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01 Apr 2018 18:20:41
It's not a criticism as such but Karius doesn't need to come rushing out for that, does he?

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1.) 01 Apr 2018 18:28:38
not really but we won so it doesn't really matter in the end
lets not forget the save from zaha as well.


2.) 01 Apr 2018 18:48:39
He made a decision and committed 100% to it.

I can’t criticise him for that, 9 times out of 10 he would get the ball first. Good on him I say 👍.


3.) 01 Apr 2018 20:05:10
Yeah zahas real quick I'm not stressing about it.


4.) 01 Apr 2018 20:09:43
If Zaha had been more accurate then Karius could have made a great save. I thought Karius was excellent at the weekend, one of our best players.


5.) 02 Apr 2018 00:21:34
If he had come out half a second sooner, he would have had a boot in his face and Zaha would have seen red. It actually wasn’t that different to Mane/ Edinson (? ), apart from Zaha didn’t make contact.


6.) 02 Apr 2018 04:58:54
cant say i disagree with Ron there, too many times have i seen mignolet caught in two minds, if your going for it, go for it, if your not then have a plan.

he went out because he thought he'd get to it first. on another day it couldev been a good save.


7.) 02 Apr 2018 09:05:57
I agree Salah. We need to be careful always picking at our keepers. The media do enough of that for us!
It was a mistake but not a glaring one. A glaring one would be lloris coming out for a cross and completely missing it for Morata to nod into an empty net but because it’s Hugo Lloris not too much is said.
Karius is doing really well I’ve been impressed with him.


8.) 02 Apr 2018 12:15:25
Spot on, boys. Karius' mistake is NOT a mistake. He made a judgement call and went in full pelt. I'd rather that than a GK who is always caught in two minds and does neither. Apart from that, Karius had a very good game and had it not been for him, the pen would have gotten us 2 down. Let's remember that.


 

 

23 Mar 2018 20:04:08
I can understand people wanting players rested for the Everton game, but realistically, if we don't win are you all prepared for Ron to become all mopey and sad again? He was like negative reds little brother for a while ;)

JTRED91

1.) 23 Mar 2018 20:47:46
Ron is a hero.


2.) 23 Mar 2018 21:24:29
😄 it’s all about priorities isn’t it? Surely my state of mind is more important than our champions league progress 🙂.

The CL represents our only chance of a trophy this season so it makes sense for Klopp to prioritise that match 🤝.


3.) 23 Mar 2018 21:36:26
There’s no way we can rest players against Everton, unless Chelsea lose and we win our next game. There’s too much riding on it.


4.) 23 Mar 2018 22:37:57
Personally I'd rest Firmino, stick Ings in for the 90 minutes. Have Salah on for about 60 minutes. I'd also rest Robbo and stick Moreno in.


5.) 23 Mar 2018 23:38:24
Nice post, OP. Also good to know Ron knows what his priorities are, lol. He was inconsolable the last time I felt like hugging him.


6.) 24 Mar 2018 01:05:15
Let salah get 2 or 3 then pull him out. Guy needs a rest.


7.) 24 Mar 2018 03:16:21
Sorry but full strength for me then take players off when we lead.


8.) 24 Mar 2018 03:44:59
We don't have the luxary of being able to rest players. If we somehow dropped points to that lot then Chelsea would be right on our tails with good fixtures to come. Play our first choice 11 from the start, let them destroy Everton and then take off the fab 3 after 60 odd mins.


9.) 24 Mar 2018 06:05:49
City have Utd that weekend. They won’t be resting players.

Let’s hope Utd make it really tough for them and take the edge off for us. I really would be tempted to rest the King. That away goal is vital and how many times have Everton injured our players over the years? It was Mane last year.

{Ed025's Note - i like to see liverpool supporters become united lovers even if its only for selfish reasons mr plums, so what your looking for is for united to give their all against city and for everton to roll over and not tackle too hard in case one of the glass virgins in the liverpool side gets a nasty bruise?, good luck with that mate.. :)


10.) 24 Mar 2018 08:31:41
We should rest some for me. Not sure who but I'd hate to see any of our front three unavailable! We can beat them squad wise surely?


11.) 24 Mar 2018 08:37:51
Mr Plums, as much as I like Salah there is only one King at Liverpool FC.


12.) 24 Mar 2018 20:37:39
Play the ground staff against Everton still take the points.


13.) 25 Mar 2018 03:58:04
We haven't played many domestic cup games. It's not like our players have had a gruelling 60 odd game season so far. We now have a decent size squad and can put out two different teams almost.

I expect us to try and kill the game off by half time so we can bring off Firmino and salah. Wouldn't be surprised if moreno started against Everton and Hendo is rested.

Everton are the last team I would want to play before our massive quarter final. They will try to break salah leg or even worse knock one of Firmino's Teeth out.


 

 

07 Mar 2018 18:58:56
I like to think of last night as a good test run. We'll be forced to put in disciplined performances if we're to progress in Europe, and this had a fairly typical away leg feel to it.
Also, I loved watching Ings last night. Really added something different, I'd like him to sign an extra year or two if he's happy to play back up to Bobby. I really feel he can cause problems, and his attitude and application is superb.
Well done Liverpool, well done Danny 👌.

JTRED91

1.) 07 Mar 2018 21:22:14
Ings is not good enough for us.


2.) 07 Mar 2018 21:44:05
Ings is definitely good enough, just needs more than 10-15 minutes here or there. He is a good option off the bench currently and seems content in that role. He still has the ability, just needs to rebuild his confidence. Fella has had back to back long term injuries and will take time to rediscover his flair.


3.) 07 Mar 2018 22:55:34
Deserves his liverpool chance.


4.) 08 Mar 2018 08:41:46
As a fan I would love to see Ings get another season at Liverpool without injury to see if he can make something of himself in the first team. Whether he wants to do that or not is another question.
I didn't know much of him when he was at Burnley but there were a few occasions against Porto where he had some really nice touches and played confidently out wide to Lallana. Plenty of running in his tank as well. Give him a chance!

{Ed025's Note - sell him to rochdale and move on for me..


5.) 08 Mar 2018 12:27:34
I have to disagree about ings, he has spent most of his time with us injured and when he is fit he's not the level of quality we need. I know people will say he's a good back up but the answer is he's not good enough, we need someone quality to rotate with firmino, mane and salah. Same can be said for lallana.


 

 

16 Jan 2018 13:18:59
Disappointed in Mignolet, I'll be honest.

He's been first choice for years, and never really improved. The same guy who took so long over a GK last season (or season before) we thought he was going to get a red card, the same guy who took a striker out to stop him scoring with the game at 1-0 at 40 mins, Which could easily have cost us the points, could go on and on, but if you work hard, I'm willing to forgive mistakes.

What disappoints me, is that he's now on about leaving because he isn't first choice.
He's done nothing to command the number 1 shirt, and as soon as its time to hard work, as soon as its time to try and earn the shirt, he wants to run. Talking about playing at the WC is laughable, he's not playing ahead of Courtios whatever club he joins.
I'm happy for him to join another club, I'd just like to see more fight and less run from our players,
Maybe there's a point I'm missing,

JTRED91

1.) 16 Jan 2018 13:42:02
The only thing you're missing is the old saying about gift horses and where not to look.


2.) 16 Jan 2018 13:44:10
To be fair I think he knows his time is up in the summer anyway, he’s fought for the no.1 spot for ages and I think he’s just recognised it may be the end of the road.


3.) 16 Jan 2018 13:46:25
im happy if he's leaving.


 

 

31 Dec 2017 16:21:52
Probably been mentioned but did anybody notice just how little effort Lovren puts in to get across after Matips pass yesterday? Equally as criminal and I think if he'd bothered to move he would have cut it out before Vardy got there.

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{Ed025's Note - lets get it straight JT, the only villain there was matip, he could have even got back to stop vardy if he was not such a lazy sod mate..


1.) 31 Dec 2017 16:41:08
Matip played a hospital pass. End of story, Can was asleep and caught napping, but the pass shouldn’t have been made in the first place.

{Ed025's Note - exactly..


2.) 31 Dec 2017 16:46:11
Totally agree Ed25, he is bloody useless mate.


3.) 31 Dec 2017 16:49:10
Definitely not equally as criminal! However, Ed025, i wouldn't absolve the whole defence of blame.

Matip is clearly the main culprit. Gomez and Lovren were both being pressed and Can was behind a Leicester player. Matip should've responded to the situation and just lamped the ball as far forward as he could. Instead, he played a poor pass out, then failed to track the run of Vardy when the ball came back at us. Even when he did finally react, his attempted challenge was half hearted. That is 4 mistakes; poor decision, then poor execution, then a lack of concentration, capped off by a weak challenge.

However, I'm not prepared to let everyone else off the hook as easily as you are Ed. Lovren, Gomez or Karius should've screamed at him to just clear the ball, or at the very least bawled him out afterwards. Nothing though. Where was captain Milner to challenge Matip afterwards about what he was doing?

Secondly, Can and Milner both made absolutely no effort to make themselves available for a pass. They were both hiding from the ball. Can also made a weak, half hearted challenge to try and reclaim possession and by going to ground, he took himself out of the game and let Leicester get straight at our defence.

Thirdly, Robertson didn't track the run of Mahrez. In fact he looked shocked when he finally realised Mahrez was in behind him. Ball watching.

I'm not really sure Lovren could've got across that quickly but he should've at least done something. Ben Mee made an exceptional goal goal clearance the other day because as soon as he realised he couldn't get to the ball he dropped to the goal line to try and make a block. Lovren looked like a rabbit in headlights. Not his fault, but top class defenders react better than that. He had no influence and might as well have not been there.

I think that goal summed us up defensively. One individual error is all it takes for us to fall to pieces. Nobody is composed enough to make the right decisions in key moments and there is no leadership.

Nobody is as equally to blame as Matip. It's his mistake and he has to wear it. However, the ball then went past 4 different players after he gave it away. Matip put his team mates under pressure, but they buckled under it all by themselves. Karius and Gomez are least at blame i suppose, because they couldn't really do anything aside from tell Matip to hit row Z before the initial error. I hope Matip is dropped for Van Dijk ASAP, but let's not pretend the rest of our defence are perfect. A defence is a unit and there is rarely ever a goal where one player is 100% to blame.

The best piece of defending i saw in the entire game was from Firmino in the dying seconds when he completely wiped out a Leicester player to prevent them hitting us on the counter. It may have seemed small, but it turned their final attack into a pointless long ball forward which killed the game off as the ref blew the whistle before it landed. It is the same every week. Firmino is always our best defender and that is frankly embarrassing considering he's the striker. Nobody else makes the right defensive decisions consistently.

{Ed025's Note - i let the others off MK because matip sold them all down the river, they were all moving forward as they did not expect a professional footballer to play such an idiotic ball into such a dangerous area, you cant legislate for that mate..


4.) 31 Dec 2017 16:49:23
Matip was hardly busting a gut to amend for his error. Never thought i would say this but let's hope klavan is brought back in for the game tomorrow.


5.) 31 Dec 2017 16:53:07
For me Can was not half asleep.
His first move as the 2x CBS was to drop back and fill in -he then went to try and win an aimless ball played into no-mans land.
The pass was simply not on and Matip mugged Can off. And then stood and watched instead of making a recovery run. Something I picked up in the latter part of his spell at Schalke but was told it was just ‘cos he didn’t want to be there.

{Ed025's Note - i agree agger..


6.) 31 Dec 2017 17:23:45
Matip had a brain fart. Stop trying to deflect away from the real culprit because he is your favorite. Matip is the worst out of our CBs when it comes to defending. At least Lovren and Klavan try, Matip does not break a sweat.


7.) 31 Dec 2017 17:28:09
Eds - am I correct in thinking that Matip was highly rated in Germany and that getting him on a 'free' was seen as a bit of a coup at the time? If that's correct does it feel a bit like he's gone backwards - in playing terms - since joining LFC?

I never saw him play previously so don't know if this laziness was always there.

{Ed001's Note - nope not correct at all. It was not seen as a coup.}


8.) 31 Dec 2017 17:50:16
Am I the only one who thinks Matip is the CB that should be booted out once we sign another CB to partner VVD? Klavan is a good 4th choice who gets on with his job without complaints and LOvren at least tries. Matip is just lazy and weak without any defensive nous.
He looked good initially in his first few games but has gone backwards since.


9.) 31 Dec 2017 18:13:30
Lovren at his best would be a good partner for vvd. Both offer different things. Just a shame we know we can't rely on him to be at his best.


10.) 31 Dec 2017 18:29:52
Matip is inexcusably slothful on a football pitch, both mentally and physically, and I've had enough of him. If a player has a physical limitation or a technical limitation that's one thing. But I cannot stand two things from players: Laziness and lack of game intelligence.

Matip shows both and if he didn't, he'd probably be the best defender at the club.

I honestly think our best natural defender (I'm excluding van Dijk from this analysis, btw) is Klavan. His problems stem largely from lack of pace and to be fair to him, he's managed to play around that for the past couple of months.


11.) 31 Dec 2017 19:08:09
Klavan has been our best CB recently without a doubt.


12.) 31 Dec 2017 19:37:10
How do I post some pics up Ed? I've highlighted in some photos what I mean. I'm not saying that Lovren was to blame, but he literally stood balling watching the entire time.
Before the ball reaches Mahrez on the right, Lovren is about a yard, Maybe a yard and a half away from Vardy.

By the time the ball is at Vardys feet, Lovren is about 5 yards away, Vardys moved right into the 6 yard box at this stage, and Lovren is jogging over the 18 yard line.

For one moment don't think I'm deflecting, but maybe have a look again.

{Ed033's Note - Upload images on the Sightings page.


13.) 31 Dec 2017 19:42:24
Like I say, Vardy was a yard, maybe 2 yards away from Lovren when he started, and maybe 6 or 7 yards away when he finished. Vardy didn't make that ground up because he's quick.
I'm far more willing to forgive a misplaced pass than I am giving up when the ball is still there to be won.


14.) 31 Dec 2017 19:55:56
3 photos uploaded to sightings. Hopefully this will prove I'm not just Lovren bashing for the sake of it.
Btw Indian Buzzer, when have I ever claimed Matip was the favourite? Barring his first 10 or so games for us, who in their right mind would say that? Gomez, Klavan, and I can't choose for 4th between the other two.


15.) 01 Jan 2018 00:09:52
Has anyone else noticed how the criticism of liverpool CBs just goes around in waves.


16.) 01 Jan 2018 00:09:52
Has anyone else noticed how the criticism of liverpool CBs just goes around in waves.


17.) 01 Jan 2018 11:18:40
I’ve noticed
It’s because they are both slow and take it in turns to have brain-farts.


18.) 01 Jan 2018 11:39:11
Matip thinks he is the defender version of Modric. Vardy brushed him when he tried to get back!


 

 

 

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18 Apr 2018 18:12:04
It'll be a new crush by then, Kovacic, anyone?

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05 Apr 2018 19:37:32
I'm hoping to take my 8 year old soon, I've not been either but patience young one :)

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30 Mar 2018 11:11:15
Somehow I feel that article should have Katie Hopkins written underneath it.
They don't " give up the best years of their life and their long term health" to make our weekends more interesting. That's absurd. They grew up playing the game they loved, and suddenly they got paid obscene amounts of money for it. I played at a low level and I did it for me, not spectators who most modern players won't give the time of day to.
Absurd. Out of touch.

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22 Mar 2018 10:39:14
Why do you even bother replying to this tripe? Read one of Ed02s many rebuttals on this subject for an honest and unbiased appraisal.

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11 Mar 2018 11:48:09
Completely wrong Irish Rover. The majority of players never win a trophy in their entire careers, bet they don't consider it a waste though. It's supposed to be fun, you know, a game.

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