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10 Apr 2017 20:29:48
Just read that coutinho rejected the requests of the coaches to stay at home, so he could make the bench for the game on saturday, then to come off the bench and score. This is the exact attitude and type of player we need here at liverpool, hats off to him.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 10 Apr 2017 23:22:10
Couts has to stay, build our team around him, need another Mane .

2.) 11 Apr 2017 00:53:45
What would you do with another Mane if you've built your team around Coutinho?

3.) 11 Apr 2017 02:02:09
Coutinho was always needee to stay. He didn't need to do anything like that to justify it.

Hes our boy. Show him the love and he will give you the heart.

4.) 11 Apr 2017 03:24:35
build another mane and mane running around firmino!? and then someone can get their dream of firmino in central midfield realised.! :p.

5.) 11 Apr 2017 03:52:08
probably the best £8.5m the club has ever spent.

6.) 11 Apr 2017 06:07:23
Sure the best 8.5 we ever spent was on ings, that free transfer.

7.) 11 Apr 2017 08:25:26
support coutinho zimbo, as Mane has done.

8.) 11 Apr 2017 15:26:17
Don't worry I'd happily take another Mane! Just not sure if we'll get someone of his level to join with no obvious starting spot. Think hopefully Coutinho, Firmino and Mane will be our starting lineup and wouldn't want to see that changed myself.

9.) 11 Apr 2017 15:41:46
kudos couts, however if and when he is not in form let's remember this instead of wanting him out.

10.) 11 Apr 2017 21:18:01
The problem with football these days is that the Doctors think they pick the team. Hats off to Coutinho for his positive attitude and nonsense to all that red zone, orange zone, green zone crap.

11.) 12 Apr 2017 01:28:00
He must be mad. If someone offered me the day off id take 2.

12.) 12 Apr 2017 09:17:18
Haha that's good one mingo.



20 May 2016 17:56:44
From what i can work out the players we are interested in are:


I have never seen any of those players play but i guess any addition at goalkeeper and left back is welcome. Zielinski and silva seem slightly unneccasary unles we get rid of a lot of players. Hector is apparently more defensive minded which is exactly what we need. I was still hoping for perhaps a holding mid to push Can and Henderson more but maybe Grujic is that player. However i fail to see the point of chilwell as he is just another joe gomez surely? And personally i like joe gomez so i'd much rather see him or smith given a chance.

The outs that everybody can virtually agree on are:

And all the academy players who will be moving on.

If all that happens i'd consider it a very successful summer and cannot wait for next season with a squad of klopps own players.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 20 May 2016 18:09:47
Lallana will stay, Klopp said as much the other day. I can't see Milner moving on either on his wages and the sort of club he'd want to go to.

2.) 20 May 2016 18:54:38
Joe Gomez is a cb not a lb Rodgers just stuck him there like he did Flanagan. I really like Gomez he's got a lot of promise, good with the ball at his feet, is comfortable with a challenge and not bad in the air. just hope he comes back from injury well.

3.) 20 May 2016 18:54:50
Milner's leading our assists table. I'd keep him on the condition that he's usually played on the right of midfield rather than in the middle.

4.) 20 May 2016 19:07:00
AW, Migs not be moving, neither will Milner. Lallana, I think, may make way for Goetze, but not necessarily. I think illori will move on too.

5.) 20 May 2016 19:53:12
Aren't we also interested/ linked with another midfielder? Dhroud is it?

6.) 20 May 2016 19:58:53
Perhaps Goetze will replace Coutinho? Barcelona have been looking recently and something was said earlier in the year, about him wanting to move on if there is no champions league football at Liverpool.

It wouldn't surprise me if a decent offer came in for him at least. We're not in a position where we can reject the advances of clubs like Barcelona, we haven't got the finances and we don't have any European competition next season.

One thing is for sure, Coutinho will not sell cheap, so if he does leave we'll at least get a tidy sum for him.

7.) 20 May 2016 20:44:40
I don't think Goetze and Coutinho are related at all. I would aso be not so sure either of Hector or Silva are coming in. While Liverpool has scouted both players, we have not made any effort to move for them, and are concentrating on bringing in Zielinski, Chilwell, Karius and seemingly Goetze.

8.) 20 May 2016 21:36:46
Mignolet has a 5yr contract.
He will not be leaving unless some fool offers us more than his contract is worth.

9.) 20 May 2016 22:09:24
im sure whoever klopp buys will be the right player for the team, he knows what he needs to do after this season so i will put my faith in him to get it right instead of trying to second guess him, if he brings these players in then he needs them yes we have other players in the team already but he might not see a future for them because unlike us he sees them every day and knows there weaknesess, like lallana for instance he is a good player but there's hardley any end product from him and i don't think he is at the right standard for us maybe Zielinski will have a better end product because these 2 are very a like, also the players he is buying he is getting them cheap not like BR who over spent on players, its so refreshing that he is getting players this cheap for a change,

10.) 20 May 2016 23:47:07
Great insight despite having never seen any of them play.

11.) 21 May 2016 01:11:06
I don't agree Lallana and Milner should go. 2 of our most consistent performers under Klopp. Allen could do a job as a squad player. Moreno - has still (some) time to learn how to defend. Not sure he will though!

12.) 21 May 2016 07:00:34
AndyM, lalana should go if Gotze replace him. Milner can go if we get Zielinski.

13.) 21 May 2016 14:52:38
Andym that mean no one significant leaving and based on that no one coming in. Simple tranfer window.

14.) 22 May 2016 00:45:17
Skrtel, Benteke and Allen, if he moves, all significant 'Outs'. I don't see CM as a priority for strengthening. Matip and Grujic both significant 'Ins' already done. A GK and Lb needed (Lb whether Moreno stays or goes) . I hope for a lot from Ings next season.



21 Mar 2016 20:45:32
Everything points to skrtel being sold. Ilori and wisdom likely to follow in all honesty. He won't even play ilori ahead of lucas at centre back.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 21 Mar 2016 20:59:00
Managing with a iron fist. What the squad needs. Given a chance. Not good enough you're gone.



24 Feb 2016 23:14:17
Ed002, do you have any info on these supposed claims that sturridge may want to leave?

Various people seem to think there's something in it and i believe you have said in the past he could leave, unless i am mistaken.

Anonymous Woolback

{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure he doesn't want to leave. He will want to prove himself to be fit and be a regular starter.}

1.) 25 Feb 2016 08:09:37
I genuinely thought mountains were being made out of molehills by this entire situation. People were looking for updates when there was no update to give. I'm fairly certain Klopp came out at one stage during it and said studge needs a 'pre season' of sorts before he could play which made sense in my mind because it was breaking the perpetual cycle of injury > recover > thrown back in straight away > inevitable break down
Only time will tell if the cycle has been broken so fingers crossed.

{Ed002's Note - Sturridge was, quite correctly, eased back in. If he picks up an injury now because too much is being asked too soon then the finger will point directly at the coaching staff.}

2.) 25 Feb 2016 08:18:21
I agree it's a difficult balancing act for Klopp and co. Play him too much and he will most certainly break down again, don't play him enough and you'll have certain sections of the media/ supporters blasting management for not playing our best player and will come out with ridiculous rumours and theories. Common sense rarely prevails!

3.) 25 Feb 2016 11:50:19
Eds and Reds would I be right in saying that the majority of his injuries have come in training rather than a competitive match? Not sure where I'm going with this, but perhaps he needs the Ledley King treatment?

4.) 25 Feb 2016 12:16:24
I'll take the Ed's word on this, paper talk is generally made sensationalism. With any luck he can put this all behind him, Studge is a top class finisher and a tremendous player, so I am glad to see him back.



03 Nov 2015 20:07:22
According to someone i know who claimed he has an itk inside liverpool, liverpool will be looking to offload sturridge, allen, enrique and lovren in january as they have been identified as the weak links in the squad, for various reasons.

Anybody else heard anything like this?

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 03 Nov 2015 20:39:31
Not heard it but all make complete sense.

Ed002 has also been aluding to sturridge leaving for the past couple of months.

Wouldn't be worried about any of them going to be honest.

Sturridge needs Italy or Spain where he might get away with having to be so fit and therefore reduce injuries.

2.) 03 Nov 2015 20:57:19
Really don't see Sturridge going in Jan unless there is a replacement lined up.

3.) 03 Nov 2015 22:08:31
Can't see studge going as long as Ings is out injured.

4.) 03 Nov 2015 22:55:41
Can not see Sturridge going in January. From what my guy tells me, Klopp wants everything possible done to keep him fit for a sustained period of time.

5.) 04 Nov 2015 00:28:34
Don't get all this cool calmness about the possibility of studge leaving. yes I fully understand he is having a terrible rub of injuries. But for God sake the lad is still young and overcome this, and is one of the best strikers in the prem league. He really does get the love from our supporters I feel. just my opinion.

6.) 04 Nov 2015 01:26:42
We'd be lucky to get ten million for him, rather keep him for that, unless klopp sees firmino as the cover for benteke until Ings is back.

7.) 04 Nov 2015 04:10:57
LOL we have some funny fans and posters! Sturridge is quality. Yes he picks up injuries. Shall we also sell Henderson? Gomez? Yes. I understand he gets injured more frequently than others but this is not good. We shouldn't treat people this way.

A lot of people stuck with Suarez and his whole racism debacle. Then when he bit people a lot of people still wanted to keep him.

Be a ****er that's fine. get injured and we don't want you.

Nice one.

8.) 04 Nov 2015 09:37:55
Who is going to sign sturridge when he hasn't even played half a season over the last two?

9.) 04 Nov 2015 12:42:34
Do Man City say the same about Aguero?

Yes, he's more injury prone than Darren Anderton (reference for the oldies there! ), but he's class when he's available and we need all the class we've got.

10.) 04 Nov 2015 23:32:56
Seriously? Who at this point in time would splash the cash on Sturridge? Way too much of a risk for any buying club!

11.) 06 Nov 2015 07:55:56
eds I disagree with your comment that SG has not been good enough for years. He was pivotal in our title challenge in the deeper role!

{Ed001's Note - in some respects yes, but his lack of defensive awareness was a huge part of the reason we shipped so many goals and failed to win it.}




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25 Jan 2017 11:07:59
William carvalho never really impressed me at the euro's and seemed very overated, i fail to see what he would bring that we don't already have with henderson, can and wijnaldum.

On the goalkeeping issue, just throwing this one out there, should we not be adopting the same approach barcelona did with ter stegen?

Buy an experienced goalkeeper to play for a few years, but is also willing to regularly drop to the bench to allow the younger goalkeeper to play? This would surely be beneficial for both the long and short term. And given begovic wants to leave chelsea, i can't think of anybody better to fill the role for us. It just doesn't make any sense to me that our backup goalkeeper is someone we are equally as terrified to play.

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 25 Jan 2017 11:19:39
Carvallho is a beast of a player. He would bring stability into that midfield which gets exposed every now and then when someone runs at you on counter. He is a solid tackler, poaitonally aound and has a well built physique ideal for the PL. A fine passer of the ball. He is a mix of Matic and Kante and most importantly a finished article at 23.

With Ward returning from loan in summer, I can't see us buying a GK unless you are selling both Migs and Karius.

2.) 25 Jan 2017 12:11:19
Not sure what you expected from him at the euros? He won the damn thing playing in midfield so he didn't do too bad there cos you could argue every player is overrated for not winning it! It's not a great place to judge players- if we did we would have sold handerson and lallana on the back of it. carvalho is not the finished article but very good at multiple things. I actually think him and Henderson could competed for the same spot or either one could be moved out to the left / right. We've seen what a pinnacle role Henderson plays and we just can't replace him when he's out. I have no idea if this is true but WC will add to our first team. If he comes it won't be to warm the bench. I think he'd be a very good buy.

3.) 25 Jan 2017 13:10:49
He is much better than anyone we have defensively and can play from deep. He would allow Henderson to push forward alongside lallana if he was to come, which I very much doubt. He wouldn't be the ideal midfielder I would go for due to the way we play but he would certainly be a better one than what we have now. He improves the first team which is certainly what we need in the middle, it's no mystery that we need a better midfielder than wiji and can for the first team. I think the pair of them are decent players but they don't bring enough to the first team defensively or offensively and are far too inconsistent. I would say the hendo, wiji, lallana partnership works more often than not, but we will still concede bundles of goals with that open midfield. We sacrifice stability for fluidity. Can should be learning his trade better from the bench and used against certain opposition, it's clear he's not ready to start week in week out because he's missing fundamentals to his game. If he doesn't accept this and doesn't sign a new contract etc loan or sell him, he is in no position to do that. A good player but he wouldn't get into any other midfield of the top teams in the prem.

4.) 25 Jan 2017 14:07:49
There is nothing overrated about William Carvalho, Anonymous. Nothing whatsoever. The guy is a great player, end of. You don`t have big clubs all over Europe tracking you for 3 years if you are a dud or overrated. I saw him at the Euros and I disagree with your assessment. I watched him closely as I had never seen him play and the guy is as strong as an ox YET as technically gifted in the DM role as Patrick Vieira.

He is physical, can pass long or short with either foot, tackle and cover a lot of ground with deceptive speed. Whether he won the Euros or not is irrelevant cos Baggio didn`t win the World Cup YET he was one of the stars of it and one of the best players I have ever seen in my lifetime. Will we get him? I doubt it. But to say he`s overrated, is way off the mark. As for the GK issue, let`s wait and see in the summer as all the top GK`s are already taken and they won`t be moving anywhere.

5.) 25 Jan 2017 14:58:39
I agree AW. He's playing in a low quality league and when I've seen him playing in the cl/ el he's failed to impress me. Also he may be as strong as an ox but is incredibly slow and turns even slower. The issue with Lucas playing in that position is his lack of pace, so I fail to see how Carvalho would be an improvement in that position. He wouldn't suit our high pressing game either. If he comes in I'll support him, but I think he's not the right player for us.

6.) 25 Jan 2017 15:00:13
As Swish said, the euros/ international football is a terrible marker for premier league suitability. However, I thought he was very effective in the Euros. I have to be honest it wasn't to the point where I craved him for LFC, but he performed his role at that level very well.
He seems great at reading the game so maybe that will make up for a 'perceived lack of pace', however, I've never seen a player skin him for pace. I think his 'pace' hasn't been properly tested in the league he's played in.

7.) 25 Jan 2017 18:31:23
Depends which 'pace' you're referring to.
His speed will have been tested time and again from very quick players, should be easy enough to find out whether he suffers a lack of pace.
Whether he can keep up with the pace of the PL is a different matter.



05 Jan 2017 17:32:09
I know you're a fan of jose fonte ed001, assuming you'd like to see us move for him following the revelation of his transfer request?

Anonymous Woolback

{Ed001's Note - no he wants to go to United and it is 99% certain he will be going there.}

1.) 05 Jan 2017 17:55:00
In Jan, ed?

{Ed001's Note - yes. Ed002 even mentioned it in his United Sharkopod a couple of weeks ago.}

2.) 05 Jan 2017 18:16:26
Dang it! I was just about to ask the Ed if Fonte would be a good partner for Matip and if we should go for him instead of Mr. Walk-About (Virgil Van Dyke) .

3.) 05 Jan 2017 22:40:42
Personally, I would prefer Bonucci or Alderweireld (Lol) .

4.) 06 Jan 2017 01:10:00
Realtofel, that would be 65m (quote from Juve when Conte came calling last summer) for Bonucci and 45m (my guesstimate) for Alderweireld, please.



20 Dec 2016 01:06:14
Ed025, i see you call henderson a dire footballer, can i ask where you get coverage of gaelic football? I assume that's what you've been watching because we obviously aren't watching the same game.

Anonymous Woolback

{Ed025's Note - i just dont get what he actually brings to the table wooly, please enlighten me as to what actual use he is, an ash tray on a motorbike imo.. :)

1.) 20 Dec 2016 09:25:45
He brings clamness and composure in that middle. Henderson stops the attack from opposition and that is what he asked to do. He does that without being called as a Specialist player.

2.) 20 Dec 2016 09:11:14
He would be great playing rugby as he never ever gives a forward pass. I see that he has made most passes this season but most of them are to the player who has just passed to him. Highly overrated - bring in Can.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha, that's the funniest thing you have ever said.}

3.) 20 Dec 2016 10:33:20
Papetwee - he's made the most successful long passes (most of which would obviously be forward), and he's made the most successful tackles and interceptions i. e. won the ball more than any other player. In other words, you're talking nonsense fella.

4.) 20 Dec 2016 11:15:32
Before last evening's match he had made 1436 passes -379 more than Kante of Chelsea (36% more) . I still suggest that the majority of these have been interchanges that have produced no advantage. Even the long passes across the pitch tend to go behind the recipient and cause a hold-up in any attack.

{Ed001's Note - Makalele very rarely made forward passes either, I guess you don't rate him then? The advantage could be nothing more than maintaining possession or moving opponents about creating space. You must have hated the old Liverpool teams, they made more back passes than forwards, I am sure you know better than Bob Paisley about the game though. Clearly.}

5.) 20 Dec 2016 11:49:40
I guess people don't understand Henderson's role. If you are expecting him to do a Modric then that is not his job in the team. He is more like a stopper in the middle for us and he has been doing that fine.

6.) 20 Dec 2016 11:52:42
Hendersons contribution to our team is hard to explain unless you watch loads of Liverpool games, on MOTD he might just look like a workhorse but in reality he controls our midfield and without him in the team we play a hell of a lot worse.

7.) 20 Dec 2016 12:33:03
the problem with "fans" like you papa is that once you've made your mind up about a player, it won't be changed regardless. hendo also had 4 assists this season in the league, only couts (5) and lallana (6) have more. add to that he plays a much deeper role than the other two its not bad going.

on another note, we're second in the league with almost half the games played, most of the bigger teams have played us on their own turf - i struggle to see how anyone can still find reasons to bash our players.

8.) 20 Dec 2016 08:02:32
Hendo's got more of a football brain than Ed025 has a brain because let's face it, Hendo's everything but a headless chicken.

{Ed025's Note - your very easily pleased the IB hes mediocrity personified, you obviously know very little about the game..

9.) 20 Dec 2016 08:03:12
Keeps possession, controls the tempo of Liverpools game, always open for the pass, covers so much of the pitch in 90 minutes, his work rate is staggering. he basically keeps things ticking over for us. he's not steven gerrard, he will never hit double figures but he's a massively important player for us.
Barkley is a yard dog.

{Ed025's Note - he does run about a lot abo, then he runs about some more, then some more..that makes him a runner not a footballer mate..

10.) 20 Dec 2016 08:22:49
Ed025's this is what I love about this site everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Happy Christmas.

{Ed025's Note - and the same to you mate..

11.) 20 Dec 2016 08:43:55
When we signed Henderson a said he would go on to be integrals and captain- and was asked if I was sane!

Sounds daft, but what he brings cannot be underestimated.


He makes others play - take him out of our side and we are lethargic in possession, we don't press and we look far less of a side.

As a coach, I would love a Hendo in our side.

{Ed025's Note - makes others play?..hmmmm. how about him playing a bit and making a valid contribution instead of running around like a spare part and looking busy?

12.) 20 Dec 2016 09:25:55
Ed, Henderson brings industry, stamina, work rate, energy, a superb passing range, strong positional sense, good technique (as evidenced by his ability to hit long range screamers and make the long range passes) . As aforementioned has a great shot on him from distance, can put a great ball in when given the opportunity to cross (doesn't get much opportunity in the No.6 role), isn't afraid to put his foot in, is a team player, has a degree of physical strength, which combined with his 6"2 frame, means he doesn't get barged off the ball, he isn't a powerhouse type midfielder a la Yaya Toure but he's strong enough. He is also very composed and a great leader. He however strangely seems to lose all his composure when in front of goal, while he isn't afraid to put his foot in, he isn't the most tenacious or aggressive of players, he can also play within himself at times and not take the risk on, despite having the ability to test the keeper from distance or execute a 50 yard pass perfectly.

{Ed025's Note - you make him sound like the perfect footballer lil, talk about making a silk purse out of a sow,s ear, you make him sound like messi...messy would be a fairer description mate.. :)

13.) 20 Dec 2016 10:26:01
I find it interesting how managers above our pay grade and knowledge, both at club level and international level pick Henderson as a captain of their team, yet fans and ed025 still knock him. We are all entitled to our opinions of course but jaysus give the man a break. he is our captain!

{Ed025's Note - he does offer something obviously still trying to work out what exactly mate.. :)

14.) 20 Dec 2016 15:55:17
My two cents on the Henderson debate is when you have a midfield three, each of them have to be able to bring something different to the midfield, whilst doing the basics of a midfielders job the same way. Hence why we saw gerrard, alonso and mascherano as the best liverpool midfield we have seen in years. Each one of those players brought something different to the team and each role was vital to allow the other player to do his job. Whilst we have nothing near the same balance, you can't logically think that Henderson, who is pretty much the only midfielder in our starting 11 that offers any genuine defensive cover and tactical intellegence to do what wijnaldum and lallana try to do, which is to bring the ball out from midfield into attack. That's essentially asking all three of midfield players to join the attack at every opportunity, we would be the team being out scored. Every time Henderson has either been out with suspension or long term injury we have suffered. His role is overlooked in the same way Lucas was back when he was vital for us. Whilst I agree he can look for the forward pass more often, and maybe score or create more goals, it's simply not his bloody job to do that. If you swap Can for Henderson we are F'ed. Fifa players do not understand the logistics of real football, not everyone is gerrard. If Henderson is out somehow (god forbid) we would miss him more than we have matip, coutinho or lallana, but that would fly right over some people's heads.

{Ed025's Note - you make some valid points there Kman, my beef is when fans say he is brilliant when hes obviously not, i will have the "does the dirty things" bit and the covers a lot of ground malarkey but lets not think of him as the second coming thats all mate..

15.) 20 Dec 2016 16:39:17
Henderson is the heart of our team, he's almost got the whole package for me. He's outstanding, I cringed lastnight when that divvy did the tackle on him, luckily he was alright, I feared the worst.

16.) 20 Dec 2016 20:40:22
I understand what you're saying ED, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I respect yours as I understand some of the criticism levelled towards certain players. I was actually directing my post at papetwee who seems to have no idea about hendersons contribution to our system and thinks Can is a better fit without giving any indication as to how he would be a better fit. Cheers though ed, have a good one mate!

{Ed025's Note - in the end Kman it is just about opinions, there is no right or wrong and for me its healthy mate..

17.) 21 Dec 2016 11:13:04
The role klopp has asked him to play means he is not being the dynamic midfielder ed25 obviously favours, unlike the world class players in the everton midfield ehem. If we bought a proper defensive midfielder i imagine hendo would play on the left or right of the midfield three much like lalana and be more of a creative force like he used to. As it stands he is required to be more diciplined defensively and be the water carrier so to speak.

Either way he is effective in the roles he is asked to play in the team and that is all you can ask of the man. Are there better players than hendo in his current role, yes undoubtedly. Is hendo like an ashtray on a motorcycle as ed25 so eloquently put it, well we know that is disingenuous so don't rise to the bait people.



30 Nov 2016 15:55:14
Had the pleasure of going to the game last night, although we didn't play well, always a privilege to see our team.

That said, despite the win, we were not great for a large portion of the game. I personally put this down to us having only 2 forwards on the pitch, and can and wijnaldum having to run into the attacking area on the left, where coutinho and firmino might usually be. Too many central midfielders resulted in the play being all passing and no bite. This was vindicated by how much our tempo improved as soon as woodburn came onto the pitch for ejaria.

While the front line was simply a matter of team selection, defence was where we looked especially dodgy.

And my point for this post is that i do feel slightly worried should we pick up any long term injuries back there. People say mignolet is a good backup, but he was awful last night. He hasn't improved. I'd much rather see an average, everyman goalkeeper there, than someone who looks capable of conceding a goal with every interaction of the ball.

Moreno, was equally bad, again. Where people think he has improved recently, sorry, i just don't see it. He still has the worst drcision making of any footballer I've ever seen, and continually was caught out by leeds attack targeting his area. Any tackles he made were very last ditch and made me wince. Going forward, he is still just as ineffective and poor at decision making as before.

The other culprit is klavan, who seems to get worse every time i see him. Hopefully he just needs time to settle in and get a run of games but, i see too many shades of him being skrtel mark 2 at the moment. His positionig and movement defensively, yesterday, was particularly bad.

Other than that, i thought man of the match was for alexander arnold, thought he had a virtually flawless game at right back, really did look mature. Woodburn changed the game when he came on, and origi put in a great shift in a misfiring attack. Can was also monstrous in midfield, was really impressed with his dominant, physical play and runs forward, he really gave it a good go.

Hopefully firmino, lallana and studge are back for the weekend, and we can keep the good form going!

Anonymous Woolback

1.) 30 Nov 2016 17:03:48
We had some luck yesterday on the process and we weren't great as some people are claiming in the page from morning.
I hope before I am taken to graveyard this page will understand what a CM should be to a team. If I die before Ed01, make sure you put up an article of different types of CM's.

The passing of sideways is an indication of lack of vision in your midfield to spot a run ahead or movement ahead.

{Ed001's Note - or it could be an indication of there not being a better option ahead of the player. Or it could be an instruction from the manager. Or it could be that the team have a lead and the player looks to play safe by keeping possession. Or it might be an attempt to draw out players to create space. There are many reasons for a sideways pass.}

2.) 30 Nov 2016 17:09:32
There could be more Ed01. But I don't think that's the case with us. We had 75% of possession in the first half. Leeds were sitting like a duck in their own 6 yard box.

{Ed001's Note - exactly. So they had compressed the space by sitting deep, one of the things the great Liverpool sides did in that situation was pass the ball sideways constantly. You need to go back and watch old footage, we played as many back passes to the keeper as we did forward passes. It was all about drawing out the opposition. You play it sideways to tempt someone to leave their position to make a challenge when they are sitting deep. If someone does get tempted out, then there is a gap to exploit.}

3.) 30 Nov 2016 17:15:00
Wooly, I agree with your post overall but you have to contextualize the game for what it was. Leeds are 5th in the table and a very good team, as we saw last night.

We had 8 changes to the team from the one vs Sunderland as well. This will definitely lead to a drop off in cohesion, team chemistry and overall, and team performance overall. With these in mind, I can understand why we were not as fluid.

One thing to also remember and this is critical, is that, we are not at our best right now and we are literally walking wounded with knock, and niggling injuries all around the squad with origin literally limping through the last 15 mins of the game yet came up with a goal and more than involved in the second.

This shows the mental strength and steel klopp has given this team to battle hard even if all is not going your way and we did that. I just hope we will have Lallana back next week, Mane well rested and back in form vs Bournmouth, Firmino and Studge back this week as well as hope Origi can shake off his knock because they kicked that boy from pillar to post last night.

4.) 30 Nov 2016 17:45:57
Why do people keep saying that Woodburn changed the game? He did well, and scored a good goal, but he did very little apart from that, and on a couple of occasions he went backwards when there was something on. I'm not slating him, because the boy is 17, but can we stop saying that he should challenge for Coutinho's spot as well, it stinks of overreaction, and putting way too much pressure on him.

5.) 30 Nov 2016 18:18:50
Harry, "The passing of sideways is an indication of lack of vision in your midfield to spot a run ahead or movement ahead. ". Clearly, you never played in midfield because if you did, you wouldn`t post a ridiculous comment like that.

6.) 30 Nov 2016 18:40:53
It wasnt reallt a criticism of the team going forward hamilton red, if anything i agree with you. The team was drastically changed and due to injuries it ended up being unbalanced and incohesive. Klopp saw what was wrong, changed it, and we won the game.

As for some of the players at the back though, their performance was not a matter of no cohesion, just being their usual selves. The point is that if we get long lay offs to karius, milner, or matip, we're basically screwed, judging by their performances last night.

7.) 30 Nov 2016 18:57:36
And they did not home out from their position whole first half and we went to the break 0-0.

Happy to know you have been playing in the midfield well.

8.) 30 Nov 2016 20:13:32
Good to know that you avoided responding the your own quote and explaining it so, I will help you explain your own quote. Whether they came out of their positions or not, is irrelevant. Your quote if taken seriously, means that any midfielder who passes sideways, lacks vision is still appallingly unintelligent. So does that mean midfielders like Xavi, Iniesta, Pep and the other maestros of Barcelona who practiced Tiki-Taka (the ultimate sideways passing system) lack vision as well? So did Zidane lack vision as well whenever he passed sideways (which was a lot) vs teams who parked the bus? Ed already explained this to you but you still go on down this rabbit hole for reasons best known to you. You keep passing the ball around as a team to keep possession, move the opposition block around so as to find the right openings/ pockets of space to score. More talented teams play this way all the time but when it`s LFC to you, the midfielders lack vision. Always trashing our players when you whenever it`s covenient for you. Utter nonsense. I stand by my statement. You`ve never played the game nor in midfield because if you did like I did, you would not have made that quote.

9.) 30 Nov 2016 20:17:33
Wooly, your point is taken but I just believe that the situation and the circumstances we were in must be taken into context before drawing such a conclusion. We do agree that we cannot be our best all the time so you have to consider and respect that fact. Let`s just enjoy the win, give the boys credit for fighting hard through some adversity and then hope the injury situation clears up instead worrying about things that have not happened or may not happen.

10.) 30 Nov 2016 21:28:36

Mate I am pretty sure you know better than me. But Xavi was arguably the best Controller in the modern era.
Relentless passing of only sideways is not a great sign of a top CM according to me at least.
Luka Modric is currently the best player in that position.
Passing sideways also means leaving the responsibilities to someone else and staying safe from the action.

Everyone pass to sideways.

11.) 01 Dec 2016 17:18:15
Harry, stop being an imbecile and just accept that your original criticism of sideways passing was just wrong! I can't be bothered to explain again why its wrong as you seem to not understand Ed001, Hamilton or the countless others who have pointed it out.

Its like banging one's head against a brick wall sometimes with you! Scratch that, most of the time!



15 Nov 2016 21:15:37
If lallanas injury is anything serious i propose an independence referendum for the merseyside area.

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