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16 Jun 2017 17:52:28
Very rarely a poster of rumours, usually just ask questions, but I'm currently standing next to Peter Moore in Euston station.

He could be based down here of course, but if not, is something imminent?

ToonRed

1.) 16 Jun 2017 21:33:40
We've had an office in central London since 2014.


2.) 16 Jun 2017 23:57:55
So didn't you quiz him?


3.) 17 Jun 2017 15:40:05
Toon, you got to work on your rumours mate, as that was awful!


 

 

03 Jun 2015 15:14:19
Ed002, you've mentioned previously Mitrovic as a player that Liverpool should look at.

Is there any interest in him from us or anyone else in the prem?

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - here is interest in Anderlecht's Aleksandar Mitrović from Borussia Monchengladbach, Manchester United, Swansea, Dortmund, Newcastle and Eintracht Frankfurt. The interest of Leicester and Bayern Munich seems to have gone, but Arsenal may just look again at the player - depending on which direction they wish to go given their first choice as opted to moved elsewhere. The interest from Manchester United is recent. Newcastle are likely not an option - perhaps it will become clear when the managerial role is resolved. Probably now of reach of Swansea and Frankfurt.}


1.) 03 Jun 2015 19:32:01
Would he be a player that we would potentially look at as an option Ed?
Sorry for the vague question

{Ed002's Note - It is what I have said.}


 

 

27 Jan 2015 15:17:05
Our current right back situation is vastly over staffed in my opinion, with; Manquillo, Johnson, Flanno and McLaughlin.

I never understood why Rodgers brought in Manquillo in the first place, but are we planning on keeping him for the full two years?

Does anybody know if Flanno is going to be offered a new contract?

And somebody please tell me that Johnson is going to turn down this new contract offer?! If he is offered enough to stay with us and Flanno isn't offered a new contract, Rodgers will have officially lost his marbles, and you lot may argue but for this would actually be the final straw with Rodgers for me, as it demonstrates just how poorly our youngsters have been managed and I think it would speak volumes to others in the academy that no matter how hard you worked to force your way into the team (Flanno), you still won't get given the chance.

Also, I'm sure the Eds will agree, but really enjoying how quiet this January is

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - As far as I know the plan is to keep Manquillo for the two years - unless his club want him back after a year.}


1.) 27 Jan 2015 20:38:08
why keeping Manquillo? One of our worst signings and at least we can send him back to his club

{Ed002's Note - For a price.}


2.) 28 Jan 2015 13:02:43
Manquillo, one of our worst signings? Eh?


 

 

09 Nov 2014 13:09:31
Eds, really appreciating your the time and effort that you're putting in to answering everyone's questions and dealing with the mopes who are using the site as a place to vent after each poor performance.

Personally I don't think we need to buy anyone in January. We bought too many players in the summer for far too much money when we had youngsters who would have done equally as well and probably even better.

January should definitely be a selling window in order to trim our overstaffed squad. Eds, do you know of any players which will likely be sold come January?

Unfortunately I have a feeling it'll be the wrong players.

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - Sakho and Balotelli.}


1.) Edo1 how come these 2? would that still be true if Rodgers is gone?

{Ed001's Note - how on earth could I know what another manager would want before I even know who it is? Those two because Rodgers doesn't rate either, but that doesn't mean they would stay if he went.}


2.) How about Borini and Suso?

{Ed002's Note - I would think Suso will be looking to sign a pre-contract in January, that would suit him financially. I would think Borini is (a) priced out of a January move and (b) happy to wait until the summer. Balotelli has been offered to a number of clubs in England (3 I am aware of) and some in Italy (again 3 I am aware of). A move will hinge on the money, not just for the transfer, and that may be a problem. Kirikou would likely welcome a move to get first team football. Perhaps the summer will be an option for a move.}


3.) Will the committee set up also be scrapped ED? Those two players mentioned were never going to fit in the system BR prefers and they aren't the only ones. Money down the drain.

{Ed002's Note - You will need to wait and see what the way forward is/ Critical right now is an evaluation and the formulation of a plan.}


4.) Which English sides was mario offered to?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle.}


5.) Are LFC likely to make any money off Balotelli sale?

And why get rid of him after only half a season?

{Ed002's Note - There is no guarantee he will go. And if he does Liverpool will not be making any money out of a sale.}


6.) Eds, is it possible he could go before he let's a good player in sakho especially go? Because for me sakho is our best defender. Just because he fell out with him, is this what happens with every player he falls out with?

{Ed002's Note - He is 4th choice.}


7.) 10 Nov 2014 06:37:32
Ed002 can u say witch clubs for Mario?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}


 

 

24 Nov 2013 17:36:31
Ed001, you said yesterday that we're looking for someone for the midfield.

There has been a lot of strong speculation over Will Hughes and Macca thinking that we're still after Alonso, but who do you think we will try and get in January? {Ed001's Note - I believe we are intending to get someone with more power and pace for central midfield. The bit of bite we have been lacking (though in my opinion we should have just got Medel before Cardiff last summer), which is why I would not expect it to be Alonso. I also don't see Will Hughes in that category, so I am not expecting him, or at least not just him. While I would not be of the opinion he is the player I would want, I believe there is some interest in Diame, as a cheap option, so it is possible we move for him. Other than that, I am not sure who is likely right now, January is not a good time to buy.}

ToonRed

1.) Player like Ramirez would be good, are we still after MATIC? {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


2.) Ed I get what your saying but Medel is more trouble than he's worth. I think Diame would be a good buy and we could offer Allen on loan so that West Ham could use that money for an attacker.


3.) M'vila ed? was in the stands on saturday. {Ed002's Note - As a guest of Kirikou.}


4.) I keep hearing from the EDs that January 'isn't a good time to buy' but over the last few years, we've done some great business in January- Suarez, Coutinho, Sturridge. arguably our 3 best players and all of them made an instant impact. That would suggest we perform very well in the winter window. Is there any reason why the EDs think it's not a good time? {Ed002's Note - It is the middle of the season and teams do not want to be disrupted by sales.}


5.) Alonso has signed a new long term contract at RM, so won't be coming back here any time soon, if ever! {Ed001's Note - Haych, sorry I didn't deal with your reply so didn't spot your comment, but it is absolute lies. He is no trouble whatsoever! He works his backside off in training and plays where ever he is asked to play with no moans or whines. If you are referring to red cards, he is nothing like as bad as made out.}


6.) If only Kolo could convince his brother to sign as well


7.) Ed001, any chance of Fernando? From what i've seen he's a beast in midfield {Ed001's Note - he is certainly one that has been put forward and looked at, but I believe the asking price was ridiculous. I was told that Porto were asking for 30m+.}


8.) Eds001 what's your views on nzonzi, my opinion is he would also be a good cheap option with proven prem experience? {Ed001's Note - he is ok, just doesn't do enough for me, too prone to silly bookings, they never seem to be a case of taking one for the team, always down to a lack of discipline on his part.}


 

 

 

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18 Aug 2017 07:41:47
I see Alderweireld is stalling on a new contract. Too late in the window now for Spurs to consider selling, but I'd be over the moon if we brought him in in January or next summer.

ToonRed

1.) 18 Aug 2017 07:52:24
At this stage of his career he wants trophies. We don't look good for that at the moment. He'll go to Real Madrid, Chelsea or City.


2.) 18 Aug 2017 08:01:37
He wouldn't move to Liverpool anyways.


3.) 18 Aug 2017 08:01:53
Spot on, Dennis. I would love him at LFC as he is a leader and a very good CB and would thrive under any system. However, he like several Spurs players are itching to jump ship right now cos of the Spurs wage structure so don't be surprised if their stars start leaving one by one to get paid elsewhere.

{Ed001's Note - if they could see the club building on last season and showing ambition to win trophies, the wage structure would not be an issue. The problem is that most of them realise that, with Wembley as a 'home' stadium for a season or two, they have missed their best chance to win the league now.}


4.) 18 Aug 2017 11:08:17
Thanks for the insight, Ed. The players may be realizing that now cos Wembley for a season or two neutralizes home advantage for them hence, every team goes there with more hope and belief. This will only make it harder for Spurs to play.


 

 

08 Aug 2017 14:43:56
I don't understand why we aren't taking the same stance as RBL did with Keita and telling Couts very politely that he will have to wait another year no matter the offer that comes in from Barca.

He might be a bit miffed at first but being a World Cup year as well as being a good lad and a true professional he'll get on with it and play out of his skin.

Like Ed002 I believe all the players are transient employees of the club and life goes on, however considering we've completely ballsed up this transfer window up, pissed off a number of clubs, we wouldn't be able to find a replacement before the window closes. Therefore we've got to keep him for another year and make proper provisions for some sort of replacement next year.

If he does go now, clubs will hold us to ransom for whomever we go for, for an even bigger fee knowing how much we're raking in from Couts.

If we want to progress we have to stop selling our best player every other year.

ToonRed

1.) 08 Aug 2017 15:12:27
ToonRed, your post is brilliant and well-thought-out. I literally have nothing else to add. Hopefully, your hope comes true as I share it completely.


2.) 08 Aug 2017 16:23:46
Agree with most of what you have said, Toonred.

The only bit I don't agree with is that we have ballsed up this window.

If we keep Couts, and add VVD (which I still think we will do) then we will have added 3 players to our first team, strengthening positions that we had previously identified as needing strengthening - LB, LW and CB.

We've not got all of our first choices, and our behaviour as a club has been deplorable with the continuous tapping up, but the outcome (when you look back in time to come) will have been good.

Its a shame we didn't get Keita, but there's always next year and CM is an area in which we have a number of options. Sessengon - there's always next year if Fulham's view of us starts to thaw a bit, and we also get a chance to see how Robertson pans out.

Other than that, I agree with you!


3.) 08 Aug 2017 16:41:40
Exactly the point i made yesterday.
Owners need to grow some balls and they and everyone will benefit in the long run. Including Coutinho who regardless of Barca's take it or leave it stand, will come in again next summer or maybe earlier if we don't deliver in the PL or CL competitions.


 

 

26 Jul 2017 08:45:10
Just thinking out loud so don't shoot me down, if Pipco went, would you take Dele Alli?

Yes I know he's happy at Spurs and yes I know they wouldn't sell to us, but he's a Liverpool fan and we've got the cash.

ToonRed

1.) 26 Jul 2017 08:53:12
Well that's who we ought to sort it out if we lose him. They would sell for a price and he would join us. Still think coutinho will give us another year.


2.) 26 Jul 2017 09:06:04
Why would alli swap spurs for liverpool?


3.) 26 Jul 2017 09:06:16
I like Alli but not sure if he would replace the creativity that Coutinho gives us.


4.) 26 Jul 2017 09:18:20
We need to be consistently competing to be able to attract players from direct rivals. Currently, Spurs are competing more than we are.


5.) 26 Jul 2017 09:18:45
I would take alli at Liverpool. Don't like his attitude though.
As someone rightly said, why swap spurs for Liverpool?

I'd like asensio if coutinho goes. Never going to happen though.


6.) 26 Jul 2017 09:49:58
Dele Ali is/ was a Liverpool fan. It's an absolute long shot, but I could imagine that to be a reason why he may swap one day. But I imagine the next step for him is a super club.


7.) 26 Jul 2017 10:20:53
We missed our chance on Ali when we had the chance to sign him before he went to spurs.


8.) 26 Jul 2017 10:45:27
I can't even think how much Spurs would want for Delli Alli right now. North of 100 million in this market? English club to English club, young, in form.


9.) 26 Jul 2017 11:05:12
Alli would not move to LFC now. He will have one eye on Real, Bayern or Barcelona in a couple of seasons (unless Spurs miraculously start winning trophies or FSG throw 500k a week in his lap) .
Nor would he fit into the 4-3-3 Klopp prefers to play.
Gut feeling is Klopp always saw Keita as Coutinho's long term replacement.


10.) 26 Jul 2017 11:17:31
Be nice of we had alli seen up before he went to spurs.


11.) 26 Jul 2017 12:03:02
The price for Alli would be eye watering, close to 100million at least, and Levy ain't a mug he doesn't let players leave on the cheap. If it was feasible I would definitely take him though the lad is class.


12.) 26 Jul 2017 12:03:02
The price for Alli would be eye watering, close to 100million at least, and Levy ain't a mug he doesn't let players leave on the cheap. If it was feasible I would definitely take him though the lad is class.


13.) 26 Jul 2017 12:04:04
Ericsson would be a better buy for us than Alli.


 

 

20 Jul 2017 07:49:07
Ed, with regards to my post last night about if we had the right director of football, it would go away to solving a lot of our issues.

You rightly pointed out that we've appointed Michael Edwards as sporting director.

Surely he has to be held accountable for mis dealings in the transfer window? Either for sanctioning illegal approaches or for not reining in Klopp for the illegal approaches whilst on Edwards' watch? Not to mention clearly no social/ business skills or due diligence with dealing with vending clubs and hence why we're now stumbling around.

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - No. If you want to apportion blame it is Klopp. This has been done to death.}


1.) 20 Jul 2017 10:30:35
Surely it's both, Klopp has not acted appropriately and Edwards has not noticed or has allowed Klopp to carry on!


2.) 20 Jul 2017 11:23:40
What is the difference between Klopps meeting Van Dyke in Blackpool and Wenger meeting Mbappe for 3hrs. Neither club want to sell or accept any bid? This question keeps getting swerved.

{Ed002's Note - As I have already explained, Liverpool illegally approached a number of players after two warnings last summer, another warning this summer, a complaint to the Premier League and have already been banned for fouling up the career of a 12 year old leaving hios family in debt. You clearly know nothing of the Wenger meeting nor of the other two people who were present - nor I doubt the circumstances. Move on, this is embarrassing that you keep saying the same thing over and over again trying to deflect blame away from Klopp and the team who are absolutely bottom of the pile in terms of professionalism across European football.}


3.) 20 Jul 2017 12:15:02
All I'm saying Ed is, surely if Michael Edwards was doing his job properly, we might not be in such a mess. He should be taking control and if Klopp misbehaves, Edwards should let him know about it.

I didn't realise we'd discussed Edwards' role before, apologies if so.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is simply the blame culture loved by the Liverpool fans. They can't let go and scratch away at deflecting matters away from Klopp.}


4.) 20 Jul 2017 14:23:28
Ed I'm blaming both Klopp and Edwards. I think Klopp has acted appalling and needs calling in for it.

I don't think you understand where I'm coming from so in the interest of not irritating you, I'll leave it there. Thank you for your response Ed.


5.) 20 Jul 2017 14:38:37
So what you're saying is without any accepted bid for Mbappe it's absolutely ok Wenger met him and discussed his playing future and this is from a manager who'd like to sign him.

{Ed002's Note - It was nothing to do with any bid. It was not tapping up. You don't understand anything about those present. It is very, very embarrassing that you go on and on about this trying to deflect the gross and unacceptble behavior of Liverpool FC and Klopp.}


 

 

19 Jul 2017 18:00:26
Ed, clearly Liverpool aren't the most efficient or graceful in the transfer market, in fact I think we're getting worse in every way.

Do you think a good DoF would help us and rectify our errors?

I think Klopp worked under one at Dortmund (? ) so would be used to it.

You only have to look at Everton and City who have good DoFs and are working quickly, quietly and efficiently without upsetting anyone.

I think a lot of that is to do with asking the vending club 'how much for X? ' and then just paying it instead of trying to underpay by X%. By not stumping up the cash we seem to block the transfer for ourself by pissing off the vending club.

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - Yes I do and Liverpool has already appointed a Sporting Director and decided not to go with someone suitable.}


1.) 19 Jul 2017 18:59:21
Getting in a proper Director of Football will solve many problems for Liverpool.


2.) 19 Jul 2017 19:05:18
😂 @ ed002.

Post of the week 👍.


3.) 19 Jul 2017 19:13:12
Best statement I have read this transfer window Ed. Well done Toonred for bringing it up.


4.) 19 Jul 2017 19:55:32
Cheers DLR mate. Thought the record needed changing. Would be interested to hear everyone's thoughts .


5.) 19 Jul 2017 22:34:24
How does it make a difference if you don't want to pay what a club wants?

Lukaku done 90 mil. Morata done 70 mil. Walker done 54 mil.

If we can't afford keita or don't want to pay the big bucks then walk away stop pissin people around if you have no intention of paying what they want.

Keita is going to be around 70/ 80 mil. I know that and I'm just a fan who has nothing to go off apart from what's currently happening in the market. If we can't pay that then just get out of negotiating for him, esecially sith a club who ain't got no need for money and aren't interestes in haggling.


6.) 20 Jul 2017 05:37:05
It makes a difference Spider as a competent, quality DoF will prevent the club from making serious mistakes and pissing off all and sundry. Take the Keita transfer, for example - we deliberately tried to unsettle the player in order to engineer the move. Do you think RBL appreciated that? Do you think that softened there stance towards negotiations or hardened it? We, as a club, have burnt a lot of bridges and continued to act classless with regards to others clubs - a DoF, a good DoF, can help prevent such mishaps which would a) improve our reputation and perception within the footballing world and b) allow us much smoother negotiations with potential targets making the transfer more likely to make it over the line.

Add to that that a good DoF ensures the entire club has the same mindset and philosophy, from academy to first team, and you can imagine how much good that sort of cohesion does. A DoF does not guarantee you will sign every target you want - but it does go someway to helping the club approach things in the right way and this in turn should make a difference when negotiating transfers.


7.) 20 Jul 2017 09:18:03
Yeah because he will be in control of klopp internet access and phones?

Klopp made those calls. Made those decisions. Not anyone above at the club.


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2017 11:27:13
Throw in Sakho and/ or Moreno and/ or Markovic to Monaco plus cash for Mendy?

Before anyone says, I know this isn't FM and am only half joking but does seem to be some talk of adding a player to deals this morning to reduce the cash cost.

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14 Apr 2017 07:20:45
Thanks Ed001! These are the kind of posts we all live off.

Have you heard anything on Brandt or Moussa Dembele?

Sorry, at the risk of sounding thick, are Fulham unlikely to sell Sessegnon to us due to what happened with the kid from Stoke?

I'd love to get him personally, but certainly wouldn't be annoyed with either Gaya or Pereira.

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - Brandt, I have nothing to add over and above what Ed002 has already said. Dembele looks to be one we don't go for due to his demands over first team football. He has the potential to be brilliant, but he has had a fair few indifferent games of late. I doubt it will be us willing to give him assurances, even if we did, I am not so sure they would be enough for him.

Partially that is a problem, but it is also our actions in the past with regards to transfers. We need to rebuild some bridges there, as the club have not yet forgiven us for the tapping up of Dempsey.

I really like Gaya, don't know why, but each time I see him he looks too good for that Valencia side. It is hard to tell though, as the whole team there is shambolic at times.}


 

 

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26 May 2016 08:13:34
That doesn't sound good Ed?

ToonRed

{Ed001's Note - I don't understand what you mean? A player no one thinks is good enough will be moved on if possible, what is there to not sound good about it?}


 

 

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11 Nov 2015 08:00:05
Hjikle. Because it's a rumour .

Personally I miss the days of the crazy rumours that were the reason for this site.

Pele arriving in his knickers hand in hand with Ken Aguero at Liverpool airport ready to buy the club - brilliant!

Cheers.

ToonRed

 

 

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26 Dec 2014 18:18:45
Where would we be able to find these Madrid plans Ed?

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - The Real Madrid page would make more sense. So, just to clear this up - Marco Reus, Lucas Silva, Thomas Muller and David Alaba remain the targets for Real Madrid after agreement has been reached with Marco Asensio. Additional interest in Chelsea's Ramires is the balance if Lucas Silva signs with Real Madrid but there remains the chance he could move to Chelsea with Ramires heading elsewhere. Aguero remains a target but Thomas Muller looks more achievable. It is likely Martin Odegaard will also join recently arrived Mink Peeters in the U19s. Out will go Benzema, Khedira, Isco and, if they can move him on, Bale.}


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2017 19:20:33
Lucas did .

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23 Jul 2017 19:14:14
My first choice was Gisele, life doesn't always work out the way you planned. Move on Ed.

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20 Jul 2017 14:23:28
Ed I'm blaming both Klopp and Edwards. I think Klopp has acted appalling and needs calling in for it.

I don't think you understand where I'm coming from so in the interest of not irritating you, I'll leave it there. Thank you for your response Ed.

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20 Jul 2017 12:15:02
All I'm saying Ed is, surely if Michael Edwards was doing his job properly, we might not be in such a mess. He should be taking control and if Klopp misbehaves, Edwards should let him know about it.

I didn't realise we'd discussed Edwards' role before, apologies if so.

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - No, it is simply the blame culture loved by the Liverpool fans. They can't let go and scratch away at deflecting matters away from Klopp.}


 

 

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19 Jul 2017 19:55:32
Cheers DLR mate. Thought the record needed changing. Would be interested to hear everyone's thoughts .

ToonRed