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16 Jan 2019 17:56:30
Telegraph are reporting that Tottenham are interested in Origi, any truth in this?

Jonesred

1.) 16 Jan 2019 18:40:18
I'd find it as unlikely/ foolish. Origi is not better than Llorente. Surely if they were going to go for a loan to cover for Kane's injury, Batshuayi would be a better option?

I know he's not a top calibre forward, but I think he's better than Origi.


2.) 16 Jan 2019 19:31:35
By no means am I saying this is true, just posting what I read, I think Llorente is as good as gone and Batshuay is off to Monaco.


3.) 16 Jan 2019 19:37:09
I despair of posters who give such nonsense even a second’s thought. In what parallel universe would we help out a major competitor by selling/ loaning them one of our players?


4.) 16 Jan 2019 20:39:41
Jonesred - They may reconsider that Llorente transfer out now. It would leave Jannsen as their only striker (and he's a big poo pie), unless they have someone in the academy, but that is a lot of responsibility for a young player, replacing Kane until mid March.

Lucas Moura is injured, Son is on international duty. I can't think who they can play up front if they let Llorente go.

{Ed001's Note - the Asian Nations final is on the 1st Feb, if I remember correctly, so it is only a couple of weeks then Son is back.}


5.) 16 Jan 2019 22:08:15
Who said it would be classed as helping them lol.


6.) 17 Jan 2019 07:53:31
Vary true Ravi, and I don’t see them catching us.


7.) 17 Jan 2019 12:04:55
I would keep Origi personally. For all his negatives and poor form when playing for loan teams away from us, when he's been in a red shirt, he's put the ball in the net on basis decent enough to be at rotation or cover.


 

 

13 Jan 2019 21:12:35
Reports saying Newcastle still attempting to sign Milan's Diego Laxalt, with Milan wanting €12 million for him.

Not sure if it's true but we were interested at one point for him, would we not look to hijack this?

Versatile players too.

Also was there any genuine interest from us in Omur? Never seen him play so wouldn't know how good he is. Reports were reporting fee in region of £14 and £18 million.

If true viable fees for two players we are reportedly interested in.

Is there also any movement on Origi moving? Seems there's interest from both Fulham and Wolves.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - (a) Yes, Liverpool has shown an interest and indeed have watched him again this season after his summer move. (b) You can search and find the answer as far as I know it to be. (c) I don't think there are any plans to sell before the summer.}


1.) 13 Jan 2019 21:49:19
Thanks Ed02 for answering. Especially as you had a lot to contend with last night. Your insight and input is really appreciated by me.


2.) 14 Jan 2019 07:30:29
Very happy to see your reply here. Cheers ed2.


3.) 14 Jan 2019 10:45:54
I really don't think we should go for Laxalt.
To me he is an average winger who can play at LB/ LWB. He isn't great at either IMO.
I know he'd only be cover in both positions but I'd rather have a quality youngster than versatility.

{Ed002's Note - He is not a winger - he is a left sided midfield player who can play elsewhere.}


4.) 14 Jan 2019 14:45:10
Thought he played well at the WC, not seen him play domestic league but 12 mill seems too good to be true.
Nice hair too. 😉.


5.) 14 Jan 2019 17:27:47
Cheers for reply Ed. I have complete trust in Klopp with whoever he signs, Robertson and chamberlain were both slated as bad buys but look at them under Klopp.


 

 

02 Jan 2019 16:43:40
Reading that Newcastle are close to signing Diego Laxalt from Milan to raise funds. Not sure how true this is, but weren't we interested in him?

If this is true can any of the Ed's confirm if we have made any enquiries?

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - I have explained that Liverpool have kept looking at him - I would say that a move to Newcastle seems more than unlikely and perhaps searching or listening to the Sharkopod.}


1.) 02 Jan 2019 21:19:26
Do you expect they sell him this January Ed?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained all of this.}


2.) 03 Jan 2019 01:53:41
If Salah leaves we should get Mbappe if not don't let him leave.


 

 

19 Dec 2018 21:44:26
Reading rangers have made an official offer for Solanke not sure if it's true.

Jonesred

{Ed025's Note - they are desperate for a good forward jonesy...so why they are looking at him is beyond me mate.. :)


1.) 19 Dec 2018 23:24:30
No danger of them looking to the blue side of Liverpool then Ed ;)

{Ed025's Note - they could do a lot worse than take DCL on loan for a couple of months bobby, hes going to be star that young man let me tell you, even oumar niasse would be the best player probably ever to play in the scottish league mate...have you ever watched the SPL?.. :)


2.) 20 Dec 2018 06:50:33
Solanke to rangers is a potential great move. He should play week in week out, he'll be expected to score and if he does it'll do him the world of good. Could be a great loan deal.

{Ed001's Note - not convinced, it means we will end up paying most of his wages, because there is no way they are going to pay the ludicrous amount we agreed to pay him. Personally I think we should look to sell him and get him off the wage bill.}


3.) 20 Dec 2018 07:13:53
Interesting views.

From the little we've seen of him, I think Brewster is a better prospect and fits better with our style of play. It helps that he models himself on Firmino so should slot in more easily.

I think you said, Ed001, a while back that Solanke looked so good, in part, due to the fact that he was so much bigger than others in his age group, and now playing with men has exposed some weaknesses.

I guess, if we don't get an offer, a loan to Rangers would certainly demonstrate one way or another if he can cope with the physical nature of the mens game.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate I stand by that comment, he is not that good technically or mentally. He has a father who is a pain in the arse and very demanding of the club as well. I don't believe he is anywhere near the player the club thought he was and is someone we should just get rid of asap.}


4.) 20 Dec 2018 07:52:24
Any chance the deal could be permanent sir ed?

{Ed001's Note - with his wage demands probably not.}


5.) 20 Dec 2018 06:26:31
Not like you to get carried away Ed lol, you will go and buy a forward now you have money and players like DCL will be forced to forge their careers at other clubs, as is the way with other clubs in the top echelon.

{Ed025's Note - i hope not den, i think DCL needs some playing time and the pressure on top clubs to achieve results is so high that taking chances with youth is frowned upon mate, i believe he is talented and would hope he gets a chance with us but if not hones his game on loan somewhere and returns a more rounded player..


6.) 20 Dec 2018 09:42:30
Ed01, if I remember correctly, Chelsea refused to give in to Solankes greedy wage demands, but Liverpool were happy to pay what he demanded.
I also don't think he will make it at Liverpool, so it would make sense to get his wages off the bill. Why pay ludicrous wages to an unproven talent.

{Ed001's Note - correct mate, Chelsea laughed at his demands.}


7.) 20 Dec 2018 09:05:16
DCL is an awful player Ed. So bad that you’re playing a winger that can’t finish as a striker ahead of him.
Rangers would be much better off with Solanke who does actually have a chance of being a top player ;)

{Ed025's Note - no bobby he is a young guy who has what it takes to succeed, tall athletic and can put himself about a bit, he also has an eye for a goal and with a bit more experience will become a top top player i believe, vikram on the other hand is what johnny rotten is to opera im afraid mate.. :)


8.) 21 Dec 2018 10:23:29
Looks like I’ve got me a blue fish on the line Ed! I might throw it back though, they always taste a bit bitter ;-)
I always enjoy our banter! Lol. Hope you and your family have a great Christmas holiday mate.

{Ed025's Note - banter is what its all about bobby, have a great one yourself mate..


 

 

24 Aug 2018 23:37:30
Besiktas seem to have posted a pic of Karius in their shirt and then took it off. Seems it's done. But the reports says 1.25 million for this season and a further 1.25 for next with an additional fee of 1.7 million at end of loan.

I'd read previously the fee would be much higher in region of 9 million in total with a percentage of any future sale.

Jonesred

1.) 25 Aug 2018 07:58:56
4.2m seems pretty low in today’s market.


2.) 25 Aug 2018 09:31:20
Who cares? The lad deserves a chance to get his career back on track and he wasn’t going to get it here!

It’s not our money that he’s bought with and sold for!


3.) 25 Aug 2018 14:30:46
I think we are lucky any team actually wanted him after the last couple of months for him. That said good luck to the lad hope he does well.


4.) 25 Aug 2018 18:29:42
I agree, wish him the best of luck

Crooky.


5.) 26 Aug 2018 00:35:41
Danny ward (3rd or 4th choice) went for 12 million though!


6.) 26 Aug 2018 13:23:36
I’m not fussed about the money. I’d rather he gets the chance to rebuild his career.


7.) 27 Aug 2018 12:48:41
Basically what we paid for him.

Let’s hope the lad gets the space and the peace to rebuild his career and confidence 👍.


8.) 02 Sep 2018 10:22:56
Shame this thread got sidetracked by football finances, which clearly most people have no clue about.

I remember the original post from Ed002 a while back mentioning Ake, Ojo and one other player as the most highly rated youngsters in football.

Very interesting post it was.

ED002, if you are about, can you give us an update - who are the highly rated youngsters now?

{Ed002's Note - That is not happening anymore, sorry.}


 

 

 

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13 Jan 2019 08:32:56
Some reports are stating Diego Laxalt is available for just 11 million euros. Aren't we interested him?

Jonesred

1.) 13 Jan 2019 09:36:22
We should be all over this one. Offers good cover for Robbo and Mane (definitely better than what Moreno and Lallana can) and his showing at the World Cup as a LB was impressive. Getting a bargain that kills two birds with one stone means we can spend big on a forward in the summer and promote a bunch of academy players for the eventual fire sale of most of our squad players in the summer.


2.) 13 Jan 2019 10:31:47
Why would we spend big on a forward in the summer?
Unless one of our current front 3 is leaving.


3.) 13 Jan 2019 11:13:55
FlashTheRed, for depth. Otherwise we ain't getting anywhere in the domestic cups next season either. Our front 3 cannot play every game, and our backups are simply not good enough. I hate this notion that all that is needed is a strong first 11. If one of our front 3 gets a serious injury, our title challenge goes up in flames. So far we have been lucky. We may not be next season.


4.) 13 Jan 2019 11:16:33
£11m for a bloke who moved for something like £15m or £16m not too long ago?

I know Milan aren't over healthy financially, but it doesn't seem likely they'd accept a loss on him after such a short time. Unless he's bombed there. (I haven't been watching him) .


5.) 13 Jan 2019 13:43:55
On the subject of, if the club did look at buying another top forward, we play roughly 50-60 games a season. 4 top forwards could start about 40 games each not including substitute appearances. Looking at Sturridge’s wage we actually have 4 top forwards already at the club, but Klopp doesn’t trust him enough to give him the minutes. If Sturridge goes in the summer then that frees up a massive slice of wage. I love our front 3 but an extra bit of quality in there to compete with them wouldn’t hinder them but would actually help.


6.) 13 Jan 2019 13:59:48
IB, I disagree. You cannot spend big on a forward if any of our big forwards are not leaving which ain't going to happen next summer cos they all signed improved contracts. That is not how football works. What "big" forward will come here and sit on the bench for any of our front 3? For depth? Well If you want depth, a "big" forward is not how you get it cos it is a bad investment from a financial stand point (wages, fees, etc) .

The fact of the matter is that If you spend big on a forward, then you should give him every opportunity to justify the outlay by playing him consistently. How's that going to happen if Klopp won't play him consistently ahead of the current big front 3 we have? Also, you saying we have been lucky with injuries, can apply to every other team in the PL so that is a non argument IMO hence, NOT a reason to go spend big on anyone. Cheers, man.


 

 

02 Jan 2019 16:47:43
I know this is more directly Chelsea related but in part related to Liverpool, but can the Ed's confirm if now that Chelsea have signed Pulisic does this mean they have dropped interest in Fekir?

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - Try the Chelsea page.}


1.) 02 Jan 2019 18:05:30
It doesn't matter if Chelsea sign Fekir or not. We aren't signing him either way.


2.) 02 Jan 2019 19:09:37
Chelsea are about to go into overdriven panic coz their about to lose hazard, that's the top and bottom of it.


 

 

30 Dec 2018 10:33:46
in terms of youngsters who can cover the full back positions, am I right in thinking Camacho can play RB? Plus we have Hoever who I think can cover RB too.

I'm aware in terms of left back we have Gallagher, Lewis, Ayore and Juanma. Albeit some are out on loan at present.

Given this would the club be willing to let both Moreno and Clyne leave this window? There's alleged interest from Fulham, Palace and Cardiff for Clyne, and would be best for all parties if he left this window.

Jonesred

1.) 30 Dec 2018 10:45:32
Is it really best for all parties? We would be changing our depth for no reason and clyne and moreno would probably have the same opportunities to go in July as they do now?


2.) 30 Dec 2018 10:59:21
I couldn't agree more Faithinworks. Why change the dynamics of the squad? I would much rather bring in a seasoned player over a youth un proven player. The youth shouldn't be thrown in if an injury happens. They need easing in and integrating in to the team slowly. Which allows the manager to manage there exposure correctly. On a side note I've been thinking of the Pulisic situation. I'm starting to think Klopp likes the player obviously as he had him at Dortmund. But to be the big marketing tool in which he could well be in America. He will have to be playing in a successful team. Which I feel the owners may put pressure on Klopp to find a place for him in the team. So Klopp may be pulling out so he doesn't have this outside pressure of picking someone who isn't the right fit for the task in hand.


3.) 30 Dec 2018 11:02:30
Given Moreno has stated he is unhappy and has played about three times yes, Clyne has only had one full appearance in years for us with a few cameos.

The wages they are on compared to the youngsters I would say we would cope without both.

Both players want more games and we can’t give them that.


4.) 30 Dec 2018 11:04:27
I don't think either of them should leave for now. Injuries are something we have to plan for in my opinion and that's why we need the squad depth.
As a matter of fact, like Ed0333, I think we should add Fekir this January. That way, our offence is totally covered for injuries the way the defence is. (I don't exactly trust Sturridge or Origi and look at what City is going through without Fernandinho)
By May, after we've won the league, we can think of who will leave. But this is a big chance to win the league. Next season, I see the Manchester teams spending in excess of 200m. We can't let this chance slip through our fingers (or feet) .


5.) 30 Dec 2018 11:30:54
Guys the budget for the year in terms of wages is already set at the start of the club's financial. year. so it would be trying to decrease cost vs the prize money received for winng the league but also trying to save pennies compared to the vast amount of money spent to date trying to win the title. So do not unstabilise the team. Players may be unhappy but they xan play in the fa cup and prove their worth.


6.) 30 Dec 2018 11:37:39
I can’t see any of them leaving with a title run like we are in this season. May have bonuses in contracts if they win the title, plus for some of them it might be there only shot at winning a premier league medal.


7.) 30 Dec 2018 11:56:58
If a player is unhappy they can leave. Keeping them against their will can upset the apple cart more. Give the left back slot to Gallagher or someone who is willing to work for it. Moreno has been nothing but a failure since he joined and has continually let his team mates down. I never wanted him as a back up in the past and i certainly don’t now he is moaning. If he wants game time he should look in the mirror.


8.) 30 Dec 2018 11:58:55
Apparently, Leicester are also interested in Clyne.


9.) 30 Dec 2018 16:12:10
I think some posters are forgetting Moreno and Clyne are only getting the odd game because both Milner and Gomez are injured. If both were fit then both Milner and Gomez would play the full back position before Clyne or Moreno.

We also have Fabino who can cover full back. Selling both Clyne and Moreno in this coming window would make no difference at all to the squad. They are simply surplus, this is why I mentioned the youngsters we had who can cover full back.

If you look at options we are fine.

Robertson.
Milner.
Gomez.
Arnold.
Fabino (if needed) .

Youngsters.
Camacho.
Hoever.
Gallagher.
Lewis.
Juanma.
Ayore.


10.) 30 Dec 2018 17:30:52
Jones - I get it but in Clyne and Moreno you have guys who are ready to contribute and are regularly competing in training at those poaitions. Ok Moreno has had a moan, but hmthat jas been the first sign of that fmafter literally years of putting in a shift on the training paddock. It seems unneccesary to me unless a big enough offer comes in and / or either of those 2 really values wanting to leave asap over waiting til summer.


 

 

26 Dec 2018 18:38:27
Seems likely we will move on Lallana in the summer, and an outsid chance of us letting Milner move on also.

Question is IF this were to happen, would you consider taking Andre Gomes from Barça? Looks a quality player for me and if we could get him for a reasonable fee he'd be a great signing.

This is IF we moved on both Lallana and Milner.

Jonesred

1.) 26 Dec 2018 19:01:17
Not for me. He's a small fish who only looks big in an even smaller pond.

{Ed0333's Note - I’m not 100% sure Lalana will survive January


2.) 26 Dec 2018 19:11:11
True Ed I could easily see him leave January also. I think Gomes would be a good addition in midfield. Nice mix with Henderson, Keita, Fabinho, Wijnaldum and Gomes with Shaqiri able to play up top as well.

{Ed0333's Note - I wouldn’t be applied to Gomes mate.


3.) 26 Dec 2018 19:11:23
The benefits Milner has provided this season are really not easy to measure because they don't come in the form of statistics. But the fact that he can play virtually any position (except GK I assume) makes him an invaluable member of the team. And I really do think his quiet but very competitive, combative on-field leadership has seeped into the other players. I'd still take one more year of Milner before even looking at anybody else. Unless it's a youngster with great potential in a year or two.


4.) 26 Dec 2018 19:11:52
Maybe Ed0333, but Gomes would be a backwards step. Wait for Harry Wilson or look to David Brooks. Certainly not Gomes though. He's just about above average, I suppose.

{Ed0333's Note - I can also appreciate you’re point of view mate. But for me it’s Fekir or no one. We buy Fekir and we’ll stroll the league.


5.) 26 Dec 2018 19:26:29
Have to agree with you ArAy Milner epitomises the Klopp enthusiasm and work rate like no other player for me . He's been my player of the season so far, his professionalism athleticism and tactical awareness shines through and rubs off on the squad and I'd welcome him being a Liverpool player for the next season at least.


6.) 26 Dec 2018 19:26:58
How's Fekir got on this season? I've not followed French football at all in the last few months.


7.) 26 Dec 2018 19:37:49
Great result today. Personally think what we are missing is pace from the bench. At 3-0 70th minute today would of been ideal to replace mane or Salah with someone with relatively the same pace. Whether that’s someone like Wilson or Brewster or someone new I think that’s what we are missing if Salah or mane need a rest or get injured.


8.) 26 Dec 2018 19:38:38
Ed0333 - I totally agree with you and would love Fekir at the club, it should've been done in the summer and feel for the lad . anyways, I've two questions (first one hyapithetical)

1. Are you aware of the club are lookin at Fekir again, or has that ship sailed?
(Most asked question on this site I know but got to ask! )

2. Do think bringing Fekir, or anyone, in to the club in January would disrupt the groove that the team are in at the moment?
I'm thinking that Keita, Fabinho and even Robbo took a lot of time 'bedding in' and someone like Fekir for instance would potentially stunt Shaq's place in the team?
I guess you could look at it from the other side of the coin and say that it'd push Shaq to higher heights, in terms of competition. I just wanted to know your thoughts really on whether brining someone in right now would be a positive or negative affect in the team?

My preference would be to get deals done for Fekir and Pulisic, and bring Wilson back, for the summer and nothing in January but I'm no doubt wishful thinking!

Anyways, I hope all the eds and Reds have had great Xmases and thank you to the boys for a great performance today to top off a good Xmas!

YNWA.

{Ed0333's Note - I have to be honest mate I’ve heard rumours about Fekir coming but they are all unfortunately unfounded. It would not surprise me if he turned up at Chelsea which would kill me. I’m off the opinion you can never have enough quality players in a group. Look at City they have injuries to De Bruyne, Silva and they replace quality with quality. We have an absolutely golden chance to win the title and contarary to popular opinion I feel we need to sign an attacking player as a contingency. Win the title then worry about if the player we bought was surplus to requirements


9.) 26 Dec 2018 19:38:55
I agree completely I just can't see it happening after the mess in summer window he must if been pissed off with us, but we ain't done that bad have we .


10.) 26 Dec 2018 21:48:02
Back to Millie, I'm sure I've seen him don the gloves in the past, villa I think.


 

 

08 Dec 2018 23:51:04
Who does anyone seeing as our departures in January?

Could be a busy one, I can see one of Origi or Sturridge leaving (most likely Origi) . Would wolves still be interested and would he go there now?

Would anyone be interested in Clyne? Best for all parties is he moves on as playing time is practically impossible for him.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Dec 2018 00:53:52
There was earlier today that Clyne’s lifestyle makes him unselectable as a premier league player. Wouldn’t that be a breach of contract Eds?

{Ed001's Note - it would be very difficult to win a case in football with that, plus clubs have a responsibility to look after their players, not throw them out the first chance they get.}


2.) 09 Dec 2018 06:23:44
It's a shame. For both player and club.


3.) 09 Dec 2018 11:45:19
After origi scored another winner against the toffees I'm glad he is still here. I thought he played some nice football at Burnley too. I never realised how tall he is. He is almost a "big man" and every team can do with one of those.


4.) 09 Dec 2018 12:53:47
I don’t see many if any of the players in and around the first team leaving especially during this busy schedule. We’re a few injuries away from being in trouble and injuries is a common occurrence for us so letting the likes of Lallana, origi, sturridge, clyne etc go now would be a huge mistake. We need a squad and these are experienced players that can do a job, unless we’re wiling to replace with better players, we should just wait for the summer and address it then. We do need to get rid of some deadwood though, but in the summer.


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2019 07:53:31
Vary true Ravi, and I don’t see them catching us.

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16 Jan 2019 19:31:35
By no means am I saying this is true, just posting what I read, I think Llorente is as good as gone and Batshuay is off to Monaco.

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14 Jan 2019 17:27:47
Cheers for reply Ed. I have complete trust in Klopp with whoever he signs, Robertson and chamberlain were both slated as bad buys but look at them under Klopp.

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12 Jan 2019 00:24:23
All for one of Lewis, Juanma, or another youngster get a few chances instead.

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06 Jan 2019 11:37:09
Wolves would have been a good move for him in summer, he might regret that now, seeing how well they have done. Now that they are close to signing Abraham I think that ship has sailed.

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18 Jan 2019 18:09:25
Hi goal v Chelsea at Stamford bridge in CL was best memory of him, that was some shot as well.

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16 Jan 2019 20:37:26
Thanks Torres, typical of here now.

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16 Jan 2019 17:57:12
Tottenham interested in Origi this month according to Telegraph.

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15 Jan 2019 16:14:02
Unbelievable most fans wanted Clyne gone, now saying was a mistake to let him go. Come on we are more than fine. All of

Milner.
Hoever.
Fabinho.
And possibly Henderson can cover right back. Point is even though his injury isn’t at the best time we are more than covered. I would rather see at least one of Milner, Fabinho or Hoever play there rather than Clyne anyway.

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13 Jan 2019 21:04:54
I think I’m terms of finances to buy a few players this summer we are fine. We will receive money from league for whichever place we finish plus CL money.

I would say outs could generate some funds also. I don’t doubt new players will arrive this summer.

Jonesred