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31 Oct 2017 11:14:29
Ed do we still have interest in Ante Coric? Remember us being interested a while ago but he opted to stay put.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - Ante Coric of Dinamo Zagreb is destined for an excellent career if he doesn't move too early as he still has much growing up to do - but Newcastle, Chelsea, Benfica, Roma, Porto, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Porto, Benfica, Spurs and Manchester City are very keen - so pretty much everyone and his dog. His club are aware of this interest and the tentative interest of other sides, such as Everton, Udinese, Crystal Palace and West Ham over the past two years. He had some difficulties in 201/16 but they were eased by Ivaylo Petev arriving - although he has now departed. Following an enquiry from Newcastle in January the club offered, and he signed, a new contract. Approaches from Spurs, Benfica and Porto were turned away in the summer. I suspect he will move on next summer.}


 

 

28 Oct 2017 23:20:09
I've read we are linked with a Brazilian left back that we were monitoring last year from Santos. Zeca I think his name was, we dropped interest apparently due to work permit issues but he now has an Italian passport.

He's trying to get his contract canaclled due to non payment so could be free. Is there any truth in this?

Jonesred

1.) 29 Oct 2017 19:25:07
is this the same player who had a serious knee injury, a left back, and still not back playing, no way Jose .


 

 

08 Aug 2017 20:59:02
If Coutinho does leave which we think is likely at moment and with Lallana out for three months who would people prefer to come in as an addition?

For me I'd love us to get Isco of Madrid. Similar to Coutinho in some ways, but think he'd be a great addition.

Jonesred

1.) 08 Aug 2017 21:45:50
Mate there is NO CHANCE of that happening! Leave Madrid for a team that sell their top players every couple of seasons! Plus he's on fire in the last 6 months he'd be obscenely expensive in fee and wages.


2.) 08 Aug 2017 21:51:33
No chance.


3.) 08 Aug 2017 21:52:18
Wilf Zaha for me.
incredible talent and Premier League proven.


4.) 08 Aug 2017 21:55:39
that is what i have been writing last couple of times lol. awesome player and on a level up on couts. he wouldn't score more than couts but he is better keeper of the ball.


5.) 08 Aug 2017 21:42:29
Griezmann?


6.) 08 Aug 2017 21:59:38
Isco, who has just played a blinder for Real tonight? I don't think so we had our chance to sign him 2 years ago. Our spending is done for this summer, unless VVD arrives.


7.) 08 Aug 2017 22:04:10
you've got no chance with isco especially if madrid dump bale. firminio can play in coutinhos or lallanas role i would rather see a top class striker come in as sturridge is always injured and origi blows hot an cold. it annoys me the way Liverpool seem to cock up every transfer window and klopp must take some of the blame too in this window.


8.) 08 Aug 2017 22:34:05
Glenn Whelan.


9.) 08 Aug 2017 22:52:20
Erickson or Insigne, both have the same skillset as Coutinho, great free kick takers, good vision, good passing and great on the ball.


10.) 09 Aug 2017 00:29:29
Rekon we should sit on it. Ok injuries aside cos it's not like we can have 10 starting quality players per position to account for injuries. But between hendo, Can, Gini, grujic and Woodburn I think there is well enough there. I've always wanted Gini to play further up the pitch anyways and he could be free for that #8 role. that leaves hendo, Can and lallana when returned to rotate the other 2 posiions around him. Grujic and Woodburn can be used sparingly and off the bench.


11.) 09 Aug 2017 02:45:46
I don't think there is enough there faith. Two youngsters, they are class but need confidence. So play them! But this is the premiership, you get one chance. Assensio would be cool, gomez would be cool, and for some reason I can just see lanzini in a red shirt and us fans loving him, I really ghink he would be brilliant in our team. It's not a coutinio replacement, he is a one off, there simply aren't players like him
But. I think he would be a real hit a an field and will surprise many. If it happens. We are definitely going to sign two more. Vvd and an attacking midfielder.

Don't blame you Phil. Thanks for the magic, go show em what you got kid.


 

 

26 Jul 2017 21:55:49
Mirror reporting Phil's asked for a move to Barcelona and asked to leave. Don't know if it's true I've just read it.

Jonesred

1.) 27 Jul 2017 00:28:10
The mirror, says it all.


2.) 27 Jul 2017 01:47:15
Any reports like this arw always crap. If a player " asks " to leave . im sure he loses his cut of the fees he would be entitled to. I remember ed saying its 5% of transfer fee. So a player asking to leave instead of forcing a move is financial stupidity.


3.) 27 Jul 2017 07:54:00
If they hand in a transfer request they do, I think that's what Southampton are waiting for VVD to do.


4.) 27 Jul 2017 11:37:54
The Mirror? Next please.


5.) 27 Jul 2017 11:42:55
It's likely true as Phil played well so as to impress Barcelona.


 

 

26 Jun 2017 21:49:48
Some reports coming out we are trying to sign Lucas Moura from PSG for 26 million. Don't know if true only just read it.

Jonesred

1.) 26 Jun 2017 22:54:15
Would be a great singing but i don't really think these reports are up to date. We allready singned Salah and another winger would mean someone won't get regular first time football and for someone how is a regular for the best team in france and a regular in the CL i don't see why he should come to us.


2.) 27 Jun 2017 01:29:34
Good enough for X factor crammie? 😂😂.


3.) 27 Jun 2017 12:19:18
Lucas Moura links are at least 18 months old and besides, we already have Salah so that should tell the OP that the Moura links are just nonsense.


 

 

 

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09 Dec 2017 08:31:16
Getting to that point in the season where the window is due to reopen. Have to say I'm intrigued who may come in. We all know we need a centre half and are expecting one to arrive. Most of us expect Coutinho to leave also. Given this who are the most realistic options?

I think we should be looking at the below some are long shots but we should at least enquire.

Van Dijk will always be mentioned.
De Vrij in last 6 months of contract.
Goretzka in last 6 months of contract.
Meyer in last 6 months of contract.
Sanchez in last 6 months of contract.
Lemar expensive but quality addition.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Dec 2017 09:09:56
Has Meyer not signed a new contract for his current club?


2.) 09 Dec 2017 10:46:19
I think De Vrij signed a new contract with escape clause.


3.) 09 Dec 2017 10:55:17
De Vrij has signed a new contract, Jones.


4.) 09 Dec 2017 10:57:01
Sanchez is a top quality player but in fairness to our front 3 on current form he doesn't get into our team. Keeper and defence are the areas we need to improve in January and with Keita coming in at the end of the season that will strengthen the midfield, however with 2 key players possibly leaving that will give us chance to replace that area rather than try and and make whole sale changes in 1 window (Jan- def/ keeper, summer-midfield)


5.) 09 Dec 2017 12:31:43
I don't expect Couthino to leave in Jan. I think the club will keep him until the Summer.


6.) 09 Dec 2017 12:36:02
Sanchezis doing exactly what Coutinho is going at Liverpool! Why on earth would you have him at Liverpool? He is a proper sulk who doesn’t care a damn about his current club! Terrible attitude!


7.) 09 Dec 2017 14:16:14
Wait. Harry said that? The guy who has been obsessed with coutinho and just how amazing he is? I’ll remember that you think coutinho is a proper sulk who doesn’t care a damn about his current club! Terrible attitude. Do you want him to stay or not?


8.) 09 Dec 2017 14:43:31
TJ

Ha ha! I am showing you some hipocrscy on this pages page 😄😄😄.


9.) 09 Dec 2017 21:41:59
Hang on a minute. Harry has been defending Cou for weeks now and now he has a terrible attitude like Sanchez? Wow, if hat was sarcasm then great. If not, I fear for you, mate.


10.) 10 Dec 2017 08:21:04
So do the people who thumbed down my comment disagree on the part that Sanchez wouldn't get into our front 3 or the part that we need to sort keeper or defence. Or was it that we would need to strengthen the midfield if Can and Coutinho leave. Or lastly they have no debate to give on a debate forum so it's easier to just to hit the thumbs down button. I think it's probably the latter 🤦🏻‍♂.


 

 

26 Nov 2017 19:36:39
I'm starting to get the feeling that it will be Draxler arriving In January. I might be completely wrong on this but I think it will happen.


Can't say I've seen much of the player to be honest. I was hoping we would try for Sanchez but looks highly unlikely. Meyer and Groertzka will also be available to sign pre contracts so should be interesting window.

Jonesred

1.) 26 Nov 2017 21:05:23
Not sold on Draxler as he is a wide player, has a questionable attitude, is known to not be a hardworker and more importantly, we are furnished there in the wide areas. We'll see what happens.


2.) 26 Nov 2017 23:17:34
I get the feeling that Draxler will go back to Germany, prob Bayern, as they have two aging wingers .


 

 

05 Nov 2017 16:27:38
Quickly approaching January window and we all expect Coutinho to leave, Can will more than likely sign a pre contract with a European team also. We have Keita arriving next summer and we are likely to move for Van Dijk again in January, but what are the likely options in midfield replacements?

Would Lemar be a target again this January? Would Max Meyer be seen as an option given his contract expires in the summer? Sanchez is another with his contract running down as well as Goretzka (spelling) . Given the availability of the above I doubt we are going to miss Coutinho too much. I'm more excited at who may arrive. Even though we are losing Can there are three quality players we could sign under same circumstances, and even a pre contract as early as January. We still seem to be linked with Brandt also which would be a great addition.

Jonesred

1.) 05 Nov 2017 16:44:01
Well we have Lallana to return and Henderson isn't getting a game plus Keita coming in and Grujic needing games.

I don't think we need any more midfielders, I think we need to focus on improving our weaknesses - defence.

{Ed001's Note - Henderson had a knock yesterday.}


2.) 05 Nov 2017 16:55:21
Forget Sanchez, good player but wouldn’t come even on huge wages.
If we can sign a pre-contract agreement with one of the players you mentioned that contacts are up - fine. But in January as far as players to sign and arrive in January a CB is a must, but if a midfielder is to be signed defensive midfielder is one that I’d pursue.


3.) 05 Nov 2017 19:02:30
If we do sell coutinho. The money has to be spent on a ready made world class player.
I'm hoping the defence is sorted out way before then.


4.) 05 Nov 2017 20:32:18
I think we will still try for Van Dijk to be honest. If he does sign I can’t see anymore centre backs arriving. I certainly don’t see a full back joining at all. On the right we have Clyne, Alexander-Arnold and Gomez, ont he left we have Robertson, Moreno and Milner if needed.

That’s why I expect a midfielder if Coutinho leaves which I think is best for all as long as the money is right. Lemar does look good and we seem to be willing to pay the fee. Sanchez would be ideal as a Coutinho replacement but unlikely.

On keepers Ed’s what’s the situation with Donnaruma of Milan? I know he signed a new deal but would he be willing to move?

{Ed002's Note - a premier league club were quoted £100m for Donnarumma at l15, he won’t be moving to Liverpool - other plans for him are taking shape.}


5.) 05 Nov 2017 20:33:36
Hi how Sanchez is and also cheap.

{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page.}


6.) 05 Nov 2017 20:36:04
It would be outrageous for us to sell Phil in January and not bring in a replacement. Keita will replace Can, but someone has to come in for Phil. Full stop.

None of Lallana, Hendo, Grujic, can come close to filling his shoes.


7.) 05 Nov 2017 21:48:06
Sorry Ed my post was meant to read Sanchez is world class and cheap. In response to a Coutinho replacement already needs to be world class.

{Ed002's Note - So to be clear, “world class” (a term over used by Liverpool fans), “cheap” (is this “sluttish” cheap? I am not so sure he wears make up, nor what he would charge Klipperty for a good time), and “not moving to Liverpool”. I cannot comment on what folks perceive to be “world class”, but if you look at the players Liverpool are looking at potentially brining in, they are certainly decent soccer ball players. I suspect Sanchez has figured out where he would be looking to move to. Klopp has done well with attacking players and the club is already in good shape going forward, Coutinho or not. Go get advice and help, and fix the defence - that is the top four fix that the club are missing so much.}


8.) 05 Nov 2017 22:12:32
Very well said Ed002.


9.) 06 Nov 2017 01:18:03
Our front line is sorted with Firmino, Salah and Mane. and given Coutinho played left wing last season he’s already replaced by Salah effectively. Our backup options are Sturridge, Solanke, Ox, all of whom are very capable footballers and we have Ings, Woodburn, Wilson, Ojo behind them too. We clearly don’t need anyone else upfront.

In the midfield I expect with Can and Coutinho leaving our likely starting lineup will be Hendo, Keita and Lallana which is excellent, and we still have Gini who’s a strong option, Milner who’s solid, and Grujic and Woodburn coming through. I personally would like to see a strong defensive midfielder come in as we don’t have a natural in that position. We should be grooming Woodburn to take over Coutinho’s role IMO, but I wouldn’t be disappointed if we went for Lemar either.

As Ed said, there really is no urgent need to spend in midfield/ attack unless someone really special comes along. it’s all about the defence with CB and GK looking the most urgent need of strengthening right now given how Moreno’s performed and Gomez/ TAA coming along at RB.


10.) 06 Nov 2017 01:35:37
Max Meyer would be a good fit to sit infront of defense and link midfield.

Not sure it will happen though.

Cheers.


11.) 06 Nov 2017 06:31:02
Max Meyer a good fit to sit in front of the defense? The fella has never played holding midfield in his life. His best position is off the front man plus I feel we could grab someone better than Meyer if we were indeed looking into that area again.


12.) 06 Nov 2017 08:06:01
Sami, Meyer sitting in front of the defence? I stopped reading after that as I am starting to wonder if you even know who he is or have actually watched him play. Be that as it may, Meyer is not the answer and will take another 3 years to get to Cou's level of even the last two seasons. I Personally don't see who is out there who can replace Cou like for like except of course, Klopp changes the way we play by putting Salah in the no. 10 role behind Bobbie and getting say, a Brandt (who I doubt would come) to play out wide with Ox and Mane.


13.) 06 Nov 2017 09:29:02
Leon Goretzka is class Ron! Your whole impression on Sideways passing midfiled would be put into shame if we land him. You haven’t see him play I guess mate! He is like a silk with the ball.


14.) 06 Nov 2017 09:41:33
Are you replying to my post WCD?

What's my impression on "sideways passing midfield"?

Bit confused, I haven't seen a lot of him.


15.) 06 Nov 2017 20:25:46
I saw a recent game between Scalke and anothet team with a female refree. I did ask the ed about that.

point being wantes to check out Leon G and he did decent but Meyer was the one playing holding midfield role taht day and he caught my eye.

Note sure if it was a one off game.

Cheers.


 

 

04 Nov 2017 08:52:38
i think we need to accept both Can and Coutinho are leaving, but who are the likely incomings in January or summer? I'd expect us to look at Lemar, Meyer, Coric. Still an outside chance of Brandt as well, but more in summer.

Keita arrives in the summer so we already effectively have Can's replacement. Would love us to try and sign Sanchez as well.

Jonesred

1.) 04 Nov 2017 09:25:10
Emre is a good midfielder but his consistency is just not there, yes he can be brilliant but he can be very frustrating too often. Emre leaving for nothing means we lose out on a decent transfer fee nothing else. Coutinho leaving should be for the right reasons - a big sum paid in full no down payments, future payments and what if's - luckily for us Real may be interested too which should help with the expected fee.


2.) 04 Nov 2017 09:28:29
I think it'll end up being Meyer, although we could easily lose him to Spurs. Lemar looks Arsenal bound. Brandt will not move without guarantees we still can't give him, even if Coutinho leaves. Coric could go anywhere due to the massive amount of interest across Europe.

We could end up targeting someone completely new though. Hopefully things will become clearer in Ed002's next Shakopod.


3.) 04 Nov 2017 09:52:27
Just to add, i wish we'd just give Woodburn or Arnold shot at replacing Coutinho. It's not like we even miss him after Salah signed. He plays mostly as a forward, and we have Mane, Salah, Chamberlain, Firmino and Sturridge all good enough to start week in week out. He has played for 3 years on the wing, and we signed 2 wingers in the summer.

In midfield, we'll be fine once Lallana is fit and Keita sign, but at the minute it does look a tad unbalanced. Coutinho looks disinterested though so we're effectively playing without him already.

Arnold or Woodburn can both play on the wing or in attacking midfield; the two positions Coutinho plays. Arnold also replaces his set piece abilities. Just wish that for once we'd not block the path way of our own youngsters, and just give them a chance. Why are Meyer or Brandt better than our academy products? Because they are German? If Coutinho was playing every single game and playing a massive part in us winning games, I'd say we needed a major replacement. He isn't though. His injuries and sulking have made him seem like nothing more than squad player this season. Are Woodburn or Arnold not capable of being squad players? Delle Alli got the nod at 18 years old and it made him into the player he is today.


4.) 04 Nov 2017 09:57:34
Why do you say Lemar will join Arsenal? the guy already rejected them once, and all arsenal's efforts to get an early deal for Lemar has fallen on deaf ears both the team and the player!


5.) 04 Nov 2017 10:26:41
I think you’re right MK especially on Coutinho. I said in the summer I don’t think we’ll miss him if he goes. He’s become a problem in that he’s not as good as Salah or Mane in the wide positions and he weakens the midfield defensively if he’s played deeper. Just get as much as we can for him and move on.


6.) 04 Nov 2017 10:40:01
We could sign messi it wouldn't make a difference until we sort the goal keeper and 2 centre backs out.


7.) 04 Nov 2017 10:48:32
Also i sort of agree about coutinho MK, we have Woodburn, Kent, Ojo and Wilson all of who deserve game time and a player like Max Meyer would make no sense. He would only take away what little game time these guys were to get. We have to be brave and play them, and its not like these guys would start often or anything like that considering the would still be behind (Lallana, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Sturridge, Chamberlain in the pecking order)


8.) 04 Nov 2017 11:13:45
Meyer is not the answer to replace Cou. He simply is not good enough yet. Lemar wants to go to Arsenal unless something has changed. As for Woodie replacing Cou, he is simply not ready yet altho he can be an effective replacement in the long term even tho he is a different type of player to him.

I think Klopp wants to add more energy to our midfield which is why Keita is coming in to replace Can cos tho I love Can as a player, he at times, takes too many touches when switching defence to attack as soon as we win the ball off the press. Keita is way better than in in that regard as switching defence to attack in one movement is exactly who and what he does.

Can is a good player BUT he simply does not fit what Klopp wants to do long term and I may disagree with Klopp's thinking, I can understand his thinking as the facts bear this out.


9.) 04 Nov 2017 11:19:00
Didn't even include Solanke and Brewster!


10.) 04 Nov 2017 11:40:21
Kloppisakloon, i cannot remember which editor it was, but they said Lemar is more likely to go to Arsenal. I think our interest was more if a panic at the last minute than because we've actually scouted him. I expect Liverpool to move on to be honest.

Completely agree with you Ings and things. I'd happily accommodate Coutinho in midfield though if he wanted to be at the club. I think he'd add enough going forward to make up for his lack of defensive ability. He is pretty under rated defensively though. He gets stuck in when he is in the mood. Just a shame he's not in the mood this season.

Loris, i agree Woodburn isn't as good as Coutinho yet. He may never be to be fair, but Coutinho has played in less than half of our games this season and in half the games he's played he hasn't bothered to show up anyway! With Salah signing to replace him in the frontline, yes it would be ideal if he could play in midfield. If he leaves though, Salah has already replaced the Coutinho of the last 3 years, so it just means sadly we don't get an immediate upgrade on Lallana or Gini in midfield. I'd hardly say that was a priority anyway though. The midfield will be miles stronger when Keita signs, and we hipefully add a holding midfielder. Pluswith 12 points between us a City i think a title race is out of the question. So why not just give Arnold or Woodburn the 8 appearances in every 17 games that Coutinho has been making for the rest of this season? They might surprise us and save us a fortune! Mane and Lallana are back imminently anyway so for me Coutinho in his current form doesn't even make the starting XI after the international break. I'd rather have Woodburn or Arnold coming off the bench than the stroppy little Brazilian. At least they'd gain something from it and want to be at the club for the foreseeable future.


11.) 04 Nov 2017 12:06:10
Lallana doesn’t need an ‘upgrade’, he’s a perfectly fine player as he is. He just needs to be on the pitch helping us win matches. We have missed his energy and skill.


12.) 04 Nov 2017 13:50:42
Personally from what i have seen either brandt or lemar are musts for replacing coutinho.


 

 

29 Oct 2017 08:20:12
Quick question with Sanchez available for roughly 30 million (if reports are true) in the January window, should we not try for him? Quality player who could also play a more advanced role as well as wide if needed.

If Coutinho does leave which most of us are expecting and possibly in January then we will need a creative player. I'd love us to get Sanchez and Lemar if possible.

That would just leave the defensive issues to resolve.

Jonesred

1.) 29 Oct 2017 08:43:38
He rejected us when we tried to bring him and prefered London.


2.) 29 Oct 2017 08:50:51
Coutinho clearly still wants out so say selling him for 90-100 mill and replacing with Sanchez for 30 mill would be exceptional business. Sanchez's wages would be a sticking point but what we save on Coutinho's wages (150-200k) will go into Sanchez's reported 300k a week demands. That would leave 60 mill on top of whatever else we have to improve our defence. However as good as it sounds Sanchez to City is the likely option and we won't even test the water with as much as an equiry ourselves.


3.) 29 Oct 2017 08:55:38
I would go all out for Antoine Griezmann. Change formation to 4231.

Mane left, Bobby as a 10, Salah right and Griezmann up top?

I think we would be better off?


4.) 29 Oct 2017 08:47:55
I don't disagree that he's a great player, but i don't see the need for more forwards like Sanchez. We already have Mane, Salah, Firmino, Chamberlain, Sturridge, Lallana, Solanke, Gini, Origi, Ings, Ojo, Kent, Wilson, Woodburn, Brewster etc. All of whom can play in the front 3 in one way or another. You could argue that the first 10 in that listare good enough to be starting games in the premier league.

We have plenty to create and convert goals, with various different playing styles. Sanchez is just another forward though. Probably better than any we have except Mane, Firmino and Salah who he is just as good as. So he'd definitely add competition and cover for injury or suspension without losing any level in performance. I'd consider it if we had no glaring issues, and just wanted to make upgrades to the team.

The reason we struggle to score at times though is because our transition play is too slow. We have no link from defence to midfield because Henderson is dropping too deep and ending up alongside the centre backs, and we have only two senior players capable of properly linking attack and midfield; Coutinho who wants to leave, and Lallana who is aging and injury prone.

For me, when we sell Coutinho i would firstly like to try playing a slight variation of the 4-4-1-1 that Leicester played 2 years ago. Basically put Solanke or Sturridge up front and drop Firmino in behind as a second striker, where he played for Hoffenheim. It gives him less goal scoring responsibility so he can focus on collecting the ball from midfield and looking to be creative. To do that though we'll need to have a solid centre mid partnership. At the moment we just have decent individuals, who all do a similar job. So I'd invest the Coutinho cash into a solid defensive midfielder such as Obiang or N'Zonzi to give us options with the system, Keita is incoming anyway, and then spend the rest of it on the defence and goalkeeper situation.

No need to change an attack that has scored in pretty much every game this season with sometimes very average service. The problems lie elsewhere and the likes of Sanchez merely paper those cracks. Firmino could offer an internal solution if Coutinho left, but if not then i think Lemar would be a stellar signing because he links midfield to attack superbly, but can also cover in the attack. Not sure it's a priority though.

{Ed025's Note - "competition and cover"...your having a giraffe MK, if he went to any club in the prem he is first name on the team sheet thats for sure, he is slightly better than mane and salah and light years ahead of firmino being that he scores on a regular basis and is also a scorer of great goals, you really need to take them red spectacles off at times mate or wake up and smell the coffee at least..


5.) 29 Oct 2017 09:05:47
Mk you answered your own question in your opening segment. Yes we have all those players but like you said Sanchez is a great player. Only Mane comes close to him in my opinion.


6.) 29 Oct 2017 09:08:33
I would love Sanchez at Liverpool, he's just excellent but it isn't going to happen, we all know that.


7.) 29 Oct 2017 10:44:58
Ed has to be asked could you see Liverpool at least making an enquity in January for Sanchez?

Firstly given his contract situation (6 months left), and price.
secondly as he’s a quality player who can play a number of roles and scores a lot of goals.

and finally as we may lose Coutinho in same month.

It would be baffling to me if we didn’t at least enquire, I know people will say he rejected us before but we are a different club from then in my opinion.

It’s clear Coutinho still wants out so need to get best possible deal for him.

For me Lemar, Sanchez and Van Dijk in January would be as good a January window as the one we signed Coutinho and Sturridge.

{Ed001's Note - he turned us down to join Arsenal, it is unlikely he would be interested.}


8.) 29 Oct 2017 10:20:28
If Coutinho goes we should go for Insigne.


9.) 29 Oct 2017 10:30:19
Only Mane comes close to him? what a load of tosh. Coutinho and Salah are much younger and can easily match and overcome Alexis Sanchez current level.


10.) 29 Oct 2017 10:47:44
I don’t understand people saying he moved to London over us last time. Things change if he’s willing to sign for city then he’s happy to move the north west.


11.) 29 Oct 2017 11:11:54
Kloppisakloon the original post was regarding Sanchez replacing Coutinho hence why I never compared them. Doesn't matter what tosh anyone is talking Sanchez is a world class player. Take the tinted glasses off.


12.) 29 Oct 2017 12:05:58
Jayden, Sanchez has 2 goals this season. That is literally it in all competitions.

Mane has 3, Firmino has 7, and Salah has 9. Daniel Sturridge has 2.

Sanchez is not world class anymore. If he is, then so are the 4 guys above. 2 seasons ago I'd agree but this is a player who is nearly 29 and for me is showing signs of slowing down. Maybe he just isn't trying because he wants to leave? In which case i don't want his poor attitude around our squad anymore than i want Coutinho's poor attitude. Sanchez is definitely good enough to get in our team as a regular, and he is definitely a better goal scorer than Firmino and Sturridge despite his poor form this season in an admittedly average Arsenal team.

He isn't so much better than what we have though, that I'd sign him ahead of some defenders or a defensive midfielder.

Everyone lost their heads that we signed Chamberlain, Salah and Solanke but failed to add a centre back. Now people are asking for us to sign more attackers?

Sanchez is a top player mate, but if you think he's a priority signing, it's not other people talking tosh, to be honest with you. Sanchez would be an awful replacement for Coutinho considering we want Coutinho to play in attacking midfield. We should be targeting somebody who is a natural attacking midfielder, or looking towards dropping Firmino slightly deeper to be a second striker. Maybe even give Woodburn or Grujic a chance. Not signing more strikers and wingers to add to the 10 we already have.

Fix problems first, make luxury signings second.


13.) 29 Oct 2017 12:30:22
Mk good comment mate. However you started your argument with he is no longer a world class player and is showing signs of slowing down to then say he is a top player a paragraph down. I don't think another attacker is a priority signing mate but if Coutinho goes and Sanchez becomes available for 30 mill then that changes the situation for me. Last season he scored 24 goals and had 10 assists in 38 games. If that is him slowing down then I'd hate to see him speeding up. I totally agree with you about his attitude but I think that is the modern day footballer. If they don't get their own way then it's the fans and club who suffer. As I said further up the money left over from Coutinho going and buying Sanchez would still allow us to buy in priority positions. Again I agree with fix problems first and luxury signings second but we've had these problems for the whole time Klopp has been here and they haven't been addressed so I wouldn't hold you're breath mate. Ps my talking tosh was in reply to KIK. I respect you're opinion and although mine differs it doesn't mean either of us are right or wrong.


14.) 29 Oct 2017 09:41:22
Ed025, you're putting words into my mouth buddy. I didn't say Sanchez would be the one to miss out on starting. I clearly stated he was as good as all 3 of our current front 3 and, just said he'd give us better competition for places and stop us from suffering from a lack of quality when someone is injured. That doesn't mean he'd be there just to cover injuries. It's a squad game nowadays. All i meant is we'd have 4 top class attackers vying for 3 positions. Not once did i say he wouldn't get in our team. There would be games where he might miss out, just like he does for Arsenal sometimes, but he would be a great signing for us IF we didn't have at least 4 positions at the back which are glaring weaknesses. I'm not sure how he is first name on the team sheet though either, when he is regularly dropped by Arsenal for Welbeck or Iwobi. Sanchez is best out wide and we have Salah playing miles better than him this season, and Mane who is regarded by many as the best winger in the league, despite his stop start season.

I did make it pretty obvious that he is as good as we've got though. I'm not sure i agree that he is better than Mane or Salah (I'd say they are all pretty much equals if fit and on form), but he is very, very marginally better than Firmino in my opinion. Firmino has a better all around game and suits our style better, but Sanchez is lethal anywhere inside 30 yards.

I just don't want to see us wasting time and money trying to negotiate a deal for a player who Arsenal don't want to sell, which will clearly result in a 4 week saga of "will he, won't he" when the club should be focusing on other areas. Our transfer team are proven to be incompetent at best, so i don't want them to have any unnecessary distractions when they should be sorting out a deal for at least a centre back and a defensive midfielder.

I'm not sure if that makes my point clearer or not. Would i like Sanchez? Obviously. Is it a priority signing? Obviously not.

{Ed025's Note - i did only "quote" what you said in your original post MK, but like most things on here one player being superior to another is an opinion nothing more nothing less, i cant see us falling out over it mate..


15.) 29 Oct 2017 09:46:14
I did also say he was an upgrade to the team Ed025. It's just an upgrade that is not top of my list right now, and should not be top of the clubs list either. If we sign Sanchez and fail to add a defender again in January, this site will need a better server because the wave of abuse that will come in will be unprecedented.

Alderweireld is also in a contract dispute right now, so why not try and do a deal there? It is about as likely as the Sanchez deal is, and at least it solves a problem area!

{Ed025's Note - the thing with sanchez is that he is out of contract shortly and has expressed a wish to leave arsenal MK..


16.) 29 Oct 2017 12:54:30
It's cool Jayden. Just to clarify i think World class is a term reserved for the very best in your position. A top player is just a great player though.

Sanchez was very good at times last season but he also got dropped a few times due to his poor performance levels in periods. This season he has been poor in general. I think in a better side he still has 3-4 years left at the top of the game, but i don't see him getting 24 goals ever again. His explosiveness will fade over the next few years and if it doesn't then he is more impressive than I'm giving him credit for.

I hope nobody got me wrong. I'd love Sanchez at Liverpool. I wish we'd got him 3 years ago when Suarez left. But i want a centre back and a holding midfielder even more and our transfer negotiators are far too useless to do more than 2 deals in January!


17.) 29 Oct 2017 13:17:35
You are speaking too much sense at the moment MK Scouser, great posts man!


18.) 29 Oct 2017 13:21:58
Mk no worries mate. Totally understand what you're saying. Every comment on here is subjective and I personally believe Sanchez is one of the best in the league. That's not me saying our front 3 are crap on the other hand. Totally agree with you on our transfer team and to be honest I think it's more likely that we will not strengthen in January over buying luxury signings or priority positions.


19.) 29 Oct 2017 14:06:27
MK, I disagree. Sanchez is a world class beast of a player and you will see what he does with City cos even now playing for Arsenal, he is STILL class even tho, he is not interested in playing for them and cannot stand the sight of Wenger. This has nothing to do with how good our front three is cos the whole PL is aware of what they can do. There is a reason why teams park the bus vs us, even Utd. They are terrified of us.


20.) 29 Oct 2017 15:57:24
Point is it’s quite a rare situation to have such a quality player is available for a low fee, and who wants to leave. He’s a threat and would improve any team in the league currently in my opinion. He can cover a number of positions, scores lots of goals, and creates also.

We do have Mane, Salah and Firmino, but how many times have we lost Mane in last 12 months? A lot and it’s shown.

We on the other hand have a player who scores goals and creates who wants to leave, and possibly in the next window. The money Sanchez would cost compared to what we will receive for Coutinho gives us still a very good profit. Sorry but it’s a no brainier for me. I think he’d enjoy Klopps style of play and would flourish. 30 million is a great deal.

{Ed025's Note - i think so too jones..


21.) 29 Oct 2017 17:56:41
you are living in a fantasy world where Sanchez wants to join Liverpool, get real Jonesred, this is the real world not football manager 2016!


22.) 29 Oct 2017 18:51:29
I don’t play video games.


 

 

 

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