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04 Feb 2018 13:12:51
In regards to the champions league it is a competition we all love but I feel it has also given a way out for many teams including us, to say, we finished top four it’s a good season.

Take champions league out of it and the only thing that should matter is winning the league (which only one team can do a year but you should be damn close in doing so) and winning a trophy.

Why has the champions league become bigger than the domestic league? don't get me wrong 2005 will live long in the memory but as an English club domestic success should be the be all and end all. For instance I’ll remember 08/09 as we came so close and even closer in 13/14 but I don’t remember the other seasons where we scrape 4th. Finishing top should be and always should be the aim with an FA Cup or League Cup (none of this carabao nonsense) .

WYred

1.) 04 Feb 2018 13:31:13
I don't think qualifying for the champions league has taken precedent over winning the title, it's just the minimum requirement from top 6 teams currently. I think if you asked most Liverpool fans they would prefer the domestic title and I think if you asked our owners they would prefer to be the owners that helped give LFC that. Where have you drawn this conclusion that the champions league is more important? It's more important for citeh currently because they haven't won it yet, and you can bet your bottom dollar that every manager within the top 6 absolutely strives to be crowned champions of the premier league, its not like citeh was the only team set out to try for the title this year and the other 5 just wanted top 4. it's just how the season has panned out with citeh being so consistent in results.


2.) 04 Feb 2018 14:04:03
Sorry WYred but surely you understand the financial rewards for UCL qualification and progression due to tv rights sponsorship etc etc. All fans want the big name players at their clubs, those players in turn want paying big money and want to be playing in the most competitive competition there is in club football the UCL. Its sad really that most clubs view the English domestic competitions as a hindrance nowadays due money pure and simple.


3.) 04 Feb 2018 14:44:06
Why not go for both? 🤔.


4.) 04 Feb 2018 16:25:09
I don’t think CL or top 4 has taken precedence over the league at all, but it’s about being able to realistically build a team that can compete. I would take the title over the CL and I would take a title over a top 4 space the following/ previous season. Money isn’t really an issue any more but top players want to play in the CL, end of story, without CL our best players, who we will have usually been forced to nurture ourselves from young talents because of not being able to attract top players, will want to leave for a better chance of winning trophies/ playing CL and so the cycle continues. There are extraordinary events of course, I. e. Leicester but this was an exception, not the rule, and i’ll be amazed if I see similar again in my lifetime. Top 4 and CL is not the be all and end all, but it is necessary to become and stay as a top team. I said at the start of the year Top four for us would be a successful season and I stand by that.


5.) 04 Feb 2018 18:50:44
Because it helps to attract the best new players.


6.) 04 Feb 2018 20:21:32
Correct stoneage 🤝.


7.) 04 Feb 2018 21:43:49
It's not always the case arsenal jus bought abumayang they ain't in champs league an also in 6th, also if u have a manager a player wants too play under that helps as abumayang has said he wanted too play under Wenger an he now playing for arsenal, as vvd wanted too play for Liverpool also.


8.) 04 Feb 2018 23:34:30
Apologies don't think i worded my point correctly. My point was that qualifying for the champions league was considered a success. I. e. we finished top four so we had a good season.

The only measurement for a good season should be winning a trophy. You could argue a title challenge is successful but only if you just miss out. But finishing fourth should not be considered an achievement it is a mere bonus that you have qualified for the champions league.

Obviously champs league has the money and attracts players, and in my original post that question was rhetroical as its money the makes the game go round which is an unfortunate outcome of the game becoming so successful.


9.) 05 Feb 2018 09:59:17
WYred, there's a difference between winning trophies and achieving targets. Both Wigan and Swansea have won major trophies since our last one but clearly they're not better teams than us. So we need a better way of measuring how well we're currently doing and that's the league.

Goals scored is a great measure of our attack, goals conceded of our defence and points of our general standing. If these records are going up or down season by season then that's measure of our progress.

Being in the top four isn't success in itself but it's a target that's shows we're improving. From 2010-16 we made the top four once, hopefully we going to do it for the second time in a row this season, that's progress.

If we start to come top four regularly then we can increase our targets to 'challenge for the title' and if we challenge for the title regularly we can increase our target to 'win the league'. That's the aim but it's a journey.

Saying we're unsuccessful because we didn't win the league is unhelpful as it wasn't a realistic target for us this season. Having a target of 'top four' and achieving that target shows we're on the right track.


10.) 05 Feb 2018 10:59:00
I think for this season if we qualified for champs league 2 seasons in a row that's progression too were we have come from, it shows a level of consistency in the league but obviously we have too take it too the next level in terms of winning leagues an cups, from the top too the bottom of the club as a whole we always should b thinking through the ceiling but these days money is king an we lag behind in that department as there are 5 or six teams as just as wealthy an 3 of them have juggernaut money.


11.) 05 Feb 2018 11:07:41
So the measurement for success is winning a trophy but you’d rather not be in a competition with a trophy up for grabs so you can focus on 3 other comps, at least 2 of which are less prestigious?


12.) 05 Feb 2018 11:35:43
I still don't think you're correct WYred - most people laugh at the few who considers it a success on it's own merit.

However, most things in life happen in steps. We've spent almost a decade out of the Champions League for the most part, so the first step is getting back into it and solidifying our position as regulars. It's a good indication of the path to success - no one really believes its the end goal of it.


13.) 05 Feb 2018 12:09:27
i think top 2 should should qualify automatic for CL and the winner of both cups get the remaining two place.


14.) 05 Feb 2018 12:33:32
Hailstones. aubumayang went to Arsenal because no other big club would buy him and he wanted to move! Also his current club are out the champions league so it made no difference to his current season.


15.) 05 Feb 2018 15:00:27
Tia, mate abumayang is quality he will bag arsenal a lot of goals bet u he has a field day in the premiership, no one wanted Suarez but we did, no one wanted coutihno we did, no one wanted Salah we did, doesn't mean anything they have a world class striker.


16.) 05 Feb 2018 16:11:36
Swish, I never said I don't want to be in the champions league, my point is that you shouldn't meerly aim for top four (you may during the season have to adapt your targets depending on results) but before a ball is kicked the title should be the aim plus any trophy your competing in.

ending a season with just a top four finish can be seen as progress from where we have been but should still be considered an average season at best.

This site is about opinions which over certain things will differ but it is what makes this site so addictive.


17.) 05 Feb 2018 18:36:26
how many clubs, Liverpool included, wish for top four, it brings so many pluses, meaning you have performed well in the bread and butter of the premiership, then to have a good run, in all the cups, hoping to win one of course, really being in the Champions League does attract the better players, and money,
this then means you can then strenghten your team, giving you a better chance to win games,
so the best teams, then have a much better chance of staying up there with the best,
we have just added VVD and Mo Salah, our full back situation looks so much better now, even Karius is improving, we have Kieta coming here in 4 months, Lovren looks good with VVD,
there to me I can see a big improvement,
if we can add a class midfielder, we can def set our sights even higher next season .


18.) 06 Feb 2018 02:24:55
WY, the aim is to win everything we enter, the top 4 is the minimum level we want to be achieving, not maximum. just cos that's what we reference as a milestone doesn't mean that we're only happy competing at that level.


 

 

02 Feb 2018 20:21:55
Does anyone know if a player with less than 6 months on their contract can sign a pre- contract agreement outside of the January transfer window?

WYred

1.) 02 Feb 2018 20:36:36
Yes as long as it’s with a club for a different country or FA as far as I’m aware. At least that seems to be the general rule. Need to get the old law manual out!


2.) 02 Feb 2018 20:37:59
Yes, as long as it is a non English side.


3.) 02 Feb 2018 20:52:36
I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window.


4.) 03 Feb 2018 02:06:44
Fa not country. by the way eds is there any country havin different fa?

{Ed001's Note - any country having different FA from what?}


5.) 03 Feb 2018 11:29:34
“I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window. ”

Ed002 will correct me if I’m wrong, but players can sign for clubs at any stage of the season as long as the selling club agree to it. Registration can only be transferred during a transfer window.

When a player only has 6 months left on their contract they don’t need to seek the permission of their parent club to sign pre-contract agreements. If it’s within the same FA then a fee needs to be decided - either by agreement or by tribunal (eg Danny Ings)

{Ed002's Note - Right.}


6.) 04 Feb 2018 01:53:56
Livebird31 Swansea and Cardiff are in different FA to country and vice versa.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 18:55:40
Ed002 has played a blinder with wonderdogsparky, my opinion is that Couts is off and VVD has taken his house.

WYred

1.) 02 Jan 2018 20:10:46
It'd seem to obvious to me that scenario, I think he's talking about somebody else coming in lol but who knows, his 'clues' are about enough to make Einstein go round the twist.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 20:20:56
Samir "smooth hands" Handanovic, methinks.


3.) 02 Jan 2018 20:25:40
He ‘or she’ Ed002 may be a she, is just sending us into a frenzy, silly season is underway!

{Ed002's Note - I rather think I have done no such thing.}


4.) 02 Jan 2018 20:43:59
It does seem its couts and vvd but there does seem to be another one at least in there.


5.) 02 Jan 2018 20:44:01
Ed002 I think its great mate what you have done. Certainly makes it fun us all stressing over who it is arriving. Is it someone youve mentioned before like on the Sharkopod?

{Ed002's Note - you have missed the entire point.}


6.) 02 Jan 2018 20:50:51
John parrot lives in coutinhos basement.


7.) 02 Jan 2018 20:59:27
It’s all riddles
Hand cream Shea butter
Could be
Shay given (Shea)
Jack butland (butter)

I hope I’ve stirred this pot into more frenzy.


8.) 02 Jan 2018 21:17:41
Wonder Dog Sparky is and anagram of Skyward Pogo Nerd

The prodigal son returns. I give you Peter Crouch!


9.) 02 Jan 2018 21:54:08
There won’t be a keeper. We have four. Two whom expect to be playing.


10.) 02 Jan 2018 21:55:46
Tbh I don't even think it relates to any new arrival now.


11.) 02 Jan 2018 22:13:33
My reading of the players ‘dropping by to say hi’ to WDS are other players that will be leaving. Marco, Ings etc.


12.) 02 Jan 2018 23:21:15
Shea Butter = sturridge out
Old Friends = masch and Suare, pepe reina?


13.) 03 Jan 2018 03:10:10
Shea butter made from Pea-like fruit off the Shea tree.

Mascara - Spanish for Mask

Old Friend

Auba is on his way!


14.) 03 Jan 2018 10:33:46
Rborhara, it could be Nuri Sahin you know.


15.) 03 Jan 2018 13:16:34
Bull Moose Jackson plays R&B Keiata’s on his way!


 

 

27 Dec 2017 18:06:06
Been confirmed by the club! VVD is a red at 75 mil though i think that is a huge risk and if it doesn't work and we are not challenging next year for trophies klopp will be under massive pressure.

WYred

1.) 27 Dec 2017 18:16:48
We are always challenging for trophies as every club is when the competition starts and managers are always under pressure. Whatever the money bandied about it it's a) irrelevant and b) obscene. You pay what the market rate is which goes up day by day and will do so until the bubble bursts. Opinions are like you know what's - we all have one. If this happens and it's a player that Klopp thinks can improve us then lets' be positive and see where it takes us.


2.) 27 Dec 2017 18:18:57
I really hope it works out well - I want a world class player for that money, I fear we've got merely a good one.


3.) 27 Dec 2017 18:25:23
Great opportunity to try the back 3 with Matip, Gomez, and VVD. wingbacks with options on both sides and a defensive midfielder dropping in to the triangle. Good flexibility and mobility as well as hopefully quick ball movement.

I know Hendo gets a lot of grief but we seem more balanced and dynamic without him in the team, do you think he will stay on or a replacement may be looked at?


4.) 27 Dec 2017 18:29:27
He is quality I am made up but we need more simple as, we need a new qaulify established keeper who we can trust too not make errors, it's not easy but they out there, hope vvd form was cos his head was with us an not because of his injury hell of a lot of money.


5.) 27 Dec 2017 18:31:47
Crazy stuff. But credit where it is due to everyone at the club for resurrecting an all but dead transfer and beating Chelsea and City to him. Am amazed. I think I need a drink!

{Ed002's Note - They did not resurrect a transfer as they never spoke to Southampton about the player regarding a transfer. Manchester City has a lengthy list of CBs they are interested in. Chelsea's interest in a centre back is elsewhere.}


6.) 27 Dec 2017 18:36:25
I highly doubt we will change the system to accommodate VVD. Nearly impossible to incorporate the "Fab Four" in a three at the back system.


7.) 27 Dec 2017 18:39:19
I think he's a decent player and I'm not slating him here.

But SEVENTY FIVE MILLION QUID? ARE YOU MAD?


8.) 27 Dec 2017 18:43:52
Kimos so by definition Swansea are challenging for the title before the season starts then? Without going into the money too much (sorry ed002) 75million is a huge fee (even in the inflated market) and is going to represent a huge investment by the club, one of which I would fully expect the club to think is enough to push the club from top four contenders to title challengers (next season, city are out of sight)
Klopp, when he joined, said he would win the title within three years and the club are trying to give him the tools. It is now down to him to put those tools into practice.


9.) 27 Dec 2017 18:56:08
Overpriced to say the least, that's suarez money! Guess we see if he picks himself up, he's been dog this season!


10.) 27 Dec 2017 20:02:15
Do you want our competitors to spend all the big money and we just buy the £10m and under defenders? We have tried to penny pinch and look what has happened. The signing is a game changer, just what we needed.


11.) 27 Dec 2017 20:02:43
The money goes up all the time WYRed. Each window. To compare prices of previous and recent windows makes little sense. I read earlier that he's not worth 1 Bale or 2 Salahs. At previous window prices Bale didn't have one and Salah is now worth considerably more than £35 or 40m whatever it was. As fans we want the best for our teams and the money we have little or no concept of how it goes. Let it be and hope he turns out alright.


12.) 27 Dec 2017 20:38:44
Great singing I’m dubious about the money spent and have thought there may well be cheaper options out there for a cheaper price but we’ve got him we wanted him first let’s get behind him. A top keeper or one with the potential to be top next and I’ll never ask for anything again.


13.) 28 Dec 2017 00:29:41
Cheaper cheaper cheaper god my post wasn’t great 😂.


 

 

 

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13 Jul 2018 21:56:20
Just a note on XS, he’s taken number 23 which still leaves 10 available hopefully means there is still a couts replacement and sky’s prediction XS is replacing him is wide of the mark.

WYred

1.) 13 Jul 2018 22:12:41
Carra’s old number and Fowler’s old number 🤝.


2.) 13 Jul 2018 22:50:38
Ron, Let’s hope he’s got half the commitment of Carra and half the ability of Fowler.


3.) 13 Jul 2018 23:27:06
I flinched a bit about him taking God's number tbh.


4.) 14 Jul 2018 10:13:20
Well Razorsharp. that is the hope.


 

 

11 Jul 2018 22:12:53
England did well, always disappointing to go out in a tournament especially when your so close. Knew we would regret the missed chances but once they scored you could see they were scared to be failures and hounded by the press.

Should hold their heads high, even if we did get lucky with the draw. You can only beat what’s in front of you and the Croats had that little bit of extra composure to see them over the line.

Either way it’s back down to club football and can’t wait for it to begin again.

Note: good luck Ed’s silly season might have just got a shot in the arm now the media can’t write about England!

WYred

1.) 11 Jul 2018 22:42:47
Think Southgate got off very easily.

Blame went to composure and experience.

Not the fact that croatia countered the 352 in the second half and made us a 532. Delph needed to cone on and we should of countered with a 4231. Rose on for young and delph on for trippier.

Just watched us get blitzed all. second half smashing it up front and back to them. Kane just awful past 2 games without penalties. Playing cm?

Sterling. Well. 5o million looks better and better each time I watch him.

And I f$%in hate mandzukic and his stupid grip haha.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 23:08:23
Spot on, Kloppsboss. England may have made the semi's of a WC and that should be applauded BUT having said that, The Croats were by far the better team and it showed, . Modric did NOT put ONE foot wrong all game and England hence Southgate, could not be arsed to put a man on him to disrupt his play. The guy did exactly whatever he wanted on the pitch and all England did was stand and admire him do it. Croatia outworked, out-thought and outplayed England from the second half on.

Also, Southgate got his arse handed to him on a plate by Dalic tactically. Croatia played as a unit while attacking and defending and never seemed in danger when England countered cos you have the likes of Alli, Lingard and the gawd awful Sterling mucking about.

Offensively, England create ONE chance from open play (Kane's chance at 1-0) while the Croats had more of the chances overall. Defensively, Walker was crap (I know, ) and so was Stones. Maguire did not do much and his lack of speed on the turn showed again. Composure comes from preparation, confidence, mental toughness and knowing what you are doing. England did not have it cos they had NO idea what they were doing. The better team won and that is the way it should be, IMO.


3.) 12 Jul 2018 04:17:00
Exactly brover. Apart from Hendo our midfield were awful when out of possession. Rubbish. Klopp would have subbed Ali and lingard for their lazy defending.

{Ed0333's Note - Dier should have come on way before he did.


4.) 12 Jul 2018 11:34:08
Alli was done at 60 mins, RBC or Delph at least had legs. We had no threat after the hour.


5.) 12 Jul 2018 06:41:58
Defo ed033. Half time maybe.

{Ed0333's Note - or at the start?


 

 

11 Jul 2018 13:02:53
Shaqiri looks like he potentially may be moving to us and I am seeing plenty of mixed reaction.

Personally, I think it is a good deal for the club, there is an argument to be made about his temperament but the same could be argued about Mane when he joined. With the business the club has done I think they and Shaqiri deserves the chance to prove that they have got it right in the transfer market again.

From a business sense it is relatively low risk in todays market, in terms of youth development it opens the door for one or two to get a loan rather than a bit part squad player that hampers their development. I think he comes in as cover for the top three postions but if we can instill the Liverpool work ethic I think he could prove to be a steal. How often have we had a player that has ability to change the game from the bench? All transfers are a risk but I believe the club with their recent purchase history deserve a chance to prove they have it right again.

WYred

1.) 11 Jul 2018 13:09:26
I'm quietly confident, he's good enough to be genuine competition for Salah and Mane whilst his profile is low enough that he'll accept that he starts as a back up.

The only sadness is that I think this ends Wilson's prospects with us (unless someone leaves of course) .


2.) 11 Jul 2018 13:25:59
PR, Wilson still needs to do more and show a lot more in order to play for LFC under Klopp, per Ed01. As for Shaquiri, he is NOT the one I wanted as I wanted Moses Simon cos he is young, has a great attitude and is like a Baby Mane having watched him play (mostly for Nigeria) . Shaquiri is trouble, IMO and has a poor attitude, lazy and was at Stoke for a reason due to no big club wanting anything to do with him after he flopped at Bayern and Inter. But if Klopp wants him, he has my support cos after all, he is not a totally useless player.


3.) 11 Jul 2018 13:57:09
Putney, Shaqiri has never accepted to be a back up. That’s part of his attitude problem and why he left Bayern/ they got rid of him.


4.) 11 Jul 2018 14:59:17
Dead on, Swisch.


5.) 11 Jul 2018 15:02:09
Swish, unless someone at the club has told him he is replacing Salah then he has been told that he will be a back up.


 

 

10 Jul 2018 15:39:45
Football may or may not be coming home, fingers crossed it is!

But 13 families have their loved ones back and a huge amount of gratitude needs to go to the ones who helped rescue them. I hope Liverpool offer something to the lads effected and the divers who risked their lives.

football may be coming home but those lads definitely are!

WYred

{Ed025's Note - i cant see liverpool donating anything to be honest Wyred, they are absolute minge bags when it comes to charities mate, and thats the truth not me with my everton hat on..


1.) 10 Jul 2018 16:33:49
I'd say we have got a bit better regarding charities and such things. A few of the players such as trent have been doing visits and things.
Still not the best but let's hope we can continue getting better.


2.) 10 Jul 2018 16:48:20
And thankfully all are safe now. An outstanding effort and a show of incredible bravery by all concerend, unfortunately one diver lost his life but those boys now have many years to live well and make that sacrifice one that was worth giving.


3.) 10 Jul 2018 16:07:17
Your not wrong ed025, I was hoping they could use it as an opportunity to improve that side of the club, think we are miles behind Everton in terms of what they do for charities/ local community. In the grand scheme of things what does sending over a box of shirts/ merch cost when they pay a player £100,000's a week.

{Ed025's Note - im totally with you on that Wyred, im really proud of the way everton in the community conducts itself mate, not only the donations but that they send the youngsters out to help in disabled and elderly homes as part of their schooling, its a great grounding for them and hopefully it will make them better human beings..


4.) 10 Jul 2018 16:15:56
True Ed25, if one club were to do anything for them it'd be Everton. If only we did more for communities/ charities as much as they do. They deserve massive respect for the work they do, other clubs should take a leaf out of their book.

{Ed025's Note - i agree salah and it makes me very proud to be blue when i hear of their great work..pity about the football really mate.. :)


5.) 10 Jul 2018 21:55:08
The poor lads have got a invite to visit Old Trafford later this season according to BBC news, there's only so much anyone can be expected to endure.

But hats off to MU's public relations dept, played well.


 

 

05 Jul 2018 22:39:27
If we are sticking with Karius I say bring it on, there is no guarantee the big money keepers would improve our team, what if they don’t settle? What if the increased scrutiny that comes with being our keeper effects them negatively? Our mantra is YNWA yet we want to throw one of our players under the bus? It’s fickle. The lad will be determined to make it up to us and we should give him that chance. All this talk that a keeper can save you 10-15 points, that for me is pulled out of the air and based on De Gea, a keeper who plays for a team/ manager that works on fine margains.
My point is give the lad a chance and he may repay the faith, ederson is no world beater but city won the league as it’s a squad game. Keeping Karius doesn’t automatically mean we won’t be competitive.

WYred

1.) 05 Jul 2018 22:55:59
i normally back our players but do not think karius should stay. I just do not think he is good enough at all. And its ok people saying you never walk alone but its not like these players aren't earning crazy money, so for me if there not good enough they should go.


2.) 05 Jul 2018 23:34:39
Not everybody is wishing any harm to Karius I cerainly don’t but I have seen no real evidence that he is of a standard fitting our needs and desires and I just don’t see how anybody has seen anything that suggests he will. Maybe he has done some things right at times but it has only been at times, I have seen much more uncertainty and mistakes.


3.) 06 Jul 2018 00:10:44
I’d rather give him a chance than waste money on a keeper who isn’t a massive improvement.


4.) 05 Jul 2018 23:23:51
Faith should have nothing to do with it. This decision should be made on an assessment of his skills. Not 'can be be good enough' but 'is he good enough'?

We've been given plenty of evidence to suggest he's not. By not buying anyone we're potentially wasting another year and I do not want to see posts next summer saying 'we could have won the league of only we'd brought a decent keeper.


5.) 06 Jul 2018 02:23:37
We need to be wary as buying a decent keeper doesn't mean he’s guaranteed to replicate his form for Liverpool. If we buy Allison and he has a nervous first season a la De Gea then we may have well kept Karius. With the exception of one match, i don't remember Karius letting the team down with errors and we now have a keeper desperate to improve and showhis doubters they are wrong. 60 million or more is a hell of a lot of money to gamble on a position that is based heavily on the confidence of the player.


6.) 06 Jul 2018 07:52:28
The other thing is the club only has a finite amount of money so unless it’s going to drastically improve what we have the investment probably doesn’t make sense. Previously we have brought to improve the bench, when really we should be buying players capable of being first 11, as the players they replace would be benched and this improves the bench. Buying bench or squad players creates complacency.

I would also be quite happy if our keepers were Ward and Karius, Allisson wants Madrid and there aren’t many top class keepers available. But I think Ward may force our hand in search for first team football leaving migs to be replaced.


7.) 06 Jul 2018 07:53:29
Newsflash Putney, Klopp sees having faith in his players as a strong point of management. Did he ditch Lovren after the horror show at Spurs where he was taken off in the first half?
Klopp's given several interviews where he stresses that they deal with the human being, not just the player. If he thinks that Karius is mentally strong enough to come back from this then he'll be our number 1 next season, unless he gives Klopp a valid reason not to be.


8.) 06 Jul 2018 07:45:27
For the record, Ed002, you spelt Alisson's name wrong! 😆.


9.) 06 Jul 2018 12:38:28
Flash, you're falling for the spin there. Where was Klopp's faith when Karius was dropped in 2016, where was Klopp's faith when Migs was selected ahead of Karius at the beginning of the season?

As for Lovren he was dropped for the next two games after his horror show but was brought back in when Matip was injured.


 

 

 

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08 Jul 2018 10:53:23
Aulas is doing right by his club and wanting the most for his club, you can’t argue with that. His methods are unorthodox but he gets what he wants which is a very good deal for Lyon. A tricky customer but if we want Fekir as much as Keita and VVD I trust the club to get it done.

P. s. he is also trying to drum up interest for a better deal, we all do the same if we are selling something so why should it be different for a player.

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08 Jul 2018 10:53:23
Aulas is doing right by his club and wanting the most for his club, you can’t argue with that. His methods are unorthodox but he gets what he wants which is a very good deal for Lyon. A tricky customer but if we want Fekir as much as Keita and VVD I trust the club to get it done.

P. s. he is also trying to drum up interest for a better deal, we all do the same if we are selling something so why should it be different for a player.

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02 Jul 2018 18:32:40
Cheers red pasty, it amazes me how far the club have come over the last decade and hopefully more to come. I really hope we win something (CL or Prem) with Klopp so he can sit alongside the greats that have managed the club.

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02 Jul 2018 09:35:12
Salah may have signed a new contract but we now know he speaks about himself in the third person ;)

Players come and go but the contract protects us against losing a prize asset (likely increases any transfer fee in the future), acts as a good PR message that the club are moving on after the disappointment of the CL and the player has been awarded for his efforts last year. So let’s try and be positive, roll on 2018/ 19!

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26 Jun 2018 17:18:27
So we will be buying him in the 19/ 20 season ;)

In all seriousness all the best to Ings wish it worked out better for him at Liverpool.

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14 Jul 2018 19:28:08
More then half their total apparently.

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12 Jul 2018 21:10:53
sorry ed my comment was meant as tongue and cheek. Hopefully his desire to move to us get's the deal over the line.

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{Ed001's Note - I know that mate, but was just pointing it out.}


 

 

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12 Jul 2018 20:23:43
Thanks Ed001, although can you stop with the very kind words for him, don't want you drumming up other interested parties! Also can you confirm you don't want the player we don’t want the ominous ‘Tris, I want to sign that player, curse’ think I need a catchier name for it though.

WYred

{Ed001's Note - he has told Lyon he wants to join Liverpool so I am not sure that matters all that much. However the curse I am trying to avoid so I will say nothing.}


 

 

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11 Jul 2018 13:42:31
I hope he does expect to be in the starting 11, it shows he believes he can compete with the likes of salah but im hoping that shows him he needs to fight for his place.

At stoke he probably thought he would be guaranteed a starting spot because there was little competition, here he must know he needs to fight and hopefully that gives him the kick he needs. Complacency is the worst thing for anyone, and if he decides to not try hard enough well he won't be here very long.

The club clearly think he can do a job and that is good enough for me.

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10 Jul 2018 16:07:17
Your not wrong ed025, I was hoping they could use it as an opportunity to improve that side of the club, think we are miles behind Everton in terms of what they do for charities/ local community. In the grand scheme of things what does sending over a box of shirts/ merch cost when they pay a player £100,000's a week.

WYred

{Ed025's Note - im totally with you on that Wyred, im really proud of the way everton in the community conducts itself mate, not only the donations but that they send the youngsters out to help in disabled and elderly homes as part of their schooling, its a great grounding for them and hopefully it will make them better human beings..