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05 Jun 2018 21:29:17
Moses Simon? Apparently interested at £10 million.

Anyone know of true?


1.) 05 Jun 2018 21:36:40
Is he any good Ed?

{Ed002's Note - At what?}

2.) 05 Jun 2018 21:37:16
You just bet me to it mate. Well Macca nor the Ed's have ever mentioned his name so I doubt it.

3.) 05 Jun 2018 21:53:13
I stand corrected.

4.) 05 Jun 2018 21:54:41
Parting the Red Sea ED002 what else?

{Ed002's Note - I doubt he is an RSP.}

5.) 06 Jun 2018 05:57:13
28 Apr 2015 18:00:14
I think his name is Simon Moses. Fast young winger. He plays in Belgian league now for Gent. I saw him also in some matches in Slovakian League. He was better than the rest. I remember also Matic and Skrtel in this league who were very good as well. But with all respect to our league it means nothing. He is young with potential but I don't see reason to buy him, it is better to keep Sterling, Ibe, Markovic and let them play. We need top class players ready into first team and give more time on the pitch for players from academy. He is good and has future but needs time and I do not think he is what we need right now.

{Ed002's Note - This is one I can help with. Gent's Moses Simon has attracted the declared interest of PSV, Apolonia Fier, Spurs, Ajax, Maccabi Tel Aviv and Fenerbahce and has apparently been watched by Viking, Liverpool, Reading, Midtjylland, Arsenal and probably others. }.

6.) 06 Jun 2018 06:36:28
Seen him loads. Great player. Think him of a hybrid of simon mignolet and victor moses. Unreal.

{Ed001's Note - so long as he has Mignolet's nose, I am in!}



30 May 2018 20:33:54
Reports in France say we have made official bid for Fekir of 53 million.

Don't know if it's true.


1.) 30 May 2018 21:04:08
According to Le Parisien, Liverpool's bid for the 24-year-old is said to be €60m (£52.6m) and is thought to be under consideration from the Ligue 1 club.

Any truth in this eds?

{Ed025's Note - its no secret that liverpool want him and that talks are taking place shayan but the details are basically guesses mate..

2.) 30 May 2018 21:22:31
Well then get it sorted ed25 ☺️☺️☺️.

{Ed025's Note - im trying my best ace..

3.) 30 May 2018 21:22:52
Thank you ed. I didn’t know that talks were taking place. All I remember is ed002 saying that he expects us to make a formal approach.

4.) 30 May 2018 21:32:37
If it was Ian ayre doing the negotiations I would be worried but nowadays apart from the mistakes of tapping up we seem to be doing so much better .

5.) 30 May 2018 21:29:52
Alright Ed25 we will stop disturbing you, go get that deal over the line.

{Ed025's Note - im trying to scupper it alonso.. :)

6.) 30 May 2018 21:44:20
Whats you're opinion on Fekir's ability Ed025? Sorry in advance, if you have already gave it and i have missed it.

{Ed025's Note - i think hes very talented coco, there seems to be a bit of doubt about his temperament but i think hes a good buy myself mate..

7.) 30 May 2018 21:57:49
And we have the klopp factor also. He tends to bring the best out of players. not every player though. But if fekir is good enough for the French squad ahead of players I assumed were dead set for Russia then I would rate him highly.

8.) 30 May 2018 21:54:08
Thanks Ed025, much appreciated. Everything I've heard seems positive and few times I've watched him he looked a talent.

9.) 30 May 2018 22:06:13
So ed 25 you think this deal has legs then and will happen . Hope he’s not another payet.

{Ed025's Note - i do expect it to happen Dhfc its just haggling over the price mate..

10.) 31 May 2018 08:54:43
As long as we have behaved ourselves, I’ll be happy. At least klopp hasn’t come out tapping up the lad yet, so that’s a start.

11.) 31 May 2018 09:53:39
Euros or sterling? Lol.



19 May 2018 22:37:11
Reports from France saying Fekir is 99% completed and a 62 million deal has been agreed.

Not saying I believe this just what I've read.


1.) 19 May 2018 22:50:00
I’d be happy with that. Could be a really top signing.

2.) 19 May 2018 22:52:13
Yes please.

3.) 19 May 2018 22:53:05
But I doubt we will be doing any transfers before the final in case it makes anyone unsettled. Perhaps after the final something may be done.

4.) 19 May 2018 23:19:34
or maybe Michael Edwards is making the deal happen while Klopp is focused in the champions league final?

5.) 19 May 2018 23:26:21
I'm sure negotiations, and agent discussions, are taking place right now but official announcements concerning signings will be made after the Champions League final. Otherwise, targets may be snapped up before we can even sound out their interest in joining us.

Fingers crossed Fekir does sign because he is an outstanding talent. I know he is used to play in offensive positions but I honestly think he can occupy the same position Coutinho did when he played midfield for us. The boy has all the qualities to play such a position, only thing that concerns me is his injury record. But hopefully he is over the worst of it.

6.) 19 May 2018 23:30:31
Nah. Nothings done yet.

7.) 20 May 2018 02:06:44
Pretty sure the deal is done. Most reliable French outlets and journalists saying the same and providing the same specific details of the deal.
LFC are obviously keeping the deal under wraps till after the UCL final. Klopp does not need any distractions right now.

8.) 20 May 2018 02:17:39
Hope to god he joins, would be such a great pick up!

9.) 20 May 2018 02:24:03
This proves what Macca said last summer. He said the club was looking at a French international, but it is someone that no one is thinking of. Everyone kept saying Lemar and Griezman. He did message the name to one of the the Eds can any of them confirm this was the name he messaged you.

10.) 20 May 2018 05:12:34
Let's not start that one again, Harry. I believe that's a cold case.

11.) 20 May 2018 08:27:12
HarryTheRED- it was Griezmann that Macca said we were after not Fekir and it was in January.

12.) 20 May 2018 09:32:42
Won't believe it unless the eds say that it is true.

13.) 20 May 2018 09:43:26
One thing I've learnt over the past god knows how many years is to not get excited about a transfer until it's done. Things can change so quickly, these days I just like to wait and see what happens and hope for the best because every time I get excited about a player potentially joining it never bloody happens!

So I'm thinking right now, Fekir isn't signing for us, if he does, it's a pleasant surprise.

14.) 20 May 2018 15:26:13
The majority of the time a player doesn't sign it's because it was never happening in the first place. The press need to make money, so they spout any old garbage on a regular basis.
It's amazing how many people still believe nearly everything they read about transfer happenings.



19 May 2018 08:24:15
Is the Ricardo Pereira Leicester are about to buy the one we were linked with last season?


1.) 19 May 2018 08:42:42
Yes it is.

2.) 19 May 2018 13:02:02
He's good. Very versatile as can play on either fullback or wing position. Would've liked him at Liverpool but he'd be a starter and I think we need to let TAA and Gomez continue to develop by getting plenty of game time.

3.) 19 May 2018 18:01:11
strange, I thought we wanted to sign him how come he's going to them.

4.) 19 May 2018 22:13:08
I watched the Lyon v Nice game this evening. Nabil Fekir limped off injured towards the end of the game.
He showed a few glimpses of class but looked like his mind was elsewhere. Whether it be the World Cup or an impending transfer, who knows.
The French League is well, off the pace of the Prem, but I'm sure he would adapt, if he does chose a move to the Prem. ( hopefully with us )



16 May 2018 19:16:35
Can anyone shed any light on reports that we have registered our interest with Milan for Donnarumma?


1.) 16 May 2018 20:13:08
Never going to happen and to be honest I'm glad about it, he's an idiot. Young and dumb spring to mind, he's one to stay away from, he hasn't the right mentality to be at a club like ours.




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16 Jun 2018 11:49:35
Gelson Martins for a knock down fee due to issues at the club, could be a good deal. Never seen him play any good?


1.) 16 Jun 2018 12:11:55
Electric pace, assists, scores, would be ideal, if we were supposedly after dembele I would jib him right off an go after gelson Martins.

2.) 16 Jun 2018 13:46:24
Why are any of these high quality, highly sort after players going to move to us to sit on the bench?

3.) 16 Jun 2018 15:13:29
Squad rotation, Tottenham have Lucas moura on the bench, Chelsea have Pedro, man utd have rashford also on bench, it's called having a squad an building towards having as much quality as possible we need this . What if mane or Salah get injured, we need better options!

4.) 16 Jun 2018 16:35:56
How do you know he sits on the bench, honestly can you actually see the future? Maybe these players come and play great and they start and one of the current starters loses his place, we won’t know until these guys join and we see how the season pans out.



07 Jun 2018 21:35:32
Turning out to be an excellent window already. Keita, Fabinho and now Fekir seems likely Lallana will move but who knows where. Can't see Tottenham being interested and I doubt he'd move to a Bournemouth, Fulham type club.


1.) 07 Jun 2018 21:47:37
Milner will also move out! It’s a full overhaul in the middle and it’s the Nab and Fab show.

2.) 07 Jun 2018 22:09:54
Nilner will only leave if he really wants to. He's too valuable to us to push out.

3.) 07 Jun 2018 22:10:37
I don't see Milner going, I mean I hope not anyway. Lallana doesn't want to be at the club, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's out the door soon.

4.) 07 Jun 2018 22:13:30
Hope Milner stays tbh, will do as cover off the bench.

5.) 07 Jun 2018 22:19:54
Milner won’t be going anywhere.

6.) 07 Jun 2018 22:22:57
Milner one more year then he’ll end his career at Leeds Utd.

7.) 07 Jun 2018 23:07:07
And the ox to come back aswell don't forget. milner wants game time more than money i read and he just wants to play week in week out don't be surprised if he leaves if he does i wish the ld all the best and thank him for his service a true professional.

8.) 08 Jun 2018 01:16:58
Did I miss something? Why does Lallana not want to be at the club anymnore? When did this happen? I was aware that he might be sold, but this is new info.



04 Jun 2018 19:49:31
Pretty shocking to read that Karius was in fact concussed in the CL final after Ramos's elbow. Out of 30 tests he tested positive in 26 of them as being concussed.

Even worse is that UEFA have not done anything at all about the incident. Really hope the guy can bounce back, thought he was really improving leading upto the final.

I wouldn't say sell him at all.


{Ed0333's Note - wow that’s an astounding revelation. Maybe Simon Mignolet should be tested aswell concussion for the last 5 years seems plausible to me.

1.) 04 Jun 2018 20:00:01
He was lucid enough to do other things and continue playing. Has he been concussed all season?

{Ed025's Note - i must have missed the blow that seen firmino, milner and henderson concussed into stagnation..

2.) 04 Jun 2018 20:05:30
So what should UEFA do? If he had any concussion during the match, He shouldn’t have continued! I am not sure if he was physically ill before the match? Why blame UEFA for conceding 3 goals?

{Ed025's Note - as far as i know he was not ill harry....well the press reports said that he had not caught anything on the night.. :)

3.) 04 Jun 2018 20:11:57
I certainly wasn’t blaming UEFA for the goals, but retrospective action should have been taken in my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - yes jonesy.... on the team sheet it had karius down as a keeper, which is a serious case of fraud in my book mate..

4.) 04 Jun 2018 20:18:13
Concussion is no joke. It's more than just a headache. If that's true about karius then he should be cut some slack as it's a very serious brain trauma and can cause a large array of visual and mental symptoms.

{Ed025's Note - your right nevada, lets make him player of the year and guarantee his place in the starting line up for all of next season..

5.) 04 Jun 2018 20:20:27
It's in the past now. Let's just forget about it. No need to be looking for excuses.

{Ed025's Note - exactly max..

6.) 04 Jun 2018 20:23:56
Ramos now had two fouls that he should have been sanctioned for. Maybe UEFA should spend a little less time living it up and pocketing bribes, and a little more time paying attention to the actualities of the games that are played under their control. Seems assaults on players are now permitted in European competitions.

{Ed025's Note - come on guys you have to stop with all these petty excuses, you were beaten by the better side on the night so just leave it at that and move on..

7.) 04 Jun 2018 20:25:14
The real fraud was suggesting Ramos was a footballer.

{Ed025's Note - the history books will say different mate..

8.) 04 Jun 2018 20:26:50
Ed25 and 33 killing it! 😂😂😂😂😂.

9.) 04 Jun 2018 20:27:45
Absolutely. Stop looking for excuses. I am worried if the club want to take the fans to their side by this story as they are not buying a top class keeper. Could be!

10.) 04 Jun 2018 20:27:56
If Karius was concussed then he should signalled to the bench or thr ref to stop the game and get Mignolet on. He didnt! The rest is history.

{Ed025's Note - i thought i seen him waving to the bench when bale hit that speculative shot from 40 yards irish...well his arms were flapping..

11.) 04 Jun 2018 20:30:33
It is very serious - concussion.

If he is concussed so easily it begs the question about whether he should retire to be honest. Other sportsmen have done it and he will be wealthy enough and young enough to change careers.

If I was in his shoes, I’d quit. Life is too short.
Sending my support to Karius, wish him well and hopes he gets the right advice about his future 🤝.

12.) 04 Jun 2018 20:36:43
If we had won that match 4-3, no body would utter a word of concussion. 😂😂😂 damn those tinted glass!

13.) 04 Jun 2018 20:38:06
Often Irish, the person concussed is not the first person to realise, they’re usually the last 🤝.

{Ed025's Note - can of worms that ron...everton players will be claiming they got punched in every game last season now..

14.) 04 Jun 2018 20:39:11
And why should mild concussion mean he should quit? I’m not sure there’s any logic to that mate.

15.) 04 Jun 2018 20:41:13
The result is history, but if the effects of concussion are still detectable on Karius then he should think about retirement.

{Ed025's Note - im sure all liverpool fans think the same ron..

16.) 04 Jun 2018 20:41:33
UEFA can't really be expected to do anything when the player got back up, no one noticed the head injury in real time and thus he wasn't assessed.

I'm surprised if he was still testing for it 9 days after that he wasn't more obviously dazed.

{Ed025's Note - fazed i think you mean SR..

17.) 04 Jun 2018 20:48:39
The game is over.
We lost.
End of story.
No excuses.
I’ve watched the incident several times over and, personally speaking, I don’t think Ramos did it intentionally.
Stop with the “poor us” thing. Man up and take it.

{Ed025's Note - im with you tris..

18.) 04 Jun 2018 20:48:59
Only a dinosaur would laugh off the effects a concussion would have on someone.

{Ed025's Note - if it were true and not sheer fabrication made by an inept keeper who is making pathetic excuses for the worst performance in CL history...then i would agree dexter..

19.) 04 Jun 2018 20:59:42
I think more of this is being made of than is the case. I hope I’m not wrong. I also this isn’t a means of justifying keeping him as no 1 goalie. I don’t mind him staying but we need a better starter.
Anyway, mild concussion is ususally not problematic and people generally make a full recovery after a short time. Blows to the head are quite common, for example repetitive heading of the ball, tackling in rugby or boxing. Generally in other sports where contact is far more aggressive effects do not require removal from the game. Of course over many years repeated hits can be a problem but in Karius case he should hopefully make a full recovery.
As was mentioned if there was cause for concern it could/ should have been dealt with immediately.

{Ed025's Note - spot on razor mate..

20.) 04 Jun 2018 21:10:42
Thanks Ed25 . of course evertonians are an exception as for them there’s no such thing as brain injury 😏.

{Ed025's Note - whoever appointed allardyce should see that brain specialist razor..

21.) 04 Jun 2018 21:19:30
I hate to say but I called it. Said something like "Madrid have modric Kroos Ronaldo Bale and benzema who can all score easily from outside the box and I don't trust our keeper, he has improved blah blah blah"

22.) 04 Jun 2018 21:19:06
Lads it's gone we weren't good enough on the night to beat Real let it go. Let's just be proud of our progression and how well our team did last season and by the way things seem to be shaping up let's look forward to some exciting times ahead! We have a very good manager who has us playing exciting expansive football, we have a very good starting 11 with one of the most potent attacks in world football and just look at the players we have added and are trying to sign! We are on the up, there will be plenty more chances for glory!

23.) 04 Jun 2018 21:23:10
Ed25 I think you’ll be a lot happier this season. No higher up the table mind, but a lot happier.

{Ed025's Note - im not expecting miracles razor, but i do want a bit of entertainment mate...unlike last season..

24.) 04 Jun 2018 21:33:33
I agree with the opinions expressed here about concussions but I find it very strange that the story has come out now. The concussions and the tests happened over a week ago. Very strange, and in fact very convenient, if it turns out that we will not be able to get any of our top GK targets (Alisson, Oblak, Cilissen) and we'll have to settle for Butland (which may have been the objective all along) . Really appears to be a public relations exercise by the club to soften public dismay in case Butland is the only GK signed and Karius is kept.

{Ed025's Note - if thats true im going to make my famous liverpool soup tomorrow ArAy......i start with a laughing stock..

25.) 04 Jun 2018 21:44:18
ArAy that’s what I’m worried about.

26.) 04 Jun 2018 21:49:04
Razor, you use the example of rugby. Professional rugby players have quit because of repeated blows to the head causing concussion. 🤝.

27.) 04 Jun 2018 21:54:13
I don’t think anyone is going on about the result we know what happened. It’s more the fact the injury he sustained during the game that is what the conversation is.

{Ed025's Note - alleged injury you mean jonesy..

28.) 04 Jun 2018 21:55:13
Martin Skrtel had 13 stitches on his head during a match recently and played like a warrior and was voted the player of the match! Hugo Lloris had a collision and played through out with a bandage and I remember he had steller! Stop making excuses! We lost! Move on.

29.) 04 Jun 2018 22:12:50
I understand that people don't know how serious concussion is because it's not very well publicised.

But don't dismiss it. I'm not making excuses for karius at all, it was a shaky performance even before his errors. But for people to treat that condition so dismissively is shocking.

Untreated concussion causes (amongst others) visual impairment, delusions (auditory and visual) disorientation, psychosis, aggression, vomiting, and in a whopping 53% of cases violent suicide.

It is not something to be dismissed

I'm not saying karius should get player of the season Ed what I'm saying is he should not be villain of the century (if the concussion diagnosis is correct) . If people are mocking the condition I suggest they read up on it.

You wanna say he's a rubbish keeper, he is. But don't dismiss a serious medical condition. If he'd broken his leg and carried on nobody would be giving him shit, I don't see how this is any different.

30.) 04 Jun 2018 22:16:24
Harry no-one is making excuses. We know we lost 🤝.

31.) 04 Jun 2018 22:22:43
Ron if you read my post I spoke about the difference between a single and repeated blows especially if the single blow causes mild concussion. From what is being said this is certainly no reason for him to consider quitting. There are also boxers who make a living of getting pounded on the head who don’t have problems. My point is that according to what's been written there’s been an overreaction. If Karius has a visuo spatial problem then it wouldn’t be selective. He wouldn’t be able to do things like take a goal kick or walk over and make gestures to the crowd while apologising. I think we should just move on with the whole thing. Now he will have to answer questions about his mistakes and the concussion.

32.) 04 Jun 2018 22:19:31
Razor comparing a header to concussion is like comparing a step in tackle to a leg break.

They're not even close to the same thing. If karius didn't have concussion then the discussion is moot but a concussion is not trivial. I've seen the brain CT scans. I've conducted a few myself. It is true that people recover but it's not quick and usually takes a couple of months and concussions are cumulative too, more than 3 in a calender year in US sports means you have to take forces medical leave for 5 months.

It's not trivial.

I'm not saying karius is that bad, I'm not his primary physician, I'm simply saying that people are making a very serious condition seem very trivial.

33.) 04 Jun 2018 22:39:43
Nevada as someone who has done many hundreds of scans, treated many head injuries and operated on many brains I think I understand what consussion is.

34.) 04 Jun 2018 22:53:42
Razor, tapping into your expertease, isn’t it the case that the effect is cumulative?
So a relatively minor blow can have more profound effects after multiple previous blows?
What I’m suggesting is maybe Karius is at that tipping point after multiple previous blows. If it’s still detectable all this time later, is that not a worrying sign?
I’ve no experience of any of this, but just my observations of previous cases. Happy to hear your opinion 🤝.

35.) 04 Jun 2018 23:07:09
Ron yes you can get a cumulative effect but there would be evidence that he had been hit significantly many times before, and he would have likely showed signs or symptoms at some point even prior to the game. The doctors said that it was ‘possible’ his injury could have affected performance. They are being non commital because they can’t be conclusive. It’s difficult to prove when he only made two isolated errors and appeared to be normal otherwise. Nobody is suggesting he didn’t have a head injury. But to suggest this is the reason for conceding the two goals is spurious to say the least.

36.) 05 Jun 2018 00:35:55
Out of curiosity razor what is your profession? In the UK and US a theatre physician does not also conduct CT scans of the brain. That would would be done by a Radiographer who would then be sent to a primary care physician who would then decide whether or not it requires surgery and refer it to a surgeon.

I'm not doubting what you say just curious as to what a massive workload one doctor must have in your country as they are required to do the job of a Radiographer, reporting radiologist, and surgeon all as part of their role. I genuinely feel for that poor over worked physician.

37.) 05 Jun 2018 06:55:24
Former neurosurgeon now ER. No I don’t mean physically put the patient on the bed (although sometimes have to help if a patient is sedsted) but order and interpret them. Anyway enough about me. We should probably get back to the footie.

38.) 05 Jun 2018 07:14:40
Anyway, Karius made at least one really good save from a powerful shot long after the first goal, but before their third. He may have been concussed, but I don’t think it affected the result 🤝.

{Ed025's Note - i had a lot of respect for the guy when he held his hands up and said it was his fault and he messed up ron, that has gone out the window now with this latest load of pony, i think he has been ill advised and has lost all credibility..

39.) 05 Jun 2018 08:17:57
Lets hope all this has a good ending and the team comes back stronger and brings home a few trophies next season.



30 May 2018 15:37:20
With Fulham now back in the prem and with a wealthy owner could you see him looking at some of our high earners who are deemed surplus, but could add experience to their squad?

Players such as Clyne, Sturridge, Lallana or Mignolet even.


1.) 30 May 2018 16:09:08
It'll take a very brave manager to take a risk on Sturridge.

Lallana and Mignolet may prove to be good purchases for the right team. Hopefully Clyne's profile (ex England first choice right back) earns him some demand in the market. He could possibly be a target for a top half team (provided they've not seen much of him lately, lol) .

2.) 30 May 2018 18:52:33
Ed01 has said that Palace may be a good option for Clyne and could possibly take him back or something to that regard.



29 May 2018 18:05:27
Ed's I've seen mentioned that the referee for the final on Saturday hadn't played a minute of Champions League football all season. If this is true how could he be chosen to referee the final?

It really does seem very odd to me.


{Ed001's Note - that is true, but only UEFA can answer why he was chosen.}

1.) 30 May 2018 00:19:32
and why did not Liverpool object, was this ref hand picked?




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21 Jun 2018 21:28:07
The longer he stays the more we pay in wages obviously so makes sense to lower price. I think £5million would attract clubs, same applies to Markovic really.




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18 Jun 2018 19:58:14
Both Sturridge and Markovic are in similar positions in that they are both on good wages and the club want to recoup a lot of the outlay on both. Both will need to reduce wages as well.




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10 Jun 2018 10:10:20
Agree with wolverine. It has nothing to do with the medical it’s been passed no issues, the stumbling block as said above must be fee, structure of payments or something of that ilk.

I personally y think it will still happen, in terms of playerwagessigning on fee, medical etc that is all done from what I can see so it is quite possible the deal could stil be finalised whilst the player is at the World Cup.




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09 Jun 2018 13:41:58
It was nothin to do with medical it’s the negotiation side.




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08 Jun 2018 10:11:19
Something similar happened with Lacazette to Arsenal last season and it was announced hours later.





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09 Jul 2018 22:15:01
Gallagher could be the player that comes out this season.


{Ed025's Note - when you say he is coming out?.. :)



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26 Jun 2018 21:10:39
Ive stopped listening to Aluas and rarely did anyway. Best thing is just to wait til after WC and the player can decide where he wants.

Judging by France, s performNces it won't be long before they’re out.




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26 Jun 2018 17:00:29
We certainly need NO new strikers.


We would be perfectly fine with two of above, and one is definitely Brewster. I’d expect as it is now Ings, Sturridge to definitely leave and I’d say Solanke will be loaned so only leaves a question mark over Origi. Must admit I wish we had him on bench for CL final so we had more options on the day.




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16 Jun 2018 22:54:15
I was reading a club we’re in for Markovic but can’t remember who it was. I’m hoping a club like Fulham with their wealthy owner might be interested in Sturridge or Clyne. Finally Lallana I think he will move and I do think it will be this summer I can’t see how he will get games given our new signings and the possibility of another two arriving.

In addition I’d say Ward, Mignolet, Grujic and Ings will leave.




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14 Jun 2018 17:21:24
Reports now saying we’ve agreed a fee with Roma for him. Doubt it’s true but they’re saying £57 million.