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18 Jun 2017 22:52:50
Any news on the Ox ed's? Is he signing a new contract or looking to move?

McRed

{Ed025's Note - at this juncture it looks like he will stay with arsenal Mc..


1.) 18 Jun 2017 23:13:05
Hope he signs that new contract!


2.) 19 Jun 2017 13:00:19
Awesome news, thanks Ed025. ;)


3.) 19 Jun 2017 16:39:54
If he signs for us, Sturridge will be happy to have him for company.

Arsene Wenger might happily sell him to LFC and get out 4th place.

:-)


4.) 19 Jun 2017 21:30:31
Yeah, The Ox is the main reason Arsenal didn't finish in the top 4! GTFO! I don't particularly rate him very highly but he was one of their better players towards the end of the season. I think Wenger is the main problem at Arsenal not the players, they have tons of quality at Arsenal.


5.) 20 Jun 2017 13:28:13
Wen gers doubters at arsenal should be ashamed. He steered that club through a difficult time financially, new ground and that. Record breaking manager who turned down real madrid.


6.) 20 Jun 2017 16:48:39
Wenger has probably outstayed his time but having watched Arsenal a few times the laziness and what looked like couldn't give a fornication attitude of some of those quality players they have was every bit as much to blame for their position.


 

 

06 Jun 2017 11:38:47
The press association have said Southampton have asked the Premier League to investigate alleged illegal approach from Liverpool for VVD!

McRed

1.) 06 Jun 2017 12:02:34
Nothing will come of this.

They have done this before with Toby and are just trying to please there fans in thinking that there trying to keep him.


2.) 06 Jun 2017 12:06:43
Does this mean the "deal" is now in serious jeopardy? Or is it just Soton trying to wrestle back some fee control? What a pain!

{Ed001's Note - no way to be sure yet.}


3.) 06 Jun 2017 12:12:13
Liverpool contacted Southampton in March to ask for permission to talk to Van Dijk.


4.) 06 Jun 2017 12:31:33
I'm glad you are all so optimistic, it's not the first time we have been criticized for actions involving transfers.


5.) 06 Jun 2017 12:29:16
Have no other clubs talked to the player or his reps?


6.) 06 Jun 2017 12:45:19
BigD that can't be true if ed001 asserts we only started pursuing him until his agent approached us.


7.) 06 Jun 2017 12:53:10
EDs If they know VVD wants to leave for Liverpool and they are willing to accept the offer what do Southampton have to gain from this?

{Ed001's Note - stopping other clubs unsettling their players in future.}


8.) 06 Jun 2017 12:59:33
I'd be salty too if I was a feeder club like Southampton 😂.


9.) 06 Jun 2017 13:03:53
Ed, has the permission got to be in writing or would a verbal response be enough?

{Ed001's Note - verbal agreements are binding in law.}


10.) 06 Jun 2017 13:25:55
Robin in the Hood believe what you want, im just passing on info from several people. They tried the same tactics before so im not at all worried.


11.) 06 Jun 2017 13:30:32
At the very least, possibly best, case scenario, will this delay any pending deal a good while?


12.) 06 Jun 2017 13:23:11
Thanks Ed, I thought that too, but just needed confirmation.


13.) 06 Jun 2017 13:28:32
Seems a strange thing for Southampton to do ed, we must have an excellent relationship with them as we buy so many of their players, wouldn't Southampton reporting us muddy the waters a bit.

{Ed001's Note - we don't have an excellent relationship with them.}


14.) 06 Jun 2017 13:28:40
ED01 it was suggested that VVD's agent approached us and that we had no interest in signing a CB this summer but as the player was interested in joining then we have moved forward with this.

I am slightly confused and a little disappointed if we have not learnt from previous mistakes as we should of approached the club at that point.

Do you know anymore other than what the press are saying on it ED01?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - not yet.}


15.) 06 Jun 2017 13:40:41
How can you prove a verbal agreement has been in place? I smell a rat.


16.) 06 Jun 2017 13:50:17
Can't believe we've been that stupid. Lfc lawyers would have been advising. Saints grasping at straws.


17.) 06 Jun 2017 14:42:13
Players have agents and if that is considered illegal then every club is liable.


18.) 06 Jun 2017 14:54:05
We either wanted a CB or we didn't. I can't believe that Klopp didn't want one but then suddenly said ' oh yeah we do that's a good idea ' just because vvd's agent says he wants to join.

{Ed025's Note - i think he read on here that you need one kimos.. :)


19.) 06 Jun 2017 16:36:52
Ha! If that's the case Ed then we can look forward to a whole new team!

{Ed025's Note - your right there mate..


20.) 06 Jun 2017 18:08:47
Yeah Ed0025 :)


21.) 07 Jun 2017 15:37:47
So basically they are saying we didn't ask permission to speak to vvd. but they gave permission to chelsea and city. So they basically saying he's for sale . once that decision is made it should be a free for all for any interested parties to speak to the player. what a rubbish rule. They just wanted a bidding war between city and Chelsea, vvd stated he wanted liverpool transfer and they've spat their dummy out. This is 50 million southampton. greedy sods.


 

 

28 Jan 2016 18:27:51
Evening Ed's

Danny Murphy has suggested that Gary Cahill would be an ideal signing for Liverpool. Do you know the situation regarding Cahill, is he wanting to leave Chelsea?

Cheers.

McRed

{Ed002's Note - You really need the Chelsea page for this but as Mr Murphy has suggested he might be a decent buy I will say a little perhaps. Firstly I don't know what the player wants but right now the interim manager is picking Kurt Zouma ahead of him. Whilst Chelsea are just about to sign a new centre back they have let one leave (who won't be coming back). As such it seems unlikely that Chelsea would want to sell in January but if an acceptable offer were made then the club would not stand in the way of the player if he wanted to leave. It is also fair to say two other things of note: (a) Chelsea are aware of another side who will look for a deal for Cahill in the coming days, (b) Liverpool are overrun with centre backs and looking to add Matip for next season - so an offer now is perhaps not a priority for them.}


1.) 28 Jan 2016 22:04:15
Whilst we may be awash with CBs how many of them are proven to that level and playing to the level we need. If Cahill were interested he'd be a good buy until we can settle longer term side.


2.) 28 Jan 2016 22:22:54
ed you say overrun with centre backs but i'd argue none of them are of good enough quality and we had to play consecutive games with a player being played out of position at CB (Lucas vs stoke and Enrique in fa cup) so we don't exactly have too many CB's, yes I know we were struck with a stupidly unlucky spell of injuries but i'd say that Sakho and Toure are now injury prone, caulkers gone at the end of the season (along with toure) and Lovren gets more than his fair share of injuries. Therefore if a CB of the quality and as proven as Cahill became available at a sensible price I would've thought it'd be a great deal for us and more beneficial than signing yet another attacking midfielder to be played out of position up front (Teixera)

{Ed002's Note - Lovren, Sakho, Skrtel, Toure, Caulker is overrun. Yes, they had to make do when folks were injured in a couple of games. Tough.}


3.) 28 Jan 2016 22:32:46
I see no point in signing him, never really been impressed by him, plus at 30 years old and on a whacking great salary (new contract only signed last year? ), would be a complete waste of money.


4.) 28 Jan 2016 23:24:12
Are there any positions we aren't "overrun" with players for? . its buy to improve not buy to bulk up, personally I think Cahill would be ideal, he has a desire to play and a desire to prove himself fit for an England shirt this summer.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has a massively bloated squad and a set of fans who don't appreciate any of them. The owners have provided funding for the marquee players demanded by the fans (Benteke being the latest) and still the fans bleat and moan like pre-pubescent girls. There is no winning as far as the club goes. Fans have jeered the team and a previous manager this season dragging down the team and demoralizing - and now months later they are looking for excuses for the new manager. The money has been borrowed creating significant debt - but the fans crave money to be spent not worry about who on - as long as it is lots of money. It is a sad indictment of the modern day football fan - and Liverpool is not the only club where this is happening we are seeing the same at Manchester United who now have the modern day toxic fan base of their own. Liverpool fans pretty much expect the players to all be changed in the summer for the German "superstars" they are holding their dicks over at the moment. Then we will be back to the usual cycle - debt, transition, excuses, transition, Stevie G comes out of prison and takes over as the manager, new players, more debt, transition, yadda, yadda, yadda.}


5.) 28 Jan 2016 23:56:18
Sorry Ed but it was Rodgers appalling tactics that dragged the team down. Had been like that for 18 months. Do agree that we don't need Cahill. considering that Lovren is close to fitness we'd be over run with centre backs.


6.) 29 Jan 2016 00:01:51
I would of said flicking instead of holding ed.


7.) 29 Jan 2016 00:09:18
I have to agree with you ed002: the same fans who harp on about there being a summer clear out will be the first to slag off any new arrivals as soon as we lose a game. Expectations are ludicrous and understanding is nonexistent.


8.) 29 Jan 2016 00:16:27
So true Ed002,I blame the Xbox and the football manager game they got for Xmas.


9.) 29 Jan 2016 01:37:55
..............cretinous post removed...............

{Ed002's Note - There is always one brain dead dumb fuck like you. And you do personify the moronic vegetable life that some football fans live. Just the knuckle dragging moron who wants to make it about someone else. Truly an embarrassment for Liverpool fans everywhere.}


10.) 29 Jan 2016 07:41:14
Not for one second do i think that Liverpool are buying players due to fan pressure. Nor have i heard Liverpool fans jeering players or even the manager. I think its too easy to lay the blame of everything wrong at Lfc at the feet of the fans. The fans don't pick the players or get taken in by 100 page dossiers. They might suggest players on here, but what do they know? They don't scout them and then massively over pay for them, only to be sold at a fraction of the cost. I would suggest the results demoralize the team, its all there for everyone to see. Maybe some discontent at Anfield, yes but jeering no. Show some clips of the fans jeering the ex manager and fans. Easy to say and harder to prove in my opinion. I have said this before but the issue with Lfc starts at the very top, starting with Fsg. If the don't make the right appointments then it has a ripple effect all the way thru the club. If they are buying players and sacking and indeed hiring managers then they are not such the great owners that you say they are. Hiring Dalglish on the fans advise and still buying players 5 years later to appease the fans as you suggest? There is your starting point. Cheers.


11.) 29 Jan 2016 14:13:14
Ed I agree that Liverpool is overloaded with players but that is only because year after year we overpay and buy average players who are not good enough then we are stuck with them because most teams won't pay what we need so we can at least redeem some money. Yes we want marquee signings but I can tell you the majority of the fans did not want Benteke, Balotelli, Borini, Carrol especially at the prices we paid. We moan because no one listens to what the fans want. Its not all spend spend spend we want value for money, a player that will earn his fee and huge salary. We spend huge amounts of money buying players that go out on loan and then spend more money on replacing them with players who are no better than what we allraedy had. Its a joke, our transfer committee is useless they are the ones putting the club into debt. The right players are out there at the right price for example Deli Ali, but no he was not worth the gamble but £20 mil on Markovic was. The transfer committee should all be sacked as they have not got a clue.

Rex.

{Ed002's Note - Obviously that isn't going to happen.}


 

 

18 Jan 2016 09:45:41
According to Spanish website Don Balon, we have entered the race to sign Javier Hernandez. Have you heard anything eds? How reliable is this source?


Cheers.

McRed

{Ed001's Note - considering they snapped up the name of a defunct magazine, I would suggest it is not that reliable.}


1.) 18 Jan 2016 22:44:24
Having played for utd and his current club in one season is he allowed to play for a third club in one season ed?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


2.) 18 Jan 2016 23:55:44
Thanks Ed,


3.) 19 Jan 2016 12:50:35
We shuould have gone for him instead of Benteke. But not sure if MU would have sold him to us.

Him or Jese (RM) would have been ideal for us.

Not sure again if RM would do business now.


 

 

04 Nov 2015 03:26:31
Hi Eds

The Independant reporting that Gerrard has had talks with Klopp and is ready to come home. Have you heard anything?

Cheers.

McRed

{Ed001's Note - he wants to come back during the MLS off season and play for us under Klopp, plus do some more work towards his coaching badges. I expect it to be just him training and working on his badges, especially considering how poorly he played this season. Everyone has said the exact same things to me about him, that he was off the pace, too slow etc. The MLS is barely above the pace of walking football and he couldn't keep up with it! I hope Klopp is strong enough to have seen that and tell Gerrard his time is over, because he has not been good enough for years and we don't need him hamstringing our press again.}


1.) 04 Nov 2015 04:18:05
I think it would be great. Yeah people will disagree but hey, its my opinion and I am entitled to it. I think SG, under a manager such as Klopp would be a match made in heaven. Can't see it happening but LFC/Anfield/Liverpool is where his heart is, and he can see the turn in our fortunes on the horizon. Under BR we could see there were issues. It's not all about the physical side, you need heart too.

{Ed001's Note - why would it be a match made in heaven? Even at his peak Gerrard was an issue in the dressing room, his attitude regarding wanting to play where he wanted to, rather than where the manager thought he should, was an issue. Now his legs have gone as well, he is the last thing we need. It would end any chance of playing the gegepress.}


2.) 04 Nov 2015 04:53:06
Cheers for reply Ed, and I think it would be a match made in Heaven as I can see SG really seeing that under Klopp things are going to be good. Klopp VS BR as a manager/coach is a no contest. Klopp is the man imo to take us to that next level, and I think there is a real buzz around us at the moment. SG probably wants to part of this. He didn't look happy on the field under BR. SG can still do a job for us Ed001, I really believe that. I would have him back in heartbeat. It's not about looking to the past, it's about me/us wanting LFC to be the best again. I think he can help us achieve that and he deserves it. If he did not come back then I would not be upset, I just love him lol.

{Ed001's Note - you haven't watched him play if you think that, you are remembering what he was, not what he is. His legs have gone. It would be the same problem Chelsea have faced this season, with lumbering over the hill players struggling to keep up. He deserves nothing, he got paid ridiculous amounts of money, that is more than enough to compensate him. He won the biggest prize in club football, then threw his toys out of his pram and tried to push through a move to Chelsea, there is no way he 'deserves' anything but thanks for what he did.}


3.) 04 Nov 2015 06:59:34
Our of order Ed. Gerrard single handedly won the European cup for us amongst other things, show some respect, the man is a legend.

{Ed001's Note - no he did not, he was part of a team that won things, grow up.}


4.) 04 Nov 2015 07:08:30
That's harsh.

{Ed001's Note - no it is not, it is far from it.}


5.) 04 Nov 2015 07:47:04
It's spectacularly disrespectful to the likes of Carragher, Hypia, Dudek, Hamman, Smicer, Alonso, Garcia etc to talk about how Gerrard single handedly won us the champions league. He neither single handed got us to the final, nor did he do it himself in the game. It was one of the greatest team efforts of the modern age and they all deserve the respect and admiration for it, not just Gerrard.

On him coming back - fine for training and I actually think some of the more experienced players like Milner could do with having a sit down with him. But not to play unless we have massive injuries including our younger players in the MLS off season period and are desperate for cover.

{Ed001's Note - well said.}


6.) 04 Nov 2015 07:53:29
I wouldn't even want Gerrard back training with us. We have the most exciting manager we have had in years, working with a young squad, it's a fresh start, let's not upset the apple cart. This'll probably get slated, but ed001 is right, Gerrard has had his time.


7.) 04 Nov 2015 07:54:19
Brilliant honesty from you Ed - good player that Gerrard was for us, if people could remove the SG tinted glasses, and actually look at how many average games he had, brilliant big game player, but lots of not so good games also, he got very wealthy playing for his home town club. As far as 2005 is concerned, it was a fabulous team effort once we recovered from Benitez's error of starting with Jewell.


8.) 04 Nov 2015 08:51:45
Wasn't it Dudek who made the wonder double save and stopped the penalties going on? Gerrard did well that night but the team was amazing (bar 1st half) carragher was a monster 2nd half onwards.


9.) 04 Nov 2015 08:56:40
Completely agree, anyone that watched him throughout his last season with us and in the MLS will know that he's no longer the Stevie G we all fondly remember. His swansong should have been the year of the 'slip' but it wasn't to be, after this teams found out how to neutralise him playing in that deep role (I recall a certain Stewart Downing absolutely swarming him when we played West Ham and it lost us the game! )

Like others have said, its massively disrespectful to the other players that were on thr field that night in Istanbul to say he did it alone, there were 11 men, a manager and some amazing support that all did the business that night.


10.) 04 Nov 2015 09:03:05
He didn't single handily win the European cup by himself. If you want to get down to I who crossed the ball for him to header in the first goal during the final? Without the cross then there is none of this bullcrap that he won it by himself.

Sexondly if macca reads this, he needs to pass it on. We need to be done with Stevie now simple. He csnt play and hasn't for years, we all got slated on here for moaning about hos legs and that, it even got to where the media and fellow managers where saying his legs haven't gone he is still fast blah blah and then Gerrard after scoring in the derby running to the crowd going "there you go". It was bad. Hos legs have gone, he never had agility to turn on a 50p piece so without his pace to make up for it he wasn't able to continue playing, let alone in midfield. In his pomp he couldn't be trusted to play in the middle because he would always go missing before spraying a 90 yard ball and making all forgotten.

If he comes back what happens if he doesn't like klopp or his methods, dors he disrupt the harmany in the group? Complain to the bosses? Or even right a book about it.

Its like having a 34 year old child who still wants to keep moving home, we can't keep babying him. If he wants to go be a coach then do it the hard or more normal way like anyone else, why should he get any better treatment with using the word legend or because he is Stevie g and he won is things. He got payed and payed hansolmly for all that he gave us.

Time to move on.

Love you Stevie.


11.) 04 Nov 2015 09:08:19
I agree, SG shouldn't come back right now he will still have too much influence on the team.
Let JK rebuild then in a few years when SG has retired from playing if he wants to return then we can offer him some kind of role .

{Ed002's Note - Quite frankly, if he returns to England and gets registered as a player I would expect at least one FA charge to follow given the discussions of several weeks ago and the stupidity of some of the content of his book.

The club will be aware of this.}


12.) 04 Nov 2015 09:10:24
Gerrard was great 5 years ago brutal but true time to move on. I would prefer if he wasn't around the club and was doing his badges elsewhere. P neville is somebody I like (painful) how he has been learning under different coaches and now in Spain I think something like that would benefit Gerrard coaching range.


13.) 04 Nov 2015 09:26:22
In relation to the champions league final the player who stands out in my mind is Carragher. From the second 45 onwards that was the greatest defensive display I have ever seen from a player.


14.) 04 Nov 2015 09:40:58
Lets be honest Gerrard is no where near good enough to come back and play for us, he was magnificent in his day but as ed1 has said he is past it, he can't even do it in the MLS (thats no disrespect to the MLS but is no BPL), why would you want him back anyway after his outrageously disrespectful book? The past is best left as fond memories. As for Istanbul agree with a lot above Carra, Hamman, Smicer, Alonso, Dudek, the coaches, the fans etc. won us that game with a massive help from Stevie but is that not what payers are payed to do.

Stevie G is a Legend let's just keep it that way please.


15.) 04 Nov 2015 09:56:15
As ed002 highlighted, I doubt very much SG will come back to play. I think the conversations is all about him learning from Klop, no official role or anything like that just shadow sort of thing like what Brendan did under Jose when he first started.


16.) 04 Nov 2015 10:41:25
I would hate to see Gerrard come back so soon, he needs to spend a bit of time away from the club and come back when he's humble about his contribution over the years. Every time he's spoken to the press since he left I've lost a bit more respect for him.


17.) 04 Nov 2015 10:56:37
what are you lot on about? He wasn't good enough last year or the year before. brutal but honest truth. He was good in his early days but age catches up with everyone. in my heyday I could sing and shout for 2 hours plus. not nowadays. accept it and move on I have seen better players come and go. live with it. its sad but its the here and now.


18.) 04 Nov 2015 12:24:18
I think the Club should respectfully deny Gerrard a route straight back into the Liverpool setup at the moment.
He's only been gone 5 mins, Klopp has been here 5 mins, he's got a decent bunch of players to work with atm (no big egos)
Can't honestly see many if any benefits having Gerrard return. Imagine how Henderson, Ca.


19.) 04 Nov 2015 12:33:00
Can't believe how much garbage I read on here about one of the greatest players ever to wear the red shirt! Maybe his legs have gone - not surprising with how many times he had to drag us through matches! I really hope he does return to us, even if it is only to train and earn his badges. I think he'd learn massively from Klopp, just being around him for a few weeks. Not sure we need him playing, as I can already see Klopp's influence starting to imprint on our squad - perfect example is giving Lucas the confidence and belief in himself to come back to the level he is currently playing at. But please don't know Stevie, show some respect.

{Ed001's Note - perhaps he should have thought of that when he was putting out his latest moneymaking scheme. Gerrard showed the club no respect, acted with no class, with that book. It is difficult to respect someone who shows so little respect to others. What he earnt on the pitch, he did his best to ruin off the pitch with his own actions throughout his career.}


20.) 04 Nov 2015 13:01:34
Gerrard scored the first goal, but the cross was just perfect for him from riise. He spurred the team on, but getting one back early always get the adrenaline going. They all tried hard, alonso stepped up to take the crucial penalty. Dudes pulled off probably the best double save I've seen in my life. And Benitez changed it to 3 at the back with attacking wide players to really push hard.
Maybe we can say he won the fa cup for us the year ;)

{Ed001's Note - Hamann's arrival and Carragher's pushing up had as big a part to play as any, plus Carra's instruction to Dudek to copy Grobs, to be fair. It was a fantastic team performance to come back, it is time to stop fawning over Gerrard and remember that. The entire team came up with a miracle, not one man. Oh and I include the manager and coaching staff in there as part of the team.}


21.) 04 Nov 2015 13:14:48
In The Daily Telegraph it says that when Gerrard left for the MLS it was already agreed he would come back in the off season to train. However with Brendas dismissal it wasn't clear whether that offer was still on the table. Their words not mine, make of that what you will.


22.) 04 Nov 2015 13:26:31
As a 45 year old LFC fan who watched SG all through his career I can say with 100% conviction that SG can't play for LFC again. He was a wonderful, motivated, gifted heart of a great team and towards the end he was a great leader of a good team but he cannot play in the prem anymore. I watched for England a couple of years ago and he had no pace then. He can however be a great addition to the coaching staff and I am sure he can work under Klopp in some capacity. Klopp and the youngsters are our playing future, SG can be the backroom/coaching future. Leave the legends of the past where they are and concentrate on creating new legends.


23.) 04 Nov 2015 14:02:30
I do absolutely agree with you ED001 on the response to my post above, how much of it though was outside influence on Stevie? Him toying with the idea of joining Chelsea before our Istanbul win, the book just released etc. As with many players these days, they are very mis-informed/pushed in the wrong direction at times. I just hope that going forward we have players who would run through brick walls for the team, fans and manager, much like he did time and again. I 100% don't think he should return in a playing capacity - we have a new direction now and I believe it looks very promising.

{Ed001's Note - outside influence? He only has hangers on and suck ups around him. The problem with Gerrard has always been the lack of an outside influence to make him realise he is not some kind of god. He is so high on his own importance that he forgets about everything else, which was why a bit of flattery saw him desperate to run off to Chelsea. He wanted to put out the book, no one pushed him into it. Gerrard has always had everyone around him saying how great he is and no one to ever keep him in check, that is his problem. What he needed was someone keeping his feet on the ground, what he constantly got were people pandering to him, then he had so much power around the club no one could do anything else.}


24.) 04 Nov 2015 15:03:19
{Ed001's Note - no he did not, he was part of a team that won things, grow up. } so under this logic then your quotes about Suarez and Studge getting us to 2nd on their own don't hold much weight do they? Surely the same respect should be afforded to the team they played with in 2013/14 including the manager? Not sticking up for anyone, just saying.

{Ed001's Note - what quotes? Show me where I said they did that on their own.}


25.) 04 Nov 2015 17:37:04
He may have had no-one to hold him in check or to keep his feet on the ground but that doesn't stop him being passionate about the club he played for all that time. I simply don't understand the anti Gerrard comments. Yes his legs have gone but that doesn't make him bad or disruptive. The fact that he left to go to MLS was in all probability down to others (primarily Ayre and Rodgers) not saying that it would be good if he stayed as a squad player and had a small coaching role to start off with. The success that Liverpool enjoyed over the years was brought about by identifying emerging talent and getting hold of it before anyone else did, bringing change about continually but gradually and identifying, grooming leaders from within and developing a siege mentality. Apart from the obvious we have won very little by appointing managers who were clearly not up to the job (Dalglish, Hodgson and Rodgers more recently) . It pains me to include Dalglish in that group for his second spell as manager because he is a legend in my view but was a clearly out of his depth. Retain the good, promote from within once people have learned their craft (e. g. Paisley, Fagan, Evans, Dalglish) and have the courage to take a long term view and we might, just might, end up being successful again. Look AF and MU. They didn't get to where they were by chopping and changing like they've started doing now. As to SG's head being turned by offers from Chelsea - who wouldn't have been flattered - only idiots. The fact remains that for whatever reason he decided not to go. Books? They all write them, they are all controversial in some way or another so learn to live with it. Perhaps SG hasn't learned the complete Liverpool way and kept the dirty laundry in-house. However, I bet there's a lot more he could have dished if he had a mind to.

{Ed001's Note - he was disruptive and a problem long before his legs went. The moment he refused to play on the right under Rafa, and Rafa was forced to accept it by the club, was the moment he became a major problem. As for the books, most of the dirt that could be dished would be on him, so I very much doubt that will happen from him.}


26.) 04 Nov 2015 17:55:23
In my opinion, hamman changed the game. he was instrumental in breaking up the attacks and giving us the foundation to bomb forward. stevie g will always be a liverpool legend but he's finished as a player. might as well ask Robbie and rushy to play too!


27.) 04 Nov 2015 22:44:56
Well said Ed001

Hopefully that dirt will come to light one day!


28.) 04 Nov 2015 23:30:38
I think Stevie should do what Becks did and spend a couple of months on loan in Italy or France. Would be a great short term experience and would also help him long term with coaching.


29.) 04 Nov 2015 20:43:23
Then the club should have told SG to shut up or ship out. That's not Gerrard's fault. No-one wants to play out of position and we've all seen endless cases of foolish managers trying to fit square pegs into round holes. Sometimes as an emergency and sometimes because "they have seen potential. " If expressing an opinion and sticking to it is being disruptive then perhaps we need more of it. Opinionated, disruptive, troublesome, single minded, most of his time at one club. Remind you of anyone else?

{Ed001's Note - play out of position? Gerrard didn't have a position at that point, but he had just had a fantastic season playing on the right, the best of his career, yet he threw his toys out of the pram and demanded to play in the middle. He never again played to that level. It was not square pegs in round holes, he was better suited to that role than any other. Instead we then were left to completely rejig the side to shoehorn him in centrally and put a square peg on the right, in Kuyt, to make up for his sudden lack workrate defensively. You are right, the club should have told him to shut up or ship out, but that doesn't make him the good guy in this. He has never been the blue eyed boy his image has made him out to be.}


30.) 05 Nov 2015 00:19:42
Love this debate, and Ed001 u r right, his MLS career hasn't been great thus far, and right again when u say i must not have watched a lot, as i didn't see many games at all. Still would have him though lol, will always love SG. What he does off the field doesn't concern me to be honest, as long as its within the law n he doesn't act in a way that reflects badly on Liverpool then I don't mind. You clearly know something we dont, n I haven't read the book yet.

{Ed001's Note - if you knew the half of what he does, you would be concerned. The reputation of the club was dragged through the mud a couple of summers ago by the actions of him and his missus while they were holidaying in Dubai. And that was petty compared to some of the stuff. He was a great player, but that is all he was. He was very careful to maintain an outward image that always put him in a good light (not the only footballer to do so either, the little rat Michael Owen comes to mind). He was clever enough to make sure he always had hangers on around to make sure he didn't look like it was down to him when he didn't want to sign autographs. His hangers on would always be under instruction to drag him away, so he could pretend he wanted to sign more, when it was him that instructed them to move him away.}


31.) 05 Nov 2015 04:36:32
Wow, Ed's revelations are jaw dropping. SG is some piece of work if all things are considered.

{Ed001's Note - he was just spoilt and fawned over all his life. Let's be fair though, it could have been far worse, he is no Ravel Morrison, for instance.}


32.) 05 Nov 2015 07:24:56
Ed1, fair enough, I wouldn't want Gerrard back either after last season, but even though Istanbul was very much a team win, Gerrard as good as single-handedly won us the FA Cup in 2006, no?

{Ed001's Note - again no, he didn't do any such thing. Being the best player on the pitch and winning something single handedly are two different things.}


33.) 05 Nov 2015 09:38:15
Cheers Ed001 for the informative insight. What about other team-mates of his? Did anyone ever speak out against him?

{Ed001's Note - those that did were quickly moved out of the club.}


34.) 05 Nov 2015 12:54:42
Diego Maradonna vs England in 1990. Now that's an example of a player winning a game single handedly.

Gerrard was just the poster boy of a great team. From 2010 onwards when he didn't have the great team around him he got found out. His performances seemingly spiked in 2013-14 because Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge won him a lot of penalties to convert, and Suarez, Sturridge and Skrtel put a lot of his corners in the net. He was still average in open play though.


35.) 06 Nov 2015 00:52:06
What did he do in Dubai Ed that damaged the clubs reputation? (if you don't mind/ are allowed to say)

{Ed001's Note - even if I could say, I don't think this site is the right place for this kind of gossip. It is more the kind of stuff Perez Hilton would lap up.}


 

 

 

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05 Jun 2017 20:26:23
Evening Eds and Macca,

Any news on the Ox coming? DMirror reports he is going to sign a new deal with the gunners, or is that Arsenal putting it out there to force his hand?

McRed

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained - it makes zero sense to me.}


 

 

31 Jan 2016 15:43:01
Hi Ed's

Do you see big outgoings with players in the summer to generate funds? Surely Klopp will look to bring some players that he can trust from the Bundesliga?

McRed

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about it being Bundesliga recruitment but I do expect a lot of outs.}


1.) 31 Jan 2016 16:31:28
I can't wait for the summer! It's going to be so different to the ones we've experienced lately and at the end of it we'll begin to see Klopp's team taking shape.


2.) 31 Jan 2016 16:53:32
Ed001 would you like to say who you think will be moved on or s it impossible to say.

{Ed001's Note - it is impossible to say as it will mostly depend on who we can sell.}


3.) 31 Jan 2016 17:33:15
Ok fair enough, I think we will struggle to sell a lot of them, a lot of em aren't setting the premiership alight, if we do get buyers can't see us getting much back on the money spent on them, Lalana or even lovren if klopp decides to sell, lucky to get 50% of the cost back.


4.) 31 Jan 2016 17:36:18
Benteke
Sturridge
Courtinho (if no champions league)
Skrtel
Sakho
Moreno
Allen
Balotelli
Markovic
Enrique
Toure
Sinclair
Bogdan.


5.) 31 Jan 2016 17:51:39
I can see it being really hard work, I'm not sure there is a great deal of value in our fringe players and god knows what we will do with balotelli. It will be disappointing watching players we paid good money for leaving for essentially nothing (balloteli, Alberto, llori I'm sure there are more) . I assume markovic will make his loan permanant and I doubt wether tex will sign a new deal at 23 and still not a regular.


 

 

26 Jan 2016 09:49:56
Hi Ed's

Could Remy be a loan option for Liverpool?
I remember Rodgers pulled the plug on the deal for him 2 years ago due to medical issues. Can the player and club relationship be revived or has that bridge been well and truely burned?
Personally I think a loan until the end of the season would be good business!

Cheers.

McRed

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are overrun with attacking players and are already trying to add one more. They certainly don't need the vastly bloated squad to be padded out further by Loic Remy who would not even get a game.}


1.) 26 Jan 2016 10:10:19
Thanks for your opinion. I agree we are over run with attacking options and the squad is swelling, however we lack a fox in the box and making runs inbetween defenders. The Teixeira deal sounds very expensive and not necessary when we have Firmino, Lallana, and Coutinho, unless the latter is leaving in the summer! When Sturridge, Origi and Ings are back, they will provide this, we just have to be patient for their returns I guess!

{Ed001's Note - Remy is no 'fox in the box'.}


 

 

20 Jan 2016 16:26:29
According to the Liverpool Echo, we are interested in Alvaro Morata. Have you heard anything Ed's? Surely he's way out of our budget and would opt for a champions league club?

McRed

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not made any offer for Morata at this time.}


1.) 20 Jan 2016 17:08:39
Do we hold an interest Ed, or is it just paper talk (I. E. Rubbish)

{Ed002's Note - Another English side spoke to Juve and were told he would not be sold now - they are keen to avoid him returning to Real Madrid if they can. Liverpool has not made any approach at this time.}


2.) 20 Jan 2016 17:22:21
But is there any interest from the club in him or is it just more newspapers making up stories Ed002?


3.) 20 Jan 2016 18:36:03
Put it to bed eds. No interest from us is there.


 

 

18 Jan 2016 13:43:45
Has Andros Townsend been looked at by LFC, or is it likely he is off to Newcastle now? He could provide some much needed pace that is needed in the team right now, how do you rate him Ed's?
Cheers.

McRed

{Ed002's Note - Try the Spurs page - random names.}


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2017 07:18:35
For me Milner deserves the left back role, he earned it last season, sound defensively and going forward. Plus he can take free kicks and pens. His experience will be vital and has to stay in the team. I can't see him playing anywhere else. Save the cash and get the Ox.

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02 Jun 2017 20:32:48
Very greedy indeed. Nobody should not sign him out of principle and set an example! You could get Sanchez for £70m 😉.

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16 Feb 2016 20:43:25
Lovren and Matip with Gomez and Illori back ups with another addition in the summer. Skrtel, Sakho, Toure to go!

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27 Jan 2016 19:41:36
It's a shame we couldn't offer cash plus player exchange deal. Surely Balotelli would suit the Ukraine with his fireworks!

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25 Jan 2016 14:05:28
Newcastle, Sunderland, Chelsea would all be suitable clubs for him!

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03 Feb 2016 08:16:19
Yes it's not the first time Migs has been caught off his line this season, I remember Oscar nearly catching him out at Chelsea. But I really thought Lovren had the chance to win that ball Ed, before Vardy could get a strike off. He could have shown a bit more desire and intent to win the ball and put it out of of play. Anyways let's hope Courtinho, Strurridge and Origi come back strong and stay fit for the rest of the season.

McRed

{Ed001's Note - Lovren was chasing the quickest player in the Prem, to be fair.}


 

 

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03 Feb 2016 07:26:38
It was a great strike by Vardy, however our defending for both goals were complete rubbish. The first one Lovren allowed too much room for Vardy to strike in the first instance. There was an opportunity for Lovren to challenge for the ball but decided to back off. Vardys interview after the game explained how he had seen Mignolet off his line all game! Not sure you can blame Mig for that with the defenders he has in front of him. As for the second, Sakho yet again allowed the ball to bounce and then Moreno (who had yet another dreadful game) stuck out a pathetic leg to block the shot which then defelected into Vardys path. Hopefully it won't be long until Flanagan is in the starting in that back four to tighten up things, and then the arrival of Coutinho, Sturridge and Origi should bring us the goals. Concentrate on the cups now and play, Brannagan, Stewart, Teixeira and Smith more often.

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{Ed001's Note - you can blame Migs on that one, as soon as he realised he was not getting it, he should have been getting back on his line, not stood watching.}


 

 

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31 Jan 2016 17:36:18
Benteke
Sturridge
Courtinho (if no champions league)
Skrtel
Sakho
Moreno
Allen
Balotelli
Markovic
Enrique
Toure
Sinclair
Bogdan.

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26 Jan 2016 10:10:19
Thanks for your opinion. I agree we are over run with attacking options and the squad is swelling, however we lack a fox in the box and making runs inbetween defenders. The Teixeira deal sounds very expensive and not necessary when we have Firmino, Lallana, and Coutinho, unless the latter is leaving in the summer! When Sturridge, Origi and Ings are back, they will provide this, we just have to be patient for their returns I guess!

McRed

{Ed001's Note - Remy is no 'fox in the box'.}


 

 

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16 Jul 2015 14:56:30
Thanks for the reply ed002, I think it would be important for Benteke to join the squad to integrate with players but understand how the jet lag may hinder the player. I'm guessing he may join them in Finland and away to Swindon.
Btw, our pre season games aren't exactly against quality teams. I would have thought we would have had a more competitive final pre season game!! What's your opinion on the pre season opposition?

McRed

{Ed002's Note - Typically the pre-season games are a mix of commitments that are paid for by sponsors etc. (for which many clubs including LFC get well paid), pre-season tournaments which are pretty meaningless and games which clubs throw second string players at. So some practice, a chance to try out new tactics and avoidance of injury.}