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20 Mar 2018 10:37:21
Hi Eds,

I am not going to focus on the in's as you have given us great info already and as you say these things change all the time.

However is this a good summary of the expected outs?

GK - Mignolet, Ward

Def - Clynn, Klavan - What is the plan with Moreno do you know? will he be staying?

Mid - Can - also possibly one of Milner or Lallana?

Att - Sturridge - Also what is the plan for Solanke as he has not really kicked on? Possibly a loan?

Any info is greatly appreciated



{Ed001's Note - Klavan is a maybe on an out, Moreno is likely to stay for now. Too early to know with Solanke but a loan is very possible, it is more likely one of him or Ings ends up sold.}

1.) 20 Mar 2018 12:42:59
im hearing off a good source can is holding out in til his contract has a month left then he will sign for city.

2.) 20 Mar 2018 13:46:54
Would think Origi will leave, probably Kent.

3.) 20 Mar 2018 14:55:04
City can have Can for me if that's true, not sure he's progressed that much here, he'll end up warming their bench I'd guess.

4.) 20 Mar 2018 15:14:21
I think Klavan is a decent option to have around the club, seems a nice bloke with plenty of international experience (albeit for estonia) .
He's not going demand ludicrous wages and nor will he expect regular playing time.
IMO his form at start of season was better than Matip's and on par with Lover's.

5.) 20 Mar 2018 15:39:29
All this talk of Mignolet and Ward leaving and only one keeper coming in! Would this mean our third choice next season would be Bogdan (enter pained expression emoji here! ) am I right that his contract runs to June 2019.

Hopefully we can keep Ward but I understand he just wants to play can't blame the lad! It would be nice if Bodgan asked for his contract to be ripped up so he can find a team to play for!

Thanks Eds for all your insights and feedback.

{Ed001's Note - no, Bogdan is just with us to get back to full health.}

6.) 20 Mar 2018 16:43:12
I would rather keep Ings and loan Solanke with Origi and Sturridge sold.
Ings looks sharp whenever he comes on and seems far more likely to bag a goal. If god forbid Bobby got injured I would much rather (& have more confidence in) Ings up front than Solanke. We may well come good but to me looks a long way short of quality needed to be our first choice back up forward.

7.) 20 Mar 2018 16:46:13
Our third keeper will be exactly who our third keeper should be - an academy keeper who could theoretically stand in for an emergency but realistically will never play a game.

8.) 20 Mar 2018 17:28:19
I agree hjikle. A goalkeeping department of Karius, handonovic (my preferable for back up option) and shamal George.

9.) 20 Mar 2018 19:27:23
Give Solanke a break. Just because he didn't outplay the best front three in the league week in and week out means we should get rid? Ings has been shining in what little time he's had, but Solanke has that something special to pick up a fair few for us if we can get him a bit of time on the pitch with Salah or Mane. But the schedule ahead of us is too important to give youth a chance at the moment so Solanke will have to wait for next year.

10.) 20 Mar 2018 21:18:58
Would love to see both Ings and Origi kept, with Solanke loaned out.
Origi is probably closest thing we have to Firmino's style of play if Bobby was out, and I like Ings effort. He needs a goal or two for confidence though.
Klavan to go and Matip to stay. Clyne to go. Mignolet to go. Ward to go. Flanagan to go. That's about it for me I reckon.

11.) 20 Mar 2018 22:44:31
I wish Ward would be given a shot at the #2, although I'm sure he's looking for a #1 opportunity.



13 Mar 2018 11:02:27
Good Morning Redmen,

Hope you are all well and slowly recovering from the disappointment of the weekend.

Don't worry Carra is not here to spit at you, I am just going to provide the loan update :)

Harry Wilson started his first game since his injury lay off and the boy delivered with a MOTM performance.
Hull beat Norwich in a topsy Turvy 4-3 thriller with Wilson providing the assist for the opening goal.
Hull then found themselves 3-1 down but fought back to win with Wilson curling home the late winner!

It was a great week for Grujic last week scoring his first senior goal in their mid week win over Barnsley.
Cardiff's good form continued at the weekend beating Birmingham 3-2 with Grujic playing the full 90 in defensive mid.
Since Grujic joined Cardiff in has been 7 wins and 2 draws in the 9 games that he has featured.

Andy Firth made his first appearances for Chester last week, also his first matches at senior level.
Although it was a week to forget for Chester with back to back 2-0 defeats it was personally a week to remember for Firth.

There was a real shock in the Eredivisie at the weekend as relegation battling Willem II thrashed league leaders PSV 5-0!
Chirivella was at the heart of the win playing the full 90 in centre mid.

It was however a week to forget for Origi who was subbed before half time in Wolfsburgs 3-0 defeat to Hoffeinheim. Origi was not injured so you can only conclude he was having a shocker.

New Boy Arroyo's loan to Mallorca B is continuing to be a success as they beat Petra 3-0.
This is now 6 games unbeaten and a clean sheet in each of the last 4 games.

Flannaghan played twice last week for Bolton with both games finishing as 1-1 draws.
Both goals conceded unfortunately have a similar pattern. Flannaghan was beat for pace on the wing and the resulting crosses were converted.

Ojo made his first start since January for Fulham in their midweek win over Sheffield Utd. He was a late sub in their 2-1 over Preston at the weekend.

Ejaria has found himself at the wrong end of the championship and despite some spirited displays at the turn of the year things are now starting to look bleak for Sunderland.
Back to back defeats last week leave them rock bottom of the championship.
Ejaria however played the full 90 in both and is getting plenty of game time.

After a bright start to life at Bristol Ryan Kent has found himself on the subs bench in recent weeks.
Kent was again a sub at the weekend coming on for a late run out as they lost 2-1 to Preston.

Randall played the full 90 at RB as Hearts lost 2-0 in the Edinburgh derby to Hibs.

It was a hard week for Corey Whelan and Yeovil as they first lost 1-0 in the Semi final of the Football league trophy to Shrewsbury.
At the weekend they lost 2-0 to Newport County.

Keita grabbed himself an impressive assist in RBL's midweek Europa win over Zenit for which they won 2-1.
He also featured in a 0-0 draw at the weekend which has been described as a 'drab' affair.

Sturridge is still injured
Markovic was left out the squad
Allan was suspended

And that's your lot redmen

8 games left of the prem season, 16 points needed to reach the magic 76.
No team has ever reached 76 points and not finished in the top 4 for those that did not know.
4 wins, 4 draws, easy stuff. I expect us to do better than that anyway.


1.) 13 Mar 2018 11:35:32
Wilson’s displays have been brilliant and it’s really good to see Grujic getting good experience and learning. This experience could help us save money in the summer! Well done Colin W at Cardiff!

2.) 13 Mar 2018 12:37:43
Brilliant cheers Carra. If you had to pick one player who is on loan that you think could make a regular first teamer at Liverpool who would it be?

3.) 13 Mar 2018 13:19:29
Markp08 - does Keita count? ;)

Seriously though it's Wilson for me, we have no chance of buying someone good enough to cover a long injury for Salah or Mane but willing to sit on the bench when they are both fit. Our best chance for me is to raise one and Wilson has met every challenge at every level perfectly - developing him is our best chance of long term cover and competition for them and a ready made replacement in a couple of years should we need.

4.) 13 Mar 2018 13:38:58
What origi been like this season? Always liked him I thought time away would do him well.

{Ed002's Note - Started well but tailed off recently.}

5.) 13 Mar 2018 14:06:08
Hi Mark,

Its impossible to say really as all youth players need an element of luck to break into the first team. For example Wilson has had a terrific season for our u23's and has started his loan well at Hull, however when he returns to Liverpool he needs to try and force his way into a team that already consists of a front 3 of Salah, Firmino and Mane, then the likes of Ings, Solanke, Woodburn on the bench.

I would say our most consistent loanee this season has been Chirivella. he's playing in a top division and has been a mainstay in their central midfield all season long. Lots of other Loanees have been in and out of their teams due to form or injuries.

Of those currently on loan I would say either Chirivella or Grujic as our CM needs improving and is our weakest area, one of them could capitalise on the changes that are going to happen.

6.) 13 Mar 2018 14:35:02
Nice one Carra, I didn't know Chirivella was doing so well. I always liked Grujic I think he is technically gifted.

Like you say it is very very hard for a young player to break into our first team and hold a regular place.

Thanks keep up your fine work, much appreciated.

7.) 13 Mar 2018 14:47:52
I think it would be ideal if Cardiff get promoted and Grujic gets a season with them in PL before bringing him back if he performs. He needs game time and experience for such a critical position IMO. I think in time he’ll be an excellent 6.

Wilson I wasn’t sure how he’d perform at senior level but the lads doing very well.

8.) 13 Mar 2018 15:19:18
Agreed SG with both players. My slight reservation is Grujic's tackling, but he is very young and could be a top player.

9.) 13 Mar 2018 15:35:39
I would rather have Wilson in squad now instead of lallana, I think lallana is going to leave in summer an he seems too have lost his way, yes he has been injury prone but not good enough for key position we rely on, I really like Wilson would love him too do well, he seems too have knack for scoring goals, he is also creative an would improve playing with the quality we have in 1st team hope we don't let him drift away he too good for that.

10.) 13 Mar 2018 13:55:18
Not world class then yet Ed?

Rodgers really did make some strange statements.

{Ed002's Note - He did indeed.}

11.) 13 Mar 2018 15:49:53
The play breaks down a lot from Lallana, all those turns he makes himself dizzy. Someone more direct with end product would be much better. I agree sell now while we can get a decent return.

We need to get the new midfielders in asap so they can play together in pre season.

12.) 13 Mar 2018 22:56:25

What was the score tonight?

2-1 Jamie lad, 2-1 😄

Got to love a bit of karma 😎.

13.) 14 Mar 2018 15:51:41
Nice one carra mate.

sounds like a lot of the younger lads are doing top notch! Wilson especially :) Nice to see grujic getting game time.

also im sure a lot of pool fans are feeling better seeing Sevilla outclass those mancs. They talked so much about how they will bash sevilla and show us how it's done. Nice one lads!

14.) 14 Mar 2018 19:13:22
Would love to see Wilson given some game time next year.



07 Mar 2018 01:48:57
HI Ed's,

The papers are reporting young Ryan Sessegnon of Fulham favours a move to us over any of our rivals.

Any truth to this do you know? Am I correct in thinking he's a Liverpool fan?

Also are Liverpool interested in player? I imagine we are keeping tabs on him like most teams are as he's a top talent.


{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he wants or who he supports. Liverpool have certainly been interested.}

1.) 07 Mar 2018 10:43:43
I think every club in the northern hemisphere is keeping tabs on him.

Outstanding talent for someone so young, a lot of respect for him staying as he’s clearly developing nicely.

As much a I would love him at Liverpool I do think he is best staying at Fulham they are playing lovely football at the moment and with a chance of premiership football next year as well.

Remember he legally can’t drink! He should be in no rush.

I would also say people calling for him at LB, he is going to be a winger in the future in my opinion. He is playing more and more forward from last season and taking it with both hands.

{Ed001's Note - he has said he prefers to play a more attacking role.}

2.) 07 Mar 2018 11:04:48
Thanks Ed.

With the above in mind and knowing he wants a more attacking role in the future a move to liverpool at this time would not be great for him. He wouldn't dislodge any of our current front 3 and therefore would spend a lot of the season on the bench.

3.) 07 Mar 2018 11:46:08
Could he not play left back and cover the left wing now and again with a view of taking the left wing full time in the future?

4.) 07 Mar 2018 14:40:19
Perhaps Ojo has been 'talking up' the club abit?

Dont really know much about the lad but I know he has potential, perhaps he could be a rotation option for a few different positions which could be handy.

He'll have to decide whether he will benefit more from 1st team football at Fulham or rotating at a top prem club.

5.) 07 Mar 2018 14:58:03
This would be ideal opportunity to follow a similar model to that adopted by Chelsea on many occasions.

Pretty obvious he is going to be, if he’s not already, a huge talent.
Sign him but loan him back for a couple of seasons. Doesn’t stunt his development, he can compete in EPL or top end of Championship and we have a future player in the wings.

6.) 07 Mar 2018 15:33:13
However a deal with a loan back for a season or two would be great. With the speculation over Salah and RM, it would be nice to have Sessegnon available and match fit. Even if our front three stay together and fit for the next 3 seasons, Sessegnon will still only be 20.

7.) 07 Mar 2018 23:00:02
never seen ryan play. he is only a kid right! but interested in the opinion of those who have watched him. does he show glimpses in his game of being positional / tactically flexible for our front 3?

It may seem an odd question to ask, but for the same reason that I don't see moreno ever being an option in the front 3 other than an end of game time-wasting sub, I would assume that ryan would have to give more than be fast and left-footed to squeeze himself into our forward line.

am very aware that he is young and will develop etc. just interested in what people have seen.

8.) 08 Mar 2018 14:40:54
It really looks like he will end up at Spurs, it would be a good move for him, closer to home, he is only 17 yrs young I think .

9.) 09 Mar 2018 09:53:43
@faithinworks. When he first started playing for LFC, he had a great burst of speed and struck the ball well. He showed that physically he could cope playing against men who were often several years older than him. Could shield the ball pretty well and his first touch wasn't bad either.

However, one of his big weaknesses was that he clearly didn't know how to make the most of his skills and would often run down blind channels. Also when he got the ball if he couldn't shoot then he didn't really know what to do with it. However he has come on greatly since then and makes much more intelligent runs and brings his team mates into it much better.

He looks much more comfortable making runs into space out wide so that his team mates can cut inside. Personally I think he has the potential to succeed - but he has to want to work on it. Only his coach would know that. One weakness is that he has had issues with racism and sad to say, he is going to have to develop resilience to that as the racist numpties are not going to go away.

If anything I suspect that they are going to come harder at him because he has shown he is vulnerable to it. To succeed at the top, he has to be mentally tough.



27 Feb 2018 13:59:14
Good afternoon Redmen,

Hope you are all keeping well.
It was another relatively straightforward victory at the weekend which was nice to see.
We look so much more composed in defence Since Karius has come in for Migs and VVD has joined. Not perfect, but much better.

Awoniyi has had a great personal season at RSM and this continued at the weekend as he scored in their 5-3 defeat to Anderlecht. Awoniyi now has 8 goals and 6 assists to his name which is not a bad return for a club fighting relegation in the Belgium top division.

On the winning side of the 5-3 encounter was Markovic as he made his debut for Anderlecht. Reports say he didn't offer much but it was pleasing to see him get his first run out.

Another loanee making his debut was Flanaghan at Bolton. On at CB for the final 20 minutes Flannaghan helped Bolton keep a clean sheet in their 0-0 draw with Norwich.

Two more reds faced each other at the weekend as Kent's Bristol played Grujic's Cardiff.
However the two promising reds starlets found themselves on the bench!
Grujic was an unused sub whilst Kent got a 20 minute run out.
Cardiff won the game 1-0 as they pulled away from the chasing pack in second spot.

Another sub but for different reasons was Ojo. Returning from a 6 game injury Ojo came off the bench with 20 minutes left as Fulham beat league leaders Wolves.

Whelan made his 5th start in a row for Yeovil at RB as they lost 1-0 to Carlisle. Despite the reuslt it is good to see him getting regular game time.

Virtue played one pass as he came on in the 93rd minute of Notts 1-0 defeat to Cambridge.

Origi was given the nod as the main striker in Bruno Labbadia's first game in charge. However the loanee done little to suggest that the role was his to keep giving an disappointing display in their 1-1 draw with Mainz.

Chirivella played the full 90 AS Willem II got a crucial 1-0 win at home to Roda JC.
Chirivella has been in the heart of their midfield all season and must be getting some great experience.

Allan returned to the starting line up and was extremely impressive as they beat Ethnikos 4-1. The battle for top spot continues.

Arroyo's unbeaten start to life in Mallorca B's continued as they won 1-0 against Alcudia.

Keita, Sturridge, Wilson and Ejaria all missed the weekends action due to injuries

And that's your lot.


1.) 27 Feb 2018 14:12:11
Cheers carra mate :)

2.) 27 Feb 2018 14:42:32
Will be interesting to see what happens with Awoniyi, hope he gets a call up for some of Nigeria's friendlies, maybe it could help with a work permit in the future.

3.) 27 Feb 2018 14:57:47
And thank you so much for doing the update man!

4.) 27 Feb 2018 16:12:00
Hi thanks keep up the good work.

5.) 27 Feb 2018 19:39:15
Legend 23 😘.

6.) 27 Feb 2018 21:24:53
Ron and Carra sitting in the tree. 🙊.

7.) 27 Feb 2018 22:46:12
Rons way out of my league.

8.) 28 Feb 2018 01:47:53
"The Ron League"

9.) 28 Feb 2018 13:11:17
Carra that was gold.

10.) 28 Feb 2018 18:31:52
Good work Carra
From all of our loanees who if any do people think stand the best chance of making any sort of impact in the 1st team squad.
Personally although klopp might give anyone who's good enough the chance no matter what age, I see it as difficult as ever for any of them getting in with the quality we now have. Possibly those who will were kept at the club. Ie gomez, Trent woodburn. Grujic might but it's clear we will look to add another and ojo has shown glimpses but he's a hell of a lot of competition.

11.) 28 Feb 2018 20:09:43
Chirivella is highly thought of and having a very good season on loan. He could find himself in and around the main squad in the next few seasons if his progress continues.

12.) 03 Mar 2018 17:16:45
Cheers carra great update and it is good to see some of them getting at least a 20 minute run out.

Although, I can’t believe you spelt Flano's name wrong both times ;_; there is no 'h' ;) haha.



22 Feb 2018 10:04:18
Hi Eds,

I have a question about Ojo.
What are the clubs plans for him this summer?
His loan to Fulham has not been particularly successful, in large due to injuries. However he also missed most of the season before due to injuries as well.

I imagine an ineffective two year spell has knocked him down the pecking order at the club, so my question is 'Do the club plan to sell him in the summer? or will he get another season to try and salvage his position at the club? '



{Ed001's Note - it is too early yet mate. Summer is a long way off and he still has time to change things.}

1.) 22 Feb 2018 11:42:57
I think this is the issue with the uk in youth,

You get to 19 and if you aren’t scoring every week everyone claims you won’t make it.

I think the pressure of this doesn’t help the system, you look at European equivalents and some players don’t break through till 22/ 23.

He is still very young in the grand scheme of things and I’m hoping that Klopp is instilling a better image for players to relax and just enjoy their football.

A prime example is Woodburn, came onto the scene out of no where and now he has barely played does that mean he isn’t good enough, no bloody way! He’s 18 just let him keep enjoying it keep working hard and don’t worry about whether you are making the team or not.

2.) 22 Feb 2018 11:52:19
Thanks Ed.

I hope I am wrong but I fear he is another young player with potential that picked up injuries at the wrong time.

3.) 22 Feb 2018 12:58:13
I hope he can crack on between now and summer and show his worth because this lad has potential, real potential. I've followed him for quite a while now and was a bit gutted he went out on loan but at the same time was hoping it'd help him more. I now fear his time with us is about to come to an end, fingers crossed this isn't the case and luck is on his side a little more. I think the last time I was as excited about one of our youngsters was Suso, we have some great other youngsters of course but them 2 stood out for me.

4.) 22 Feb 2018 14:12:28
I like Ojo think he can be great, injuries are a bit too frequent however.




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07 Mar 2018 20:53:01
Hi All,

Sorry for the late notice but I was away at the weekend and so was not able to keep up with the loanees. Due to weather lots of games were suspended anyway

I will be back with the loan update next week as normal.


1.) 07 Mar 2018 21:13:43
For anyone interested -

Grujic played last nights game as Cardiff won 2-1 against Barnsley. He showed why Klopp rates him and why he's not starting for us. Scored a beautiful long range goal in the bottom right hand corner but was woeful with his passing and was hooked by Warnock as the ref said he would send him off for one more bad challenge.

Ojo continued his comeback from injury and played 60 mins out wide on the right in Fulham's 3-0 win over Sheffield. He played well and will figure in their promotion push if he stays fit.

Ejaria was the only bright spark in Sunderland's woeful 3-0 loss to Villa. He tries to make this happen from Midfield, can dribble, tackle and pass.

Kent has lost his place in the last few weeks and is figuring from the bench. Got 25 minutes as Bristol lost 2-1.

Flanagan played the full 90 for Bolton for the first time as they drew to Reading.

Wilson came off the bench, his first appearance since he suffered a shoulder injury v Chelsea. He played 30 mins in a 2-1 loss to Milwall and provided the assist for Hull's only goal.

2.) 07 Mar 2018 21:33:29
I suppose your allowed a week off Carra ;) lol

Cheers Imred.

3.) 07 Mar 2018 22:01:46
Grujic is a red card waiting to happen, I don't think he will play for Liverpool again. I do worry about the others like Kent he seems to have found his level (bottom half of the championship) . I hope one of the loanees makes it in our first team.

4.) 07 Mar 2018 22:11:38
Thanks lads 👍.

5.) 07 Mar 2018 22:47:02
Grujic can learn, I still feel there’s a solid no.6 in there somewhere. Think Ojo has everything, hope he does well second half of the season and stays for next to get lots of game time, wouldn’t mind him coming back in a couple of years with lots of Championship experience under his belt and after a full season hopefully injury free. Wilson has been productive too so far.

Thanks for the update.

6.) 07 Mar 2018 22:47:18
I watch Ryan Kent running rings round bayern's right back and causing them problems. He is inexperienced and will get better. Barter than a bottom half of championship player. I bet he becomes a premier league player. Not sure if it will be at liverpool, I hope so.

Cheers carra.

7.) 07 Mar 2018 23:03:17
I genuinely think Colin ****er will help Grujic. I like his nasty streak, he just has to keep it in check.

8.) 08 Mar 2018 07:05:29
Thanks imred 👍.

9.) 08 Mar 2018 16:04:34
Oh yeah, cheers Imred! I thought that update was from carragold23, I'm so used to seeing his updates. It is always interesting and nice to hear how the loanees are doing, thanks to both of you for taking the time to fill us in.



13 Feb 2018 15:36:26
{Ed's Note - 23carragold has posted the Liverpool FC loan report today 13 Feb 2018


1.) 13 Feb 2018 15:51:58
Thanks Carra!

2.) 13 Feb 2018 15:59:23
Cheers Carra.

3.) 13 Feb 2018 18:26:47
I actually managed to catch some of the Cardiff game this weekend and I have to say I was disappointed with Grujic. He wasn't bad as such, but if he was being deployed in a deep lying you could have fooled me. He was all over the shop, showing talent aplenty but there was an obvious hole in the line where he wasn't showing the discipline he needed to and leaving Cardiff exposed.

A better team in the division (or worse support from his Cardiff colleagues) who have shown him up as very exposed very quickly. He looks a talented guy who will definitely play top league football, but he's got to be using his head more and doing the job he's given as a priority if he wants to work his way into Klopp's team.

4.) 13 Feb 2018 22:15:15
Much appreciated Carra. thanks.

5.) 14 Feb 2018 03:54:04
Lfc, converting attackong midfielders into defensive midfielders and suffering for it since ages ago.



11 Feb 2018 08:08:51
Morning Ed2,

A question for you on the European break away league.

What is the likely timescale of this happening, if there is one?
Is it likely to happen within say the next 10 years? Or sooner?

Sorry if you answered this or similar already, I had a look but couldn't see that you had.

Thanks a bunch



{Ed002's Note - Timing wise, two very prominent clubs wanted it to happen as soon as possible (2018 was their plan in 2015 – obviously not a chance) and they had the support of a third club - but most are looking at 2022 to 2025 being a good option. A few clubs are looking at 2025 to 2028 and I suspect that could end up as the reality.}

1.) 11 Feb 2018 09:37:20
Thanks Ed,

Your reply as always very much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

2.) 11 Feb 2018 10:17:14
STANLEY VICTOR COLLYMORE spewing rubbish about the reds.
Would this be the STANLEY VICTOR COLLYMORE who played in a team with
NEIL RUDDOCK and PHILL KEBABB as centre-halves and one DAVID JAMES throwing the ball in the net. AHHH it was so much better in your day STANLEY VICTOR winning all those trophies. not.

3.) 11 Feb 2018 10:36:02
"You wildly underestimate how popular it will be"

This was part of a reponse you gave to Mikey1985 in an earlier thread.

When you say how popular it will be, do you mean amongst fans or is this just commercially from your point of view. I appreciate that you say that this is just natural progression but i would think most fans would not want to see their Premier League or La Liga etc ripped up and not play teams they have played for decades, very succesfully at that.

So is this just a case of footballing big wigs (owners etc) doing what the want and not giving two hoots about what fans think is a good idea? Has anyone even asked the fans? I know you say that you get to watch Juventus, Madrid etc every other week but i would rather watch the more British teams. Personally i think getting to play the cream of European teams 3/ 4 times a season is perfect and keeps it exciting for the fans so to speak.

Like i have said, maybe the fans are at the bottom of the pile, "who cares what they think? " Might be the answer! I can see it being a massive turn off for fans and tv fans alike. I think the fans want their "grass roots" football, such as the Wba, West Ham games and i would guess it would be the same in Italy, Germany and Spain etc.

{Ed002's Note - Only two English sides have made the commitment and it is likely the third club involved will as well. So you can happily carry on in a similar manner to now watching "British" teams (I assume you meant English) - but there will be less money for the remaining sides. But eventually, regardless of all of this, the English game needs a massive shake up as there are too many professional sides and it cannot be sustained. English clubs don't get to play the elite of European football three or four times a season - only those that qualify for the Champions League have that opportunity and they also have to mix it with the Tromso's and Hadjuk Split's. The plan is that about 16 teams will end up in a league and will play each other side twice a season. The trade off is that they will break away from their domestic leagues. And plenty fans have been spoken to about this over the years but their view is not a driver for anything (the same as now in fact).)

4.) 11 Feb 2018 13:30:15
Interesting that some people don’t want a European breakaway league as it will be to the detriment of the EPL.

I assume that those who would favour the English set up staying as it and having an elite top-flight weren’t around when exactly the same arguments were banded about over discussion over the EPL- which then creamed off broadcasting rights and left the rest of the English game to suffer.

Football moves with the times. Other than major exceptions (Leicester being one) many European leagues have the same teams winning them or on co tension year-on-year.
The rest of the top flight teams are in essence playing for revenue off the back of their finishing position.
If the major clubs with most sending power in each top flight were removed- and income from broadcasting shared more equally between the rest - then you would probably see more competitive domestic leagues.

Below this, as the Ed’s have suggested, football is restructured then it’s good for the game. More competitive, more regionalised- and a Pan-European League above that.



07 Feb 2018 08:54:24
Corey Whelan has started life well at Yeovil.

Last night he made his debut against Fleetwood in the EFL Trophy quarter final.

Yeovil won 3-2 with a last minute winner to reach the semis with Corey scoring Yeovil's second.




06 Feb 2018 14:17:47
Good Afternoon Redmen,

Lots of activity from the reds over the last few days of the window means we have nice long list of players on loan :)

Lazar Markovic (Remember him) completed a loan move to Champions League chasing Anderlecht who drew 2-2 with KV Mecchelen on Sunday.
Markovic was not in the squad.

Another player to get a loan late in the window was Harry Wilson but not before he signed a new deal with the reds if I remember correctly?
Wilson has been scoring goals for fun for the u23 and hopefully he will carry this form into the championship where he has joined relegation threatened Hull.
It was not the ideal start for Wilson however as despite a late sub appearance he was unable to prevent Hull losing 2-1 away to Preston.

A former cult hero but now destined to leave the club Jon Flannaghan moved to Bolton on loan on the last day of the window. Another relegation threatened club.
Jon was on the bench Sunday as Bolton beat Bristol 1-0.

Ejaria found himself loaned to Sunderland late in the window and thrown straight into action as Sunderland desperately fight relegation!
He started in a 3 man midfield alongside the talented Lee Catermole. but could not help Sunderland avoid defeat losing 2-0 to Ipswich.

A player we all want to see do well is Danny Sturridge who found himself loaned to West Brom late in the window.
Sturridge started for West Brom at the weekend but was subbed off afer the hour mark for a pretty subdued performance as West Brom lost 3-2 at home to Saints.

Awoniyi came off the subs bench as REM lost 1-0 at home to GENK.
REM sit comfortably 10 points above the drop but 11 points below European spots. The true definition of midtable mediocracy.

Apollon and Allan had the dream start in their top of the table clash with APOEL taking the lead after 20 minutes, however in the space of a crazy 15 minute spell in the second half they conceded twice and got a red card eventually losing 2-1.
They now sit 2nd 2 points behind their rivals with 4 games left to play.

Origi started and scored the opener as Wolfsburg faced Stuttgart at home.
Unfortunately Stuttgart equalised after and hour with the game finishing 1-1.
As things stand Wolfsburg are only 4 points above the drop.

Chirivella played for 70 minutes as Willem II lost 1-0 to bootom of the table Sparta, the goal coming from the fantastically named Fred Friday.
The result was not ideal for Willem as they now sit just 1 point above the drop zone.

Connor Randall played for 45 but got subbed at half time due to a slight knock as Hearts beat St Johnstone 1-0.

Ojo again sat out through injury as Fulham beat Nottingham Forest 2-0.

Naby Keita got an assist and scored an 8.2 on Opta stats as RBL won 1-0 away to B M'Gladbach.
The win sees RBL move to 3rd 1 point above Schalke in 5th. The Bundesliga is even closer then the prem with only 4 points separating 2nd and 8th!

Corey Whelan was an unused sub as Yeovil beat Cambridge 2-0.

Virute did not make the squad as Notts County beat Crewe 4-1.

Ryan Kent played the full 90 as promotion chasing Bristol suffered a shock defeat to Bolton. His stats for the game suggest his was the worst player on the pitch scoring a lousy 5.2 on Opta.

Grujic seems to of settled into life well at Cardiff and has been an ever present in their midfield since his move.
Grujic played for 80 mins at the weekend as Cardiff beat Leeds 4-1. He picked up a booking for his troubles.
Cardiff sit 4th in the league just 3 points and a game in hand behind Derby who hold the second automatic promotion spot.

And that's your lot Redmen.


1.) 06 Feb 2018 14:56:39
"the talented Lee Catermole" - that really made me chuckle

Amazing review though Carra, nice one!

2.) 06 Feb 2018 15:08:35
Surprised Pep hasn't come in for some of them!

3.) 06 Feb 2018 16:17:16
Thanks Carra top man.

4.) 07 Feb 2018 08:24:04
Excellent thanks carra.




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13 Mar 2018 14:06:08
Hi Mark,

Its impossible to say really as all youth players need an element of luck to break into the first team. For example Wilson has had a terrific season for our u23's and has started his loan well at Hull, however when he returns to Liverpool he needs to try and force his way into a team that already consists of a front 3 of Salah, Firmino and Mane, then the likes of Ings, Solanke, Woodburn on the bench.

I would say our most consistent loanee this season has been Chirivella. he's playing in a top division and has been a mainstay in their central midfield all season long. Lots of other Loanees have been in and out of their teams due to form or injuries.

Of those currently on loan I would say either Chirivella or Grujic as our CM needs improving and is our weakest area, one of them could capitalise on the changes that are going to happen.




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07 Mar 2018 11:04:48
Thanks Ed.

With the above in mind and knowing he wants a more attacking role in the future a move to liverpool at this time would not be great for him. He wouldn't dislodge any of our current front 3 and therefore would spend a lot of the season on the bench.




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28 Feb 2018 20:09:43
Chirivella is highly thought of and having a very good season on loan. He could find himself in and around the main squad in the next few seasons if his progress continues.




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27 Feb 2018 22:46:12
Rons way out of my league.




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22 Feb 2018 11:52:19
Thanks Ed.

I hope I am wrong but I fear he is another young player with potential that picked up injuries at the wrong time.





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16 Mar 2018 16:30:47
I don't believe City are a much better team than us. On paper if both teams played to 100% then they would edge it, however football doesn't work like that.

As good as they have been City have been handed the league second half of the season, case and point that Chelsea performance.
Teams have waved the white flag and rolled over for City before a ball has been kicked. Three teams gave them a fight, us, Wigan and Bristol.

If the boys play to their best and have a bit of luck we will make it to the semi's. One thing is for certain, Anfield will need to be rocking for the first leg!




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15 Mar 2018 06:34:32
That’s saints going down. The most overrated manager in prem history. He has literallly destroyed every club he’s been at! Apart from city but he did spend a lot of money on dross.
Look what he’s done to qpr!




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13 Mar 2018 12:22:12
Thanks guys.
As in all cases it was a small minority, but they like to ruin it for everyone.

The worst part was when he told the missus when we got home! I was in her bad books for weeks!




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13 Mar 2018 11:11:36
I once took my son to the Liverpool v Barcelona game at Wembley, he was 5 at the time.
As it was at Wembley he wanted to wear his England shirt which had Rooney on the back, I didn't think much of it as it was only a friendly game.

After the game a group of Liverpool fans started yelling abuse at him which carried on for a good couple minutes as we left the stadium, he was terrified and cried most the way home.

I have not taken him to a game since and he doesn't particularly want to go to one.




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08 Mar 2018 07:05:29
Thanks imred 👍.