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03 Jun 2015 15:14:19
Ed002, you've mentioned previously Mitrovic as a player that Liverpool should look at.

Is there any interest in him from us or anyone else in the prem?

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - here is interest in Anderlecht's Aleksandar Mitrović from Borussia Monchengladbach, Manchester United, Swansea, Dortmund, Newcastle and Eintracht Frankfurt. The interest of Leicester and Bayern Munich seems to have gone, but Arsenal may just look again at the player - depending on which direction they wish to go given their first choice as opted to moved elsewhere. The interest from Manchester United is recent. Newcastle are likely not an option - perhaps it will become clear when the managerial role is resolved. Probably now of reach of Swansea and Frankfurt.}


1.) 03 Jun 2015 19:32:01
Would he be a player that we would potentially look at as an option Ed?
Sorry for the vague question

{Ed002's Note - It is what I have said.}


 

 

27 Jan 2015 15:17:05
Our current right back situation is vastly over staffed in my opinion, with; Manquillo, Johnson, Flanno and McLaughlin.

I never understood why Rodgers brought in Manquillo in the first place, but are we planning on keeping him for the full two years?

Does anybody know if Flanno is going to be offered a new contract?

And somebody please tell me that Johnson is going to turn down this new contract offer?! If he is offered enough to stay with us and Flanno isn't offered a new contract, Rodgers will have officially lost his marbles, and you lot may argue but for this would actually be the final straw with Rodgers for me, as it demonstrates just how poorly our youngsters have been managed and I think it would speak volumes to others in the academy that no matter how hard you worked to force your way into the team (Flanno), you still won't get given the chance.

Also, I'm sure the Eds will agree, but really enjoying how quiet this January is

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - As far as I know the plan is to keep Manquillo for the two years - unless his club want him back after a year.}


1.) 27 Jan 2015 20:38:08
why keeping Manquillo? One of our worst signings and at least we can send him back to his club

{Ed002's Note - For a price.}


2.) 28 Jan 2015 13:02:43
Manquillo, one of our worst signings? Eh?


 

 

09 Nov 2014 13:09:31
Eds, really appreciating your the time and effort that you're putting in to answering everyone's questions and dealing with the mopes who are using the site as a place to vent after each poor performance.

Personally I don't think we need to buy anyone in January. We bought too many players in the summer for far too much money when we had youngsters who would have done equally as well and probably even better.

January should definitely be a selling window in order to trim our overstaffed squad. Eds, do you know of any players which will likely be sold come January?

Unfortunately I have a feeling it'll be the wrong players.

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - Sakho and Balotelli.}


1.) Edo1 how come these 2? would that still be true if Rodgers is gone?

{Ed001's Note - how on earth could I know what another manager would want before I even know who it is? Those two because Rodgers doesn't rate either, but that doesn't mean they would stay if he went.}


2.) How about Borini and Suso?

{Ed002's Note - I would think Suso will be looking to sign a pre-contract in January, that would suit him financially. I would think Borini is (a) priced out of a January move and (b) happy to wait until the summer. Balotelli has been offered to a number of clubs in England (3 I am aware of) and some in Italy (again 3 I am aware of). A move will hinge on the money, not just for the transfer, and that may be a problem. Kirikou would likely welcome a move to get first team football. Perhaps the summer will be an option for a move.}


3.) Will the committee set up also be scrapped ED? Those two players mentioned were never going to fit in the system BR prefers and they aren't the only ones. Money down the drain.

{Ed002's Note - You will need to wait and see what the way forward is/ Critical right now is an evaluation and the formulation of a plan.}


4.) Which English sides was mario offered to?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle.}


5.) Are LFC likely to make any money off Balotelli sale?

And why get rid of him after only half a season?

{Ed002's Note - There is no guarantee he will go. And if he does Liverpool will not be making any money out of a sale.}


6.) Eds, is it possible he could go before he let's a good player in sakho especially go? Because for me sakho is our best defender. Just because he fell out with him, is this what happens with every player he falls out with?

{Ed002's Note - He is 4th choice.}


7.) 10 Nov 2014 06:37:32
Ed002 can u say witch clubs for Mario?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}


 

 

24 Nov 2013 17:36:31
Ed001, you said yesterday that we're looking for someone for the midfield.

There has been a lot of strong speculation over Will Hughes and Macca thinking that we're still after Alonso, but who do you think we will try and get in January? {Ed001's Note - I believe we are intending to get someone with more power and pace for central midfield. The bit of bite we have been lacking (though in my opinion we should have just got Medel before Cardiff last summer), which is why I would not expect it to be Alonso. I also don't see Will Hughes in that category, so I am not expecting him, or at least not just him. While I would not be of the opinion he is the player I would want, I believe there is some interest in Diame, as a cheap option, so it is possible we move for him. Other than that, I am not sure who is likely right now, January is not a good time to buy.}

ToonRed

1.) Player like Ramirez would be good, are we still after MATIC? {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


2.) Ed I get what your saying but Medel is more trouble than he's worth. I think Diame would be a good buy and we could offer Allen on loan so that West Ham could use that money for an attacker.


3.) M'vila ed? was in the stands on saturday. {Ed002's Note - As a guest of Kirikou.}


4.) I keep hearing from the EDs that January 'isn't a good time to buy' but over the last few years, we've done some great business in January- Suarez, Coutinho, Sturridge. arguably our 3 best players and all of them made an instant impact. That would suggest we perform very well in the winter window. Is there any reason why the EDs think it's not a good time? {Ed002's Note - It is the middle of the season and teams do not want to be disrupted by sales.}


5.) Alonso has signed a new long term contract at RM, so won't be coming back here any time soon, if ever! {Ed001's Note - Haych, sorry I didn't deal with your reply so didn't spot your comment, but it is absolute lies. He is no trouble whatsoever! He works his backside off in training and plays where ever he is asked to play with no moans or whines. If you are referring to red cards, he is nothing like as bad as made out.}


6.) If only Kolo could convince his brother to sign as well


7.) Ed001, any chance of Fernando? From what i've seen he's a beast in midfield {Ed001's Note - he is certainly one that has been put forward and looked at, but I believe the asking price was ridiculous. I was told that Porto were asking for 30m+.}


8.) Eds001 what's your views on nzonzi, my opinion is he would also be a good cheap option with proven prem experience? {Ed001's Note - he is ok, just doesn't do enough for me, too prone to silly bookings, they never seem to be a case of taking one for the team, always down to a lack of discipline on his part.}


 

 

08 Aug 2013 19:24:25
Just been in a bar in Alderley Edge and saw Didi Hamann in there.

Whilst I didn't pluck up the courage to go over and pester him. I did hear him outside talking to a friend saying a bid for LS from Madrid is imminent.

Dont know how reliable he is at all but just thought i'd pass on the message.

Cheers

ToonRed

1.) He was on LFC TV lst night saying we should enquire about Rooney. Must have been on the juice since then.


2.) Is didi connected to Madrid because I don't see how he would know this


3.) I agree Challo, as I say I am merely passing on what I overheard.

He will probably have meant that that is what he is expecting and I just caught the back end on the conversation


4.) 08 Aug 2013 21:34:07
This is not as unbelievable as the repliers make it sound. Didi still has links with Liverpool, hence his time spent on LFC website after yesterdays game and so on. It is not unthinkable that he would know information, he doesn't need links to Madrid in the slightest, just to Liverpool.
A while back a friend of mine when to a sportsmans dinner where Jan Molby was the guest speaker, at this speech he told those in the room to put their mortgages on Roy Hodgson taking over at Liverpool. Needless to say it happened.
The 'inside' footballing world knows a lot more about the goings on, its like mates chatting at work about stuff they've heard from management, which happens in everyday working life. I know an up an coming player from a big Lancashire club that knows a fair bit about the goings on at his club well before it ever hits the papers, just not anything about other clubs.

Anfield Andy


5.) ToonRed, any whispers, innnuendos or anything we hear, should always be passed on. It may not always end up being fact but at least you've let the rest of us know what you heard. Good on you

keep em coming!


6.) Cheers Tel 1949


7.) Didi is one of the least informed people around. He is often seen around frodsham/helsby etc too. He's always up for a chat with fans which is brilliant, but he knows no inside information most of it is opinion. If Madrid do put in a bid it's unsurprising given or the past 2 months they have been linked.


8.) These are the posts that should be on this site, not the usual ask the Ed's fest its become but honest believable(ish) rumors. Good on ya amigo. Which pub?


9.) It was in The Bubble Room in Alderley Edge


10.) I worked in a Pub in Formby where Howard Kendle was our 1st customer every day, he told me to put a bet on a young blue captaining England one day, put £5 on it for a laugh ( said in 10 years time) Won nearly £800 when Rooney led out the national team against san marino.


 

 

 

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28 Feb 2017 10:50:23
Ed001, based on your analysis of the best LB's in the world. Would you go all out for Tierney?

And do you agree with Ed002 that La Manga should have focussed more on rest than gruelling training?

Cheers mate.

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - Tierney yes, La Managa definitely not. Two weeks of rest would have left them sluggish, slow and lacking in fitness. We weren't beaten because of a training camp.}


1.) 28 Feb 2017 11:16:38
Ok. Would Tierney be ready for the first team? Are we interested in him?

{Ed001's Note - yes, yes, but so is everyone in Europe.}


2.) 28 Feb 2017 13:14:50
So Ed, are you saying that last night we weren't slow, sluggish and lacking in fitness.

{Ed001's Note - yep. Leicester made us look it because they were so up for it, the players were certainly none of those things. Sorry but there were signs of us not having played for two weeks, passing off etc, but no signs of tiredness. There were lots of players getting in each others way, making the wrong runs, but they were making the runs. If they had rested they would have been far worse. This was far more about a bunch of backstabbing *censored* who won the title last season through hard work, working even harder than they did last season to try and prove a point. The only point proved was that they are backstabbing *censored* who downed tools on Ranieri and were fully capable of doing far better than they have been all season, they just couldn't be arsed because they have got too big for their boots.}


3.) 28 Feb 2017 14:40:17
Yep couldn't agree more ed001, I was going to write a similar post of how despite the disappointing result for us the most disappointing thing about that game is seeing leister remember how to play football again immediately after forcing out a manager who won them the most improbable league title in history, no reason why they shouldn't be top 4 now when they can pull performances like that out the bag.
Really hope that ungrateful bunch get relegated now.


 

 

22 Feb 2017 07:36:58
Because Ed I thought you always said (which I very much agree with) that we should be buying players to go straight into the first team.

Otherwise they're just squad fillers, which is what we've been doing for years instead of utilising youth.

Not trying to start an argument, just trying to understand how you think we should be building the squad as I think I've misunderstood.

Cheers.

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - you have lost me. What exactly are you referring to? I have always said players should only be bought if they are deemed good enough to improve the first XI, but the rest has lost me totally!}


1.) 22 Feb 2017 09:16:39
Sorry ed, tech skills lacking this morning. This was in response to TopoftheKops post at 22.36 last night.

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry, I can't see that from the edit page mate.}


 

 

07 Feb 2017 07:45:11
Ed001, I completely agree with regards to the level of complacency from certain members of the squad against the 'lesser' teams.

Surely Klopp must be aware of this? And we'll likely see these players moved on in the summer for players with the desire and hunger?

Last question; which players possess the desire that you would go for in the summer? I personally think that players are so pampered these days that they are few and fair between, certainly in the top tier of the European leagues.

Many thanks for all your work.

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head I can't think of any I have seen recently. You are right, they are not as common place as they once were. Admittedly this season I have been so busy with other things I have not watched the huge amount of football I usually watch, but they do seem to be getting rarer. However they are there, Leicester filled their team with them last season.}


1.) 07 Feb 2017 11:42:43
Hi Ed1, I think zings is one of those players and it's been such a shame that he's been injured so much. Do you think he'd have made a difference and will he stay next season?

{Ed001's Note - erm who is zings?}


2.) 07 Feb 2017 11:59:57
Sorry Ed forgot to proof read, Ings I meant.

{Ed001's Note - I should have guessed! Sorry, now you say it, the name seems obvious. I think you have a point there. He has the workrate, but also hunger and desire to prove himself, shame it will be a long time before he is back to his best. You only have to look at Falcao, it has taken him what four years(?) to return to something like his previous level. Same with Flanno, he needs to be given more time to get back, as he makes a difference with his infectious attitude and desire.}


3.) 07 Feb 2017 12:06:35
Most likely referring to our very well hidden gem, Zidanny Ings.


4.) 07 Feb 2017 12:09:15
Troy Deeney, Wes Morgan and Joe Hart may not be the best players, but if we had players like them we would not be struggling to beat lesser sides.

I always feel gutted for Deeney and Morgan when I see Watford or Leicester play this season. They care so much, yet play with a group of guys who don't seem to care at all.

Sanchez is the only world class player in Prem with the desire to match his talent.

{Ed001's Note - Morgan looks shot to me and Hart is the English Mignolet - crap with a poor attitude. If you think he would help us I fear for you. He would be another hindrance. Hart has no desire, well other than to make more money for crap ads. As for Deeney, maybe, but I feel he plays for the shirt at Watford as he owes them for standing by him when he was trouble. I don't think he would be any good elsewhere, as he wouldn't have the same desire.}


5.) 07 Feb 2017 13:14:10
Not saying any of them are of the quality we require, I just think they are 3 examples of players who care.

Hart is dreadful as a keeper, but I think he is a great leader. He seems like the sort who just wants to win football games. Of course, I could have him all wrong and he might be a tool off the pitch.


6.) 07 Feb 2017 17:27:01
There must be some kind off media-induced campaign to get Joe Hart a job with a PL club as he is dreadful beyond belief. if they let you go so a crap GK calike bravo can replace you then sorry, you should not be anywhere near LFC. I'd rather work with Karius and get him a new GK coach to help him as he is more talented and has better upside than Hart or Migs.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 13:21:04
I've thought this for a while but would be interested to hear others and Ed's opinion on this idea.

I realise it's very simple and would need further detail but I think all football would benefit from it and raise the standard of the game.

For senior players;

If you make the first 11 that week - you receive 100% of your wages.

If you make the bench - you receive 75% of your wages that week.

If you don't make the match day squad but are willing to play for the U23's that week - you receive 75% of your wages.

If you don't make the match day squad and are unwilling to play for the U23's - you receive only 50% of your wage that week.

It would need rolling out across all teams in the UK if not Europe for it to work. However I've always thought it would be a good idea to ensure players aren't just happy to sit on the bench and collect their weekly wage for doing nothing.

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed025's Note - there is no way that players or agents would go for that toon, its a good idea in principal mate but unworkable im afraid..


1.) 22 Jan 2017 13:34:27
That's what I feared, Ed.

The only way it could work is if it was enforced by the FA or UEFA to keep a cap on wages.

{Ed025's Note - i would have them all on zero hours contracts if it was up to me toon mate.. :)


2.) 22 Jan 2017 13:56:29
Terrible idea mate, seriously is.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 14:08:16
Would you agree to 100% pay only for productive time and not for tea/ coffee break, bio break, lunch break.

very unrealistic idea.


4.) 22 Jan 2017 14:11:08
Why you think so DownRater?


5.) 22 Jan 2017 14:22:49
I think most clubs have their own individual systems which are bonus related in that the more you play, score, win bonus etc.
But to generalise a system throughout UEFA would be impossible to enforce and would lead to disruption at every team selection.
Every individual player is different so if your happy not to be involved and to sit on the bench then that's a character fault and is the job of manager or transfer committee to have spotted this.
A great example of this was when City were buying up all the young talent like Rodwell, sinclair etc.
Them lads took the money but in my opinion showed a fault in their make up that has subsequently damaged their careers.
Remember Scott Parker at Chelsea he could not stand not playing and walked away from the money to play at another club. With even Morenio calling him a model professional.
Which example is professional?


6.) 22 Jan 2017 14:37:09
As I say, it was an idea. If you don't think it's a good one, fine, but maybe make another suggestion instead of just shooting it down.

The boys are all incredibly well paid, but there is no incentive to flog their guts out week in week out in training if they know they are picking up 100% of their stratospheric salary no matter what. Therefore, potentially lowering the standard of the game across the board.

I agree entirely that it is unrealistic due to the complications and the undoubted uprising from footballers potential to be on the breadline.


7.) 22 Jan 2017 15:42:09
I also couldn't see this working. However, I'll explain my reasons. Players' agents would just be instructed to ask for assurances on playing time and wages doubled in case a player is on the bench.
Also, as we have seen with Origi and Sturridges rotation in certain games and others, different games call for different tactics/ types of player. I'm pretty sure having Sturridge, and this is an example as I have no idea what he is earning, on £100,000 a week every week is better than having Sturridge on £200,000 a week and sometimes £100,000 a week when he is on the bench.
What would happen with substitutions? It's very much a 14 man team at the weekend.
Also, you could have extremely hard workers earning half their wages when there are better options with maybe less of a work ethic taking their place and wages.
I could only see massive disruption of morale within teams squads


8.) 22 Jan 2017 15:46:57
This only works if we regard playing football as different from other forms of work. The reality is playing football is a job - albeit an overpaid, lucrative job - but a job none the less and the same labour rules that apply for all us regular joe's also apply to football clubs and the things they can or can not do with their employees. If it was suggested that people who weren't on the most productive team in their office recieve 75% salary only there would be (rightly in my opinion) outcry. Footballers are very privileged and few seem to realise it - but the job has to be treated like other jobs and similar sorts of rules relating to workers rights should and must be enforced.

You get idlers in every type of job - you cannot start stripping peoples pay because of this though as it would harm lots of decent, hard-working people. Even taking football as an example yes there are some players happy to collect there wage and sit on the bench - but there are also hard working professionals who, for whatever reason, are usually on the bench as this is their role. I don't think penalising players financially for being on the bench makes sense or is even fair - add to this the fact that it is the manager who decides who does and doesn't play and it becomes an even bigger minefield.


9.) 22 Jan 2017 19:14:30
ive also thought that if a team does not win then the players shold not get paid, imagine the difference with some players and in some games were we have seen the players playing like they don't care it will never happen and just a dream by me but it happens already in some jobs where people only get paid on commission, years ago the players never got payed that much to todays wages but believe me there was some very good players who neverwent down holding their face when they got touched in the leg, years ago the players were proper men


 

 

21 Jan 2017 20:55:49
Win some you lose some. No one has an automatic right to walk on the pitch and collect 3 points.

Lallana wasted on the wing. Drop Can and let lallana drop back.

Harry Wilson or Ojo for the right wing position for me whilst Mane's away.

TAA in for Clyne.

Don't worry red men, everyone has off days

ToonRed

1.) 21 Jan 2017 22:56:30
Will people stop with this Wilson and Ojo lark. They're not even getting on the bench so they aren't going to play. They would be part of the match the squad if they were good enough right now, but they're not.


2.) 22 Jan 2017 10:36:01
Just my opinion, natural.

What's yours?


 

 

 

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14 Apr 2017 07:20:45
Thanks Ed001! These are the kind of posts we all live off.

Have you heard anything on Brandt or Moussa Dembele?

Sorry, at the risk of sounding thick, are Fulham unlikely to sell Sessegnon to us due to what happened with the kid from Stoke?

I'd love to get him personally, but certainly wouldn't be annoyed with either Gaya or Pereira.

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - Brandt, I have nothing to add over and above what Ed002 has already said. Dembele looks to be one we don't go for due to his demands over first team football. He has the potential to be brilliant, but he has had a fair few indifferent games of late. I doubt it will be us willing to give him assurances, even if we did, I am not so sure they would be enough for him.

Partially that is a problem, but it is also our actions in the past with regards to transfers. We need to rebuild some bridges there, as the club have not yet forgiven us for the tapping up of Dempsey.

I really like Gaya, don't know why, but each time I see him he looks too good for that Valencia side. It is hard to tell though, as the whole team there is shambolic at times.}


 

 

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26 May 2016 08:13:34
That doesn't sound good Ed?

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - I don't understand what you mean? A player no one thinks is good enough will be moved on if possible, what is there to not sound good about it?}


 

 

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11 Nov 2015 08:00:05
Hjikle. Because it's a rumour .

Personally I miss the days of the crazy rumours that were the reason for this site.

Pele arriving in his knickers hand in hand with Ken Aguero at Liverpool airport ready to buy the club - brilliant!

Cheers.

ToonRed

 

 

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26 Dec 2014 18:18:45
Where would we be able to find these Madrid plans Ed?

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - The Real Madrid page would make more sense. So, just to clear this up - Marco Reus, Lucas Silva, Thomas Muller and David Alaba remain the targets for Real Madrid after agreement has been reached with Marco Asensio. Additional interest in Chelsea's Ramires is the balance if Lucas Silva signs with Real Madrid but there remains the chance he could move to Chelsea with Ramires heading elsewhere. Aguero remains a target but Thomas Muller looks more achievable. It is likely Martin Odegaard will also join recently arrived Mink Peeters in the U19s. Out will go Benzema, Khedira, Isco and, if they can move him on, Bale.}


 

 

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When you say, "from what I can find out" Ed, are those the noises coming from within the club?

Also, I was just wondering, what the players feelings towards Brendan at the moment? I'm sure they thought he was brilliant last season, however as cracks have appeared, has the general attitude changed?

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - yes, that is the noises I am getting, which is why I kept bringing his name into the convo in recent weeks.

It depends on the players, a lot of them are disillusioned with him and are fed up of not getting a look in, others love him for standing by them. That is all most players care about. The ones on the outside are growing though, as he is alienating more of them, along with the club's form being poor, so no one on the outside can accept being frozen out.}


 

 

 

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20 Mar 2017 19:09:58
A very good interesting read!

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02 Mar 2017 11:51:01
I've always thought Origi makes an impact when he comes off the bench.

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28 Feb 2017 11:16:38
Ok. Would Tierney be ready for the first team? Are we interested in him?

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - yes, yes, but so is everyone in Europe.}


 

 

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22 Feb 2017 09:16:39
Sorry ed, tech skills lacking this morning. This was in response to TopoftheKops post at 22.36 last night.

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry, I can't see that from the edit page mate.}


 

 

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17 Feb 2017 11:23:25
RTP Ed, I wasn't asking if he was of interest. Just seeing people's opinion of him as I think he's got all the attributes to become a very good striker but isn't getting much of a chance.

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - "What about Batshuayi as his replacement?" - this is the Liverpool page, if you want to waste everyone's time talking about players from other clubs go to the relevant page.}