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11 Dec 2017 12:56:57
FC Porto on the CL draw. Not bad at all.

This end of the competition there are certainly no easy games but there are some easier than others and Porto falls into that pot.

Long wait until February now for the 1st tie, let's make sure we firm up a league position between now and then over a busy festive period 🤙🏼.


1.) 11 Dec 2017 13:44:38
With you there, NK. Full focus should be on the PL for now ans we are picking up points of late with 17 taken out of 21 since the Spurs disaster. That shows our ability to bounce back and credit to Klopp and his squad for getting it done. A long way to go but there is more hope now than after the Spurs game. An unfortunate draw vs Everton changes none of these facts, all of which are positives.


2.) 11 Dec 2017 14:50:54
I keep forgetting keita is coming next year. what a team we will have.


3.) 11 Dec 2017 15:25:00
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{Ed002's Note - I think you posted this against the wrong thread.}


 

 

14 Oct 2017 14:15:46
Yet more evidence that we are missing a striker.

I know this is an unpopular view on here but it's blindingly obvious. We are not clinical, we lack players with the correct movement in the opposition box and the natural ability to put the ball in the net.

Same performance as we have had for weeks and weeks. Klopp doesn't have the answers. His only response seems to be to chuck on strikers at the 80th minute every week and hope for something.


1.) 14 Oct 2017 14:25:13
I completely agree.

If we had a natural goal scorer like Kane we win that football match and many other games previously this season.


2.) 14 Oct 2017 14:34:25
Completely disagree. Our players know how to put the ball in the net (other than Salah maybe; ball could be set on the goal line and he'd bend it out for a corner) . I have to wonder if our attack producing so many chances makes our players less clinical; when in front of goal they don't make the most of chances cause they know there'll always be another chance. I don't know how else to explain players being so wasteful.


3.) 14 Oct 2017 14:57:51
I agree United were poor and there for the taking but that's 1 win in 9 games now. this is just my opinion tactically i think klopp is brain dead he's got his system and won't change it while mane is out drop courtinho back leave 1 of the CM out and play sturridge or solanke. were the home team and need a win yet we only make subs in the73rd minute are we going to say every week--oh only if we had taken our chances--it weres thin after a while.


4.) 14 Oct 2017 18:31:00
Come on De Gea pulled off a world class save, not many keepers would have saved that.

{Ed025's Note - only one though ron, you were against a side who had no will to win yet achieved very little in the final 3rd mate..


5.) 14 Oct 2017 19:26:07
Point is 25, it wasn't lack of a striker that stifled us. It was a tactical kop out by Jose and a world class keeper got him the draw he didn't deserve.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that it was awful to watch because of uniteds tactics ron, but to be honest you need to create more and certainly be more clinical in front of goal, a decent striker would certainly help because bar for one very good save de gea had a picnic, your midfield trio move the ball too slowly for me as well, too much sideways stuff and not enough vigor i feel mate..you can blame jose as much as you want but its up to liverpool to find a way..


6.) 14 Oct 2017 19:37:49
I agree with Ron here 25. If that had of went in the UTD would have came at us instead of sitting back and this would have created space for our players. I'm not saying we would have went on to win but we would of had more chances.

{Ed025's Note - but it never so you didn,t dom, the world is full of wudda cudda shudda scenario,s mate but in the end liverpool were just not good enough to break down a resolute if exceedingly boring typical jose team..


7.) 14 Oct 2017 20:42:08
Ron we can't continue to blame opposition players and managers every week. Liverpool have a problem in front of goal. It's obvious.

Like 25 days De Gea make a world class save but really it's all he had to do all game. Our shooting is wayward and our midfield play is slow.

We need a forward that can score goals and we need a midfielder that is different to the 3 we have now who are all very similar.

{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way navy..


 

 

01 Oct 2017 19:50:01
This is the team Klopp has built with hundreds of millions of pounds spent.

We have forwards and none are natural finishers. We have only 1 striker who is even close to good enough (Firmino) and that is not enough especially considering he isn't a natural goal scorer.

The defence is laughable and Klopp has made us WEAKER defensively. We're soft, lack concentration, lack leadership; one of the worst organised defences I have ever seen! Klopp has ignored this in his recruitment since joining.

Midfield is full of players all trying to do the same thing and lacks big personalities. They're scared to impose themselves, weak mentally and risk adverse. Klopp tries to fix this with AOC?

Fed up of excuses. The fact remains our weakest areas when Klopp took over are still our weakest areas. Klopp hasn't improved these areas through either recruitment, training or tactics.

Carlo Ancelloti is available and would be an excellent choice to replace Klopp NOW midseason when normally world class managers are hard to secure.

Proven, title winning, champions league veteran manager. Top bloke and actually able to setup a defence which although you'd think would be a given; it isn't!


1.) 01 Oct 2017 20:15:15
Wow. Really? . A flat out call for Klopp to be replaced. Your colours are shown Navy.


2.) 01 Oct 2017 20:27:58
"We have only 1 striker who is even close to good enough (Firmino) and that is not enough especially considering he isn't a natural goal scorer. "

Strikers usually are natural finishers, Firmino is a forward and that's about it.


3.) 01 Oct 2017 20:35:13
You really think Ancelotti would want to come to us at the moment?

I don't see why any top 10-15 managers would want the LFC job at the moment. Premier league is ruthless and we can't compete on the transfer front like Utd, City and Chelsea can.

Think most top managers would rather be patient and wait for those jobs before LFC.

Whats the eds opinion? Given our current reputation in transfer dealings and failure to win anything in a while can you see us attracting 'top' managers still?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware that Liverpool are in the market for "top" or any other managers at this time so the question is moot.}


4.) 01 Oct 2017 21:39:05
Navy, if you think Carlo is the answer then you are fooling yourself. The guy managed to make Bayern complete dross and managed to be successful at making them worse than they were under Pep. You also are aware that Klopp is FSG's 4th manager in 7 years.

Keep that up and keep firing managers just cos the players are struggling to put their chances away and have lost 1 game in 15 in all comps. and fans simply can't find it in their hearts to support a manager who has taken us forward (like it or not, it is a fact) and call me back in a hundred years and let me know if we have won the PL yet.


5.) 01 Oct 2017 23:39:19
I am disappointed with the quality levels of this post. I am of the opinion that your arguments are laughable and you have not addressed their weakness over the summer.
There are other knee-jerkers out there with proven, champion licenses to fly planes - perhaps we should look to bring them over.


6.) 02 Oct 2017 02:39:43
Newcastle set up well, standard Rafa, and we didn't take chances we should have. Not the first time and won't be tha last. We struggle against defensive set ups. Not new and unfortunate we haven't addressed it. Klopp can certainly improve but i feel it is too early to be thinking about a change. We are 2 points off 3rd and a long way to go. Maybe we won't win anything but give it a chance.


7.) 02 Oct 2017 06:57:59
Klopp out here come those fickle fickle fans boring try supporting instead of constantly whinging
Up the pool.


8.) 02 Oct 2017 08:29:13
Andy, Rafa did not do a job on us. Had we taken our chances, Rafa would be getting the crap beaten out of him for Klopp destroying his parked bus. He is undefeated vs LFC BUT is yet to win a game vs us as all 5 games have been draws. That sounds familiar, doesn't it? That is the exact way he bottled the PL by getting a whopping 11 draws that season. Sorry, not convinced with him and he has not changed with his negative tactics. Newcastle are welcome to him.


9.) 02 Oct 2017 11:38:50
Bingo, all i said was that Newcastle set up well, typical Rafa. We scored 1 goal and to suggest that Newcastle didn't contribute to our difficulties is unfair in my eyes. I completely agree in regards to Rafa costing us points due to not conceeding being more important to him than attacking football. I never said they did a number on us and i mentioned about our missed chances so ease down, mate.


10.) 02 Oct 2017 12:48:40
Fair enough, Andy.


 

 

19 Sep 2017 22:13:11
I'm afraid I have to disagree.

We have been poor for since the City game. Confidence is very low and the performances are reflecting it.

Unfortunately JK hasn't built a team that have any leaders or players with fire in their bellies who you would normally look to, to turn it around.

He's bought some good forwards in Mane and Salah but he has still 2 years on not solved our issues and for that only he is accountable. This is HIS squad.

Soft and a lack of belief. The England boys out there epitomised this today. Henderson and AOC were so poor.


1.) 19 Sep 2017 22:51:47
Key word being soft.


2.) 19 Sep 2017 23:17:40
I've said that too. It really has affected us from the euphoria of the Arsenal game to the agony of the City game and we just haven't recovered.


3.) 20 Sep 2017 00:07:37
Henderson was very soft tonight, like him as a player but he's just not captain material. We need nasty s##ts who will get in everyone's face and demand more of them. there's not one leader/ winner within all of our squad. Worrying stuff.


 

 

19 Sep 2017 21:25:57
Feel sorry for Danny Ward.

He's looked confident, good with his feet and made a few saves but absolutely nothing he can do about the goals.

Totally let down by the defence and midfield (again! )

Heading out of the cup on the first round (again! ) and not sure where we go from here. This is the team Klopp has built and it is lightweight, soft centred, lacks leadership and is unable to defend!


1.) 19 Sep 2017 21:29:22
Couldn't agree more.


2.) 19 Sep 2017 21:32:39
3rd round 😉.


3.) 19 Sep 2017 21:36:28
No leaders anywhere on the park. Taking Couts off so early gave them hope. Poor game management today. No respect for Leicester. Poor defence. Average midfield.


4.) 19 Sep 2017 21:46:46
Get a grip. I've never been less bothered about losing a game. Saturday is all that matters.


5.) 19 Sep 2017 21:49:19
Very very very lightweight. only positives Robertson. And ings coming back in. I don't give a fcuk what anyone says we are great at attacking but we just ain't got anyone to Finnish it off like lukaku. aguero. Jesus. Kane. alli. firmino is awesome BUTTTT is not a striker. sturridge pace has gone completely. my only hope is ings can stay fit cause this boy is a goal scorer and doesn't stop working. Danny ward is our no1 surely klopp can see the other 2 boys are struggling big time with confidence.


6.) 19 Sep 2017 21:39:17
Even after this defeat Ward has done enough for me tonight to think he should be our first choice keeper.


7.) 19 Sep 2017 22:05:19
Jimblelfc, give it a rest, ok? With the team we put out, you have to have known that we could lose the game, right? If you wanna moan, have at it BUT enough with the digs as it is not warranted.


8.) 19 Sep 2017 22:27:59
Jayden, Ward has only played one game so not annoiting him yet. He and Karius are better than Migs, that much is clear.


9.) 19 Sep 2017 22:32:45
Bingo how am I smearing him. I've just said he did enough to be the no 1 in my eyes.


 

 

 

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28 Aug 2017 18:07:16
I'm almost certain it's "Time moving slowly" - how the next few days will go! 😂.


 

 

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25 Aug 2017 15:15:50
" If Liverpool do want to explore a loan for him, they should be looking to approaching Bayern Munich directly in the first instance - notifying his agent they are doing so. "

That's not the way we do things Ed! 🙃.


 

 

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16 Aug 2017 12:57:10
Thanks as always for your insight Macca, hope you're well mate 👍🏼.


 

 

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11 Aug 2017 22:14:17
Problem is "redforever" nobody will sell us their best players as its too late in the window - same reason we don't want to sell Couts.

Everyone keeps saying 'replace him' - with who? It's been made clear that Navy K isn't for sale sadly.

No, it's too late in the window I'm afraid. I think an agreement to let him leave next summer is more than fair.


 

 

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11 Aug 2017 16:29:16
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02 Nov 2017 14:37:10
Don't think Pedro Obiang is the answer to improving us into a title winning side.

Not good enough for me and would be another Robertson, Klavan, Matip style signing of a stop-gap.

{Ed002's Note - Obiang won't be moving to LFC.}


 

 

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14 Oct 2017 20:42:08
Ron we can't continue to blame opposition players and managers every week. Liverpool have a problem in front of goal. It's obvious.

Like 25 days De Gea make a world class save but really it's all he had to do all game. Our shooting is wayward and our midfield play is slow.

We need a forward that can score goals and we need a midfielder that is different to the 3 we have now who are all very similar.

{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way navy..


 

 

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02 Oct 2017 20:25:55
Oh Ed, you don't need defensive midfielders, Liverpool have shown us all that!


 

 

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24 Sep 2017 20:11:01
"Infact there should be a movement if migs starts the game fans should walk out of match. Will help klopp phasing him out ASAP. "

Perhaps we should fly a banner from a plane too?

We're better than this akshit please.


 

 

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19 Sep 2017 21:36:36
They don't have any heart.

They don't defend as a team and there is no leadership. This leads to chaos at the back and us shipping goal after goal.