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17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?


{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}

1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}

2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.

3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.

4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}

5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}

6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}

7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.

8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!



13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?


1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?

2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.

3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.

4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.

5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.



02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!


1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.

2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.



24 Dec 2017 17:20:01
Liverpool linked with dani ceballos of madrid, I assume rubbish?


{Ed002's Note - It is sort of correct. Real Madrid have given permission for Dani Ceballos' representativea to approach clubs with a view to a loan before any decision about a sale can be made. The loan will require guarantees of game time. The representatives held meetings in London with Arsenal and Liverpool and have also met Roma and Inter to see what interest there is. It is difficult to see how another central midfield player could be used by Liverpool right now, particularly one on loan, without being disruptive to the team. Inter have someone else arriving so would perhaps not be keen on what is likely to be a high loan fee. Roma I don't know. Arsenal are looking for a central midfield addition in January although there preference is for someone else on a permanent deal - but just perhaps.

Ceballos was watched by Liverpool in the days of Brendan Rodgers.}

1.) 24 Dec 2017 21:29:20
He would fit perfectly in our midfield 8 next season.

2.) 24 Dec 2017 22:56:44
Ron man you were always my favourite poster on Here, recently you been so negative! Enjoy your Christmas, enjoy the dinner, enjoy the wine and please come back to us in January the good ol' Ron because I cannot deal with your negativity!

3.) 25 Dec 2017 08:51:33
Loving the new Ron keep it up and have happy Xmas and new year.

4.) 25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.

5.) 26 Dec 2017 10:37:56
Guys all I did was phrase what Ed002 implied differently.

We stockpile midfielders to a pathological degree and unless we are going to play 8 at once it is totally futile.
Grujic has yet to play a game, Lallana has been injured all season, Woodburn never gets a game, Ejaria seemed to be permanent unused sub last season, Keita is coming, plenty of people plead for a new contract for Can, we’ve just signed Oxlade Chamberlain.

We need defenders!

6.) 26 Dec 2017 14:00:26
So you've named all the midfielders who don't play, not sure how they are relevant as the majority are youngsters trying to establish themselves. That leaves Hendo, wiji, Milner, lallana, can and couts (who both look like leaving) that's not quite 8. so you think him signing on loan til the end of the year would require us to play 8 midfielders? Any excuse to moan these days Ron.

7.) 27 Dec 2017 09:31:12
Agree with Ron. Only 2 of those are youngsters and his response is including the fact that every other thread is about another midfielder we're going to sign. I guess unlike some he is joining up the site as a whole not just viewing each post in isolation. Need is for some better experienced defenders that suit what the club needs. Not another 3-4 midfielders. Personally I'd rather see an out and out natural greedy finisher before see another midfielder.



31 Aug 2017 01:07:56
few rumours about Thomas muller on loan - lemar to sign next season and muller for this?!





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11 Jan 2020 23:59:39
Regarding this hand ball rule, as an attacking player, if you know the ball has brushed your arm, you’re only option is to ping the ball back to the goalkeeper, or keep possession another couple of mins. Even if you’re in on an open goal but there’s an inadvertent touch, you may as well not score, because you will only lose possession.


1.) 12 Jan 2020 08:03:10
I don't see what the fuss is about to be honest. The detractors (whish seems to be the majority lol), in my opinion, are getting caught up in the feeling of the game. saying things like "it's not football anymore" etc, well what is? The game made a really clear objective ruling on handballs to remove the subjectivity out of goal scoring situations. if they really want to, then perhaps they just narrow it down even further to only the player who scores the goal. I dunno, whatever. But whichever way they go, it will be an objective measure that helps to make a decision.

To help VAR, they should put screens in every ground that has VAR, play what the VAR is looking at or at least show a screenshot of the key event, and then have someone xplain it over the PA to the crowd and for the players. also have clearer comms between the refs so that they can communicate clearly to the players and managers. It's been a bumbling marketing mess.

2.) 12 Jan 2020 09:55:48
It happened the other day, when the attacker realised it hit his arm he played it off the defender for the corner rather than putting it across the six yard box.
Can’t remember the game or the player, but the defender wasn’t happy!

3.) 12 Jan 2020 11:07:51
The issue I have with it is the defending team don’t get the same punishment.

For instance a ball is crossed and hits the defender on the arm which stops the attacker behind him from tapping it in. No penalty as it’s accidental. Now if that same situation happens but its the attacker in front, it hits his arm drops kindly and he scores it’s ruled out.

I think it should only be disallowed if it hits an arm and goes in directly off it.



02 Jan 2020 23:07:35
Sheffield United didn’t put up the fight I thought they would, but what a professional performance tonight. Not much rotation, but if you play like that, I doubt they exert too much energy which is crucial. Though Gomez was pure class today, looked so at ease, made Van dijk look like the less clam one! Hendo and gini i thought also deserved extra mentions too dominated the midfield.


1.) 02 Jan 2020 23:31:53
Can’t fault them this season, really good team. We proper needed this win tonight and we absolutely dominated. 3 very tough league games now after Ev.

2.) 03 Jan 2020 09:45:12
Firmane, I was expecting a better fight from SU as well BUT to be fair to them, they got swamped by the way we started the game. They could not even get out of their own final third cos of the intensity and relentless pressure we put on them. Did you hear Chris Wilder's (top bloke and a damn good coach, IMO) comments after the game? That should tell you the amount of pressure they were under. They could not even breathe cos we did not let them. We did not even get out of second or third gear so we were able to conserve energy which only bodes well for the next games.



27 Dec 2019 10:04:06
All this talk about Trent being in midfield one day? At this moment, What’s the point, he’s getting time on the ball in areas he wants, he creating tonnes, it suits the way we play, and he’s clearly growing as a player. Also, it’s a lot easier to find a midfielder who can create that a new Trent for right back. Let him stay there, and let him be the best rb in club history!


1.) 27 Dec 2019 10:31:53
Would be good to have some versatility though. For example if the opposition were playing a system where he was being pinned back a bit then bring on more defensive rb for a midfielder to allow Trent to push up into midfield and create from there instead.

2.) 27 Dec 2019 10:37:15
I used to really enjoy the thought of him in midfield, I kind of still do but he's the best rb in the world for me so why move him? He's thriving, leave him there.

3.) 27 Dec 2019 11:32:20
If he was to move into midfield, I'd have him playing in that Henderson/ De Bruyne mezzala role where he can ping crosses in and take shots on, whilst also giving cover to the right hand side.

4.) 27 Dec 2019 12:04:34
See yesterday’s first goal and you’ll see why he will be centre mid soon enough.

5.) 27 Dec 2019 13:55:50
He's a Right Back. The next Cafu.

6.) 27 Dec 2019 14:58:44
To be fair, Trent is pushing more and more forward these days so that he is almost playing in midfield already. I’ve noticed this season his confidence has grown and he is no longer afraid to come inside and drive forward and shoot.



14 Dec 2019 10:34:26
Saw a post on Twitter that made me laugh. If we get Minamino we could have gini mini mane mo!


1.) 14 Dec 2019 17:40:30
Nice one Firmane 😅.



11 Dec 2019 08:18:08
Thought van dijk was excellent last night, especially the first 10 or so when they were really up for it, such pace and power and kept us together at the start. It just seems so easy for him to be a powerhouse.





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13 Jan 2020 12:41:18
Never see him play, but at 16/ 17 does seem like he would be better off getting regular games at Birmingham for now.




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09 Jan 2020 23:43:10
It’s much easier to sustain that at CB than other positions mind.




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07 Jan 2020 23:35:14
Gini plays as many games as he can really, and has been fantastic for us in recent times. I can’t see any reason why he’d want to leave or we would want him too.




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03 Jan 2020 23:49:31
Milner even after the new contract?




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01 Jan 2020 23:06:12
Can’t he do that with the under twenty threes now ;)





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20 Jan 2020 13:54:52
I didn’t know about Preston! Kind of proves my point though, in 130+ years only two teams have done it, so we shouldn’t count our chickens at just over mid Way!




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20 Jan 2020 08:14:08
Just to put things in context, city hold the record for most consecutive wins, at 18, I think we are on 13. There’s a reason its The record because no one has done better. There’s a reason only one team has gone undefeated. Because it’s not easy. As soon as we start talking about breaking records we lose focus. There’s a lot of football to be played especially before we start talking records.


{Ed001's Note - actually more than one team has gone undefeated. Football did not start in the Prem era!}



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11 Jan 2020 22:21:07
Ed, have you got a pill function on here? As you have so many player profiles and articles building up, why don’t you run a poll for which one people most want? Maybe pick 5 at random when you have time, and the highest votes wins?


{Ed001's Note - I have been intending to do that, it was something I talked about with Ed033 about setting up last year. But then other things interfered and it got shelved and forgotten about. I will speak to him again about setting something up.}



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10 Jan 2020 23:40:23
I’d take it and retire I reckon, decent money that.




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06 Jan 2020 08:27:17
Richarlison I like, and sigurdsson (as a ten, not in a two man midfield) . But I agree you can name a lot of players who don’t have the quality needed, all your strikers bar Calvert lewin, Walcott Sidibe, mina.

You never replaced gueye in midfield and lukakus goals still.