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13 Jul 2018 12:10:39
Is Wilson to Stoke an actual possibility? Or is it just the papers putting their normal spin on things?

If it is what do people think of the move?

He had a good record in the championship for Hull last year.
Stoke will be looking to bounce back up to the prem and if Wilson is the man who fires them there it could be a real milestone moment in his career.


1.) 13 Jul 2018 12:19:02
he needs game time so I think it would be a good move for both parties.

cant see him getting much game time for us. maybe in the cups.

2.) 13 Jul 2018 12:34:27
Would rather he stayed and was a squad player with us, sure he would get more out of training with world class players everyday and if he can get some time off the bench in the pl then i'm sure that'd be great for him.

Have my fingers crossed that he stays around with us next season.

3.) 13 Jul 2018 12:36:10
I'd hope to see the lad get a good season run. Hopefully build up his reputation to come back and be an option should shaqiri not work out. Not writing Shaqiri off by any means, just see it as a good option for all parties involved.

4.) 13 Jul 2018 13:13:30
I would rather he sticks around and gets a shot at the first team. Worst case, he should get a loan move to a PL club. Stoke has a very different playing style to us.

5.) 13 Jul 2018 13:13:38
I’m not sure how training with the first team would be better than him playing a 40 odd game season in the championship, he needs competitive minutes. If Klopp has decided he’s not ready to be an option for us in the prem then he needs placing in the right team on loan. I would prefer we used him as an alternative to Shaqiri and place some trust in him but it would seem the decision has been made.

6.) 13 Jul 2018 13:17:36
Carra, Silly move. As is buying Shaqiri to ride the pine. Wilson should be the one coming off the bench, not being sent to Stoke.

7.) 13 Jul 2018 14:53:17
I agree brisbaneLFC . spend 13mil on a player that for me wouldn't get in any top 6 side or try and give Wilson a go off the bench. no brainer in my eyes, The championship is a different animal to the prem as well.

8.) 13 Jul 2018 15:36:51
There is nothing more important than getting minutes on the pitch. Training with world class players or not doesn't come close to actual game play. He will do well.

9.) 13 Jul 2018 23:53:30
whether or not you believe that shaqiri is here to ride the pine, whatever really. what is more to the point imo is that shaqiri is far more capable of competing with salah and mane for a starting berth than harry or ryan. their time will come and I hope they stay patient and make the most of their loan opportunities over the next couple seasons.

10.) 14 Jul 2018 11:58:05
Personally I hope Wilson goes on loan to rangers. Hopefully he would then also get some European experience with them (if there still in) as well as playing against some physically strong players in the league.



08 May 2018 13:32:18
Good afternoon Redmen,

Not the result we wanted at the weekend but it is still in our hands to get the job done.
If any of you are lucky enough to attend the game this weekend support the boys as if it was a final. Create an atmosphere to push the boys over the line and build a feel good factor ahead of the champs league final.

Now that my rambling is over, I will give you the loan update :)

Grujic was an unused sub as Cardiff sealed promotion on the final day of the season. Seeing as he was barely used for the run in I cannot see Warnock in a hurry to take him back next season.

Ejaria and Sunderland signed off a disappointing campaign on a high beating league champions Wolves 3-0 in the final game of the season.
Ejaria opened the scoring with his first senior goal.

Wilson had a frustrating final game for Hull as they drew 1-1 with Brentford.
Wilson had a second half penalty saved to which denied him the chance to be the hero on the day.
However Wilsons loan was a huge success with 7 goals and 4 assists in 14 games which helped Hull to safety.

Flanagan was left out the Bolton squad as his loan came to an end.
Bolton survived relegation thanks to 2 goals in the last 5 minutes to beat Forest 3-2.

Ryan Kent and Sheyi Ojo were also not involved for their clubs.
Kents loan has now ended whereas Ojo will be hoping to be involved in the play offs.

Chirivella's loan came to an end with a full outing as Willem II drew 2-2 with Vitesse. A strong end to the season saw Willem finish in 13th.
Chirivella started 30 of their 34 games this season, a key member of their squad in what was a very productive loan spell.

Corey Whelans loan at Yeovil came to an end with a 1-1 draw with Lincoln.
Whelan was in and around the starting 11 for the majority of his loan spell and can be pleased with what he achieved.

Origi has found himself back in the Wolfsburg line up in recent weeks and produced a lively display. However his hard work was in vein as Wolfsburg lost 4-1 to RBL.
Keita was suspended and so did not feature.

Markovic returned to the starting 11 for Anderlecht but found himself playing LB.
By all accounts he had a good game as Anderlecht beat Brugge 2-1.

Danny Sturridge made a rare outing for the final 15 minutes as West Brom continued their quest for a great escape with a last minute win against Spurs.
Unfortunately it wasn't Sturridge who scored.

Matty Virtue played the full 90 as Notts County drew 0-0 with Luton.
Notts are in the league 2 play offs and will face Coventry in the semi finals.

Awoniyi and Arroyo are injured and Randall was left out the Hearts squad.

And that is your lot redmen.


1.) 08 May 2018 14:42:25
superb stuff, your hard work is appreciated. we really need to let markovic leave and pick up his career with another club.

2.) 08 May 2018 15:29:47
Terrific stuff carra. Very much appreciated.

3.) 08 May 2018 17:39:19
Thanks Cara. I'm struggling to think of a single loanee that will ever pull on the red jersey of Liverpool tbh
Bar youth players obviously. I think most have missed their shot.

4.) 08 May 2018 18:22:54
Cheers dude.

5.) 08 May 2018 19:56:27
Thanks Carra!

6.) 09 May 2018 15:52:58
Still have hope for Wilson and Ejaria to play a lot of preseason football and earn a squad place. I also follow Awoniyi, chirivella and I think adekanye (in the u23s) could make it.



18 Apr 2018 15:51:14
Good Afternoon redmen,

Hope you are well,

Sorry the loan update is late there just isn't enough hours in the day!

A weekend to forget for Wilson and Hull as they lost 1-0 to Sheffield Wednesday.
Wilson did however score in their previous mid week game, the 5-0 win over Burton and the young Welshman was voted the Hull player of the month.

Chirivella continues to impress for Willem II as they beat NAC Breda 2-1. It was Chirivella's 27th full outing this season for the dutch team.
Willem II are almost safe for the season.

Markovic started a second game in succession for Anderlecht as they beat Club Brugge 1-0.
Hopefully he starts to settle and kick starts his once promising career.

Arroyo and Mallorca B's won again! This time a 4-0 demolition of Esporles.
This takes his unbeaten run since joining the club to 10 games.

Origi started on the bench for Wolfsburg as they hosted Ausburg. With the score at 0-0 he came on as a second half substitute and missed a glorious chance to win them the game!
It finished 0-0.

Sturridge came on for the final few minutes to help west Brom beat Man U. :)

Grujic was an unused sub as Cardiff got back to winning ways with a 2-0 win over Norwich.

Flannaghan played so poorly in the midweek defeat to Millwall that he was dropped from the squad for the weekend match against Burnley!

Ejaria was an unused sub as Sunderland drew 1-1 with Reading.

Matty Virtue and Notts County continued their promotion chase with a 3-1 win over Colchester.

Chester's relegation was confirmed this week with a 3-2 defeat to Boreham Wood. Andy Firth continues to deputise in goal which will be great experience for the youngster.

Keita was rested after a busy period and only made a late sub appearance as RBL drew 1-1 Werder Bremen.

Kent and Ojo did not make the match day squads, Whelan and Awoniyi both missed out through illness and Connor Randall and Hearts had the week off.

And there's your lot redmen.


1.) 18 Apr 2018 16:40:33
thanks carra.

2.) 18 Apr 2018 16:43:16
Cheers Carra.

3.) 18 Apr 2018 16:50:19
Thank you.

4.) 18 Apr 2018 19:56:58
I believe Owoniyi is injured for the rest of the seeaon.

5.) 18 Apr 2018 21:55:44
thanks Carra.

6.) 19 Apr 2018 11:53:45
Cheers Carra.
What happened to Flannagan, I remember him playing under Kenny, he looked like he would be a solid defender for a years to come.

7.) 19 Apr 2018 12:52:01
He came into a side winnng games for his first decent run in the side which is always easier to do. I think the fact he was a scouser and gave 110% effort made the fans warm to him.
I actually read an article at the end of that season that he had been beaten by the attacker on average per game more than any other player in the prem which ring alarm bells to me (although stats can be misleading)
I actually think fans may have been a little blinkered? i for one thought he looked a god full back but the fact he can’t make the Bolton squad points to him maybe not being as good as we thought he was.

{Ed001's Note - injuries and a poor attitude are his problem. He would rather go out on the lash and have a good time than put in a few extra hours training and then going home to rest and recuperate. He could have been good but the desire just wasn't there when problems hit.}

8.) 19 Apr 2018 15:10:34
Ed01 - interesting that! I thought his attitude is what got him the opportunity in the 1st team with us. Has he just given up? Why would he do that when he was building a good reputation for himself?

{Ed001's Note - he had a good attitude to get there, but the injury changed it. He was a kid who was unable to train or go to work etc each day, but had lots of money and free time. The injury put him at a low ebb mentally and he was bored. It is a very common problem in football and why so many end up addicted to stuff, as they are not properly cared for or educated to deal with boredom or any other aspect of their own mental health and wellbeing.}

9.) 19 Apr 2018 15:27:22
Injuries have taken their toll on Flanagan and think we should release him in the summer.

10.) 19 Apr 2018 19:37:08
Sooner he's out the better, he's a fool to himself. I was actually very excited about him at one point but he blew it, if he'd of got his head down and worked harder he'd of been something today. But then we had the issues the other month with him beating on his girlfriend, no respect from me, I'll be glad to see the back of him.



20 Mar 2018 10:37:21
Hi Eds,

I am not going to focus on the in's as you have given us great info already and as you say these things change all the time.

However is this a good summary of the expected outs?

GK - Mignolet, Ward

Def - Clynn, Klavan - What is the plan with Moreno do you know? will he be staying?

Mid - Can - also possibly one of Milner or Lallana?

Att - Sturridge - Also what is the plan for Solanke as he has not really kicked on? Possibly a loan?

Any info is greatly appreciated



{Ed001's Note - Klavan is a maybe on an out, Moreno is likely to stay for now. Too early to know with Solanke but a loan is very possible, it is more likely one of him or Ings ends up sold.}

1.) 20 Mar 2018 12:42:59
im hearing off a good source can is holding out in til his contract has a month left then he will sign for city.

2.) 20 Mar 2018 13:46:54
Would think Origi will leave, probably Kent.

3.) 20 Mar 2018 14:55:04
City can have Can for me if that's true, not sure he's progressed that much here, he'll end up warming their bench I'd guess.

4.) 20 Mar 2018 15:14:21
I think Klavan is a decent option to have around the club, seems a nice bloke with plenty of international experience (albeit for estonia) .
He's not going demand ludicrous wages and nor will he expect regular playing time.
IMO his form at start of season was better than Matip's and on par with Lover's.

5.) 20 Mar 2018 15:39:29
All this talk of Mignolet and Ward leaving and only one keeper coming in! Would this mean our third choice next season would be Bogdan (enter pained expression emoji here! ) am I right that his contract runs to June 2019.

Hopefully we can keep Ward but I understand he just wants to play can't blame the lad! It would be nice if Bodgan asked for his contract to be ripped up so he can find a team to play for!

Thanks Eds for all your insights and feedback.

{Ed001's Note - no, Bogdan is just with us to get back to full health.}

6.) 20 Mar 2018 16:43:12
I would rather keep Ings and loan Solanke with Origi and Sturridge sold.
Ings looks sharp whenever he comes on and seems far more likely to bag a goal. If god forbid Bobby got injured I would much rather (& have more confidence in) Ings up front than Solanke. We may well come good but to me looks a long way short of quality needed to be our first choice back up forward.

7.) 20 Mar 2018 16:46:13
Our third keeper will be exactly who our third keeper should be - an academy keeper who could theoretically stand in for an emergency but realistically will never play a game.

8.) 20 Mar 2018 17:28:19
I agree hjikle. A goalkeeping department of Karius, handonovic (my preferable for back up option) and shamal George.

9.) 20 Mar 2018 19:27:23
Give Solanke a break. Just because he didn't outplay the best front three in the league week in and week out means we should get rid? Ings has been shining in what little time he's had, but Solanke has that something special to pick up a fair few for us if we can get him a bit of time on the pitch with Salah or Mane. But the schedule ahead of us is too important to give youth a chance at the moment so Solanke will have to wait for next year.

10.) 20 Mar 2018 21:18:58
Would love to see both Ings and Origi kept, with Solanke loaned out.
Origi is probably closest thing we have to Firmino's style of play if Bobby was out, and I like Ings effort. He needs a goal or two for confidence though.
Klavan to go and Matip to stay. Clyne to go. Mignolet to go. Ward to go. Flanagan to go. That's about it for me I reckon.

11.) 20 Mar 2018 22:44:31
I wish Ward would be given a shot at the #2, although I'm sure he's looking for a #1 opportunity.

12.) 21 Mar 2018 06:43:24
I think grabara deserves to be our 3rd choice next season. From what I've seen in the youth games he looks really promising. I'd like to see Ndidi come in to the midfield regardless of whether Can leaves or not.

13.) 22 Mar 2018 19:17:14
Bogdan had a really bad game for the under 23s last night, that could be his last game for us .



13 Mar 2018 11:02:27
Good Morning Redmen,

Hope you are all well and slowly recovering from the disappointment of the weekend.

Don't worry Carra is not here to spit at you, I am just going to provide the loan update :)

Harry Wilson started his first game since his injury lay off and the boy delivered with a MOTM performance.
Hull beat Norwich in a topsy Turvy 4-3 thriller with Wilson providing the assist for the opening goal.
Hull then found themselves 3-1 down but fought back to win with Wilson curling home the late winner!

It was a great week for Grujic last week scoring his first senior goal in their mid week win over Barnsley.
Cardiff's good form continued at the weekend beating Birmingham 3-2 with Grujic playing the full 90 in defensive mid.
Since Grujic joined Cardiff in has been 7 wins and 2 draws in the 9 games that he has featured.

Andy Firth made his first appearances for Chester last week, also his first matches at senior level.
Although it was a week to forget for Chester with back to back 2-0 defeats it was personally a week to remember for Firth.

There was a real shock in the Eredivisie at the weekend as relegation battling Willem II thrashed league leaders PSV 5-0!
Chirivella was at the heart of the win playing the full 90 in centre mid.

It was however a week to forget for Origi who was subbed before half time in Wolfsburgs 3-0 defeat to Hoffeinheim. Origi was not injured so you can only conclude he was having a shocker.

New Boy Arroyo's loan to Mallorca B is continuing to be a success as they beat Petra 3-0.
This is now 6 games unbeaten and a clean sheet in each of the last 4 games.

Flannaghan played twice last week for Bolton with both games finishing as 1-1 draws.
Both goals conceded unfortunately have a similar pattern. Flannaghan was beat for pace on the wing and the resulting crosses were converted.

Ojo made his first start since January for Fulham in their midweek win over Sheffield Utd. He was a late sub in their 2-1 over Preston at the weekend.

Ejaria has found himself at the wrong end of the championship and despite some spirited displays at the turn of the year things are now starting to look bleak for Sunderland.
Back to back defeats last week leave them rock bottom of the championship.
Ejaria however played the full 90 in both and is getting plenty of game time.

After a bright start to life at Bristol Ryan Kent has found himself on the subs bench in recent weeks.
Kent was again a sub at the weekend coming on for a late run out as they lost 2-1 to Preston.

Randall played the full 90 at RB as Hearts lost 2-0 in the Edinburgh derby to Hibs.

It was a hard week for Corey Whelan and Yeovil as they first lost 1-0 in the Semi final of the Football league trophy to Shrewsbury.
At the weekend they lost 2-0 to Newport County.

Keita grabbed himself an impressive assist in RBL's midweek Europa win over Zenit for which they won 2-1.
He also featured in a 0-0 draw at the weekend which has been described as a 'drab' affair.

Sturridge is still injured
Markovic was left out the squad
Allan was suspended

And that's your lot redmen

8 games left of the prem season, 16 points needed to reach the magic 76.
No team has ever reached 76 points and not finished in the top 4 for those that did not know.
4 wins, 4 draws, easy stuff. I expect us to do better than that anyway.


1.) 13 Mar 2018 11:35:32
Wilson’s displays have been brilliant and it’s really good to see Grujic getting good experience and learning. This experience could help us save money in the summer! Well done Colin W at Cardiff!

2.) 13 Mar 2018 12:37:43
Brilliant cheers Carra. If you had to pick one player who is on loan that you think could make a regular first teamer at Liverpool who would it be?

3.) 13 Mar 2018 13:19:29
Markp08 - does Keita count? ;)

Seriously though it's Wilson for me, we have no chance of buying someone good enough to cover a long injury for Salah or Mane but willing to sit on the bench when they are both fit. Our best chance for me is to raise one and Wilson has met every challenge at every level perfectly - developing him is our best chance of long term cover and competition for them and a ready made replacement in a couple of years should we need.

4.) 13 Mar 2018 13:38:58
What origi been like this season? Always liked him I thought time away would do him well.

{Ed002's Note - Started well but tailed off recently.}

5.) 13 Mar 2018 14:06:08
Hi Mark,

Its impossible to say really as all youth players need an element of luck to break into the first team. For example Wilson has had a terrific season for our u23's and has started his loan well at Hull, however when he returns to Liverpool he needs to try and force his way into a team that already consists of a front 3 of Salah, Firmino and Mane, then the likes of Ings, Solanke, Woodburn on the bench.

I would say our most consistent loanee this season has been Chirivella. he's playing in a top division and has been a mainstay in their central midfield all season long. Lots of other Loanees have been in and out of their teams due to form or injuries.

Of those currently on loan I would say either Chirivella or Grujic as our CM needs improving and is our weakest area, one of them could capitalise on the changes that are going to happen.

6.) 13 Mar 2018 14:35:02
Nice one Carra, I didn't know Chirivella was doing so well. I always liked Grujic I think he is technically gifted.

Like you say it is very very hard for a young player to break into our first team and hold a regular place.

Thanks keep up your fine work, much appreciated.

7.) 13 Mar 2018 14:47:52
I think it would be ideal if Cardiff get promoted and Grujic gets a season with them in PL before bringing him back if he performs. He needs game time and experience for such a critical position IMO. I think in time he’ll be an excellent 6.

Wilson I wasn’t sure how he’d perform at senior level but the lads doing very well.

8.) 13 Mar 2018 15:19:18
Agreed SG with both players. My slight reservation is Grujic's tackling, but he is very young and could be a top player.

9.) 13 Mar 2018 15:35:39
I would rather have Wilson in squad now instead of lallana, I think lallana is going to leave in summer an he seems too have lost his way, yes he has been injury prone but not good enough for key position we rely on, I really like Wilson would love him too do well, he seems too have knack for scoring goals, he is also creative an would improve playing with the quality we have in 1st team hope we don't let him drift away he too good for that.

10.) 13 Mar 2018 13:55:18
Not world class then yet Ed?

Rodgers really did make some strange statements.

{Ed002's Note - He did indeed.}

11.) 13 Mar 2018 15:49:53
The play breaks down a lot from Lallana, all those turns he makes himself dizzy. Someone more direct with end product would be much better. I agree sell now while we can get a decent return.

We need to get the new midfielders in asap so they can play together in pre season.

12.) 13 Mar 2018 22:56:25

What was the score tonight?

2-1 Jamie lad, 2-1 😄

Got to love a bit of karma 😎.

13.) 14 Mar 2018 15:51:41
Nice one carra mate.

sounds like a lot of the younger lads are doing top notch! Wilson especially :) Nice to see grujic getting game time.

also im sure a lot of pool fans are feeling better seeing Sevilla outclass those mancs. They talked so much about how they will bash sevilla and show us how it's done. Nice one lads!

14.) 14 Mar 2018 19:13:22
Would love to see Wilson given some game time next year.




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11 Jul 2018 13:44:13
Can we all stop moaning about Shaqiri.

We all agree the talent is there. he's 26 now and this is his last chance to join a big club.
Yes he will want a place in the starting 11 but that doesn't mean he will get one! if his head is right then its added competition for our front 3 which can only be a good thing + we need depth anyway.

If his attitude is wrong or he doesn't try then he will sit on the bench, reserves wherever. The rest of our squad are not a bunch of fairies they will not all be effected if one man comes in and has a sulk that he's not playing.

We are hoping to play a lot of games this season so Shaqiri will get plenty of game time even if he is not first choice.


1.) 11 Jul 2018 14:21:30
Hopefully the massive step down from Bayern to Stoke will have done something about his ego and he realises this may be his last chance at a big club.

He might work hard then to stay at this level.

Or maybe wishful thinking on my part.

2.) 11 Jul 2018 14:24:48
He should at least have a chance to play/ train before he’s labelled as lazy.

3.) 11 Jul 2018 14:53:39
Ron, he is lazy cos it is what we are seeing n have seen from him before thru out his Stoke career.

4.) 11 Jul 2018 14:56:29
Ron he’s had plenty of chances to player over his career and it’s safe to say he is lazy ;)

5.) 11 Jul 2018 15:02:00
I would personlly rather we went for someone else like Brandt, but if we do go for him then so be it - the guy does have the proven ability to do something special and he’s not coming in as a starter so worst case he sulks and gets sat in the reserves or out the door faster than you can say Sakho.

6.) 11 Jul 2018 15:35:19
Lots of double standards around I see 🤨.

7.) 11 Jul 2018 15:36:52
Shaqiri wouldn't be my first pick, but at 13mil he is worth the gamble 100% - stop worrying about his attitude etc, that is not our concern, let klopp and his team deal with that.

We need to remember how weak our bench was in the champions league final. The injury to Salah killed us, we had to bring on Lallana who had barely kicked a ball in a year!

If we had brought on someone with Shaqiri's quality instead then just maybe things could of been different.

8.) 11 Jul 2018 16:41:37
Care to explain, Ron?

9.) 11 Jul 2018 17:44:45
Irish, the step do n from INTER has not made him more humble. Look at his comments when Stoke were in the middle of a relegation battle.

10.) 11 Jul 2018 17:53:38
Prince hendo I didn't mention INTER because he was only there briefly.

11.) 11 Jul 2018 18:15:59
Or Prince, look at his statements when he was refused the capt's armband in favor of Lichsteiner during the last Euros in France.



02 Jun 2018 12:55:23
Just a thought. If we get Dembele maybe we will move Mane infield? He played there a few times this season and certainly came infield more after we sold Coutinho.

Maybe Klopp is planning to have Mane behind Firmino with Dembele and Salah stretching the defence with pace out wide?


1.) 02 Jun 2018 14:09:34
That would leave us with D. F. S.

Should be great armchair viewing that's for sure. Hopefully there won't be as many sales though.

2.) 02 Jun 2018 14:20:27
Mane in midfield wouldn’t be a bad choice but he is at his vintage best when he is on the flanks and takes on his man with pace and trickery! Playmaking is not his strong area. He is such a threat when he is on the move! Best winger in the league!

3.) 02 Jun 2018 14:26:08
All would’ve put on the transfer list
As we all know- DFS sale is permanently on.

4.) 02 Jun 2018 14:30:44
Mane performed his altered role admirably but he's definitely far better running at players and making runs in behind than he is at picking a pass (although he is good at it) . We need Fekir and I believe we'll get Fekir.

5.) 02 Jun 2018 15:13:22
For me we need to sign a keeper, attacking midfielder playing the 10 role. We need an alternative winger to cover for an injuries to Salah, Mane etc and arguably a back up striker if Ings, Sturridge and Origi are sold.



25 May 2018 11:14:10
Cannot wait for tomorrow!

Win, lose or draw I am proud of the boys!

Lets support the team no matter what as we know they will be giving their all.

To those of you lucky enough to be in Kiev make sure your support is loud and do us boys proud. Drown out the Real Madrid prawn sandwich brigade and make it seem like a match on Merseyside.

Your support can help bring old big ears home!




14 May 2018 19:30:22
To quote ed2, "ignore costs, they are irrelevant".

And if you did want to play football manager then you could argue the cost of butland will be largely offset against the sales or migs and Ward.

Butland will come in as competition for karius, not to replace him. But he will be confident he can do so.

I have long felt karius has done enough in the second half of this season to keep the jersey next year and I believe this (potential) signing shows klopp feels the same.
If we signed Allison etc then it would be to replace karius, if it was navas or Reina then there would be a lack of competition.
I think this will turn out to be a shrewd move by klopp with two keepers of a similar level battling and hopefully getting the best out of each other.


{Ed025's Note - i agree carra..

1.) 14 May 2018 19:49:51
Ultimately we need to trust Klopp and the recruitment team they have proved more shrewd than many a previous season!

If we sign Butland I will give him the utmost support so long as he works hard for the badge!

2.) 14 May 2018 19:51:53
Unless we go back to keeper rotation, which will undo all the defensive improvement. In my opinion Butland will be Number 1 and Karius will have to wait and hope he cocks up.

3.) 14 May 2018 20:06:26
Redmersey, Butland has not shown that he is better than Karius at any point this season esp. since Karius took the job full time, IMO and in fact, Karius has beaten out Allisson as no. 1 cos Klopp ain't signing him anymore and Butland is not fit to shine his boots. Personally, I am not for this move cos my reasons go beyond the football pitch and I have stated them in other threads. If Klopp wants him then, I hope he knows what he is doing here.

4.) 14 May 2018 20:18:03
Take your Karius blinkers off BRover. I don’t want to list the Karius errors ir the ones he has made where he got lucky but you have obviously deleted them from your memory.

He hasn’t had a great deal to in most games and, apart from 2 good saves any others he has made are ones that you would expect him to save.

Butland will be behind a defence where he won’t be overworked but will make a difference on the occasions he is called upon.

The bottom line is that Butland has not signed yet but if he does I will trust that Klopp knows better than all of us in here. If we don’t sign a keeper I trust Karius more than I did in the past but, in my opinion, he is an accident waiting to happen. I hope it’s not on 26th May.

5.) 14 May 2018 20:22:01
Keeper rotation is not the way forward imo.

6.) 14 May 2018 20:31:25
Excellent post Carra. Making a lot of sense.

7.) 14 May 2018 20:47:01
I would agree with Redmersey.

8.) 14 May 2018 21:26:15
Very much agreed drogie.

9.) 14 May 2018 23:01:27
I'd rather rotation than just being like, you will dropped of you make a mistake. Mignolet got years, I hope Karius goes a fair chance.

10.) 15 May 2018 02:32:14
To me Klopp is not going to be rushing AGAIN in placing a new player as keeper.
Karius will start next season if he's fit, the rest of keepers available then will have to wait for their chance.

Karius needs time. He was taken to Citeh's youth team because he has the potential. He needs to be trusted to develop. The 26th will say a lot, I'm sure.



01 May 2018 11:43:54
Good Morning redmen,

Hope you are all well and not complete nervous wrecks like I am!

Heres a little read to take your mind off the impending champs league game for a couple mins

The loan update.

Chirivella played the full 90 as Willem II beat PEC 1-0.
The result was special for 2 reasons, firstly Chirivella got his first assist of the season. Secondly the win all but secured their top flight status.
I read a discussion on here about the future of some of our youth players and for me Chirevella will be the man to break through next season. He has spent the season playing as a DM and has been our standout loanee this season, an ever-present in their side.
There will be a lot of changes to our midfield over the summer and I think Chirvella will benefit from this.

Grujic had a game to forget at the weekend as Cardiff beat Hull 2-0.
Grujic started on the bench but came on after 10 minutes due to an injury. However after a poor 35 minutes he was then subbed back off at half time! I think that might be his last game in a Cardiff shirt.

On the opposing side to Cardiff was Harry Wilson in the Hull attack.
Wilson had a quiet game but did complete the full 90.

Anything Grujic can do Flannagan can do better! Flannagan started Boltons crucial relegation match v Burton but at 2-0 down at half time and playing a part in both goals Flannagan was also subbed off at half time!

Ejaria returned to the starting line up for Sunderland and by all reports played well. However he was unable to prevent Sunderland throwing away a 1 goal lead to eventually lose 2-1 to Wolves.

Connor Randall started at right wing back and played the full 90 as Hearts lost 2-0 to Aberdeen.

Matty Virtue started again and played the full 90 in Nott's 2-1 loss to Grimsby.
The defeat ruled out automatic promotion and means Notts will be in the play offs at the end of the season.

Firth made his 11th and final appearance for Chester as they beat Barrow 2-1 in the fianl game of the season.
Although unable to help them avoid relegation Firth was almost an ever present in his loan spell and should have great experience to learn from.

Arroyo, the rock in the Mallorca B defence.
Since they signed him on loan in January they have gone on a 12 game unbeaten run, winning 11 and keeping 8 clean sheets.
At the weekend they beat Felanitx 1-0. However injury forced him off towards the end of the game, hopefully nothing to serious.

Origi made his first start in over a month as Wolfsburg lost 3-1 to Hamburg.
Reports say his performance was full of effort but lacking in quality.

Despite scoring last time out Markovic was back on the bench and only made a short cameo as Anderlecht beat Charleroi 3-1.

Keita and RBL had a weekend to forget as they lost 3-0 to relegation threatened Mainz.
To make matters worse Keita was sent off in the final minutes of the game, his fourth sending off this season!
RBL are now fighting to finish in the european spots with just a few games left in the season.

Sturridge, Ojo, Kent and Whelan were all unused this season whilst Awoniyi and Allan are out with injury.

Now for a nice boring 0-0 tomorrow night :)


1.) 01 May 2018 12:30:36
Thanks carra. Yes mate a 0-0 will do me just fine lol today's dragging because tomorrow is all I can think about!

2.) 01 May 2018 12:47:57
V cheers carra.

3.) 01 May 2018 13:13:37
Thanks for the update Carra.

One minor point is that Ejaria played against Fulham and not wolves. I was at the game.

He did have an alright game by all accounts. He played behind the striker (Fletcher) and did stand out as one of the best Sunderland players, which isn’t really saying much as Sunderland were completely dreadful.

What surprised me about the lad is he really is a big bloke. He was probably the tallest player on the pitch and did like to get stuck in a bit.

He had some moments of class, one in which he controlled a goal kick on the full beautifully, did a neat little turn beating the nearest defender, and then spanked a huge cross field pass perfectly to a teammate. However he also got a few simple things wrong and needlessly loss possession quite a bit.

I feel bad for the lad playing for a rubbish Sunderland team all year, hopefully his next loan is to a team that plays slightly more to his strengths (if he isn’t sold) .

Red Sandman.

4.) 01 May 2018 13:19:57
Thanks Carra for all the effort you put in. Enjoy reading you’re loan updates. Interesting thoughts on Chirivella. Hope he can fulfil his potential as a future DM for the first team🤞.

5.) 01 May 2018 15:00:41
I thought that Sunderland was a poor choice of clubs for Ejaria, they were always going to have problems, and he would have been better off going to a side much closer to the top four or six .

6.) 01 May 2018 23:52:20
Not long ago Flanagan was the Next Cafu on this page. A good lesson learned. “ Stop overhyping players “.

7.) 01 May 2018 23:55:12
Legend carra, favourite player, favourite poster.

Don't know if you can help carra but how is young gallagher, the lb from Falkirk, getting on. Does he look promising?




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05 Jun 2018 23:36:30
Thanks for the info Ed2. Do you know if we have spoke to Simon's club/ representatives? Or are we just continuing to scout him and the rest of the media world are just two years behind you ;)


{Ed002's Note - I have no idea. He has been with the Nigeria squad but is injured.}



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05 Jun 2018 23:36:30
Thanks for the info Ed2. Do you know if we have spoke to Simon's club/ representatives? Or are we just continuing to scout him and the rest of the media world are just two years behind you ;)


{Ed002's Note - No idea, he is no more than someone previously considered so it would not be unreasonable for him to be looked at again.}



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05 Jun 2018 20:31:55
Thanks Ed 👍.




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05 Jun 2018 10:24:41
Just a quick message to those saying he should of asked to come off. I have been concussed in a game before, I thought I was fine and carried on playing. I was subbed off in the second half for a poor performance and later that day ended up in A&E.

I knew I was having a bad game but not once did I think I had a concussion. From what we know Karius did not know he was concussed either.

Like Ed (and others) have said, an incident like this is bigger than football and im just glad the lad is ok.




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01 Jun 2018 08:16:47
There is zero chance of us selling Salah one season into his contract, especially after the season he has just had!

We are building this summer, the only players to leave will be the ones klopp wants to let go.

So just sit back and enjoy the transfer window.

I personally think we need a wide player like dembele to add depth to the squad and an attacking mid like fekir. Here’s to hoping we sign both!





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15 Jul 2018 15:38:02
I live in Brighton as they love Gross down here. Towards the end of the season fans were convinced a big club would move for him.

Very effective player.

I don’t know the exact figure but I’m sure he was involved in over half of their goals this season.


{Ed001's Note - something like that mate, he was sensational.}



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11 Jul 2018 15:36:52
Shaqiri wouldn't be my first pick, but at 13mil he is worth the gamble 100% - stop worrying about his attitude etc, that is not our concern, let klopp and his team deal with that.

We need to remember how weak our bench was in the champions league final. The injury to Salah killed us, we had to bring on Lallana who had barely kicked a ball in a year!

If we had brought on someone with Shaqiri's quality instead then just maybe things could of been different.




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18 Jun 2018 13:21:20
Some say losing me before the game had the same effect as losing Salah in the final.




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17 Jun 2018 21:19:36
What was our ranking previously?




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17 Jun 2018 21:16:25
Count me in.