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18 Feb 2018 22:07:21
Evening all. Just re watched the match and it fills me with confidence in our chances in the champions league. I know our defence isn't solid and we will concede but psg and real defences aren't impenetrable by far. Not comparing us to them as that's not the point of this post. I just think that although our performances in Europe will make other teams take notice of us they still can't play us with a game plan to park buses as it's knockout competition. So as long as teams attack us we will get opportunities and right now I can't see a deadlier front 3 in Europe. And I'm not saying that with red tinted glasses either. Kindly shoot me down if you feel otherwise or let me know your thoughts on our prospects.

FatboyFatNotSlim

{Ed0333's Note - Two issues lead me to believe we can’t win the competition. Our midfield isn’t of standard and we are an inexperienced team. Can we game manage a semi final or even a final? I hope I’m wrong and such is the rich tapestry of football anything can happen. After all Everton scored against us at Anfield this season.


1.) 18 Feb 2018 22:42:33
Before everyone gets carried away about winning the CL just remember what happened after we beat Man City. Secondly we are yet to play a top side in CL yet. Of course that’s not our fault and we’ve beaten who we’ve been given but why can’t people get a bit of perspective. Our front 3 is the only part of our team which is high quality. The rest is not. Just read back at your own comments over the last 12 months. Unless improve considerably we are going to get found out and the likes of Can, Robertson, Matip and Milner are not going to make anyone lose any sleep. For now let’s focus on beating West Ham and Newcastle.


2.) 18 Feb 2018 22:50:02
I feel we can take any team over two legs but the final would be a lot about game management whiciv we seem to struggle with. Let's hope our boys and manager prove us wrong and go all the way and win the thing.


3.) 19 Feb 2018 00:09:52
we have our weaknesses like any team. as much as we need to keep perspective after wins like vs porto, we need to also not over scrutinize things if / when we get dumped out of the comp. we are right in it and have every chance to go as far as anyone!

on another point, our midfield is the concern for me. still easy to turn them all around. hendo, milner, gini all guilty of over-pressing vs porto and leaving our defence exposed. couple chances came from those moments and on another day Porto score those goals. anyways, it's all to play for!

exciting huh!?


4.) 19 Feb 2018 00:13:46
I know exactly what you mean ed. If we were able to hold onto leads and see games out we would be second easy. And probably within a realistic striking distance of city. This is something you need to be able to do to won ucl. It has been better since Vvd came in but still, when we try to park a bus we always collapse. 2 0 leads don't feel safe like they should. We can apply pressure with the best of them but we can't take it. I still think we have a shout. If we play all super attacking teams in our run to final. Also, we do look more steady with Vvd. I harbour a hope.


5.) 19 Feb 2018 00:50:29
Our attack is lethal. If our midfield play like they did against City and our back four can continue to develop with VVD and Karius now in the team, we could get there. I think it will come down to Klopp's selections and substitutions on a game by game basis.

{Ed0333's Note - our midfield have to play like they did against City in the League at least 6 more times in the Champions League. I’m not sure they have that in them. I’m not being negative just a realist. Im the first one to admit that I besmirch this midfield on a regular basis and I would gladly eat humble pie if they won the damn thing.


6.) 19 Feb 2018 02:16:37
100% agree with with Razor. Lfc fans gets too excited too easily and then the team let's us down. just like they did at Swansea and West brom. i am not confident about the team until they win.


7.) 19 Feb 2018 02:40:56
You never know with the Champions League. Logic tends to go out of the window in these big games and players can play out of their skin. I do worry for the player's nerves, but going far in the competition is bound to give the team and Klopp essential experience. I think we have the quality to go all the way, but our midfield needs to be playing like their lives depend on it.

If we make the Semis I'd be delighted, it's a great platform to build on.

Deep down I know we're going to go all the way and win it, it's what Liverpool do in the CL, eh?


8.) 19 Feb 2018 09:19:17
The 2005 team didn't have much CL experience so i wouldn't worry so much about that but our midfield as Ed says is pretty weak.

Saying that, back in 2005 we had some players that had not right to be playing in a CL final and we somehow still won. I guess on our day we could beat anyone in a final but we could also go 2 up and get beat.


9.) 19 Feb 2018 09:58:00
You don't get to play like we did against city in the champions league later stages.

It's very tactical. Not open and all guns blazing, fast sweeping football.

You need to get your foot on the ball and start little 5 yard passes to take the sting out of the game or draw the opposition onto you and our team just cannot do that.


10.) 19 Feb 2018 09:58:00
You don't get to play like we did against city in the champions league later stages.

It's very tactical. Not open and all guns blazing, fast sweeping football.

You need to get your foot on the ball and start little 5 yard passes to take the sting out of the game or draw the opposition onto you and our team just cannot do that.


11.) 19 Feb 2018 10:41:33
We have a high high class defender in Vvd. We have some high class cms, Hendo for one. If our forward line we're the only high class part of lfc it would have been 5 4 not 5 0.


12.) 19 Feb 2018 10:52:07
I can help but feel we will be over runned in midfield if we meet big guns . Imagine Coutinho, Iniesta, Busquet vs Hendo Milner Can. They will literally walk through our midfield. Or if RM Casemiro, Modric, Kroos vs Wij, Ox, Can.


13.) 19 Feb 2018 13:51:54
Don't write our midfield off too easily. It's not a four man, game dominating midfield it is a dynamic protection for the back four, that quickly passes the ball onto the forwards.

In the games against the top boys I expect firmino to drop deep and help out if our boys get over run.


14.) 19 Feb 2018 17:27:16
I think a reality check is needed. This is our first season back in the CL did years and we have played Moscow, Seville and Porto. Which one of those teams are serious CL contenders? Which one of those teams would give Real, PSG or Barcelona any real trouble? Get real guys. Yes we may eventually do well, but you cannot seriously use what we’ve seen as a barometer of success against the very best. I suggest we focus on getting 3 points against West Ham abd Newcastle first.


 

 

30 Jan 2018 20:56:22
Underwhelming but leading comfortably. Won't count my eggs yet though. However observation I've made. Is there something going in Manes head in regards to his effort he looks very lacklustre I'm hoping it's just rust and not something deeper. Also I think in these games where the opposition sita back would we be better playing 2 ish at the back and ox or taa on the right and moreno/ Robertson on the left to stretch the pitch because salah and mane don't seem to recognize how staying wide create space. Sorry for the rant guys.

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{Ed0333's Note - I’ve been worried about Mane for a while now. He’s had enough time to play his back into form so I’m hoping it’s not a legacy of his injuries. He really looks like he’s lost a bit of pace and he’s not even half the player he was. I truly hope I’m wrong and he recaptures his form and become the player we all love and revere because when he turns it on he’s unplayable.


1.) 30 Jan 2018 21:06:47
No need to change what's working I guess, would rather win tamely than dominate like against Swansea and lose/ draw.

{Ed0333's Note - absolutely.


2.) 30 Jan 2018 21:12:29
So not a case of mentality? He is definately a shadow of last season but I won't bash him. unless he has got coutinho aspirations.


3.) 30 Jan 2018 21:10:18
Totally agree Ed
I can't remember the last tome Mane beat someone with his pace definitely lost a yard.

{Ed0333's Note - manes demise is a real shame Wonker because the guy is mesmeric on his day. I really want him to come back firing on all cylinders because he’s meant to be a nice guy, does loads for charity etc etc. Hopefully he just needs a great game under his belt to be a catalyst


4.) 30 Jan 2018 21:25:51
Me too he was immense last season.


5.) 30 Jan 2018 21:57:34
I personally think with mane it's a confidence thing. I think he may feel like he has been demoted by salah from what was clearly his favoured position.
Hopefully once his mate shows up he'll get a wee burst of life back in him.


6.) 30 Jan 2018 21:59:19
Mane's most successful way of taking players on is give and go's. On the right side last season most of this was give and go's that played him in wide. On the left he seems more reluctant to do this and tends to play give and go's inside rather than outside. He is now tending to do this less and less as it's just too congested against teams that sit back. Why he's not confident to go wide? I don't know but he definitely plays in a different way from the left. Just my observations.

{Ed0333's Note - there’s been plenty of instances where he’s been playing on the left and had the opportunity to outpace an opposition player regardless of the scenario and he hasn’t done it.


7.) 30 Jan 2018 22:07:22
Think he'll be fine, he was playing quite well before the Moscow game and the Everton game seems to affected his play a bit.

He's still trying, just needs a bit of time and a good game and I'm sure he'll be raring to go.


8.) 30 Jan 2018 22:20:24
I think he should have a go on the right again - mix it up a bit, let him gas people on his stronger side - Salah will be fine on the left.


9.) 30 Jan 2018 22:25:07
Do you think manes dip in form has anything to do with mo being our main man so far this season. I mean last season mane was outstanding and it all seemed to be a about to him but this season so far we have Bobby playing superb, Phil was excellent and of course salah has so far been a sensation.

It might just be nothing but I get the feeling that mane wants to be the main man and maybe he just hasn't adjusted to playing in a team of many so called super stars. I'm probably over thinking things as my mind tends to wander. Oh look a pigeon.


10.) 30 Jan 2018 22:25:41
Let's just hope that whatever it is, he finds his way back soon. We need him if we are to do anything this season. 😃.


11.) 30 Jan 2018 22:29:48
So perhaps it's just a simple case that he feels less confident in beating an opponent on the left side. He's predominantly right footed so his touch to take a player on is with his right. It's easier from the right side to do this and gain that half a yard and then Mane uses his body to cut across brilliantly. On the left it's different.

He would need to shift it with his left which he doesn't do. So to shift it with your right doesn't gain you that half yard and doesn't give you a chance to get your body across an opponent. Salah tends to do the same. His movement is different to Mane's of last season. Still effective but it's starting to be predictable. I'd like to see a bit of rotation of the 3 up top. He did it with Salah and Firmno tonight. Perhaps Mane could be switched at times too.


12.) 30 Jan 2018 23:41:49
Mane has played on the left through out his career at Metz, Red Bull Salzburg and Saints. Only at LFC has he played on the right. Also, the last two worldies he has scored despite his sticky patch have been with his left foot so to me, that is not the issue. The injury to his hamstrings may have had a negative mental effect on him so he may be tentative to drive on those hamstring and accelerate at full pelt. Also, he seems to be forcing things and this is leading to a lot of technical lapses in his game right now.

The good thing is tho, that he is still scoring goals, assisting and getting into good positions to score like he did at Hudd so not too bothered cos even on a bad day, he is still a threat and that to me, is the most important thing as not many players are like that. We just have to support him all the way right now cos he is class, pure and simple. And to those saying he needs a kick up the backside, take a day off cos such useless comments do not help him right now.


13.) 31 Jan 2018 07:56:57
I haven't read the whole thread, and only read what the eds have written, but regarding Mane, didn't he have a dodgy second season when at Southampton, but then found his form again.


14.) 31 Jan 2018 13:44:48
Injuries can play on the mind a little while ( studhe being a good example of that) hamstring injuries ( I’ve had dozens) in my mind are the worst. Takes ages to Build the confidence to sprint full pelt he’ be fine by next season.


 

 

12 Jan 2018 09:19:47
Surely no club in their right mind would be willing to pay the reported 30million for sturridge. Are we pricing him out of a move? Bad enough his wages are so high surely to get him off the wage bill we will have to sell him for much cheaper than 30.maybe even 15.

FatboyFatNotSlim

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would pay that, and then some more to have him arrive before the weekend.}


1.) 12 Jan 2018 10:10:49
Naby Keita. Wink wink.


2.) 12 Jan 2018 10:14:21
Lets just hope he doesn't move to southampton, because god only knows how much we'll be buying him back for season after next.


3.) 12 Jan 2018 11:16:58
Oo Ed2.
Possibly the only reason I come on here now it to decipher your cryptic sarcastic Notes. I like it.
But it'll be pointless him coming now as he has to be registered by this afternoon?


4.) 12 Jan 2018 09:40:27
Lmao ed. Nice one.


5.) 12 Jan 2018 10:20:16
Is that that your way of telling us Ed that we might pay that to get Keita early 😳.


6.) 12 Jan 2018 12:42:55
I actually think Sturridge could still do a very good job for someone in the PL

I don't think his body can cope with our training methods which are required to play a high-tempo pressing game.

Put him in a side where everyone drops off, gets tight and compact and he doesn't have to do loads of chasing and I think it will both improve his chances of playing and scoring, and extend his career.


7.) 12 Jan 2018 14:04:46
Liverpool have agreed to pay 75 million euros for Keita. Straight from his agents mouth.


 

 

10 Jan 2018 20:25:23
Evening eds. Any update on Salads fitness for citeh at the weekend. We need to focus on avenging the hammering they gave us!

FatboyFatNotSlim

{Ed001's Note - personally speaking I always avoid the salad as its fitness benefits are very overrated.}


1.) 10 Jan 2018 20:48:53
Boom Ed😁.

{Ed001's Note - sorry I have been around Ed025 too long and it is ruining my ability to tell a gag. Please don't ask him to tell his latest one that we had to endure on the editors' widget or I fear we will lose half our readership in disgust at just how bad it is!}


2.) 10 Jan 2018 21:09:08
Spinach is very good for you 🤝.

{Ed001's Note - didn't do much for Olive Oyl.}


3.) 10 Jan 2018 21:16:49
loving sun dried tomatoes these days on my Salahd.


4.) 10 Jan 2018 21:25:57
Salah trained today.


5.) 10 Jan 2018 21:21:47
Who is Salad?

{Ed025's Note - its just a side issue..


6.) 10 Jan 2018 21:41:19
Salad is lovely. Varnish it with a bit of bacon and chicken, and boom.


7.) 10 Jan 2018 21:44:13
Next to old bacon face, Ed?


8.) 10 Jan 2018 22:42:11
lmfao!


9.) 10 Jan 2018 23:31:14
How do you “varnish” a salad?

Certainly not with a chicken, feathers everywhere 😄.


10.) 10 Jan 2018 22:31:43
I'll bite, Ed025 what's the joke you put on the editions widget?

{Ed025's Note - .: in barbados a steak and kidney pie costs $3.50....in antigua a pork pie costs $ 2.85 and an apple pie $1.75...in st kitts and nevis a blueberry pie will cost you £3.10 while a steak slice comes in at $4.20....in barbuda a cherry pie costs $3.75 while in jamaica the same one comes in at $2.95.....and that my friends...is the PIE RATES OF THE CARRIBEAN...lol


11.) 11 Jan 2018 08:22:58
Your the man Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - cheers mark..


12.) 11 Jan 2018 11:47:34
Right Ed1, first sorry for asking when you said not to, second, I'll see you all in therapy.

{Ed001's Note - no worries.}


 

 

08 Jan 2018 19:16:17
Anyone else watching the draw. We have west Brom btw. But why does Wisey look like he wants to wet himself laughing.

FatboyFatNotSlim

{Ed002's Note - I didn’t think his arms would be long enough to reach the balls at the bottom.}


1.) 08 Jan 2018 19:32:55
Snoop Rio couldn’t control himself.


2.) 08 Jan 2018 19:41:59
Hahahhaa @balls at the bottom. what a dirty mind.


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2018 08:08:06
Won't slate him if we sign him but if we do i won't have high hopes. Watched him play this season and he is not the vast improvement we need in goal. For the life of me i don't understand Klopps so called insistence in wanting him over other keepers who may be avaliable this summer. I get he is a cheaper option but I'd much rather us spend 70 million to have someone in goal who may not have 50 clean sheets a season but when called upon you know he is able to not fluff up. Navas is not that keeper.

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01 Feb 2018 07:39:43
Here's hoping a solid half season sees teams trying to purchase.

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19 Jan 2018 19:30:43
Doubt he will come back. I just hope that if we let him go we put some kind of first option clause in. He may be our Kevin de bruyne and come back in a few years and haunt us.

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19 Jan 2018 19:29:05
But can you imagine Oblak making a mistake which he most certainly will every goal keeper has mistakes in them and he gets slated here as the 100 million goal keeper who made a mistake. Some people will probably expect miracles for that price. I don't but some might.

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17 Jan 2018 13:50:27
In relation to your response ed 2. Mr souness said after the man city game that every transfer has an element of tapping up.

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{Ed002's Note - What is he trying to do - protect the club at the bottom of the pile and the worst offender in Klopp who will look to cheat at every chance he gets - the club already serving a transfer ban who tried ruin the career of a 12 year old boy and drove his parents in to debt and then were allowed to buy there way out of a court case?

It is absolutely pitiful that you want the troll this post and again bring it up. How about the written warnings Liverpool had last season and the complaint that is still onfile with the Premier League - did he mention those?}


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2018 14:29:24
Here's hoping he goes to Madrid because without him they will be properly exposed.

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14 Feb 2018 21:42:04
Wow what a performance and a clean sheet. The tie is definately over. Mane deserved his hat trick.

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11 Feb 2018 17:22:32
It was a sexy back heel. Maybe they can both come off now with Porto in mind. let dom get a run he can score against that defense if given good service.

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09 Feb 2018 10:51:04
I'd like to see solanke start against Southampton as I believe even without firmy we can still be very dangerous going forward. Maybe mane and ox on the wings. as long as we defend properly and the linesman has glasses on I can't see Southampton scoring. As for Porto we must go full strength and get some away goals under our belt. Porto won't be able to handle the anfield effect so as long as we score and win in Portugal we should be ok for a quarter final spot at least. Imagine 7 European results could see us lift the trophy. YNWA.

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05 Feb 2018 18:29:12
Which he without a doubt is doing so. He is giving his all and his numbers don't lie. We need quality players who see us as the pinnacle and not a stepping stone. You only get that kind of mentality from youth players who come right through the ranks to the first team a la trent. Just want us to win a trophy and become the club players want to win trophies at. not too much to ask.

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