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Team: Liverpool

Where from: NZ

Favourite player: Suarez

Best team moment: The obvious ones stand out but the lads demolishimg apurs at the lane like it was a training day was a nice memory


Timezone: (GMT +12:00) Auckland, Wellington, Fiji, Kamchatka

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19 Apr 2017 09:56:36
Eds, what's the play with young Allan Rodriguez. What are the chances he gets his permit next season. Are the club wanting to fight to keep him?


{Ed001's Note - the club would love to keep him, it is most likely he gets another loan move next season.}

1.) 19 Apr 2017 12:39:57
How good is he eds? Not seen much of him. Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - he is highly rated by the club and in Germany.}

2.) 19 Apr 2017 22:00:11
i know i was surprised that he managed to get loaned to a german team in the top league.

What would you say is the reason for him not getting much game time is it literally a case of him just not what the manager wants in his starting 11?

{Ed001's Note - he is young, still getting used to the country and not really ready to be a regular starter.}




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27 Jun 2017 14:26:06
Just regarding ox he would bring versatility, pace and power, prem / European / international experience and lots of room for him to improve in the areas many have pointed out are his flaws. One of which, his intelligence on the ball, to me is extremely unfair given his age and predominantly playing on the wing. If milner could barely transition from utility / winner to a Central midfield position in his late twenties to thirties, it surely is not a fair standard to be measuring the Ox against.


1.) 27 Jun 2017 15:42:37
Milner and ox arw like two peas in a pod.

Both tryers but never top level.

Ox is ok. that's it. Nothing special.

To put this crap to bed all arsenal have done is buy him out of the team.

Him and wilshire are garbage, and arsene knows it.

If you can't get keita whose the target then leave that position and see if he's avaluable next yesr and go and sign are next position of need in mendy.

2.) 27 Jun 2017 16:08:33
😂 😂 here comes the "he's potentially world class, he's young, he's this, he's that"
Sorry I've watched ox for years now and he's not good enough and will never be close to top class in any position because he simply doe not have the ability.
Keita clearly is highly unlikely but I'd rather wijnaldim continuing to progress in midfield than wasting 20 plus million on a player who will do nothing but add onto the wage bill.
I still think wijnaldim does not do enough on the pitch but the difference is he has a lot of ability. He's technically excellent. He also works hard and has improved.
Unfortunately being English, being relatively young and because klopp rates him magically confuses fans.
Let's not carry political correctness into football.
Form your own opinions. Klopps not a magician and has certainly bought poorly before.

3.) 27 Jun 2017 16:29:31
Spot on Super and Big Al. The description many are painting of the Ox simply does not match the player many of us have been watching for the past 4 years. They paint a pic of a player that does not exist and has never existed. He brings versatility, can run all day and the pother stuff. So what? We should then just sign him up for that.

He has limited ability unlike Wiji, Lallana, Hendo and even Grujic has more potential than him in CM. The fact that someone actually posted that, "Ox has more ability than Lallana" is the one that took the biscuit for me. He is overrated and has very little if any tactical or positional intelligence cos I have simply not seen any. The kid just ain't that special.

Cos Klopp rates him and cos he's English (another pathetic excuse) does not erase his poor record at Arsenal regardless of how the poor record came about. If Klopp can make him better and improve him then, I'll defer to him BUT let's not start painting a picture of a player that does not exist, to describe Ox.

4.) 27 Jun 2017 16:29:38
Funny because you said gini wasn't good enough and said he was a terrible signing too Big Al.

5.) 27 Jun 2017 16:44:20
People just need to trust Klopp. We were judging Wijaldum before he signed as well even the eds did and look how he worked out. I think the Ox will prove to be a very good player for us. I really like his attitude. From watching Arsenal last season he was one of the only players that never gave up. We need players with this mentality as we drop our heads far to often when we concede first. Plus I have been bombarding the eds with posts asking about adding depth for our wingers and he will be it now thank god.

6.) 27 Jun 2017 16:46:45
Afternoon all hope you are all well, in my opinion oxlade chamberlain is going to be playing more of a Lucas lieva role and in terms of quality I would say he has more than Lucas, he is also cover for the wings so upgrade all around if u ask me.

7.) 27 Jun 2017 17:07:11
Cyklopps, trusting Klopp is not the issue for me. My issue is that people are just making it out that Ox is some very good player who will improve us, something that is patently false IMO due to his poor record at Arsenal.

I criticized Klopp for signing Wiji cos I thought he had a poor attitude at Newcastle towards the end. Not once, did I question his ability as I already watched him play at the World Cup where he was brilliant as well as at Newcastle. Same with Mane. Ox does not have the ability Wiji, Hendo, Can and Lallana or IMO, the potential of Grujic to play in CM. That is just the reality. Now if Klopp wants him, then I will defer to him. To me, they are separate issues.

Joes, Ox to play the DM position that Lucas played at LFC? You have lost me there, bro.

8.) 27 Jun 2017 17:21:36
In all honesty Brussels you seem lost with the whole oxlade chamberlain transfer. In terms of midfield next season I expect there to be a lot of changing players round like can and ox swapping defensive and attacking roles same for Henderson and gini, formations will change aswell I expect but I'm mentioning Lucas because who else will leave from the centre other than Lucas?

9.) 27 Jun 2017 20:36:10
Joes, I'm not lost on anything. I am giving my opinion and you are free to disagree. Now regarding my response to you. You mentioned Lucas, saying Klopp may need Ox to play the Lucas role, if possible. How is that even possible whereas Ox is not and never will be a DM or a makeshift DM? That's all I'm asking as your posts are incoherent, seen that Ox is an attacking player and Lucas is a true DM.

10.) 27 Jun 2017 22:25:34
Brussels I respect your opinion but don't agree with it that's all, just think though Lucas was attacking midfielder before he joined Liverpool and plus did you ever think of Milner as a left back? Caulker as a forward? Believe it or not what I've heard and believe is oxlade chamberlain is being looked at for central midfield to do work at either end but as I also said to be swapped around with the other 4-5 out and out midfielders we already have.

11.) 28 Jun 2017 07:56:54
I think we are focusing far too much on what he can't do or hasn't developed yet. I'd understand if Ox was 30 but he has all his best years ahead of him and could be a great fit under Klopp's guidance. Ok it may be hard to see where he fits in the starting line-up, but isn't the point that we have guys in the squad who can push each other and compete for starting berth? I woild be careful about how we talk about such things, no one except stevie G before his last season and a half, demand a starting place on name alone.



07 Jun 2017 21:04:01
Presumably with Edwards in that role he will handle all negotiations and transfers. If that's not happening then it should be. Not because he is the right guy, but purely because of his position it is the right way to allocate the duties. Klopp shoild be focusing on football matters at the club, that is all. Will wait for more details, but it would not surprise if Klopp got his tongue flappin prematurely here. Would love to see the full story soon.!

A note about the eds. I think that some of ya need to keep in check the info we get. It is the best itk info we can get but my assumption is that because they are receiving info second-hand, that literally anything can happen between their inside knowledge and things happening. As evidenced today. don't blame the eds, its far more reliable and knowledgeable info we're privvy too than the rags. Kia kaha eds (stay strong eds)!


{Ed025's Note - at the top of the page you will see the words..TRANSFER RUMOURS faith, when we open a "set in stone" site it will be policed differently mate.. :)

1.) 07 Jun 2017 21:35:16
Im pretty sure klopp has nothing to do with transfer negotiations and is only involved in identifying targets.

2.) 07 Jun 2017 21:44:43
hi Ed025 I bet you can't stop laughing. I don't know what to think about this complete mess. Surely even we must have finally learned our lesson and this is the last time. I am not sure players will care too much about it.

I think we will spend £180m so just hope we invest it wisely and we might even call the selling club first.

{Ed025's Note - im taking no pleasure in it at all mark mate, liverpool have very passionate supporters who pay good money to support the club some i bet beyond their means, your right about it being a mess alright but these things tend to blow over..

3.) 07 Jun 2017 22:03:54
To be ed. Its sall good when someones mate got a taxi who had just picked up ian ayres wife who informed him that he couldn't pick her up because he was in rome for some reason.

But when someone comes on saying salag is 100% done. Vvd is done. Im not having a go but sure that doesn't count as a rumour anymore. Eseciallt when someone with maccas credibility says it.

Theres no hard feelings from me. As mucb as i hate to say it for all of us but unless its on ob skysports the deal usually isn't done.

{Ed025's Note - i know what your saying supermane but i dont think its done with any malice, some information can be unconfirmed or as in the VVD case less than legal but im sure its provided with the best of intentions mate..

4.) 07 Jun 2017 22:15:42
Nice one. I was thinking that, bigger scandals have happened and they do blow over. We might be best paying Roma the asking price and moving on.

5.) 07 Jun 2017 22:20:36
ed25 - just saying that when your guys inside word doesn't quite work out, it ain't cos the eds were wrong as some are suggesting.

{Ed025's Note - thats right faith, not all information can be 100% which is why we tend to err on the side of caution mate..

6.) 07 Jun 2017 23:01:09
Yeah i get it lad.

Its just when it ends in confirmed or done. Its takin literally. Througj good reason aswel. End of the if we didn't trust and believe in these guys then noone would be getting angry. Its only because we know how spot on they are that you believe it.

Same as ed with kovacic. When he says something that's it, shes always spot on, but he's not a wizard.

We haven't lost any trust and i want to personally thank macca for making the effort to give us some news.



02 Jun 2017 16:08:06
Our first choice XI (firmino edition) was up there with the best in the prem. Our lack of quality depth was a big factor in helping us overcome the inevitable physical and mental fatigue that build up over a season as well as covering injuries. It is understandable that some want the likes of Griezman as a top-end signing. But we shouldn't dismiss the value of adding the likes of salah to an already elite attack brings in terms of quality depth at 1st team level.


1.) 02 Jun 2017 16:19:20
I don't think it's fair to judge Salah on one half season under Mourinho. He's only 24 and his best years are ahead of him. He's been utterly superb this season abc returned to the form at Basle when he ripped most teams apart in the Champions League.

2.) 02 Jun 2017 16:35:25
It's hard to fully judge a lot of players under Mourinho. Lukaku, Salah, KDB and even Luke Shaw now. he seems to intimidate players in a negative factor. Judging Salah in that short spell at Chelsea shouldn't be looked upon 2 seriously, he for me is a great talent, explosive pace, unreal dribbling ability and a decent eye for goal and most importantly can easily adjust across all 3 attacking positions in our free flowing play.

3.) 02 Jun 2017 17:24:08
Don't forget he bullied Hazard and impaired his ability. Salah is a really good signing when all said and done.

4.) 02 Jun 2017 19:12:57
Every time I saw salah play for Chelsea he seemed electric. Fair enough he didn't play often but I really don't think he got a decent chance. I'd be pleased with his signing.



16 Apr 2017 02:11:45
My son was born on the morning of April 16 2014. Hillsborough anniversary New Zealand time. We were always going to name him Isaiah but given thensignificance of the day and the 25th anniversary, we wanted (well I did and my wife jumped on board haha) to include Justice as one of his middle names. Because in NZ its on the list of names ya can't really use without aporoval, we had to apply to Internal Affairs. We made our case based on our affinity to the club, the significance of the day to the club and the people of Liverpool, and the relevance of the word Justice and JFT96. They eventually approved and so we legally have Isaiah Ioane Justice Viliamu!

Now, 3 today, he has heard many stories of Liverpool, lay asleep quietly when stevie slipped away the league ( :p ), run around the room crazy after Lovren's header vs Dortmund altho I think he was just copying daddy and for 3 birthdays now has heard the story of hillsborough and why fighting for Justice was so important for the liverpool people and is important for all of us to fight for. He sings now as best as he can - "justice fodda nineny nix" haha

Anyways just wanted to share the story. And that whilst we may have times when we are at each other for whatever reason whether it difference of opinions or sometimes because we are not from the city. Just wanted the people of Liverpool to know that there are those of us from around the world who as deeply connected to the club as we can be whilst so geogrpahically diatanced. But we love the club as much as we can!

It wasnt just the football but also the stories of how Anfield rocked all night, how educated Anfield fans were and would applaud moments of brilliance from the opposition, how the people of Liverpool fought for Justice everyday. That a Samoan from New Zealand can be in love with a club in the way I am, I think that is something for your city and people to be proud of. #YNWA #JFT96 #JUSTICESERVED.


1.) 16 Apr 2017 02:31:20
Thanks form sharing mate. My regards to little Justice. He'll never walk alone. JFT96!

2.) 16 Apr 2017 04:18:19
Great read that mate. It is amazing how we can all be so intense about something so far away, that many of us may never even get to see in person.

3.) 16 Apr 2017 09:19:47
Just seen this- belated happy bday justice ynwa.

4.) 16 Apr 2017 09:38:50
Awesome story. Thanks for sharing.

5.) 16 Apr 2017 10:02:34
Nice one faith in works. good story that and this is the type of thing that makes football great. Just goes to show u don't need to be there to support as some people say. Ynwa.

6.) 16 Apr 2017 14:00:14
Thanks for taking time to read! Cheers team! Great day for the little guy munching easter eggs and stomping muddy puddles! 1am here, time for the lads in red to wake up the neighbourhood!



11 Apr 2017 03:30:01
hey ed001, what's the play regards sessengon and the transfer ban. I feel like I read you saying that the ban means we couldn't sign him? but can't find it in search.


{Ed001's Note - I never said anything about it. We can't sign players for the academy but I very much doubt we would want him for the academy. He is a better left back than most in English football and would walk into our first team right now. As he will be 17 soon, we can sign him on a professional, rather than academy contract. If I remember rightly, he turns 17 in May.}

1.) 11 Apr 2017 08:31:49
He is very young and would need a season or two to get used to the pace of the PL. I see it as a pointless signing. We need a first team player. An experienced left back.

2.) 11 Apr 2017 09:31:05
Age has nothing to do with it Harry, if he's good enough then get him in. These players have got to start their premier league careers somewhere and he's going to be a great player. I'd rather he comes in next season, he's going to make some mistakes but it's part of the learning.

3.) 11 Apr 2017 09:26:20
Ed001 do you expect us to sign him in the summer?

{Ed001's Note - I certainly expect us to try, and, despite Harry's mumblings, the lad is more than ready for the Prem's pace. He is showing his ignorance of English football there, or he would know the Championship is faster and more physical than the Prem.}

4.) 11 Apr 2017 10:37:21
I worry about chucking a lad so young straight into the first team, one mistake and our "fans" will rip him to shreds like Karius.

5.) 11 Apr 2017 10:38:22
cool thanks ed. maybe it was ed002? anywho that is helpful as now I understand the ban better!
I thought that we couldn't sign any player in an academy or had been in academy for past 18 months.
I do hope we get him, has a cracking future and looks like he has the temperament to step right into the prem league for us in the way Gomez did for that brief spell before he go injured.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, I will have to reread the ruling, as you have a point on that last bit. Having reread it, I am still unsure: will be prohibited from registering any academy players who have been registered with a Premier League or EFL club in the preceding 18 months. That could be interpreted to mean we cannot sign anyone who was in an academy within the last 18 months. Though I took it to mean that we just could not register them for our academy, the wording is vague enough to be uncertain.}

6.) 11 Apr 2017 11:34:52
Disagree Mikey, the lad has experience of playing regularly in England and left back is a position where you are not in the spotlight as much as keeper.
Good enough = old enough.

7.) 11 Apr 2017 10:59:03
Hmm k hopefully some gurus can help us! But often these things can tested in court if its vague enough aye? My sense is that it is the former and we simply can't sign academy players to any level of our club. I can't imagine why the ruling would allow us to sign an academy player on a technicality to the first team if that wasnt the intention. But ye, maybe ed02 knows for sure!?

{Ed002's Note - It would not go to court - if Liverpool continue to ignore the rules and the regulations there will be further fines, longer bans, points deductions etc.. All of the "good enough" is "old enough" is nonsense as the fans don't understand the difference between being professional and not - they don't understand the rules surrounding children and they certainly don't understand the responsibilities the club has. Under 18 they have to attend school and they are limited by hours how much they can train each week. And there are a bunch of other rules that need to be adhered to as well. Signing on a schoolboy who can only thrain part time to play as a first team player in the premier league is stupidity itself. Is Klopp that stupid? Another interested side has a proposal which includes a player as part of the deal and a two year loan back to Fulham. Another wants him for the junior sides and another will look to a loan abroad and monitor the situation. Doing anything else could be detrimental to his career.}

8.) 11 Apr 2017 13:00:55
Ed 2 said we could sign him because it would be a pro contract.

{Ed002's Note - He can be signed to a professional contract but he is still a child and will need to be dealt with accordingly - restricted training, going to school etc..}

9.) 11 Apr 2017 15:48:36
Ron, you are right BUT Mikey still has a point. Patience is becoming extinct among many of our fan base and if you think they won't get on the kid's back when he struggles (COS HE WIIL), then you are fooling yourself. Karius is a good example and that should NEVER be ignored.

10.) 11 Apr 2017 16:11:03
Ed 002, I thought students could leave school after the age of 16? Or has Sessegnon made the choice to continue, meaning the club have to work around his schooling?

{Ed002's Note - All players must receive education until the age of 18 and they are restrited as I have explained.}

11.) 11 Apr 2017 17:13:34
Just like we bought the second best keeper from bundesleague ( Young and Learning ) . My opinion. I wouldn't drop a penny on anymore kids. We have enough with us.

12.) 11 Apr 2017 18:31:41
There's plenty of youngsters break into teams and play regularly and have to train as well as receive an education. Why couldn't Sessignon do it at LFC? Is there no under 18's on professional contracts?

13.) 11 Apr 2017 20:29:09
I don't think he will struggle, but what do I know?
Milner and him share the left back slot. Who better to mentor him than Milner, a player who also played premier league football as a kid and has had a great career?

Just an opinion, as sensible or as daft as anyone else 🤠.

14.) 14 Apr 2017 01:52:58
ah I see see, thanks eds.
so we could sign sessengon to a pro contract and have him in the first team, but that could be detrimental to his development ye? i tend to agree with that.

if we were to sign him and develop him the right way - probably then only really viable option for us that wouldn't breach our ban would be to send him back to fulham? I struggle to see how sending a 18 yr old abroad would be good for him, especially a british lad?

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained on another thread, Fulham would be reluctant to do business with Liverpool and I think this is a player you can set aside for the time being.}




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18 Jun 2017 08:25:14
for me, the point about physicality is more a question of whether Coutinho can play that CM role as tirelessly and effectively as Gini and Lallana do over a full match. there is no doubt that Coutinho can do the things like tackle and track back etc, but I'm not convinced that he has the engine to really impact the game from the middle of the park in that #8 role. I do think it is the most natural progression in his game, but he ain't there yet.

If Coutinho does play deeper, we wouldn't be changing our formation to suit him would we? altho I think that we should if that was the case. say a position behind the main attackers would be perfect for him and then protection behind him. like when he was at the tip of the diamond in suarez time with us. that is perfect for him and allows him to be at his best in the part of the pitch where he is most effective.




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11 Jun 2017 11:33:59
A defender who can turn draws into wins? Seriously?




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06 Jun 2017 02:31:09
ed001 - did you have an opinion of robertson mate? I think you said somewhere that you've seen him plenty of times, but not sure if you gave an assessment on him?
thanks in advance.


{Ed001's Note - I have given an opinion on him countless times. He is not a player that impresses me.}



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02 Jun 2017 21:54:39
Exactly Slimz. Making money and being a competitive / successful title-challenging club are not mutually exclusive.




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02 Jun 2017 15:11:01
People realize that FSG brought Klopp in aye? He didn't just fall out of yhe sky or force JWH and co to make him manager or else. and yea, in't funny how the guys who invest the money are about the money? I wonder why. take eds advice and forget money.





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28 Jun 2017 07:56:54
I think we are focusing far too much on what he can't do or hasn't developed yet. I'd understand if Ox was 30 but he has all his best years ahead of him and could be a great fit under Klopp's guidance. Ok it may be hard to see where he fits in the starting line-up, but isn't the point that we have guys in the squad who can push each other and compete for starting berth? I woild be careful about how we talk about such things, no one except stevie G before his last season and a half, demand a starting place on name alone.




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28 Jun 2017 05:15:55
charlie adam could be available if we have a spare 10 mil?




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26 Jun 2017 11:36:53
Jamie Milner is in his 30s, would you have said the same thing about him at 23?




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26 Jun 2017 11:35:35
did someone say he can't pass? yet he has double-figure assists. did those assists bounce off his arse into a teammate's knee and into the goal.11 times.!? lol anywho, he is definitely a squad who could be good enough to push for a starting place. he ain't some young buck to chuck on the bench and hope that he can do something when thrown to the lions, he ain't Ojo or Wilson. It would be a worthy purchase. I don't care about the price as the eds have told us time and again not to worry about it, so not worry about it I shall!




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25 Jun 2017 23:44:56
that's a great point Max, and sometimes you get the feeling that our guys have a bit of "well they do it too" bithciness about them when they enter negotiations.