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28 Mar 2019 21:31:18
Can any of the Ed's confirm if there is any reported interest in Lovren from Napoli, Milan and Roma?

This has been in reports today but just wondered if you could clarify.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - The first I have heard of this and am not in a position to check as I am away. What I can say is that Milan and Roma have tentative CB targets and he would make a viable financial option. Napoli I am not so sure and rather doubt he would be a viable option if their situation changed and needed a CB. Regardless, he is experienced and generally seen as a good player.}


1.) 28 Mar 2019 21:59:41
Cheers for clearing up Ed. Much appreciated.


2.) 29 Mar 2019 00:59:14
As always, ED02, many thanks for your contribution with questions like this.

Enjoy your time away.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


3.) 29 Mar 2019 05:41:13
Personally I can't see Lovren going anywhere, not this year.


4.) 29 Mar 2019 07:18:40
Seen these rumours and while I hope he stays I wouldn't hold it against him if he would want to leave. Great back up and we might struggle to find a better back up centre back who is comfortable playing in a defence with a high line.

Ed do you know if he is looking to leave?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.)


5.) 29 Mar 2019 19:18:21
i think the main worrying stat is that lovren hasn't played more than something like 6 games in a row before being injured.

whilst i have no doubt he is a decent player we can't have a group of injury prone CB's.


6.) 29 Mar 2019 21:39:24
Have to respectfully disagree salah, Lovren is a champions league and world cup finalist he would get into plenty of top teams in the world. He gets a hard time from a lot of Liverpool fans, myself included at times, but he is a top centre back and will attract interest as he ha fallen behind gomez and arguably matip in pecking order. Will be 3rd choice for us at best next season why would he not look to go elsewhere?


7.) 30 Mar 2019 10:25:47
I agree bmena, I like him as a player mate, he's not incredible or anything but sure, he's a good player and is a good backup, I'm sure teams will be interested in him but all I meant was A. I don't see him wanting to leave and B. I don't see us wanting to sell, not yet. Who knows, it may happen but nothing suggests it will anytime soon, we all know how full of sh*t the media are.


8.) 30 Mar 2019 22:52:40
Matip undoubtedly had a good run of games. But he hasn't taken Lovren's place, in my mind. Lovren is a key player for our defense, even if he is not going to be in the first 11 week in, week out. Fitness levels permitting, he is interchangeable with Gomez, with very little fall off in quality. And fitness levels permitting, he allows, Gomez to be interchangeable with Alexander-Arnold at RB. Sure, Matip gives you the same, but i believe there is a noticeable drop off in quality.


9.) 31 Mar 2019 11:45:37
Lovren is a good player with very good attributes but concerns me he can’t play more than 6 games in a row to be more consistent we need less injury prone players .


10.) 01 Apr 2019 12:08:34
Matip is better than Lovren.

{Ed001's Note - in what way?}


11.) 01 Apr 2019 12:43:49
In the way he beat Kane to every high ball yesterday and stuck with his man rather than getting drawn to the ball, sorry tris but imo lovren is a liability and although matip looks gangly he’s very good in the air and ain’t bad at reading the game, I thought he was very good yesterday bar the one slip.

{Ed001's Note - one slip? He was out of position constantly and is far too slow, constantly giving away needless free kicks that even he got annoyed with himself for giving away. I really do not know what you saw but it was nothing like reality.}


12.) 01 Apr 2019 13:00:24
Still better than lovren though 😉, have a good day mate.

{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced but nice comeback.}


13.) 01 Apr 2019 15:11:47
In the words of Gerard Butler “this is madness”.


14.) 03 Apr 2019 00:35:51
I assume Gomez is the future, Lovren would be seen as first choice if not for injuries and Matip has covered well when he wasn't expected to play half the games he got. That said, I expect Matip to be moved on or kept one more year until his contract expires. Milner and Moreno will probably move on, as will Randall, so an investment in a left sided defender is pretty likely this summer. Personally like to see a center back come too but only if there's a worldie out there. Can't see midfield needing too much but an attacking player is needed to replace Sturridge and Origi.


 

 

09 Feb 2019 00:23:28
Lot of people talking about who will be bought for next season, but what about the youngsters and loaners?

For me most likely youngster will be one of the full backs as we have so may potentially good ones at the academy.
For me one of Lewis, Arroyo, Juanma, Gallagher, Camacho or even Hoever will be the youngster that I'd like to break into the squad.


Out of the loanees I think (which might not be a popular choice) is Grujic. I just have this sneaky feeling he will take his chance pre season.

Might not be everyone's first choices but let me know who would be choices from a loanee and a youngster.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Feb 2019 02:20:45
I really like the look of Paul Glatzel and hope he gets some game time in pre season and let's see what happens.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 10:08:36
I'd like to see how Neco Williams or Hoever would do covering right back. Just don't see Klopp prioritising a back up rightfull when there's a lot of talent at the club. Also if a centre back was brought in as competition to VVD and Gomez (de ligt the dream), it would likely be someone who could fill in at rightfull too.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 14:03:11
Wilson will rip it up for us next season imo.

{Ed025's Note - dont bank on it lerchy..


4.) 09 Feb 2019 15:54:31
I think we will cash in on Wilson next window to be honest.

I think Wilson, Ojo, Randall, Chiravella, Kent and possibly Woodburn will all be sold. I can’t see any breaking through. I think the more likely position a youngster will break through in is at full back.


5.) 09 Feb 2019 16:20:39
Any reason bout Wilson Ed025?

{Ed025's Note - i have seen quite a bit of him LN and for me he is very lightweight, the prem is a different beast to the championship mate and i think he would find it difficult..


6.) 09 Feb 2019 17:02:01
Whys that ed? And i disagree jones i've watched harry since he was a kid down prenton park and his goals have always been sublime. Id like to think he will break through next season.

{Ed025's Note - hes very good at free kicks lerchy and if you could bring him on just for them he would be an asset, the rest of his game is mediocre at best though and hes not strong enough for the prem imo mate..


7.) 09 Feb 2019 17:32:08
I understand that's always been a concern but the championship is probably as physical as the bpl for me, more tough tackles than showboating for me, also harry has been brilliant, a lot more than free kicks, he's been orchastrating well from deep and were it not for the woodwork he'd have a few more goals.

I think he gets in on the right for me with shaq benched or even cm. Definitely our brightest home grown prospect on loan currently.

{Ed001's Note - I would say the Championship is more physical.}


8.) 09 Feb 2019 17:38:15
Do you think harry will make it with us tris? I hear klopp rates him very highly.


9.) 10 Feb 2019 07:20:05
Sometimes players do need to bulk up and strengthen, just look at Sterling when he first arrived.

{Ed001's Note - sorry just saw lerchy's question so will reply to it here before I forget. I expect Wilson to be given the chance to make it, whether or not he does it up to him.}


10.) 10 Feb 2019 16:27:57
It’s hard to integrate too many youngsters in a squad that’s still capable of challenging for top honours, but maybe 2-3 will get a shot and I’d like to see

- Sturridge for Rhian Brewster
- Lallana for Harry Wilson
- Moreno for Adam Lewis.


11.) 10 Feb 2019 17:13:28
Thanks ed and agree sg, brewster is very highly rated so should be around once fit, another loan for woodburn and grujic and i think its over for ejaria, kent and ojo though we should get decent money for kent as he's had a very good season.


12.) 10 Feb 2019 21:48:38
Love that Lerchy ‘if it weren’t for the woodwork he’d have more goals’! Best line I’ve heard in ages! 😂
If it weren’t but the woodwork there would just be a net on the floor! Lol!


13.) 11 Feb 2019 05:54:38
Loved the look of Adam Lewis since I first saw him whip in a cross for the 18s. Beautiful stuff.


 

 

08 Feb 2019 23:58:27
Can anyone see Grujic coming back into the squad next season?

I think he may well take his chance and become more of a squad player. If he did I think having both Grujic and Fabinho in the squad would allow Gini a more attacking role.

I can't see Rabiot happening if it did then I'd say Grujic is as good as gone, as although Grujic, Fabinho and Rabiot aren't the same player we couldn't accommodate the three in a squad.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Feb 2019 01:09:02
I don't think Gini would be good more attacking. We need more creativity.

Keita was meant to bring that but he's struggling. Lallana shows flashes of magic but is inconsistent and will most likely go before next season. The Ox returning should help so it'll most likely be the Ox and Keita fighting for the attacking role in the midfield 3 when playing 4-3-3.

Gini is good in the role he plays. Grujic might be in with a chance if Lallana and Milner go and he's happy with a bench role.

I don't think we'll bring in Rabiot, not sure. We might just get a couple of young players if Milner, Lallana and Grujic go.

Just my opinion as with Klopp probably trying to give Keita minutes and the Ox returning I doubt we'd spend too big in a midfielder who would take their spot.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 05:53:56
Take his chance and be a squad player. can't see himbeing keen tbh.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 10:18:20
I think there could be room for Rabiot and Grujic EVENTUALLY, if we could get Rabiot in this summer and loan Grujic to a German side hopefully in europe it could work. By then the likes of Hendo and Gini will be 30 and Grujic will hopefully have established himself more. Just wouldn't give up on him yet there's a player there.


4.) 09 Feb 2019 12:47:13
The best thing for Grujic and his career would be to move on, otherwise he runs the risk of becoming the next Markovic and wasting years when he could be playing regular elsewhere. Nothing against him as a player, just don't see him becoming a first team regular.


5.) 09 Feb 2019 13:04:17
Difference between him and Markovic is Grujic has gone in and being d main man from day one in a team fighting for a european spot whereas Markovic struggled for game time wherever he went. Everyone can't be written off as a Markovic the minute they hit 22.


6.) 09 Feb 2019 14:49:08
Grujic should move on for the sake of his career. He is no Markovic, but he isn't going to get in to our side right now.


7.) 09 Feb 2019 18:15:46
I think Grujic will be sold in the summer.


 

 

30 Jan 2019 12:55:59
Ed's do you know of any progress in relation to Markovic's move to Turkey?

Also do you see Woodburn going on loan again this window?

Cheers.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any deal for LM to Turkey. BW will almost certainly go on loan.}


1.) 30 Jan 2019 18:34:24
I think Woodburn is going to be off to Hull for the rest of the season. I haven't seen Hull play this season. Are they a good fit for him?


2.) 30 Jan 2019 19:29:12
Ed002 What do you think of Woodburn?

{Ed002's Note - I have no thoughts about him at all - Ed001 would be the one to ask about young men.}


3.) 30 Jan 2019 19:56:04
Ed002 we can't ask numero uno because the length of detail he goes into about young men is quite disturbing lol.


4.) 31 Jan 2019 21:53:00
Think BW problem is that he's decent at a lot of things but not great at any of them, decent doesn't cut it at top level. His versatility is his hindrance as he gets moved around too much. Right now I see him becoming poor mans Dirk Kuyt, runner and poacher if he takes some poaching lessons from Kuyt. Maybe playing in germany should be in his future.


5.) 01 Feb 2019 02:21:28
I still think Woodburn can be fantastic for us. He just needs to regain confidence. I think he is technically superb, a fantastic finisher and has great movement. Playing for a team with the right style of play is most important and I think scoring a few goals for the u23s for the rest of the season would be best. Who knows - if he picks up some form I could genuinely see him coming off the bench in some games during the run in.


 

 

23 Jan 2019 08:49:55
Reports saying we are trying to signchelsea Hodgson Odoi any truth in this?

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - I am aware that it has been proposed that Liverpool met with Hudson-Odoi and his brother but I very much doubt it being true. Certainly Chelsea has not given permission for Liverpool to meet with the player and after reatedly tapping up players with significant costs being incurred by the club in two recent cases plus a ban for another recent case, I am sure they would not be so stupid again. As such, I would scratch this rumour.}


1.) 23 Jan 2019 11:32:57
Ed were would this rumour come from, seems crazy that anyone would even make this up. Clearly it is total crap.

{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea where it has actually come from, the fat kid from Bolton on Twitter perhaps? Bild has stated that Liverpool met with the player and his brother at the beginning of January. They have not suggested where they story comes from.}


2.) 23 Jan 2019 11:53:10
Ok mate thank you. I hope we haven’t met with the player.


3.) 23 Jan 2019 12:07:21
It has probably come from his agent so that he has a stronger hand in negotiations.


4.) 23 Jan 2019 12:29:13
Apart from the last few weeks I’ve not seen him play much. How good is he eds. he must be good if BM want to sign him. ?

{Ed001's Note - a good old-fashioned winger, who can get the ball out on the wing and put in an excellent cross with regularity.}


5.) 23 Jan 2019 12:42:35
Here we go big conspiracy here but. What if this is a fake story leaked to push Chelsea into selling to Bayern as they woulnd't want to sell to a PL club meaning Bayern would now have Odoi and move on from Werner giving us a better chance? Also the pyramids were built by aliens.


6.) 23 Jan 2019 18:14:18
I rate Hudson-Odoi, but if he’s going to move, it’s likely going to be outside of England. Personally, I’d be very surprise but wouldn’t turn my nose down if he joined us; he’s nice, direct winger.


7.) 23 Jan 2019 20:17:07
If in doubt trust what the Ed's tell you here. Only place I come to for Liverpool rumours.


8.) 24 Jan 2019 00:57:30
I very much doubt/ hope we have crossed any illegal lines with regards to the above.

May be a stupid question but at what point could an English team talk to him? Is it once his contract has expired?


9.) 24 Jan 2019 03:22:31
I think it'll happen.


10.) 24 Jan 2019 03:23:28
Chelsea don't seem to mind selling to us, good little player who could prove to provide decent cover for our wingers.


11.) 24 Jan 2019 13:37:15
Never heard of Hodgson-Odoi.


 

 

 

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14 Mar 2019 10:22:09
After a bit of a slump for some people things are looking good again. Great win last night and into the next round. Eight league games left and we are still in with a shout of the title.

If we were offered this at the start of the season we would have all gladly taken it.

This time last season we were losing players left right and centre which for me badly hindered the end of our campaign. However this year we seem to have a number of players either returning or close to return.

Gomez is due back this month which is a huge bonus for us.

Lallana was man of the match for me Sunday and hopefully he can play like that from now until the rest of the season for us. If he does it will be like having a new player.

Chamberlain although he may only get a few cameos he still could prove to be a good impact player.

Keita still to play regularly but I still think he can contribute in what's left of this season.

Jonesred

1.) 14 Mar 2019 11:28:34
Lallana is playing for his future so hopefully gives it his all to end of the season. think his time with us is done so putting himself in shop window.


2.) 14 Mar 2019 11:29:23
I think the owners expected nothing less of where we are today . and will be very disappointed if we end the season winning nothing.


3.) 14 Mar 2019 11:44:50
Was it not a slump for you?

Would you have taken this position before the City game?

People keep repeating the same thing over and over about what was expected at the start of the season. After we spent the most in Europe I am sure most of us expected min CL quarters and challenge for the league. Posters make out we are having a Leicester season. I said at the start of the season we are in the top 5 teams in Europe and we should act like it.


4.) 14 Mar 2019 12:47:23
Lallana was a brilliant player for us. He got injured and has taken a long time to recover but now he is fully fit he is proving he is still a top player.


5.) 14 Mar 2019 18:20:07
Mark, it was a slump, for sure BUT not like the slump you and the rest of the knee-jerk reactors made it out to be. Every man and his dog knows blips come and go during a season and injuries happen. It is part of the roller coaster process of a season. The main thing is to stay the course and keep fighting with the hope that things will change for the better and not let your issues completely ruin your season which by all accounts, the blip could have. That is obvious to anyone with an ounce of football knowledge.

The prob. with you and your lot is that you go OTT with knee-jerk reactions cos we did not win a game. I mean, what if we had lot to WH, Utd, Leicester and/ or Everton, what would you be saying or doing if you are losing your marbles cos we drew these games? That is the point. What would you have done had we gone 11 games w/ o a win like we did in the 2002/ 2003 season after being top of the PL? I shudder to think about it really.

The bottom line now is that in spite of our issues, NOTHING has been won or lost and even Pep knows that and has said as much. Or are you suddenly smarter than him now? I propose you take a chill pill next time this happens (cos it will) and be more measured and nuanced in your assessment. It wi;ll prevent you from always going into meltdown mode when things don't go according to plan. Peace, my friend.


6.) 14 Mar 2019 19:28:44
I don’t think it was a slump, I think it was a hangover from going out of the cups early and having a “warm weather holi. errr training camp”.

The players lost their sharpness. It was a risk by Kloppy but he knew we had a 7 point lead. Better to have a hangover now than be a busted flush with 5 games to go.
We will finish strongly and Man City need to win all their league games now.


7.) 14 Mar 2019 22:40:04
Ron, I agree with you on the whole BUT the warm weather training had NOTHING to do with the slump cos all clubs do it. Spurs just did it this week or is Poch stupid too? It was just unfortunate that during the training, VVD got sick and so did Milner. Then after we arrived, Milner got sick and Hendo and Wiji got got injured in training before the WH game. Injuries and illness can happen and warm whether training has no bearing on these occurrences.


 

 

16 Feb 2019 09:49:00
Just reading about Ozil's situation at Arsenal and thought at the right price he'd be a clever buy for Liverpool.

He's 30 but if he lowered his wages and we could sign him for a reasonable price he'd be a great buy. I think he fits Klopp sttyle excellently and I think he'd relish playing under Klopp.

They clearly want rid and we could possibly get a good deal due to his situation. He'd be an excellent feeder for Salah, Mane and Firmino.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - I suspect it may only be you with these thoughts. But Arsenal do want his £350k wages off the bill.}


1.) 16 Feb 2019 10:25:14
His attitude is poor. Not in terms of work rate on the pitch (that is a total myth) but he doesn't look after himself and stays up all hours playing video games. Not to mention how much money he demands and genuinely thinks he is worth.

If he stopped playing Fortnite and accepted a 60% wage cut, sure, I'd take him. That'll never happen though.


2.) 16 Feb 2019 10:33:52
Jonesred, I am struggling to see anything in Ozil’s game that makes you think he fits Klopp’s style perfectly. Perhaps you could explain please?


3.) 16 Feb 2019 11:58:34
I don’t think his work rate is a myth at all. When he’s not on it he disappears. He’s also a flake. Yes he can pick a pass but he’s only going to go downhill now.

{Ed001's Note - nonsense. You are talking utter bollox. He was said to not be on it in the World Cup but he created more chances than any other player, despite Germany being crap and going out early. It is a myth that he doesn't work hard and only those who don't watch him play believe that lie. He tracks back, he covers more ground than the rest of his team yet still some clueless people perpetuate this utter lie that he is lazy.}


4.) 16 Feb 2019 12:17:26
You know more about him than I do ed, I love watching him when he's on his game but it does seem that he shys away from the big matches. Is this a common misconception or is there truth in it?
Personally for the wages he wants I think we could sign someone as good or better.

{Ed001's Note - complete misconception. He is another of those players who gets uncalled for abuse over things that are simply not true. I have seen him chase back into the right back position to cover when Bellerin was caught up field, he blocked a cross and someone else picked up the loose ball and the commentator said about how well the guy who picked up the loose ball had done to win it back! When the ball was passed back to Ozil, the commentator just expressed surprise that Ozil had come so deep to pick up the ball. He will never get the credit he deserves.

If you give him movement to pick out, then he will pick it out. His problem is the team around him have not been good enough since he left Madrid. He still manages to create huge amounts of chances, even when Arsenal would miss easy chances galore he was racking up assists. I just don't get what people want from him. They seem to think he should play the Kante role as well or he is being lazy. No one said Bergkamp was being lazy when he didn't chase back and Ozil is even more creative than Bergkamp in terms of numbers of chances. Yet all he gets is abuse.

I have often wondered if he would get the same stick if he didn't look a bit odd.}


5.) 16 Feb 2019 12:26:54
Ed01, looks like the perpetuation about that "utter lie" about Ozil not tracking back, by the media has worked a treat cos a lot of people seem to have bought that poor excuse of a talking point. I saw Ozil tracking back a tonne when we played them at the Emirates this season and in many other games over the years. Now does he go missing in certain games? Of course BUT who doesn't?

The media has made Ozil the scapegoat for all their problems. As if he is the reason their defence is crap or the reason why the reason they have slow starts to games. Here's another thing. If Ozil was as lazy as he is purported to be, how was he able to get near 90 caps for Germany, all under Jochim Lowe, who is a no shrinking violet? Just asking for a friend.

{Ed001's Note - I just don't get why so many have it in for Ozil. It is like the stick Henderson gets, 99.9999% of the time it has no basis in reality.}


6.) 16 Feb 2019 12:30:51
High intensity sprints are the true stat not distance covered. The guys is like sturridge he knows its now expected of him so he tries to fake it, he's always just too late just too short to actually get there or he manages to get halfway there then the ball goes past him and he gets his excuse to walk. I'll never question his ability but seeing something nobody else does doesn't always make you the genius sometimes it makes you the fool.

{Ed001's Note - such a load of nonsense. So how do you make up more bull**** stats to deny he creates so many chances when he plays? I mean the guy is just too late and too short but still creates so much, must be magic then? A guy walking back after the ball goes past him is normal for an attacking player, or even defensive players a lot of the time. High intensity sprints are only relevant in certain contexts. I suppose you must have hated Xavi too? I mean he barely sprinted in his life.}


7.) 16 Feb 2019 12:50:57
I'd love us to sign Ozil but I think the wages would be the death knell to any chance of that. Great player, superbly creative, I think he'd be incredible in our team.


8.) 16 Feb 2019 12:54:56
I have also tried to make a post about Ozil, about he has been a favourites for Eds but obviously he is at the trough of his career.
So what happened to him now? Do Eds think he is coming back strong? And if money is not a problem, do Eds want the current him to be in the liverpool team?

{Ed001's Note - he is a victim of Emery's inability to deal with personalities and egos. Throughout his career Emery has alienated star players and frozen them out. Except at PSG, when he was not allowed to drop Mbappe, Neymar, Cavani. Whether Emery has the ability to get anything out of him or not is a different matter, his team selections and tactics are odd to say the least.

Who would he replace in the Liverpool team? Maybe to play the role that Shaqiri does I would have him, yes. He has so much creativity you have to find ways to get the team to suit him. It is just that I would not want to break up a team that is top of the league. You don't fix something that isn't broke.}


9.) 16 Feb 2019 12:56:12
All fans need a Scapegoat I think Ed. Much better player than Ramsey yet some fans were frothing over him.
I hope he gets a move somewhere where he is appreciated.

{Ed001's Note - it is a shame that Arsenal fans don't appreciate what they have.}


10.) 16 Feb 2019 13:37:01
Personally I’d have him and Shaqiri competing for the same role and alternate them depending form etc. Think he would be a very clever buy and I don’t think his arrival would upset the squad if he arrived in the summer.

Lallana leaves Ozil replacing him in squad. He has great passing ability and a good free kick taker. If they want rid so badly hopefully we could snatch him at a reasonable price. Wages an issue yes but he won’t get what he’s on now at most clubs to be honest.


11.) 16 Feb 2019 13:44:51
Sorry, I don't have time to read the full thread but I'd love him to join Liverpool, people talk sh*t about him constantly and it's wrong because if he's watched properly he's a bloody fantastic player. People just miss what he offers, like eople miss what Firmino and Hendo offer, two people there who are vital cogs in our team. These days it seems all people pay attention to is goals scored and goals assisted, when there's much more to a game of football then that! Whatever the wages, I'd have him immediately, he's a quality player.


12.) 16 Feb 2019 13:59:08
Perhaps there's a perception of him following that game at Anfield where he went missing. Did we score 4 in the first 20 minutes or something? Anyway, Ozil didn't perform and I think we have an impression of him from that game, however he was specifically targeted by us and by other teams exactly because he is a great player. By stopping him you could also stop Arsenal.


13.) 16 Feb 2019 13:25:23
Good god no! Fairweather player, great when the sun's shining and your 3-0 up, when you have to dig in and battle he's anonymous.


14.) 16 Feb 2019 14:52:09
Not getting into whether an Arsenal player is lazy or not. I used to think he was a great player and would have jumped at the chance to sign him but not anymore. He will be 31 in October and I think we can do better. You can argue the Arsenal team aren't him isn't good enough but if so, he'd have realised that himself yet still signed the last few years of his career away for the big pay cheque instead of going to a team challenging for titles and getting less wages.


15.) 16 Feb 2019 15:00:10
I like him, he was brilliant at Madrid and although he’s had a tough 18 months he has done pretty well at Arsenal. I think Klopp could get a tune out of him but he would be a risk and one only worth taking if he was on less than half of his current wage.


16.) 16 Feb 2019 17:29:45
thanks ed001 for the reply on Emery
appreciate your time.
so maybe one day Aubameyang would be his new problem?

{Ed001's Note - more than likely.}


17.) 16 Feb 2019 18:32:35
Ed01, I was reading an interview with Pep Lijnders on the LFC website earlier today. Pep says that when looking at potential players for Liverpool, character and attitude come even before talent. I wouldn’t dream of claiming to know more than you about Ozil’s ability, talent and even his work rate but do you think he still has the character and attitude to be a useful member of the Liverpool squad? For what it’s worth, in my opinion he doesn’t.

{Ed001's Note - no idea.}


18.) 17 Feb 2019 09:28:16
He was brilliant at Madrid, even C Ronaldo said so and threw a massive paddy when Ozil was sold.

{Ed001's Note - the fans adored him there as well Ron. For months after he was sold they chanted his name.}


19.) 17 Feb 2019 13:40:55
We can't afford him and I don't see klopp signing a 30 Yr old on such high wages. Won't happen. I think it's the fact that often he doesn't "turn up" to the games gifting him the label "lazy"

When he's on it he is a real nice player to watch. Always seemed to play better for Germany than arsenal. Maybe that is something to do with the lack of genuine quality around him at arsenal these last 4 yrs.


 

 

16 Feb 2019 09:30:05
I don't think we should be expecting so many expensive new signings this summer I think some will be replaced by youngsters already at the club, and maybe one or two big money signings at most. That isn't to say some on lower fees wouldn't arrive.

We have so much quality waiting to break though that between now and August I think the odd youngster is already being considered to replace some first teasers known to be leaving.

In terms of full back we know Moreno, Randall and Clyne will depart. However we have Hoever, Camacho, Lewis, Ayorro, Gallagher and Juanma waiting in the wings. I think full back is the most likely position a youngster comes through.

We also are expecting Origi, Sturridge, Lallana, Mignolet and possibly Milner to leave. I think it is here the bigger sums will be spent on players. Werner maybe with Brewster as a reserve?

In terms of midfield we've been linked with so many, plus we have Keita to hit form, and Chamberlain to come back.

Out of the linked players there's already Felix, Brandt, Fekir, Rabiot, Dembele etc. I think departures may determine who if any sign.

Keeper will be most tricky as it will be someone expected to sit the bench most of the season.

Jonesred

1.) 16 Feb 2019 09:50:03
Teamers not teasers.


2.) 16 Feb 2019 10:08:26
I think depending on who leaves, the HG quota will also play a part in who we look at bringing in.


3.) 16 Feb 2019 11:32:08
I know it’s a cliche but some new faces are always needed. Just look how Gini has reacted to it. It’s the competition that stretches the existing players.

We have enough youngsters coming through. I’d like to see an experienced player come in and give us 2-3 seasons. Maybe CB coverage.


4.) 16 Feb 2019 11:51:04
I think regarding the HG quota it appears that we will be promoting academy players up to replace those outgoing rather than spend £30-40 million on a HG player (Bournemouth paying for Solanke is a good example of wasted money for HG) . Sturridge, Milner, Lallana and Moreno can/ will be replaced by Wilson, Brewster, Woodburn and Adam Lewis etc etc. It will be great to see the academy players in with a shot of making the first team squad.


5.) 16 Feb 2019 11:55:54
I think James maddison would be a great buy.


6.) 16 Feb 2019 12:29:08
Red911, James Maddison has to show that he can hack it at the PL level for a few more years before he can claim to make the step up to a title challenger CL contender, which we currently are. No more one season wonders, I'm afraid. We of all people know how badly those types of signings can go.

{Ed001's Note - I said James Maddison was special last season mate, he is good enough. I got a fair amount of stick for putting him in my top 10 attacking midfielders, but I stand by that, the lad is class.}


7.) 16 Feb 2019 13:06:00
Buying players should be about ability not how long they've played or how old they, he would fit the way we play .

Better than over paying for foreign player who haven't played in the premier league.


8.) 16 Feb 2019 13:40:36
We really will win things won't we having a load of academy players on the bench versus City's quality experienced players won't we?

Why don't people think before they open their mouths.


9.) 16 Feb 2019 13:30:27
What we spend depends on which of the front three players leave and when, keep the squad together and I'd be shocked if we spent more than £40 million, keep the squad together and really strengthen with a top class centre half right back and attacking midfielder then as I've said previously I'd thaw a little towards the club's owners, but that won't happen.


10.) 16 Feb 2019 14:08:50
Maddison is good but David Brooke is better.


11.) 16 Feb 2019 14:58:32
City have a few academy players in their squad aswel Hessle like Foden and Zinchenko, and Pep may well bring a couple more through over the next few years. im all for going for top players to help us compete but the likes of Sturridge, Lallana, Origi, Moreno and Mugs hardly need a load of cash being spent by the club to replace now do they.


12.) 16 Feb 2019 16:04:22
Just my take on that I see it as fragments as in ones certain to leave ones likely to leave so I’d say.

Moreno. Juanma, Gallagher, Lewis (one of) to replace.

Clyne. Camacho, Ayorro or Hoever (one of) to replace.

Lallana. Wilson, Grujic or a new signing (one of) to replace.

Sturridge. Werner (possibly) to replace.

Origi. Brewster to replace.

Mignolet. New signing to replace.

I’d say above are definite departures, and below some maybes.

Milner. Grujic, Wilson or new signing to replace.

Matip or Lovren. New signing to replace. (We’d all love De Ligt but don’t see it) .

Then there’s a cluster of youngsters who will likely be moved on next window such as Randall, Kent, Ejaria, Ojo, Chiravella, Woodburn (possibly) and maybe Wilson.


13.) 16 Feb 2019 19:17:54
That sounds about right Jonesred.

A couple of tweaks:

I think we may get a firs team RB to allow TAA some chances in midfield too. I reckon Wan Bissaka would be ideal.

I’d also throw Alderwereild into the mix for CB. I reckon one of Matip or Lovren will definitely leave this summer.

I also think Milner will (sadly) go to Leeds. I think Rabiot on a free will come in.

Grujic may go depending on preseason. I’d like to see both Wilson and Kent stay with us and be bench options alongside Werner next season.

So, Werner, Alderwereild, new Gk (probably older), Wan Bissaka and Rabiot for me this summer.

A large clear out and we, ’re probably looking at a net spend of a lot less than £50m, imho.


14.) 16 Feb 2019 22:00:56
Waro, if the the club got a center half, right back and attacking mid for 40 million I bet you would be calling the owners cheap.


15.) 17 Feb 2019 09:05:22
I think Waro is talking of net spend, AussieMark.


16.) 17 Feb 2019 13:41:50
I think we will see 2/ 3 big signings. Add when you're strong.


 

 

09 Feb 2019 00:09:47
We currently have so many young but potentially good full backs in the academy such as

Arroyo.
Camacho.
Gallagher.
Lewis.
Juanma.
Hoever.

Hopefully we will see one of these break through next year, and save us the problem of finding one.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Feb 2019 04:15:37
Juanma will be released and arroyo will be loan again next season all least due to work permit issue.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 08:27:20
Arguably Hoever's future lies at centre half and Cam's on the wing. I'd love all those to come through, but we're still thin on cover at full back even if they all did.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 09:21:31
Hoever will need to grow about 6 inches if he’s going to make it as a centre back.


4.) 09 Feb 2019 12:04:35
Hoever is a CB. He will be A Wc cb one day but he needs easing in, won't be for a couple of years. Skillful, confident and wouldn't look out of place at the play park.


 

 

08 Feb 2019 18:54:39
You have to give credit to the owners for how they have truly turned us around.

Record profits

Runners up in CL last season.

Currently in title race.

We are now great with our sales of players, maximising profit.

Top manager.

Quality squad.

Gotta say this is all down to our owners they have done excellent.

Jonesred

{Ed025's Note - i have been saying that for a while jonesy, they have taken a bit of stick on here though and for the life of me cant understand why..


1.) 08 Feb 2019 19:24:23
I said this a few weeks ago with mixed views. I think they have transformed the club.


2.) 08 Feb 2019 19:49:32
One league cup in 8 and a bit seasons?


3.) 08 Feb 2019 20:19:45
Somewhere, Waro has just had to lie down in a darkened room. I'll support anyone who takes us closer to winning the league for the first time since i started supporting Liverpool.


4.) 08 Feb 2019 20:22:47
Sorry all, I couldn’t resist biting.
FSG have massively upped their game over the past three seasons I’d say.
Prior to that they were all over the place.
But it still remains an ideal to have an ownership model of the German or Basque variety.
Of the people by the people for the people.

{Ed025's Note - that line if from the gettysburg address juicer which is as american as you get mate, FSG have been brilliant for liverpool mate..


5.) 08 Feb 2019 21:13:43
@ the juicer, yes 1 league cup won, but a champions eagle final, a europa league final, another league cup final and an Fa cup final, one game away from all of those trophies and about 2 games away from the PL. I don’t think that it’s the owners fault we’ve fallen at the final hurdle in every single major competition, if they were that bad we wouldn’t have been anywhere near those things. They’ve been unlucky, they could have been the owners that won everything possible in next to no time mate.


6.) 08 Feb 2019 22:06:33
Ed25.

Clearly there’s a few on here that don’t know the previous ownership and the history of our club.

Moore’s and Parry held the club back for years, whilst gillet and hicks nearly went the club under.

{Ed025's Note - then its about time they learned drogie, these guys have bent over backwards as far as im concerned mate..


7.) 08 Feb 2019 22:12:49
My turn to pipe up. The owners have done wonders last few seasons. But it's to no avail.
The reality is we have won nothing and won't. We are just the new arsenal that will finish top four every season.
I am of the opinion the owners and klopp have taken us as far as they can.
Time for the owners to step down get us some new owners that can push us further.
Klopp and the owners need to be commended for getting us this far and let a new team of owners and manager to push us to the next level.

{Ed025's Note - no walter what they need is better and more informed supporters who can appreciate what FSG have done for the club mate, and who will actually back the club in their hour of need and not whine all the time when over expectations are not met and cry like little pussies....have you got a mirror there my friend?..


8.) 08 Feb 2019 22:36:06
Embarrassing Walter.

{Ed025's Note - it is benny and unfortunately hes not the only one mate, whats up with some of your so called supporters?...or should i say spoiled brats..


9.) 08 Feb 2019 22:41:01
Lol Walter we're the opposite but you do make me laugh mate. I couldn't disagree more with you but you bring something different, keep your opinions coming, even if they are nonsense ;) . I still believe you only say this stuff to wind people up hahaha!


10.) 08 Feb 2019 22:54:31
You can’t honestly think that can you Walter? We are level on points at the top of the league with a game in hand and in the last 16 of the Champions League having been in the final last year. What next level is there to get to?
Is there another competition that only you know about?
I’m starting to think you just love getting a reaction mate.


11.) 08 Feb 2019 22:50:54
Imagine what the owners say about the fans on their website 😄.

{Ed025's Note - they probably say "that goddam walter dude is one ungrateful mother".


12.) 08 Feb 2019 22:53:13
I’m really sorry Walter but you’re clearly too young to remember our previous owners.

I’ve been following the reds home and away ( not so much away now I have a 4 year old ) since the mid 80’s.

Believe me, FSG have been pretty decent.


13.) 08 Feb 2019 22:54:06
My god neggie must be on a wind up surely or is he still waiting for arsenal to come through and win the league. Dear o dear it beggars belief sometimes ed025
Up the pool.

{Ed025's Note - it really does redan..


14.) 08 Feb 2019 22:56:44
Spot on Ed025, I'm sure your comments are a joke Walter, but the supporters who do think this way are ungrateful. FSG have spent huge sums on Van Dijk, Alisson and others and have clearly backed Klopp in the transfer market.
The team has been significantly improved where it is challenging Man City for the title, which is impressive as City must have the best squad in Europe.
It is laughable to read comments like Walters, who make it sound so simple to just get new owners and a manager to take us further. Even if we somehow found wealthier owners we would still be resticted by FFP.
Just be glad Liverpool are competitive instead of suffering the way Leeds did.

{Ed025's Note - dont forget the ground improvements as well greenflash..


15.) 08 Feb 2019 23:05:53
I can't believe this is even a topic, all you need to do is look at where we were and where we are now, no need to overthink things, that's if some 'supporters' think at all, our job is to support and inspire from the stands full stop.


16.) 08 Feb 2019 23:37:20
Our owners have been great. Klopp has got what he's asked for and I'm sure will again in the summer regardless of whether we win the league or not. Commercially we have been playing catch up for years and the club's demands for a new shirt deal only show the progress we have made under FSG and the staff they have put in place. Financials looking good today. Granted we have lost a lot of finals but we've got there the important thing is we are improving season after season under both Klopp and FSG.


17.) 08 Feb 2019 23:41:06
And I forgot new training complex and stadium improvements.


18.) 08 Feb 2019 23:48:05
Bloody hell Walter mate not sure if your being serious or just trolling, but you need to get some positivity in your life.

The worst thing we could do right now is look to new owners and management.


19.) 09 Feb 2019 00:03:41
I am 100% convinced that Walter is simply a long term troll. There can’t be any way a sensible fan of the club can read what he puts and thinks he has a point. From where we were to where we are now is approaching the limit of our current means, but to suggest that anybody short of an oil baron could come in and do more is just ludicrous. It won’t happen. Man City’s and PSG’s owners of the world aren’t just queueing up to spend billion after billion on what amounts to a prestigious past time.


20.) 09 Feb 2019 00:14:09
Walter, isn't the schtick getting old yet?

You're coming out with such nonsense that I honestly don't think you even believe most of it yourself anymore and are putting it on to see what reactions you get. Time to leave it down mate.

Who's a step-up from FSG anyway? Someone with infinite money who'll cheat FFP and pour millions? People like that are few and far between and I wouldn't want the club run like that in any case.


21.) 09 Feb 2019 00:32:50
Waro was wrong, maybe he should apologise to FSG on here lol. He doesn't deserve to bask in any glories the club have.


22.) 09 Feb 2019 00:34:18
Not me rugby, I'm as steadfast in my dislike for them as ever. If they keep the current squad together and add quality (and by that I mean top quality) then I may start to thaw toward them and forgive a lot of what's gone before. But as it stands right at this very minute, the juicer is spot on, one carling Cup under there stewardship which is simply not good enough, and be under no illusion its how they've ran the club since taking over that's yielded this poor return.


23.) 09 Feb 2019 00:50:52
I've said before that if you don't give Walter the reaction he's looking for, he may stop fishing.


24.) 09 Feb 2019 01:09:21
As far as I can see it, we have an average squad, on its day a world beating team.

How many teams reach the Champions League final?

How many teams get to February and have only lost one game?

For crying out loud, let's forget how good we should be, and how good we used to be and look at how good we actuallly are!

anyone who states we should be winning the league every year and we need to blame the board for failing is either disillousioned or on here to wind everyone up (alla Talk S*ite)


As i said last post stop the negative but urge the positive. Get the pilgramidge to Liverpool booked for the PL trophy win, we are going good, yes we could be playing better but look at where we have been and where we are going, keep the momentum going and the good times will return.


Winning is in the eye of the believer,


25.) 09 Feb 2019 01:33:04
For me it is really simple. We have increasingly stable and sustainable finances, settled on a management structure that is working and have developed a top squad that is showing it can compete regularly for silverware. That is a massive step forward conpared to where we were prior.

I think the trophy argument is short sighted really. Whilst we all want a trophy, I'm buying in to the long game which is to be like City, Barcelona etx and regular competing for titles year in year out. Last CL runners-up, this year back into CL knockout phase, title run this year. How can people not appreciate the progress made under their leadership?


26.) 09 Feb 2019 01:55:49
Sorry Walter, but I have to say you are a complete troll. None of what you said came with concrete or strong suggestions, but just bashes. It's hard to not to think that you are here just to wind people up.


27.) 09 Feb 2019 02:33:15
I am sure Neggie is just a bitter Arsenal fan living his fantasies through LFC.


28.) 09 Feb 2019 04:08:51
lol the guy that wanted us to sign butland over Alison thinks the club has taken us as far as they can ( is that cos they didn't take that extra step and get who you wanted? )

now apparently we're the new arsenal but at the start of the season he could only see arsenal and city challenging for the league? makes no sense.


29.) 09 Feb 2019 05:46:52
Rather than bash Neggie for his views, perhaps give some thought to a system that allows individuals to wholly purchase and bankrupt a sporting institution and culture and then consider the irony that has permitted the stadium of Anfield to be given protected status as an Asset of Community Value yet that protection and principle does not extend to the institution that inhabits the stadium?


30.) 09 Feb 2019 07:55:45
Walter I think you need to get a hobby or a pet or something. Chill, good times are coming if not already here. Decades of domination do not happen anymore due to the strength of the league. Most fans would love to be on the ride we are on at the moment, and most of them never see their team win a thing.


31.) 09 Feb 2019 08:09:16
I think people need to give Walter a break, we all can't agree on everything can we? he speaks nonsense in my eyes but it's his nonsense and if it's what he thinks then let him think it, we can't control his way of thinking. Even though he thinks differently to the majority of us he's still a valued member of the site so deserves respect as a poster, he brings something different to the table that's for sure.

{Ed025's Note - i do like the guy salah, but he does throw in hand grenades so he cant complain when there is a bit of collateral damage mate..


32.) 09 Feb 2019 08:31:59
Lol I know what you're saying Ed25 mate.


33.) 09 Feb 2019 09:07:07
Hey guys 1st off I really do wish you guys don't think I am a troll. I like to give my opinion. Unfortunately I am not the wordssmith some of you are and I do struggle to put a better structured post.
Salah thank you for looking out for me. You are one cool dude.
All I've ever wanted is the best for Liverpool FC. I am not a betting man but I'll bet you all a ten quid charity donation that we win nothing the whole of klopps tenure.
I don't see the issue of wanting new owners, if they were to improve us. Yes the owners and klopp have improved us no end and greatful for it, but I genuinely believe they have taken us as far as they can, ie a top four team.
I am an impatient dude that wants my team to win trophy after trophy. If klopp and co can't deliver then why not hand the reigns to a team that can deliver. All the best guys I am who I am but certainly no troll and I never mean to piss people or edds off. By all accounts my friends family co workers all seem to think I am a good dude.

{Ed025's Note - im sure you are a good dude walter, but you do like to throw the odd spanner in the works mate..


34.) 09 Feb 2019 09:10:20
I doubt anybody questions his right to post and express his opinion, Mo. But to read his consistently negative views for extended periods really becomes tedious (putting it mildly) . I have no idea if it's done on purpose to provoke or he simply strongly believes his views, but it's near impossible to stay quiet. He may be passionate about his views but then there are far more who believe the exact opposite with the same passion. I remember 3-4 years ago, Waro (and another poster whose name I have forgotten) were consistently "at war" on this website with many other posters and the Eds. And then things calmed down when the opposing passions subsided.

Clearly, Walter can "pipe up" with his opinion. Let the others "pipe up back".


35.) 09 Feb 2019 09:25:34
Thing is though, other people post much less negative stuff and get ripped to shreds. There’s not much consistency.


36.) 09 Feb 2019 09:31:19
Wow Walter, just Wow. Owners out? Klopp out? . I really don't know what to say about that. you should probably seek medical help.


37.) 09 Feb 2019 10:04:53
I got one thumbs up and about fifty thumbs down for my posts in a thread further down, then several thumbs up for a comment in the thread below and in this one. You take the rough with the smooth, because mostly you know its not personal, but if all your going to do is spout negative unsubstantiated nonsense constantly then people are going to get pretty peed off time after time. Saying the same old, “I want us to do well, but I just can’t see it”, garb just doesn’t wash. Nothing to back up, no talk of realistic arguments, just one liners designed to set people off on one. Sure, it gets people talking, but is this the conversation we should be having?


38.) 09 Feb 2019 10:27:35
Fair post that ra mate.

You're welcome Walter. I look forward to your positive posts when we lift that trophy mate :) .


39.) 09 Feb 2019 12:12:56
You're alright by me Walter, I appreciate you want Liverpool to win trophies etc. We are improving gradually and will no doubt do so again in the summer. Trying to find an owner who is at the same level as Man City and PSG's owners can't be easy.
It's not an excuse to say that Liverpool are always in a 4 or 5 team battle to win trophies. Barcelona and Real Madrid etc would struggle to compete with Man City over a season.
If Klopps team started dropping down the league in the next couple of seasons, or the owners stop investing in the squad then you may be right, at the moment you are over reacting.
Keep posting Walter as you make me laugh, with your Arsenal prediction being my favourite.


40.) 09 Feb 2019 13:36:56
Hahaha the arsenal prediction is my favourite too.


 

 

 

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Apparently he’s out Salah along with Firmino too, big blow.

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I think we are doubling up on Messi with that team.

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Brandt.

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Cheers for clearing up Ed. Much appreciated.

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28 Mar 2019 21:29:42
I think what everyone means is we were close to buying Fekir for a 50-60 million fee. I know Shaqiri has come in since but he could very well be sold next window as well, which would free up a space.

There’s no doubt we need to strengthen we all know that. However I can see a 50 million player arriving next window, it’s just how the windows are now.

To be honest I’m hoping for someone like Brandt, would be ideal for us and would slot into system easily.

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02 May 2019 16:53:53
I thought we played well to be honest we were just not as clinical as Barcelona were. I felt three flattered Barcelona as well though. 2-0 would have been a fairer result.

I’m hoping chamberlain starts next Tuesday and drives us forward. If we can get an early goal who knows, we’ve done it before and it’s certainly possible we can do it again. Yes they are a great team but they do have weaknesses at the back which can be exposed.

I think they will try and sit back next week to prevent this, possibly even play a back five against us.

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18 Apr 2019 16:38:18
Europe? I remember the europa final against Seville and Coutinho never even showed up, completely anonymous in that game and didn’t affect the game one jot.

He’s gone he’s not coming back and we are doing far better without him.

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I do have a feeling Brandt is our number one target this summer, would be a great signing in my opinion.

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Best we could have asked for but still no walk over.

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14 Mar 2019 10:40:42
I’d have to go with

Van Dijk.
Gomez ( before the injury he was absolute class next to Van Dijk ) .
Wijnaldum.

Fabino has been great but Wijnaldum has played much more through the season.

Jonesred