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31 Aug 2016 23:43:52
I believe the o.


1.) 01 Sep 2016 00:01:05
Thanks Eds, lol!

2.) 01 Sep 2016 00:08:52
I've seen the light.

I now believe the L, not the o.

Think about it.

3.) 01 Sep 2016 15:59:13
Am I the only one thinking "huh? "

4.) 01 Sep 2016 17:15:40
Long story!

5.) 01 Sep 2016 18:01:30
We have a while Zeddicus, take it away.

6.) 01 Sep 2016 19:05:34
What is this o you speak of I'd like t know more about it.

7.) 01 Sep 2016 20:43:10

8.) 01 Sep 2016 20:46:10
So there are two explanations for this.

1) I was replying to another thread, got bored of my own reply (! ) and went to press 'close' but pressed reply instead. So I immediately posted to the same thread again explaining what had happened and asking the eds to delete my reply. As this was around the time of the window closing, and the eds were just coming to the end of 127 hour shifts, I think they thought it would be funny to post my aborted reply as a rumour instead. Or;

2) In an alternative reality lives an almighty Oracle named 'O'. He reigns supreme and knows everything about everything, and he's also a part time rodeo clown. His knowledge, however, is only absolute as long as he is believed by all. Even just one doubter dents his power and makes his knowledge imperfect. Therefore, we are all required to pay homage and state fealty to the great 'O' on a weekly basis. However, to complicate matters, 'O's immediate superior is 'L' (or 'Likely Source of All Rumours' to give him his full name) . So believing in 'L' means you automatically believe in 'O' too. Essentially, swearing fealty to 'L' is a labour saving option as 'O' still gets reflected glory.

Up to you which one you choose to believe 😀😀.

9.) 01 Sep 2016 23:11:57
Haha I'm going for the 2nd option. But I'm not paying state fealty.

10.) 02 Sep 2016 08:59:48
It's the 2nd the eds wouldn't be so cruel! Believe in the L!

11.) 02 Sep 2016 15:15:19
I thought he believed Walcott or something.

12.) 04 Sep 2016 06:05:36
Great rumour anyway.
Seen the banter pages guys?



28 Aug 2016 08:17:55
BBC Sport are saying that Fuchs is refusing to sign a new deal at Leicester so is on our radar.

Seems odd as he's 30 and we balked at an extra £2m for Chillwell, but has anyone heard anything about this, ideally from a less odious source?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool to Leicester nor am I aware of Leicester making any new contract offer to a player who only joined them last season, nor him refusing suich an offer as they prepare for a Champions League campaign.}

1.) 28 Aug 2016 08:58:48
Thanks for clearing that up Ed002, seemed an odd rumour. Especially as it's being reported that he only has a year left on a deal he signed last season, seems slit toe short.

{Ed002's Note - His contract rund to June 2018.}

2.) 28 Aug 2016 11:16:59
Zedd it's from the bbc gossip column, where they just round up various stories from rags. The one in question happens to be from the S*n so as ed002 think it's unlikely.

3.) 28 Aug 2016 11:32:25
Oncearad, yep, knew it was from the rag and that was in my original post but got edited given the name I called the rag!



27 Jul 2016 13:42:52
Not sure if this is Liverpool related any more, but I was excited to hear rumours some time back that Ruben Neves was linked with Liverpool.

Eds, does this remain the case, and are any other clubs interested in him for this window?




{Ed002's Note - Porto's Ruben Neves is subject to sustained interest from Chelsea, passing interest from Manchester City, PSG, Real Madrid and another English side (not LFC). Porto has no interest in selling unless a very significant offer is made - and the asking price might well scare most clubs away.}

1.) 27 Jul 2016 14:24:04
Thanks Ed. Shame as he is great on Championship Manager, lol!


2.) 27 Jul 2016 14:58:06
Porto are known for getting huge fee's for players. Look at Hulk and Witsel, 80million euros was reported for the the pair HA!



18 Jan 2016 00:09:04
I see the Mirror are now covering their arses over their 'Shane Long to Liverpool" non-story by saying that Saints have turned down the £8m offer!

So they sold a few more Sunday papers by breaking it, and are now burying the equivalent of a retraction on Monday!

You got to laugh!


1.) 18 Jan 2016 03:11:49
Tabloid bullsh*t unfortunately sells papers.

The scary thing for me is that there's a general understanding of how the back pages are made up tripe yet so much belief and legitimacy is placed on the other side for so many people.

It scares me.

{Ed002's Note - It should not scare you - go to the library and educate yourself.}

2.) 18 Jan 2016 03:18:38
I'm not concerned about me. My fear lies with a large portion of the brainwashed, propaganda eating public.

That's what scares me.

3.) 18 Jan 2016 08:37:19

When you read a journalist writing such headlines in newspapers etc, about a player being the subject of a offer from another club, and representative are involved etc etc, or the player is trying to get out of his own club by forcing a move. And it is 100% fabricated which seem 9 out of 10 are. is that not bordering on slander, deformation of character or being purposely disruptive?

And if so are the players / club in a position to sue?

You hear of other people who are in the media (away from football) a lot pressing over certain claims and stories that came out and were completely untrue, but never footballers etc

Does the same media circus exist in the states in the NFL, basket ball, baseball etc?

Or are the press more careful over there in fear of a law suit being filed over them?


{Ed002's Note - Firstly journalists do not write headlines. Secondly there is a big difference between slander/defamation and a story about a transfer that is not correct. Nobody is concerned about being sued.}

4.) 18 Jan 2016 10:08:43
Plus they just say "from a source" to cover their own arses.

5.) 18 Jan 2016 22:09:03
I'm not entirely sure if there'd truly be any legal basis and it'd likely be very hard to prove but a club could claim tortious interference if an transfer story incited a player to go on strike? However, the club would need to prove that the story is bogus and there's no interest from the reported club/ buyer. Honestly though it wouldn't be worth the hassle.



13 Nov 2015 02:54:12
Hi Eds,

I know the source is the Daily Express (! ), however they have linked us to Timo Horn.

Reason I am posting is that it does seem credible, given the continuing concerns around Migs, and he is apparently available for a buy out clause of €10/£6-£7m.

Have you heard anything about him being a target either in Jan or summer, and does his buy out clause apply to an English club?

Have been hearing about this guy for a couple of years now and wondering why he hasn't been snapped up already?




{Ed002's Note - (a) I am not aware of Liverpool looking at or talking to Cologne about Timo Horn. I will however say the club has looked at one goalkeeper as I have explained so it is not out of the question. (b) There will not be a "buy out" clause at all. There may be a release clause, I don't know - but it is of no relevance to Liverpool. (c) I am not sure what you mean about being "snapped up already". There was previously a thought that Horn was of interest to Rodgers, so perhaps that is simply being recycled. The player signed a new contract earlier this year and has said he would like to stay with Cologne for his entire career. Volker Struth has said nothing about any interest from Liverpool.}

1.) 13 Nov 2015 11:41:20
Thanks Ed002. The snapped up comment was on the basis that he seems to be generally highly regarded so. wondering why he hadn't been picked up by a larger club that Cologne to date. As you say, maybe he's happy staying where he is.

2.) 13 Nov 2015 13:08:29
Hi Ed. Really sorry that I have overlooked it but what keeper have we looked at please?

{Ed002's Note - Rui Patricio is being looked at again by Liverpool.}

3.) 13 Nov 2015 13:40:16
Cheers ed

He looks vert decent based on the clips I've just seen. Is he viable for a move in the summer?

{Ed002's Note - The summer is a long way off and clubs are looking at lots of different players throughout the season.}




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13 Apr 2017 15:59:26
Simple question:

Butland, Pickford or neither?



1.) 13 Apr 2017 16:25:11
I noticed robles of everton is not on that list zeddicus, I wonder why!

2.) 13 Apr 2017 16:43:44
Neither. One is not good enough and the other has not played in a year.

3.) 13 Apr 2017 16:55:33
Out of premiership keepers who may be available I'd take Begovic. He's too good to stay on Chelseas bench another year (but then, he knew that's where he'd probably be when he moved there)

4.) 13 Apr 2017 17:26:31
Why has karius not been given time to settle can noone remember seeing dea gea first season he was garbage now look at him i would rather give him time he's young and everyone righting him off he wasn't rated the 2nd best keeper in Germany behind neur for a no reason.

5.) 13 Apr 2017 17:27:16
Interesting that most people are currently going for neither!

I agree on Begovic, Bandit, as that would still give Karius a chance to develop and learn. Recruiting Butland or Pickford (similarly young keepers) would mean the writings on the wall for Mings and Karius.

6.) 13 Apr 2017 17:41:41
Butland over Pickford by a mile.

7.) 13 Apr 2017 18:37:43
Karius has not played much in the last year.
Difference between Karius and de Gea's first season is De Gea had decent coaching. Karius hasn't.

8.) 13 Apr 2017 18:51:30
Its really funny how every time a young gk fails his fans call him as the next ddg, for starters james ddg was considered heir apparent to casillas and considered better than likes of reina when we signed him, did you or anyone here really know about karius before you signed him, when one talks about young german keepers people say leno, ter stegen, trapp i have not read many people calling karius being very highly rated. And he was not rated 2nd best gk in bundesliga, he was 3rd and that too joint 3rd with horn, 2nd was leno.

9.) 13 Apr 2017 19:05:51
Begovic is a great shout, experienced reliable and would help bring on Karius.

10.) 13 Apr 2017 19:08:46
Buying any keeper means the writing is on the wall for Karius. He is not going to want to sit on the bench.

11.) 13 Apr 2017 19:46:42
Common he got dropped because the fans turned on him to protect him the keeper has talent what worldwide keeper do you know who would actually be available? Why throw more money at another keeper when we need strength elsewhere dea gea might have had better coaching staff but why get rid of the keeper? Shouldn't it be the coaching staff to get the boot. Where we are useless is at set peices and have for years since sami left if we cleaned that up we would the best team in the league and that might be me been delusional but our forward play is magnificent and as we have proven against the top teams this season if you want to go toe to toe we will destroy you.

12.) 13 Apr 2017 19:40:51
Difference between DE Gea and Karius is that one's much better than other.

13.) 13 Apr 2017 20:13:12
Being a billion harsh on De gea Putney.

14.) 13 Apr 2017 20:25:09
Butland is Joe Hart lite. Shaky on crosses, poor kicking and no organisational skills.

Pickford at least is a very good shot stopper, makes good decisions when coming for crosses and kicks superbly. Even if he also is useless at organising his defence.

Really don't know how Butland got to be so highly rated.

15.) 13 Apr 2017 20:42:51
jamesy, klopp seems to rate Achterberg.
I said from day 1 Karius has a lot of improvement to make if he wants to succeed in the premier league. LFC is not the club to learn how to keep goal because our coaches are not good enough. Butland is already more than capable of being a number 1 in the premier league. He doesn't need to be improved by our coaches. Karius does.
I'm not having a go at Karius, he was never ready to start in the premier league and he was thrown in at the deep end under prepared.

16.) 14 Apr 2017 03:12:57
Karius over them.

17.) 14 Apr 2017 04:10:50
Begovic is old news so people should stp mentioning him as the guy has been burning a hole on Chelsea's bench for two years so how will he be better than Karius who has been playing in the German League for three years straight? You don't gett better by not playing, end of.

Ron, How will we know if Karius is the guy if he doesn't play? Or do you think 10 games is enough to judge a GK now?

You say Butland doesn't need coaching? What nonsense. EVERY player needs coaching REGARDLESS of how long they've been playing. Butland hasn't played for a year while Karius has been playing, training and learning all through that time so how will Butland (injured for the past year/ 18 months) be better? Still not making sense, bro.

Is Achtenburg the best GK coach around? I don't think so. But to say Butland should step in cos he doesn't need coaching is laughable. Karius is talented and Klopp will not give up on him until he proves that he can't hack it and ten games where he committed 2/ 3 mistakes proves ABSOLUTELY nothing.

18.) 14 Apr 2017 06:32:18
"He doesn't need coaching" is what YOU said
"He doesn't need to be improved by our coaches" is what I said. There is a difference.

You think Karius is ready? Well Klopp disagrees with you on a weekly basis.

19.) 14 Apr 2017 08:49:22
I consider myself a bit of a goalkeeping geek if you like and id say sometimes you just know someones not suited and sometimes they clearly take more time to grow into their position, you shouldn't be learning your trade at a big club and that's a fact, we don't have points to waste in training school, Friedel for example looked a far superior keeper when in his late 30's to just over 40 i think it was but in his younger days in the top division looked awful, we obviously don't have that level of patience lol but at a high profile club do you say right that was a mistake and move on by signing someone new or give the time to a man to develop? Its a high pressure business nowadays and Im not sure many are given loads of time anymore, managers jobs are on the line everyday and they don't get given the grace of a lot of points dropped.
Karius is young, but he's not 18, he should know his job by now and I don't take with the premier league being different argument or the De Gea thing as he was a one off in my book, my own opinion and I know ED02 has told us he's Klopps number one is that Karius will end up leaving us if we reach the champions league, or at best be number two to someone else with Migs leaving, but we will see, I take nobodies thoughts and info as gospel anymore, I just wait and see what gives with this club lol
Have a good weekend folks! YNWA.

20.) 14 Apr 2017 09:31:32
Good post Ritchie 👍.

21.) 14 Apr 2017 14:25:09
I would stick with Karius. Which GK would look good and play with confidence behind OUR defence? I use the word defence very loosely. Matip needs a stronger partner, Clyne offers very little protection and although Milner has done a sterling job, he's no LB. Defensive cover from midfield is scarce to say the least most games, especially now Hendo seems to struggle for any lengths of fitness. We need to address these issues before we can really assess our Karius.

22.) 15 Apr 2017 19:04:24
Ritchie if you were such a GK geek, you would know that for a young GK to thrive, you have to have a good defence around him to protect him while he learns the ropes. Do you see that happening here as of now? NO! I'm no GK geek. I actually played the GK position a bit and if you are as exposed as Karius was vs Bmouth, you would concede too. Every young GK will struggle but you have to help him and not hang him out to dry then blame him for all our defensive ills. That makes no sense.



13 Apr 2017 12:40:45
Question for the Eds re our loaned players this season (I guess Ed001 or Ed002 as they are likely to be most ITK regarding the club's current thoughts? ) .

Of our crop of 'older' loanees (i. e. >21 and who would otherwise be around the first team rather than youth teams), are any expected to be integrated back into the fold next year, or are they shop window?

I'm thinking that:

Sakho - definitely leaving

Ward - probably either back on loan or on the bench as No2 depending on what happens with other keepers.

Wisdom - likely gone if a buyer can be found.

Flanno - sadly likely gone too : (

Markovic - not sure on Lazar. Given the way we struggled without Mané, is he a possibility for re-integration or do he or the club want to part ways?

I think that's all of the older loanees covered?




{Ed001's Note - as things stand, Ward is the only one that looks to have any chance of a future at Liverpool. Even his chances are merely slim.}

1.) 13 Apr 2017 15:33:23
Thanks Ed001.

I really feel for Flanno, and did see enough sparks in Lazar for the one season he was with us (albeit he was very young) to be hopeful.

In terms of reasons why for those two in particular, is it that the club would prefer them to move on, or the player or both?

{Ed001's Note - club in Flannos case both for Markovic.}

2.) 13 Apr 2017 17:27:58
Thank you!



13 Apr 2017 12:54:27
Very sad (but not overly surprised! ) not to see a single male Liverpool player on the PFA shortlists for POTY or YPOTY. Thought Couts might just have snuck in, but his time out and form dip didn't help.

Good luck to Caroline Weir for the female prizes as she's on both lists.


1.) 13 Apr 2017 13:05:07
Thought there pretty much wouldn't be a team in the league which wouldn't have loved to have mane this season! Is blatter involved? Lol.

2.) 13 Apr 2017 13:32:53
Wow! Can't believe I forgot Mané! Yep, agree with you there, he was more of a shoe-in that Couts, you would've thought!

3.) 13 Apr 2017 13:57:24
Don't care really. Couts was in the running for PFA Young Player of the Year last season, one where we finished 8th. If we get CL footie and no LFC player is short-listed then, I'll be okay with that.

4.) 13 Apr 2017 14:15:04
It's a team game. 🤠.

5.) 13 Apr 2017 16:50:55
Exactly, Ron. That is Klopp's mantra, as well and it is working for us, atm.



24 Feb 2017 16:54:16
A question for the Eds, in response to some of the GK bashing going on below and Harry's point that we haven't prioritised GKs in the past few windows.

Have we tried and missed out on any GK targets in the last 5 years, to your knowledge? I'm picking the last 5 years as its at least that long ago that Reina started going off the boil. Until the end of Rafa's tenure, at least, I would've pick Reina over pretty much any other GK in the league for several seasons.

Or am I reading too much into this and its really the coach who is the problem?


{Ed001's Note - we tried to get a few before settling for Mignolet. Begovic springs to mind, but he was not willing to leave Stoke at that time due to setting up a Stoke based charitable foundation at the time. Mignolet was almost a last resort signing to be honest.}

1.) 24 Feb 2017 17:19:25
Thanks Ed001, did we also try for Cech or was that an infamous smokescreen?

Would Begovic be interested in coming to us now, or is he another who now wants to stay in London?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any attempt for Cech. Begovic might be interested, but not sure he would be someone we should try for now.}

2.) 24 Feb 2017 18:13:43
The Begovic ship sailed a long time ago as he is no better than he was when we wanted him in 2013. As for Migs being a last resort, he has played like one as he was at the bottom of the list for a reason.

3.) 24 Feb 2017 18:58:16
I'd rather Begovic than Hart.

4.) 24 Feb 2017 20:45:48
Adrien from WHU would be a worth taking punt.

5.) 24 Feb 2017 21:05:02
Should have gone for Pickford last summer.

2 seasons ago I tipped him as a future star and I am just an armchair football fan. He was so noticeably going to be a top player. It is truly astonishing not one top Premier League team had the foresight to bring him in. Perhaps it was because he wasn't exotic enough? Hope he comes back stronger from his injury. He has the potential to be the best English player in this generation.

6.) 24 Feb 2017 22:34:55
Surely you're jokin?
Arguably the only keeper worse than Migs in the league!

7.) 25 Feb 2017 08:53:57
I rate Butland and Tim Krul.

8.) 25 Feb 2017 11:18:34
Good to see people actually realising the importance of a solid backline and GK along with attackers.

9.) 25 Feb 2017 11:48:26
I wonder if Butland is an option?

Is the general consensus that Karius has the potential, in which case maybe we go after an older keeper who can pass on knowledge as well as doing the job (Begovic? ) or do we buy younger a la Butland or Pickford, for example?

10.) 25 Feb 2017 12:18:41
Butland is too flappy for me. Really not an upgrade on what we have.

I reckon Karius, Ward and Manninger will be the 3 keepers next season anyway. We have committed to Karius now; or at least Klopp has. We have to get used to that I guess. With support and some good coaching, Karius could be great.

There is the problem though. We don't have a good goal keeping coach.

11.) 25 Feb 2017 13:07:24
I've not seen enough of Butland before his injury to comment on him reliably, but if he comes back next season and is as good as everyone says, I'd like us to go for him end of next season if Karius doesn't improve.

12.) 25 Feb 2017 19:06:29
Spot on, MK. BTW, Is it too much to ask that we support the GK Klopp has entrusted with the position before talking about who may replace him if he screws up?



18 Feb 2017 13:58:48
Hi Eds,

I have read .....




{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages, this is the Liverpool page.}

1.) 19 Feb 2017 11:24:02
Sorry Ed002, I didn't ask that very well!




{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Liverpool - Liverpool has made no approach for the player now or in the past. Why are you so obsessed with him? Try the European pages.}




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28 Mar 2017 17:33:14
Its a shame, but often players don't recover from such horrible injuries, or at least if they do it takes several years and most clubs are not that patient.

I really wanted him to work out as he was that scouse spine, and I will always remember his goal against Spuds!




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28 Mar 2017 17:31:33
Square Tomato's your man for details on Joe Gomez as he's a mate. A terrible injury as Ron said, and still very young for a CB at 19. Hopefully more opportunities for him next season.




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15 Mar 2017 18:05:27
There seems to be an injury jinx on decent RBs at Liverpool, with their careers being blighted by injury. First Rob Jones, now Flanno who, of course, didn't get the chance to reach the heights of RJ due to 2 years + lost to injury.

I just hope TAA gets a bit of luck as he is showing great promise.

And I of course wish Flanno all the best. I hope he gets his chance and is able to get back to the form that forced him into our side in the first place.




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15 Mar 2017 11:13:20
I would've thought that Phillip Max was more likely as he's a LB, however there is also a Maximilian Philip who plays as a midfielder for Freiberg! Both of them are 23, so who knows which one our interest lies in, if either! Maximilian is the chap that Drigan is referring to as he is a contemporary, both in terms of age and position, to Timo Werner.

I wonder if the transfer committee got it wrong all those years ago, and we were actually, for example, after Poulsen Christian, an amazing attacking midfielder, rather than Christian Poulsen, an amazing donkey?! Who knows!




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15 Mar 2017 11:13:20
I would've thought that Phillip Max was more likely as he's a LB, however there is also a Maximilian Philip who plays as a midfielder for Freiberg! Both of them are 23, so who knows which one our interest lies in, if either! Maximilian is the chap that Drigan is referring to as he is a contemporary, both in terms of age and position, to Timo Werner.

I wonder if the transfer committee got it wrong all those years ago, and we were actually, for example, after Poulsen Christian, an amazing attacking midfielder, rather than Christian Poulsen, an amazing donkey?! Who knows!





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29 Apr 2017 18:46:15
I'd prefer Tony Yeboah, he'd give us options on the bench 😂.




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28 Apr 2017 09:13:40
Did a bit of analysis in a post a couple of days ago that with a draw, both city and united could catch us - city with one more point than our potential 78 points, and United on tge same points, so it will come down to goal difference between us and united for 4th place.

If united win, both teams can pass us, albeit we will be on gD with city.

If City had won, it could still be in our hands as we would have higher potential points then united.

Hence, big preference for city win, less so for draw, and defe didn't want United win, not least as I hate Maureen!




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27 Apr 2017 20:06:01
1) city win

17) draw

193) united win.




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25 Apr 2017 13:14:55
BTW, don't discount Arsenal, who could still get to 78 too, albeit at the expense of Utd as they play each other. We could do with Spurs sorting them out when they play in a few weeks!




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25 Apr 2017 13:12:38
Yep, spot on, hence I want a City win, rather than a draw.