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17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}


1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}


2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.


3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.


4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}


5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}


6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}


7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.


8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!


 

 

13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?

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1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?


2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.


4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.


5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!

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1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.


 

 

24 Dec 2017 17:20:01
Liverpool linked with dani ceballos of madrid, I assume rubbish?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - It is sort of correct. Real Madrid have given permission for Dani Ceballos' representativea to approach clubs with a view to a loan before any decision about a sale can be made. The loan will require guarantees of game time. The representatives held meetings in London with Arsenal and Liverpool and have also met Roma and Inter to see what interest there is. It is difficult to see how another central midfield player could be used by Liverpool right now, particularly one on loan, without being disruptive to the team. Inter have someone else arriving so would perhaps not be keen on what is likely to be a high loan fee. Roma I don't know. Arsenal are looking for a central midfield addition in January although there preference is for someone else on a permanent deal - but just perhaps.

Ceballos was watched by Liverpool in the days of Brendan Rodgers.}


1.) 24 Dec 2017 21:29:20
He would fit perfectly in our midfield 8 next season.


2.) 24 Dec 2017 22:56:44
Ron man you were always my favourite poster on Here, recently you been so negative! Enjoy your Christmas, enjoy the dinner, enjoy the wine and please come back to us in January the good ol' Ron because I cannot deal with your negativity!


3.) 25 Dec 2017 08:51:33
Loving the new Ron keep it up and have happy Xmas and new year.


4.) 25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.


5.) 26 Dec 2017 10:37:56
Guys all I did was phrase what Ed002 implied differently.

We stockpile midfielders to a pathological degree and unless we are going to play 8 at once it is totally futile.
Grujic has yet to play a game, Lallana has been injured all season, Woodburn never gets a game, Ejaria seemed to be permanent unused sub last season, Keita is coming, plenty of people plead for a new contract for Can, we’ve just signed Oxlade Chamberlain.

We need defenders!


6.) 26 Dec 2017 14:00:26
So you've named all the midfielders who don't play, not sure how they are relevant as the majority are youngsters trying to establish themselves. That leaves Hendo, wiji, Milner, lallana, can and couts (who both look like leaving) that's not quite 8. so you think him signing on loan til the end of the year would require us to play 8 midfielders? Any excuse to moan these days Ron.


7.) 27 Dec 2017 09:31:12
Agree with Ron. Only 2 of those are youngsters and his response is including the fact that every other thread is about another midfielder we're going to sign. I guess unlike some he is joining up the site as a whole not just viewing each post in isolation. Need is for some better experienced defenders that suit what the club needs. Not another 3-4 midfielders. Personally I'd rather see an out and out natural greedy finisher before see another midfielder.


 

 

31 Aug 2017 01:07:56
few rumours about Thomas muller on loan - lemar to sign next season and muller for this?!

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08 Dec 2019 23:52:18
Random thought, is James Milner the only current player in the premier league to have won all domestic trophies and a CL?

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1.) 09 Dec 2019 00:43:58
Look up the definition of O. G and you will see Milner.


2.) 09 Dec 2019 04:22:09
Juan mata pretty sure has won it all and could throw in a few international honours.
Maybe Pedro at Chelsea? Bravo at City? Both won CL with Barcelona.


3.) 09 Dec 2019 04:36:05
Gary Cahill still plays for Palace. He has won all those listed.


4.) 09 Dec 2019 04:48:01
When you look at that Chelsea team David Luis and Juan Mata also had good trophy hauls.


 

 

07 Dec 2019 19:29:23
How many premier league games do we miss whilst at the club World Cup?

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1.) 07 Dec 2019 20:13:09
It seems to be only be 1: The fixture played on the weekend of the 21st / 22nd.

Man City and Leicester play each other that round.


2.) 07 Dec 2019 20:18:00
One game I think that’s the West Ham game but not sure.


3.) 07 Dec 2019 20:02:40
Just one, I believe.


4.) 07 Dec 2019 20:03:21
Just one. West Ham game on the 21st has been postponed.


5.) 08 Dec 2019 00:21:58
It's a good weekend for us to miss a fixture with city vs Leicester meaning one if not both of them will drop points while we keep a game in hand. If we win next week we will be very much still in control. I was worried a few weeks back that if we had just a couple of points lead that this ganeweek may give our challengers a chance to put pressure on us by closing a gap despite our game in hand.


6.) 08 Dec 2019 14:44:14
Spot on, Har_red92. If we were ever going to miss a weekend in the PL, I am chuffed it is that one. With the way the City/ LC game could go, we could actually "win" w/ o even playing. Fingers crossed.


 

 

12 Nov 2019 18:27:28
Just watched that Inside Anfield short film on YouTube. I’m quite amazed the teams on arrive an hour and ten before the game and do 30 mins warm up. I assume they would do briefing elsewhere beforehand, but it doesn’t seem long, our local team turn up an hour before.

Do they do other warm ups at melwood or something, again I assume they will meet early for food and tactics like I mentioned.

Firmane

1.) 12 Nov 2019 18:51:23
They stay at a hotel in town the night before and presumably have their briefings in one of the meeting rooms there, then it’s the bus straight to the ground as far as I know.


2.) 12 Nov 2019 20:58:39
You can warm up too much. THe sports science nerds will have got the pre-game prep down to an art by now.


3.) 12 Nov 2019 21:39:06
Yeah I’m sure you can, but I’d still expect more than half an hour with getting warm stretching and ball work.


4.) 13 Nov 2019 05:41:39
It seems to be working for them, I'd trust the scientists on this one.


5.) 13 Nov 2019 08:37:24
Train smarter not harder!


 

 

31 Oct 2019 18:31:59
Reports saying we’re discussing the possibility of playing one team in the carabao cup on the same day the other is in Qatar playing the club World Cup! Can that be done?

I assume first team squad go to Qatar and the rest play villa. I know we have little option, but I’d love us the chance to rest a few in one of the club World Cup games, maybe like mane bobby Elliot one game, origi salah and Brewster the other. id like to see Brewster and Elliot playing with our quality to see what they can bring.

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - Of course it can be done. You are making this a far bigger issue than it is. The club needs to suck it up, have the club secretary work with the authorities in England and satisfy sponsors to compete elsewhere.}


1.) 31 Oct 2019 23:41:17
Spot on, Ed02. I don't see a prob with it cos the kids for the most part, were going to be playing in it anyway so nothing changes, IMO. N btw, playing these multiple comps. is the byproduct of being successful and winning trophies esp. Ol' Big Ears so as Ed02 said, suck it up and move on.


2.) 01 Nov 2019 08:55:16
ed002 so what about the manager does he manage one game then fly over to manage the other game next day with a 7 hour flight in between. Ed my be you can tell another team that has to play 2 competitive game in less the 24 Hours. if not so why do we move league games for FA cups games play one Saturday one sunday all the clubs can suck it up. As for playing the kids there has been a good mix on youth and experience just playing all the kids we will go out so what is the point this is a quarter final now and am sure Klopp would be putting a stronger team in to it if not for the club world cup.

{Ed002's Note - If Klopp is such a flake that he is not up to it, the assistant manager or one of the authorised coaches can do one game. Back in the 60’s all Division 1 sides would play back to back fixtures at Christmas.


3.) 01 Nov 2019 09:33:49
I can’t see us splitting the squad and I saw the report too, from the daily mirror, need we say anymore about this crappy tabloid!

Whilst the trip to Qatar really is an unwanted disruption, the one positive is that it will be warm which could benefit the players?

We’ll certainly have a better idea how all of this effects club come mid to end jan, after all, it was this period where we lost our grip last season.

Like I say, maybe the warm weather will benefit the players.


4.) 01 Nov 2019 11:03:49
If I had to choose which game to win I would prefer the CWC over the Carabou. Just my opinion and 2 games to get another trophy. Decent looking 🏆 also lol.


5.) 01 Nov 2019 12:08:26
Personally I think we should just withdraw from the Carabao cup. It sounds as if the PL are being pretty inflexible on fixture moves from what I've read today and I guess we can't withdraw from the CWC without getting slapped by FIFA.


6.) 01 Nov 2019 12:11:47
CWC above the energy drink cup any day!
U only get to play the CwC if u win the UCL so why would u ignore that competition? Plus we have never won it before.
The league cup is always there to be won every season.


7.) 01 Nov 2019 12:46:22
We aren't living in the 1960's anymore, the game has moved on massively.


8.) 01 Nov 2019 12:54:15
Why should we have to send a team of kids to be slaughtered at Villa Park? and believe me that's what will happen. the authorities knew when the quarter finals and the world club championship would be and decided to do nothing, or did they not expect the European champions to be able to navigate a couple of rounds of the carabao? i'd rather see us wait it out till January and play it then when we would be able to send a team with a fighting chance to villa park with the likes of Lovren, Shaquiri hopefully being able to be added to a squad like d other night.


9.) 02 Nov 2019 12:37:30
The authorities have changed fixtures before when teams have been partaking in the Club World Cup - why have they not done the same this year when they knew we would be competing in the Club World Cup? Is this 'winter break' a mitigating factor in this, or are the authorities just incompetent?

I take your point about teams playing back to back games in the 60's Ed but, with all due respect, this isn't the 60's and there really should be more thought and organization from the authorities - isn't that why they exist, in order to prepare for and avoid problems such as these? Just seems to be very amateurish from the authorities and, if Liverpool do as you suggest (suck it up), means us sending entire squad of kiddies to Villa Park - likely ending in defeat, whilst the senior squad jet off to Qatar. Doesn't quite seem fair - other footballing authorities in other countries seem able to avoid such problems, why do the English ones struggle so.

{Ed002's Note - Which authorities are you talking about? In the history of the competition only three English sides have completed in it. You need to get over the obsession that Liverpool are being hard done by - the club has more than enough players to play both games - just suck it up and move on.}


 

 

30 Oct 2019 23:31:52
It’s actually quite funny scrolling through the match posts after the game. Everyone’s getting slated, game over after 30 mins, may as well just tell the opposition we’re throwing the cup. some people! I reckon we should have started a full strength 11, especially bearing in mind we have two games a week until the end of the year now (and one more to fit in somewhere! ) (and a trip to the club World Cup)

Firmane

1.) 30 Oct 2019 23:58:08
It was a strange game. Some of the poorest players on the pitch ended up producing the business. Thought origins as dreadful most of the game and comes up with 2 goals. ox was poor and scored an absolute screamer. Gomez started poor but improved second half. Even Milner didn't have a good game. Thought Lallana was terrible Keita poor and off with another injury and that's the players that should be fighting to get into the first team. Haven't seen much of the youngsters before but Williams impressed. As did Jones when he came on. If we had of gone out I certainly wouldn't have wished that we had put out a stronger team. I think it's a great opportunity for players to get important match experience. The only disappointing thing for me. Is I didn't walk away thinking that any one player tonight deserves a place in our starting 11. Another win and we keep marching on.


2.) 31 Oct 2019 00:03:52
I'm honestly happy we've persevered with the youngsters in the competition, tonight has been a good lesson for all of them. Kelleher could have done better with most of their goals - despite that he comes away having contributed significantly to our progression in the competition. Part of the idea is to give them experience, tonight you'd argue that Ar.


3.) 31 Oct 2019 00:05:12
Posted before I'd finished, sorry. I was going to say you could argue that arsenal deserved it, but we still won. I think that in itself could be beneficial for all of the younger players.


4.) 31 Oct 2019 00:42:42
considering that the gunners put out a strong team and a strong bench, I didn't think we would win this game, boy I was wrong, some great and late goals, ha yes another late late goal, tomorrows draw will be interesting
City will get the easy draw, Oxford, lucky lucky,
we will get Everton or Leicester for sure, unlucky.


5.) 31 Oct 2019 05:59:09
Learning curve and some time under the belt, what impressed the most was a not giving up mentality .


6.) 31 Oct 2019 07:37:38
Bring any of them on, who cares who we get, we're Liverpool and we're capable of beating anybody. If we went and got Oxford there's no guarantee we'd win. Same goes for City. I'm hoping we get Everton.

People are quick to forget we're champions of Europe. Believe.


7.) 31 Oct 2019 17:47:42
You knew City and United would get the easy teams.

{Ed047's Note - I don’t think Colchester United will have it that easy mate.

It’s a potential banana skin for them! 😉


8.) 01 Nov 2019 12:41:23
Had me in stitches there, Ed047.


 

 

 

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07 Dec 2019 09:48:54
I’d like to join Liverpool also.

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13 Nov 2019 23:18:37
He seems like he would be a wise investment even if we purchased him now and had some well thought out loans for him.

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10 Nov 2019 23:29:07
Wouldn’t even want him on a free, technically gifted yes, but soft and goes missing in big moments.

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25 Oct 2019 19:19:24
Read between the lines mate, ed said not half a billion, so it must be more! Mbappe Sancho haivertz is just the start!

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16 Oct 2019 19:45:36
I’d say Lallana, Milner got another year in him.

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08 Dec 2019 20:58:47
Not true, if they won 3-2 we would go out on away goals. We would have to win lose 5-4 or greater to go through if we lost.

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04 Dec 2019 22:29:20
Vvd Alisson mane are all world class, probably salah bobby Trent and Robbo too.

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02 Dec 2019 00:10:35
Ed I’m not sure that’s true, genuinely think messi would secretly win the balon d’or over the cl to move away from ronaldo. He’s not catching him with CL wins is he!

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02 Dec 2019 00:08:45
20 million striker in today’s world would get you someone like Dwight Gayle. They needed a finisher though to counteract the two wide men with little end product.

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02 Dec 2019 00:06:41
Wednesday got draw written all over it. Just like united, Everton is a game that doesn’t take into account form, and with a few local lads in their team they will raise their game.

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