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08 Jan 2019 10:57:45
One for Ed001 and Ed002 if possible. I see that Godin is potentially being touted for Man Utd.

Do we hold any interest at all? Given his age and experience, do you think he would be a good choice to rotate with VVD and Gomez? I would expect Lovren to make way.

Is the fee being asked for him high in this market (ie >€30m) or less than that? I'm not sure of his contract situation.




{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any interest from us and I have no idea what price is being asked sorry. I am a bit out of touch at the moment.}

1.) 08 Jan 2019 11:56:06
Thanks Tris. I know you’ve been a fan of Godin’s. In your view, would he be a good addition for us, even at 32? Would he work well with VVD and Gomez given their relative speed?

{Ed001's Note - I love Godin and training with Gomez and VVD would be great for them to learn the dark arts of defending, as Godin is the master of them in the modern game. However he is not really suited to our style of play on the pitch, so, much as I love him, it would maybe not be as good a signing as it would seem on the face of it. Moving to a higher paced league at the age of 32 would be difficult enough for him, without asking him to play 15 yards further up the pitch than he usually does.}

2.) 08 Jan 2019 12:25:48
Sorry, forgot to add, whether you think we need another CB at the expense of Lovren and/ or Matip? The way I see it we now have a very good squad and just need to tweak round the edges to ensure the replacements for our first 11 a) can play in the same way to allow for better integration (not like Sturridge for example) and b) are of a slightly better quality than some we have.

To find very good players who are happy with rotation, in my view you either go for players are the start or end of their careers.

{Ed025's Note - the problem is zed that you dont have "a very good squad", you have a very good first team but i think yesterday showed that the squad is just about how weak as it can get mate, just my view of course..

3.) 08 Jan 2019 12:41:04
Thanks Tris. He sounds like one to keep tabs on and nab in a few years time when he moves into coaching!

4.) 08 Jan 2019 13:03:52
This squad we have is good when we don't have to use them. On paper it's solid but in action it's atrocious!

5.) 08 Jan 2019 13:04:22
P. s. I think our first team is outstanding, not “very good” 😉.

6.) 08 Jan 2019 13:03:39
I take your point Ed025, but the team yesterday wasn’t a team we would put out in the premiership. The Man City team, for example, was an adult lot of regular starters. Maybe very good is pushing it, and we definitely don’t have 2 players for each position. I honestly think our biggest issue is having 3 other attackers in the same mould as our regular 3. Sturridge and Origi play a different type of game which unbalanced the rest of the team too. I have high hopes for Brewster, especially as he had been modelling himself on Bobby, and would like to see how well Kent could do back in our team, not forgetting Woodburn too. However, I suspect we will see Origi and Studge gone by the summer and at least one new player brought in. Would still love for that to be Fekir.

7.) 08 Jan 2019 16:18:09
Top and bottom is first 15 are quality the rest are bang average.

8.) 08 Jan 2019 18:35:36

Alisson/ Mignolet --- Ederson/ Bravo


A. Arnold/ Camacho/ --- Walker/ Danilo
Robertson/ Moreno --- Mendy/ Zinchenko
VanDijk/ Matip --- Stones/ Otamendi
Lovren/ Gomez --- Laporte/ Kompany


Henderson/ Fabinho --- Fernandinho/ Delph
Milner/ Keita --- DeBruyne/ Gundogan
Wijnaldum/ Chamberlain --- D. Silva/ Foden


Salah/ Shaqiri --- Sterling/ B. Silva
Mane/ Lallana --- Sane/ Mahrez
Firmino/ Sturridge --- Aguero/ G. Jesus

We have nice depth.

{Ed025's Note - kidding yourself mate..

9.) 08 Jan 2019 17:35:38
I think the problem is that we have about 15 players who have been fully integrated into the Klopp playing style. Some of the others are good to very good players who can't/ won't play the way we need them to (Sturridge, Origi, Moreno) and we need to address this. The squad is a good size but not all of them are a good fit for how we play.

10.) 08 Jan 2019 19:14:34
Based on last night's performance Moreno, Sturridge and Origi should have played their last game for LFC. I would rather the youngsters given the chance than play those 3 bafoons. I have never seen such a lack of effort from Sturridge, Moreno is just a terrible player, how he has got to such a high standard is beyond me. He makes Djimi Traore look good and Origi is just a headless chicken. The sooner those 3 are booted out the better.

11.) 08 Jan 2019 19:57:26
Ed025 no offence but we are top of the league. I like you a lot but I'm afraid to say our squad is rubbish is a regretful comment.

{Ed025's Note - your first team is great hessle and i would suggest even better than city,s, i never called them rubbish mate i called them weak and i stand by that, you may get away with it and win the league anyway...but if you get injuries to 1 or 2 key players it could easily go tits up as i dont think you have the quality of back up that the likes of city have, just an opinion of course..

12.) 08 Jan 2019 21:48:56
Completely agree ed025.

Our squad depth is on paper full. Yes we have a lot of players. But good squad depth is when a player can come in to replace a player and the team play a similar style, the way City have it setup they’ve got exactly that.

We take off mane or Salah we bring on someone with half the pace and not the same energy levels to press in Sturridge, Lallana or Origi. City take off sane or sterling and they bring on Mahrez pretty much the same type of player.

We are along way from having the squad depth to play the same style of play our first team play let alone level and that was clear to see on Monday.

{Ed025's Note - your right jordz, and thats what i have been trying to explain mate..

13.) 08 Jan 2019 23:59:05
Defo still need more signing for the bench. Players have to leave of course.

14.) 09 Jan 2019 00:21:08
I think you Ed, like a lot of other rival fans look at a game last night and try to use it to have a sly dig when you know the truth really.
Fact is our squad is very good. If you take out 10 of any teams best 11 and replace them with a mixture of squad players and development players they would struggle to beat a full strength premier league team away from home.
You are never going to have to play that many squad players and kids at the same time in a game that actually means something.
You might be missing 2 or 3 first team players at any one time and we have more than enough to cover that in most positions. Of course there are players that are world class that we’d miss like VVD, Alisson or Salah so if they were all missing at the same time we’d suffer but not anywhere near as badly as you’re trying to make out.
Wishful thinking on your part I’m afraid mate.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know why you think i would wish that bobby..

15.) 09 Jan 2019 14:38:55
Bit of Ed25 bashing here! He is right, look at Liverpool's last 2 season's they have shown they are capable of only challenging on 1 front, not 2 or 3. Last season - UCL was the focus. This season - the prem, and they've done very well at different times.

I'd say we have maybe 8 "top" players IMO (Salah, Mane, Bobby, Alisson, VVD, Robbo, Gini + Fabinho) 8 "good" players (Hendo, Gomez, TAA, Keita, Shaqiri, Milner, Ox, Lovren) . The rest are average, very young, or terrible (not naming any names! )

16 top/ good players (when all are fit) does not make a good squad!

The last two years have seen a great improvement, but still a long way to go. Squads are built not bought! (Unless you are City! )

16.) 09 Jan 2019 20:05:42
I hate the argument that if you lose your best 1 or 2 players you are not as strong. that is as obvious as saying snow is white.
If any team lost VVD or Salah or Allison they would be severely weakened.
Monday was stupidity not lack of depth. it was reserves it was a load of kids away at a strong PL Team. and they lost 2.1.
Klopp put 1 or 2 other in, we win.

{Ed002's Note - It is more a matter of refraction. Snow is actually not unliske sugar, a pale transluscent violet.}

17.) 09 Jan 2019 20:18:07
If we were honest the only position we have any decent cover is in midfield where we play 3 players, and have Henderson, Milner, Gini, Shaq, Fabinho, Keita, Lallana and Ox (when fit) .

Our goalkeeper cover is Mignolet so I will leave it at that.
Defence cover includes Matip, Lovren and Moreno
Forward cover Sturridge, Origi
I would even say Uniteds bench is often better than ours. Let alone City’s.

18.) 11 Jan 2019 06:07:53
Same as polar bears, their fleece isn't actually white, it just reflects the colors around them.



01 Aug 2018 00:05:47
Barca apparently also interested in Migs for around £12.5m according to Sly.

To replace Cillessen, who's heading out.

Besiktas still also interested.

Will be enlightening to see if Migs wants game time or bench trophies.


1.) 01 Aug 2018 01:57:53
Why does it have to be those options? I think its sad how we try to analyze athletes decisions these days.

2.) 01 Aug 2018 06:15:37
No one else seems to be in for Mignolet as a first choice. So I guess if he's going to No 2 somewhere, Barcelona is probably not a bad place to go - almost certain trophies, nice place to live, being reunited with ex-Liverpool teammates :-), etc.

3.) 01 Aug 2018 06:33:14
He will also get game time at Barcelona, he will play all the Copa Del Rey games and maybe even the champions league games. And as you say more than likely win trophies and live in a fantastic city. He won’t even make our bench next season so let’s just be happy for the guy and hope the move happens.

4.) 01 Aug 2018 07:16:12
Zed, not a huge fan of what you're implying there. Going to Barcelona, even as a back up, is a big deal and something to be proud of.

5.) 01 Aug 2018 07:24:38
I completely get where axed is coming from here guys. Word is that Migs wants out of lfc due to not being no1 - so how would going to Barcelona solve that?

And Putney it’s says a lot of a career highlight would be barely playing (if at all) for Barca.

He’s good enough to play for a mid table/ just below prem team. He’ll get good wages and actually play.

6.) 01 Aug 2018 07:34:13
Agreed 87.

7.) 01 Aug 2018 08:36:00
Just to clarify, Barcelona are a great team, but as 87 said, if Karius leaves, which I suspect he will, then Migs would be swapping our bench for Barca’s. Doesn’t make much sense.

He is good enough for other teams, especially more defensive ones, so if his complaint is lack of playing time, surely you’d expect to see him join one of those, either here or overseas, rather than warming Barca’s bench and getting the odd run out.

8.) 01 Aug 2018 08:37:30
Amazing how no one has mentioned money. Maybe he will get a big signing on fee and whopping weekly wages guaranteed for four or five years.

This could set him up for life to live in one of the most fantastic cities in the world. Doesn’t sound that bad to me. And maybe he’s happy to be second fiddle to achieve this.

Good luck to him - wish I had that type of luck!

9.) 01 Aug 2018 08:52:46
If he was going to a standard team to sit on the bench i would question it, but it IS Barcelona, not many people get the chance to play for them, so i wouldn't criticise him for going there.

10.) 01 Aug 2018 09:05:45
I think you’re all missing the point. It’s up to Mignolet where he chooses to go. If he decides to go to Barcelona that’s up to him and all you’re doing is second guessing his reasons why. He’ll have his own reason for going to the team he does (if he does leave), there’s no way we can know for sure what they are.

11.) 01 Aug 2018 09:08:19
I’m not criticising him if he goes to Barca. Just pointing out it’s contrary to his apparent unhappiness of being a bench player.

12.) 01 Aug 2018 09:28:07
I'm with 87Red here, also not criticising, but does appear odd if his aim is 1st team starts.

13.) 01 Aug 2018 13:26:55
I think ya'll are playing a bit to much couch psychologist. If you have a chance to go to Barca, then go. It's ok to change your mind when you have new information.

14.) 01 Aug 2018 14:07:55
Have to say, the abuse and lack of respect reserved for our keepers is the one thing that has made me uncomfortable about being a Liverpool supporter over the last few years.

The (Kop lead) jeering and ironic cheers that could be heard in Anfield when both Karius and Migs were struggling was nothing short of shameful. I hope to God that Alisson doesn't start off poorly for us because the pressure we put our own keepers under will only end up one way.

I wish Migs all the best wherever he goes. Like every other Red who wore the jersey with honesty and sincerity, I hope he only gets better and regains the form that made us buy him in the first place.

15.) 01 Aug 2018 17:27:08
If I was Mignolet I’d go to Barca. Might not play as much, but medals make up for that. Plus with the political situation in Turkey it’s hardly the safest place in the world.

16.) 01 Aug 2018 22:29:58
Dudek did the same at Madrid. Had a decent career for them playing second fiddle. No shame in it imho.

17.) 02 Aug 2018 10:00:27
The other thing you have to remember is that there’s the chance of playing alongside some of the best players in the world and in Messi one of the greatest players to have graced the game, who would not want an opportunity for that. Also maybe the Barcelona fans might not give him grief constantly and with a different goalkeeping coach he may actually improve. Most Liverpool fans don’t want him at the club then bitch and moan when it looks like a move may happen. Best of luck to him I say.



25 Jul 2018 09:19:54
Sheyi Ojo is linked with moves to either Nottingham Forest or Reading, according to The Echo. Forest apparently interested in a £10m purchase, Reading interested in a loan.

The source of the story (Googling it and looking for the oldest news article) seems to be The S*n so not sure on accuracy. For obvious reasons, I didn't click through to the original story.

Chiravella also appears to be linked with Forest, although The Echo says they are unlikely to move now they have Colback on loan again for the season.

Both of them are 21, both have been highly thought of, and both are of an age where they should be getting starts in the first team (at least for cup games) if they have a longer term future at the club.

I wonder if other, younger, players have overtaken them in the pecking order and therefore a move (even permanent) is probably best for their careers?


1.) 25 Jul 2018 09:53:53
Yeah Chirivella in particular is never realistically gong to break into the team, so may as well get him a good move and a few bob for our troubles. I like Ojo as a player and think he's got potential but needs to find consistency and won't get the game time at Liverpool. Really now with Shaqiri there is little room for Ojo, especially considering we've got Camacho and Adekanye coming through and of course Wilson out on loan. I'd take 10 million pounds for Ojo in a heartbeat. Pity I don't own him, though.

2.) 25 Jul 2018 12:16:02
I’d snap their hands off for 10m.

3.) 25 Jul 2018 12:43:22
Annoying when you start reading a story and halfway through you see that rag is the original source.

I just instantly stop reading it and couldn't be bothered what the rest says.

4.) 25 Jul 2018 14:13:20
Agreed Irish I once saw a homeless man sitting on a copy of the sun, I immediately took it off him and binned it! Before I replaced it with the daily mirror.

5.) 25 Jul 2018 14:34:15
To be fair, Irish, I did try to reference it as soon as possible!



18 Jul 2018 16:06:51
Sky Italia (reported via Sky Sports) now saying the whole deal has been agreed with Alisson and Roma, including transfer fee/ payments, and a 5 year contract with Alisson.

He is due to fly to Liverpool in the next day or so for a medical which is the last O/ S thing.

Watch out for ACL twitches ;-)

Hailstones, this is going to happen, I suggest you tell your lady that you will be moving out!


1.) 18 Jul 2018 16:16:01
The two most dreaded words in the English language - Liverpool Medical!

2.) 18 Jul 2018 16:27:00
I'm getting Loic Remy flashbacks.

3.) 18 Jul 2018 16:27:17
Jurgen is a legend just gets better. He knows what’s required to challenge. Come on reds no excuses now.

4.) 18 Jul 2018 16:36:38
Hailstones remember. dibs😆.

5.) 18 Jul 2018 16:42:38
As hailstones originally offered his house and wife on my post I think it’s only fair I spend a week in it, (his wife I mean) 😉.

6.) 18 Jul 2018 17:24:25
1985mikey hats off to your comment👏👏.

7.) 18 Jul 2018 17:08:05
Not confirmed by club or the Ed’s so I would cool your engines.

8.) 18 Jul 2018 17:49:30
Turn on your telly bobby, about to jump on a plane to the Pool! No Ed confirmation needed. Now onto Nabil.

9.) 18 Jul 2018 17:49:57
I doubt there will be any problems from here on in. Medical and Bob is your uncle.

Like Ed002 said, not many clubs that are willing to agree on the fee we have for Alisson.

All roads lead to Anfield.

10.) 18 Jul 2018 17:52:35
Get a grip man only lfc know what's happening. Appears sky got this spot on.

11.) 18 Jul 2018 18:16:49
Can’t believe you went there Mikey haha.

12.) 18 Jul 2018 18:21:36
Hailstones I take it you have a pair of slippers rather than pack my own need the room in my bag for the gear your missus has requested, kinky girl.

13.) 18 Jul 2018 18:50:17
Hahahaha she is waiting at the front door with domanatrix gear on with the front door keys in her teeth lads, honest!

14.) 18 Jul 2018 18:53:16
I bet my house and bird we don't sign fekir! , good omen saying that haha.

15.) 18 Jul 2018 19:18:36
Lmao hailstones xD
Now the 2nd house and mistress is up for grabs? Damn haha.



18 Jul 2018 11:09:16
Just reading on t'internet that, according to Matteo De Santis who works for La Stampa, a fee has been agreed between Liverpool and Roma for Mr Becker - €65m + €10m in bonuses - so pretty much the figure Roma wanted.

Its being reported on the Echo (sorry! ) site in their live stream of the day's activities.


1.) 18 Jul 2018 11:22:26
SKY Sources in Italy: The €75m deal of Alisson Becker to #LFC is near completion. [DiMarzio].

2.) 18 Jul 2018 11:50:29
Melissa Reddy confirming it.

3.) 18 Jul 2018 12:36:13
Fee has been agreed lads! Wow.




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13 Mar 2019 14:26:37
One swallow does not a summer make - discuss.

For me I think ta a great phrase that is sadly underused these days - hats off to Wirral Wonder for using it yesterday.

According to my wife, it's never going to be summer 😢😂.


1.) 13 Mar 2019 16:44:50
“One swallow does not a summer make - discuss”

The above quote is an example of poor grammar.

2.) 13 Mar 2019 17:42:13
One swallow doesn't make a summer, but it makes a pretty good night ;)

3.) 13 Mar 2019 18:20:01
:P @ Ron.

4.) 13 Mar 2019 18:22:09
PS LiverpoolFC8, there's a gag about something that makes your night or makes your (w) hole weak/ week, but I'm pretty sure its more one unmoderated forums :D:D.

5.) 13 Mar 2019 19:29:41
Haha I think I've come across that Zed. Not literally. We need to go through tonight Reds! Cmon!



11 Mar 2019 23:45:14
Ok, I may get shot down here, but I'd like opinions on whether Modric could work for us for a couple of seasons or so?

I think it was Ed001 who was/ is a fan, and he's never really let the galactico tag get to him like it has with some others *cough* Welsh man bun boy *cough*.

Wouldn't cost the earth at 33, not sure about wages though. Could he be now what we all though Xabi could have been for us a couple of seasons ago? Ed001, if it was you who's a fan, would you think he would
Improve our team?


{Ed001's Note - I love Modric, but, for most of this season he has not been anywhere near the Modric of the World Cup. And during the World Cup he was playing against teams that were low tempo. Not for me, I think it is just too late for him to adjust back to the Prem. More's the pity. I would have loved Modric in a Liverpool shirt.}

1.) 12 Mar 2019 09:34:59
Modric is technically brilliant I think he could do a great job if used properly. He has been playing in a team that is all over the place at the moment and he is having to do everything himself.

If we get OX back fit next year and add Modric that would be more than enough in midfield for me.

Ed why did FDJ go for only £60m or so, he looks like he will be a superstar. I have a feeling if we wanted him he would have cost a lot more.

{Ed001's Note - seriously? A superstar? I have not watched him all that regularly but he never looked like a superstar. Looked a decent player but nothing more.}

2.) 12 Mar 2019 09:59:35
Maybe the 2 or 3 games were not a true reflection. When I watched him he was a cut above. Time will tell I suppose.

3.) 12 Mar 2019 10:49:11
Calling someone a superstar after 2 or 3 games lol. Bloody hell mate 🤔🙄.

4.) 12 Mar 2019 11:55:47
I really like frenkie de jong, he's a top talent but you're also paying for potential. He's a great Busquets replacement for Barcelona and 60m is about right in this mess of a transfer market. But he wouldn't fit our style of play anyway, plus we have Fabinho and Henderson.

5.) 12 Mar 2019 12:13:26
I get the fact that luca is old but his passing ability could be a real asset for us in certain games.

6.) 12 Mar 2019 16:47:38
He’s got great vision and is technically very good.
Definitely a place for him as a fringe player but I would think he wants to start games.

7.) 12 Mar 2019 19:59:49
If we lost Milner I’d take modric, he would still do a job against the bottom half, and some. Even if he is not his usual self, a summer off and not having to play as much he’s still got a lot to give and teach. Someone like Keita should look at him for a mentor. Is there anyone playing now that has what he has last season. Even if it’s not that level, it’s still a bloody good one.



11 Feb 2019 10:31:26
All of the Chelsea fans I've spoken to are very, very Sarri that they couldn't do more to help us yesterday.



1.) 11 Feb 2019 11:12:34
That's feeble, Zed. Usually you are far far better. 😝.

2.) 11 Feb 2019 11:29:34
I'm sorry, Ra!

I tried to think up a better pun on the way in this morning, but this was the best phrasing I could come up with! Must be tired!

3.) 11 Feb 2019 12:30:09
The biggest joke here was their inept performance. No doubt Chelsea fans will create a song about this as they claim it was to prevent us from winning the league.

4.) 11 Feb 2019 12:32:17
Must have missed that ArAy 😛.

5.) 11 Feb 2019 12:32:31
Zed, you should have said I'm Sarri, not I'm sorry. Missed opportunity there.

6.) 11 Feb 2019 12:43:43
I did type that Stone, but felt it was a step too far so changed it! :D

I do think the Chelsea massif should kick off the next home match with a bit of Elton John, if you know what I mean ;-)

7.) 11 Feb 2019 13:40:42
If I could hazard a guess that you are Sarri then we can assume Chelsea Kante play football.

8.) 11 Feb 2019 13:42:16
You're a bloody legend zed hahahaha!

9.) 11 Feb 2019 14:00:03
It appears that even when Chelsea try to play, they tend to Luiz.

Sarri is Barkley up the wrong tree.

Hopefully, for the sake of their supporters, Higauin.


10.) 11 Feb 2019 15:39:48
Okay, Zed, stop. Just stop. I'll even pay you. 😝

On a serious note. What's going on with the "Sarri Revolution"? There's been revolting alright, but very much the wrong kind.



10 Feb 2019 00:17:56
I was reading up on the 'Three Degrees' of West Brom, with the sad passing of Cyrille Regis recently, and then watched MOTD this evening.

Is today the most number of black players who have been on the pitch for us?

We started with 6 (VVD, Matip, Keita, Fab, Wiji, Mane) and ended with 7 (TAA for Wiji and Studge and Origi for Mané and Bobby)?

Interesting to see, only 1.5/ 2 generations since Regis, Cunningham and Batson we're trail blazers.

Next is the emerging Indian/ Asian talent coming through, I wonder if they will have as much impact in the next couple of generations?


{Ed0333's Note - wouldn’t that be something Zeddicus if the Asian/Middle East/Asian talent emerged soon what a healthy position football would be in? I’m so looking forward to seeing the next Asian Ronaldo, the next Indian Messi etc. Good post mate.

1.) 10 Feb 2019 01:22:27
I would love to see some of Asian players in Premier League too (apart from Japan and Korea), though if I'm not mistaken it will be quite difficult given the rankings of most of these countries for them to get work permits. I did notice there were quite a few great talents (potentials) from these lower ranking countries.

2.) 10 Feb 2019 00:41:59
Yep, totally agree 333 mate. I’m of Indian descent myself and can totally sympathise with the, certainly Indian if not Asian, complaint that parents would rather their children went into a profession than risk a sporting career. I once had an ambition that I would be the first Indian player for Liverpool, but i didn’t take into account that I’m crap at football 😂😂. Nope, it was definitely down to my parents 😂😂.

I see players like Chopra and now Choudray for Leicester and think there is hope yet. Along with players like Son for spurs and Kagwa previously of United and think there is SOOO much yet to come from the Asian continent.

Middle East is already emerging with players like Salah and Mido and Elneny but there’s half the worlds population in Asia, there must be some considerable footballing talent there.

{Ed0333's Note - I think asian parents wanting their kids getting a traditional proffesion rather than playing professional sports is seriously on the wane mate. Certainly most of my asian mates with kids I know would love their kids to be excel in the sporting world apart from one who wants his kid to run his supermarket empire. You mention chaduary and Chopra both of them are from mixed race parentage (is it ok to say that term now if not my apologies didn’t mean to be offensive don’t live in the UK and not abreast of what terminology is acceptable and what’s not) it’s needs a Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi or Sri Lankan kid to play in the premiership to break the barriers ala Moin Khan in cricket. Zesh Rehman springs to mind (lovely guy by the way) but he wasn’t exactly a household name. I remember growing up in the 80’s in west London and there was an Indian guy who used to play for Southall or Hayes and was around the same standard as Alan Devonshire (google) who was on the same team, the Indian kid didn’t go proffesional because his parents wouldn’t let him, coupled with the fact there was institutionalized racism in proffesional footbal in that era. Those days are fortunately a distant memory now. It beggars belief that with all the British Asians in the UK playing football none of them are good enough to play in the premiership. I sincerely hope this changes soon as can you imagine the shirt sales if a Premiership side had a player named Khan, Singh or Patel? I’d love us to have numerous academies in the Middle East, Far East etc to unearth a global superstar from those regions. I better stop now before I start putting people to sleep mate lol.

3.) 10 Feb 2019 09:46:44
The initial comment was something i’d noticed as well yesterday, when they all celebrated after scoring the first goal. I have also often wondered why China and India, two countries with a third of the worlds population between them, have never produced a player of real note. I know they are both reasonably new in terms of development, but China at least, i’d have thought, would have managed one euro star by now. There will be a Black Friday style brawl when that cash cow emerges, i reckon (look at Espanyol’s new signing’s interest over there) .

4.) 10 Feb 2019 08:07:13
I'm of Indian origin too. For me, the success of any country in football begins at the grassroots and the younger ages. And in countries like India, boys simply dream of cricket, even though things are evolving with 2 football leagues. However there is very little support from the government; it's all being supported by owners of leagues and teams. So until a massive push comes in from the government, not much will happen. But it's a curious thing, because even with grassroots development it's not always a guarantee that football will develop to the highest level. If you look at the USA, loads of money and effort have been spent on grassroots development and introducing the sport (the World Cups) since 30-40 years now, and it is still seen mostly as a sport for young kids and women.

{Ed0333's Note - don’t underestimate the effect of the Indian Super league and Indian premier league is having on the youth of India. Although you’re correct in saying it’s not being pushed by the government perse kids identify with celebrities such as salmon khan, Ranbir Kapoor and sachin tendulkar respectively. Also if memory serves me correctly athletico Madrid own a franchise also? Countless iconic football clubs from around the globe have set up academies in India Liverpool being one. Anyway nothing will displace cricket in India but there’s no doubt sometime in the near future football will make some huge inroads. The only thing stopping India producing talent Is having transparent administration. Corruption is rife and affluent people will just pay for their kids to be picked hence diluting the quality and some of the talented ones falling by the wayside.

5.) 10 Feb 2019 11:06:46
Mixed race isn't one that'll offend people like myself ed, it's half-cast that we tend to frown upon.

{Ed0333's Note - cheers mate. When I was growing up in 70’s and 80’s half caste wasn’t offensive and then did become offensive and replaced by mixed race. I left England years ago so wasn’t too sure. I appreciate feedback Thankyou. Out of interest what is the courteous way to describe someone of dual heritage?

6.) 10 Feb 2019 21:06:17
Mixed race would be my go to phrase these days. My kids are mixed race, and they’ll hopefully both represent Liverpool in years to come!



06 Feb 2019 22:52:00
Just to put a bit of context to the doom n gloom merchants (specifically, FranklyMrShankly has been particularly depressed! ) .

After GW 14 (02 Dec 18):

Man City leading on 38pts and +37 GD
Us second on 36pts and +22 GD

City had a 2 point lead after 14 games.

Roll forward to GW 20 (31 Dec 18):

Us leading on 54pts and +40 GD
City second on 47pts and +38 GD

We had a 7 point lead after 20 games

Roll forward to GW 24 (31 Jan 19)

Us leading on 61pts and +41 GD
City second on 56pts and +44 GD

Us leading by 5 pointsafter we only drew against the team that City lost to. Of course it went down to 3 at the weekend after West Ham.

The table as it stands today is irrelevant - we've played one game less.

What is evident is that this title season has ebbed and flowed.

I'd still rather be in our shoes than City's!

Of course the players are a bit nervous - they know that, due to injuries, we're at least 2 first teamers down, and it could be up to 4 first teamers down due to 2 other first teamers having to play in their not-ideal positions (namely Milner and Fab in defence on occasion) .

But if we start getting the nerves too - especially those of us fortunate to be at the matches - its going to filter down to the players. We need to turn Anfield back into the intimidating fortress, and ensure our travelling support out sings the home crowd. Klopp always talked of the 12th man, we need to BE that 12th man now if we want to play a part in ending 29 ridiculous years!

After the last few seasons, and last year especially, I really didn't think we'd be flying high at this stage with City looking all conquering. I'm pretty sure their supporters weren't giving up the ghost when they were 7pts down, so why should we when we are (technically) 3 points ahead?

By the way, in case you were wondering, after GW25 last year:

City were top, 68 pts
United were second, 53 pts
We were third, 50 pts.

There's some reason to be cheerful, surely?!


1.) 06 Feb 2019 23:12:52
Im with you Zu'l Zorander. Onwards and upwards with both fingers crossed behind me back.

2.) 06 Feb 2019 23:14:31
I agree Zed. The pressure is on Man City not us. They were the prohibitive favorite to win the league again this year. I'm not concerned in the least.

3.) 06 Feb 2019 23:28:17
While I appreciate your positive attitude Zed 5 games ago when we played City we could have moved 10 points clear, or atleast held our nerve and kept the gap at 7, instead most of the players bottled it.
Now after some very shaky performances we're level on points with momentum firmly with City.
While there's no shame finishing second to the most expensive squad ever assembled Peps ego will be intolerable.

4.) 06 Feb 2019 23:42:20
They had a wobble, now we're having a wobble, always a red.

Their wobble is (currently) worse than ours as they were 2 points ahead at the start of December and we are 3 points ahead now (not level, as they have played one more game) .

We have made up 5 points on City over the last 2.5 months - not bad going I'd say.

Of course if we lose or draw with Bournemouth, then we'd only have made up 2-3 points. But I'm pretty darn confident that we will win, and well.

So we will be 3 points ahead, having made up 5 points on City.

When City draw with Chelsea on Sunday, we will still be 2 points ahead, and back up to 5 when we beat United on the 24th.

Simple, really!

5.) 06 Feb 2019 23:47:33
Unfortunately we have got a few injuries 4 first teamers out and city have a bench second to none. That's where our problem is we haven't got players to come in and take charge of a game. The real difference is Gomez has gone for the rest of the season that where we are suffering at the moment. When city had ferndinho injured they lost 3 of the 4 they played. He is a vital player for them like Gomez is for us. But I would rather be in our position with a game in hand, onwards and upwards reds.

6.) 07 Feb 2019 00:10:56
Id personally prefer to be in cities position with less injuries and good performances. They are post slump while we are very much in the slump. One loss and they are too after all.

7.) 07 Feb 2019 00:26:08
It just goes to show that it’s very close and until all 38 games are played you just can’t call it.

Pep Guardiola agrees with me, it’ll go down to the wire.
As for the 12th man at Anfield, that hasn’t been the case in the league for many years. It is on European knockout nights but not often in the league.

Nerves are palpable every week, it’s usually like that, whether it’s nerves over playing Everton or ManU or nerves over finishing top 4.

You’re not going to roll back the clock to the days where the stadiums were full of relatively local, working class men screaming their heads off. The demographic has changed irrevocably.

8.) 07 Feb 2019 01:37:02
Ron, totally agree that the demographic has changed, but the fact we can do it on European nights means it CAN still be done!

We (and I accept that a large number of posters don't attend games) can try to make that change, at least for the remaining 13 league games.

9.) 07 Feb 2019 07:44:51
It’s really difficult to create the atmosphere at times. I sit 22 rows up behind the goal ( on the kop ) and for the so called big games, United, City etc, the stewards allow everyone to stand, against Bournemouth on Saturday, we will be told to sit down. The only part of the kop that continually stand are the top tiers and that’s where the songs start.

10.) 07 Feb 2019 08:33:44
Drogie is 100% correct, it is very difficult to create an atmosphere, especially in a tight league game.

11.) 07 Feb 2019 10:05:34
Ron, but we have to. We owe it to these boys and this team cos they cannot win this on their own.

12.) 07 Feb 2019 10:47:20
Ok RW, you only have about another 25000 people to convince 👍.

13.) 07 Feb 2019 11:13:44
City post slump? Maybe. But I’m pretty sure they just lost to Newcastle recently. Yes, they beat Everton and Arsenal but they weren’t commanding performances that the media had made it out to be. Both teams have defensive issues and self-destructed in a sense that allowed City to capitalise, while City still look vulnerable when being pressed and attacked. There’s still 1/3 of the season left so let’s enjoy the ride.




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18 Mar 2019 23:19:41
The way I read the story is that we’re interested in this young player, his buyout clause is £85m or some such number, therefore we are prepared to break the record.

Can anyone else see the leap the ‘journalists’ have made? 😉😂.




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16 Mar 2019 23:11:54
Firminosteeth is just a poor parody of Alan’s Barnet! 😂😂.




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21 Feb 2019 21:22:55
Thuram or not Thuram, that is the question 🧐.




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13 Feb 2019 12:55:26
"Rumour has it" - Lemar back on the cards?


{Ed025's Note - "if theres any justice in the world" he will be zed.. :)



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11 Feb 2019 19:08:18
£83m, over 4 years?!?!?!?!

For Arron Ramsey?!?!?!






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18 Mar 2019 13:25:41
Nice question WW!

I'm a little younger than you, so my legends list is a little shorter!

However, I completely agree with everyone on your list from The King onwards.

I WOULD include Brucie, I don't think he was on the take, and I can't remember a bigger character at Liverpool in all of my time supporting them.

I would also include Reina and Dudek. No, I'm not just a frustrated ex-goalie! Pepe was the best goalie in the league for a good 5 years or more, and also had his eccentricities.

The Dude? Eell just for that one game! And he's very cool!

I would put Rob Jones on the list - absolute Rolls Royce of a player and injury cut short his career so cruelly.

Finally, and for no other reason that he just looked mean and enforced himself on the pitch, I would have Steve McMahon.




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17 Mar 2019 12:07:25
Body on the Floor (Pump it)?

Body Hurts?

Time I wee, it burns?




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15 Mar 2019 16:42:25
But could Juncker and Barnier be the new Laurel and Hardy?




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14 Mar 2019 09:52:35
Totally agree with Adam. That was as clear a yellow card as you could see.




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14 Mar 2019 09:45:42
Why the Farke have Nowrich extended his deal?!?!

Sorry, couldn't let that one slide :D.