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13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?

Firmane

1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?


2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.


4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.


5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!

Firmane

1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.


 

 

24 Dec 2017 17:20:01
Liverpool linked with dani ceballos of madrid, I assume rubbish?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - It is sort of correct. Real Madrid have given permission for Dani Ceballos' representativea to approach clubs with a view to a loan before any decision about a sale can be made. The loan will require guarantees of game time. The representatives held meetings in London with Arsenal and Liverpool and have also met Roma and Inter to see what interest there is. It is difficult to see how another central midfield player could be used by Liverpool right now, particularly one on loan, without being disruptive to the team. Inter have someone else arriving so would perhaps not be keen on what is likely to be a high loan fee. Roma I don't know. Arsenal are looking for a central midfield addition in January although there preference is for someone else on a permanent deal - but just perhaps.

Ceballos was watched by Liverpool in the days of Brendan Rodgers.}


1.) 24 Dec 2017 21:29:20
He would fit perfectly in our midfield 8 next season.


2.) 24 Dec 2017 22:56:44
Ron man you were always my favourite poster on Here, recently you been so negative! Enjoy your Christmas, enjoy the dinner, enjoy the wine and please come back to us in January the good ol' Ron because I cannot deal with your negativity!


3.) 25 Dec 2017 08:51:33
Loving the new Ron keep it up and have happy Xmas and new year.


4.) 25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.


5.) 26 Dec 2017 10:37:56
Guys all I did was phrase what Ed002 implied differently.

We stockpile midfielders to a pathological degree and unless we are going to play 8 at once it is totally futile.
Grujic has yet to play a game, Lallana has been injured all season, Woodburn never gets a game, Ejaria seemed to be permanent unused sub last season, Keita is coming, plenty of people plead for a new contract for Can, we’ve just signed Oxlade Chamberlain.

We need defenders!


6.) 26 Dec 2017 14:00:26
So you've named all the midfielders who don't play, not sure how they are relevant as the majority are youngsters trying to establish themselves. That leaves Hendo, wiji, Milner, lallana, can and couts (who both look like leaving) that's not quite 8. so you think him signing on loan til the end of the year would require us to play 8 midfielders? Any excuse to moan these days Ron.


7.) 27 Dec 2017 09:31:12
Agree with Ron. Only 2 of those are youngsters and his response is including the fact that every other thread is about another midfielder we're going to sign. I guess unlike some he is joining up the site as a whole not just viewing each post in isolation. Need is for some better experienced defenders that suit what the club needs. Not another 3-4 midfielders. Personally I'd rather see an out and out natural greedy finisher before see another midfielder.


 

 

31 Aug 2017 01:07:56
few rumours about Thomas muller on loan - lemar to sign next season and muller for this?!

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19 May 2018 10:50:21
On the whole Dembele debate if we could get a loan with option to buy I think it would be great in addition to someone like fekir. He's young quick, two footed and has potential, klopp can take a real look at him and he can see if he feels he can settle in Liverpool.
General question on loan to buys, if the loan happened and a fee was agreed at the start, can the selling club to chose to sell elsewhere even if the buying club wanted to go forward? Like what if he came and was excellent, and someone else wanted him, and were prepared to pay more? Is the contract binding to the buying club?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona are not looking for a loan with an "option" to buy. They would be looking for a loan with a commitment to buy as they want the money they paid back - and as the significantly overpaid, that is a tough call.}


1.) 19 May 2018 11:14:07
There is no way he is a €100 mill player. For that kind of sum we could buy anyone! Barcelona overpaid and now they want their new money back.


2.) 19 May 2018 11:29:57
Then we can get Dembele on loan with an option to buy next season and pay for Fekir this season?


3.) 19 May 2018 11:44:27
There’s no way he was worth what they paid, Dortmund did well to extract that fee. Plus we have seen first hand with Sturridge and Owen how bad a recurring hamstring injury can be and given how quickly he knacked his hamstring after returning from the same injury, it leaves a huge question mark.


4.) 19 May 2018 11:54:30
Dembele isn't worth what Barcelona shelled out for him, no way we are paying that amount with an agreement after the loan. Might as well forget it, tbh do we really need him?


5.) 19 May 2018 11:57:41
That's where the sticking point will be, if it's a €100 million commitment to buy then Barcelona will do well to get anyone to bite, when you consider that he would not necessarily be a starter for us I just can't see it happening.


6.) 19 May 2018 12:17:00
I think Klopp will go big for Pulisic if that becomes possible, but not for Dembele.


7.) 19 May 2018 11:20:55
A commitment for someone else to buy and significantly overpay too though, Ed002?
It seems like, for once, their bargaining position is weak from the out-set?

{Ed002's Note - That is what they would like - but a straight sale would also work for them. They know that Real MAdrid have a two year plan to completely refresh the squad and Barcelona have some players they now need to move on because of their age and because they are not seen as good enough. Hence they will listen to offers for the lieks of Dembele.}


8.) 19 May 2018 11:47:46
Vak, Ed02 already said that Barcelona want a loan with a commitment to buy cos they want most or all of their money back. Sorry, that ain't going to happen cos we ain't paying 90m for Dembele so IMO, people salivating over his potential arrival need to pump the brakes.


9.) 19 May 2018 12:01:07
Thanks for that clarification ed. I’d agree it does make it a difficult call for any club interested in him. More reason to believe if Liverpool do go in for him it maybe with preparation for a big offer for one of our front three.


10.) 19 May 2018 12:54:02
Why won’t we pay that money?
Price is irrelevant.
It’s if The player improves the squad and Dembele
certainly would.
How would a team defend against the pace of Dembele, Salah and Mane?
Mouth watering.
Love our club!


11.) 19 May 2018 12:59:57
Whereas a I agree that price is irrelevant, what is relevant is that the lad has had successive hamstring injuries, which given the problems Sturridge and Owen had, would be a reason to avoid. It’s easy to defend against a player who is on the treatment table.


12.) 19 May 2018 13:10:30
Flidby, no way we will spend that amount of money on one player mate, a player many people would say we don't need.


13.) 19 May 2018 13:05:12
Ed02, would Dembele enhance our first team? Would he get a regular starting spot? Do you see us going for him irrespective of what Macca has said?

(Ps I know your trying to stay away from transfer news, sorry in advance)

Regards

Niall.

{Ed002's Note - As a replacement for Salah he would get games. I am not sure if Macca has said he is a "done deal" or not, but everyone here has been telling me that Fekir, Lemar, Maddison and many others are already "done deals".}


14.) 19 May 2018 13:12:18
If we are happy to spend 90 million, what has happened to lemar? Aren't Monaco getting the start of the mbappe money This year, will they go for a delayed payment scheme? For 90 million in sure others of that calibre would be available, Pulisic, Malcolm have been mentioned. If Barcelona want rid, then the only way we should be looking at him is if it is a cut price deal, 90 million is not the price for someone who they want gone.


15.) 19 May 2018 13:36:57
Eds answer to Niall above is enough for me to make my own mind up. "As a replacement for Salah" he would get games. Simple really.


16.) 19 May 2018 13:14:55
Surely to god the financial requirement needed Ed is beyond our reach?


17.) 19 May 2018 18:49:31
I think in light of the £142m from Coutinho and our money from a good champions league run as well as our prize money from the premier league, we are in a good position financially and the best for a very long time.

{Ed002's Note - What £142M?}


18.) 19 May 2018 19:22:16
This is why we shouldn't talk money MrShankly.


19.) 19 May 2018 19:17:04
I know you don't like talking money ed but that has been the figure in the press since he left could you disclose the fee or just say if it was lower or higher.

{Ed002's Note - Just to clarify matters:
€120,000,000 Paid in five instalments between January 2018 and June 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 25 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 50 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 75 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 100 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona qualify for the Group Stages of the 2018/19 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona win the 2018/19 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona qualify for the Group Stages of the 2019/20 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona win the 2019/20 Champions League.

FIFA Solidarity payment of 2.5% of the fees to be paid by Liverpool to Inter between January 2018 and June 2020 (first payment (calculated from the €120M and not the instalments) was actually made in March. Two further payments will be made with the amounts increased to reflect any additional payments due for appearances etc.).
FIFA Solidarity payment of 2.5% of the fees to be paid by Liverpool to Vasco de Gama between January 2018 and June 2020 (first payment (calculated from the €120M and not the instalments) was late and FIFA intervened to force Liverpool to pay the money in to ESCROW with The FA. Two further payments will be made with the amounts increased to reflect any additional payments due for appearances etc.).}


20.) 19 May 2018 20:37:13
thanks ed02 for clearing that up, your knowledge is amazing, Liverpool got an amazing deal if he does well there but I can't believe Liverpool were late making a payment.


21.) 19 May 2018 21:48:18
Flidby, money may be irrelevant BUT it still does not grow on trees and we are NOT flush with cash either so that statement is as you say, irrelevant. A football club signs a player for both football and business reasons. If both don't make sense as this one does NOT cos we don't need Dembele for that price and Salah is going nowhere, you don't do the deal. There is NOTHING mouth-watering about making a dumb deal like this except you want us to do a Pogba with Utd, one deal that they are prolly regretting as we speak. It's that simple.


22.) 20 May 2018 01:07:50
Hi ED02.Your reply to Grajac was amazing, full of insight that is very educational for those of us that come on here for such information and banter/ talk.

I know you recently had a tough time due to some ignorrant Liverpool fans, but I really hope you are not too dishartened to continue your usual input on this site.
Would love to have you back on full time like before.

Reading your insiggts and that of ED01 as well as some of the other eds is very interesting to say the least.

Thanks Again.

{Ed002's Note - It is not an issue with the Liverpool fans RK. Thanks for the kind words.}


23.) 20 May 2018 18:21:36
There's lots wrong with that post flidby, 1 money is not irrelevant and 150/ 160 mill for him and fekir looks improbable at best it would also leave nothing for the areas we need to address. 2 are we playing 3 right wingers behind mane and sticking fekir on the bench? Not a lot of it adds up. I think dembele has just become and it is being looked at as an opportunity but they money will be too much in the end.


24.) 20 May 2018 18:23:00
Kloppsred if Salah was to go next season there would be more than enough funds to pay for him 3 times over haha even so it probably wouldn’t be all up front anyway, we might pay a % at the start of the loan (barca might want to get someone in early) then more when the year is up and the deal is made permanent and then the rest in bonuses/ installments.


 

 

18 May 2018 07:39:03
I find it funny how a lot of posters say we need more strength in depth, allow rotation and still have quality, then say about Dembele being linked ah he won't get a game over our front three.
Salah mane and firmino have played a lot this season and going to the wolrld cup. We can rotate a player each week, like most if not all other big clubs do. Same with midfield. We need to add real quality, not someone who is not going to challenge the starting 11.

Firmane

1.) 18 May 2018 07:52:33
I think the fact that there are so many dembeles has people confused haha Barcelona Dembele Celtic Dembele Tottenham Dembele? A team of dembeles?


2.) 18 May 2018 08:06:45
"we all dream of a team of Dembeles, a team of Dembeles, a team of Dembeles"

Well, that's the song sorted!

One of the Eds (I think 002) said that he was Klopp's preferred option over Mane.

I said a couple of days ago that I would be extremely happy for us to buy First 11 improvements, even if they displace established players, as that only makes the team stronger.

Trust in Klopp.


3.) 18 May 2018 10:41:00
As another poster has stated, I’d probably hope it’s spurs Dembele, it’s been made clear we’re after a versatile attacker, surely that’s Fekir? Of course they could be a list of potential targets not a list of everyone we want to have. Spurs Dembele would surely strengthen our midfield.


 

 

16 May 2018 17:56:22
Not Liverpool related but I don't think there's an England banter page.
What's everyone's strongest lineup for Russia?
I think vardy should start, as should Kane alli and sterling, but don't see how they all fit in without playing vardy wide. I'd like to see a 3-5-2 with maybe vardy and Kane up too, sterling at 10, hendo and Alli in the middle and not even sure who the full backs are? I guess from what Southgate has done recently he sees walker as his rcb and Cahill and smalling as the other two. I'd pick taa over trippier but don't think Southgate would. Also picking between young and Rose is hard as both are pretty bad, but have to give it to rose, what happened to Bertrand.
I'd argue with myself that alli should be out for a proper cm as he's very attacking, but think he can produce something and can't for the life of me being myself to pick Livermore - maybe reluctantly dier instead?

Firmane

{Ed0333's Note - I mean this with the greatest of respect but you just reaffirmed how boring international football is. Now I know how people who are not into sports feel like.


1.) 16 May 2018 18:31:35
I'm reminded of a scene from Men Behaving Badly (Google it, younger ones! )

"blah blah blah blah".

"Or is that just b****ox, Les? "

:D:D:D.


2.) 16 May 2018 20:22:26
" That was good lard"


3.) 16 May 2018 21:38:04
Zzzzzzzzz really couldn't care less, hope fans stay away due to the Russian ultras, and hope the whole thing is a big letdown, FIFA tosspots.


4.) 16 May 2018 21:53:25
Can't be arsed about the World Cup, just hoping for no injuries to our players and that they play well for their countries.

Might be a good experience for TAA although I doubt he'll get any minutes.


5.) 16 May 2018 22:28:30
England have be awful recently, but come the first game I will be willing them on! If they can produce anything it will be better than years gone by, and people only have this attitude because they haven't. If they fight and play well people will watch and be interested. Hopefully this is a young hungry squad, I just fear it will be all more of the same.


6.) 16 May 2018 22:48:48
Said this yesterday on here. WHO CARES ABOUT ENGLAND. come on Egypt!


7.) 16 May 2018 23:13:24
We may be calling it boring now but once the world cup kicks off we will soon forget our club sides. Albeit only for a few weeks.

I don't know who should start but kane will that's for certain and where there's Harry there is Ali. I think vardy will make a fantastic sub when defences are tired. I actually think Harry and sterling is our best top two.


8.) 16 May 2018 23:54:21
Its the world cup, you have to be excited about it if you love football . I am not an England supporter but hope we'll do well, will be good for the country.
I would go with Pope, any 2 of the center backs (sorry but they all as bad as each other) ; with Young and Walker either side. Henderson and Delph to protect the back with either going forward when needed. then a line of three, Sterling and Rashford either side of Alli and Kane up front. Do hope Trent get some world cup minutes.


9.) 16 May 2018 23:34:48
Sorry ed, I did wonder if my reply would get through. I meant it as a joke and didn't mean to cause any offence. You're opinion is greatly valued.


 

 

13 May 2018 17:09:06
Have to say I have been wanting us to try a striker with the front three and I loved it! It wasn't over crowded, mane and Salah still found space in behind and thought solanke played really well, so pleased for him. Genuinely think next season at home we would be better placed to start a striker with firmino behind.

Firmane

1.) 13 May 2018 17:40:11
i really liked it too. Upgrade wini with keita and buy an expericanced striker in his peak and rotate him with solanke. But we're probably going to sign another attacking midfielder rather than a natural striker. I would of course like both.


2.) 13 May 2018 17:56:36
I’m sorry, don’t go overboard about Solanke after a game against a team already on holiday. He’s got potential but has a lot to do to even have a chance of a regular place. Klopp will quite rightly add more class to the midfield and I’m not sure Lallana will be a part of that next season either. His twists and turns slow the play down and frustrate players making runs,


3.) 13 May 2018 17:59:41
If someone like fekir comes in we could still play firmino up top. Just nice to see a change in formation work. Not like the 3 at the back.


4.) 13 May 2018 18:53:18
Firmane, I thought of you when I saw the formation cause it's like the 532 you suggested but with the extra centre back as a striker instead. Worked really nicely and could do really well having an extra attacker in there against the teams that sit and don't want to try to attack very much. The good thing was it didn't seem like the guys were any less effective for having Solanke about and he caused Brighton problems having an extra player to think about. I wouldn't play it when we have to spring counters against higher calibre teams, but for opponents like today's it worked really well.


5.) 13 May 2018 19:09:00
Think I suggested more a 5-2-3 but yeah I don't see the need for three simile cms when the team just sits back, may as well put someone like solanke who can score and hold up and bring others in.


6.) 13 May 2018 19:49:23
Sorry that's what i meant mate. Good shout anyway worked well today.


7.) 13 May 2018 22:55:12
We can fully play a 4-2-3-1, it'd be my preferred line-up tbh! Ox, lallana, firmino, keita, fekir (if! ) can all play that CAM spot then we have the engines behind in milner, gini, hendo, and keita. Rekon the two man midfield gives us more balance and better shape.


 

 

11 May 2018 23:50:44
I saw someone mention khedira the other day, and tbh I'd love him. Yes he is not as good as he was but he's won it all and could easily do a job still. Invaluable experience and ideal to bring on last ten to hold a lead instead of an extra CB.

Firmane

{Ed0333's Note - if you love Khedira and his wife loves him too won’t that be a little awkward? Are you planning on telling your beloved about these feelings. Do you blow kisses at the TV when he plays? So let me get this right you want us to sign Sami so we can bring him on for the last 10 minutes of games?..You wanna spend all that money on a player you would only play for the last 10 mins? You are joking right?


1.) 12 May 2018 02:11:27
He simply cannot do a job and why they are happy letting him go! If you want to bring in someone from Juventus,
It should be Pjanic.


2.) 12 May 2018 02:11:05
Eveerytime I've seen khedeira I've been impressed by him. Wouldn't mind him being a part of the midfielders rotation.


3.) 12 May 2018 07:35:57
I really rate him, he’s a much better version of Can. That being said he’s 31 and doesn’t have a great injury record, I would like him as a squad player, similar to the Klaven role but he’s not going to want a role like that and the wages he would want wouldn’t merit that role.

{Ed001's Note - I don't understand this. What is so good about Khedira?}


4.) 12 May 2018 07:38:46
I have no name- Khedira can’t do a job? Your deluded if you think this.


5.) 12 May 2018 08:10:10
Lots of players impress me from time to time.
Doesn't mean they're good enough to play for Liverpool though.


6.) 12 May 2018 08:17:32
Regardless of who it is, this is the type of player I think we need to help us close out games where we have a narrow lead - someone with bags of experience and quality who is in the latter stage of their career. Finding someone who is prepared to do that job won’t be easy though and I guess Khedira may not be ready for reduced playing time just yet.


7.) 12 May 2018 09:01:41
Khedira is so injury prone it isn’t worth considering him.


8.) 12 May 2018 09:35:41
I didn't mean just then, he can of course start games as well! Also, don't think he'd cost a bomb at his age, just if juve were willing to let him go.


9.) 12 May 2018 09:51:03
A 31 year old vetran who is struggling in the slowest league of Europe won’t survive the very first training session under Klopp!


10.) 12 May 2018 12:31:39
I have rated Khedira since his days at Stugart and with the German U-21's (alongside Hummels, Neuer, Boateng, Ozil, Kroos etc) who won the Euro's beating England in the final in 2009. He was a good player and when he went to RM, he was class. That Khedira no longer exists. His injuries have slowed him down massively hence, he went to Italy, a slower league for that reason. Khedira is not an option and CANNOT play the system we play. Players like Keita, Jorginho or Ndidi either play in the same system as Klopp at their clubs OR have PL exp. like Ndidi. Khedira would not last a training session under Klopp. Why? He is older and slower than he once was.


 

 

 

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24 May 2018 07:48:10
It's a shame that with the shortened window, it's less likely chiravella will get a shot to prove himself.

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21 May 2018 23:14:58
I have wondered about mbappe if he will ever reach his potential playing in the French league. I think one of the eds has said he may well end up at Madrid, but he needs to be tested.

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21 May 2018 23:13:13
What on earth does he dresses to the right mean?

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{Ed002's Note - Jolly Gosh, I thought all of the Brits would understand that.}


 

 

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16 May 2018 07:54:36
Surely neither were likely to play or even go in the final squad, you normally take three and neuer and ter Stegen will be first choice. Leno will be third and likely not even play.

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15 May 2018 17:29:55
The football may be poor but it's physical and he needs that adult test, he's another that still looks like a boy and needs to learn how to beat men.

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25 May 2018 10:40:22
Luckily she will probably never get the chance to ask you to do the Sam.

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24 May 2018 22:56:15
Win every game? One will do for me!

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24 May 2018 17:15:49
They get their accounts done free too as a bonus.

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22 May 2018 17:35:22
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21 May 2018 23:17:41
I know Neymar is quality but are Madrid not put off by the huge amount of baggage he comes with? From their point of view is think Salah is a better prospect.

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