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14 Jun 2018 11:23:10
Just been sent our fixtures for next season, West ham at home opening day, followed by a pretty fair few weeks. Everton at home 1st of December is the first Derby 15th Dec Man u at home. See tomorrow if what I've been sent is true.

Waro

1.) 14 Jun 2018 11:34:13
What have you been sent Waro?


2.) 14 Jun 2018 11:38:12
Tomorrow? It’s on the LFC website Waro. and yes that’s correct. Think it’s a good fixture list IMO.


3.) 14 Jun 2018 11:40:08
The fixtures were released around an hour or so ago Waro.


4.) 14 Jun 2018 12:26:34
Quick, Waro, get to the Delorean! ;-)


5.) 14 Jun 2018 12:52:40
Waro is speaking of his post yesterday regarding Fekir and Klopps reaction to the transfer not going ahead.


6.) 14 Jun 2018 13:14:09
I thought Waro was referring to his post next year about the 2019-20 fixtures?!

I'm confused!


7.) 14 Jun 2018 13:19:11
The fixtures went up on the BBC site 3 hours ago for all teams. but I like the way how Tottenham and Chelsea away in September followed by Man City at home is part of a 'fair few weeks'. we haven't even got the UCL fixtures yet, which'll add to the melee. I personally think we've got a good November and December. Let's hope all the lads come back fit and raring to go.


8.) 14 Jun 2018 23:12:14
Waro you’ve outdone yourself lad, didn’t think you’d top those ITK starting lineups you pretended you didn’t steal off Twitter.


9.) 15 Jun 2018 14:41:39
We have 6 away games before ou UCL games including Arsenal, Spurs and chelsea. Suboptimal at best but it is what it is.


 

 

13 Jun 2018 10:43:29
Passing on what I've heard; The fekir deal is ongoing, Liverpool wanted the payments restructuring and a significant reduction in the fee after the medical, Lyon then walked away, klopp is apparently furious and I mean furious and wants explanations, he's supposedly said "amateurish negotiating" I'm paraphrasing but it was essentially that.

Waro

1.) 13 Jun 2018 11:05:39
Interesting stuff Waro. The saga continues.


2.) 13 Jun 2018 11:06:55
Sounds about right for us involved in any transfer. 😂
Fingers crossed it still happens but what will be will be.


3.) 13 Jun 2018 11:11:24
Thanks Waro.


4.) 13 Jun 2018 11:11:28
Please, get Fekir already, take the risk, make me happy, move on?


5.) 13 Jun 2018 11:12:50
Not this again!
Not Fekir again!


6.) 13 Jun 2018 11:35:17
Were is this from Waro?


7.) 13 Jun 2018 12:26:03
Cheers Waro, ignore the ones that moan!


8.) 13 Jun 2018 12:26:35
I wonder in which part his furious. Edwards, Lyon or both. I totally get it tho. Going on vacation with the deal 90% wrapped up. Photos, interviews, shirtnumber, and then they can't agree on a compromised figure. Get it done Kloppo. It's a calculated risk. Fekir has been playing more minutes than many healthy players the last couple of seasons.


9.) 13 Jun 2018 12:42:08
I find it pretty hilarious that jurgen " the rules don't apply to me and I will tap up player's illegally as many times as I want to " klopp would dare criticise anyone else about amatuerish negotiating and transfer dealings. Ridiculous from him if accurate.


10.) 13 Jun 2018 13:09:20
I believe it. I still don't think we've heard the end of this saga.


11.) 13 Jun 2018 13:42:55
Thank's for that Waro.


12.) 13 Jun 2018 14:33:09
Reading some people's responses you'd have to wonder if they actually support LFC at all.

I'm not massively hopeful but I'd love us to sign Fekir!


13.) 13 Jun 2018 15:46:47
"How the fekir am I supposed to replace Couts with your fekiring amateurish negotiating 😠"


14.) 13 Jun 2018 16:17:06
As much as I’d love us to sign Fekir I’m not upset at the club in how they have conducted themselves if this is true.
If the issue WAS the medical surely it’s right that if there’s a doubt over long term fitness that this is addressed, of course Lyon want as much as possible but surely LFC were right to discuss the fee, Lyon didn’t have to budge though.
If I went to buy a car/ house and found something that could cause a fault I’d want to discuss lowering price to cover myself.


15.) 13 Jun 2018 16:39:06
This is like buying a second hand car which had previous records of an accident. So the buyer wants to reduce the price of the car and the seller refused to do so. As a result the buyer walked out while the seller screamed profanity at him.

But as soon as the buyer 'really' walked out of the door, the seller calls him back. to be continued.


16.) 13 Jun 2018 16:58:12
Thanks for the info Waro.

Personally I don't believe the transfer will happen. I said it weeks ago and I'll say it today, it reminds me far too much of the Lemar situation last year, everybody saying how it was a done deal and all that BS and nothing ever came of it. I see this situation going down exactly the same way. People pay too much attention to places like 'the firm' (FKFB) if you look thoroughly at their page you'll see how useless they are and how wrong they get it lol and that page is just one of many claiming to be 'in the know'. I'll believe it if the Eds say a deal is imminent or the club posts pics of him in Liverpool shirt but I'd bet a large sum of money we won't see that.


17.) 13 Jun 2018 17:05:05
Cheers Waro,

The owners won’t pay 😉.


18.) 13 Jun 2018 17:02:07
Haha well in waro.


19.) 13 Jun 2018 18:22:04
if the car that I was looking at, was found to be in a crash of any kind, I would just walk away, not worth buying it, even at a lower price, and if a five minute google would tell me that damage was likely possible, now, and more in the future, then I would not invest any time in looking,
take note, any transfer people .


20.) 13 Jun 2018 19:17:37
Thanks for sharing Waro.


21.) 13 Jun 2018 19:46:28
Thanks Waro, your pretty spot on when it comes to your info.


22.) 13 Jun 2018 20:23:21
There goes the rest of my hair!


23.) 14 Jun 2018 10:14:16
Don’t know why we are trying for fekir. We have lazar markovich in our squad who is in the top 10 players on the planet at the minute. He just needs game time. Also Adam bogdan should be no1. Save us money too.


24.) 14 Jun 2018 11:21:26
Mo correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the Lemar deal right at the end of the transfer window with little or no time left for negotiation?
There’s still 2 months left of this window and if you believe the reports Fekir is desperate to come and Klopp is desperate to sign him. I should think after Suarez and Coutinho in recent season we should all know how that scenario usually ends.


 

 

24 Mar 2018 20:49:34
Just thought I'd pass on this, I said in the summer we were interested in Max Meyer, obviously it didn't happen, but the same lad has text me today saying they're definitely making a move for him this summer a far more aggressive approach than last time. Make of it what you will but that's what I've been told.

Waro

1.) 24 Mar 2018 21:39:05
Thanks Waro, I’d be happy with his arrival especially for free.


2.) 24 Mar 2018 23:20:04
Fair play Waro. Either way it makes sense with the profile of player we're after in midfield.
Just whilst I have the chance, although we have different views on things, on reflection I didn't mean to make any personal insults the other day. So my apologies if the end of my replies came to that, I get so passionate sometimes it's easy to lose myself in the moment. YNWA.


3.) 24 Mar 2018 23:44:10
Cheers for the info mate.


4.) 25 Mar 2018 03:37:18
Glad to see you seem the Ed’s update waro 🎣.


5.) 25 Mar 2018 03:28:11
Could be an alternative for Jorginho. But that means we have to sign a CDM regardless. Without Can, our midfield will lack strength and aggression.


6.) 25 Mar 2018 08:24:57
I can see Meyer, Ceballos and Lemar arrive in the summer.


7.) 25 Mar 2018 10:24:09
Jonesred no way we sign all 3 mate. Ed02 said forget Lemar for now.


8.) 25 Mar 2018 11:19:51
If Jorginho goes elsewhere, Klopp will probably throw the money at Meyer and his agent. Good chance we may see a proper 6 also signed to pair with Keita and Meyer/ Jorginho.
Lemar too expensive and ceballos will 100 % not be coming to BPL.


9.) 25 Mar 2018 12:32:11
Would be more than happy with Keita and Meyer coming in the summer. Ceballos too. I don't expect that Jorginho nor Lemar to join us.


 

 

09 Jun 2017 13:47:06
The owners are in for a tough time in the next few months, trust me!

Waro

1.) 09 Jun 2017 13:56:55
Why? Happy to trust you if you shed some light as to how you know this.


2.) 09 Jun 2017 14:17:03
Why shld we trust you? Or are you personally going to give them a hard time?


3.) 09 Jun 2017 14:21:12
And so they should seein they are ultimately responsible if staff are draggin the clubs name through the mud.


4.) 09 Jun 2017 14:22:13
The thing is they would have to pick between how serious they are in running the football club in buying the best players for serious money or sticking to their pathetic money ball ideology with the risk of we lacking behind in winning trophies for the club.


5.) 09 Jun 2017 14:29:08
Spirit of Shankly are planning again TIA19.


6.) 09 Jun 2017 14:53:36
Oh my god. Lallana the reason no ed commented is because they have probably shot themselves.

Moneyball ideology? Jesus christ. We are one of the biggest spenders is world football. We didn't pull out of vvd for money reasons, but becsuse we approached the deal ass backwards. Same as salah, that's pending an investigation.

There was no worries from the owbers when spending 100 mil for the king, 200 mil for brendan or 80 mil for klopp.

Firmino, lallana, lovren, mane, wij where bought for about 140 mil.

Get a grip and stop watching stupid films and then spending your time basig your ideaology on them.

The money ball system was never about savung money because there cheap bastards but with abit more care and detail you can build a better team thay just spending millions.

Even chelsea are at that juncture.

Wheras city have yet to learn.

Tottenham have learned it.

United havent.

Leicster learned it.

We havent.

You can always spend money but for example its not always the big shiny names but the ones that will fit your team better.

{Ed001's Note - Moneyball is a lie anyway, it never existed and if people took the time to read up they would know it is nonsense.}


7.) 09 Jun 2017 15:45:19
What's the plan waro? You and the other goons planning a protest? Meet in the pub and brain storm how you can infiltrate the club and run it yourself?! God. it's tiresome. Zzzz.


8.) 09 Jun 2017 19:15:58
It will harm the club.


9.) 09 Jun 2017 20:13:08
You know effective scouting can find players that are much cheaper and not found yet, I think we got some Brazilian lad like that. what's his name again?
Or we can go the Labour route and spend spend spend and let the club go bankrupt! Sorry for that Labour voters.
FSG have spent big, they have invested - the sums for players are huge now and getting bigger.


10.) 09 Jun 2017 20:39:12
Waro you can't just up and spend 800m on players, you have to balance the books, unless you want us to go into administration. You and the other members of the SOS have to realise that FSG are doing a good job, they are putting in their own money and you should know that given your access to Ed002's wealth of knowledge. Please get out of La la land and realise that if you charge into FSG's office with swords and take over the club, the glory days won't suddenly return, football has changed and we are on the backfoot commercially. We have a talented squad and success should return under the helm of Judgen Klopp, you SOS lot will do nothing but make that process more difficult. I don't suppose any of you have 100m hidden in the back of your couch? If not, stop causing unnecessary conflict and support your club.


11.) 09 Jun 2017 23:50:53
I have a great deal of time for Waro but believe he will only be happy when the club is owned by fans living in liverpool and nobody outside of that are allowed to have tickets ( he seems to forget that most of them will tout the tickets out, which is evident on match days) it's about time all the groups opposed to FSG just stopped moaning and actually supported the club, their agenda is miss guided in my opinion.


12.) 10 Jun 2017 15:30:31
Excellent post SuperMane. That's an eye opener for all who are miles away from reality. The club should not and would not be held ransom. Salah not in million years is worth what Roma is asking for ( reported €40 mill ) would Chelsea even touch him for that price?
Falling for Waro would make you completely hatter towards FSG.


 

 

16 May 2017 20:52:11
I've been told today by someone who normally gives me decent information that Max Meyer is to be seriously persued this summer champions league or not.

Waro

1.) 16 May 2017 22:04:08
Thanks for the info waro.

I'm not sure he's good enough though, fairly poor return on goals and assists. Hasn't really kicked on this year as many would have hoped.


2.) 16 May 2017 22:58:24
Thanks for sharing Waro. Meyer is a decent player, but has not kicked on like Brandt or Sane has, but he is versatile, and can play wide or in central midfield in a 3 as an attacking player.


3.) 16 May 2017 23:01:58
Gareth Bale is coming too.

Thanks for the info Waro 👍.


4.) 17 May 2017 11:32:26
Thought I'd pass it on as I don't normally get transfer target info from him, just team news and injuries, I'm not sure about it to be honest as were overloaded with midfielders I thought it'd be a defender he'd be telling me about, but time will tell.


5.) 17 May 2017 13:34:55
Hard to judge him as he is used as a squad player. 2 goals and 5 assists in 1600 odd minutes according to stat sites. Hardly poor for a 21 year old attacking midfielder.

It's his all around game and his potential that you pay for, and that is excellent. For me, it spells the end for someone. Look at all the young attacking midfield players we have; Ojo, Wilson, Brannagan, Ejaria, Woodburn, Grujic, Kent and even Arnold to some extent. Meyer though to be fair is probably better than all of them excluding Grujic, Arnold and Woodburn. So perhaps if we were to sell/ loan Brannagan, Ojo, Wilson, Ejaria and Kent it makes sense. We do need to improve our squad depth and Meyer is a player who doesn't mind being a squad player. He seems level headed enough to understand that is his current level, despite his enormous potential. Could be good business.


6.) 17 May 2017 13:47:34
Good points by MK, the kid burst out into the scene at a very early age, and has much room for development. However, I would be worried about his position, since he was seen as an alternative to Brandt, the much-coveted LW option for our squad. I admit to not watching much of Meyer, but I always had the impression his position was a bit unclear, but seen as more central. That would make him a good back-up for the periods when Couts is out injured or needs a rest, but would not offer the speed and directness that a genuine LW could bring?


7.) 17 May 2017 15:14:40
He's very versatile Drigan. I've seen him play Right midfield, attacking midfield, right wing, second striker and even centre mid. Weirdly enough though, I've never seen him play on the left.

As you say, I don't think his eventual position has been decided yet. His touch and movement is fantastic though. He can link play up no matter where he plays.


8.) 17 May 2017 18:34:57
Not sure he's an improvement on what we have though.

He wouldn't displace Couts, lallana, wiji or Emre.

I also don't think he's much better than Wilson or Grujic our current 2 young midfielders waiting for game time.


9.) 17 May 2017 18:34:02
I've messaged him today about any info on VVD, but had no reply as of yet, if he knows anything I'll post it.


10.) 17 May 2017 18:52:33
If hardly count playing right mid and right wing as versatile mk ;)


11.) 17 May 2017 19:24:30
Of course it is Fencey. Playing on the right of a midfield is much much defensively demanding than playing on the right of a forward line. A lot of forward players (Pedro for instance) have to be played as a dedicated wide forward because they can't or won't track back.

I get what you mean though. In an attacking sense, your role doesn't really change except that right wingers are expected to contribute more goals.

Really not sure people can put Wilson in the same bracket as Meyer by the way. I like Wilson but Meyer is a first team squad player who makes nearly 30 appearances a season for 3 years running. Wilson has had 20 minutes off the bench unless you include a few failed loan moves in sub-par leagues.

Meyer is potentially world class and could be an excellent long term replacement for Coutinho or Lallana; as Coutinho may well leave to go to Barcelona eventually, and Lallana is getting on for 30 years old and also isn't really that great anyway.

It is about long term investment sometimes. Chelsea didn't sign Zouma to instantly play every game. He is a long term project. A player with immense potential who they have brought in to be moulded into exactly what they need when the likes of Terry and Cahill are gone.


12.) 18 May 2017 18:39:00
Brandt is way ahead of him and has been since the Olympics last summer were both along with Sule were very good.


13.) 19 May 2017 14:17:52
Got a text late last night about VVD, don't shoot the messenger, but apparently the club are happy to say nothing about the link to him but have zero interest in the player, there looking at it helping them muddy the waters about other transfer targets, I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist.


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2021 16:59:14
We have an aging squad with not much depth, now is the time to move out some older/ poorer players and bring in fresh quality over the next 3/ 4 Windows, the comparisons with fergies last few years is staring us in the face, and you lot will be the first on here crying that the squad needs major surgery and klopp is no longer here, the next man in will be left (just like at united) with a major job on his hands, hope its not Steven because he will damage his reputation for the love of the club, if you lot can't see that then you know zero about football.

Waro

1.) 03 Aug 2021 17:12:32
jesus, back with a positive post. beautiful.


2.) 03 Aug 2021 17:17:39
I’ll bite Waro:

Alison - no need to replace for at least 5 years, probably a lot longer

Trent - a decade

VVD - we have Gomez and Konate as the future pairing

Robbo - I’d say a good 5 years at his current level

Fabinho - 27 and of no concern for a good while

Hendo - yes, we need to start thinking about a successor and I beleive that’s why we’re looking at the likes of bissouma

Thiago - another one who isn’t a spring chicken, much will depend on Curtis Jones I suspect but will likely need another cm to come in at some point in the next 2-3 years

Mane - we have Jota who will hopefully be at his peak around the time Mane begins to fade in the next 2-3 years

Salah - probably our biggest concern of how to replace. Perhaps young Elliott is that man? Perhaps an expensive purchase will be needed.

Firmino - yep, we need a replacement for him.


I personally don’t doubt all of these areas will be addressed in the next 2-3 years in a phased approach. The difficulty with replacing mane and Salah is that equivalents are not cheap, so realistically you have to sell to replace. I imagine we’ll sell 2 of the front 3 next summer and bring in replacements. Then phase the 3rd out the following year.


3.) 03 Aug 2021 17:29:52
You're right but pendemic has had a major effect on our plans, think from next season will start having some changes in the squad going forward.

Anyways it's good to see u and Cris Tamworth back and doing well :-) .

Only Blair, Real AG, Bob the Red etc haven't been here for some time now especially Blair I hope they're safe and doing well in this pendemic.


 

 

19 Apr 2021 18:21:11
I've always looked at F$G supporters much like brexiteers (so entrenched in there support/ views all they can do is double down on there opinions even though the fog is now lifting and they have clarity, they're still not ready to admit they've been mugged off by billionaires) have the events of the last 24 hours finally helped them see the light? Sadly I doubt it.

Waro

1.) 19 Apr 2021 18:34:33
I'm done with Liverpool, just the LOI for me now.


2.) 19 Apr 2021 18:37:38
Every club looks after themselves Waro, time to get over it.


3.) 19 Apr 2021 19:07:44
And from under the rock comes Waro 🤣🤣🤣.


4.) 19 Apr 2021 19:26:17
Ha someone always manages to make it about Brexit.


5.) 19 Apr 2021 20:53:19
Why have a dig at Waro, looks like he has been proved right.


6.) 19 Apr 2021 23:20:22
Waro’s original points about FSG never indicated something like this would ever happen. You can’t say ‘I told you so’ unless you foresaw something akin to what has just happened, which waro never did. Waro’s problems with fsg as far as I recall, was always about the lack of investment from the owners. Working within our means doesn’t register with some supporters and waro seems to be one of them, because even though we would sell our best players, FSG certainly reinvested a lot of it. We shouldn't act like FSG are like arsenals ownership who were what waro thought FSG were.

On the flip side, have FSG reared their ugly head? Yes, on multiple occasions now especially before and during C.V.. Their Americanised style of running a sports franchise abroad has definitely come to fruition, and a lot like anything the Americans touch that had success abroad, it turns to poo once they try to make it their own. FSG seem to be In the process of doing that here, I think they think they’ve given what the fans want, and established themselves as good owners with the best interest of the club, and they were sadly mistaken. You can’t make the European football leagues the nba, or nfl and expect people to be alright with that. There’s a reason why football is light years ahead of those sports in terms of popularity and quality globally.

I’d like to avoid making this topic political, but the US seems to be a falling empire and they should be content with keeping themselves in the American bubble, away from other international affairs, especially where sports is concerned. They’ve been so good at constantly saying ‘In all of sports’ and only talking about nhl, nba, nfl and mlb on their talk shows, which is a sign of how deluded they are as a nation. No offence to any Americans on this page, but it’s the truth.


7.) 20 Apr 2021 01:20:28
There's plenty of awful owners from around the world, greed knows no boundaries, it just happens to be the American owned English clubs this time around . I've known lovely high flying Americans .

{Ed002's Note - Like me.}


 

 

08 Mar 2021 13:47:34
You will no longer tolerate the sell to buy policy they've pursued from day one.

Get behind Jurgen and the lads who have given us so many joyous moments and don't buy into the media driven narrative to remove Jürgen from his job, we know how great he is and so do they, which is why they're pushing his removal, so get on twitter or Facebook or whatever you lads go on and spread the word of support for Jurgen.

Waro

1.) 08 Mar 2021 14:46:49
Jesus waro it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a post from you welcome back. Any true Liverpool fan can’t surely want rid of Klopp to think where he has got us in the last 5 years. Media haven’t a clue only thing they care about it is people reading they’re made up stories. In start of your post u said we won’t tolerate sell to buy. The club is broke we don’t want to be like Barcelona do we. When klopp wants a player the club do the upmost to get him through the door. The owners aren’t perfect but who is thanks to them we have came on leaps an bounds. I remember when they bought us u weren’t keen but surely they have changed your mind.


2.) 08 Mar 2021 15:04:44
Bloody hell it’s been a while since we’ve had a paranoid anti-fsg post from you 😄

I’m struggling to see why FSG would want to drive our Juergen in this manner? Can explain your reasoning?


3.) 08 Mar 2021 15:37:51
So if we don't want to tolerate a sell to buy policy then what are the alternatives? Its easy to come out with a comment like this but I don't know any other answer. The club can only use what they make. So what do you propose as a way forward? Is there another PL club that is run responsibly and within FFP that do it another way?

{Ed077's Note - LFC broke the club record for Keita, World record for a CB to sign VVD and a world record fee for Alisson. And then the wages paid to those big money signings and top players like Salah, Mane, etc..

Surely You can't say FSG haven't spent money. Also the new training complex wasn't a gift from the Beatles as far as I recall.


4.) 08 Mar 2021 15:51:43
Thank you Ed77. Blaming the owners is an lazy way of finding a scapegoat. The amount of money they have spent and over spent mind you when we tapped up players, yet people are still disregarding all of that. Are they perfect no, have they made mistake yes but have they splashed the cash yes.

{Ed077's Note - and factor in FFP as well. FSG aren't the richest owners going around but they have always spent when necessary.

I don't understand why people see fault in everything and everybody, from Klopp to FSG to Salah to the new training complex when they are just coming out of their most successful period as a club in a long long time.


5.) 08 Mar 2021 15:58:26
Ed077, lessons are never really learnt or just simply forgotten after some time. People forget how the club was run into the ground, for a couple of decades, while ManU rose to the ascendancy, and the American clowns who followed. Gratitude and appreciation are also words (and thoughts) that will soon be withdrawn from Webster's due to lack of use.

{Ed077's Note - people don't seem to remember the brief period that you had under a certain Roy Hodgson when the ownership and the managerial setup was so so abysmal and unsuited


6.) 08 Mar 2021 16:05:07
Great post Waro, good to see you back!


7.) 08 Mar 2021 16:11:02
Waro just as blinkers on when it comes to FSG, they are great owners, they have bought us success just like Jurgen as, I am grateful that they don't put our club in jeopardy, also Waro please explain why we have have to become keyboard warriors and put it on social media, not all of us are attention seekers.


8.) 08 Mar 2021 16:50:06
Does the wealth of an owner really come into it? FSG can't spend their own money even if they wanted to. Am I correct in saying this? From memory a new owner can pump a certain amount into a club at the start but not continuously without breaking FFP rules and let's be honest why would you?
As you can guess FFP isn't my strong point 😀,

Its great to hear from Waro and its even better that his crystal ball is working well considering he predicted this 18 months ago, right after our CL win and before our first PL win in 30 years. 😃.


9.) 08 Mar 2021 17:20:01
I will always be thankful for the owner we have. Yes they have made mistakes, haven't we all. But we can't blame them for not spending last summer when C. V. was hurting everyone's bottom lines.

They are every bit of the reason we won the trophies we have recently it wasn't all Klopp.


10.) 08 Mar 2021 18:36:13
Waro. zzzzzz comes back to post more drivel. Same old rubbish.


11.) 08 Mar 2021 18:51:07
I don’t buy into this “we’re skint” so we can’t buy anyone nonsense. They can borrow money if want a top player, debts are everywhere in football. I’m not saying it’s the right way to go, and I’m not suggesting we do it. But if the club really wanted a player, they could sign anyone.


12.) 08 Mar 2021 19:18:19
Yeah sorry, that’s a cop out mate, this isn’t about the owners. If C.V. didn’t happen we would have reinvested in the squad after a winning season but fsg were specifically hit hard and football is a business, we work within our means and that’s resulted in our recent success. We have sold out best players in the past decade or so to allow the spending of the likes ed77 is alluding to but fsg have sanctioned it, bad owners would simply take the cheap option. Sell your best player and get a btech version of the same player for a 1/ 4 of the price you sold him for. Instead we bought heavily after selling counting I coupled with fsg own money and the fruits of their labour are for all to see. At the start of this season, we were begging for a CB after lovren was allowed to be sold and mario and Gomez were knowingly injury prone players, instead recruitment and pontetially even management sort to prioritise other players because we couldn’t afford exactly who they wanted. At the end of the summer, everyone unanimously thought we did very good business other than bringing in a CB which we thought we might do in jan. We never brought in adequate cover for Cb but we never sold on any of our assets, fsg already stretched as far as they could with what we did in the summer, now because the players and management laid stinker after stinker against opposition we should be beating regardless of injuries, now we want to blame the owners? I’m sorry no, for me this has nothing to do with the owners, yes I would love an endless pot of money like city but that has never been the case during klopps time here and it’s not exactly what made him successful here. This patch is on the players and management, as well as some unfortunate circumstances. Having said that, I can only stretch myself to excuse the results for those unfortunate circumstance if we were solidly fighting for top 4 or in the top 4, this is way beyond that now and we are free falling, so those are excuses to me now for things that are much deeper.


13.) 08 Mar 2021 22:51:16
Anyone who agrees with that from Waro is just as confused as he is.
This current run has nothing to do with lack of investment. I can’t think of one team in the history of football who could have 6 (YES 6! VVD, Gomez, Matip, Kabak, Davies and Hendo) centre backs out injured and still have the quality in 7th and 8th choice to be consistent and win games. Added to that we’ve had 3 different goalkeepers this season due to our first and second choice keepers being injured, Trent, Mane and Salah have had C.V. and haven’t been the same since, Robbo’s new cover Tsimikas has been injured so he’s had no rest, our marquee signing turned up with C.V., then got injured in his first start and was out for 3 months, our new forward starts life banging in goals and then gets injured and is out for 3 months, the manager’s mum has been ill for 3 months before passing away and our goalkeeper’s dad drowns in a freak accident! Klopp spent the first 3 years of his tenure getting largely disillusioned fans to create an atmosphere which allowed the players to express themselves and gave them the support and adrenaline to play the non stop aggressive game that became quite frankly unplayable resulting in the best home unbeaten run in our history only to see C.V. come along and take that all away.
But hey the owners should’ve called Waro 18 months ago because he saw all of this coming. Perhaps we would have had 5 world class centre backs on the bench ready and we’d have been socially distancing the players since 2019?
I’m as upset as the next fan with our current form but it has absolutely nothing to do with the owners. This team is capable of winning lots of football matches but this season events have happened that nobody could possibly have seen coming. Not even Mystic Waro.


14.) 08 Mar 2021 23:32:23
anger displacement guys. people get angry and start directing that fury in all directions. that is what is happening with the over-analysis of everything Liverpool-related this year.


15.) 08 Mar 2021 19:40:28
Ed77, why bring up facts regarding the huge investments FSG have made both on and off the pitch? You know that never works with those who have had it out for them cos they either have not spent the amount of money Utd and City spend or cos they have not done what they wanted. It will never b enuff for these regardless of how much the owners plough back into the club.

As for Waro, ain’t heard from the guy in years and now he is back to spout his rubbish regarding FSG again. Didn’t hear a peep out of him when they let Klopp spend 500m or so on players and we were winning big trophies under him or was that amount not enuff? Maybe they should have spent a billion and maybe that would have pleaded you, Waro.

But Now that we are having mass issues, you are back to act like you care. Save your concern-trolling for those who are interested cos I most certainly am not. We know who you are.


16.) 09 Mar 2021 04:31:07
Good post Waro and welcome back. can't say i agree with attacking the owners for our recent freefall but fully on board with backing Jurgen Klopp to the hilt. Its refreshing to have other viewpoints on here so keep posting.


17.) 09 Mar 2021 06:58:13
“ But if the club really wanted a player, they could sign anyone. ”

No they can’t. Stop with this utter nonsense.


18.) 09 Mar 2021 08:52:51
IDreamOfGini, Waro is not hear to have "another view point". He is here to troll and gloat, end of. If he thought we were going to be in this position 2 years ago, why did he not come here and say so? Was it cos we were winning things at the time based on the huge investments these same useless owners made OR was it the fact that they had proven he and most of their doubters wrong? So then he waited two years knowing nothing lasts forever and as soon as we are struggling, here he is. That is not someone with another view point. That is someone who bided his time all the while rooting for us to fail (the most spineless thing a fan can ever do) to fit his agenda.


The guy ain't posted here in years and now that we are struggling, he is now here to gloat and say "I told you so" regarding the owners, something that is NOT anywhere near true based on the facts. Pls, know the difference.


19.) 09 Mar 2021 12:30:04
So we just accept the fact, we have a weak squad from lack investment, FFP is a joke, we got a training complex for the price of an average player, hardly over spend, a stand that makes money back in time, sponsor deals to die for, and the best team we have had for years, a few of us have said for years, we spend while on top to keep the players and staff hungry and on their toes, they haven't spent near enough, the net spend is a joke compared to others, teams who have half the capacity of stadium, a tenth of the sponsorship and certainly nowhere the tv money we recieve, wake up, they have done well out of the club and are holding us back, we now have to dream of spending big to attract Haaland, Bousamma, Sarr, Carlos, when it isn't going to happen without the team being broken up. 2 Players who would take us up a level and that's Haaland (who with his dad is a rumored LFC fan) add into the connections Klopp has back in Germany, could be a realistic target and Aouar, an absolute class player. If FSG back Klopp with quality and quantity in the summer, I have no problem holding my hands up, but its yet to happen.


20.) 09 Mar 2021 13:48:22
Olired, you seem to have an opinion on almost every post on here yet you dismiss Waro for having an alternative viewpoint? He commented about the owners’ lack of investment (not something i agree with) but good to know how other Liverpool fans are feeling right now. I welcome opinion from Waro, Harry, Negative Walter and anyone else who has a legitimate feeling on our great football club - no need to cancel them because you don't like what you hear. The more variety in posts the better: it encourages debate. Peace out, sister.


 

 

08 Mar 2021 13:46:38
Hello everyone, just a passing visit, I take zero pleasure in this post, I feel physically sick with our current position but saw it coming 18 months ago, I was lambasted by a certain group on here who refused to open there eyes and minds to views they perceive as negative but are/ were in fact aimed at the team the club as a whole adopting a continuous improvement approach.

You all know my views on these owners so I won't go over old ground but what I will say is this, when the fans accept second best they accept failure, the ship is firmly on course to succeeding in this because of a total lack of investment from a position of strength in the playing squad.

Now obviously nobody could foresee the horrendous injuries we have suffered but it's always a possibility however remote and our current situation is all on the owners! The plethora of poor decisions they've made since they purchased the club has only been punctuated with the recruitment of Jürgen, this man is a modern day great and has given us so much so now it's our turn to repay the man with unwavering support and it's also your responsibility to let these owners that you will no longer tolerate.

Waro

1.) 08 Mar 2021 14:53:14
This is a tough one for me. The owners have actually splashed out on inflated prices due to us tapping up players. However, given the most successful period for a while at the club you would have thought we would have a lot of money to invest but paying inflated prices and lack of money go hand in hand whether we like it or not. Also C.V. came at the worst time which you can’t blame the owners for and the purse strings had to be tightened as a result. One thing I don’t like about the owners though that Ed2 has mentioned and that’s our risky business model of spending future projected income. I feel it is easy to simply lay it all at the door of the owners as it’s not exactly like they haven’t back out manager. I do agree with you that Klopp is a modern day great who has done a lot for the club. I just hope they back him in the summer because despite this season which he shoulders some responsibility for, he deserves their backing.


2.) 08 Mar 2021 15:06:28
So who do you think is going to buy us and throw money at us then?


3.) 08 Mar 2021 15:07:21
It must have been incredibly frustrating that you couldn’t peddle your anti fsg rubbish whilst we were winning the champions league and our first league title in 30 years (I know, I know, we’ve won these things in spite of fsg 😏)


4.) 08 Mar 2021 15:35:30
Waro, you saw our present situation coming 18 months ago? I believe you, mate.


5.) 08 Mar 2021 15:46:41
I'm with you Waro, they have done a good job, but they are limited and should move on, while we have the personnel we do, they don't have the money, the CL loss should of been the catalyst, we bought well after that, but that seemed to be it, because we won the CL after that it has felt like, well we won with this squad, it can go again, we don't need to put in more investment, wrong, that was the exact time big investment should of come, CV is a timely excuse to say, no funds here, a training ground and stand ( that will put the investment back to them, so a no brainer, no risk investment) seems to have blinded fans to the lack of quality in the squad, they need gone asap before this group are past their best for good and we lose the best manager we could of wished for, like you Waro i get jumped on for having ambition for the club to kick on and not settle for what's happened in the past.


6.) 08 Mar 2021 17:01:12
Didn’t we spend about £80m on Jota, Thiago and Kostas last summer? That’s before add ons and fees as Ed002 would point out. So probably what? £100m? In the middle of a C.V.. Plus the wage bill going up.
Are these the same owners who broke the world record transfer fee for a CB when we needed a CB?
The same owners that broke the world record transfer fee for a goalkeeper when we needed a goalkeeper?
The ones who smashed the clubs transfer record several times over?
The ones who expanded the stadium?
The ones who have steadily grown the club, leading to the premier league and champions league?
Them ones?

{Ed077's Note - well actually LFC havent paid most of the money for the likes of Jota and Thiago. The deals were structured in a way where not much money was paid up front.


7.) 08 Mar 2021 17:55:37
The amount of psychics on this site is astounding or maybe that should be psychos.


8.) 08 Mar 2021 18:17:55
Took on dept then Ed, kind of says it all that we didn’t have any money to spend but the owners still allowed Klopp to bring players in and put the club many millions into the red.

{Ed077's Note - for example you owe Wolves 35m or so for Jota. The other 9m was essentially paid by the sale of Hoever to Wolves.


9.) 08 Mar 2021 19:52:11
Waro, I see you are still spouting the same schstick as you did years ago about FSG. Back to blaming the owners again for things they have no control over as in injuries to key players. Pls, save your concern-trolling for those who care cos I don’t.

You say you knew we would b in this position 18 months ago. If that was the case then, why did you not come here and sound the alarm in the midst of all the joy and celebrations that happened during that time when Klopp was bringing us success under the financial investment if you know, FSG? You kept your distance cos you knew you had no leg to stand on at the time cos FSG had proved you wrong.


All you came here to do is gloat about how you were right. Funny thing is that you were nowhere to be found the past years when we were killing it under Klopp and FSG. Oh and one last thing. You coming here to gloat doesn’t mean you are right. It rather makes you a spineless coward who would rather gloat and dance over the proverbial grace of our club and attack the owners rather than back the team at its worst. With fans like you, who needs rival fans?


10.) 08 Mar 2021 23:34:29
nah, people like you and others say consistently every year that things are going to turn sour. it's a self fulfilling prophecy that has been compounded by the injuries.

Other than buying a spare tyre to join the CBs at the start of the season there isn't much more the club could have done to the playing squad to have prepared for the injuries we've sustained.


11.) 09 Mar 2021 08:56:26
Spot on, Faithinworks. They wallow in their own self pity that they cannot even enjoy the success that even comes their way cos they are too busy waiting and sometimes, hoping for things to go south so they can gloat. Terrible and gutless attitude, really.


12.) 09 Mar 2021 12:33:36
Mikey, we make £100 mill from tv alone and Oli i'm yet to meet a fan that wishes Liverpool fail, the stick from other fans is unbearable when we win, let alone perform like we are doing, great shout.


13.) 09 Mar 2021 12:35:15
Well, isn't that special? Football club fans want to be able to choose their owners, now? Wake up and smell the roses, and don't mind the thorns. That's not how it works.

Exactly 10 years ago, we were 2 weeks away from going into administration if the RBS had followed through on its threats. Until FSG came along and pulled us away from that and financed daily losses for a couple of years. And got Klopp. And set the ball rolling into making the club "the best in the World" (2018-2020).

It's always just about "what have you done for me lately". And the time periods get shorter and shorter.


14.) 09 Mar 2021 15:38:34
ArAy, that's how football works, stand still and get left behind.


15.) 09 Mar 2021 15:45:28
Oli, people like you is the reason I stopped coming onto this site and the fact that certain editors disliked my abrasive style of posting also, not because we won the league and champions League, believe it or not as a LIVERPOOL FC SEASON TICKET HOLDER I was quite pleased we won those cups, I know that's strange, a paying Liverpool supporter celebrating winning trophies, you're exactly the blinkered so called fan who doesn't read what is written but looks at the name at the bottom. You say you don't care, THEN don't READ IT and certainly don't reply, so you obviously do care so why lie.

Why did I not sound the alarm bells 18 months ago like I've stated, there's your blinkered outlook again, you have replied as if you're familiar with my previous posts, if you were then you'd know I did precisely that on numerous occasions only to be met with F$G apologist's like you who banged on about saving us, I'm sure you can look back to around that time and find plenty of my concerned posts.

Gloating about being right? I've written nothing here today but ask people to support the manager and players and hold the owners to account, so where do you get this nonsense from? You and a few others on here are like brexiteers, deep down you know you've been mugged of by billionaires but double down on your original opinion because you can't admit to being made to look an idiot, don't worry though lad, this today is a one off visit, so tomorrow you can snuggle up with your regular poster mates and kid each other that everything is fine and will work itself out and spout cliche bullsh*t, this is a "Liverpool family" or "this means more" Yankee advertising sound bytes that sheepole like you lap up because you support from afar. F$G OUT!


 

 

29 Jul 2019 19:34:48
Oxlade Chamberlain's form this pre season I feel is a major concern, not because he's suddenly become a bad player but because for me anyway, he seems to be playing within himself and (understandably) he's not moving with the same fluidity as before his injury, he looks like he's scared to open his legs up and play in that fantastic swashbuckling manner we know he can play, he seems to be looking after himself in the tackle also (again totally understandable) I just hope the psychologist's at the club can get into his head that he's fine and to just play his game. Tremendous player and we are and have missed him greatly imo. Fingers crossed he comes back to the player we know he is because he could be one of the very best midfielders in the country.

Waro

1.) 29 Jul 2019 19:52:00
Think it could be sometime into the New Year before he gets back full throttle.

Long haul recovery but the Ox is a great guy and he works really hard so he deserves good luck in getting back to his best,


2.) 29 Jul 2019 20:35:34
Its pre season aswell no point pushing to far and risking another injury.


3.) 29 Jul 2019 20:36:35
probably another season for me, and that's how it should be.

The nature of the injury was serious. It is a pressure free season. Help us of course but we need to look after him.


4.) 29 Jul 2019 20:56:22
berg469 is spot on. It’s pre season so no point over doing it and injuring himself again. He’s probably been told to get out there and just get a feel for it again. Not like he’s a kid who’s got to prove himself as we know what he’s capable of so it’s all about strengthening the muscles again and getting the flexibility back. It’ll probably take a while but if he can steer clear of the little injuries you get after a long lay off I’m confident he’ll by flying second half of the season.


5.) 29 Jul 2019 20:50:33
Probably didn’t help when those savages playing for Seville kicked lumps out of him.


6.) 29 Jul 2019 21:49:23
I have watched very little pre season football, so I can't really comment on how he is playing but I would certainly agree that we need him back to his best as he is a shoe in for me in our midfield.


7.) 30 Jul 2019 01:20:57
The worry for me is putting faith in ox an lallana who are the new signings too give us attacking threat from midfield which is probably the weakest aspect of our squad, whilst both have quality the injuries cannot be overlooked an they are unfortunately prone too injury, for a team that wants too go one better an overtake man city we can't be hanging round with players missing or waiting for them too be ready, this league waits for no one .


8.) 30 Jul 2019 01:36:38
Berg isn't spot on, he's not looking after himself and building up to the level we know he can achieve, imo he's been awful and playing within himself because mentally he's scared of being out injured again which as I've said is totally understandable but is no good for us and ultimately no good for him plus you've got the fans on here saying he's a new signing, your naieve if you think this because mentally he's scared but hopefully will come through it and be the player we all know he can be.


9.) 30 Jul 2019 05:58:20
Ye Ox has been playing like someone who had a major injury and missed almost all of last season . . .


10.) 30 Jul 2019 19:18:19
Wow, Waro tell us how you really feel. Before you go postal on Ox, you are aware that he is coming back from a devastating injury and also, he is nursing a calf knock this preseason. You say he has not been taking care of himself and all that. Do you have any info to back up your accusation or are you just making stuff up?

You are also aware that it takes some time to get going especially mentally and psychologically after recovering from such an injury. It's not about being scared to get injured again, per se. You have to be able to trust that knee to hold up when you put any pressure on it and until you can, it's a mental struggle. I would know cos I blew out my knee as well and I still have to be careful when I go running to not mess around. Oh, but I guess you already k new everything I just posted before you attacked Ox with abject nonsense with no facts or evidence to back them up. Never mind, then.

{Ed025's Note - i actually think waro was being very realistic and sympathetic about the ox redwolf, read his post again mate..


11.) 31 Jul 2019 18:07:55
Faithinworks, I know he's not going to be flying straight away and after last season and he needs to work himself back slowly, however he's been anonymous and has cut a frustrated figure in the games I've watched him, it's almost as if he knows he's playing within himself and seems mentally scared of playing his normally game, did I criticise him or lambast him for his performances so far? No!


 

 

 

Waro's rumour replies

 

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01 Nov 2018 16:41:01
IR89, I'd have couthinho back in a heartbeat.

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01 Nov 2018 16:40:43
Of course he'll go, it's the owners Modus operandi. Why do you all torture yourselves, even though the coutinho money helped fund the last few windows, they'll still be mortified to have spent a hell of a lot more than they ever envisaged even tough it's a fraction of city and united's spend. Oh and they'll take nowhere near £200 million for him, if they can get anywhere near the couthinho money, BANG he's gone.

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19 May 2017 14:17:52
Got a text late last night about VVD, don't shoot the messenger, but apparently the club are happy to say nothing about the link to him but have zero interest in the player, there looking at it helping them muddy the waters about other transfer targets, I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist.

Waro

 

 

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17 May 2017 18:34:02
I've messaged him today about any info on VVD, but had no reply as of yet, if he knows anything I'll post it.

Waro

 

 

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17 May 2017 11:32:26
Thought I'd pass it on as I don't normally get transfer target info from him, just team news and injuries, I'm not sure about it to be honest as were overloaded with midfielders I thought it'd be a defender he'd be telling me about, but time will tell.

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31 Oct 2021 09:06:36
So you think free speech is a bad thing then oli? How did you vote in the referendum lad? You sound like a right wing tory.

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01 Nov 2021 12:43:18
Olired, you're a wool who has never been to a game that's clear from your replies, how do I know? Because of the "owners and club can do no wrong" rhetoric you continually use, it's really really predictable and very very boring,

Waro

 

 

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01 Sep 2021 12:15:57
I thought you had more important things to worry about than who Liverpool buy or don't buy?

Waro

 

 

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01 Sep 2021 08:44:15
Wishful thinking on your part, but if by some miracle we did, I'd be over the moon and more than happy to come on here and say I was totally wrong.

Waro

 

 

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01 Sep 2021 09:41:19
No its not.

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