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06 Jun 2017 10:32:08
Eds has City's Mendy bid been rejected? Do you expect they will still make a deal? Is there any crumb of hope that he could end up at Liverpool instead? Thanks.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed001's Note - City have not met the asking price. They might well return but Pep has other options to go for.}


1.) 06 Jun 2017 10:42:02
Looks like City will go after Bertrand. Ed002 has also mentioned Bernat and both options would be much cheaper for City compared to Mendy.
Mendy though will have to force the move imo. Monaco may not budge on the asking price and after the money being set aside for VVD, I cannot see Klopp spending another 40 million on a defender.


2.) 06 Jun 2017 10:42:22
It must be a high asking price if city are thinking of looking elsewhere. I assume it's very much an outside chance that we will get him?


3.) 06 Jun 2017 10:57:12
Mendy looks like a quality player, again I'm sat in the 'he's not 4x the player of Robertson' camp, But what I don't understand is this, the two positions we absolutely need to sort out are LB (with no offence to Milner at all) and LW. If we do get Salah and VVD neither have been sorted unless Salah will play out of position, and a massive amount of money has been spent.

My question to Ed's if available is if we do get VVD, will this affect our other targets due to the amount of £££ being spent on him?

Thanks in advance for all the hard work.


4.) 06 Jun 2017 11:37:29
Why do people keep saying Salah will play out of position? its infuriating research the bloody players yes Salah had a great season on the RW for Roma but he has played LW constantly for Basel and for Fiorentina, Our frontline do not stick to there positions you think all of Mane goals have come down the RW him hugging that line? no he has come inside and gone down the middle while Bobby went out wide Salah would be perfect for the club on the left or if Klopp wanted he could move Mane out to the Left since he played there for Southampton and Red Bull.


5.) 06 Jun 2017 15:12:00
Spot on, Kloppers. People are too fixated on where the players play in a front three knowing fully well that our front three interchange at will which is what the opposition defences cannot deal with. Salah can play on either side so don't get where him being "out of position" comes from.


 

 

06 Jun 2017 09:24:27
G'day Eds.
Any idea if Cédric Soares is among the right backs that Liverpool have interest in?
Thanks a bunch as always.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed001's Note - I don't expect him to move this summer, so it is irrelevant that we have interest in him.}


1.) 06 Jun 2017 10:45:46
Okay, thanks Ed001.


2.) 06 Jun 2017 10:55:53
Is a decent player though.


 

 

05 Jun 2017 13:34:49
Any idea if reports of Liverpool's interest in Santiago Arias are true please, Eds? Possible alternative to Pereira?
Thanks a million.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed002's Note - Santiago Arias has attracted interest from Swansea and West Ham after the previous interest of Chelsea and Manchester United waned. I am n ot aware of any approach by Liverpool.}


 

 

01 Jun 2017 13:10:58
Can't find any post from Eds confirming or dismissing Salah rumors. Let us know when you can please Eds, we need you!
I've been crossing my fingers for the Brandt deal, but if it is Salah, I'll get behind it all the way. In Klopp we trust!

Jurgen Meister

{Ed002's Note - Thye interest in Salah is seemingly there because Brandt wants assurances. It is an odd choice given he is primarily a right winger and Liverpool need a left winger. I have no confirmation of any of this.}


1.) 01 Jun 2017 14:46:56
It does seem a little odd ed but perhaps the club are confident he or Mane could play from the other side. In fact I think Mane has done previously and his best form before moving to Liverpool was actually centrally.


2.) 01 Jun 2017 14:50:18
Is it not also a little insecure from Brandt wanting assurances? If he is the clubs primary target he should be aware we aren't after a substitute, if he wants to play he'll have to perform and train well or like anyone in the squad he'll be out. I don't know about you but I think players wanting assurances (some contractually) doesn't sit well with me. Back yourself, work hard and use your brain. If you are number 1 target you'll be thought of as important to the team.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely mate..


3.) 01 Jun 2017 15:02:21
Well said Brandt needs to believe in himself as he's a good player.

Brandt would be my preferred option but im happy with Salah if that's who the club choose.


4.) 01 Jun 2017 14:58:33
Isn't Salah left footed? Mane right footed?

Can't say I am over excited if Salah had to join due to him failing at Chelsea but both are able to play on either side.


5.) 01 Jun 2017 15:00:25
He is left footed though, if that makes any difference.


6.) 01 Jun 2017 15:09:59
Cool, thanks for the answer Ed002. I won't give up hope of Brandt copping on and signing on the dotted line, then. A huge club in the CL and he will start games, of course he will. But there are 5 or 6 other very good forward players in the squad, you have to earn your place mate.


7.) 01 Jun 2017 15:13:08
i thought he couldn't settle in the UK previously? im not so sure he is even interested in coming back after all that, but who knows i guess, navas once refused to leave spain as he'd be homesick.

{Ed002's Note - For a coiuple of reasons he was unable to settle at Chelsea.}


8.) 01 Jun 2017 15:27:26
For me brandt should go join a step up from leverkusen but somewhere he knows he will play

No player in thr history of the game joins one of the big guns and doesn't have uber competion for him place.

Assurances can't exist. Every player will ave ups and downs in a season and when its time to be droppes ots your time, very few never have those peaks.

If its someones time and theu habe certain obligstions in their contract then what's the manager meant to do.

There is not one guarenteed starter in are team. Every single one cane be dropped.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..


9.) 01 Jun 2017 15:33:14
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited by the prospect of Mane and Salah on the wings. Just because it didn't work out at Chelsea under Mourinho means nothing, look at DeBruyne? Just pay the fee and get him in if he wants to come.


10.) 01 Jun 2017 16:15:20
StraightTalk, I was arguing the exact same thing as you a few days ago yet for some reason, everyone massively downvoted me for it, while everyone agrees with you today!

If a big club is after you the way Liverpool are, and you're interested, then don't p*ss about with this 'assurances' crap. Accept it for what it is and either take the risk or leave it. I know he's looking after himself, but he can't wrap himself in cotton wool either.


11.) 01 Jun 2017 16:15:42
Also, Mane has been very capable on the left flank in the past.


12.) 01 Jun 2017 16:50:10
Ed002, I know your traveling mate, are you able to ask and find out from anyone if there is fact in these rumours? Im just not sure as it seems its come from out of the blue. Nothing on Sharkopod either. Unlesd its come about because of Brandt wanting assurances as explained.


13.) 01 Jun 2017 17:58:55
That's why I don't understand why people give out saying Klopp has assured Karius he would be no1 when, regardless of what assurances are made if the player is not training or playing as good as was first thought assurances are irrelevant.

I think rather than people suggesting klopp was wrong for saying it, should be saying good job on taking it on the chin and making a call that needed to be made. Karius could push on but with no motivation he won't at lfc anyway. Further to this I'm sure klopp assured him he could be no1 but would have a fight on his hands. Doubt he told him he was cast iron.

If Brandt needs assurances he's missing a big attribute confidence.


14.) 01 Jun 2017 18:10:38
going backwards with salah . back to brendas days playing people in wrong positions trying to fit square pegs in eound holes while our competition sifns better players and moves further away from us . use the youth players don't buy stupidly.


 

 

01 Jun 2017 13:58:06
Would Gaya be on that list of left-backs by any chance, Ed001?

Jurgen Meister

{Ed001's Note - yes.}


1.) 01 Jun 2017 14:15:34
Cool. Thanks Ed. Gaya and Tierney would be my choices then.


2.) 01 Jun 2017 15:21:19
Wouldn't Gaya be as expensive as Mendy? Cannot see the club spending that sort of money on a fullback (even though I think we should) . Fear its going to be Robertson, but I would rather just persist with Milner if the likely incomings are no better than what we already have at LB.


3.) 01 Jun 2017 15:04:05
Gaya would be a good choice!

Ed001 who would your choice be?

{Ed001's Note - probably Gaya as well, though I have not seen all the left backs around.}


4.) 01 Jun 2017 15:28:49
Yeah and Tierney wouldn't be cheap either. But this is the summer we have to spend big and LB is the position we should do it for. I know am dreaming that we might actually get Gaya and Tierney, but it's too upsetting to imagine us going into 17/ 18 with Hull City's left-backs. :/.


5.) 01 Jun 2017 16:01:15
I'd go for Bertrand Ed001. Premier league proven and would cost less. Very consistent and solid player imo.
Any Spanish full back worries me (after what happened with Moreno) . They just cannot defend (Azpilicueta aside) . Gaya would be a big risk in that respect.


 

 

 

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22 Jun 2017 09:01:14
I just happened to be reading about our 2 fine young goalkeepers this morning and noticed it is Danny Ward's birthday today. Happy Birthday Danny! I then noticed that it is Loris Karius' birthday today also. Happy Birthday Loris! Were they really both born on the same day? That's just bonkers. I wonder which came out first and why that day was so good for producing future Liverpool goalies. Two fine young keepers exactly the same age, plus Migs. I really think we're looking very fine in that department. Grabara, Caoimhin Kelleher and Shamal George are all promising. I guess just Shay Given to replace Mannignger might make sense. Even though he wasn't born on June 22nd.

Jurgen Meister

1.) 22 Jun 2017 09:07:40
I know it's hard to believe but yes, some people are born on the same day.


2.) 22 Jun 2017 09:10:54
And its migs mums bday today aswel lol.


3.) 22 Jun 2017 09:15:45
Is that a sarcastic response RedMan? Sure some people are born on the same day around the world, but when do you ever meet them? Let alone play as a goalkeeper for the same professional football club.

{Ed001's Note - if you meet more than a couple of hundred people in your life, which most people do in the first couple of years of their life, let alone by the time they hit their 20s, then it is almost certain that at least some will share a birthday with you. If there are more than 365 people working at the same workplace as you, there is every chance of someone else sharing your bday.}


4.) 22 Jun 2017 09:48:53
It's my sons birthday! Is that an omen for the future? He has the goalkeeper kit for his birthday too! 😀.


5.) 22 Jun 2017 09:50:21
Not just the same birthday from any year in the last ninety, but the exact same day in 1993 when four big hands came into the world simultaneously and the world became a safer place. :)


6.) 22 Jun 2017 09:54:48
I share my birthday with Liverpool legend, Nigel Clough.


7.) 22 Jun 2017 10:00:12
There's some crazy stat which I can't get my head round, where if you are in a room with I think 23 people, the chances are over 50% that someone will share a birthday with someone else in the room!


8.) 22 Jun 2017 10:28:51
My parents share the same birthday and my Grandad shared it with them also. I was supposed to be born on that day as well but being the little bugger that I am was 2 weeks late!


9.) 22 Jun 2017 10:31:44
It was sarcasm Jurgen Meister, just banter though of course mate.


10.) 22 Jun 2017 10:47:34
I was born in one county and moved county when I was about 11. When I moved to my new school 2 other lads in my class were born on the same day as me with the same first name.


11.) 22 Jun 2017 10:52:12
100% correct fencey. If there are 22 other people in the same room as you, it is more than likely that one will have the same birthday as you. It is to do with reducing probability. A bit of a head mess, but is correct.


12.) 22 Jun 2017 11:03:02
I share my birthday with Bruce Grobbelaar. Hows THAT for a crazy coincidence. Just nuts.


13.) 22 Jun 2017 11:32:51
Nick, I don't think it's the same birthday as you, just same birthday as someone else!


14.) 22 Jun 2017 11:49:52
Too much time on your hands lads

I know its close season at the moment but birthdays. Really?


15.) 22 Jun 2017 11:53:34
I found out that I had the same birthday as my friend during a classroom exercise and we were both like woah, duuuuuude then we started jumping and everything.

{Ed025's Note - love it welsh..


16.) 22 Jun 2017 12:51:48
Haha, I make no apologies, I now love this thread.
But yeah, close season sucks, thank dog for the Confed Cup!
And I do have a friend who was born the day before me. But he hates me because I look ten years younger than him.


17.) 22 Jun 2017 16:53:12
Guys, I share my birthday with me mam. so what? You ask. Well, it's on April 1St. yep, 2 fools. Talking about fools. Has moreno gone yet?


18.) 22 Jun 2017 19:41:39
Again correct Fencey, my bad. Wasn't thinking when I wrote that.


 

 

06 Jun 2017 17:20:07
I apologize if this question seems to actually be about Southampton, but I see it as very relevant to the current VVD transfer and I am VERY curious if any Eds have an opinion or insight into this.
Anyway, season after season the Saints have to deal with players wanting to leave. Lovren, Fonte, Van Dijk and others. Surely that is just normal for a cub of their size and yet they keep getting the hump about it and complaining about other clbs dealings. I just read Fonte's intervie with Souness and it seems they didn't really do right by him and Lovren maintains his innocence and I know Alderweireld was only on loan there, but they had some issue with that as well. So Eds, have yous got any clue if it's sour grapes or just a tactic to get maximum value for them or if indeed Southampton are the injured party in some or all of these dealings? I would love to know what you think about this issue and transfer etiquette in general.
Thanks very much in advance.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed001's Note - it is a mix of things, none of it is simple. Each case is a separate one in its own rights, with two different viewpoints, neither truly correct. Fonte was a bit of an arse, but they had promised he could leave for the right move, which he feels was offered. None of the dealings are really the same, though, in essence, the big clubs bully the smaller clubs and the smaller clubs then bully the even smaller clubs in turn, so it is difficult to have sympathy with anyone. They are all as bad as each other and a bit of integrity is very badly missed in football.}


1.) 06 Jun 2017 17:44:56
Spot on, Ed. The clubs just accuse others of doing the same things they would do if the roles were reversed, in essence so no one goes home like a saint in these cases.


2.) 06 Jun 2017 18:05:46
nice pun.


3.) 06 Jun 2017 18:33:20
Let's all remember this when Barcelona start messing with us about Coutinho.


4.) 06 Jun 2017 18:23:04
That's great Ed001. Thanks for taking the time to give a real response. It seems to me that with player-power these days stuff like this is becoming 'part' of football. I never like to see a player agitating for a move, but surely common sense would suggest that it's only natural since, like-it-or-not, a certain hierarchy does exist and they will always want to climb the ladder (while getting paid squillions of course) . So, a club like Southampton for example should expect and account for it. I must add that I really admire the way the Saints have managed to manage things since their return to the Prem by consistently making good money on sales and replacing them (usually) with successful players, not to mention their academy. Although, my advice would be to keep Claude Puel. Sacking him would be a mistake imo.
Thanks again Ed001, and I just hope this current 'saga' doesn't get ugly.

{Ed001's Note - they do account for it, but they just want to get what they consider fair value for their players.}


5.) 06 Jun 2017 19:35:20
Well that is fair enough. So the whole thing is just a bit of a song and dance really. I imagine there must be a whole load of unofficial stuff going on behind the scenes that we never hear about that. Oh to be a fly on the wall in a boardroom at times like these.


 

 

31 May 2017 08:49:05
Eds I used the search function and didn't see anywhere that you actually dismissed the Salah rumours as a 'red' herring. We're not really interested in him are we? Surely his poor work ethic would be be antithesis of what Klopp looks for?
Thanks v much.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed002's Note - You will have to point me where I said anything about fih.}


 

 

30 May 2017 15:13:13
G'day Eds,
So, with Sessegnon seemingly joining Spurs I'm guessing we'll move for Tymon. Can I ask if any of you know anything about him? I see he played in a back 3 for England U18s recently. Less of an attacker than Sessegnon? Solid defender? Highly rated? Any tid-bits would be much appreciated.
Thanks a mil.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed001's Note - I know nothing about him sorry. Never seen the lad play.}


1.) 30 May 2017 17:30:15
Very quick.


2.) 30 May 2017 17:45:11
Is this Tymon of AEK Athens?

{Ed001's Note - Hull City.}


 

 

23 May 2017 14:21:41
Which of those midfielders that you mentioned would you prefer, Ed01?
Personally, I think I'd lean towards Carvalho. Because, while Keita (Height: 172cm
Weight: 64kg) and Paredes (Height: 180cm Weight: 75kg) look very good players, Carvalho (Height: 187cm
Weight: 83kg) is just a beast. And I think that physical presence is exactly what we need in midfield. Emre brings it to an extent but it would be great to have The Emperor's imposing presence backing up our skillful swifts as they flit around between the forward lines.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed001's Note - I would rather get a good player than a big physical player. I really have no interest in height and weight, quality is what matters. I have not really seen Paredes play, not a lot of Keita and Carvalho has been very hit and miss when I see him so I don't know which I prefer.}


1.) 23 May 2017 15:09:11
If so, maybe Akinfenwa is a much better choice then.


2.) 23 May 2017 15:14:20
How big are mane and coutinho?


3.) 23 May 2017 15:02:58
Ed1, do you expect us to get one of those 3 above or are we likely to end up looking further down our list of targets? (Sorry I know it's a bit of a guesswork question)

{Ed001's Note - we never seem to get those high up the list, but then we have no longer got Ian Ayre doing the negotiating so who knows!}


4.) 23 May 2017 15:14:55
yeah i just saw you mention Carvalho can be slow and cumbersome at times. Another worry I'd have is the standard of the Portuguese League where he plays week in week out. Of course we need someone whose feet and brain are quick enough, too. I'm mostly just thinking out loud, since I find this particular position to be the most interesting to be filled. I'm already quite content with the other names mentioned to be our 1st choice fullbacks and forwards. Thanks very much for your thoughts, Ed. Have a great summer! (PS: I love the idea of post-season friendlies, bring on Sydney FC! )

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}


5.) 23 May 2017 15:19:38
Keita everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Quality player every time I have seen him play!


6.) 23 May 2017 15:30:30
Thanks Ed1 for your reply. Here's hoping Klopp gets his number 1 choices.

{Ed001's Note - you are very welcome mate.}


7.) 23 May 2017 15:38:09
Kante is not big, neither was makalele the inventor of the position.


8.) 23 May 2017 16:01:31
whoever we get has to be better than the players we have already got we need quality to move forward, as long as the recruitment is better than it was the last time we made the cl, I will be happy.


9.) 23 May 2017 16:15:52
Claude Makalele did not invent the position. Franz Beckenbauer did in the 70's as the first "sweeper" who sat in front of the back four and tried to sweep away all possible danger.


10.) 23 May 2017 16:39:58
Someone has too much time on there hands lol.


11.) 23 May 2017 21:20:12
I'm with Ed on this one. Alonso was not a physical beast yet could play the DM or DLP role (the way Klopp uses Hendo as more of a launch pad than DM) seamlessly even at 40. That is the type of "two-way" player we need and Hendo and Can are almost there.

If we can't get anyone better to play the #6 role the Klopp wants then keep and improve those already here who know what Klopp wants in that role.


12.) 23 May 2017 21:43:19
Not seen much of Keita beyond highlights but he looks to be a very agile and technically gifted player. Kind of like Lallana but less headless and more end product.

Paredes is a top class player though. In the midfield he is very similar to Can. Robust, great passing range, loves a shot etc. However he is also a bit of a set piece specialist which puts him above Keita in my order of preference due to our lack of players who can take a corner!

Carvalho though, I simply do not rate. Yeah he is tall, fast and strong. However on the ball he is just dire. Cannot pass, erratic in the final third, constantly mistimes tackles. I really do not see him as an upgrade on Stewart or Lucas. If we are moving them on we should be looking to get in a player of more quality.

Keita is marginally better in open play than Paredes, but as I said above, Paredes brings with him a quality our squad is sorely lacking. I'd be happy with either player to be honest. Surely spells the end for Grujic though if Coutinho is to play deeper? He'd be 7th choice in the midfield behind Gini, Keita/ Paredes, Coutinho, Can, Hendo and Lallana. I can see the need for 6 midfielders with our 3 man system, but a 7th player would just never get a kick in my opinion. Be a shame to force our Grujic after 8 appearances!


13.) 23 May 2017 21:54:25
Ra1969, Beckenbauer invented the Libero or Sweeper position behind the defence, not the DM nor DLP position inform of it.


14.) 24 May 2017 00:39:40
LOL N Red. Check your facts, my friend. The person playing behind the defence is called a Goalkeeper. And the libero definitely plays in front of the back four.

{Ed007's Note - Armando Picchi played the sweeper (libero) for Helenio Herrera's Inter Milan in the 60's. The sweeper is the last line of defence and they're called a sweeper because they're there to sweep up mistakes by other defenders, they sit behind the CBs and n front of the GK, that's bssic tactics mate.}


 

 

 

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27 Jun 2017 15:25:45
They just talked on skype but nothing has been agreed officially yet. Think he's waiting for any offers from bigger foreign clubs that might come in from Italy or the like. But I Reckon Silva's dressing room would be the best place for him.

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20 Jun 2017 09:59:40
haha. yep that'll take a few days. Eds get ready for 'that' question every 5 minutes. Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?

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18 Jun 2017 06:07:19
Hahaha, bravo Ed001. I guess JS missed those games Couts played in midfield. Not only can he get about and tackle like a terrier, he is great at holding onto the ball in tight spaces and can then use it to much better effect with runners ahead of him. Too often when playing as a forward he has nobody in front of him and has wriggle past players while waiting for support or take a shot from distance. Salah or Mané in front of him is going to rip teams to shreds once they find their range.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate, his best games have come when he has people making runs in front of him, playing further back helps with that. As for his physicality, he is very willing to get stuck in and he is strong, which he has to be to hold onto the ball when he makes his runs. You don't have to be built like Yaya to be physical.}


 

 

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11 Jun 2017 09:29:12
Yeah Steph don't be basic.
He actually had an excellent season
I would prefer Van Dijk, but not for £50m more than Gibson would cost.

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10 Jun 2017 18:42:55
Ed002, you don't think it's possible Klavan will be sold and Gomez kept as 1 of 4 CBs?

Jurgen Meister

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has made no efforts to sell Klavan - who was Klopp's pick only last year.}


 

 

 

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27 Jun 2017 11:52:31
Ed Caulker cost us nothing and at least Klopp learned not to listen to certain people. Klavan's not bad backup for a fiver and it's too early to judge Karius imo.

I think the fact that last summer 32 players were sold, released or loaned out must emphasize what a huge renovation job had to be done after the Blunderbuss Brodgers years.

Jurgen Meister

{Ed002's Note - Caulker did not cost nothing. How many of the 32 players were first team players. Why is the club going nowhere after all of this money has been spent. Ah, transition.}


 

 

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23 Jun 2017 14:32:29
But seriously. Hopefully Wilson, Ojo and Woodburn will be ready to step up by then and help us not lose the plot when our 2 speedsters head to the AFCON.

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23 Jun 2017 14:29:35
Hahaha, this question again. I really really hope we sign Keita, Koulibaly and Ghoulam just to watch people freaking out and blowing their tops when they realize what will happen in January 2019.

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22 Jun 2017 12:51:48
Haha, I make no apologies, I now love this thread.
But yeah, close season sucks, thank dog for the Confed Cup!
And I do have a friend who was born the day before me. But he hates me because I look ten years younger than him.

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22 Jun 2017 09:55:25
What are you talking about? He only arrived on Merseyside today.

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