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17 Jun 2019 09:15:03
Hi Ed's just wanted to ask has there been any new developments in Clyne at all?

Jonesred

{Ed001's Note - not that I know of. I had expected him to make the loan permanent, but they are having a rethink due to his lifestyle.}


1.) 17 Jun 2019 09:38:53
Saw him stocking up on pizzas and junk in Waitrose by ours with his boys. Clearly living his best life!


2.) 17 Jun 2019 10:20:12
He got the munchies!


3.) 17 Jun 2019 10:36:17
Should have never signed him. The Southampton defence at the time before he moved made him look good.

He is just costing the club more and more money the longer he stays on.

We would be better off terminating his contract and pay what is due to him as he is on holday at Anfield and unlikely any club going to take on his wages.

{Ed001's Note - he never looked good at Southampton or Palace, it was a bizarre signing caused by bad scouting. One of the most important things is to check out a player's background and lifestyle and no one did that.}


4.) 17 Jun 2019 12:33:50
Such a short career in football so why waste it? Can party and do what you want at 36+ when you retire!


5.) 17 Jun 2019 15:18:48
What lifestyle choices is he making? Is he a smoker? Party man?


6.) 18 Jun 2019 22:35:57
What's all this about his lifestyle?


 

 

28 Mar 2019 21:31:18
Can any of the Ed's confirm if there is any reported interest in Lovren from Napoli, Milan and Roma?

This has been in reports today but just wondered if you could clarify.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - The first I have heard of this and am not in a position to check as I am away. What I can say is that Milan and Roma have tentative CB targets and he would make a viable financial option. Napoli I am not so sure and rather doubt he would be a viable option if their situation changed and needed a CB. Regardless, he is experienced and generally seen as a good player.}


1.) 28 Mar 2019 21:59:41
Cheers for clearing up Ed. Much appreciated.


2.) 29 Mar 2019 00:59:14
As always, ED02, many thanks for your contribution with questions like this.

Enjoy your time away.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


3.) 29 Mar 2019 05:41:13
Personally I can't see Lovren going anywhere, not this year.


4.) 29 Mar 2019 07:18:40
Seen these rumours and while I hope he stays I wouldn't hold it against him if he would want to leave. Great back up and we might struggle to find a better back up centre back who is comfortable playing in a defence with a high line.

Ed do you know if he is looking to leave?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.)


5.) 29 Mar 2019 19:18:21
i think the main worrying stat is that lovren hasn't played more than something like 6 games in a row before being injured.

whilst i have no doubt he is a decent player we can't have a group of injury prone CB's.


6.) 29 Mar 2019 21:39:24
Have to respectfully disagree salah, Lovren is a champions league and world cup finalist he would get into plenty of top teams in the world. He gets a hard time from a lot of Liverpool fans, myself included at times, but he is a top centre back and will attract interest as he ha fallen behind gomez and arguably matip in pecking order. Will be 3rd choice for us at best next season why would he not look to go elsewhere?


7.) 30 Mar 2019 10:25:47
I agree bmena, I like him as a player mate, he's not incredible or anything but sure, he's a good player and is a good backup, I'm sure teams will be interested in him but all I meant was A. I don't see him wanting to leave and B. I don't see us wanting to sell, not yet. Who knows, it may happen but nothing suggests it will anytime soon, we all know how full of sh*t the media are.


8.) 30 Mar 2019 22:52:40
Matip undoubtedly had a good run of games. But he hasn't taken Lovren's place, in my mind. Lovren is a key player for our defense, even if he is not going to be in the first 11 week in, week out. Fitness levels permitting, he is interchangeable with Gomez, with very little fall off in quality. And fitness levels permitting, he allows, Gomez to be interchangeable with Alexander-Arnold at RB. Sure, Matip gives you the same, but i believe there is a noticeable drop off in quality.


9.) 31 Mar 2019 11:45:37
Lovren is a good player with very good attributes but concerns me he can’t play more than 6 games in a row to be more consistent we need less injury prone players .


10.) 01 Apr 2019 12:08:34
Matip is better than Lovren.

{Ed001's Note - in what way?}


11.) 01 Apr 2019 12:43:49
In the way he beat Kane to every high ball yesterday and stuck with his man rather than getting drawn to the ball, sorry tris but imo lovren is a liability and although matip looks gangly he’s very good in the air and ain’t bad at reading the game, I thought he was very good yesterday bar the one slip.

{Ed001's Note - one slip? He was out of position constantly and is far too slow, constantly giving away needless free kicks that even he got annoyed with himself for giving away. I really do not know what you saw but it was nothing like reality.}


12.) 01 Apr 2019 13:00:24
Still better than lovren though 😉, have a good day mate.

{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced but nice comeback.}


13.) 01 Apr 2019 15:11:47
In the words of Gerard Butler “this is madness”.


14.) 03 Apr 2019 00:35:51
I assume Gomez is the future, Lovren would be seen as first choice if not for injuries and Matip has covered well when he wasn't expected to play half the games he got. That said, I expect Matip to be moved on or kept one more year until his contract expires. Milner and Moreno will probably move on, as will Randall, so an investment in a left sided defender is pretty likely this summer. Personally like to see a center back come too but only if there's a worldie out there. Can't see midfield needing too much but an attacking player is needed to replace Sturridge and Origi.


 

 

09 Feb 2019 00:23:28
Lot of people talking about who will be bought for next season, but what about the youngsters and loaners?

For me most likely youngster will be one of the full backs as we have so may potentially good ones at the academy.
For me one of Lewis, Arroyo, Juanma, Gallagher, Camacho or even Hoever will be the youngster that I'd like to break into the squad.


Out of the loanees I think (which might not be a popular choice) is Grujic. I just have this sneaky feeling he will take his chance pre season.

Might not be everyone's first choices but let me know who would be choices from a loanee and a youngster.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Feb 2019 02:20:45
I really like the look of Paul Glatzel and hope he gets some game time in pre season and let's see what happens.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 10:08:36
I'd like to see how Neco Williams or Hoever would do covering right back. Just don't see Klopp prioritising a back up rightfull when there's a lot of talent at the club. Also if a centre back was brought in as competition to VVD and Gomez (de ligt the dream), it would likely be someone who could fill in at rightfull too.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 14:03:11
Wilson will rip it up for us next season imo.

{Ed025's Note - dont bank on it lerchy..


4.) 09 Feb 2019 15:54:31
I think we will cash in on Wilson next window to be honest.

I think Wilson, Ojo, Randall, Chiravella, Kent and possibly Woodburn will all be sold. I can’t see any breaking through. I think the more likely position a youngster will break through in is at full back.


5.) 09 Feb 2019 16:20:39
Any reason bout Wilson Ed025?

{Ed025's Note - i have seen quite a bit of him LN and for me he is very lightweight, the prem is a different beast to the championship mate and i think he would find it difficult..


6.) 09 Feb 2019 17:02:01
Whys that ed? And i disagree jones i've watched harry since he was a kid down prenton park and his goals have always been sublime. Id like to think he will break through next season.

{Ed025's Note - hes very good at free kicks lerchy and if you could bring him on just for them he would be an asset, the rest of his game is mediocre at best though and hes not strong enough for the prem imo mate..


7.) 09 Feb 2019 17:32:08
I understand that's always been a concern but the championship is probably as physical as the bpl for me, more tough tackles than showboating for me, also harry has been brilliant, a lot more than free kicks, he's been orchastrating well from deep and were it not for the woodwork he'd have a few more goals.

I think he gets in on the right for me with shaq benched or even cm. Definitely our brightest home grown prospect on loan currently.

{Ed001's Note - I would say the Championship is more physical.}


8.) 09 Feb 2019 17:38:15
Do you think harry will make it with us tris? I hear klopp rates him very highly.


9.) 10 Feb 2019 07:20:05
Sometimes players do need to bulk up and strengthen, just look at Sterling when he first arrived.

{Ed001's Note - sorry just saw lerchy's question so will reply to it here before I forget. I expect Wilson to be given the chance to make it, whether or not he does it up to him.}


10.) 10 Feb 2019 16:27:57
It’s hard to integrate too many youngsters in a squad that’s still capable of challenging for top honours, but maybe 2-3 will get a shot and I’d like to see

- Sturridge for Rhian Brewster
- Lallana for Harry Wilson
- Moreno for Adam Lewis.


11.) 10 Feb 2019 17:13:28
Thanks ed and agree sg, brewster is very highly rated so should be around once fit, another loan for woodburn and grujic and i think its over for ejaria, kent and ojo though we should get decent money for kent as he's had a very good season.


12.) 10 Feb 2019 21:48:38
Love that Lerchy ‘if it weren’t for the woodwork he’d have more goals’! Best line I’ve heard in ages! 😂
If it weren’t but the woodwork there would just be a net on the floor! Lol!


13.) 11 Feb 2019 05:54:38
Loved the look of Adam Lewis since I first saw him whip in a cross for the 18s. Beautiful stuff.


 

 

08 Feb 2019 23:58:27
Can anyone see Grujic coming back into the squad next season?

I think he may well take his chance and become more of a squad player. If he did I think having both Grujic and Fabinho in the squad would allow Gini a more attacking role.

I can't see Rabiot happening if it did then I'd say Grujic is as good as gone, as although Grujic, Fabinho and Rabiot aren't the same player we couldn't accommodate the three in a squad.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Feb 2019 01:09:02
I don't think Gini would be good more attacking. We need more creativity.

Keita was meant to bring that but he's struggling. Lallana shows flashes of magic but is inconsistent and will most likely go before next season. The Ox returning should help so it'll most likely be the Ox and Keita fighting for the attacking role in the midfield 3 when playing 4-3-3.

Gini is good in the role he plays. Grujic might be in with a chance if Lallana and Milner go and he's happy with a bench role.

I don't think we'll bring in Rabiot, not sure. We might just get a couple of young players if Milner, Lallana and Grujic go.

Just my opinion as with Klopp probably trying to give Keita minutes and the Ox returning I doubt we'd spend too big in a midfielder who would take their spot.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 05:53:56
Take his chance and be a squad player. can't see himbeing keen tbh.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 10:18:20
I think there could be room for Rabiot and Grujic EVENTUALLY, if we could get Rabiot in this summer and loan Grujic to a German side hopefully in europe it could work. By then the likes of Hendo and Gini will be 30 and Grujic will hopefully have established himself more. Just wouldn't give up on him yet there's a player there.


4.) 09 Feb 2019 12:47:13
The best thing for Grujic and his career would be to move on, otherwise he runs the risk of becoming the next Markovic and wasting years when he could be playing regular elsewhere. Nothing against him as a player, just don't see him becoming a first team regular.


5.) 09 Feb 2019 13:04:17
Difference between him and Markovic is Grujic has gone in and being d main man from day one in a team fighting for a european spot whereas Markovic struggled for game time wherever he went. Everyone can't be written off as a Markovic the minute they hit 22.


6.) 09 Feb 2019 14:49:08
Grujic should move on for the sake of his career. He is no Markovic, but he isn't going to get in to our side right now.


7.) 09 Feb 2019 18:15:46
I think Grujic will be sold in the summer.


 

 

30 Jan 2019 12:55:59
Ed's do you know of any progress in relation to Markovic's move to Turkey?

Also do you see Woodburn going on loan again this window?

Cheers.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any deal for LM to Turkey. BW will almost certainly go on loan.}


1.) 30 Jan 2019 18:34:24
I think Woodburn is going to be off to Hull for the rest of the season. I haven't seen Hull play this season. Are they a good fit for him?


2.) 30 Jan 2019 19:29:12
Ed002 What do you think of Woodburn?

{Ed002's Note - I have no thoughts about him at all - Ed001 would be the one to ask about young men.}


3.) 30 Jan 2019 19:56:04
Ed002 we can't ask numero uno because the length of detail he goes into about young men is quite disturbing lol.


4.) 31 Jan 2019 21:53:00
Think BW problem is that he's decent at a lot of things but not great at any of them, decent doesn't cut it at top level. His versatility is his hindrance as he gets moved around too much. Right now I see him becoming poor mans Dirk Kuyt, runner and poacher if he takes some poaching lessons from Kuyt. Maybe playing in germany should be in his future.


5.) 01 Feb 2019 02:21:28
I still think Woodburn can be fantastic for us. He just needs to regain confidence. I think he is technically superb, a fantastic finisher and has great movement. Playing for a team with the right style of play is most important and I think scoring a few goals for the u23s for the rest of the season would be best. Who knows - if he picks up some form I could genuinely see him coming off the bench in some games during the run in.


 

 

 

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19 Jan 2020 11:21:13
Hi

Just posting to say I've had to sell my seat back for today's game as I'm sick. So if anyone is interested I've just sold back at 11.21.

Good luck.

Jonesred

1.) 19 Jan 2020 15:00:59
Hope we win to help you get better quicker Jones!


 

 

17 Jun 2019 09:04:35
Reportedly we have bid £40 million for Fernandes not saying true just what I've read so could be bull.

Jonesred

1.) 17 Jun 2019 11:50:41
we've bid for

nicolas pepe

bruno fernandes

nabil fekir

timo werner

matthius de ligt

just made up stories for click bait. if we signed all them what a full squad we would have tho.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 14:24:50
Rumour has it we’ve put in a €15m bid for Simao.


3.) 17 Jun 2019 16:09:34
That never gets old, TSR. Love it.


 

 

11 Jun 2019 12:58:46
Just out of curiosity what midfielder from the below would be the preferred choice. Possible any of them could sign but who would be the one you would choose.

Fekir.
Van Der Beek.
Fernandes.
Pépé.

Although all seem great players I think I'd still prefer Fekir.

Jonesred

1.) 11 Jun 2019 13:26:17
Fekir offers more goals and assists combined I think. Van der beek is more of a Lampard type player arriving in the box late to get on the end of things. Fernandes is more the coutinho type of creative player pepe is a goalscorer so if go fekir personally.


2.) 11 Jun 2019 13:41:21
I don't see the need for the high rating on Van der Beek. He's an okay winger and that's about it. Just because his team did surprisingly well this year, media is jumping on the bandwagon of declaring him a star.


3.) 11 Jun 2019 13:49:54
Pepe, he is going to be special.


4.) 11 Jun 2019 14:03:48
Yeah I'm not convinced on van de beek either. Was the advanced midfielder in a team who scored crazy number of goals. He doesn't look much better than klaasen did in an ajax shirt. Fekir with only a year left on his contract would certainly represent the best value.


5.) 11 Jun 2019 14:13:53
Pepe is not worth the price. He's too one footed and doesn't contribute enough out of possession. Very good forward but not €80m good.

Van Der Beek is riding the crest of wave. Think Davy Klaassen. He's massively over rated and simply not good enough.

Fernandes I've only seen a few times but he looks fantastic. Maybe a bit lightweight but players can adapt

Fekir is everything we are missing, with a dodgy knee. I'd take the risk personally. I think he's worth it. Creativity and goals from midfield without compromising on work rate.


6.) 11 Jun 2019 14:34:58
Van de Beek is not a winger.


7.) 11 Jun 2019 14:35:58
Fekir.


8.) 11 Jun 2019 16:18:22
Surely Lyon would have to accept 30 million or so this summer instead of meeting him run out his contract. Surely be a no brainer, another season without his knee showing major issues, for the same money Wilson and Kent will make, and most likely similar wages and fees that sturridge was robbing us, we'd get a player in mid 20s with a giant step up in ability. He doesn't seem to be as hot a property this summer and can't think of many clubs superior to Lyon who would offer him guarantee star role. Looks shrewd business to me. Unless his knee was deemed a complete NO by our doctors, or if there's any ill feeling left over from last summer on his behalf. Lyon squad over the season has seen the likes of dembele, cornet, depay, aouor, prove their worth. Fekir wouldn't be as big a loss for them either.


9.) 11 Jun 2019 17:35:40
disagree red92, his contribution could be worth a lot of money if he can stay and get them into the champions league!


10.) 11 Jun 2019 17:45:37
4 very different players really. Fekir the only one really who can play wide and central. I wouldn't dream of spending 70 million on a player who's only just had his breakthrough year now in a weaker league. The likes of gervinho, Ben arfa, malouda, cabella, thauvin, chamakh, Remy, lavezzi, James, lemar, toivennan, . None of them could ever make the step up after after just 1 year great year In ligue 1. Fekir has at least shown a few years of quality, like lacazette, moutinho, fabinho. For 70 million I'd want to be getting a son, sane, dybala or a Saul. Not a gamble. Proven ability shown at the highest level over a few years at that age.


11.) 11 Jun 2019 18:54:50
Spot on, Har_red92. Fekir is proven in the French Ligue for the past 5 years at least even tho, Pepe is the real deal and Ed01 says we are interested in both. I would pick Fekir over Pepe for now, tho.


12.) 11 Jun 2019 23:54:05
I don't think any of them are great ATM but the potential is there. I don't know enough about them to make a call. Whoever the club chooses I support as they have signed some greats recently. It has been said Pepe won't come to rotate.


 

 

26 May 2019 08:12:53
Is there any known interest for lovers at this stage of season Ed's?

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - First cuckoo of spring type stuff?}


1.) 26 May 2019 10:22:20
Much more so than for fighters.

Although prime lover season is March/ April.


2.) 26 May 2019 13:37:54
Arent Jan Molby and Peter Beardsley doing their annual kama sutra burlesque show at half-time in the Community Shield?


 

 

14 Mar 2019 10:22:09
After a bit of a slump for some people things are looking good again. Great win last night and into the next round. Eight league games left and we are still in with a shout of the title.

If we were offered this at the start of the season we would have all gladly taken it.

This time last season we were losing players left right and centre which for me badly hindered the end of our campaign. However this year we seem to have a number of players either returning or close to return.

Gomez is due back this month which is a huge bonus for us.

Lallana was man of the match for me Sunday and hopefully he can play like that from now until the rest of the season for us. If he does it will be like having a new player.

Chamberlain although he may only get a few cameos he still could prove to be a good impact player.

Keita still to play regularly but I still think he can contribute in what's left of this season.

Jonesred

1.) 14 Mar 2019 11:28:34
Lallana is playing for his future so hopefully gives it his all to end of the season. think his time with us is done so putting himself in shop window.


2.) 14 Mar 2019 11:29:23
I think the owners expected nothing less of where we are today . and will be very disappointed if we end the season winning nothing.


3.) 14 Mar 2019 11:44:50
Was it not a slump for you?

Would you have taken this position before the City game?

People keep repeating the same thing over and over about what was expected at the start of the season. After we spent the most in Europe I am sure most of us expected min CL quarters and challenge for the league. Posters make out we are having a Leicester season. I said at the start of the season we are in the top 5 teams in Europe and we should act like it.


4.) 14 Mar 2019 12:47:23
Lallana was a brilliant player for us. He got injured and has taken a long time to recover but now he is fully fit he is proving he is still a top player.


5.) 14 Mar 2019 18:20:07
Mark, it was a slump, for sure BUT not like the slump you and the rest of the knee-jerk reactors made it out to be. Every man and his dog knows blips come and go during a season and injuries happen. It is part of the roller coaster process of a season. The main thing is to stay the course and keep fighting with the hope that things will change for the better and not let your issues completely ruin your season which by all accounts, the blip could have. That is obvious to anyone with an ounce of football knowledge.

The prob. with you and your lot is that you go OTT with knee-jerk reactions cos we did not win a game. I mean, what if we had lot to WH, Utd, Leicester and/ or Everton, what would you be saying or doing if you are losing your marbles cos we drew these games? That is the point. What would you have done had we gone 11 games w/ o a win like we did in the 2002/ 2003 season after being top of the PL? I shudder to think about it really.

The bottom line now is that in spite of our issues, NOTHING has been won or lost and even Pep knows that and has said as much. Or are you suddenly smarter than him now? I propose you take a chill pill next time this happens (cos it will) and be more measured and nuanced in your assessment. It wi;ll prevent you from always going into meltdown mode when things don't go according to plan. Peace, my friend.


6.) 14 Mar 2019 19:28:44
I don’t think it was a slump, I think it was a hangover from going out of the cups early and having a “warm weather holi. errr training camp”.

The players lost their sharpness. It was a risk by Kloppy but he knew we had a 7 point lead. Better to have a hangover now than be a busted flush with 5 games to go.
We will finish strongly and Man City need to win all their league games now.


7.) 14 Mar 2019 22:40:04
Ron, I agree with you on the whole BUT the warm weather training had NOTHING to do with the slump cos all clubs do it. Spurs just did it this week or is Poch stupid too? It was just unfortunate that during the training, VVD got sick and so did Milner. Then after we arrived, Milner got sick and Hendo and Wiji got got injured in training before the WH game. Injuries and illness can happen and warm whether training has no bearing on these occurrences.


 

 

 

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03 Jul 2019 21:49:18
Macca mentioned we were interested in Ceballos this time last year so maybe we could be back in, but to be fair probably click bait.

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21 Jun 2019 22:39:02
Could palace take him if Wan Bisaka leaves?

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - As I have said - the price and the wages are an issue.}


 

 

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13 Jun 2019 21:55:59
I’d say we could sign him, next best option for us after Brandt went to Dortmund. If he does come I think Lallana will go.

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12 Jun 2019 16:29:14
If he left we could possibly promote Hoever to 4th choice. Ideal opportunity for him to develop.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - He is a child and count train full time.}


 

 

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06 May 2019 18:32:25
Apparently he’s out Salah along with Firmino too, big blow.

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19 Jan 2020 20:02:10
League titles are league titles imo Ed.

Jonesred

{Ed025's Note - but thats because you are not a bitter evertonian jonesy.. :)


 

 

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24 Dec 2019 19:24:06
Chamberlains is ligament damage but may not be a serious one.

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16 Dec 2019 20:15:29
Look like Ancelotti, blues must be happy with that. Duncan staying on too.

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11 Dec 2019 20:27:14
I’m looking forward to adding Grujic next season as well.

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14 Nov 2019 16:30:16
Defence could improve slightly more too.

Jonesred