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07 Jun 2018 23:50:58
Shaqiri created 84 chances last season, Salah created 59 in the league for comparison. He also scored 8 and assist 7. Those saying he has no talent and is a pub level player (paraphrasing) are going overboard massively. He has talent and quality about him but his problem s attitude and ego. If Klopp thinks he can sort him out then we'd have a good player as back up who offers us something no other players on our bench do. For 12m is seems good business to me, if it goes wrong, sell him on in January for a profit. Similar things were said about Mane re attitude with people similarly going overboard with their criticism of him but he sorted himself out and we have a top player on our hands. Shaqiri isn't as good as Mane obviously but I think he'd be a very good back up if Klopp can sort him out. We must make it clear to him before he signs what his role will be though. I also hope we sign Simon Moses, our cover on the winger is non-existent and we need to have the option of resting both Salah and Mane without becoming toothless, signing him would also help us in the earlier stages of the cups.

Lemuel

1.) 08 Jun 2018 00:35:59
For me Shaqiri’s talent has never been in doubt, what worries me is his attitude and work rate. If he knuckles down and works hard then £12 million for him is a bargain.


2.) 08 Jun 2018 01:06:50
Charlie Adam had great stats too.


3.) 08 Jun 2018 02:24:34
Adam and Shaqiri are very different players.

Shaqiri is a gamble anyway we look at it though.


4.) 08 Jun 2018 02:39:29
Downing scored 7 goals and registered 7 assists in the league in his final season at Villa. Didn't score a single league goal for us in his first season.


5.) 08 Jun 2018 03:32:00
Anyone who has properly watched Shaqiri play more than just a couple times will see the lads got a lot of quality and shouldn’t have been at a club like stoke. His attitude is what made his career stall and why the majority of people doubt this transfer. I think he’s a more established player than our other options (Moses Simon specifically) but I do have my reservations on how he’d handle being a squad player rather than in the first 11. One other thing that bothers me is that he’s left footed and plays mainly on the RW which is where Salah plays, I think Salah is the more consistent out of mane and him so if anyone was ever to get ‘dropped’ wouldn’t it be mane? And we all knows left footed players that cut in don’t do well on the left side. So in other words he offers less flexibility that a signing like Moses Simon would.


6.) 08 Jun 2018 04:48:57
I think Shaqiri, even for all his issues, is good on two counts:
1. We are lacking a great set piece taker in our first eleven, and Shaqiri can really produce the goods
2. When Salah starts playing centrally at the end of games, we don’t have a lot of options on the right wing / with left footers.


7.) 08 Jun 2018 05:32:53
Fekir is a set piece taker.


8.) 08 Jun 2018 06:27:09
Fekir is also left footed.


 

 

05 Jun 2018 00:38:10
Given that Macca mentioned Tarkowski in the list, I'd hope that's a sign we've looked at CBs as well. Lovren while he's done well since Van Dijk joined is never too far away from another error and I don't think he'll ever truly be able to iron these errors out of his game given that he's already 28. I doubt Tarkowski or Lascelles are the answer, so hopefully we aware of the likes of De Ligt and Upamecano. Upamecano would be my choice personally, I think he'll compliment Van Dijk better.

Lemuel

1.) 05 Jun 2018 05:16:08
Lovren has looked much more solid since VVD cape in. I agree that he may still have a mistake in him but considering we got to a CL final with him I think he deserves another season. With Fabinho coming in I think Gomez will play more games from central next year, and one of either Matip or Klavan will move on.


2.) 05 Jun 2018 06:33:59
Like many I have been on Lovren's back for much of his spell at 'Pool, but I honestly look at how he plays these days with a more stronger backline and see how much he has improved and how much he gives every time he plays for us. You're almost only as good as your partner! I would keep Lovren and Virgil as first choice center back pairing for next season, but I can't stress enough how bad of a defender Joel Matip is, and how much I would like him to be moved on. If that was the case then I definitely feel as if we should look at bringing in another center half who could push to become that 3rd choice. Not forgetting Joe Gomez, I just don't think he is ready to be played there yet, but is promising for the future.


3.) 05 Jun 2018 06:56:55
Agree with SkySaleh. Lovren has looked really good paired up with van Dijk. He doesn't seem all that overly ambitious now, gets help with positioning.
Slightly worried that he regularly is the one just a little deeper than the other defenders cancelling offsides. That can be dealt with though. Hope the coaches will work with him on that issue after the wcs.


4.) 05 Jun 2018 07:16:11
Lovren has improved next to VVD but consider this, how good could our defence be if we had a good CB playing next to him?


5.) 05 Jun 2018 07:26:19
If VVD gets serious injury and is out for say three months then we’re back to square one. Yes he’s improved but for me he’s a third choice can’t half.


6.) 05 Jun 2018 07:44:18
No defender makes zero errors, just doesn't happen. Lovren has done very little wrong since being paired with VVD, cut the lad some slack and show him some support.


7.) 05 Jun 2018 08:13:52
Lovren has been reliable. The issue I've is that he hardly played consecutive games maybe because of fitness or injuries. If he doesn't have that next season, then he should continue with VVD.
Outside signing someone in the class of Alderweireld, I don't see the need to change the CB pairing.


8.) 05 Jun 2018 08:40:21
Klopp said very recently that he sees Lovren as world class.
So all those rubbing their hands at an exotically named shiny new expensive centre back to replace Lovren may be in for a major disappointment.


9.) 05 Jun 2018 08:50:21
There are some players Klopp will never drop even for his money! Lovren and Wijnaldum are two of those! I expect him to get another contract soon! We need to suck this bitter truth and move on!
How has he improved? Lol we play so dominating football that there is hardly any work for our defenders and keepers. And when they are called up on they are Pants!

Is it the same Lovren that got beaten all ends by Lukaku? He is a bang average player who unfortunately Klopp likes. Similar to Moreno and Karius!
Move on!

{Ed001's Note - bang average player who dominated Lukaku in the previous game. Bang average player that kept Ronaldo quiet in the final. You really are just clueless at times Harry. Only thing you ever want to do is slag off LFC players. It is boring. Give it a rest.}


10.) 05 Jun 2018 09:21:26
Slag off? Like whom? Lovren was beaten by Ronaldo for that disallowed goal! I am sorry I don’t rate Lovren one bit like you don't rate VVD. There is lot more the story than just keeping Ronaldo quiet. Ronaldo on the whole had a very poor game thanks to the way we kept their flanks very quiet and their passing! Boring is changing the tunes suddenly after one game! I never rated Lovren tbh not even from the day we signed him!
Sorry but disagree with you here.

{Ed001's Note - I really give up, what the hell has Van Dijk got to do with anything and when have I said he is not got ability? Unlike your moronic abuse, I actually explain why I have problems with aspects of a players style, rather than just slag them off. I am done discussing football with you, it is pointless as you offer nothing of value.}


11.) 05 Jun 2018 10:22:19
Has lovern actually made a mistake since the spurs game? I think the lad has got his head down and worked hard on improving his game.


12.) 05 Jun 2018 10:26:08
Lovren was great in the second half of the season. I can't bring myself to judge him on his first half as he had Mignolet behind him, Can in front of him, and Matip and Moreno next to him. Couple that with his mental state clearly not being right and the fact he was playing with pain killers and only training roughly 2 days a week, and I just don't think it is fair to chastise him for that time.

I like Lovren. He is a good footballer, and if everyone in our team mirrored his strength of character and work rate, we'd be a much better team.


13.) 05 Jun 2018 10:48:45
Very true MK, well said mate.


14.) 05 Jun 2018 11:28:41
It’s one of the team’s biggest weaknesses.
If we want to compete, we have to improve 👍.


15.) 05 Jun 2018 12:13:34
Absolutely Ron. We drew 11 games last season and Lovren lolayed a huge part in most of it! It’s been like 5 years and he is still error prone! I don’t find any reasons to defend him as a player.


16.) 05 Jun 2018 17:50:05
You don't half talk some garbage lad. Lovren plays a far better game than you talk one, all you ever seem to do is slag players on here.
Are you actually a supporter or what?


 

 

22 May 2018 00:09:29
If we end the summer having got in:

Butland (Karius remains No.1)
Odriozola (Hasn't been confirmed by the Eds/ Macca but we did watch him, we want a rb and his quality going forward would be suited to the way we play) .
Tarkowski
Cebellos
Keita
Fekir
Dembele

then that would be without doubt an excellent window, one that I can't see any other team in the Premier League topping. We'd have got in some excellent players/ excellent prospects, who've all shown quality and all have room to improve and ticked all the boxes that were there at the start of the window. Here's hoping we get all of our targets.

Lemuel

1.) 22 May 2018 00:38:09
Would this kind of a window start testing our homegrown quota though?


2.) 22 May 2018 02:22:50
Butland won't join Liverpool to play second fiddle to Karius.
Tarkowski is crap! One find day his stakes aren’t going to improve coz we are linked with him! We still lack a RB, a LB ( Moreno should be moved on ), A world class DLP / Holding mid.
Kieta, Fekir and Dembele would improve us.


3.) 22 May 2018 06:26:19
Surprise surprise, Harry doesn’t think the English players we are linked with are good enough.


 

 

14 Apr 2018 01:17:03
I think James Maddison would be a great signing this summer, seems to have a great deal of potential. Would probably cost about 20-30m given their money troubles and wouldn't expect to start every game. Him in and Wijnaldum out would be very good business.

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12 Apr 2018 03:11:53
Didn't realise Anthony Martial was out of contract this summer. If he doesn't sign a new contract then I wouldn't mind us cheekily offering him one. Klopp is one of the best in the business as unlocking potential and Martial would be a great option to have on the bench to rotate the front 3 with. I'm not sure whether he or anyone can provide us with what Firmino does but he'd certainly be more of a threat than Ings and solanke up top. Might be a mute point as I'm not sure he'd be willing to join to sit on the bench. Then again, football has become more of a squad game, so maybe he'll be interested in working with Klopp and fancy his chances at getting into the starting 11. We could even wheel out the 424 formation against weaker teams and play our front 3 and Martial, so seems a shrewd signing if possible.

Lemuel

1.) 12 Apr 2018 04:25:21
I don't rate any player so highly to be "cheekily offering him one".

I'll always fully support my team, but surely that is going above and beyond?!

And anyway, his contract is until summer 2019.

And he wouldn't want to be a backup, which is part of the reason why he's getting fidgety at Man Utd.

{Ed001's Note - do you have soft hands?}


2.) 12 Apr 2018 05:08:36
Less about the quality of the player and more about the situation in which we'd be bringing him in (plays for United, wouldn't think he'd like to be a back up) with the 'cheeky reference'. Ah, that's a no go then as you'd think they'd never sell to us, mind you though, Mourinho sold Mata to United when at Chelsea so I could see him selling if he has the final say and we offer enough.


3.) 12 Apr 2018 08:16:14
If we’re going to speak in blasphemous tones, I wouldn’t mind a bid for de gea- cheeky or not. Probably the only united player I’d ever take EVER. Not sure we’d be interested in paying the inflated wages for martial anyway. Klopp may get the best out of him but I think there are far better players out there and free transfers are anything but these days.


4.) 12 Apr 2018 07:19:47
Well he is out of contract by the end of next season and United has the option of another season so he could be bounded till Summer 2020.

Martial always seems lazy and listless to me and im not too sure if he works in Klopps system. Also i don't really get the "Game Time" aspect because we have about +-50 games a season and most of the fit players have 20+ games up their sleeve (Firmino 32, Salah 31, Ox 30 as the most played players) . Rotation is key and if we have another strong winger we can always rest one of the others and have less injurys and less stress for each of the attacking players.


5.) 12 Apr 2018 09:12:38
Wasn't one of Mane's criticisms that he was lazy when we signed him. On tue night Mane was only just outran by our midfield 3.


6.) 12 Apr 2018 09:58:53
Hands that do dishes, Ed001 😉👋.

{Ed001's Note - in that case no need to take one for the team, you can just fob him off with a quick hand job...}


7.) 12 Apr 2018 10:47:10
hahaha! get the fairy washing up liquid ready Zed lol.


8.) 12 Apr 2018 11:15:30
Wouldn’t mind bringing Lucas Vazquez from Real. He is struggling for minutes and real would be more than happy to offload him.


 

 

 

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13 Jun 2018 19:17:37
Thanks for sharing Waro.

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13 Jun 2018 01:39:57
Would be an interesting one. At present the lad would struggle to finish his dinner but he has potential and as a back up winger I wouldn't be opposed to him signing, one of Klopp's specialties is polishing rough diamonds. The thing is though, given the figure Watford would likely want, wouldn't we be better off buying someone who is closer to being the finished article?

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31 May 2018 23:54:21
If we get Alisson or Oblak I'd be over the moon. Also with the unrest at Chelsea atm and them losing stars + not having Champions League football, why would anyone choose them over us? I definitely think we can get Alisson ahead of Chelsea.

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31 May 2018 23:52:27
In a world where Arnautovics' are going for 50m, paying 70-80m for a player who has the potential to be one of the best players in the world is a sound investment.

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30 May 2018 06:09:10
Id much rather get De Ligt, he's aging and injury prone.

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19 Jun 2018 16:19:09
Fekir is capable of playing up front too.

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12 Jun 2018 01:30:43
Top article Adam, really appreciate it.

One negative though, you managed to take my mind off of Fekir and then proceeded to remind me of him right at the end! (Only messing with you mate)

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10 Jun 2018 14:28:19
Best of luck to her.

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10 Jun 2018 14:21:40
I hope we do the smart thing and pay up for Fekir.

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08 Jun 2018 18:08:42
No surprises there. Good luck to them for the future.

Lemuel