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01 Aug 2018 00:05:47
Barca apparently also interested in Migs for around £12.5m according to Sly.

To replace Cillessen, who's heading out.

Besiktas still also interested.

Will be enlightening to see if Migs wants game time or bench trophies.


1.) 01 Aug 2018 01:57:53
Why does it have to be those options? I think its sad how we try to analyze athletes decisions these days.

2.) 01 Aug 2018 06:15:37
No one else seems to be in for Mignolet as a first choice. So I guess if he's going to No 2 somewhere, Barcelona is probably not a bad place to go - almost certain trophies, nice place to live, being reunited with ex-Liverpool teammates :-), etc.

3.) 01 Aug 2018 06:33:14
He will also get game time at Barcelona, he will play all the Copa Del Rey games and maybe even the champions league games. And as you say more than likely win trophies and live in a fantastic city. He won’t even make our bench next season so let’s just be happy for the guy and hope the move happens.

4.) 01 Aug 2018 07:16:12
Zed, not a huge fan of what you're implying there. Going to Barcelona, even as a back up, is a big deal and something to be proud of.

5.) 01 Aug 2018 07:24:38
I completely get where axed is coming from here guys. Word is that Migs wants out of lfc due to not being no1 - so how would going to Barcelona solve that?

And Putney it’s says a lot of a career highlight would be barely playing (if at all) for Barca.

He’s good enough to play for a mid table/ just below prem team. He’ll get good wages and actually play.

6.) 01 Aug 2018 07:34:13
Agreed 87.

7.) 01 Aug 2018 08:36:00
Just to clarify, Barcelona are a great team, but as 87 said, if Karius leaves, which I suspect he will, then Migs would be swapping our bench for Barca’s. Doesn’t make much sense.

He is good enough for other teams, especially more defensive ones, so if his complaint is lack of playing time, surely you’d expect to see him join one of those, either here or overseas, rather than warming Barca’s bench and getting the odd run out.

8.) 01 Aug 2018 08:37:30
Amazing how no one has mentioned money. Maybe he will get a big signing on fee and whopping weekly wages guaranteed for four or five years.

This could set him up for life to live in one of the most fantastic cities in the world. Doesn’t sound that bad to me. And maybe he’s happy to be second fiddle to achieve this.

Good luck to him - wish I had that type of luck!

9.) 01 Aug 2018 08:52:46
If he was going to a standard team to sit on the bench i would question it, but it IS Barcelona, not many people get the chance to play for them, so i wouldn't criticise him for going there.

10.) 01 Aug 2018 09:05:45
I think you’re all missing the point. It’s up to Mignolet where he chooses to go. If he decides to go to Barcelona that’s up to him and all you’re doing is second guessing his reasons why. He’ll have his own reason for going to the team he does (if he does leave), there’s no way we can know for sure what they are.

11.) 01 Aug 2018 09:08:19
I’m not criticising him if he goes to Barca. Just pointing out it’s contrary to his apparent unhappiness of being a bench player.

12.) 01 Aug 2018 09:28:07
I'm with 87Red here, also not criticising, but does appear odd if his aim is 1st team starts.

13.) 01 Aug 2018 13:26:55
I think ya'll are playing a bit to much couch psychologist. If you have a chance to go to Barca, then go. It's ok to change your mind when you have new information.

14.) 01 Aug 2018 14:07:55
Have to say, the abuse and lack of respect reserved for our keepers is the one thing that has made me uncomfortable about being a Liverpool supporter over the last few years.

The (Kop lead) jeering and ironic cheers that could be heard in Anfield when both Karius and Migs were struggling was nothing short of shameful. I hope to God that Alisson doesn't start off poorly for us because the pressure we put our own keepers under will only end up one way.

I wish Migs all the best wherever he goes. Like every other Red who wore the jersey with honesty and sincerity, I hope he only gets better and regains the form that made us buy him in the first place.

15.) 01 Aug 2018 17:27:08
If I was Mignolet I’d go to Barca. Might not play as much, but medals make up for that. Plus with the political situation in Turkey it’s hardly the safest place in the world.

16.) 01 Aug 2018 22:29:58
Dudek did the same at Madrid. Had a decent career for them playing second fiddle. No shame in it imho.

17.) 02 Aug 2018 10:00:27
The other thing you have to remember is that there’s the chance of playing alongside some of the best players in the world and in Messi one of the greatest players to have graced the game, who would not want an opportunity for that. Also maybe the Barcelona fans might not give him grief constantly and with a different goalkeeping coach he may actually improve. Most Liverpool fans don’t want him at the club then bitch and moan when it looks like a move may happen. Best of luck to him I say.



25 Jul 2018 09:19:54
Sheyi Ojo is linked with moves to either Nottingham Forest or Reading, according to The Echo. Forest apparently interested in a £10m purchase, Reading interested in a loan.

The source of the story (Googling it and looking for the oldest news article) seems to be The S*n so not sure on accuracy. For obvious reasons, I didn't click through to the original story.

Chiravella also appears to be linked with Forest, although The Echo says they are unlikely to move now they have Colback on loan again for the season.

Both of them are 21, both have been highly thought of, and both are of an age where they should be getting starts in the first team (at least for cup games) if they have a longer term future at the club.

I wonder if other, younger, players have overtaken them in the pecking order and therefore a move (even permanent) is probably best for their careers?


1.) 25 Jul 2018 09:53:53
Yeah Chirivella in particular is never realistically gong to break into the team, so may as well get him a good move and a few bob for our troubles. I like Ojo as a player and think he's got potential but needs to find consistency and won't get the game time at Liverpool. Really now with Shaqiri there is little room for Ojo, especially considering we've got Camacho and Adekanye coming through and of course Wilson out on loan. I'd take 10 million pounds for Ojo in a heartbeat. Pity I don't own him, though.

2.) 25 Jul 2018 12:16:02
I’d snap their hands off for 10m.

3.) 25 Jul 2018 12:43:22
Annoying when you start reading a story and halfway through you see that rag is the original source.

I just instantly stop reading it and couldn't be bothered what the rest says.

4.) 25 Jul 2018 14:13:20
Agreed Irish I once saw a homeless man sitting on a copy of the sun, I immediately took it off him and binned it! Before I replaced it with the daily mirror.

5.) 25 Jul 2018 14:34:15
To be fair, Irish, I did try to reference it as soon as possible!



18 Jul 2018 16:06:51
Sky Italia (reported via Sky Sports) now saying the whole deal has been agreed with Alisson and Roma, including transfer fee/ payments, and a 5 year contract with Alisson.

He is due to fly to Liverpool in the next day or so for a medical which is the last O/ S thing.

Watch out for ACL twitches ;-)

Hailstones, this is going to happen, I suggest you tell your lady that you will be moving out!


1.) 18 Jul 2018 16:16:01
The two most dreaded words in the English language - Liverpool Medical!

2.) 18 Jul 2018 16:27:00
I'm getting Loic Remy flashbacks.

3.) 18 Jul 2018 16:27:17
Jurgen is a legend just gets better. He knows what’s required to challenge. Come on reds no excuses now.

4.) 18 Jul 2018 16:36:38
Hailstones remember. dibs😆.

5.) 18 Jul 2018 16:42:38
As hailstones originally offered his house and wife on my post I think it’s only fair I spend a week in it, (his wife I mean) 😉.

6.) 18 Jul 2018 17:24:25
1985mikey hats off to your comment👏👏.

7.) 18 Jul 2018 17:08:05
Not confirmed by club or the Ed’s so I would cool your engines.

8.) 18 Jul 2018 17:49:30
Turn on your telly bobby, about to jump on a plane to the Pool! No Ed confirmation needed. Now onto Nabil.

9.) 18 Jul 2018 17:49:57
I doubt there will be any problems from here on in. Medical and Bob is your uncle.

Like Ed002 said, not many clubs that are willing to agree on the fee we have for Alisson.

All roads lead to Anfield.

10.) 18 Jul 2018 17:52:35
Get a grip man only lfc know what's happening. Appears sky got this spot on.

11.) 18 Jul 2018 18:16:49
Can’t believe you went there Mikey haha.

12.) 18 Jul 2018 18:21:36
Hailstones I take it you have a pair of slippers rather than pack my own need the room in my bag for the gear your missus has requested, kinky girl.

13.) 18 Jul 2018 18:50:17
Hahahaha she is waiting at the front door with domanatrix gear on with the front door keys in her teeth lads, honest!

14.) 18 Jul 2018 18:53:16
I bet my house and bird we don't sign fekir! , good omen saying that haha.

15.) 18 Jul 2018 19:18:36
Lmao hailstones xD
Now the 2nd house and mistress is up for grabs? Damn haha.



18 Jul 2018 11:09:16
Just reading on t'internet that, according to Matteo De Santis who works for La Stampa, a fee has been agreed between Liverpool and Roma for Mr Becker - €65m + €10m in bonuses - so pretty much the figure Roma wanted.

Its being reported on the Echo (sorry! ) site in their live stream of the day's activities.


1.) 18 Jul 2018 11:22:26
SKY Sources in Italy: The €75m deal of Alisson Becker to #LFC is near completion. [DiMarzio].

2.) 18 Jul 2018 11:50:29
Melissa Reddy confirming it.

3.) 18 Jul 2018 12:36:13
Fee has been agreed lads! Wow.



08 Jun 2018 17:56:41
Jon Flanagan, alongside Emre Can, confirmed as leaving this summer upon expiry of his contract.

On the one hand a shame, I remember having high hopes for the Scouse Cafu following is wonder goal!

On the other hand, what a seemingly horrible human being.

Nevertheless, thanks for the memories Jon and good luck.


1.) 08 Jun 2018 18:23:05
Just what went wrong with Flanagan? Few seasons ago he was dynamite. Gets an injury and never seen again.

2.) 08 Jun 2018 18:49:01
He beat a girl and was found guilty. Should have terminated his contract that very moment.

3.) 08 Jun 2018 19:01:33
That was a recent thing - he disappeared off the radar well before the incident.

4.) 08 Jun 2018 19:19:40
Injuries mainly, Salah. And less attacking than Klopp likes in his full backs. Plus the criminal thing more recently.

5.) 08 Jun 2018 19:25:12
Exactly my thoughts too Harry.

6.) 08 Jun 2018 20:32:52
He was lucky to come into the team when things got better, so he got all the hype. never was good enough. Hard work was the only thing he had, and that can only get you so far.




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06 Oct 2018 18:22:14
Cmon Rafa!


1.) 06 Oct 2018 18:37:09
Totally torn feelings.

Would love José to stay for years and years.

But what win out is the love of Utd losing.

Can’t break the habit of a lifetime 😂😂😂.

2.) 06 Oct 2018 18:59:52
I agree Zed. I hope he's there through December at least.

3.) 06 Oct 2018 19:29:33

I think?!? 🤷‍♂️.

4.) 06 Oct 2018 19:55:52
It's just a stay of execution Zed.

5.) 07 Oct 2018 14:02:52
Are we really still interested what happens to Maureen? He used to call himself 'The Special One"! I have always called him the Special Oen which translates from the Dutch as special airhead!



03 Sep 2018 13:57:17
Congrats to Andy Robertson, Scotland's new captain!

Very well deserved, and the extra responsibility can only help his development.


1.) 03 Sep 2018 14:14:43
Yup, congrats to Robbo, hope he can lead us to a tournament!

2.) 03 Sep 2018 15:03:43

3.) 03 Sep 2018 16:09:00
A real 100%’er. Gives his all in every game and continues to improve 👏.

4.) 03 Sep 2018 17:56:58
Good lad is Robbo, very happy for him.

5.) 04 Sep 2018 11:51:52
It's just a shame that he occupies a position where you could argue that Scotland have their two best players.

He's quickly becoming one of my very favourite in the squad; gives absolutely everything, never shirks and provides actual quality.

Plus, he comes across as such a nice guy. The whole Firmino shirt (because no one wants the left backs shirt) was absolutely brilliant.

Top man.

6.) 04 Sep 2018 18:40:59
And Andy Robbo, am quite liking the new song.

7.) 05 Sep 2018 13:33:38
From getting relegated with Hull to becoming our first choice left back, playing in a Champions League final and now the Scottish national team captain.

What a year it's been for Robbo, long may his development and improvement continue!



01 Aug 2018 09:55:16
Want to kick off a bit of a debate about our GK options.

If the rumours in the press are to be believed, both Migs and Karius could depart.

If that happened, would you be happy to have Gabara and Kelleher as our No2 and No3 keepers? Also rumours about a 20yo man mountain from Barnet - Kai McKenzie-Lyle - who's been on trial with us. 6'7" and a couple of Ghana caps, but he's only 20 and has come from non-league.

If a more experienced backup to Alisson, who would you go for?

My personal view? Its a toughie, but on balance, I would be fine with Gabara and Kelleher. Yes its a risk, albeit a much smaller one that with a key outfield position, and we have all bemoaned how, for example, Ward never got the chance. So let's see if the 'kids' can step up!


1.) 01 Aug 2018 10:06:48
by all accounts not a bad prospect
and lol he is from Guyana in the West Indies
Think he has played a couple of under 23 games for us already.

2.) 01 Aug 2018 10:08:33
I would like to see an experienced keeper come in. Could also help in the coaching and advice to the 2 young guys.

3.) 01 Aug 2018 10:20:18
Good question Z think experience is essential but who is a good question mate.

4.) 01 Aug 2018 10:20:42
Need another decent keeper imo, not saying these kids aren't decent, but most clubs have someone else there more experiences to push, or at least be there in case anything (knock on wood) happens to Alisson. I'm hoping both Mignolet and Karius are moved on.

5.) 01 Aug 2018 10:57:12
Difficult one isn't it mate. My heart tells me to keep with the two youngsters but my heads telling me buy a more experienced number two.

6.) 01 Aug 2018 11:04:54
I hope we go for someone old and experienced (I know he’s not available but a Reina type player) and lock them in for a years contract in the twilight of their career. We can then send the Kelleher on loan in the championship and Grabara can lead the u23s and step up as our no.3 if required.

That would give both Kelleher and Grabara lots of playing time to develop further, with probably Kelleher being perfectly placed to step up as a no.2 next season with some professional competitive football under his belt.

7.) 01 Aug 2018 11:06:25
Bah, only around 150 ranking places separate Ghana and Guyana!

*covers face*

Looks like, on balance, most of you are swinging more towards an experienced backup.

If we go down that route, I reckon it'll probably be a lesser known player.

However, on that I looked at before, purely down to his distribution, was Kiko Casilla.

Why would he go from No 2 at RM to No 2 at Liverpool? Well, if Courtois comes in and Navas stays, he'll be No 3.


8.) 01 Aug 2018 11:25:01
I would have liked to see Reina, Patrício or Handanovic.

9.) 01 Aug 2018 11:33:29
SGRed, of those 3, I only see Reina being remotely happy with being 2nd choice.

10.) 01 Aug 2018 13:20:28
I think we need to bring in experienced first team keepers in. This ain't FIFA, grabbara and kelleher aren't gone have their OVR go up a point every couple months bt just sitting on the bench.

11.) 01 Aug 2018 12:41:51
The way we get on players backs I think it would be a bad move to use the kids as back up. I’d like to see karius kept on as no. 2.

12.) 01 Aug 2018 12:42:23
I think an older experienced head should come in, now that someone might not necessarily provide any help to Allison in terms of technique ect but they could prvoide help with regards to the mental aspect of the game and they'd be invaluable to the likes of Grabara.

13.) 01 Aug 2018 13:53:24
If they’re good enough they’re old enough - look at Donnaruma.

However, I’m not sure they’re good enough to replace Alisson. Need an experienced head.

14.) 01 Aug 2018 13:59:34
It may seem a bit left field and probably completely unrealistic as I am sure he is going to play pretty much every game this season. But I would love to have Scott Carson back as our number 2 should Migs and Karius leave.

Should Alisson get injured, relying on those two young lads is very risky and could potentially destroy their careers with us before they ever get properly started if things go badly!

15.) 01 Aug 2018 14:26:53
Left a comment on the other thread but I've never seen the lad on trial with us playing because he didn't get many minutes over the past two seasons. But whenever I see him warm up he gets down to low balls REALLY slowly. Like slow-motion slowly. Not sure what, if anything, to read into that but you don't see many keepers warming up letting half the balls put into a particular area go past them.

Also while he's technically from non-League, he's really from League 2 - Barnet were relegated last season so he's never actually played in the conference.

16.) 01 Aug 2018 16:10:45
2014–Barnet games 1

2016-Cockfosters (loan) games 4

2017 St Ives Town (loan) games 3

2017–2018 Hayes and Yeading United
This is his playing record according to wiki so may not be totally accurate.

17.) 01 Aug 2018 16:20:22
Too soon for both Grabara and Kelleher, aside from perhaps a couple of cup games, if absolutely required.

The mindset at LFC has changed drastically in the last couple of seasons. From "possible winners", management has adopted a "win at all costs (literally) " attitude which is probably the right way to go. See the improved contracts being handed out and the world record purchases being made. So with this in mind, you can't have inexeperienced backup GKs. Otherwise, the lessons received since Reina left have not been learnt. As simple as that.

I think Karius will stay.

18.) 01 Aug 2018 17:04:39
Lol Guyana is in South America. It's true, it borders Venezuela, Suriname and Brazil. I know because I watched a thing on Jonestown. My god, poor folks. Horrific but very interesting.

Anyway, I digress. We need a decent backup. The young guns may step up and surprise us all, if they are ever called upon, but I don't like the odds of a crunch game in the league or champions league with what amounts to an amateur in goal. I say amateur because having no professional experience means that they are amateurs. If they are deemed good enough for future first team opportunities then they are of an age where there is time for them to be patient. Right now the club has invested extremely heavily, clearly with short term goals in mind, leading to long term benefits. Those efforts won't be undermined or jeopardised by putting kids in goal for important games.



24 jul 2018 13:09:30
warning to eds and regular posters.

schools have just broken up.

just sayin'



1.) 24 Jul 2018 13:56:26
What you going to do with your 6 weeks zed? ;p.

2.) 24 Jul 2018 14:43:56
I'm currently at a holiday club, computer activities this afternoon!

I wish mummy would come and get me soon tho, as some of the older kids are picking on me : (.

3.) 24 Jul 2018 17:19:35
Is that because Zeddicus rhymes with Karius? Must be the gilfnards LFC kindergarten mummy has left you in.



20 Jul 2018 09:48:35
Random ex-youth player question for Ed001.

Saw that in answer to a question re Nat Phillips you said you weren't as up on the current youth prospects as you have been a few seasons ago.

One player that I had very high hopes for in the mid-noughties was Neil Mellor. I was 'hanging around' the LFC. tv forums at that time and hadn't discovered this great site!

Was he really expected to succeed with us at every step of his youth career? I remember hearing of him banging in 40-50 goals for the rezzies when he was still a teenager and I totally thought he would be the heir-apparent to Gd and Judas!

What was the story there, I'd be fascinated to hear it, if you get a minute.




{Ed001's Note - he simply wasn't that good, ressies were his level. He lacked pace, spent far too much time out whoring with a certain Mr Wayne Rooney, drank too much, didn't train hard enough and was not the player everyone hoped for.}

1.) 20 Jul 2018 10:17:25
Ah, that's a shame. Sounds like he would've thrived in the pre-premier league or even pre-Wenger football culture!

Such a shame to waste a talent.

2.) 20 Jul 2018 10:29:50
Still a legend for momemt reason alone.

"Mellor, lovely cushioned header, for Gerrarrrrrrrrd! OHHH YA BEATYYYYYY! WHAT A HIT SON. WHAT. A. HIT. "

3.) 20 Jul 2018 12:01:34
Ill forever remember Mellor for a 35 yd dipping half-volley in the last seconds of a cup match against Arsenal.




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07 Nov 2018 08:05:34
If this does happen, and I really hope it does as Dembele is a great prospect and one that Klopp appears to want to work with, I presume it would be a loan with an option to buy? If so, I can see a "Dembele + £50m" type deal for Salah in the summer.

Much as I want to believe he wants to stay, I just get a niggly feeling he is going to move. I just hope he can smash it and get us the EPL this season as a parting gift (if he does go) .




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29 Aug 2018 23:24:00
Be great to win there as defending champions 😉.




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10 Aug 2018 18:18:31
Mayo is not eggsactly what I look for in an ice cream flavour, Ron 😉🤢.




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09 Aug 2018 10:03:13
Nope, still can’t work out ‘mayo ice’?!





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01 Aug 2018 09:57:43
I think you'll get the thumbs down for "dead wood" more so than for throwing Lallana into the mix!

We should have a bit of respect here, boys.





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19 Nov 2018 09:34:05
Queen: Run the country, Wayne

Wayne: OK, Your Maj

Several weeks later

Queen (on phone) : Wayne, where are you?!?!?

Wayne: I've only got as far as Edinburgh and my legs are tired. Can I stop now?




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19 Nov 2018 07:56:05
Thanks for that Tris!

It would be a fascinating subject for a dissertation or other study to see which sport has had most success breeding politicians?

You've mentioned the footballers, but we've also got Pacquiao and Klitchko in boxing, Seb Coe from Athletics (even Jeffrey Archer, albeit only one appearance for GB, apparently) .

It makes sense, as the same mental fortitude required to become an elite athlete would no doubt come in handy when trying to deal with the machinations of political life.?


{Ed001's Note - possibly. I would have thought it would be more likely to be anything other than football in the UK, though that would change elsewhere. Purely because your average British footballer lacks a decent education, though, particularly in Eastern Europe, footballers elsewhere tend to have a better level of education. 'Proper' football men are not, as a rule, all that bright.}



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18 Nov 2018 21:31:56
He should think about branching out into sculpture!




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16 Nov 2018 18:31:45
If my son wanted to support anyone else other than Liverpool, I'd fully support him through the adoption process :)




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16 Nov 2018 17:39:33
A flock of sheep is all he needs to conquer Goodison Park ;-)