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Where from: Darn Sarth

Favourite player: Steven Gerrard

Best team moment: 1) Instanbul 2005
2) Cardiff 2006
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5) All of the 2013-14 season!


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31 Aug 2016 23:43:52
I believe the o.


1.) 01 Sep 2016 00:01:05
Thanks Eds, lol!

2.) 01 Sep 2016 00:08:52
I've seen the light.

I now believe the L, not the o.

Think about it.

3.) 01 Sep 2016 15:59:13
Am I the only one thinking "huh? "

4.) 01 Sep 2016 17:15:40
Long story!

5.) 01 Sep 2016 18:01:30
We have a while Zeddicus, take it away.

6.) 01 Sep 2016 19:05:34
What is this o you speak of I'd like t know more about it.

7.) 01 Sep 2016 20:43:10

8.) 01 Sep 2016 20:46:10
So there are two explanations for this.

1) I was replying to another thread, got bored of my own reply (! ) and went to press 'close' but pressed reply instead. So I immediately posted to the same thread again explaining what had happened and asking the eds to delete my reply. As this was around the time of the window closing, and the eds were just coming to the end of 127 hour shifts, I think they thought it would be funny to post my aborted reply as a rumour instead. Or;

2) In an alternative reality lives an almighty Oracle named 'O'. He reigns supreme and knows everything about everything, and he's also a part time rodeo clown. His knowledge, however, is only absolute as long as he is believed by all. Even just one doubter dents his power and makes his knowledge imperfect. Therefore, we are all required to pay homage and state fealty to the great 'O' on a weekly basis. However, to complicate matters, 'O's immediate superior is 'L' (or 'Likely Source of All Rumours' to give him his full name) . So believing in 'L' means you automatically believe in 'O' too. Essentially, swearing fealty to 'L' is a labour saving option as 'O' still gets reflected glory.

Up to you which one you choose to believe 😀😀.

9.) 01 Sep 2016 23:11:57
Haha I'm going for the 2nd option. But I'm not paying state fealty.

10.) 02 Sep 2016 08:59:48
It's the 2nd the eds wouldn't be so cruel! Believe in the L!

11.) 02 Sep 2016 15:15:19
I thought he believed Walcott or something.

12.) 04 Sep 2016 06:05:36
Great rumour anyway.
Seen the banter pages guys?



28 Aug 2016 08:17:55
BBC Sport are saying that Fuchs is refusing to sign a new deal at Leicester so is on our radar.

Seems odd as he's 30 and we balked at an extra £2m for Chillwell, but has anyone heard anything about this, ideally from a less odious source?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool to Leicester nor am I aware of Leicester making any new contract offer to a player who only joined them last season, nor him refusing suich an offer as they prepare for a Champions League campaign.}

1.) 28 Aug 2016 08:58:48
Thanks for clearing that up Ed002, seemed an odd rumour. Especially as it's being reported that he only has a year left on a deal he signed last season, seems slit toe short.

{Ed002's Note - His contract rund to June 2018.}

2.) 28 Aug 2016 11:16:59
Zedd it's from the bbc gossip column, where they just round up various stories from rags. The one in question happens to be from the S*n so as ed002 think it's unlikely.

3.) 28 Aug 2016 11:32:25
Oncearad, yep, knew it was from the rag and that was in my original post but got edited given the name I called the rag!



27 Jul 2016 13:42:52
Not sure if this is Liverpool related any more, but I was excited to hear rumours some time back that Ruben Neves was linked with Liverpool.

Eds, does this remain the case, and are any other clubs interested in him for this window?




{Ed002's Note - Porto's Ruben Neves is subject to sustained interest from Chelsea, passing interest from Manchester City, PSG, Real Madrid and another English side (not LFC). Porto has no interest in selling unless a very significant offer is made - and the asking price might well scare most clubs away.}

1.) 27 Jul 2016 14:24:04
Thanks Ed. Shame as he is great on Championship Manager, lol!


2.) 27 Jul 2016 14:58:06
Porto are known for getting huge fee's for players. Look at Hulk and Witsel, 80million euros was reported for the the pair HA!



18 Jan 2016 00:09:04
I see the Mirror are now covering their arses over their 'Shane Long to Liverpool" non-story by saying that Saints have turned down the £8m offer!

So they sold a few more Sunday papers by breaking it, and are now burying the equivalent of a retraction on Monday!

You got to laugh!


1.) 18 Jan 2016 03:11:49
Tabloid bullsh*t unfortunately sells papers.

The scary thing for me is that there's a general understanding of how the back pages are made up tripe yet so much belief and legitimacy is placed on the other side for so many people.

It scares me.

{Ed002's Note - It should not scare you - go to the library and educate yourself.}

2.) 18 Jan 2016 03:18:38
I'm not concerned about me. My fear lies with a large portion of the brainwashed, propaganda eating public.

That's what scares me.

3.) 18 Jan 2016 08:37:19

When you read a journalist writing such headlines in newspapers etc, about a player being the subject of a offer from another club, and representative are involved etc etc, or the player is trying to get out of his own club by forcing a move. And it is 100% fabricated which seem 9 out of 10 are. is that not bordering on slander, deformation of character or being purposely disruptive?

And if so are the players / club in a position to sue?

You hear of other people who are in the media (away from football) a lot pressing over certain claims and stories that came out and were completely untrue, but never footballers etc

Does the same media circus exist in the states in the NFL, basket ball, baseball etc?

Or are the press more careful over there in fear of a law suit being filed over them?


{Ed002's Note - Firstly journalists do not write headlines. Secondly there is a big difference between slander/defamation and a story about a transfer that is not correct. Nobody is concerned about being sued.}

4.) 18 Jan 2016 10:08:43
Plus they just say "from a source" to cover their own arses.

5.) 18 Jan 2016 22:09:03
I'm not entirely sure if there'd truly be any legal basis and it'd likely be very hard to prove but a club could claim tortious interference if an transfer story incited a player to go on strike? However, the club would need to prove that the story is bogus and there's no interest from the reported club/ buyer. Honestly though it wouldn't be worth the hassle.



13 Nov 2015 02:54:12
Hi Eds,

I know the source is the Daily Express (! ), however they have linked us to Timo Horn.

Reason I am posting is that it does seem credible, given the continuing concerns around Migs, and he is apparently available for a buy out clause of €10/£6-£7m.

Have you heard anything about him being a target either in Jan or summer, and does his buy out clause apply to an English club?

Have been hearing about this guy for a couple of years now and wondering why he hasn't been snapped up already?




{Ed002's Note - (a) I am not aware of Liverpool looking at or talking to Cologne about Timo Horn. I will however say the club has looked at one goalkeeper as I have explained so it is not out of the question. (b) There will not be a "buy out" clause at all. There may be a release clause, I don't know - but it is of no relevance to Liverpool. (c) I am not sure what you mean about being "snapped up already". There was previously a thought that Horn was of interest to Rodgers, so perhaps that is simply being recycled. The player signed a new contract earlier this year and has said he would like to stay with Cologne for his entire career. Volker Struth has said nothing about any interest from Liverpool.}

1.) 13 Nov 2015 11:41:20
Thanks Ed002. The snapped up comment was on the basis that he seems to be generally highly regarded so. wondering why he hadn't been picked up by a larger club that Cologne to date. As you say, maybe he's happy staying where he is.

2.) 13 Nov 2015 13:08:29
Hi Ed. Really sorry that I have overlooked it but what keeper have we looked at please?

{Ed002's Note - Rui Patricio is being looked at again by Liverpool.}

3.) 13 Nov 2015 13:40:16
Cheers ed

He looks vert decent based on the clips I've just seen. Is he viable for a move in the summer?

{Ed002's Note - The summer is a long way off and clubs are looking at lots of different players throughout the season.}




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15 Jan 2017 14:52:19
National has been withdrawn from our squad?!? What?!?

Seems to imply (per BBC Sport) that's it's to do with ACON dispute!

I thought there was no case to answer there.

Do you have any insight into this Eds?

Thanks 🙂


{Ed002's Note - No - the club should have clarified the situation with FIFA.}

1.) 15 Jan 2017 16:30:17
Thanks Ed, interesting that autocomplete makes National of Matip!

It does beggar belief that a commercial enterprise of such a size wouldn't have clarified this with FIFA. Let's hope it doesn't haunt us for this match.

2.) 16 Jan 2017 08:11:00
Ed 002. As it is being reported, the club have not had any response from the Cameroon federation. I'm unsure as to how much time was available to resolve this. Perhaps the issue is that we didn't anticipate that the paperwork would not be completed.
Given the backdrop of the club vs. Country disagreement brewing over the WC expansion I can see FIFA using this issue to remind clubs of their power. Hope I'm not being paranoid.

{Ed002's Note - The onus is on the player's club (the secretary) to inform the country's FA and FIFA that he is retiring from the International game or injured and not available for selection. It, and Liverpool in general, has nothing whatsoever to do with the expansion of the World Cup.}



19 Dec 2016 12:51:31
Hi guys, How is Danny Ward getting on at Huddersfield? I know he started well, but I'm sure Carra posted up that he's been looking a bit shaky lately (apologies if it was someone else! ) .

From people who have seen him play, is he in the conversation to be 1 or 2 for us, or is he not at that level?


1.) 19 Dec 2016 13:26:00
Hi Zeddicus,

I've been commentating on Town at home games this season and have been posting Danny Ward updates after matches.

To answer your question, I'd say that his form has dipped and peaked with Huddersfield's really. Whilst he hasn't got the best of clean sheet ratios, he's been generally solid if you ask me, bar the odd blip! He does lack that experience and consistency, but that will come with more game time of course.

For me he's not at a level to be our No1 but he's a good No2 option.

For me selling Mignolet and using Ward as Karius' backup would be the best option!

His shot stopping has at times been excellent - he's looked most vulnerable when left exposed by Town's back four - he's not the best sweeper keeper, so to speak!

His kicking isn't the best but not the worst either, whilst he is commanding of his area for crosses if you ask me.

I will post more about him as the season goes on - I think it would be best to judge him when he's gained as much experience as possible!

Hope that answers your question Zeddicus!

2.) 19 Dec 2016 13:31:17
Thanks very much for that Reid. I do think that 2 No 1s doesn't really work well, doesn't really give the confidence to either keeper. Most recently, we had the Kirkland/ Dudek rivalry which unfortunately was answered through Kirkland's injuries.

I think Karius with Ward as backup sounds decent, if Danny is indeed happy to be a LT No 2, a modern day Mike Hooper!

3.) 19 Dec 2016 13:55:27
Spot on, Reid. I think Ward has been solid overall, but not much more than that. Karius will get his opportunities to prove himself as Klopp thinks he`s the future and his issues are to me, adaptation issues relating to a new league and it`s physical and mental demands. Migs is not the answer and never was because if that was the case, Karius wouldn`t be here. A Karius/ Ward combo as 1 and 2, wouldn`t be a bad shout. As for those calling for a top class GK, those like Navas, DDG, Oblak, Lloris, are all taken and NO, Joe Hart is pants. Therefore, you create your own and Klopp will do that with Karius.



18 Dec 2016 17:35:30
The last 5 mins in the 4pm kick offs have been annoying! 2 draws would be perfect!


1.) 18 Dec 2016 17:42:40
Just got to take care of our own business tomorrow night 😎.

2.) 18 Dec 2016 17:42:40
Just got to take care of our own business tomorrow night 😎.

3.) 18 Dec 2016 17:51:38
Arsenal loosing means we must win tomorrow.

4.) 18 Dec 2016 19:08:14
We had to win anyway. arsenal losing doesn't change a thing.

5.) 18 Dec 2016 19:26:34
We must win regardless!

6.) 18 Dec 2016 23:39:57
Klopp goes for the win every time so no news there.



12 Dec 2016 19:09:04
Hendo vs Stevie.

One for Eds and reds both, but I would love to hear Ed001's view on this.

Does Hendo have the potential to be in the same class of a player as Stevie?

Stevie, for all of his flaws, was Roy of the Rovers, and was almost singlehandedly responsible for me keeping the faith that we would win major trophies for over 10 years. I have been a massive Stevie fanboy. You just felt, when he got hold of the ball, something would happen.

I'm ignoring the off field stuff, and concentrating on the 90-120 minutes at a time that I saw him play.

For a long time it looked as though Henod would pale in comparison, but I see a confidence in him now that is bordering on Stevie.

They play different roles - Stevie at his pomp was all about attack, Hendo has been asked to sit back and protect - but I see similarities in being able to thread a pass, and the odd worldie goal (like it should have been on Sunday, and was against Chelsea) .

Should we not be comparing them, or can we have two consecutive captain fantastics?

From my personal view, as fantastic as I think Hendo is, he's not *quite* there, doesn't *quite* have the aura.

What are other views?


{Ed001's Note - no, I love Hendo, but he is never going to reach the level of Gerrard in his prime.}

1.) 12 Dec 2016 19:17:04
Thanks Ed001, is there a current player who could reach that Stevie level? Pipco, Bobby? Woodburn (long shot, but you could see the kernels of stardom pretty early on in Stevie's career, and Ben has at least got a first team goal under his belt early doors! )

{Ed001's Note - Firmino and possibly one of the kids could. TAA depending on where he plays, possibly Woodburn, quite a few of the kids have the potential, it is the drive that is the issue. Gerrard was not the best at younger ages, he became the best by hard work.}

2.) 12 Dec 2016 19:19:28
The coach or the team made a mistake in dropping into a deeper position and buying Wijnaldum. He should be dictating the game high up the pitch all you needed was a top holding player by his side. There was a time when he was the best B2B midfielder in the league and thanks to someone he will probably end up as another Dier.
I am not happy watching him playing deep.

3.) 12 Dec 2016 19:23:55
SG will always be better than Hendo as his talent and natural ability was immense. Hendo is a different type of player, a CM who is quite versatile and has the tactical awareness, positional sense and defensive nous SG lacked. Hendo would have been great under a coach like Rafa who believed in tactical structure more than the more swash-buckling style SG was known for. Look what he did with Xabi, who was talented yes wnen he arrived, but became a monster under Rafa. To me, they should be judged based on what each brings to the team as one has what the other lacks and vice- versa.

4.) 12 Dec 2016 19:30:43
Good point, HR. They dovetailed together beautifully in 2013/ 14, ironically with Hendo as the further forward one, typically.

Ed001, what other positions can TAA play? Is it across the defence, or into midfield?

Always remember Stevie started life as a RB!

{Ed001's Note - TAA was a midfielder who was shifted to RB. He can pretty much play anywhere to be honest. As for Gerrard, he just got a few appearances in defence due to gaps in the squad, rather than ever being a defender. In those younger days he would play anywhere for the club, but he was always seen as a midfielder.}

5.) 12 Dec 2016 19:45:03
Thanks Ed001, my point about Stevie was facetious given he got his debut at RB in place of Heggem! I think he's played in every single outfield position at one point or another in his career, if I'm not mistaken?

Does he fancy being Karius's understudy in goal?! Joke!

6.) 12 Dec 2016 21:47:21
Ed, you think the lack of drive in youngsters comes from them thinking they've 'made it' before they really have due to high wages so early in their career?

Thank you for all your hard work!

{Ed001's Note - yes, that is why the club want to put a cap on wages for youngsters.}

7.) 12 Dec 2016 21:47:27
Stevie was/ is a one off.

In his prime he could have signed for any club in Europe.

I wonder what goes through his head sitting in the stands at Anfield.

I also like the way he has handled himself mediawise since his return from the states.

He often said if he wasn't a player he'd be a fan like the rest.

He's as good as his word.

8.) 12 Dec 2016 21:56:17
Ed, for a wage cap on youngsters to be successful surely all clubs would have to sign up to it? Or else we risk agents getting in the ears of youngsters to try and find a better deal elsewhere.

{Ed001's Note - yes, that is what is being worked towards.}

9.) 12 Dec 2016 22:04:08
Toon, I was so pleased to see the article about the club capping wages. We're not the only club to do so either. The youngsters need to be hungry for further success, not making a fortune in their teens. Money will come later, but they need to prove themselves.



06 Dec 2016 07:39:15
Would Fonte be worth it for £5m, as reported by a Portuguese newspaper via BBC Sport?

I know Ed001 said he was too old at 31, but at £5m or so, wouldn't that work for a couple of seasons?


{Ed001's Note - he is 33 in a few days mate.}

1.) 06 Dec 2016 07:51:52
Very good defender. Makes his partners look much better Than they are. See Lovren and Van Dijk for evidence!

However at his age, and lack of pace I think he might struggle with a high line. Definitely the sort of mentality we need at the back. Just not sure he is the right player. At £5m it could be worth the risk. I think Lucas, Lovren and Klavan are struggling due to not having the pace for a high line though. So it is unlikely Fonte would have anymore luck!

2.) 06 Dec 2016 08:06:48
Fair enough, thanks for replies!

As Adam said, its just that he seems to bring out the best in his partners, especially given we have Lovren in the team.

My thoughts are that he could be worth it as a backup to the Matip/ Lovren partnership for the next season or two.

{Ed001's Note - two years younger and I would agree, he is an excellent player, but now he just seems to be looking for a big payday. The Euros seem to have gone to his head, to be honest. I would avoid.}

3.) 06 Dec 2016 08:12:46
Very very good player and one we should have bought actually 4 years ago. Calm, Composed and very matured Centre back. He is more like Carra to me. A captain and a leader. Him and Matip would be brilliant.

4.) 06 Dec 2016 08:14:46
I know this is not going to be popular at all here, but instead of looking far and wide, I think (and hope) Klopp will relook the Sakho situation. I get it that he's a strict disciplinarian and knows what he wants and what he doesn't want. One look at the bench against Bournemouth (Woodburn, Ejaria, Alexander) told me already that he was sending messages to the rest of the youngsters about what is needed to make it to the first team. We were all howling during the summer about how he was flooding the midfield with unnecessary players and yet there's no sign of Grujic, Brannagan, Chirivella - confirmed first-teamers according to the club website. He decided to put academy listed players on the bench. Fine. I don't think it's an ego thing with Klopp at all. He's clearly teaching Sakho a lesson. And I totaly agree that discipline is absolutely necessary with these kids (I'm almost 56 so anybody younger than 30 is still a kid to me, LOL) .

But maybe a re-assessment is required? Sakho is a regular discipline problem both now and in his previous team. But the man is also committed to this team, and there's no question about his dedication and efforts on the field. I guess every manager wants smooth sailing with his team, in terms of discipline and order. Can Mr. Klopp put up with some turbulence, in the name of solving a (serious) problem area? I don't agree that Lovren is a lost cause as many have argued. Maybe he just a bad game - I haven't forgotten the good games he has had. But maybe things would have been different if Klopp had looked at the bench and seen Sakho waiting there (instead of Klavan), when Lucas and Lovren were having problems in the second half? These are all open questions - not necessarily what I am proposing to be done.

{Ed001's Note - if he was a dedicate team player, Klopp would have forgiven mate. The problem is that he is far from that.}

5.) 06 Dec 2016 08:15:14
. He's quality and life spans in football aren't over even at 35, look at barry bazza, giggsy. Defenders aswel when partnered well can go on for a fair bit. Its the attackers that suffer more players like mane whose pace will go.

6.) 06 Dec 2016 08:22:26
Okay Ed001. It's just a shame and a pity. Waste of a good player.

{Ed001's Note - it is, but he only has himself to blame. He would be central to PSG's plans if he had a better attitude. The problem is that he lacks maturity, he needs to grow up.}

7.) 06 Dec 2016 09:08:21
I think eventually we will end up in our academy Southampton for a defender 😎.

8.) 06 Dec 2016 09:15:38
I'd rather want someone in their mid 20's, get a good 5 (or hopefully more) years out of them, 33 is towards the end, then we're in the same boat in a couple of years. We need 1 more solid defender, Carra like defender, we have Matip, we get someone to play alongside him (who's good) and we're laughing. Our defense could be complete come next season, I think Trent will end up taking Clynes place, but who knows when that'll be, he keeps impressing like he already has done it's just a matter of time. I don't know how the LB situation will end up, if it was upto me Milner would be there constantly for the rest of his career but it's not upto me, he's pure quality there.

Sakho would've been perfect alongside Matip but due to his stupidity he's knackered himself up and I really don't want to see him in a Liverpool shirt again, it's a shame, he can be excellent, but we don't want players like that at our club. He doesn't deserve to a player here. Something that does worry me though is who is going to take him off our hands? - Hopefully we get rid come Jan, waste of wages, waste of time.

9.) 06 Dec 2016 09:46:21
LFC16 - I don't think getting rid of Sakho will be a really big obstacle. There are certainly teams out there that can use his football skills and be willing to put up with his attitudes. That's for them to decide. We'll probably have to lose money on him, and I think LFC are prepared to do that now while they were not ready last summer. That's how it goes with players with discipline problems. Let's not forget Balotelli. Not only did we sell him below his value, but we bought him way below his market value, at the time, too.

10.) 06 Dec 2016 10:21:35
We will have to scout someone who plays in a high line defense and without an out and DM ahead. Or we will end up in trouble.

11.) 06 Dec 2016 10:43:21
The lad Gibson at Middlesborough has impressed me. Left footed too, would be a nice balance with Matip.

12.) 06 Dec 2016 14:10:32
Gibson would be my pick. Much better than the media darling Van Dyke who without Fonte, would be terrible.

13.) 06 Dec 2016 16:32:20
Virgil van Dijk would be an excellent partner for Matip IMO. He has concentration issues, but I would think playing alongside Matip and working for Klopp can eradicate those issues. He has everything physically and has the premier league experience to along, and if Matip and van Dijk and LFC's centre backs, the days of us getting bullied or falling apart under pressure would be long gone.

14.) 06 Dec 2016 17:51:38
Lovren has concentration issues too just like Van Dyke, something that contributed to our loss vs Bournmouth so why get a CB who is just as prone to the same issues as the one we are trying to replace? That simply makes no sense, especially for the fee we would be paying and frankly, I`m sick of signing Saints players. Might as well purchase the club as a whole. Sheesh!




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15 Jan 2017 13:07:52
Mikey, as I pushed it a couple of days ago (to a bit of ridicule) I'm quite happy to wait for my royalty cheque from the Mirror, lol!




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14 Jan 2017 14:56:20
I'm a southerner too and I refer back to Ed025's comment.

Also, just like Beetlejuice, if you write their name 3 times then a tosser called Kelvin appears.

That rag is more worthless than the dirt on the bottom of the piece of rubbish stuck to my shoe.



{Ed025's Note - its banned from a lot of shops here in liverpool zed and well it should be, how anyone who loves football never mind liverpool can stand to read that rag is beyond me mate..



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13 Jan 2017 13:57:36
BBC Sport Gossip reporting the interest is from Chelsea. However their source is the S*n.




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11 Jan 2017 14:52:37
If he can get in aged 40+, there's hope for me yet! Let me stub out this tab and head to the gym!




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11 Jan 2017 14:52:06
Harry, Can joined in summer 2014, so he's been here 2.5 years.

I hardly think he is stuck between Henderson and Wijnaldum as he has been for all of his time here, not least because Gini only joined 6 months ago.

During his 2.5 years he has been used as a CB, a RB and a midfielder or various guises.

I do agree with most that some players get more chances than others, but let's not forget that a) the manager sees the players in training much more than we do, and also that Klopp has been here just over a year. Suso, for example, departed until Rodgers.

So far, not much of what Klopp has done regarding player recruitment has been strange or unexpected, with the exception of Caluker, but at least that was only a half season loan.

Given that Can is only 22, I still have hope that the gaffer sees something in him. If he doesn't, well I'm sure he'll be found another home in time.

Lets stick to the facts, eh? Rather than make them up to suit a PoV?





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17 Jan 2017 18:17:02
Can we all club together to raise money for a plane ticket to Ohio for Harry? I'm sure Hamilton will appreciate the company, lol!




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17 Jan 2017 14:41:55
Liverpoolfc16, I think the Harry comment was referring to Ed001 meeting up with his "best mate", 😂




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16 Jan 2017 21:49:37
If all of our sticky patches resulted in being joint second with 17 games to go (10 at home) we would've won the league a few times in the last few seasons.

Good review Richie 🙂




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16 Jan 2017 21:46:33
Got to agree with Harry AGAIN!

Sterling work, Daredman.


Hope to see Wilson soon given the reports.




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15 Jan 2017 18:42:43
Completely agree. I've been one of his biggest detractors, but credit where it's due. He had a very good game today