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17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?


{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}

1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}

2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.

3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.

4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}

5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}

6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}

7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.

8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!



13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?


1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?

2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.

3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.

4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.

5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.



02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!


1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.

2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.



24 Dec 2017 17:20:01
Liverpool linked with dani ceballos of madrid, I assume rubbish?


{Ed002's Note - It is sort of correct. Real Madrid have given permission for Dani Ceballos' representativea to approach clubs with a view to a loan before any decision about a sale can be made. The loan will require guarantees of game time. The representatives held meetings in London with Arsenal and Liverpool and have also met Roma and Inter to see what interest there is. It is difficult to see how another central midfield player could be used by Liverpool right now, particularly one on loan, without being disruptive to the team. Inter have someone else arriving so would perhaps not be keen on what is likely to be a high loan fee. Roma I don't know. Arsenal are looking for a central midfield addition in January although there preference is for someone else on a permanent deal - but just perhaps.

Ceballos was watched by Liverpool in the days of Brendan Rodgers.}

1.) 24 Dec 2017 21:29:20
He would fit perfectly in our midfield 8 next season.

2.) 24 Dec 2017 22:56:44
Ron man you were always my favourite poster on Here, recently you been so negative! Enjoy your Christmas, enjoy the dinner, enjoy the wine and please come back to us in January the good ol' Ron because I cannot deal with your negativity!

3.) 25 Dec 2017 08:51:33
Loving the new Ron keep it up and have happy Xmas and new year.

4.) 25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.

5.) 26 Dec 2017 10:37:56
Guys all I did was phrase what Ed002 implied differently.

We stockpile midfielders to a pathological degree and unless we are going to play 8 at once it is totally futile.
Grujic has yet to play a game, Lallana has been injured all season, Woodburn never gets a game, Ejaria seemed to be permanent unused sub last season, Keita is coming, plenty of people plead for a new contract for Can, we’ve just signed Oxlade Chamberlain.

We need defenders!

6.) 26 Dec 2017 14:00:26
So you've named all the midfielders who don't play, not sure how they are relevant as the majority are youngsters trying to establish themselves. That leaves Hendo, wiji, Milner, lallana, can and couts (who both look like leaving) that's not quite 8. so you think him signing on loan til the end of the year would require us to play 8 midfielders? Any excuse to moan these days Ron.

7.) 27 Dec 2017 09:31:12
Agree with Ron. Only 2 of those are youngsters and his response is including the fact that every other thread is about another midfielder we're going to sign. I guess unlike some he is joining up the site as a whole not just viewing each post in isolation. Need is for some better experienced defenders that suit what the club needs. Not another 3-4 midfielders. Personally I'd rather see an out and out natural greedy finisher before see another midfielder.



31 Aug 2017 01:07:56
few rumours about Thomas muller on loan - lemar to sign next season and muller for this?!





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15 Sep 2018 16:06:06
Caught the first half and then had my own match - glad we held on! Not sure about the second but we looked in control to me, even when spurs had their ‘spell’ what did they do? Once Keita gets the cohesion with the front three and they pick up we will blow teams away but it’s great we keep winning anyway!


1.) 15 Sep 2018 17:58:49
Largely had control in the second half too imo. Lucas Moura hit the post shortly before our second goal (and not long after Robertson had hit the top of the bar for us), but apart from that, I don't think they even got a half chance until after the 80th minute.

We should've been over the hill and far away by that stage. We had a couple of 3 v 3 or even 4 v 3 breaks where we picked the wrong option and didn't score.

2.) 15 Sep 2018 22:01:43
“Once Kieta gets the cohesion”
True! Only if he is played to his strength! Keita is a central player. Drops deep, picks the ball and run with it forward and pick a pass! He is never a LCM or someone who have ever played in a 3 men midfield. Watch his spells at RBL over the last two years!

3.) 16 Sep 2018 00:04:04
It doesn’t matter where Keita played at RB Leipzig, he is a Liverpool player now and he plays where is best for Liverpool. He is young enough and good enough to learn how to play in a slightly different position and he’ll be a better player for it. Don’t forget Firmino wasn’t a striker before Klopp came along and now he is one of the best in the world.

4.) 16 Sep 2018 09:41:08
Oh it does! Which is exactly why you buy a player for certain position based on his attributes. If he played poor at RBL we wouldn’t have splashed ££ on him.
There is hardly anything for him to learn and you are missing the point here. The critical point. Just like Brendan played both Can and Firmino ouf of their true position we must not play Kieta anywhere in the midfield and expect him to unlock defense or score goals.
He is such a natural talent blessed with excellent abilities on the ball. Kieta will never fit in a 3 men midfield out wide. We could certainly try!

5.) 16 Sep 2018 09:42:03
Missed the game as I’m in Florida atm (hols) haven’t missed the so called banter 3 points away to spurs is always a good result regardless. Well in boys.



21 Aug 2018 10:12:38
If we stick with taa, Gomez, vvd, Robertson and Alisson, is there a younger first choice back five in the league? Taa under 20, Gomez 21 and the other three you’d think at the start of their peak ages for their positions. Could be the lineup for 5 years at least.




19 Aug 2018 15:29:53
Hate to be like this, I just don’t see us beating city to the title, I just don’t think they’ll drop enough points. Yes we may beat them, and maybe our 11 can match them. But they just score goals, and their bench had same, Sterling, mahrez, with KDB out. They can handle 3/ 4 key injuries and still shift it around and put out a very strong eleven.
I think we will come second, I think we will get more points, but Huddersfield weren’t even in the same league today, yes they weren’t good by an stretch, they rolled over, but that’s part of their aura.
They can rest Aguero, sane and mahrez and still start Jesus Sterling and Bernardo Silva. If we wanted to rest, we are losing a lot more quality that they are.
I know I’m going to get a lot of disagrees, but you have to respect the way city play, their strength and their imperiousness in most games.


1.) 19 Aug 2018 15:40:11
It will be close I think.
Can’t really judge after 2 games.

2.) 19 Aug 2018 15:40:51
Its been two games man! they played two fairly poor sides. Anything can happen between now and October/ Novemeber. let alone by the end of the season. Just chill and enjoy the football.

3.) 19 Aug 2018 15:44:16
City were favourites before the season started and still are. But they’ve literally played two games, let’s see how things look around Christmas.

4.) 19 Aug 2018 15:47:24
Yeah we probably have our best ever team in the Premier League, it's a shame that we're up against probably the best ever team in the Premier League.

There's no pressure on us and unlike them, we have nothing to lose. If we want to challenge, we need to be consistent throughout the season and hope teams nick points off them (red cards, pens, dodgy offside goals etc) .

Let's just enjoy our football and take things one game at a time.

5.) 19 Aug 2018 15:58:44
How city and liverpool both perform away from home will be the decider this year.

Both teams will blow most away at home.

Lets see how they do if we are breathing down their neck after 20 games.

City have the stronger squad and were favourites going into the season.

And low and behold after only 2 games nothing has changed!

6.) 19 Aug 2018 18:02:24
Yes it’s only a few games in, but it’s the same squad as last year, adding mahrez and mendy. They haven’t lost anyone, or is we any reason to b me 15 points worse than last season, even if we get 15 more.

7.) 19 Aug 2018 19:13:42
Lads please, can we wait till we have played four or five games or at the very least, wait and see can we beat Palace before we announce ourselves as contenders.

8.) 19 Aug 2018 19:35:11
Game 2 wow!

9.) 19 Aug 2018 20:58:32
Spot on, Wolverine. Firmane, City played an Arsenal team who are in transition and a Hudd team that literally gave up before even stepping on the pitch. That is going to happen this season at the Etihad with these lesser teams. We cannot be getting our wires crossed or getting worked up over whether we can beat City to the title or not cos we are going to need the psych ward doing that.

We just have to focus on nus and what we do and not worry about what happens with City esp. at this early stage after two measly games. News Flash: City are Favs., end of story. We have achieved nothing yet and it is up to us to prove ourselves and if we don't win the title then, NOBODY will be surprised.

{Ed025's Note - i will..

10.) 20 Aug 2018 07:07:30
To win the title you need s large squad packed with quality, you need team spirit, consistency and luck.

City have played 2 games, you can’t judge them on consistency or luck after 2 games. There is no reason why we can’t streak ahead of them let alone “catch” them.

11.) 20 Aug 2018 08:53:03
You never know what will happen over a season. They might reach the CL final and slip up for the last 5 games as they focus on that. They might lose Aguero and Jesus for 4 months at the same time and be left with all that creativity but no one reliable to finish the chances. We might lose Salah and Mane for 6 months and be way off pace by the end.

It's a long old season. We have a good squad for the moment and so do they, best just see what they do really.



12 Aug 2018 23:48:31
Just watched match of The day, and I do think it’s citys to lose still - they are such a well oiled machine. So well drilled look like they just know what to do at all times.
Okay they have a mistake in them, and their back four is far from impenetrable, but when they need a goal they always look like getting it.
I just think they will be More consistent, and we may go on a run of great wins, but when it comes to the few points which determine who wins overall, they have the experience now too!
My aims for this year are a trophy, let’s break the losing streak, and do our best to mount a title charge, but my feet are on the ground.


1.) 13 Aug 2018 07:03:20
It's ours to lose mate ;) . City will be strong once again and so they should be but I really don't see them doing as good as they did last season whereas us, I see us doing a hell of a lot more this season. I said it weeks ago and I still believe it, we'll win the league.

I haven't said the 'this is our year' stuff for many years but now it's my turn to say it because I genuinely believe it is.

The way I look at it right now, are we afraid of any team in the league? I'm not, we have enough quality to destroy all of them, we tore apart city 3/ 4 times last season and that's without the new signings. Every team playing Liverpool now, need to be afraid, including City because we can dominate this season. I'm not saying we'll go and win every single game, of course there will be some upsets but overall I think we're going to smash it.

2.) 13 Aug 2018 07:12:39
You must’ve watched a different match than me. City didn’t look that good, Arsenal just looked like a team totally lost (I’m not saying that to belittle arsenal. ITs going to take them some time. ) but ederson is a weak point in their team for me. He’s not as good with his feet as many think. And he’s error prone. Their back line is not that good. Sure they’re going to be tough for anyone to beat but they’re not invincible.

We just need to take care of our own business. Our team is better, I truly believe it. The only player I’d take from them (in the first 11s) is De bruyne. If we stay focused we can beat them.

3.) 13 Aug 2018 07:47:35
I'd have to agree that City were not their usual selves yesterday but hey, it's only the beginning of the season. How many teams can afford to start a game with De Bruyne and Sane on the bench? For those who predicted that Arsenal would be in the top 4, after yesterday's game I would say that's wishfull thinking at best. Completely chaotic and very undisciplined. And the usual Arsenal problem - some players play their socks off and others couldn't give a damn.

4.) 13 Aug 2018 08:28:25
The difference between us and most other teams that played City last season (and how Arsenal looked last game) is that we don't sit back, worried that they are going to rip us apart. We actually want the ball and want to get at them. Remember the Chelsea game last season? Shameful. As we've seen with the CL last season, we can beat them, and beat them well. Our main problem I fear, is that we'll drop silly points and be relying on other teams to hurt City. I say City, but I don't expect us to be the only ones pushing them. The way everyone is talking, you'd think it's a 2 horse race.

5.) 13 Aug 2018 08:29:34
That City team played without David Silva, Sane and KDB. Put those 3 in and they would have tore Arsenal to pieces. City are the favorites for the league by some distance, just accept it. I will be delighted to finish 2nd and within 10 points of City, who just happen to probably be the most dominant team in the premier league era. That would be progress for Klopp and Co, and we can always target trophies in the form of the UCL and FA Cup for now.

6.) 13 Aug 2018 08:47:24
Yes it will come down to who is most consistent. If we can improve the areas where we dropped points then we'll be in with a shout.

7.) 13 Aug 2018 09:10:57
Have to agree with Indian there. Although it was only 2-0, it was embarrassing at times in that first half. You had the feeling that if Sane, KDB and in particular, David Silva were on the pitch from the start, the scoreline would have been bigger.

8.) 13 Aug 2018 09:16:56
I'm not pleased to say it, but City would probably be more consistent. I still think teams are more afraid of them than they are of us. Arsenal played without hope in the first half. Most teams would be that scared for the whole game and won't take a go at City.

9.) 13 Aug 2018 10:11:56
We're bound to have doubts about our consistency because of how we've been the past god knows how many years but them days are over imo, the way Klopp has this team playing, the players we have, they all work hard, they want to succeed more then anything you can just see it, we'll be more consistent this season and we'll smash it, after that CL final the players are hungry for it. I don't see it going down to the last few games either, I believe we're going to do it with ease.

City have got an incredible team we all know this but will they do what they did last season again? no chance.

It's not just City though, everybody thinks it's just us and City in the league, no chance there's more challengers out there and I think Utd will be one of them, despite all the BS going on over there.

Call me old and daft, I am! but I do think I'm right with this, my partner at work thinks I'm speaking out of my arse but he's an Arsenal fan and a bit gutted today!



12 Aug 2018 16:11:06
Loved the game, so assured and confident, West Ham started well the second half, but few mins later we scored no dramas!
Best thing for me was when we made subs we strengthened the team, it wasn’t a noteicable drop. I’m not saying Shaqiri is as good as mane at all, but he was fresh and causes them to stay on the back foot. Same with Sturridge, when Salah went off, of course he’s not at that level, but he gets the ball into feet and makes those runs. So many times we get to 70 mins, begin to tire and nothing can really change for the better, as we lacked pace and ability on the Bench.


1.) 12 Aug 2018 16:25:44
Was really impressed by Gomez and Alisson who is so accurate with his long balls. Gomez did well imo not a bad cameo in my opinion. Really looking forward to the next game and hope this team can be consistent. YWNA.

2.) 12 Aug 2018 16:54:11
I too was impressed with Gomez. If he keeps them performances up then it might not just be a cameo there.

3.) 12 Aug 2018 23:14:30
Gomez needs to work on holding his line but he has the speed to recover most of the time. definitely potential at CB but I don’t think he’ll start ahead of Lovren.

4.) 13 Aug 2018 07:50:36
Saw some moaning on the live chat yesterday when we took Firmino off for Henderson but I actually think that was excellent substituting. last season when a forward came off we tended to throw on a defender which always helped bring the other team onto us. This year, bring on a mid instead to help keep the play near the halfway line, let that pattern of play settle for 5/ 10 mins and then bring on another attacking player. Better game management for me that yesterday.




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29 Aug 2018 19:33:35
If he did sign, it would leave us in good stead having Trent as the only out and out right back, as he, Fabinho and Gomez could play there if needed - so we could probably move on Clyne and Matip for one player incoming. Not saying it will happen, but seems like a good idea.




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24 Aug 2018 08:51:14
I think we need to be able to switch one out at a time, gove then periodic rests and still be able to perform. I’d rather that than resting all three at once and expect a front three of Lallana Sturridge and Shaqiri to be at the same level.
lol at city, mahrez sterling played one week, Jesus the next and sane hasn’t even started yet. I know their gulf is less, but I would not go into saturdays game with a front three of mane Salah and Sturridge thinking we lack quality.




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23 Aug 2018 23:41:35
He had a decent spell until that Everton bloke done his ankle in.




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23 Aug 2018 10:30:34
Is Markovic still with us, or did I miss his departure?


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool know what they need to do.}



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21 Aug 2018 10:18:57
Thanks Carra, was hoping he’d play through the middle! Just hope he takes his chance and maybe toughens up a bit.





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16 Sep 2018 14:05:40
I think if we play a big striker, vvd should take him, and Gomez sweep like ed said, by improving his positioning. He isn’t weak or massive so even if if he gained strength he wouldn’t be unplayable in the air. He seems occasionally to dive in a little, but being quick he should just hold off if he can’t get it, and use his pace and strength to hold them up and be comfortable if he gets turned - playing right back for a season should help him in 1v1. I hope we stick with these two when Lovren returns, could be a top partnership for years!




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13 Sep 2018 07:58:30
What is Neymar going to do?! Shall we start a just giving page for him? Poor guy!


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11 Sep 2018 23:44:29
He starts at spurs for me.




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09 Sep 2018 13:11:45
Ed002, I was replying to the content of the daily update that was posted, it wasn’t random?


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09 Sep 2018 13:05:12
Apparently Spanish fans aren’t the biggest fans of De Gea, so maybe the knives would have been out, if it counted.