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26 Jul 2017 00:13:51
Hi Reds,

To the people worried stating reports that Coutinho has agreed a contract etc with Barca, ignore it. These are the same papers that stated several thousand times that Keita had signed!

I personally cannot see Coutinho leaving this summer. We are back in the Champions League and I am sure Klopp and the board are in agreement that we will not sell our best players, for this summer at least.
I cannot see Coutinho forcing the issue, he has respect for the club and the fans, he is not that type of person.

If you ignore all other reports and just listen to the eds the summer is a lot less painful.

Ed2 has said at least for now, he expects Coutinho to be here at least another season.

He stated a long time ago that Robertson was our most likely left back.

He has stated that Keita is not for sale.

He has stated that Can is considering his options. (ed is it feasible that we may keep Can even if he does not sign a new contract and let him see out his last 12 months? )

He has stated we have not gone back in for VVD after what happened. So unless they approach us, then this deal is off the table for now.

@ED2 what is the situation with the Ox now? all seems to of gone quiet on that front?


1.) 26 Jul 2017 01:21:23
I think I have read that wenger wants him to stay but Chelsea and man city are also keen on him.

2.) 26 Jul 2017 02:30:27
VVD and NB agreed terms earlier, see what this brought us in the transfer market.

3.) 26 Jul 2017 03:26:34
We won't let can's contract run down he is not an old man he is 23? Reported 34 mil seems cheap compared to other transfers this year. I hope he stays.

As for coutinio, you are right he has respect for us and that respect is returned. He's a good guy. That is exactly why we can't stand in the way of his dream move. If he stays I want it to be because he wants to. Not a prisoner. If he gives us another year as his choice I'll be chuffed. If he stays forever he would become an field legend. Stay Phil, we will win this year. Need can too.

4.) 26 Jul 2017 08:47:16
Tapping up then, shock horror, a club doing what we have been crucified for, as i have said before it's now part of football, Barcelona clearly using neymar as a mouthpiece, meeting with the player, will we get mardy now and report Barcelona for turning coutinhos head, no, we man up, if you don't wanna sell a player don't! Take a leaf outta Leipzigs book!

5.) 26 Jul 2017 09:17:22
It's all set up around our CL playoff. If we win I think Couts stays, if we lose ( god forbid) I can see him asking to be let go. As stated by others, he has become world class at LFC, and will want to play in world class competition (with his best mate) . Truth is we need to win that playoff to keep our best players, and qualify regularly ongoing.

6.) 26 Jul 2017 10:08:31
Manalah, if Couts plays in our CL playoff, he might as well stay at LFC cos he will be cup-tied (not sure if the rules have changed) .

7.) 26 Jul 2017 10:57:13
did someone just say £34m for Can? I like him asa a player but if he's still behind Henderson in the pecking order then that's a cracking price for us!

8.) 26 Jul 2017 12:28:56
Coutinho's gone. Jesus what does it take for people to see through the FSG business model.

9.) 26 Jul 2017 16:06:52
The owners have categorically said that they won't sell Couts under any circumstances if they do sell him then I will unfortunately have to concede that Ozone was right about them all along . I hope that for the sake of our club that Ozone is wrong. We should NEVER sell our best players unless they put in a transfer request and in this circumstance if we do it should be on our terms for an amount that would allow us to afford a similar or better player. I hope that Ozone never gets to say " I told you so "

10.) 26 Jul 2017 16:48:50
Ozone mate, just like to clarify that my post is not an attack on you, actually I admire that you are consistent in your convictions and that you remain steadfast in your beliefs unlike the bipolar nature of some posters . In this instance however I pray that you are wrong . As unpopular as your views are sometimes I gauge that you as passionate about LFC . I hope that ultimately we all can celebrate the success of our team together regardless. YNWA.

11.) 26 Jul 2017 16:13:42
I hope we steer well clear of Ox, we don't need another winger, he's not a centre midfielder, his agent is Aidy Ward and he will not improve our starting 11, he's very expensive squad filler.

12.) 26 Jul 2017 19:14:55
Not so B Scouse, direct quote from UEFA. com

"However, a player can play for one club in the first, second and third qualifying round, and/ or the play-offs, of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, and then represent another club from the group stage of either competition. "

I hope I'm wrong, but I think CL proper will see an end to these issues one way or another.

13.) 26 Jul 2017 19:51:51
Thanks for the clarification, Manalah.

14.) 26 Jul 2017 23:22:59
No problem B Scouse, so many regulations we all have to help each other out to stay on top. ✊️.

15.) 27 Jul 2017 10:51:14
Ozone, if Coutinho leaves then you and Waro has been right all along and it will NOT pass this time. FSG better get ready.



06 Dec 2016 10:21:29
Morning Redmen,

Well that was an eventful weekend!
As disappointing as it is, let's try not to go OTT, we are 3rd in the league, went unbeaten in 15. And deserved to win the game! I always say I would rather lose a game we deserve to win then to just get battered. The players will be frustrated and hopefully Klopp will make them learn from this and be stronger for it.

Anyways, enough of my rambling, heres the weekend loan update

Awoniyi appears to of lost his place in the NEC starting 11 as for the 3rd week in a row he starts on the bench.
Awoniyi was introduced to the game in the 80th min with his team losing 1-0 to Hercules. His appearance did not have the desired effect as it became 2-0 just 1 minute later.

Flannaghan made his 2nd start in a row for Burnley but Opta stats say his showing wasn't to impressive.
Burnley lost 2-0 to Stoke as their woeful away form continues.

Hertha Berlin won a thriller away to Wolfsburg winning 3-2 thanks to a 90th Minute Pen.
Allan entered the game in the 80th min when the game was 2-2.

Hudderfields freefall down the Championship table continues following a 1-1 draw with Blackburn. Danny Ward played the full 90.

Ryan Fulton had a bad bad day at the office as Chesterfield lost 5-0 to Wycombe Wanderers.

Wisdom came into the starting 11 last week, they lost, and so this week he finds himself back on the bench.
He watched on from his favourite spot as Salzburg won 4-1.

Sporting Lisbon Moved into second following a 2-0 win over Vitoria.
Markovic got himself a nice 3minute run out at the end

And there's your lot redmen :)


1.) 06 Dec 2016 11:43:26
Wat a way to describe Wisdom, that's harsh.

2.) 06 Dec 2016 15:03:47
Thanks Carra.

3.) 06 Dec 2016 20:36:54
Thanks carra Lee not harsh at all did you not see him at carrow rd last season!?

4.) 06 Dec 2016 23:13:58
Cheers Carra 😘.

5.) 07 Dec 2016 23:10:09
Thanks for the update.
Any news on Jack Dunn at Morecambe?

I had high hopes for him I hope he can prove me right.

6.) 08 Dec 2016 12:58:08
Hi Dermot,

Jack Dunns loan deal at Morecombe has ended. He is back at Anfield.

7.) 08 Dec 2016 19:12:39
Tks for that.
I was unaware the loan had finished.
It seems to be crunch time for the lad now.
He scored one of the finest goals I've ever seen a few years back and thought what a prospect.
But a series of injuries have derailed his development.
Best of luck to him though.

8.) 11 Dec 2016 14:24:56
What's happened to Harry Wilson. Thought he was highly regarded.

{Ed001's Note - he is playing for the U23s.}



08 Nov 2016 08:07:28
Morning redmen,

Sorry you didn't get a loan update last week. I typed it out on my phone but for whatever reason it didn't send.

Great win Sunday! We absolutely steamrolled Watford, who prior to Sunday have a good defensive record this season.

Ron, I am a believer 😎

NEC nejmegan find themselves out of the drop zone entering the international break following a 1-1 draw with fellow strugglers Groningen.
Awoniyi played the full 90.

Jon flannaghan made his first premier league start and played the full 90 as Burnley beat palace 3-2 in an entertaining game.
Flanno put in a solid shift as zaha tore the other full back to pieces

Ryan Kent played for 75 minutes as Barnsley drew 0-0 with burton.

Hertha Berlin sit 4th in the bundesliga following a 3-0 win at the weekend. Allan came on for the final half hour.

Danny ward played the full 90 as Huddersfields stuttering form continues drawing 1-1 with Birmingham.
There is now daylight between huddersfield and the top two.

Bogdan and Wigan had a weekend to forget as they lost 3-0 to reading.

Wisdom sat in his favourite seat as Salzburg won 2-1.

Markovic was not in the sporting squad as sporting won 3-0.

All other players on loan featured for English teams in the fa cup. My app unfortunately will only give me the final scores so I cannot tell u who did or didn't play.

So there's your lot 😊.


1.) 08 Nov 2016 08:26:31
Cheers Carra, glad to hear Flanno got a game finally!

2.) 08 Nov 2016 09:47:46
Thanks Carra, flanno didn't look to bad against a team that has a lot of wing play, glad for him.

3.) 08 Nov 2016 11:38:59
But I thought someone on here asked at the start of the season that you shouldn't bother about Bogdan. Lol
He is so not coming back I reckon.

4.) 08 Nov 2016 15:29:17
Wisdom did play well mid week against Nice in a 2-0 win for the full 90.

5.) 08 Nov 2016 19:21:48
Cheers Carra, I missed your update last week but saw your post to ed001 about your phone.
Great football at the weekend, we could have done without these international breaks, we've found a great rhythm recently.
Good work mate 😉.

6.) 08 Nov 2016 19:44:40
The only good thing about the break is I have the day off work to take my son to the game. But your right, I never look to the first match after the break. The squad always seems rusty.



26 Sep 2016 08:15:10
Morning redmen,

I have this strange unusual feeling at the moment about Liverpool. I'm confident, happy and enjoying watching them play!?!

Long may it continue

Now for the weekend loan update

Awoniyi played for 87 minutes as NEC drew 0-0 at home with Willem. The point moves them out of the bottom 3.
Awoniyi has started 3 in a row so looks like he will be a regular this season which is good.

Burnley play at home tonight against Watford. Hopefully flannaghan will make an appearance. They are leaking goals so who better to bring in than the scouse cafu!

Allan was an unused sub as Hertha berlin drew 3-3 with eintracht.
Only one start so far this season, looks like he has to really fight for regular game time.

Danny ward and Huddersfield lost 1-0 to reading after having a man sent off early on.
Huddersfield are now second in the championship

Wigan and bogdans poor start to the season continues as they lost 1-0 to Preston. Wigan are now bottom of the championship.

Jack Dunn played the full 90 as Morecombe lost 3-2 at home to Crawley.
Morecambe currently sit just in the playoff spots.

The man in the sticks Ryan Fulton was unable to prevent chesterfield losing 2-1 to bury. Bury had 13 shots on target so Fulton was kept pretty busy

Wisdom watched on injured as salzberg drew 0-0

Lloyd jones played the full 90 as Swindon beat oldham 2-0

Sam hart was an unused sub as port vale lost 2-1 to Bristol.

Markovic came on in the 70th minute as sporting won 4-2.
Injury niggles have disrupted his start to the season.

And that's your lot redmen.
Here's hoping we beat Swansea next week to give us a good finish before the international break.


1.) 26 Sep 2016 12:21:05
thanks for the up-date carra, always a good read .

2.) 26 Sep 2016 14:08:44
I was at the Bayern game vs Berlin.
Bayern did not get out of second gear. At half time they had 80% Possession and it was more of a Training exercise.

Allan to his credit was one of a very few Berlin Players looking to take on some responsibility and continually dropped deep to receive the ball and play out from the back. Ultimately he was caught out and robbed of the ball leaving 2 Bayern players alone with the GK, resulting in the second goal.

Hard to judge him to harshly though given it was his first minutes of the season and against a Team so massively ahead of their rivals that it borders on the boring to watch.



23 Sep 2016 07:56:13
Morning redmen,

Here's the loan update from the midweek matches.

Awoniji and NEC nijmegan crashed out the cup 6-4 on penalties after a 1-1 draw.

Allan made is first start and played the full 90 as hertha berlin lost 3-0 to Bayern Munich.

Wisdom was just a spectator due to injury as Salzburg won 7-1 to progress to the next round of the cup.

Back from suspension and back with a bang! Lloyd jones scored the opener and what looked like it would be the winner for Swindon until Bristol scored twice late on! The game finished 2-1

And there's your lot redmen.


1.) 23 Sep 2016 11:15:03
Cheers dude.

2.) 25 Sep 2016 12:58:25
Thanks Carra.




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13 Aug 2017 00:26:42
Since the beginning of the 2014/ 15 season we have conceded 44 goals from set pieces in the premier league. That is more than anyone else.
It also accounts for 31% of the goals we have conceded in total, just shy of a 3rd of total goals conceded.

We like to point at our defence for these things but set pieces get defended as a team, it is nobody in the back 4's fault that Wijnaldum ducked an easy clearing header.

Last season we conceded 13 goals from set pieces and in total conceded 42 goals. Remove just half of those set piece goals and our goals conceded will be close to Chelsea's (League winners) .

I have no issue with zonal marking, when used correctly it works. However we look woeful with the system we use.
This is not a knee jerk reaction to today, it is just a continuation of last season.
We do not put people on the posts! Its the 94th minute and you are defending a lead put bodies on the line.

To earn his wage Klopp needs to address our set piece issue, it was a glaring issue under Rodgers and has continued under Klopp. The team are nervous so put bodies on the line. Nobody want's to head the ball so switch to man marking which will force them to take responsibility.

If we sort our set piece issues then I don't think our back 4 would get near as much stick as they do.


1.) 13 Aug 2017 01:59:45
Agree totally with what your saying except our back 4 looked just as vulnerable in open play today as they did at set pieces.



27 Dec 2016 15:54:32
Hi reds,

Just want to apologise for the lack of loan updates recently. A new demanding job, kids, and southern rail train strikes have left me with little spare time on my hands.
I have no idea who is still on loan! Lol.
I will take stock and hopefully get back to posting like normal after the new year.

Hope you all had a good Christmas.


{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

1.) 27 Dec 2016 16:36:49
No worries thanks for the update on the updates 😀.

2.) 27 Dec 2016 17:12:29
No need to apologise mate - you provide a service for free that many of us do not expect but certainly appreciate - take care of yourself la and, if you can post in future, they'll be plenty of reds grateful for the effort.

3.) 27 Dec 2016 17:19:12
Your updates are outstanding carra, really great to get an idea of what's happening with the young lads, all year I've kept meaning to say it but I rarely post. Bravo fine sir.

4.) 27 Dec 2016 19:51:17
Carra you're a legend 😘.

5.) 27 Dec 2016 20:17:54
Your posts are worth waiting for carra.



19 Dec 2016 22:08:49
I was about to apologise to everyone as I watched the game.

But finally I've seen a win⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️🏅🏅🏅.


1.) 19 Dec 2016 22:17:14
Is right Carra!

2.) 19 Dec 2016 22:20:22
The table has turned. You shouldn't miss any.



15 Dec 2016 13:13:44
Should I worry that I am yet to see Liverpool win this season

Games I have watched are, Burnley, Tottenham, Utd, Saints, Bournemouth and West Ham.

I want to watch but feel like I am Jinxing the club. Its got beyond a joke : (


1.) 15 Dec 2016 13:28:40
I am really worried for you, Cara.

2.) 15 Dec 2016 13:44:09
Sorry carra no more football for you! Actually watch chelsea and see if you have the same effect on them ;)

3.) 15 Dec 2016 13:46:11
I guess you should stay miles away from matches Carra 😎.

4.) 15 Dec 2016 14:42:41
Please don't watch anymore mate.

5.) 15 Dec 2016 15:17:11
Perhaps watch them on replay? I was actually doing this for a while ever since Man City - Liverpool turned out 1-4 last year, but then the series stopped.

6.) 15 Dec 2016 16:51:03
It's clear now carra. The next time we lose or draw, I am blaming it onto you mate 😋.

7.) 15 Dec 2016 19:14:43
Carra I really don't know how to say this but yes it is all your fault. So just stay away mate, no hard feelings😋.

8.) 15 Dec 2016 19:26:16
Strange, I missed the Bournemouth, west ham, burnley and United games only. I managed to watch this week and we are back to winning ways :)

9.) 15 Dec 2016 22:09:09
I will not watch us again until we lose without me watching.
The sad thing is I switched on the Bournemouth game at 3-1 up!
Everyone raves about our football this season but I am yet to see it lol.

{Ed025's Note - please watch on monday mate.. :)

10.) 16 Dec 2016 02:46:19
Don't be silly lad. Watch and enjoy the derby👌 🍀🍀🍀 have some irish luck and remember superstitions are not real. 😅.



11 Dec 2016 22:25:55
Evening red men,

i had a spare 5 minutes this evening so I thought I would provide you with the loan update nice and early this week.

It was a good win for Awoniyi and NEC as they beat ADO 3-0 giving themselves real breathing space from the bottom 3.
Unfortunately Awoniyi was an unused sub.

Similar to NEC, Burnley had a good win this week beating Bournemouth 3-2 giving themselves breathing space from the bottom 3.
But just like Awoniyi, Flannagan was an unused sub.

Barnsley had a good win this weekend over promotion hopefuls Norwich winning 2-1 at Home.
Ryan Kent played for 88 minutes.

Hertha Berlin sit 3rd in the Bundesliga after an impressive first half of the season.
However they had a weekend to forget after losing 1-0 at home to Werder Bremen.
Allan was an unused Sub.

Huddersfield got back to winning ways with a 2-1 win over Bristol City.
Danny Ward played the full 90.

It started so well for Chesterfield and Ryan Fulton as they took a 2-1 lead away to Peterborough. However things soon went wrong and they ended up on the wrong side of a 5-2 Thumping.
its been a difficult season for Fulton so far. However he has kept his spot in the sticks which indicates the amount of goals being shipped is down to the team not just a bad keeper.

Salzburg moved up to 2nd after an away win over Sturn Graz.
Wisdom came on in the 70th minute to sure things up after Upamecano was sent off for Salzburg.
This sending off may mean Wisdom now gets a run of games.

Lloyd Jones missed Swindons 4-0 defeat to Sheffiend Utd due to injury.

Sam Hart watched on as Port Vale lost 3-2 to Northampton

Sporting Lisbon missed out on the chance to top after losing 2-1 to Benfica. Markovic was not in the squad, I am guessing due to injury.

And there's your lot.

Frustrating result today for the reds, but the team and Klopp will turn things around. There are no easy games in the prem and we are still in the top 4 with breathing space.
Bring on Wednesday!


{Ed025's Note - good stuff mate..cheers..

1.) 12 Dec 2016 00:56:03
Thanks carra.

2.) 12 Dec 2016 05:56:19
Brilliant effort Cara 👍.

3.) 12 Dec 2016 09:46:11
Thanks Carra what's the crack with Flannagan?

4.) 13 Dec 2016 00:11:56
Thanks Carra.




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14 Jul 2017 20:29:53
Simeon Moses the actor?

Or simon Moses the footballer?




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08 Dec 2016 12:58:08
Hi Dermot,

Jack Dunns loan deal at Morecombe has ended. He is back at Anfield.




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08 Nov 2016 19:44:40
The only good thing about the break is I have the day off work to take my son to the game. But your right, I never look to the first match after the break. The squad always seems rusty.




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20 Sep 2016 17:03:37
Dunn is playing in league 2 so still a long way to go for him, but he is a regular for Morecambe which indicates he is not out of place at that level.

Ward and Kent have both picked up where they left off last season. Ward is getting rave reviews in Huddersfield and they are top of the championship so he is clearly doing well.
Kent again is a regular in the championship so does not look out of place at that level. For me at times he tries to do to much but he is young and learning.




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19 Sep 2016 15:46:02
Cheers dom.





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04 Aug 2017 17:05:05
We would fall into the Europa and play more games.




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14 Jul 2017 08:11:51
The summer of Roy Hodgson stills haunts me.




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21 Apr 2017 15:10:45
1-1 now Ko Lo. I am hoping for extra time.




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11 Apr 2017 17:04:05
Palaces back 4 all sit back, especially in the big games, often with a DM in front of them too.
So it is a complete different style of defending to what is expected at Liverpool.
Sakho is a good defender nobody questions that, but the style palace play is the reason he now looks like a world beater.




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15 Dec 2016 22:09:09
I will not watch us again until we lose without me watching.
The sad thing is I switched on the Bournemouth game at 3-1 up!
Everyone raves about our football this season but I am yet to see it lol.


{Ed025's Note - please watch on monday mate.. :)