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04 Dec 2017 12:25:09
Eds, i remember on the sharkopod that you said Barcelona would look to get a deal done before the end of november as one of the key instigators of the deal would no longer be involved and this would lead to them viewing other targets. In this situation, is it possible we could see coutinho stay a bit longer in a de gea to real madrid scenario? Or would he definately try and force a move to another team like psg, madrid, maybe even juventus to replace dybala?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, we are now beyond the end of November and they will be considering their options. It is possible that Coutinho could move in January or the Summer but be clear he wants out. Coutinho is not of interest to Juventus and he is not first choice for Real Madrid. PSG might retain and interest but it is Barcelona who want him and that is where the player wants to go.}

1.) 04 Dec 2017 19:56:00
Up to Barcelona to make us an acceptable offer. The ball is in their court. 🤝.

2.) 05 Dec 2017 03:05:38
Barca will once again resort to underhand tactics to get Coutinho cheap. We trust Henry to duke it out with them.



10 Apr 2017 20:29:48
Just read that coutinho rejected the requests of the coaches to stay at home, so he could make the bench for the game on saturday, then to come off the bench and score. This is the exact attitude and type of player we need here at liverpool, hats off to him.

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1.) 10 Apr 2017 23:22:10
Couts has to stay, build our team around him, need another Mane .

2.) 11 Apr 2017 00:53:45
What would you do with another Mane if you've built your team around Coutinho?

3.) 11 Apr 2017 02:02:09
Coutinho was always needee to stay. He didn't need to do anything like that to justify it.

Hes our boy. Show him the love and he will give you the heart.

4.) 11 Apr 2017 03:24:35
build another mane and mane running around firmino!? and then someone can get their dream of firmino in central midfield realised.! :p.

5.) 11 Apr 2017 03:52:08
probably the best £8.5m the club has ever spent.

6.) 11 Apr 2017 06:07:23
Sure the best 8.5 we ever spent was on ings, that free transfer.

7.) 11 Apr 2017 08:25:26
support coutinho zimbo, as Mane has done.

8.) 11 Apr 2017 15:26:17
Don't worry I'd happily take another Mane! Just not sure if we'll get someone of his level to join with no obvious starting spot. Think hopefully Coutinho, Firmino and Mane will be our starting lineup and wouldn't want to see that changed myself.

9.) 11 Apr 2017 15:41:46
kudos couts, however if and when he is not in form let's remember this instead of wanting him out.

10.) 11 Apr 2017 21:18:01
The problem with football these days is that the Doctors think they pick the team. Hats off to Coutinho for his positive attitude and nonsense to all that red zone, orange zone, green zone crap.

11.) 12 Apr 2017 01:28:00
He must be mad. If someone offered me the day off id take 2.

12.) 12 Apr 2017 09:17:18
Haha that's good one mingo.



20 May 2016 17:56:44
From what i can work out the players we are interested in are:


I have never seen any of those players play but i guess any addition at goalkeeper and left back is welcome. Zielinski and silva seem slightly unneccasary unles we get rid of a lot of players. Hector is apparently more defensive minded which is exactly what we need. I was still hoping for perhaps a holding mid to push Can and Henderson more but maybe Grujic is that player. However i fail to see the point of chilwell as he is just another joe gomez surely? And personally i like joe gomez so i'd much rather see him or smith given a chance.

The outs that everybody can virtually agree on are:

And all the academy players who will be moving on.

If all that happens i'd consider it a very successful summer and cannot wait for next season with a squad of klopps own players.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 20 May 2016 18:09:47
Lallana will stay, Klopp said as much the other day. I can't see Milner moving on either on his wages and the sort of club he'd want to go to.

2.) 20 May 2016 18:54:38
Joe Gomez is a cb not a lb Rodgers just stuck him there like he did Flanagan. I really like Gomez he's got a lot of promise, good with the ball at his feet, is comfortable with a challenge and not bad in the air. just hope he comes back from injury well.

3.) 20 May 2016 18:54:50
Milner's leading our assists table. I'd keep him on the condition that he's usually played on the right of midfield rather than in the middle.

4.) 20 May 2016 19:07:00
AW, Migs not be moving, neither will Milner. Lallana, I think, may make way for Goetze, but not necessarily. I think illori will move on too.

5.) 20 May 2016 19:53:12
Aren't we also interested/ linked with another midfielder? Dhroud is it?

6.) 20 May 2016 19:58:53
Perhaps Goetze will replace Coutinho? Barcelona have been looking recently and something was said earlier in the year, about him wanting to move on if there is no champions league football at Liverpool.

It wouldn't surprise me if a decent offer came in for him at least. We're not in a position where we can reject the advances of clubs like Barcelona, we haven't got the finances and we don't have any European competition next season.

One thing is for sure, Coutinho will not sell cheap, so if he does leave we'll at least get a tidy sum for him.

7.) 20 May 2016 20:44:40
I don't think Goetze and Coutinho are related at all. I would aso be not so sure either of Hector or Silva are coming in. While Liverpool has scouted both players, we have not made any effort to move for them, and are concentrating on bringing in Zielinski, Chilwell, Karius and seemingly Goetze.

8.) 20 May 2016 21:36:46
Mignolet has a 5yr contract.
He will not be leaving unless some fool offers us more than his contract is worth.

9.) 20 May 2016 22:09:24
im sure whoever klopp buys will be the right player for the team, he knows what he needs to do after this season so i will put my faith in him to get it right instead of trying to second guess him, if he brings these players in then he needs them yes we have other players in the team already but he might not see a future for them because unlike us he sees them every day and knows there weaknesess, like lallana for instance he is a good player but there's hardley any end product from him and i don't think he is at the right standard for us maybe Zielinski will have a better end product because these 2 are very a like, also the players he is buying he is getting them cheap not like BR who over spent on players, its so refreshing that he is getting players this cheap for a change,

10.) 20 May 2016 23:47:07
Great insight despite having never seen any of them play.

11.) 21 May 2016 01:11:06
I don't agree Lallana and Milner should go. 2 of our most consistent performers under Klopp. Allen could do a job as a squad player. Moreno - has still (some) time to learn how to defend. Not sure he will though!

12.) 21 May 2016 07:00:34
AndyM, lalana should go if Gotze replace him. Milner can go if we get Zielinski.

13.) 21 May 2016 14:52:38
Andym that mean no one significant leaving and based on that no one coming in. Simple tranfer window.

14.) 22 May 2016 00:45:17
Skrtel, Benteke and Allen, if he moves, all significant 'Outs'. I don't see CM as a priority for strengthening. Matip and Grujic both significant 'Ins' already done. A GK and Lb needed (Lb whether Moreno stays or goes) . I hope for a lot from Ings next season.



21 Mar 2016 20:45:32
Everything points to skrtel being sold. Ilori and wisdom likely to follow in all honesty. He won't even play ilori ahead of lucas at centre back.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 21 Mar 2016 20:59:00
Managing with a iron fist. What the squad needs. Given a chance. Not good enough you're gone.



24 Feb 2016 23:14:17
Ed002, do you have any info on these supposed claims that sturridge may want to leave?

Various people seem to think there's something in it and i believe you have said in the past he could leave, unless i am mistaken.

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{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure he doesn't want to leave. He will want to prove himself to be fit and be a regular starter.}

1.) 25 Feb 2016 08:09:37
I genuinely thought mountains were being made out of molehills by this entire situation. People were looking for updates when there was no update to give. I'm fairly certain Klopp came out at one stage during it and said studge needs a 'pre season' of sorts before he could play which made sense in my mind because it was breaking the perpetual cycle of injury > recover > thrown back in straight away > inevitable break down
Only time will tell if the cycle has been broken so fingers crossed.

{Ed002's Note - Sturridge was, quite correctly, eased back in. If he picks up an injury now because too much is being asked too soon then the finger will point directly at the coaching staff.}

2.) 25 Feb 2016 08:18:21
I agree it's a difficult balancing act for Klopp and co. Play him too much and he will most certainly break down again, don't play him enough and you'll have certain sections of the media/ supporters blasting management for not playing our best player and will come out with ridiculous rumours and theories. Common sense rarely prevails!

3.) 25 Feb 2016 11:50:19
Eds and Reds would I be right in saying that the majority of his injuries have come in training rather than a competitive match? Not sure where I'm going with this, but perhaps he needs the Ledley King treatment?

4.) 25 Feb 2016 12:16:24
I'll take the Ed's word on this, paper talk is generally made sensationalism. With any luck he can put this all behind him, Studge is a top class finisher and a tremendous player, so I am glad to see him back.




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23 Jan 2018 17:55:57
Bit of a break from the doom and gloom of last night.

Its clear in england that the reliability and capability of academies to produce decent, first team players is way behind that of almost every other european country. What do the eds and posters think the main factor behind this is and what can be done to improve the situation?

I can probably identify 3 or 4 main reasons. The first is that due to the influx of money into the premier league compared to other countries, is that youngsters are being payed far too much. I have no evidence to say they are not being payed as much in other countries, i am simply saying what i have seen. As a lad around the age of many academy players at the moment, i have seen myself the effect it has on the lads my age. Almost all of them have become arrogant, irresponsible, and do not try as hard as they used to. They lap up the benefits of the lifestyle, milk it for all its worth and then eventually get dropped. Flash cars that are regularly getting crashed and going out on the lash, expensive clothes, the vanity and effects it has had on them is disturbing. There have been rumours in the past about everton graduates (who i will not name) who have played for the first team regarding substance abuse and completely irresponsible behaviour. They cannot be bothered trying and are not incentivised under the current free market model on young player wages. The only solution i can propose would be a wage cap across england for players up until they are 21/ 23, but as is always the case in football, nothing will ever be done.

The second is the excessive and bizzare amount of money spent on foreign academy players. Im not sure why clubs think this is a good idea as being a talented prospect at 16 means absolutely zilch, yet clubs swan round buying players from other countries, blocking the way of lads here, with no result. Its as if they believe its football manager and that all young players with good ability in their mid teens will become world beaters, please reference the reputation of Cherno Samba and Freddy Adu on football manager, compared to how their respective careers actually played out. Why not just try and coach the lads who have played in your academy or country their whole lives, instead of blocking their path with countless 'next Zidanes' or 'next George Weahs', likely spotted on a highlight reel on Sport Bible or something? Use the lads at your disposal and maybr, just maybe, coach them to be better?! Again, maybe there should be a cap on the amount of foreign players allowed in academy age groups, but what do i know.

The third reason i can put forward is the ridiculous media circle and pressure put on both teams and youngsters in England. In spain, players are allowed to develop up until their mid 20's. Xavi only became a nailed on starter in his mid 20's. Gerrard only truly evolved into a world class player around 2004. Alonso, Drogba, Robben, Kane, there's just so many examples i could really go on forever. These players were given time and chances to become great. But now the standard is that you have to perform as soon as you come into the team and there is absolutely no room for improvement. I feel there is less pressure and criticism in other countries where football fans tend to be less mindless and are relaxed about giving young players minutes on the pitch and years to develop. Maybe its because of the cash incentives for finishing higher up the league, or the cost of missing out on the champions league and avoiding relegation? Whatever the reason, clubs in other countries seem more than happy to let young players be a part of the squad and give them the time and respect they need to develop, rather than the 'build them up and knock them down' mentality of the press and fans in england. they're all the reasons i can come up with but im interested to see what the eds have to say.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 23 Jan 2018 18:25:27
Nice read, I enjoyed that.

2.) 23 Jan 2018 18:41:55
AW a great read, thanks.

3.) 24 Jan 2018 07:23:54
Pretty fair assessment there AW I think personally - money being the common denominator and problem.
I'm watching football since the 80's when money was only starting to be seen in football really.
I remember hearing about Dean Saunders being sold to Liverpool from Derby County in the early 90's for £2.9m (breaking the UK transfer record if not mistaken) and getting himself £3k a week and I almost spat out my school canteen lunch.

We had players like David Burrows/ Steve Staunton/ Mike Marsh etc, good in their own right, but not great yet who were in their early 20's, they wouldn't make the reserves these days with the number of foreign kids possibly, yet Liverpool of the late 80's were as good as any club in Europe at the time.

The only "foreign" kids were Northern or Southern Irish, the odd Scandinavian perhaps, but that was about it - how I yearn for those days.

Without going too political, I think we have to forget the foreigner tag now to a degree as this is the way life generally has gone, not just in football, there are scores of non UK individuals working in pretty much every role these days, this might change after Brexit of course but unlikely to in Football, as when there's money to be lost, they'll find a way to work around it.

People say, "if they're talented enough, they'll get spotted", I don't agree with that myself as there are many variables as to why you may not be seen by scouts and the likes.

My question is, why not take the Eric Dier route?
Go play in the Pro League in Belgium, or Portugal like Dier did?
Lower level leagues yes, but still, you may well get games and work yourself a move back to the bigger clubs in England or elsewhere.
Look at that kid who joined Dortmund in the summer from Man City, fair play to the lad for doing so, as he probably saw no way forward there, who knows why he went exactly but at least he had the stones to try it.

Many youths grow up around drugs or thugs, both or even worse in some cases, my advice is to get away from it (not saying Sancho did by the way) .
You might reap the benefits if failing at home.
English players don't usually take this route though for some reason.



23 Jan 2018 00:28:07
I would not read too much into that game, as horrible as it was. This is football and it does happen. Streaks do not last forever and our unbeaten run was bound to end; we have found it ending at 18 games. No small feat. We had some chances and did not take them, our goal came from calmatous defending from all corners and i feel is a tactical and coaching related error that lies with klopp.

What i do think is worth noting is that while our front 3 did not take their chances to score, they realistically cannot be improved as they have been fantastic all season. We conceded a silly goal, but our defence was never going to fix itself in 5 minutes.

In games like this you need other players to step up. And to that, i would say to look at the midfield. Ox was not great tonight but he is a work in progress and has been very consistent every time he has played. But who hasn't been consistent this season, or indeed for their entire liverpool career? Oh yes, Can and Wijnaldum.

We needed a bit of magic from midfield tonight, the magic coutinho, gerrard, or even alonso used to bring. It was not there. Our midfield is not up to scratch when the going gets tough. Whether it be a piece of skill, dribbling, a set piece, a hollywood ball, tracking back, speeding up the play, a one two with another player, a run from deep - all were totally absent.

Wijnaldum, when he can be bothered to turn up, is a fantastic player. He can turn games on their head single handedly on his day. He also only does this in maybe 2 of every 15 games. Other players who share this trait spring to mind: Lanzini, Arnautovic, Sigurdsson, Benteke, Shaqiri, Boufal, Doucoure, Diame. And what is the common denominator between all these players? Its that they all play for midtable clubs. They may look very good on the highlight reel, but
cannot make the step up to top clubs, as they cannot meet the demands of consistency, attitude and the ability to perform under intense pressure. Unfortunately, it appears Wijnaldum is one of these players. Can also falls into this category but his head has been turned by a move abroad, which makes his continued selection even more baffling. I don't think you will find any fans of their respective clubs saying that David Silva, De Bruyne or Kante ever go missing in matches. Im obviously not saying it is easy to find such players but that is the standard we must aspire to, and it is not the standard we are anywhere near to. I did recently reply to a post questioning our ambitions this season with this argument. It has been proven tonight. We looked much better when lallana came on (reference for anybody calling for him to be sold) and if henderson was fit, firing and being played correctly, we would look better still. Keita is coming in at some point and this should rectify some of this. But make no mistake about it, we need a coutinho replacement, and a more disciplined player than Can, before next season begins, if these kind of results are to be turned into wins.

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{Ed0333's Note - I was hugely disappointed with Mane again tonight mate. He’s not showed up since the League Derby. He’s had enough time to come good i would give Woodburn a go in that left berth. I’ve said it time and time again our midfield is built on a foundation of sand. It needs a massive overhaul and we need to replace Hendo, Can and Gini. You can’t carry three players in the Premier League especially not a whole midfield. You just can’t beat the top side in the division one week and then lose to the bottom. Again we had two guilt edged chances the Salah and Mane ones and failed to convert. Swansea were magnificent and yes they time wasted but I’m not gonna hold that against them we should have beaten them over 90 minutes. Rant over.

1.) 23 Jan 2018 06:33:07
The three of them are too similar all get the ball recycle it don’t move it quickly or incisively enough hopefully Keita can make a big difference next season.

2.) 23 Jan 2018 11:43:36
Yesterday proves our midfield needs Keita +1, whether that 1 is, for example, Pulisic, or a more defensive orientated Strootman, for example.

I have faith enough to persevere with Ox in the central 3, and Keita of course, but Can is off, Gini is way to inconsistent and Milner is not a CM. Hendo is exactly the sort we need, but injured too much.

For me, with the addition of another great CM, we look like having a strong first choice 3, with Hendo for experienced depth (hopefully, without having to play 90 mins twice a week he can find some injury respite) and then the likes of Grujic and Ejaria for less experienced depth.

I would also like someone like Fekir or Lemar to a) give more options in the front 3 as well as Woodburn and b) allow us to play a more attacking middle 3 once games allow.

We do need an experienced, pacy CB alongside VVD. Gomez is only 20, so he has plenty of time to develop into that role but just throwing him in as first choice is dangerous both for us and his career. However, with VVD + 1, with Gomez allowing depth as well as (my choice) Klavan, we would look pretty stable. An experienced partner for VVD would mean that either of them could be rested, with Gomez or Klavan coming in.

Finally, we need that GK, imo. Although Karius was not at fault for the goal at all, I really fear about that near post thing. Its such a basic point (I remember being taught that as a primary school goalie when 9!) that it shouldn't have cropped up twice in 2 games. Alisson, on Ed001's recommendation, would be great, with Karius or Ward as reserve, and an experienced 3rd choice like Reina who can then develop a coaching role.

Make it so, Mr Klopp!



11 Jan 2018 13:24:09
Jason Burt from the telegraph said the same as macca yesterday, but i did not want to repeat it as he is a mere mortal journalist. So there is likely something in what macca is saying. I think if we take into account comments klopp has made in the past, and the type of player he likes, i'd say david silva and isco would be two players it could possibly be. The telegraph journalist also said they felt targeting this player was totally unrealistic, so it really could be someone in that echelon.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 11 Jan 2018 13:32:49
I think it's the other way around. After reading Macca's post maybe Jason Burt is credible for a moment.

2.) 11 Jan 2018 13:50:36
You could well be right there mate.

3.) 11 Jan 2018 14:22:59
Maybe Jason Burt is Macca!



07 Jan 2018 15:29:53
I am the last person who would want us to make a signing for the sake of it or to sign the wrong player, but taking into account that we know goretzka and meyer can negotiate pre contracts or move on the cheap, that brandt, mahrez and lemar all wanting to leave their clubs, lemar being rumoured to be interested in the move to liverpool, and that keita is desperate to leave RBL, it would be rather disappointing if nothing was to be completed by the end of the transfer window.

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{Ed002's Note - Goretzka is keen on the move to Bayern Munich. Meyer is awating an offer from Schalke but has another English side waiting to speak with him. Liverpool purchased Salah because Brandt wasn't interested - and he is aware of interest from elsewhere for the summer. Mahrez I thought had already joined Liverpool? Lemar is not for sale at this time - as has been explained to the clubs that spoke with Monaco. Liverpool have already agreed to pay over the odds foir Keita but could certainly throw more money at RBL - who say Keita is quite happy to see the season out - which is what they want.}

1.) 07 Jan 2018 15:53:12
Ed2 so one of the Ed’s said where looking to replace him this month so you seemed to of ruled everyone out so who are we looking at?

{Ed002's Note - I am not ruling everyone out, simply explaining the situation with each of the players mentions. It was me who identified the likes of Meyer, Goretzka and Lemar originally. If you would prefer a more cheerful outlook - try the fat kid from Bolton Twitter who has announced both Lemar and mahrez today.}

2.) 07 Jan 2018 15:56:27
It’s not a case of ‘signing for signings sake’ but it’s been a long time coming this transfer and one would assume (and I trust the board) have some plan in mind not preparing in advance would be suicidal.

3.) 07 Jan 2018 15:59:40
Well eds that doesn’t leave us much options on the list we’ve had of players available that we’ve supposedly had interest in . maybe Liverpool will surprise us and throw in a curve ball and get someone we haven’t mentioned. or then again we might just bide our time and wait till summer where prices come down quite considerably. whatever happens I’m not to worried cause even with couts gone I don’t think we’re to shabby going forward. 👍.

4.) 07 Jan 2018 16:01:33
😂😂😂😂 fat kid from Bolton who’s that? I was just interested to see where u see interest that’s all.

{Ed002's Note - Someone will know the name of the account.}

5.) 07 Jan 2018 16:22:20
Prices may well go up in the summer mate, WC will be played.

6.) 07 Jan 2018 16:44:24
Read somewhere that Oblak has a buyout clause at £100m. Goretzka might be available for 15-20. Lemar will cost over 100 if it can be done at all.

What do you say boys and girls: the pair of them or Lemar for the PC £?

7.) 07 Jan 2018 16:45:42
We should probably approach R. Madrid for Ceballos on loan, and reassess our options at the end of the season.

8.) 07 Jan 2018 18:47:23
Ed2, i think lfc fans forget that the footballing world doesn't revolve around Liverpool's plans.



07 Jan 2018 02:13:44
And so the cycle of moaning starts again.

Firstly i would like to say thankyou for all the memories, the crazy goals and all the trophys that we were never able to win with coutinho. Its just a shame he was not able to leave more amicably as he really was something of a local hero, if more than anything the manner of how he has left has gutted me far more than the fact that he has. The fact i had more empathy for suarez when he left than coutinho, even after suarez tried to eat a man, says a lot.

But the earth keeps spinning and the reds will keep banging in tricky goals. At least we have a good team now as opposed to when suarez left.

But now we get into the really fun debate of who should replace coutinho, and already, people are getting a bit upset, namely that mahrez may replace him. From my point of view the criticism is a typical unfair assessment of thinking every player in a foreign league is better because we do not watch them every week.

Two key things here. Firstly, i think people are drastically overstating how good coutinho actually is and that we have somehow lost in this scenario. Coutinho is a good player but even in this insanely inflated market, he isn't worth anything close to £140 million. We have fully mugged barcelona off, they are still reeling and panicking from the neymar transfer. I don't even think he is clever enough for their team to be honest. He is a very direct player whose game mainly revolves around running at the defense and cutting inside, or shooting from range. And he is very good at it, albeit not with the consistency barcelona need. He is not intelligent enough to control the game like iniesta or gerrard, nor is he intelligent enough to run a defense ragged with selfless play like firmino, messi or hazard. Even though he has good balance and feet, he still isn't a patch on players like zidane, ronaldo, ronaldihno or neymar. He is a good player, we have lost our talisman, but he is not that great. Dare i say it, he is quite one dimensional. Very good at what he does, but i do not think it will be too difficult to replace, and he could be quite a selfish player on the ball.

Secondly, we now we have to replace him, who can we realistically get? All the best players are at clubs who are never ever going to sell to us. Isco, hazard, silva, ozil, these players would be ideal replacements but are never going to happen in a million years. So the next person who comments on a post saying 'no, we need to buy top class players' should instead post a lengthy essay on which player they are referring to, why they would be an ideal replacement and why they are obtainable, because i am really not seeing many options.

Lemar could be an option. Draxler, could be an option. Brandt could be an option. Fekir could be an option. I don't watch these players an awful lot, but then again i don't go around telling people how amazing these players are compared to mahrez, when the reality is that i have just not watched these players enough to understand the flaws in their game. From what i have seen of lemar he has talent, but at £90 million it is not the same kind of refined talent that de bruyne or hazard had on display when they moved to the premier league, talent and consistency so great that it was clear adapting to the new league would never be a problem. For me lemar has the potential to be a bit risky, a bit of a flake, another markovic or di maria waiting to happen. So does draxler, so does brandt.

In england, we very much have a culture of fantasising over foreign names we have never seen kick a ball, and also not appreciating the talent we have in our own country and not giving it a chance. Mahrez is a very good player who is premier league proven, a former player of the year winner, who shares a lot of coutinho's attributes. He is coming into his prime years and has attracted the attention of barcelona in the past, which is no mean feat. He is also, let us not forget, a premier league champion, already winning more with leicester than coutinho has with us.

So why the stick? Well, he has been the unfortunate victim of the english press and was somehow blamed for ranieri's poor management and incompetence, a scapegoat for the failure of their 'flavour of the month' manager. I have a hard time making these allegations of poor attitude stick. As long as the lad really wants to join liverpool then the rest will follow. I haven't heard anything but complaints of poor attitude for almost every player liverpool have bought in recent times. Mane, van dijk, chamberlain, wijnaldum. they've all turned out alright. I don't think klopp is stupid enough to buy someone he considers trouble.

Like i say, fans are more inclined to think players they have never seen play are better than those in their own league, and i think that seems to be the key to both the mahrez transfer and the key to klopps transfer policy. Klopp himself knows the difficulties of adapting to the premier league. He understands the importance of buying players from within the league, players who are settled in the country and already have a grasp of what they are joining for when they move to your team. Its the reason why he was willing to splash out so much on van dijk, because he has realised that having a vocal leader who is composed and comfortable is more important than a foreign player who may have more talent on paper, but is not comfortable in the country. A lot of our signings are more in their mid 20's now as opposed to around 20, which is also a deliberate shift under klopp. Based on the success and logic of that approach so far, i really don't understand the uproar over mahrez, it makes perfect sense to me. And even if you do not want to sign mahrez, please leave a decent explanation why and what you would do differently in this whole situation, rather than bashing the club and players who haven't joined us yet, and generally making january an even more unpleasant month than it already is.

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1.) 07 Jan 2018 08:03:01
Why do you assume that no-one has watched players based abroad multiple times? People do watch more than just the premier league. Similarly, many folks will only ever see mahrez on match of the day (outside of the two games against us) . that's hardly an accurate assessment either.




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09 Mar 2018 13:07:23
Klopp is a great coach himself and Can has not improved one iota under him and is almost in his mid-twenties, I honestly just don't think he is that great.

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22 Jan 2018 14:06:37
Is klopp aware of these further meetings ed002? Honestly if it carries on id happily sell him in the summer. Who the hell does he think he is, looking for a move 6 months after joining the club.

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{Ed002's Note - Whether Klopp is aware or not (I imagine he is) there is nothing wrong with his agent talking to Madrid.}



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18 Jan 2018 01:33:07
Indeed, the ex Barcelona president did say that, and i actually believe him. I actually find it quite insulting that players want to go to madrid so badly. When you go there its never about the football, its about the image. No culture or grace, just flashyness. If you go you can guarantee that the boss that brought you in will be gone in a few months and you will probably be sold for being too ugly, having fisticuffs with Princess Ronaldo, or because they have found a player even flashier than yourself to replace you. As awesome as their champions league success has been in recent years, it disgusts me they are at the top of the footballing food chain.

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14 Jan 2018 15:23:12
What on earth are you all talking about he will join us in the summer, if we brought it forward then we would still have to bring in another midfielder it changes very little, plus he is cup tied.

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14 Jan 2018 12:41:05
A sensible move in my opinion. We can't go round smashing transfer records left right and centre. £75 million for van dijk even makes me uncomfortable, so £90 million for lemar seems even more ridiculous. If the player wants to join us as badly as is implied then he will find a way to join us, a summer move may be best for him, he has to knuckle down for the second half of the season to earn a move though.

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{Ed002's Note - Lemar is not a player who is going to force a move anywhere.}




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14 Mar 2018 18:50:20
Humans make mistakes and Carra has not hid one bit since the incident, he knows exactly what he has done, this modern obsession with sacking people for committing a single, redeemable act of idiocy is nothing short of a witch hunt, it is simply another case of people picking and choosing their arguments. My response would be exactly the same if it was Gary Neville.

Ask yourselves, would you sack Salah if he had been caught in the same circumstances? Or why is it that people continue to subscribe to Sky Sports, despite having the same owners as the S*n and many other vile newspapers?

Too many knee jerk reactions in this world, everything has turned into a PR game whereby every corporation and individual is trying their absolute best to appear as inoffensive, squeaky clean and PC as the next. Carra is human. Give it a rest.

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14 Mar 2018 18:50:20
Humans make mistakes and Carra has not hid one bit since the incident, he knows exactly what he has done, this modern obsession with sacking people for committing a single, redeemable act of idiocy is nothing short of a witch hunt, it is simply another case of people picking and choosing their arguments. My response would be exactly the same if it was Gary Neville.

Ask yourselves, would you sack Salah if he had been caught in the same circumstances? Or why is it that people continue to subscribe to Sky Sports, despite having the same owners as the S*n and many other vile newspapers?

Too many knee jerk reactions in this world, everything has turned into a PR game whereby every corporation and individual is trying their absolute best to appear as inoffensive, squeaky clean and PC as the next. Carra is human. Give it a rest.

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13 Mar 2018 21:53:46
For anybody questioning why the liverpool fans genuinly don't think united are that good, that's all the evidence you need. That is what SHOULD have happened at the weekend, but thanks to luck we ended up the losing team. United are one of the biggest teams in world football, are the richest team in world football, and yet still play defensive football at home to teams with far inferior resources. We may have lost the game at the weekend through gritted teeth, but united are a joke. I have no doubt which side is closer to the league title. Take De Gea out of that united side and they are not that special.

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06 Mar 2018 03:02:33
Honestly kimura, saying they are stoke with more money is an insult to stoke. Having said that, chelsea's performance yesterday was shocking, i don't know whether conte's own personal situation played a hand, but to see the league champions play like that for a full 90 minutes was a disgrace.

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05 Mar 2018 22:39:52
It changes nothing. While finishing above united would be nice we still have to get points from them, chelsea and everton. They will not be the ones to potentially drop out of the top 4, us, chelsea or spurs will, united have too much in the way of resources in that squad at the moment. We still have to get a result and for me the key game is against chelsea. Win that and our place is all but assured.

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