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Team: Liverpool

Where from: NZ

Favourite player: Suarez

Best team moment: The obvious ones stand out but the lads demolishimg apurs at the lane like it was a training day was a nice memory


Timezone: (GMT +12:00) Auckland, Wellington, Fiji, Kamchatka

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26 Jan 2017 10:24:34
Did anyone else think that second half had some promising signs? Anywho, i maintain again that we are not as good as our 1st / 2nd position for a few weeks lead some to believe. We have a very good starting XI, and when playing well can tear apart any defence. But we are still not consistent enough and lack depth to deal with drop in form, injuries etc. People will point to Leicester but they had the added advantage of no expectations. As soon as Liverpool hit the top we had these pages flooded with whimsical fans getting carried away with hopes of a title challenge and posting how we're the best attacking team in europe and blah blah.

We need to understand that this team is still building. I said Klopp would need at least 2 - 3 summer transfer windows and pre-seasons to establish his squad. We are not there yet.

We do have a squad good enough to make the top 4 and we have given ourselves a great head start to achieve that. As it was at the start of the season, that should still he our target. Anything else is a bonus.
To me if we don't qualify for CL then that is the only tangible and measurable failure from the season.

You don't need to have blind faith, I certainly don't. But blind rage lost in emotional red mist I think is far worse!


1.) 26 Jan 2017 11:31:35
TBH though we didn't sign enough in the summer if you ask me.

Squad is piss thin and quality is lacking.

2.) 26 Jan 2017 11:49:52
I can accept top 4,a trophy wouldn't go amiss, I;m not sure you should require 2-3 summer transfer windows to build the squad you want. It really shouldn't take more than 2 given the money we are / have splashed out.
I personally think Klopp has made some errors in judgement we can not be gotten away from. for example not strengthening centrbacks and ditching Lovren, (there are others) He could have easily remedied that this summer.
I personally think asing for almost 4 seasons to make your mark on a team and build a championship contending 1 is a little long. I just don't get why we've seemingly ditched our press or moved Lallana wide in the front 3 when he as working well in the middle.

I just feel disappointed that we were up there with Chelsea as front runners, and have (along with the arse and spurs) let Chelsea run away with the title almost, (they haven't event played that well at points) but are somehow 8 points clear. I don't demand that we challenge right away, but I also don't expect us to capitulate when we miss one or 2 players and throw away a possible title winning season. For me that is what we have done.

3.) 26 Jan 2017 12:54:21
Good post faith I must say I totally agree with

4.) 26 Jan 2017 12:57:08
We all thought Chelsea would be found out but the reality is Liverpool has been found out at least thrice if not less in one month. We were top of the mountain in December. 2nd by Jan 1st, 3rd by Jan 15 and 4ty by Jan 20. We have a do or die match against Chelsea on Tuesday and I am sure they will park the biggest bus available against us.
Can't blame anyone else, Could we.

Our players are so depenedent on each other than you move one out the rest all struggle. Klopp doesn't have a contingency plan in case the usual pressing doesn't work.

We sacrificed the defense for high attacking fluid football and guess what when the front players have off days we rely on the defense. Simple old school football rule.

No ranting strict observations.

5.) 26 Jan 2017 18:11:28
Spot on, Faith. Love your post. We created 2-3 chances in the second half and had a stone wall penalty denied. That is what happens when you are struggling: you don`t get the calls that you deserve, same as the Utd game where their goal should never have stood due to the clear offside at the beginning of the play. The great start we had has made sure that we are not cut adrift from the top 4 as we are ONLY two points off second with 16 games left, a whole half-season.

Top 4 was the priority and should stay that way. The title? it was never on for me so not too bothered there. keep the faith, lads cos clearly, Klopp is trying his best to stop the rot so we need to support him in his low moments if we were quick to love him in his high moments. you can`t have one without the other, really.



14 Jan 2017 19:29:46
Some basic sports psyc for ya'll - how to deal with pressure? Just focus on what we can control. Only our own preparation and performance. Narrowing focus down to those things will help, all of which we have no control over!


1.) 14 Jan 2017 20:20:59
Spot on, Faith. But you know many on here always wanna control the outcomes of everything, knowing fully well that outcomes can never be totally controlled not just in life but especially in football.

However, luck is often defined as "when preparation meets opportunity". Hence, focus 110% on your preparation and you`ll be ready to pounce as soon as the opportunity arrives.

2.) 14 Jan 2017 21:49:12
I think we can safely assume that the Manc players will be fired up tomorrow.
As long as we show the same passion, determination, aggression and desire to win. we should have enough to beat them.

Come on lads. YNWA



31 Dec 2016 22:52:13
630am kick-off here in New Zealand on Jan 1st! Pub quiz question for first goal scorer or 2017 you could offer Gini as a cheeky answer!
Happy new year eds and everyonw else :)


{Ed025's Note - and you and your family mate..



31 Dec 2016 04:05:00
Ed001 - Is inside info for you guys harder to come by these days? Particularly at lfc?


{Ed001's Note - it really depends on who is involved.}

1.) 31 Dec 2016 06:29:47
Sweet as ed001 :)



20 Dec 2016 10:44:14
Ed001! Is there a particular reason why Klopp typically leaves his subs til so late in matches? Just his style? Or he puts most of his trust in the starting XI?


{Ed001's Note - because his team is dominating, if they weren't doing well then he would make changes sooner.}

1.) 20 Dec 2016 10:59:55
Because he doesn't want to disrupt the rhythm of the team. But sometimes I scream at him not brining on players 😎.

2.) 20 Dec 2016 11:42:04
I do think he's leaving it too late but this has been a recent thing. Until the injuries to Coutinho and Sturridge, Klopp made every sub in every game with 2 coming between the 60th and 70th in most games. Since those injuries he's been making 1, maybe 2, and usually late so it could also have to do with the quality and fitness of bench options with so many out injured.

3.) 20 Dec 2016 11:42:37
Probably because our bench isnt' that good.

4.) 20 Dec 2016 12:44:24
He does it to annoy Sweet Chin Music 😎.

5.) 20 Dec 2016 13:07:21
I would agree with ed on this most of the time, but weren't creating enough clear-cut chances. We were dominating but our threat in front of goal seemed to be fading after Firmino's one v one early in the second half. From then on our opportunities were a hopeful scissor kick and a shot from Firmino off a corner. I thought Klopp was cutting it every fine with his timing of the Sturridge substitution, but the important thing is he still made the substitution instead of settling for a hard-fought draw.

6.) 20 Dec 2016 16:56:02
You don`t just make changes to a team just because the rule book says you can. There`s a lot more thought that goes into it. Klopp doesn`t make changes because we as per the Everton game for example, were all over them in the second half and tho we didn`t create chances galore, it was a tight game with minimal space to create.

If you make a change then, you could disrupt the flow of the game. he made the change for Studge because they were nackered and were on their knees so at that point, bringing on Studge and Can (who can drive from midfield with speed) to take advantage of this, was the idea behind the sub and it was brilliant reading of the game.

And when the game was almost done, he put Lucas on to shut up shop. that is brilliant coaching and great use of your subs. There`s a reason he`s the manager and we`re not.

7.) 20 Dec 2016 21:26:42
yea that's truew hamilton, but let's be honest. would had we not scored the goal, would you not question the timing of bringing on impact subs?

8.) 20 Dec 2016 21:25:27
thanks ed001! I get the sense that Klopp ultimately trusts the guys he has put out on the field to do the job. and only makes changes when he absolutely has to. I did wonder if it was a trust thing with our wider squad, which I wouldn't be surprised at because imo we have a strong starting XI but still a bit thing wider than that.

cheers bro!

{Ed001's Note - if he had more options on the bench, that were playing well, then he would no doubt look to make changes earlier. It is difficult at the moment, the main man to bring in, Sturridge, is not just struggling for fitness, he is also woefully out of form and his touch is off. So you don't want him on for 30 minutes, when his poor touch might end up leading to them getting an advantage.}

9.) 20 Dec 2016 21:48:26
ye true that ed. I suppose at the same time, and if the correct opportunity arose for the team, sturridge does need match fitness too. I'm sure we'll see his minutes increased over time and hopefully his form returns in time too.

10.) 21 Dec 2016 15:03:23
My point exactly, Ed. Again, there`s a reason he is the manager and we are not and you just explained it right there. Also, it was clear Studge did not have even 20 minutes in him since he`d only returned to training a couple of days before and only had three sessions. These are the nuances that people don`t get hence, they moan without studying the situations further.




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17 Feb 2017 08:40:56
Thats saying something if his demands are outside chelseas means!?

Ed, you say cannot believe that they would be that stupid. I'm just wanting to understand. Are you saying that they have spoken direct with him ir that they wouldn't be stupid enough to?


{Ed002's Note - The original poster said that Liverpool were close to agreeing a pre-contract - I explained that Liverpool are not allowed to talk to the player nor agree a pre-contract. I then explained why he is available. It is perfectly clear.}



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13 Feb 2017 08:41:22
Does being in the champions league have an impact on how much we negotiate wgaes for potential signings?


{Ed001's Note - only in terms of having to pay bonuses each match.}



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11 Feb 2017 09:43:34
. hope for miracles.




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19 Jan 2017 19:31:31
The opinion on lovren / klavan is fine but your logic around recruiting isnt.
Lovren and klavan are doing a decent enough job for us. As it stands, we would only bring in a CB if we were selling one. So if that is the case, can we even do that sort of business in January that would bring about the definite succeed you crave? Cos any transfer like that would have to deliver the title this season otherwise it is a failure and a monumentus waste of time and money




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17 Jan 2017 11:03:25
That newcqstle team are playing well, doubt ojo would command a starting spot which us what you'd want if sending him on loan at this time of year surely





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24 Feb 2017 09:08:23
At this point in the season what are they truly able to do? I know that is a multi-layered question but I really think the board have held themselves hostage to the moment and forced themselves to be seen to ne doing something. They should have stuck with him relegation or not. I don't think this is the kind of situation where the players will spark up after the manager has been sacked. They're turning up for CL, but simply haven't been up to it for the prem since week 1. I think they continue their free fall but still have a chance to do something in CL.




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24 Feb 2017 09:04:27
I find it really hard to compare when Klopp is still mid-era. one consistent thing I can remember tho is that we've consistently struggled to beat teams that park the bus. Altho rafa, BR and Klopp had vastly different systems / styles, I think a lot of that comes down to never being able to secure enough talent and creativity to consistently break teams down.




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21 Feb 2017 20:46:44
interesting debate MK and I would agree to some extent and then go further to say that some players simply don't wqork out at a club. And for the "big" clubs, or for a club like ours that has small margins to play with, we really are looking to strike lightening in a bottle with our signings.

I think that our greatest failings have been in not capitalizing on the moments where we have struck gold. Rafa's era, suarez sping to mind. and then obviously having stevie G for so long and not being able to consistently put a championship squad around him to make the most of his drive.

young players come and go, but are we really going to persist with a 20 yr old prospect until their mid 20s hoping they would hit their peak and not derail our performances at the same time!? I doubt that very much, and the evidence is clear that is something we don't do.




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19 Feb 2017 07:31:53
Its hard because you can't argue with goals. But I think over a longer period of tine we have seen Vardy regress to the mean so to speak. I'm never big on bringing in players based on their prime 2 seasons ago so I would advicate that Vardy is strictly hands off.




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17 Feb 2017 08:48:30
I never underestand the thinking of the previous two posters.

Ita all relative right? So let's find out - woild you work for 1% your weekly wage til you proved to your boss that you are any good!?