Madrid. Chelsea were to put an offer on the table in the summer and would have been willing to leave him with Ajax for up to two years. However a third party advisor to Chelsea blocked any move at that time citing the player as still being inconsistent and wanting longer to consider whether or not Chelsea should progress a move for the player who he thinks could "disappear" very easily at a higher level, and particularly in England - this was the same person who said Depay was not ready this summer. Arsenal have now had him watched in a match against Vitesse Arnhem - whether that will manifest itself as interest or not is unclear right now. Milan, who had a January bid rejected, will use income from El Shaarawy to explore again if a deal can be done and have appointed a third party to act on their behalf.

Odd's Rafik Zekhnini is a player that van Gaal tried to take to Manchester United in the summer whilst PSV, Dortmund and, I understand, Liverpool have all been taking a look at him this season.

Striker:

Liverpool has Sturridge, Firmino, Origi, Benteke, Ings and Sinclair in the first team squad with Balotelli, Yesil and Awoniyi out on loan – a striker is not really needed at this time even with Balotelli, Yesil and probably Sinclair moving on.

As Real Madrid prepare for a potential transfer ban they have spoken with Monaco regarding Kylian Mbappé (who cannot sign a professional contract until December 2016) about an agreement to possibly recruit him in 2017. A number of clubs have been watching him including Barcelona, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Bayer Leverkusen, Rennes, Marseille and PSG, but next January might be a better time for a move. Arsenal are talking to Monaco about options.

Stade Rennais' Paul Georges Ntep has been of interest to Stoke, Monaco, QPR, Bordeaux and Montpellier. Marseille, Bayern Munich, Southampton, Atletico, Spurs, Liverpool, Saint-Étienne, Chelsea, Arsenal, Lille and Manchester City are known to have watched the player earlier this season. But only Stoke has made a firm offer and a recent approach by Monaco was rebuffed by the player himself who wants a year more at Rennes to ensure that when he moves it will be for first team football - very sensible. PSG will very probably push in the summer.}

Sporting Lisbon are open to selling Islam Slimani at the right price and the prior interest of West Ham and Crystal Palace has been revived. Previous interest from Fiorentina, Napoli, Fenerbahce, Aston Villa, Spurs, Norwich and Bordeaux appears to have gone. Leicester, Shalke, Bayer Leverkusen, Liverpool, Udinese, Everton and Borussia Dortmund have scouted the player recently. If an offer close to the asking price is made it is possible a deal can be done this Summer for the striker. They were asking close to €30M and rejected a €17M offer from an English side out of hand in January. So perhaps €25M would work. Liverpool will likely not pursue their interest.

No doubt much will change in the coming months.}


1.) 01 Mar 2016 08:37:50
Thanks Ed.


2.) 01 Mar 2016 10:07:38
Much appreciated ed thanks.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


3.) 01 Mar 2016 10:07:38
Much appreciated ed thanks.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


4.) 01 Mar 2016 14:05:10
Thank you ed002 after that no one should ask you any more as its all there.


5.) 01 Mar 2016 15:22:05
Thank you very much Ed. So essentially, it is complicated to sign players and we have too many squad players. Klopp needs to see who he has faith in before he (and the committee) buy?

{Ed002's Note - The club cannot simply add players without other leaving, the squad is already bloated.}


6.) 01 Mar 2016 19:55:38
Ed002 Truly outstanding post. Great read kept it in my favourites folder to refer back too.


 

 

30 Jan 2016 13:49:13
Afternoon eds

I read ed02s latest on players we have been watching, but who if anyone do you think we could get this window?

Cheers.

LAVERS

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to trying to tie anything to timescales, but out of the players I listed NKoudou was watched again by Liverpool scouts (joined by representation of Southampton now) but Marseille do not expect anything to happen this month. A bid for Nolito would not be out of the question.}


1.) 30 Jan 2016 14:21:19
Buy Nkoudou off Saints in 6 moths time then 😄.


2.) 30 Jan 2016 14:22:08
Cheers ed

I appreciate not getting into timescales as things change fast, just seeing if we would see any movement in the next couple of days.

Thanks again.


3.) 30 Jan 2016 14:32:19
Ron, that's crazy, but true! Liverpool!


4.) 30 Jan 2016 14:32:19
Ron, that's crazy, but true! Liverpool!


5.) 30 Jan 2016 15:08:52
I think we'd be better keeping the wallet closed if the option is Nolito and waiting til the summer as he's not going to be better than the options we already have.


6.) 30 Jan 2016 17:05:20
Mr dennis have you ever seen nolito play? He's won the most motm awards in la Liga this season tied with Neymar. He'd definitely get in to our team.


7.) 30 Jan 2016 17:25:59
Yes Nolito is good player but with Barcelona looking for him, will he be int to come here?


8.) 30 Jan 2016 17:46:45
Samikewell, he doesn't want to sit on the bench at Barcelona so I'd say we have a good chance with him.


9.) 30 Jan 2016 21:21:50
Sorry but disagree about Nolito, he's 29 and at the wrong end of his career. I've seen him and am not exactly overwhelmed, I'd rather we didn't spend money on him which would be a waste given his age, I honestly don't think he'll add anything that we don't already have.


10.) 31 Jan 2016 01:49:09
Interesting tip Ed. Thanks. Klopp does seem to have been looking out for a left sided forward.
I guess we'd better get busy slagging him off for being slow and old and hamstrung and a bit too handsome to be successful at Liverpool.

Certainly no player who's over 25, costs less than 50 billion and has one name could possibly make a difference to our team this season.
It's not like his 35 goals and 21 assists in 2 1/ 2 seasons says anything. And the fact that Klopp and Enrique rate him is certainly no indicator of him having quality.


11.) 31 Jan 2016 11:26:58
He's too old as he'll be 30 this year, you could only justify bringing him in if he was a nailed on world class player like a Robben or a Suarez, which he is nowhere near. I would be dissapointed if we bring him in as its a badly thought out quick fix and isn't a player we need. In fact it makes no sense as he's another number 10 type and we've loads of them if that's not escaped your notice.


 

 

19 Mar 2015 09:03:48
Morning ed

Any truth in the salvio rumours, if so I'd imagine it being sterlings replacement at that price.

Also what about the papadopoulous rumours, or is that just recycled news?

LAVERS

{Ed002's Note - Benfica have made it clear that they will be willing to let Salvio leave if any club match the release clause that Portuguese clubs would need to pay. €60million is not insignificant. The player's representatives want that reduced to €40M but he would need to then take a pay cut which he is not prepared to do. Zenit St Pete and Manchester United have both kept a watching brief but neither would want to get involved at the asking price. I am not aware of Liverpool having a spare €60M right now. He very nearly moved to Everton a couple of years ago.

There was previous interest from Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Dortmund but all of these clubs walked away due to cost or injury and they all purchased other centre backs. I don't understand why the Liverpool fans are asking about him again - perhaps this is something in a newspaper or ion Twitter, but I am not aware of interest at this time - particularly from a club that is overrun with centrebacks.}


1.) 19 Mar 2015 09:41:24
Just paper talk regarding papa, didn't think we would look at again but at €7mil maybe not a bad shout.

{Ed002's Note - The club already has well respected young centre backs like Lloyd Jones and Paez who cannot get in to the side in addition to first team centre backs Kolo Touré, Lovren, Sakho, Skrtel and loaned out Coates and Ilori. If Rodgers just wants padding for the squad, it strikes me as a great deal of money - but with Kyriakos Papadopoulos you do get a lot of padding for your money. I would be a little surprised if Liverpool were looking at him again, but far from surprised if Rodgers were to simply spend more money for what appears to be the sake of it.}


2.) 19 Mar 2015 12:21:26
I can't imagine why LFC keep looking at wingers/attacking midfielders; we already have too many of them in our squad IMO.


3.) 20 Mar 2015 07:54:19
Well if there are out goings lovren ilori kolo could all go it may be possible

{Ed002's Note - There appears to be no intention to sell Lovren and at the price Liverpool paid there would be no interest. Toure has been offered a new contract and will be considering his options. Ilori is out on loan because the club screwed up when the bought him and don't have a place for him. I agree he may well leave and I am aware of interest in him. Only Rodgers could be stupid enough to replace a loan player with a player for the first team squad so you might be right. It makes zero sense and Liverpool has other uses for that money.}


4.) 23 Mar 2015 13:56:50
Was a bit on liverpool after him again on eurosport


 

 

08 Dec 2014 10:08:09
The mirror are reporting that we we are looking at timo horn standing at 4ft 4inch to replace mignolet.

Surely he will be no good in full size nets lol

LAVERS

{Ed002's Note - Cologne are negotiating a new deal with Horn who after a good start to the season has been struggling and held responsible for a number of goals in recent weeks.}


1.) He is a kid, albeit with a decent amount of experience. He is also 6'4'', not 4'4''.


2.) Sounds like the kind of player we love buying then ed nice waste of money


 

 

 

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19 Aug 2018 06:41:21
Morning eds

What do you know about our new young signing ki-jana hoever?

LAVERS

{Ed001's Note - not a lot he is just a kid.}


1.) 19 Aug 2018 08:11:11
Highly rated and formerly one of the best prospects at Ajax's academy, I read, they are supposed to very disappointed to have lost him. We're said to have beat a host of top European clubs to his signature.


2.) 19 Aug 2018 08:38:51
Will he ever play a first team game for us?


3.) 19 Aug 2018 08:53:57
Very true Ron mate.


4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:52:16
I wouldn’t get too over excited at this juncture, Everton signed Ajax’s captain last season and look how that went 🙈.


5.) 20 Aug 2018 07:20:53
Frode Kippe, Djimi Traore (the new Desailly), Le Tallec, Sinama-Pongolle, Pacheco, Suso there will be dozens more. We’ve a history of signing the next big thing and they end up leaving having played less than 20 games for us and never fulfilling their potential.


 

 

07 Jun 2018 08:03:16
If we are looking at shaquiri then I believe that he will only be as cover leaving us to sign Allison and fekir.

Then that would be us for the summer.

It was probably different before the final as we weren't looking for a new no1 keeper but if we are after Allison then that is a big slice of the transfer kitty gone but worth while.

If we stuck with karius then we would probably push harder for dembele but we can't have the best of both worlds so we get cover in shaquiri.

LAVERS

1.) 07 Jun 2018 08:25:47
I know what you’re saying about Shaq but Ed002 has always pointed out that space in the first team squad will need to be created for this “cover” to come in. Perhaps Lallana is going.
The upshot is some young players will move on or be loaned out. Now I don’t have a problem with that so much, but if you are denying youngsters of sqaud opportunities then for goodness sake use the sqaud!
This is where Klopp must improve. Rotate the squad, bring Shaq in for a few games at a time, get him integrated in the team, instead of shoe-horning him in when we pick up injuries.


2.) 07 Jun 2018 08:27:20
Sounds reasonable. I’d go for Simon over Shaq. I’ve not seen him play but the scouts have. He’s younger cheaper and maybe harder working. Shaq has prem experience and I’d guess settled on the north. These are the only reasons I can think we’d consider him. My opinion on signing Robertson and Salah and Ox were wrong so I’ll just trust Klopp if we sign him.


3.) 07 Jun 2018 08:34:26
There is no way I believe Klopp is interested in Shaqiri. He's got too much ego, wouldn't want to be backup/ squad player and most importantly doesn't work hard enough on the pitch. Basically he's just not good enough and I don't see him fitting in well. Malcom (ideal option) or Moses (budget option) make a lot more sense. These Shaqiri rumours were most likely put out by his agent in an attempt to drum up interest in his client, it is common.


4.) 07 Jun 2018 09:47:02
Ron I agree Lallana will probably be making a move away from the club regardless of shaqiri coming, but at some point we need to start making our bench stronger and if shaqiri is around the 12mil mark as suggested then that seems a bargain to me in the current market.

Personally id look at going after martial when he's out of contract.


5.) 07 Jun 2018 09:55:09
I believe part of the issue with our bench being weak (a perennial complaint) is that our benched players go stale because they don’t play. You have to keep a squad of about 17 players match fit to compete in the premier league if you are also in Europe. As an example Ejaria seemed to sit on the bench every match in 15/ 16 and started about 2 games. Same is true this season for Solanke.
How can players be expected to perform if they’re not match fit. We need to rotate more, Rafa was the master at this IMO.


 

 

28 May 2018 09:44:44
Morning Ed hope all I swell. I know you don't like giving timescales but do you see us signing someone this week as a bit of a hangover cure and lift the mood around the club.

LAVERS

{Ed001's Note - football clubs don't work like that.}


1.) 28 May 2018 09:53:58
Is that a no then? haha.


2.) 28 May 2018 10:18:34
Timescales in this thread, Money in the other.
A tough week to be an ed 😄.


3.) 28 May 2018 12:10:17
Ron I think the eds would be happy with a week, it will be more like 2 months haha.


 

 

30 Aug 2017 19:18:18
Crazy deal for AOC paying that amount for a player with 12months left on his contract.

Does this mean can is off then?

LAVERS

1.) 30 Aug 2017 19:58:27
Absolutely!


2.) 30 Aug 2017 20:40:13
No it is not, Harry. Can will stay this season and if he does not sign a new deal, he will go for free next season. No way on earth will Klopp let him leave this window. No way.


 

 

11 Jun 2017 20:43:47
So everyone is still moaning about transfers.

For starters the window doesn't even open for another 3weeks. Also most moan about us signing that player then moan even more if we don't get them.

Best bit of business was getting solanke done and dusted before the u20 tournament.

LAVERS

1.) 11 Jun 2017 21:24:28
IS he actually done? No chance of this not happening?


2.) 11 Jun 2017 21:31:22
Transfer window opened 9th June and shuts 11pm on Thursday, August 31st.


3.) 11 Jun 2017 22:10:22
Another person moaning about people moaning lol.


4.) 11 Jun 2017 23:43:51
Solanke looks like he could develop into a player, on those wages for a young lad let's hope so.
I thought that Onomah kid from Spurs looked the business though.


5.) 12 Jun 2017 05:17:06
Most aren't moaning about transfers but more about the way we conduct our business. Not just illegal approaches but the constant lowballing but pricing out sales of our own players. It's not just been this year either, FSG have consistently done it window after window. Should I say inconsistently done it consistently. Won't pay £35m for a quality player like Salad, would rather muck him about yet again but will reportedly pay up to £40m for Is whose sick for most of the season and mediocre the rest of it.


6.) 12 Jun 2017 08:06:02
I wouldn't pay £35 million for a salad either.
It's a bit pricey for a vegeterian meal.
Not sure about us asking too much for our own players, until last season we would typically get rid of players for less than their value.


7.) 12 Jun 2017 09:57:49
Don't know what you're moaning about jk82.

Liverpoor fans are a moaning bunch,
With no transfer news to delight 'em.
The moaners then get moaned at,
And so on ad infinitum.

With apologies to Mr Swift.

{Ed025's Note - love it adam..


8.) 12 Jun 2017 14:19:23
if we do eventually get Salah he will prove to be a big success.
Lightning quick, intelligent, can score goals- I'm still keepng my fingers crossed that this one goes through.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2018 10:10:11
Good signing at a low price, international experience and good to come of the bench.

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30 May 2018 13:00:27
If we go with butland we will be repeating mistakes which we have made for years.


Butland is no improvement on karius and it would be £40 mil wasted, spend the extra £20mil and as others have said sort the position for years to come.

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29 May 2018 13:24:14
Sometimes we have to take our rose tinted glasses off. although karius has done better since coming back there has still been a lot of near misses from him that he's been lucky to get away with.

All the top teams have "world class" keepers and karius is not at that level.

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29 May 2018 12:04:03
Keepers make mistakes and lose there positions unfortunately, and sadly for karius he dropped 2 big clangers in the biggest game of his life (and his teammates) .


He has to go.

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13 May 2018 05:48:17
Why not both players with none of our main players going.

If we want to start challenging for the league, this is what it will take.

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19 Aug 2018 15:07:04
Agree he wasn't the best but he always gave his all for the team.

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06 Aug 2018 21:43:28
I think to much is put into this giving youngsters a chance.

If a player is good enough then he will get his chances regardless of age.

Players have to take there chances when they get there chance.

Regarding Owen if he was coming through now then he would have taken his chance and got in the first team, and how many youngsters have actually left Liverpool and become top players?

We all (including myself) get caught up in the romance of a young local lad coming through the ranks and staking his place in the team but in reality majority aren't actually good enough.

Also I think the UK players are lazy and think they have already made it by the time they are 18 and on the big bucks, so they don't really progress from then on.

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21 Jul 2018 16:26:27
I believe everything happens for a reason and if we had bought fekir earlier in the window I don't think we would have signed Allison.

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18 Jul 2018 20:21:42
Philinho fekir signing would that not be adding more cover up top which is what I said.

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18 Jul 2018 18:43:58
Just to add I'm more than happy with the summer and the squad looks fantastic but any injuries to the front 3 and we will suffer.

LAVERS