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26 Mar 2019 11:09:11
I have to ask, ed002 any truth in the Moreno rumours to Barca. Good luck to him if it's true!

WYred

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware, Barcelona are already discussing bringing in one first team starter at LB an one for the future at LB.}


1.) 26 Mar 2019 15:35:09
Looks like Lazio could be his next destination.


 

 

18 Jul 2018 19:35:08
Why are both the echo and Sky reporting this Alisson deal as breaking the record that city paid for ederson? It may be the premier league record but the actual record was Buffon back in 2001.

On the subject of Alisson not seen much of him but ed001 seems to rate him highly so thatll do for me.

Also gutted for the ox, the reaction on here shows how integral he became to the squad and hope his recovery goes well.

WYred

1.) 18 Jul 2018 19:59:52
Reporters only have a 5 second memory, they probably forgot all about Buffon being the worlds most expensive keeper until this deal is completed lol.


2.) 18 Jul 2018 20:04:30
It varies depending on which currency you use because of the fluctuation in exchange rate.

Buffon held the euro record. Ederson held the sterling record. Alisson breaks both records.


3.) 18 Jul 2018 20:39:02
It’s being reported as. PL record.


4.) 18 Jul 2018 21:40:36
Didn’t they pay 52 Euro’s but for Buffon and Lilian Thurman, so for 2 players.


5.) 18 Jul 2018 23:21:08
It’s as Adam said. Buffon, although more Euros, was sold at a time when the £ was much stronger against the €.

Hence Buffon in £ at the time (2001?) is less than Ederson in £ when he was bought last year.

Not much in it, mind.

And when you think about the inflation of transfer fees in the last 15-20 years, Buffons transfer fee was in the Coutinho - Neymar range in today’s market!

What’s most amazing is that, in light of everything, Juve STILL got a bargain!


 

 

04 Feb 2018 13:12:51
In regards to the champions league it is a competition we all love but I feel it has also given a way out for many teams including us, to say, we finished top four it’s a good season.

Take champions league out of it and the only thing that should matter is winning the league (which only one team can do a year but you should be damn close in doing so) and winning a trophy.

Why has the champions league become bigger than the domestic league? don't get me wrong 2005 will live long in the memory but as an English club domestic success should be the be all and end all. For instance I’ll remember 08/09 as we came so close and even closer in 13/14 but I don’t remember the other seasons where we scrape 4th. Finishing top should be and always should be the aim with an FA Cup or League Cup (none of this carabao nonsense) .

WYred

1.) 04 Feb 2018 13:31:13
I don't think qualifying for the champions league has taken precedent over winning the title, it's just the minimum requirement from top 6 teams currently. I think if you asked most Liverpool fans they would prefer the domestic title and I think if you asked our owners they would prefer to be the owners that helped give LFC that. Where have you drawn this conclusion that the champions league is more important? It's more important for citeh currently because they haven't won it yet, and you can bet your bottom dollar that every manager within the top 6 absolutely strives to be crowned champions of the premier league, its not like citeh was the only team set out to try for the title this year and the other 5 just wanted top 4. it's just how the season has panned out with citeh being so consistent in results.


2.) 04 Feb 2018 14:04:03
Sorry WYred but surely you understand the financial rewards for UCL qualification and progression due to tv rights sponsorship etc etc. All fans want the big name players at their clubs, those players in turn want paying big money and want to be playing in the most competitive competition there is in club football the UCL. Its sad really that most clubs view the English domestic competitions as a hindrance nowadays due money pure and simple.


3.) 04 Feb 2018 14:44:06
Why not go for both? 🤔.


4.) 04 Feb 2018 16:25:09
I don’t think CL or top 4 has taken precedence over the league at all, but it’s about being able to realistically build a team that can compete. I would take the title over the CL and I would take a title over a top 4 space the following/ previous season. Money isn’t really an issue any more but top players want to play in the CL, end of story, without CL our best players, who we will have usually been forced to nurture ourselves from young talents because of not being able to attract top players, will want to leave for a better chance of winning trophies/ playing CL and so the cycle continues. There are extraordinary events of course, I. e. Leicester but this was an exception, not the rule, and i’ll be amazed if I see similar again in my lifetime. Top 4 and CL is not the be all and end all, but it is necessary to become and stay as a top team. I said at the start of the year Top four for us would be a successful season and I stand by that.


5.) 04 Feb 2018 18:50:44
Because it helps to attract the best new players.


6.) 04 Feb 2018 20:21:32
Correct stoneage 🤝.


7.) 04 Feb 2018 21:43:49
It's not always the case arsenal jus bought abumayang they ain't in champs league an also in 6th, also if u have a manager a player wants too play under that helps as abumayang has said he wanted too play under Wenger an he now playing for arsenal, as vvd wanted too play for Liverpool also.


8.) 04 Feb 2018 23:34:30
Apologies don't think i worded my point correctly. My point was that qualifying for the champions league was considered a success. I. e. we finished top four so we had a good season.

The only measurement for a good season should be winning a trophy. You could argue a title challenge is successful but only if you just miss out. But finishing fourth should not be considered an achievement it is a mere bonus that you have qualified for the champions league.

Obviously champs league has the money and attracts players, and in my original post that question was rhetroical as its money the makes the game go round which is an unfortunate outcome of the game becoming so successful.


9.) 05 Feb 2018 09:59:17
WYred, there's a difference between winning trophies and achieving targets. Both Wigan and Swansea have won major trophies since our last one but clearly they're not better teams than us. So we need a better way of measuring how well we're currently doing and that's the league.

Goals scored is a great measure of our attack, goals conceded of our defence and points of our general standing. If these records are going up or down season by season then that's measure of our progress.

Being in the top four isn't success in itself but it's a target that's shows we're improving. From 2010-16 we made the top four once, hopefully we going to do it for the second time in a row this season, that's progress.

If we start to come top four regularly then we can increase our targets to 'challenge for the title' and if we challenge for the title regularly we can increase our target to 'win the league'. That's the aim but it's a journey.

Saying we're unsuccessful because we didn't win the league is unhelpful as it wasn't a realistic target for us this season. Having a target of 'top four' and achieving that target shows we're on the right track.


10.) 05 Feb 2018 10:59:00
I think for this season if we qualified for champs league 2 seasons in a row that's progression too were we have come from, it shows a level of consistency in the league but obviously we have too take it too the next level in terms of winning leagues an cups, from the top too the bottom of the club as a whole we always should b thinking through the ceiling but these days money is king an we lag behind in that department as there are 5 or six teams as just as wealthy an 3 of them have juggernaut money.


11.) 05 Feb 2018 11:07:41
So the measurement for success is winning a trophy but you’d rather not be in a competition with a trophy up for grabs so you can focus on 3 other comps, at least 2 of which are less prestigious?


12.) 05 Feb 2018 11:35:43
I still don't think you're correct WYred - most people laugh at the few who considers it a success on it's own merit.

However, most things in life happen in steps. We've spent almost a decade out of the Champions League for the most part, so the first step is getting back into it and solidifying our position as regulars. It's a good indication of the path to success - no one really believes its the end goal of it.


13.) 05 Feb 2018 12:09:27
i think top 2 should should qualify automatic for CL and the winner of both cups get the remaining two place.


14.) 05 Feb 2018 12:33:32
Hailstones. aubumayang went to Arsenal because no other big club would buy him and he wanted to move! Also his current club are out the champions league so it made no difference to his current season.


15.) 05 Feb 2018 15:00:27
Tia, mate abumayang is quality he will bag arsenal a lot of goals bet u he has a field day in the premiership, no one wanted Suarez but we did, no one wanted coutihno we did, no one wanted Salah we did, doesn't mean anything they have a world class striker.


16.) 05 Feb 2018 16:11:36
Swish, I never said I don't want to be in the champions league, my point is that you shouldn't meerly aim for top four (you may during the season have to adapt your targets depending on results) but before a ball is kicked the title should be the aim plus any trophy your competing in.

ending a season with just a top four finish can be seen as progress from where we have been but should still be considered an average season at best.

This site is about opinions which over certain things will differ but it is what makes this site so addictive.


17.) 05 Feb 2018 18:36:26
how many clubs, Liverpool included, wish for top four, it brings so many pluses, meaning you have performed well in the bread and butter of the premiership, then to have a good run, in all the cups, hoping to win one of course, really being in the Champions League does attract the better players, and money,
this then means you can then strenghten your team, giving you a better chance to win games,
so the best teams, then have a much better chance of staying up there with the best,
we have just added VVD and Mo Salah, our full back situation looks so much better now, even Karius is improving, we have Kieta coming here in 4 months, Lovren looks good with VVD,
there to me I can see a big improvement,
if we can add a class midfielder, we can def set our sights even higher next season .


18.) 06 Feb 2018 02:24:55
WY, the aim is to win everything we enter, the top 4 is the minimum level we want to be achieving, not maximum. just cos that's what we reference as a milestone doesn't mean that we're only happy competing at that level.


 

 

02 Feb 2018 20:21:55
Does anyone know if a player with less than 6 months on their contract can sign a pre- contract agreement outside of the January transfer window?

WYred

1.) 02 Feb 2018 20:36:36
Yes as long as it’s with a club for a different country or FA as far as I’m aware. At least that seems to be the general rule. Need to get the old law manual out!


2.) 02 Feb 2018 20:37:59
Yes, as long as it is a non English side.


3.) 02 Feb 2018 20:52:36
I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window.


4.) 03 Feb 2018 02:06:44
Fa not country. by the way eds is there any country havin different fa?

{Ed001's Note - any country having different FA from what?}


5.) 03 Feb 2018 11:29:34
“I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window. ”

Ed002 will correct me if I’m wrong, but players can sign for clubs at any stage of the season as long as the selling club agree to it. Registration can only be transferred during a transfer window.

When a player only has 6 months left on their contract they don’t need to seek the permission of their parent club to sign pre-contract agreements. If it’s within the same FA then a fee needs to be decided - either by agreement or by tribunal (eg Danny Ings)

{Ed002's Note - Right.}


6.) 04 Feb 2018 01:53:56
Livebird31 Swansea and Cardiff are in different FA to country and vice versa.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 18:55:40
Ed002 has played a blinder with wonderdogsparky, my opinion is that Couts is off and VVD has taken his house.

WYred

1.) 02 Jan 2018 20:10:46
It'd seem to obvious to me that scenario, I think he's talking about somebody else coming in lol but who knows, his 'clues' are about enough to make Einstein go round the twist.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 20:20:56
Samir "smooth hands" Handanovic, methinks.


3.) 02 Jan 2018 20:25:40
He ‘or she’ Ed002 may be a she, is just sending us into a frenzy, silly season is underway!

{Ed002's Note - I rather think I have done no such thing.}


4.) 02 Jan 2018 20:43:59
It does seem its couts and vvd but there does seem to be another one at least in there.


5.) 02 Jan 2018 20:44:01
Ed002 I think its great mate what you have done. Certainly makes it fun us all stressing over who it is arriving. Is it someone youve mentioned before like on the Sharkopod?

{Ed002's Note - you have missed the entire point.}


6.) 02 Jan 2018 20:50:51
John parrot lives in coutinhos basement.


7.) 02 Jan 2018 20:59:27
It’s all riddles
Hand cream Shea butter
Could be
Shay given (Shea)
Jack butland (butter)

I hope I’ve stirred this pot into more frenzy.


8.) 02 Jan 2018 21:17:41
Wonder Dog Sparky is and anagram of Skyward Pogo Nerd

The prodigal son returns. I give you Peter Crouch!


9.) 02 Jan 2018 21:54:08
There won’t be a keeper. We have four. Two whom expect to be playing.


10.) 02 Jan 2018 21:55:46
Tbh I don't even think it relates to any new arrival now.


11.) 02 Jan 2018 22:13:33
My reading of the players ‘dropping by to say hi’ to WDS are other players that will be leaving. Marco, Ings etc.


12.) 02 Jan 2018 23:21:15
Shea Butter = sturridge out
Old Friends = masch and Suare, pepe reina?


13.) 03 Jan 2018 03:10:10
Shea butter made from Pea-like fruit off the Shea tree.

Mascara - Spanish for Mask

Old Friend

Auba is on his way!


14.) 03 Jan 2018 10:33:46
Rborhara, it could be Nuri Sahin you know.


15.) 03 Jan 2018 13:16:34
Bull Moose Jackson plays R&B Keiata’s on his way!


 

 

 

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09 Jun 2019 13:59:27
Quick ticketing question, for pre season games do they just go on general sale and is there generally much demand? Also for the community shield, I'm guessing these go to people with a certain amount of games first before they filter down to members?
League tickets are like gold dust at the minute so trying to get a couple of games under my belt, any advice from the members would be appreciated.

WYred

1.) 09 Jun 2019 14:22:18
Pre season you can sometimes get tix off the other clubs website, I think I even paid on the door at Bury last year, ahh the good old days.
Members for league games, they sell in bulk now, which is annoying, so the first half of the season will go on sale you'll literally have to grab any seat you can probably for the most available games to build up your card.
Save up now coz for example you'll have to buy say all 3 games you want in one go. Nightmare but good luck mate.


2.) 09 Jun 2019 21:32:58
Evening FC8, but when you log on for the first games on membership sales I can never get through. I think each member shop be allowed a couple of matches. I don't mind which league matches they are.

I think the only way to get tickets is the hospitality for lower games. Then get the credits on the membership for the season after. If you have an L postcode I think it is easier to get tickets.


3.) 09 Jun 2019 21:48:09
Thanks guys! I’ll be honest last few years haven’t even tried for league games with budget and difficulty to get them! Plus as the team gets better it’ll be more unlikely to get to games, Hence trying to go to for pre season and community shield tickets (no idea what demand will be like for them) . And my postcode starts with an L it’s just quickly followed by an S wonder if their system is that clever 😂?


4.) 10 Jun 2019 10:21:20
Nice one WY. It's the only negative in supporting Liverpool, they are by far the hardest to get tickets for.


5.) 10 Jun 2019 11:47:34
Ah well Keep trying lads! To be honest I only go to the European games now with a few prem games dotted around. It Gets expensive!
youll definite get a ticket for the home friendly though I'm certain lads keep trying.


 

 

05 Jun 2019 10:10:11
The echo have announced some potential friendlies for Liverpool, our usual at Tranmere and potentially one at Bradford. But nothing confirmed by either club yet.

I know it will only be a few first team players but definitely going to the valley if its true.

WYred

1.) 05 Jun 2019 13:55:12
I live I will be Bradford I will definitely be off to valley parade for that game even if the first team players only play 20 minutes I'll be over the moon be nice if the brought big ears to show the fans it tol.


2.) 05 Jun 2019 14:59:25
That would be ace! Read about it in a few of the local papers and it may be to do with links with Stephen Darby, so sounds like it's to raise money for the Motor Neurone charity.


 

 

08 May 2019 21:59:12
Football is unreal, well played spurs, incredible! Bring them on,

WYred

1.) 08 May 2019 22:03:35
Wow, so its spurs. We will be in the red kit.

Who are the better team, liverpool or spurs? I think that's obvious.

We have a good record against spurs.

Fair play to english football. Dunno why everyone bangs on about la liga, apart from messsi i don't see what the fuss is all about.


2.) 08 May 2019 22:04:04
Fair play to spurs though, fair play.


3.) 08 May 2019 22:04:07
Look at Poch. Football shouldn't make you feel like that. It's only a game after all. It defies all logic. Some game, some effort, well done Spurs. Incredible.


4.) 08 May 2019 22:23:48
IR, this is why we watch football. It it was an exact science, NOBODY would care.


 

 

01 May 2019 12:06:06
I just do not understand the behaviour of some! Just seen the video of an elderly gentlemen being pushed in to a fountain, how do some view this as acceptable?
They are effectively representing our club and shouldn't be allowed to attend a game again. I'm all for having a laugh but show some respect to the individuals and the city you visit.

WYred

{Ed002's Note - Only one person on these pages seems to find it acceptable.}


1.) 01 May 2019 12:33:33
Well said lad.


2.) 01 May 2019 13:00:57
Sorry ed, wasn't referencing anyone on these pages just meant in general.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}


3.) 01 May 2019 13:37:52
You come across morons in all walks of life. As a Brit i think it is essential to be a good ambassador for my country whilst travelling abroad and this guy has dirtied our already fragile reputation, not to mention the club. Having said that, how much do we know about the event leading up to this? Was it all in good fun or something more sinister? After all, we only see a video that lasts a few seconds.


4.) 01 May 2019 14:56:14
Our of every 100 people there always at least 5 🔔🔚s

And all over the news we have these 5 🔔🔚s

I hope the punishment will be harsh

Unfortunately another 5 will take their place.


5.) 01 May 2019 15:51:33
I am not sure how anything in the lead up to the event can make the remotely acceptable. Just one scumbag who thinks bullying others is fun whilst drinking and a group of idiots who think it's ok to egg that scumbag on. I hope he gets a lot of time behind bars to laugh about what he did to the poor old man.


 

 

24 Apr 2019 22:19:13
I’m astonished by the amount of posts saying it’s over, City aren’t going to slip up etc etc.

I remember when we were close in 14 and then we lost to Chelsea. Think we went in to that on a 12 game winning run. They all come to an end.

City have lost to palace, Newcastle and Leicester this year. They are not as unbeatable as people make out all we can do is look after ourselves but I’m adamant they will be a slip up, potentially from both sides.

We have not bottled or blown the league, we might finish on 97 (97!) points which apart from last year would be enough to win it. If city win their last three then their record would be 18 wins and one loss in the second half of the season. that is simply ridiculous form but I refuse to give up until the final whistle goes in our last game. The players deserve our continued support after a brilliant season.

WYred

1.) 24 Apr 2019 22:25:49
Mate it's over. But the Champions League is most definitely In our hands.


2.) 24 Apr 2019 22:28:11
The players will always have my support but that doesn't mean we can't be realistic. Yes City have lost to Palace, Leicester and Newcstle this season but how likely is it, on the run they are on that it will happen again. Its not impossible no but the likelihood is City will win their last three games, and bravo to them if they do as that will be a sensational run to the title. Our players have pulled up trees this season and will be cheered to the last whistle but that doesn't mean people are not allowed to say they think an amazing team like City will beat three mediocre teams to take the title.


3.) 24 Apr 2019 22:30:41
You’re contradicting yourself there.
Forget City, and especially forget Man Utd because they are a waste of space and it’s embarrassing to read LFC fans wanting them to win.
The best side wins the league and we’ll only know that in three games time.
If it’s City, fair play to them.


4.) 24 Apr 2019 22:32:28
We were 7 points clear, if we don’t win the league then it’s a bottle. It’s the literal definition 😂
City have only this to play for mainly now. It’s wishful thinking but they just won’t realistically drop points. Even assuming we win all ours!


5.) 24 Apr 2019 22:36:31
I’d say it’s over, my only hope was spurs really. City needing a win to clinch the league will brush aside teams that have nothing to play for.


6.) 24 Apr 2019 22:56:01
There's no doubt it's difficult now, city can easily focus on league and knowing winning their 3 games will retain their tittle which makes more difficult for their opponents taking anything from them.

After looking at utd today still can't believe how we drew w/ em especially w/ all those injuries :- ( ( (.


7.) 24 Apr 2019 22:56:14
DeanW, I am not sure that I understand your post and the use of a laughing emoji. If you are seriously suggesting that this Liverpool team are bottlers you really need to find another team to follow. Apologies if I have misunderstood you.


8.) 24 Apr 2019 23:31:53
Dean, you been repeating this "bottlers" talk for a while now so let me ask you this: When City got dumped out of the CL by Spurs on the away goals rule. are the bottlers? Pep is yet to make a CL final since he left Barca. Is he a bottler? Max Allegri has played two CL finals and lost them both to Barcelona and RM, Is he a bottler? Should we win the PL this season, will that make City bottlers? I mean, I can keep going.

Now if the answer is no then how can LFC been bottlers then if we don't win the PL this season? Your post is ridiculous as it is patently false.


9.) 25 Apr 2019 02:32:12
RedWolf, you've nailed it for me there.

If we miss out on the title, fair play. Best team won. But to say we bottled it? Jesus.

It could end up finishing as it is now. 1 point in it. how can that constitute bottling it? We've hardly crippled under pressure if that happens. Just one team has had one less fortunate result than the other. Sh** happens mate.


10.) 25 Apr 2019 02:59:54
Ridiculous post DeanW. Quiet the opposite of bottlers actually as after our blip when everybody conceded defeat 10 games ago our boys have stood up and fought city point for point. If city get 7 points from 3 games and we get 9 we are champions. But if city also get 9 we are then bottlers? Your embarrassing mate.


11.) 25 Apr 2019 08:11:44
If you are 7 points clear then draw 3 or was it 4 games in a row, then that is bottling, whether you want to believe it or not.
Not sure how it's "embarrassing", its just an honest opinion. How would Pep ever be called a bottler by your definition, I dislike him but he's on for a triple this year. if City had been 3-0 against spurs and lost then yeah it's different.
we've done well, but is anyone going to be happy if we just come second? again.


12.) 25 Apr 2019 08:15:15
Its embarrassing seeing Liverpool fans wanting united to win? I would want a team of XI serial killers to win if it meant Liverpool winning the league.


13.) 25 Apr 2019 08:54:09
DeanW we were 7 points ahead for about a week. On 3rd of January we lost to city at the etihad in a game which could have gone either way. It was 4 points then immediately at halfway point of the season. City have dropped points in ONE game since and we suffered a blip with the squad depleted with injuries and have battled to maintain pace with a near perfect city side. I don't think you honestly understand the meaning of the term 'bottled' if that's what you'd class it as. Start of December nobody even thought city could be chased at all. I'm not sure if you're trolling or not to be honest.


14.) 25 Apr 2019 09:33:37
I give up, 7 points ahead past the halfway point of the season. Ahead till February.


15.) 25 Apr 2019 11:48:22
DeanW, I think it’s time for you to join Harry on the Manchester City pages.


 

 

 

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19 Jun 2019 19:00:54
The red kop I suggest you make a new account called TRKMSMP and combine your two personalities 😂.

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13 Jun 2019 12:05:29
Unless I've missed something, apologies if I have, but pretty sure Ed002 only said don't rule out us making a bid. Which to me means that he is an option that we may reconsider but nothing more then that at the minute.

Unless it is all just a smokescreen ;)

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11 Jun 2019 19:03:49
I thought they already gave it to him, as a show of good faith after his injury.

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08 Jun 2019 16:52:26
Unbelievable insight Ed! Thank you!

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25 May 2019 17:17:59
Salah didn't do much for Chelsea either.

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17 Jun 2019 09:23:39
Sorry ed, couldn't resist obviously said with tongue firmly in cheek!

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17 Jun 2019 09:07:34
So ed001, with Neymar being pushed towards the exit door anychance of a cheeky bid for our annual marquee signing? if not I am sure we can use it as a smokescreen for our pursuit of Mbappe!

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12 Jun 2019 19:57:06
I don’t think he is injury prone, two (at least) of those were unlucky. And I’d want him with VVD to be our cb pairing for years. But I’d agree that if matip or Lovren leave we need a cb and ideally one good enough to challenge Gomez. Hopefully the scouts can find a gem out there.

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09 Jun 2019 21:48:09
Thanks guys! I’ll be honest last few years haven’t even tried for league games with budget and difficulty to get them! Plus as the team gets better it’ll be more unlikely to get to games, Hence trying to go to for pre season and community shield tickets (no idea what demand will be like for them) . And my postcode starts with an L it’s just quickly followed by an S wonder if their system is that clever 😂?

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07 Jun 2019 13:54:32
HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE MARK, just kidding!

Don't get me wrong they are all brilliant players I just think if we sold any of the front three and the money we would get for each of them, Bobby would be the hardest to find a replacement for. I genuinely don't know a player that could do the job bobby does for the team.

If it was down to me I'd just clone the whole team and we would be set for life!

WYred