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17 Apr 2016 11:18:23
Don't know if it's already been posted but the team as I'm lead to believe is

Ward
Smith
Randall
Toure
Lucas
Stewart
Allen
Ibe
Ojo
Firmino
Sturridge

Just what I've been text this morning, thought some of you may be interested.

Waro

1.) 17 Apr 2016 11:35:45
Lots of pace.


2.) 17 Apr 2016 11:57:42
Nice one Waro - wierdly I was also told about this team sheet by a friend and it's exactly the same so let's see eh.


3.) 17 Apr 2016 11:58:45
I hope not! can't expect to make that many changes and win?


4.) 17 Apr 2016 12:03:28
Nice. I like the idea of 2 very experienced centre backs to help out Randall and Smith. A very quick attacking unit!


5.) 17 Apr 2016 12:19:41
No Flannagan?


6.) 17 Apr 2016 12:29:28
Was thinking the same is flanno injured?


7.) 17 Apr 2016 12:42:08
I like the adventurous spirit but looks like 4-2-3-1 with Stewart and Allen at base of midfield which I'm not sure suits Allen. he's going to need to be disciplined as with a very young attack we can expect them to lose possession a few times. Would also have preferred to see Flanno but let's see.

Interesting to see how Ibe, Ojo, Firmino and Sturridge get along, should be lot of fun and wouldn't want to be in their defence right now. Hope the youngsters have a great game and will be interesting to see how Ibe has gotten along out of the spotlight.


8.) 17 Apr 2016 12:47:30
Must admit, I hate to shoot players down and whenever they play I will support them fully but I personally don't see anything about Connor Randall that makes me think he has a future at the club. Seen him on enough occasions now to make a judgement and he is way down the pecking order behind Clyne and Flanno.

{Ed001's Note - he did grow into his appearances though, which suggests there is more to come if he gets a run of games.}


9.) 17 Apr 2016 15:36:28
aha maybe you were right ed, thought he was much improved today, showed a lot more pace than i've seen from him.


10.) 17 Apr 2016 16:49:42
The pace of Ibe and Ojo also meant we still had plenty of in Attack so all round a smart choice, giving Ibe and Ojo the opportunity to run at the defence which the did well.


11.) 17 Apr 2016 22:52:48
I love what Klopp is doing. He is building a squad mentality into this team as in, no matter who or what team plays, He expects that player or team to perform and do the job. That is what we saw today. All the boys played solidly as a unit and I was delighted with that. There are no first teamers in his eyes so people especially the lazy journalists asking dumb questions, need to get used to it.

He will play who he thinks is good enough for that game and most importantly, If you get picked, you go out there and perform or you'll be back on the bench and good luck, end of.


12.) 19 Apr 2016 08:31:31
HX I completely agree. I haven't seen anything of Randall to understand his involvement in the first team. Seems way out of his dept.


 

 

29 Nov 2015 12:09:26
This is the team I've just received,

mignolet Clyne Skrtel Lovren Moreno

Milner Allen can Ibe Lallana

Benteke.

Waro

1.) 29 Nov 2015 15:08:19
Perfect chance for Lallana and Milner to step up and make their presence felt. Good to see how the team gets on without our Brazilians.


2.) 29 Nov 2015 15:18:33
Sturridge and Hendo on the bench!


3.) 29 Nov 2015 15:20:26
5 british players. wow.


4.) 29 Nov 2015 15:45:27
I don't think you're right on this one mate. Firmino looks like he'll start.


5.) 29 Nov 2015 15:49:37
Firmino playing, Allen is not.


 

 

21 Nov 2015 11:29:12
Mignolet Clyne Skrtel Lovren Moreno lucas Can Milner Coutinho Lallana firmino.

That's what I've just received, but again it's not from my usual info so hopefully this lad redeems himself.

Waro

1.) 21 Nov 2015 11:51:02
Cheers Waro.


2.) 21 Nov 2015 12:01:37
No benteke?


3.) 21 Nov 2015 12:32:32
Don't moan Firminio means a start for you ;)


4.) 21 Nov 2015 14:36:11
No striker, no chance! 😢.


5.) 21 Nov 2015 16:04:40
Yeah firmino just like at Chelsea 😕.


6.) 21 Nov 2015 16:44:10
Spot on waro, thanks for the info mate.


7.) 21 Nov 2015 19:35:01
Fancy changing your comment firmnio?


8.) 21 Nov 2015 20:09:06
Firmino played well but should of banged two away!


9.) 21 Nov 2015 20:50:53
Thought just the same Marshy, however many may have had the same concerns before the game.

I am a fan of Firmino and he is beginning to truly show his worth now he has a few games under his belt.

Great display and graft from the whole team, thank you.


10.) 22 Nov 2015 13:17:21
for me firmino is getting used to the pace of the prem and with each game he is getting better and looking better, it was his best game yet and i really like him plus i think once he gets a grip on the prem he will start playing like he did for his last club Hoff i can't wait could he be our new luis suarez, i hope so :) )


11.) 23 Nov 2015 17:25:06
He's had two really good games for us, city and Chelsea away, hopefully he can't continue to be Able to Bring it in big games.


12.) 24 Nov 2015 13:47:55
To be fair if you bought a car and it broke down every week at some point you would you consider it a waste of resources and sell it. Sturridge for me is at the last chance saloon, if he can't stay fit until the end of the season (and perform) then he has to go in my opinion.


 

 

16 Oct 2015 15:51:09
Sturridge injured in training, might be out tomorrow, reliable info incase anybody questions it.

Waro

 

 

10 Jul 2015 09:56:13
Some of the older posters may remember a post of mine around 18 months ago about my son being out with a group of friends and ending up in Liverpool City Center having a drink straight after a game ( a loss if I remember )with a Liverpool player and his friends.

At the time I didn't reveal who the player was, because even though I wasn't happy about a player being out straight after a defeat, I didn't want to out him because he was a young player and we all make mistakes, but without naming him now, I'm pretty sure most of you can now guess who it was. Once a wrong'un always a wrong'un.

Waro

1.) 10 Jul 2015 10:49:45
And when else would you expect players to go out apart from after a match?

Would you prefer them to get tanked up the night before a match like they used to 40 years ago. I seem to remember in the 60ß's Liverpool were known for being particularly rubbish on boxing day and after new year?

Do you expect players from rubbish teams to wait until summer to go out again because they keep losing?


2.) 10 Jul 2015 11:13:10
I remember that past of yours. I had assumed it was Henderson, but obviously you mean Sterling.


3.) 10 Jul 2015 11:18:40
I don't understand - they are paid to play football, if you have an unproductive day at your job your life still goes on as normal.


4.) 10 Jul 2015 11:31:16
It was AG, the other fella, so getin on the piss with the lads straight after being beaten is OK in your book? We've got very different ideas on player etiquette, is it any wonder we are were we are with the attitude of some of our so called supporters. Unbelievable.


5.) 10 Jul 2015 11:52:23
I think a couple of these people replying are forgetting that these guys are professional athletes. Taste of decency aside, no athlete having a drink after a losing takes his career seriously.


6.) 10 Jul 2015 11:55:02
Forza, see the reply given, to the first poster. If I have an unproductive day at work I could accidentally kill somebody and end up in jail for 5years, and I'm only getting 35k a year. If a player has an unproductive day he can just go home to his £4million mock Georgian and have a money fight with his mates in the games room. Do you see were those comparisons fall down? Your not stupid of course you do but you will gloss over it to suit your post.


7.) 10 Jul 2015 12:14:39
I went on a night out in Liverpool a year or so again, was in a bar called Republik celebrating a friends birthday when we seen Sterling (who you're obviously referring to) out with a friend. He came in and just kind of stood there with his friend with a drink in his hand, no dancing or having fun, just standing there. I got a picture with him, being a drunken fan and all. I believe that same day we had lost too. If I was getting paid what he was I would've been in the VIP area with a bottle of Grey Goose! Must have been upset about his lack of money (sarcasm)


8.) 10 Jul 2015 12:36:21
A lot of English players are the same.
I have a great story about Andy Carroll that I can't share on here, no way will the eds post it.

{Ed001's Note - there are hundreds of stories about players that I am unable to post sadly, some managers as well. They really do not live the life of a professional athlete in the main.}


9.) 10 Jul 2015 13:16:09
They never have Ed001.
There always was a drinking culture at Liverpool, even and especially during the glory days. Good job there wasn't camera phones and social media back then.
Jimmy Case remarked in his book that no one could believe that Kenny Dalglish did not drink when he joined Liverpool. Think it was after the 77 Charity Shield.

It is just part of British / Irish culture generally, like it or not, that remains ingrained in many of our team sports particularly.
What's the difference really if he was in a bar, in the Player's Lounge, or at home with family or friends ?
They're going to do it. Unless the club puts an outright ban on alcohol.
Has any club done that ?

{Ed001's Note - it is a shame because it is why the British teams are dropping so far behind, well not the only reason, but it is a big part of the problem. Most cultures don't have the pathetic drink until you can no longer stand up, get in a fight, vomit everywhere, then go home via peeing in shop doorways culture England has.

I don't know of any club putting an outright ban on alcohol long term, they usually ban it during preseason.}


10.) 10 Jul 2015 13:16:52
The only free time that players get is straight after a match and few drinks is hardly going to get him disciplined. It is the fact that he is partial to being photographed with laughing gas and his overall attitude which will be his downfall.

{Ed001's Note - a few drinks might not get him disciplined but it does affect the body's recovery after exercise and explain why he is unable to manage a full season without needing a holiday. That is why Shanks, and many other managers of his era, used to try and marry off their young players, to try and get them to settle down and not go out on the lash so much.}


11.) 10 Jul 2015 13:19:16
Man go's out for a drink after a rubbish day in work FML


12.) 10 Jul 2015 13:20:55
C'mon Waro you are talking about 20 year old men! I understand that they earn huge amounts and are seen as role models but they are still young men so talking to women and having a beer with your friends on a Saturday is something they will naturally want to do regardless of their job. I don't understand why the defeat makes much difference either you can lose a game even if you've tried your hardest not to and played out of your skin!
Gerrard, Rooney, Wilshire the list goes on they have all be spotted in bars at various times throughout their career and in my opinion as long as they are behaving responsibly then why should you have an issue

{Ed001's Note - all 3 you have listed have got into trouble over their off field activities and are hardly a good choice to hold up as making it ok to drink. The three of them are knobs on the bevvies and are lucky they are professional footballers or they wouldn't have got away with half the crap they have.}


13.) 10 Jul 2015 13:43:40
In reply to some of the posts, it wasn't a few beers and a quiet chat to unwind, my lad said he was getting the champagne in and generally acting like a flash toe rag, my son left around 1 I think he said at the time because his behavior was irritating him, as my son had been to the game that day aswell and was of the same opinion as me " should he be out acting the big un ", straight after a game, god knows what time he stayed out until and judging by recent photos what he got up to.


14.) 10 Jul 2015 16:44:38
Didi and carra regularly went out drinking after games though t nobody could say they were never gutted after a defeat but sometimes you have to move on. In saying that they were established players not 19 years old trying to find consistency. That aside I had a mate who worked in sterlings school before he moved up to Liverpool. He was meant to have been trouble at a young age. Just what I heard.


15.) 10 Jul 2015 17:12:20
If Sterling wants to be our best paid player he should do whatever he can to get as good as possible. I an sure ronaldo never drinks like that in a season, and that's why he is the best in the world. Rooney could probably be at the same level, but never was professional enough. Seems like sterling has the same attitude, with less talent.


16.) 10 Jul 2015 18:20:23
19 year old "men" don't drink like the Brits do in France, Spain, Italy, Germany etc etc.
big problem in our culture with drink. Regardless of if your an athlete or not.


17.) 10 Jul 2015 19:05:47
No offence but this thread is rather pointless and isn't really an argument worth having. Every country has sportman who drink etc. not just in the uk. Fact is most footballers think they are the muts nuts and it's all down to money and greed.typified by sterling and his agent. Agents should be more regulated and this sort of thing could be minimised and hopefully ruled out. Football ain't what it used to be and gradually I am falling out of love with what the game has become. Rant over lol


18.) 10 Jul 2015 19:07:52
I agree with Waro and you boys by the way, it's not something you want to see in this day and age. Health education has moved on so much, and these players are made millionaires to kick a bit of leather about to the best of their ability.
But wouldn't it send a message if the club, and football in general, stopped being sponsored by Carlsberg, Carling, Chang, Guinness etc etc.
They stopped it with ciggies, so why not the drink ?


19.) 10 Jul 2015 23:26:39
I actually met Stevie G about 10 years ago in a club in Liverpool. He was drinking but on closer inspection it was non alcoholic Becks.
Joey Barton was there too (seperately). Don't know if he was drinking.
Either way both players were out on a night out after a Saturday match.
The day after a match is a day off they should go have a good time whatever way they please. It's their choice.

{Ed007's Note - What kind of $hitholes do you drink in that lets Joey Barton in? Do you wipe your feet on the way out?}


20.) 11 Jul 2015 00:47:20
Most Gaelic footballers these days don't go on the lash during playing season and if they do it's completely out of the limelight and they are all amitures( not payed) and most are fitter and more dedicated than any pro footballer. He should have more sense he's a lucky young man to be in the position he's in .


21.) 11 Jul 2015 03:52:35
@Donegal.red Michael Murphy (Donegal Captain) came into my local shop with the rest of the donegal players and all he bought was a bottle of water and an apple. I am friendly with many young guys who are on the gaelic county teams and have to train 2 or 3 times a week for both county and club and are closely monitored and told they are not allowed to be out partying, and they do it despite not being payed a penny and all have other fulltime jobs, because they genuinely want to improve their fitness and ability. Imo its a disgrace seeing soccer players on such high wages partying the way they do


22.) 12 Jul 2015 06:13:06
To be fair although sterling is clearly a knob head, drinking straight after a game does make sense, it's the furthest night away from their next game and they have the most time to recover, I'm not saying players should drink but if they're going to shouldn't it be well before the next game??

{Ed001's Note - no that is simply not true. It is the worst time to drink as it is when the body needs to be recovering from the match. One of the first things you are coached, or should be, it certainly is in athletics, is that you need to steer clear of alcohol the night after competing to allow your body to recover. Probably explains why are athletes have been so much more successful in recent years than our football teams. They are treated as professionals in athletics, with every little thing looked at that can improve their performance level, even to the point that they are taught the correct way to wash their hands to ensure they are properly clean to cut back on colds.}


 

 

 

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05 Oct 2016 19:12:05
Sorry about this ed001, has my post from an hour or so gone aswell now?

Waro

{Ed001's Note - still no idea sorry.}


1.) 05 Oct 2016 19:42:36
They have mate, people disrespecting Hillsborough, that's enough for me. Good luck with the site ed001. Cheers.


2.) 05 Oct 2016 20:27:37
Waro you certainly have a taste for the dramatic. let the trolls be trolls
Mate. It helps them cope with their own sad lives.


3.) 05 Oct 2016 21:04:05
The sitecis open to anyone- I think some poor quality kids pretending to be man U fans must be reading the site and just disagreeing with every sensitive post.
The disagree/ agree buttons definitely need to go, at least on the banter page.
Can we have a voting thread?
Dont let's have an anonymous button based poll- if you a view on it, write it here and let the Eds know how many of the readers are for and against the buttons.

{Ed001's Note - it is not club based as it happens on every site.}


4.) 05 Oct 2016 21:39:22
Yes but why can't we just get rid of them? Completely pointless unless u can explain eds? Do not serve any purpose whatsoever do they? Not sure what's happened but in general they cause nothing but problems and they don't achieve anything. Eds?

{Ed001's Note - then ignore them.}


5.) 05 Oct 2016 22:24:25
I'm with you on this one Waro, bit out of order that post been removed.

to the other posts, this isn't about the disagree button. i agree it's a pointless feature though but what can we do, as ed1 says. ignore it.


6.) 05 Oct 2016 22:50:39
I didn't see the offending posts but it doesn't matter which club you support, disrespecting the memories and the families of those who suffered at Hillsbrough is totally unacceptable.
That said, our fanbase needs to get its own house in order with respect to tragedies like Munich.


7.) 05 Oct 2016 23:01:28
Very true indeed Ron.


8.) 05 Oct 2016 23:23:43
Any fellow United fan disrespecting the hillsborough tragedy is scum and no fan of United, not as far as I'm concerned. Same goes to any fans disrespecting the Munich victims. Life is more important that a game of football.


9.) 06 Oct 2016 01:50:18
Was the post anything to do with the book that's getting released. End of the day it's not good to mock any tragedy or loss of life, be that sport or otherwise.


10.) 06 Oct 2016 00:07:54
Stand-United - I couldn't agree more. it's just football. this we're talking about are PEOPLES lives. some just take it a step too far.


11.) 06 Oct 2016 10:42:10
Waro and fellow Reds and Eds,

Waro mate I feel your pain : (

Hillsborough is a very emotive subject, and there are cretins everywhere who use this, purely because it is so emotive and they know they will illicit an angry response. The same for Munich, and any other tragedy regardless of whether it is at a sports venue or any sort of accident. The loss of loved ones should never be used as a means of getting at a another human being, but it is such a sad indictment of today's society that innocent deceased can be mocked so easily, without a second thought to the feelings of those who are affected the most. The dead cannot respond to such mockery, but the living will always do so against anyone tarnishing their memories to the departed. Although it is difficult to ignore, don't let these people deter you from posting, if you do, you let them win. These people have the IQ of a dead slug, they are grade A moronic keyboard warriors; to quote Mark Twain " 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. '

Rise above this mate, Ignore the morons, you are better than this :)

Peace out to all
YNWA.


 

 

01 Oct 2016 17:50:08
I'm sure there were plenty of you moaning, come on own up. As Delia would say " let's be havin you ", if you don't own up to being a cryin b####rd then I'm asking people to name and shame. If none of you moaned then I stand corrected and apologise.

Great result, as I post yesterday, I new it would be very very difficult and so it proved, I asked for a scruffy 1-0 but I'll take 2-1 all day.

Waro

1.) 01 Oct 2016 18:12:16
I had a moan to myself at half time about playing at 60%, bet klopp had a moan too!


2.) 01 Oct 2016 18:24:04
Swansea play a brand of football perfectly suited to counter the way we play.

That's why I didn't make a prediction this week. Because In this game I saw a potential slip up, but I will never back Liverpool to lose.

This is the best result of the season so far in my opinion. We did not play particularly well, but we came back from a losing position away from home to take all 3 points. It is the games like these which win you titles. Any team can win when they are in form and everything is going right. It is when you hit a rocky patch and need to grind out results that separates the the winners from the also rans.

I wasn't moaning at half time because ever since that Dortmund game earlier this year in Europe, I always think we have a chance of coming back into any game, against any opposition.

16 points from the first 7 games would normally put you top of the table. Unfortunately though, City have had a relatively easy start with only really United and Swansea providing any kind of resistance. Hopefully they fight out a draw with Spurs so we stay 2nd but the gap to the top is closed to 3 points just before the international break.


3.) 01 Oct 2016 18:24:26
if you didn't moan at that shocking first half then something's wrong.


4.) 01 Oct 2016 19:01:16
I feared defeat and moaned about it first half!
I also moaned second half for poor defending and finishing we got away with three points Swansea missed clear clear chances!

{Ed025's Note - a win is a win mate..


5.) 01 Oct 2016 19:11:01
I moaned because in the first half we were Terrible. In the second very good but not brilliant.3 pts so let's move to the next one.


6.) 01 Oct 2016 19:12:22
No Matta you along with others on here are "moaners". You have to back the team to turn around the deficit!

Until 90 minutes have been played anything can happen. You lot seem to think the game ends at halftime with the tripe being posted on the live chat.


7.) 01 Oct 2016 19:22:18
Matt, no completely disagree, I didn't moan because apart from conceding a silly goal again I felt we were controlling the game and on the odd occasion we were getting behind them and there was some last ditch defending from them, I just wanted the ball moved quicker and I new we'd get chances it was just whether we would take them, but the point of my original post was not to moan if things didn't go our way but to wait and see how it panned out, this knee jerk reaction really angers me, we win and people like yourself revel in the result lose and you can't wait to get on here and slag them off, look up the definition of the word support and try it, you can moan as much as you like when this team and manager have had a reasonable out of time to get the results we want and if we don't then moan away.


8.) 01 Oct 2016 19:53:13
Too many doubters in the chat room today I had to leave at half time.
"Wijnaldum is ****". and offers nothing to the team.
"Karius is useless" (already)
"All the lads were on the lash last night and are still asleep"
"I believe . Swansea will win 3-0"
"No chance of getting a draw"

I was accused of being an embarrassment to LFC fans as I was too "arrogant".

Well the team won when they weren't playing well and that to me is a sign of champions.

{Ed025's Note - its the modern microwave supporters ron, instant success or nothing mate..


9.) 01 Oct 2016 19:54:35
i was obviously backing us to turn it around but I moaned to the lads about how poor we were. Like most. I don't get the point your trying to make?

Never moan at a shot display of football? Because every game I've ever been to and that's a lot most fans behave like me. So maybe you and puzzled are an exception.

I do actually read what you write waro but most on here can go wistle because they don't know their arse from their elbow.


10.) 01 Oct 2016 20:07:16
So 1-0 down at half time, playing not great and you never moaned. Never heard as much bull in my life. Only a blind person would not see we were crap in the first half. Just to add Waro your opinion is not the be all and end all thankfully.


11.) 01 Oct 2016 20:11:17
3-0 down at half time in Istanbul and I never sang YNWA so loudly in my life.
Not going to moan at 1-0 down at half time, ever.


12.) 01 Oct 2016 20:12:48
Seems different this season. Backed us to win at half time so got decent odds. Never would've had the faith to make that bet last season.


13.) 01 Oct 2016 20:22:19
Danray, your an embarrassment lad. Plastic fan, notice I didn't call you a supporter.


14.) 01 Oct 2016 20:26:32
Wow if that's true Ron (and I'm sure it is) then I hope you took a mental note of there names and pull them in the future when they try and blag that they were behind klopp and the team from day one because trust me they will.


15.) 01 Oct 2016 20:31:37
People need to get a grip, its football and an internet chat room / group, sometimes you have to take things with a pinch of salt . Stop catching feelings . People are so soft these days . You can't say boo To a goose without people crying like a little girl anymore. Criticising and pointing out the bad things in a game is part and parcel of it affraid . Can't be sweeping dirt under the carpet and papering over the cracks . Unless you name us .,


16.) 01 Oct 2016 20:35:53
No Waro mate, I didn't take note, it's not about naming and shaming for me.
Klopp wants believers, it's all he's asked from the fans from day 1. I say we give it our best shot because our manager and his team deserve at least that.
I felt really disappointed today with all the comments.


17.) 01 Oct 2016 20:52:02
1 down at half time against the swans, playing bad footy. didn't moan, not on a public forum, but I was wondering where my football team from the previous few weeks went. Normally I would moan about an international break, but this one seems to come at a good time for us, the lads looked drained in the first half and a break might do them good.


18.) 01 Oct 2016 20:57:37
Your a bigger man than me Ron, I'd be giving them hell but then again I'm an argumentative sod but I think you already new that mate didn't you haha.


19.) 01 Oct 2016 21:04:15
Ron. I really like you mate! But I love your optimism YNWA MATE.


20.) 01 Oct 2016 21:10:38
I don't think anyone could doubt the strength of your character Waro, don't worry about that mate. I'm not the bigger man but appreciate the sentiment. 😎

Glad for the international break, just hope we don't pick up any injuries. Can't wait to give it to the Mancs, we owe them after last season's smash and grab!
I think the Manc game could be the making of Karius and Wijnaldum 🏆.


21.) 01 Oct 2016 21:13:10
Think you said we would finish 8th this season Connectlogic? 😉.


22.) 01 Oct 2016 22:55:21
That was me who said 8th -13th and could still happen 😭.


23.) 02 Oct 2016 03:55:02
It's just toxic from both sides tbh.


24.) 02 Oct 2016 08:49:35
Over course of the season I'm sure there will be more games like yesterday, we won't be at our swashbuckling best all of the time, so I think some folk need to be prepared for that.

Yes we were poor first half, yes people are entitled to their opinions and have a moan, were we all not happy after grinding our the result!

Really goood win IMO.


 

 

29 Sep 2016 23:02:33
A big thank you to Derry city and Strabane district council for passing a motion for there local newsagents to stop selling the sun. Well done and I hope any posters who live in this district push this to as many people as possible 👍👍.

Waro

1.) 30 Sep 2016 02:21:02
Fantastic.


2.) 30 Sep 2016 13:28:44
It's Londonderry mate 😎😁🍺.


 

 

26 Sep 2016 11:09:48
Nice to see more or less 100% positivity on here at the minute, let's hope this continues should we have a negative result in the future! So remember people, keep the faith, no switching your opinion every other week!

Waro

1.) 26 Sep 2016 11:26:31
Hey Morning Waro, and fellow Reds and Eds,

isn't it just :) the bickering and criticism on here after a loss is quite unbearable. It's amazing how winning in style and comfort can lift everyone's spirits. Long may it continue :)

I have no aspirations or expectations of the season, as long as we continue to improve, the next game will always be our most important match, until the next match, and the next. :)

Never been a doubter, but Klopp has made me super believer! Love the style and swagger at the moment.

Peace to all
YNWA.


2.) 26 Sep 2016 12:03:15
Well said redsanity, excellent reply 👌.


3.) 26 Sep 2016 12:16:40
Agreed Waro! I like this version of you :) hopefully the positivity remains after we play the Mancs. win lose or draw!


4.) 26 Sep 2016 12:35:27
Should be beating mid table teams like Manchester United, would be disappointed if we don't. Swans first though.


5.) 26 Sep 2016 13:22:27
The positivity is always here when we win. it is when we don`t win that we need true positivity to lift our spirits when things aren`t going well and trust me, those days will come. We just have to hang together and keep the faith when those days arrive. Off to Swansea and we should not let up in our support, regardless of the result.


6.) 26 Sep 2016 14:39:09
A "super believer"!
Nice one Red Sanity, I like it. The doubters will gradually let go of their negativity and join the believers.
We've had double the number of away games to home games, European football factor hasn't really kicked in yet, but we are in the top 4,having played some of our hardest away games.

Good post Waro 😉.


7.) 26 Sep 2016 15:52:35
Agreed waro 😊 top post.


8.) 26 Sep 2016 17:41:45
Completely agree, a refreshing change.

Surely FSG deserve a bit of credit in all of this, Waro ;-)


 

 

15 Sep 2016 22:08:23
Evening MK scouser, I've just watched (on catch up) the panorama programme that was on a few nights ago I think, about gambling addiction. Remembering our slight disagreement from a few months ago, I would urge you to watch it if you've got time mate, it may give you a more balanced insight into the problem. If you do watch it, let me know what you think fella.

Waro

1.) 15 Sep 2016 22:31:17
I'm open minded buddy. If I see it I'll give it a watch, and let you know!

Sadly I may struggle as i have moved into my own place and i now only have free view TV and 4G data haha. It's awful, I have to actually live in the real world! There is someone living with me as well who claims I knocked them up back when my mind was poisoned by Satellite TV and unlimited broadband! It's a bit unusual. It talks to me. Like not by messenger or text. Like actually talks; for real!

My generation don't cope well with no digital contact and communication.


2.) 15 Sep 2016 23:49:25
it is known what can gambling do to a life not only to one but to destroy whole families, but i think you guys are missing a point. lots of clubs have betting houses as their sponsors, times move. it was a good buissnes offer for us so why not. society should be working on that problem not Liverpool f. c. don't get me wrong I would rather our club is sponsored by other companies but if the offer was good we should grab it. Anyway good post, read your conversation weeks back. Glad you mentioned that again waro.


3.) 16 Sep 2016 00:38:01
Cannot agree with you, Mandzo. How would you feel if Benson and Hedges put in a good offer? Or, god forbid, The S*n?
Money and 'good business' shouldn't supercede morals and ethics. The issue of betting agencies and gambling in sport is debatable but we should be evaluating any negative impact rather just grab a good offer.


4.) 16 Sep 2016 04:00:43
@Mandzo - It is morally bankrupt for the club to agree to any sponsorship deal involving betting companies. You say it is not a problem for LFC to deal with but surely, by welcoming a betting company as a sponsor, the club is adding to the problem? The club did not need to make such a deal, it chose to do so without any forethought of the potential consequences. Gambling ruins lives, plain and simple, and the club, as ambassadors of the community and a beacon so whom many look up to, has a responsibility to the fans - welcoming a betting company is not upholding that responsibility in my opinion.


5.) 16 Sep 2016 07:12:04
Our longest running sponsor is carlsberg. I'm assuming you're all up in arms about that as alcohol ruins loads more lives than gambling?


6.) 16 Sep 2016 07:31:26
Clubs act within the law, I'm not really sure they are interested in the ethicality of it.
But I would question the judgment of someone who acquired a gambling addiction because we had a certain sponsor. As pointed out, Carlsberg was our sponsor for years, how is it really different?


7.) 16 Sep 2016 07:32:19
Both gambling and alcohol ruin many lives a year as they are extremely addictive but I would argue that a person who's going to gamble will gamble anyway, whether the club has the betting company's logo on their shirt or not. Betting can only be done 18 plus anyway and these people will be past the stage of getting influenced by what's on their favourite football team's shirts. I can see your reasoning Waro, you would feel the club shouldn't be giving promotion to such a destructive behaviour but with the influx of bookies in England in the decade or so, you can't go more than 10 minutes without seeing one. So I doubt the club having a betting company's logo on their shirt will have more effect than seeing a bookies on the road, or have added much or at all to the statistic of people with a gambling addiction.


8.) 16 Sep 2016 09:11:16
I would prefer it if betting and alcohol companies didn't sponsor football clubs, particularly my club! But I agree with a previous poster in respect that the those who chose to gamble will do so anyway.
In my opinion I think the companies chose to sponsor a club in order to persuade there audience to use them instead of the thousands of competitors. Rather than aim to attract new customers. I think people decide to gamble then choose a bookie, rather than seeing a bookie and decide to take up gambling.
There is also the question as to where the line is drawn as fast food, fizzy drinks etc have a negative impacts on the lives of many when taken to excess.
So I'm almost on the fence on this issue. As a father I'd rather see those darn golden arches banned rather than a bookie. but as the years go by. that may flip about!
However, being morally responsible is an admirable quality and I respect those of you who have taken a stance against it.


9.) 16 Sep 2016 09:47:38
OK MK, no problem mate. Hopefully you can catch it because it's content has a bit of science behind it showing the effects on the brain during a gambling session and how addictive it can be. Cheers for the contribution of all who replied, I realise it's a divisive subject, some think it's easy, just don't go into the bookies or on your mobile but I'd say it's just as difficult for some people to do as saying to an alcoholic to just not go into a pub or off licence.

The buzz from winning is like nothing else and the losing can be severely depressing, but what some people don't realise is to some people gambling is just for the buzz and they sub consciously don't care if they win or lose in the end it's just how much of a buzz they get from a gambling session.


10.) 16 Sep 2016 10:12:40
Sorry Magician i find your argument a bit redundant. May as well bring back cigarette advertising if people are going to do it anyway. there's plenty of research that suggests the subliminal influence of advertising and i'm not sure it would do a recovering gambler much good to have reminders of bookies everytime he watched the footy.


11.) 16 Sep 2016 10:29:12
This is such a silly post, so are we going to prevent Dunkin Doughnuts, Lucozade, McDonalds, etc, etc from sponsoring our club because they promote a brand that has the potential to cause obesity? Do you want the club to become ultra PC and only be sponsored by ultra ethical brands!

Yes the club have a moral duty to be ethical, and yes gambling addiction has ruined many families and lives, but how far do you go with it? Do you want it to be detrimental to the finances of the club?


12.) 16 Sep 2016 10:33:26
Anything you can get out the bookies I say take it. Not too often they payout.


13.) 16 Sep 2016 10:48:36
My point is that in comparison to things like TV advertisement, online advertisement and proximity and amount of bookies, a logo of a betting company on a football team's jersey will have nominal effect, people are there to watch the players not stare at the shirts. There are bigger fish to fry than shirt advertisement, such as the aforementioned ones. I'm sure if we were to do a study the majority of betting addicts would point to the TV, or just simply walking in rather than a logo on their favourite team's shirt for getting them started on this destructive behaviour.


14.) 16 Sep 2016 11:02:10
Don't know much about gambling but know plenty about alcoholism and don't really have a problem with shirt sponsoring for either as that isn't the problem. We both it isn't that either are inherently bad things it is to do with he people who suffer from it. It isn't the gambling or the drinking it is that the people who suffer struggle with not doing it to excess. For lack of a better term 'normal' people can do it in a controlled manner, eg bet a fiver when they go to a game or a few pints with a mate. Someone with addiction will bet all their wages or drink till they black out, regardless of the consequences of either bankruptcy or a detriment to their health.

But big issue is with the adverts for betting during a match. With drink it isn't seeing carlsberg on an lfc shirt that triggers temptation (partly because when drinking didn't care for name brands or beer, was more tescos own vodka) it was things that cause euphoric recall or gave an excuse to drink. Which is why I think the adverts showing odds are wrong, showing an advert tempting you to bet on Liverpool to make a comeback after losing a first half to me is the same as showing an advert to drink to take stress away of watching your team lose.

So don't see seeing sponsors on a shirt as a necessarily bad thing, as people in addiction know this stuff exists. It is more adverts glamorising it or providing temptation that's a problem.


15.) 16 Sep 2016 11:20:41
I can't really understand how anyone could disagree with waro on this, I'm only 19 yet I've already been through a heavy gambling addiction and I think that's another part to the problem, it's becoming a lot more common in young lads who just get easily influenced by it.

I'll give you a run through of how it started with me and maybe a couple might understand, so I turn 18 I'm buzzing obviously I can now legally drink alcohol, buy tobacco and gamble, so what's the first thing I do, I go to the shop grab a crate of Stella a pouch of gold leaf and get ready to have a drink and watch the football, up pops an ad for gambling - about the 50th gambling ad in that 5 minute segment- so obviously realising I can now crack on and place a bet if I want, I jump on the computer make an account and place a £10 bet, I won it picked up a nice £30 and thought decent I'm up £20 which I just leave in the betting account for now, fast forward a couple days later up pops a promotion in my emails, telling me that because I'm a new customer (customer always makes me laugh, what they really mean is now I've allowed myself to be their next mark in their hustle) I can have up to £20 to spend for free on any selected casino game, so again sounds decent let's give it a shot, £20 on 1st twelve (roulette) oh balls I lost, oh I've got £30 in the account though so obviously I decide to use that I lose, by this point I'm thinking rubbish that's £30 and I become greedy and want it back and deposit more (biggest mistake of my life) before I knew it that was the months pay check gone, comes to next month and even a week before my pay day I'm already looking at what game I can play and how to maximise my odds of winning (which you quite simply can't do) so my money comes in and before I know it it's gone, eventually my partner started asking me questions as to where my money goes and why it's her paying for our pub lunch all the time, and through sheer embarrassment I lie and say I leant it to some one, who was paying me back go again to the next pay check and I now have to find a way to come up with the money that I said I was getting paid back so I end up back at it and trying to win it back. At this point I'm in an endless cycle and I'm screwed.

Luckily I escaped it all in the end by coming clean to everyone and they helped me get through it, that's not to say it's escaped me though as I'm left owing over £1000 to loan companies that I borrowed from to fund the addiction after all my money had gone, but I was so close to losing my partner, my dad was ready to chuck me out as I was still living with him at the time and basically my life was nearly torn apart by it (I know it was my own actions that caused it) so after telling you the long winded story, which if anything was nice to get off my chest, I'll get to my point, it started with me being a giddy 18 year old placing a little football bet after seeing an advertisement and ended with me nearly losing everything that mattered to me.

Sorry for the long post and to anyone who reads it I appreciate you taking the time to do so.


16.) 16 Sep 2016 12:12:42
Paradise, I'm sorry to hear about that and glad you're back on track. Your post shows the dangers of gambling but also reinforces the point that TV gambling Ads are a far worse problem than a logo on a shirt. That is a far more effective battle to fight as I believe that it is thee main cause of gambling addictions developing. Logo's on a team's jersey have a nominal effect on people gambling. The issue would be convincing the likes of the morally bankrupt Rupert Murdoch to take the betting ads off his channels. I feel us getting £20m (not too sure on the amount suggested) to stick a companies' name on your jersey is broad daylight robbery, helps the club and has minimal effect on people buying or simply researching the company. Betting adverts on the LFC TV channel would be a completely different story however.


17.) 16 Sep 2016 12:24:29
Sorry to hear that paradise but glad you've come out of the otherwise and hopefully a wiser person mate, unfortunately there are some who don't have a support network such as yours and they stuck in the cycle that you've mentioned, but I take my hat off to you, well done kid keep it up. Don't bother yourself about the disagrees to my post pc it's the name at the bottom not the content!

Scarface, why was it a silly post? I asked a fellow poster a question about a subject we had discussed a few months earlier, a subject he didn't really know a lot about so the panorama programme may have opened his eyes to the subject in question, nice to see what a selfless and sympathetic person you are, you must be a rock to your friends and family.


18.) 16 Sep 2016 12:39:28
Interesting thread this one. My own conclusion. Surround yourself with people you trust and be honest. It's inevitable someone you know will be affected one way or another by some form of addiction. I don't think advertising necessary is the root cause but it sure doesn't help prevent it.


19.) 16 Sep 2016 14:13:17
So is advertising for gambling sites as innocuous as promoting McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts or as sinister and detrimental as cigarette advertising? I guess it all depends on how much you believe advertising affects the psyche of the viewing public. I once bought a Hitachi sound system because the team were sponsored by them but i also accept that not every supporter is as gullible as I was.


20.) 16 Sep 2016 14:20:53
Did anyone know LFC has their own official 'coconut water partner'?
Ridiculous what the game has been reduced to by businessmen and the filthy lucre.


 

 

 

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01 Aug 2016 16:21:36
Cheers ed023 and MK. Just can't be bothered having to defend myself when I'm simply passing on what I've heard.

No you don't have to expect criticism at all wayne, there's nothing in my post controversial or criticising anyone or anything so you can just hit disagree and move on, it's people who can't wait to shout down what your saying but when your proved correct never come back and say "fair play, that bit of info was correct"! They'll just wait for the next time you post anything to hit you with the same replys, I could have just ignored it but it just comes across as jealousy for some strange reason ( that they don't like the fact that you no people at the club) I was a steward on the paddock annie Rd and the tunnel for several years in the nineties so this may help you understand were I get some info from, obviously unless I'm lying about that also.

Don't worry annie I won't be putting the teams up, I pretty much (with the odd exception) packed that in midway through last season and I'll be sticking to that this season.

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01 Aug 2016 14:23:16
Wavy, I was reluctant as I've explained but having seen the amount of posts asking the eds about left backs I thought I'd tell people what I heard even though it was last week because I thought it would have been reported by now that we're going with milner at left back, but it hasn't been reported via the media as sid has said, I don't go on social media so if it's been on there then fair enough you will consider it old news but I'm not on twitter or Facebook so I wouldn't have seen it, but by the amount of posts on hear asking about amavi and hector etc suggested to me it hasn't, but I stand corrected if it has, I was just trying to put people in the picture because they keep asking the question.

Anything I get told from now on I'll keep away from this site because I can't be arsed responding to people who don't believe anything that doesn't come from the eds. So feel free to respond anyway you like, some of the older posters will tell you that some of the info I've posted the past has been relatively accurate.

I posted last season that sturridge was injured in training before spurs away, it wasn't on any media site and I received similar responses and worse as these replys today and I swore I wouldn't bother again, I should have stuck to what I said then and I definitely will from now on.

Waro

{Ed023's Note - Waro, you will always have keyboard warriors who will spout negativity towards anyone supplying info. It is hard but just ignore them, your knowledge is very valuable to this page so keep posting}


 

 

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01 Aug 2016 12:22:01
Mystic red, I made it up to try and appear to be in the know, I've never had any inside info it's all a big sham to impress posters on the site, you've sussed me out well done!

Thought my post was pretty self explanatory, obviously not. Don't know why I bother.

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22 Jul 2016 21:26:37
Angus, maths not your strong suit?

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10 Jul 2015 13:43:40
In reply to some of the posts, it wasn't a few beers and a quiet chat to unwind, my lad said he was getting the champagne in and generally acting like a flash toe rag, my son left around 1 I think he said at the time because his behavior was irritating him, as my son had been to the game that day aswell and was of the same opinion as me " should he be out acting the big un ", straight after a game, god knows what time he stayed out until and judging by recent photos what he got up to.

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28 Dec 2016 23:11:22
Harry your a buffoon and not someone I wish to challange as i'd be on a hiding to nothing as I think English is'nt your first language. Ed025, it was you who started name calling and I know you won't believe it but I wasn't bating it was my genuine opinion.

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28 Dec 2016 22:47:32
Whoa, why my flabber has never been so gasted ed025, i'm not trying to turn anyone against you at all. Look at the thread! It is about myself venturing onto the man u page then you popped up saying we're obsessed with united which may well be the case with some but not all. Do you really want to be that ed who can say what he wants but censors others? I will refrain from name calling because i'm bigger than that, i'd urge you to calm down my mate.

Waro

{Ed025's Note - my reply was in response to you baiting them waro, its not banter when it turns nasty mate and i wanted you to feel what its like to have your club trashed. we can do without the hassle..


 

 

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28 Dec 2016 22:02:11
I've got a 40th birthday party in there straight after the game the sandon, i'll look out for ye mate. On another note ed025 is looking after his brethren on the mancs page, blues living there dreams through mancs, does it get any sadder.

Waro

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28 Dec 2016 21:06:09
Cheers boys, just had a quick look on there page and felt they needed an attitude adjustment because of the nonsensical babbel they were posting. I just can't help myself, your right sandon mate, I need an outlet for my anger and the mancs are fair game hahahaha.

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23 Dec 2016 15:45:05
Glad I didn't disappoint ed025.

Waro

{Ed025's Note - never waro.. :)