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06 Aug 2017 20:44:06
Hi eds have we accepted an offer for Coutinho from Barcelona?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware that anything has been agreed at this moment in time. I am aware that there was a discussion in London.}


1.) 06 Aug 2017 21:56:51
Word is that we have said yes, it's all rumour, but I would'nt be surprised.

If it is true, I'm appalled as it completely throws all our preparation for our first game into ruins. It's like we learn nothing from previous seasons mistakes.


2.) 06 Aug 2017 22:07:26
I seriously hope it's not true! Klopp has personally stamped it himself and said he's going nowhere if Couts does go that puts a massive cloud over FSG and Klopp.


3.) 06 Aug 2017 22:08:17
Its looking like he going wouldn't be suprised.


4.) 06 Aug 2017 21:27:02
Thanks for the reply.


5.) 06 Aug 2017 21:30:47
Ed2 what's the latest regarding Lanzini? Would Liverpool like to do a deal if little Pip goes? Thanks once again.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Liverpool making any approach to West Ham at this time.}


6.) 06 Aug 2017 21:42:20
With you stating that there has been a discussion why does Klopp keep stating Coutinhio is not for sale? Surely Klopp would know this and will only anger the fans if he is now sold?

Baz.

{Ed002's Note - There have been several discussions. The fans can't be angered by Klopp - they have already been taken in and can't see the smiley clown persona slipping just yet.}


7.) 06 Aug 2017 22:11:21
Think how klopp feels if true as apparently people above him have all but made the decision.


8.) 06 Aug 2017 22:12:12
Sky sports saying he not played last 2 games so he dosnt get injured as talks are ongoing.


9.) 06 Aug 2017 22:13:57
Shocking to say the least. so RBL resisted LFC's attempts for Keita while Klopp stated that Coutinho would not be sold as LFC are not a selling club. Not only are LFC a selling club. there's no ambition at all. Selling Coutinho now would send the wrong signal to the squad at the start of a new season.

{Ed002's Note - Players are transients, they come and go. Another or others will arrive and it will all soon be forgotten.}


10.) 06 Aug 2017 22:17:18
Could start the season with no Coutinho and a manager resigning.


11.) 06 Aug 2017 22:23:14
When are we going to learn? We were apparently going to challenge for the title this year blah blah blah. but as usual we just go ahead and sell our best player and screw our chances again.

Good old FSG. Another year of disappointment and panic buying ahead. I know we are not a one trick pony with Couts, but might as well be.


12.) 06 Aug 2017 22:26:56
And IF true £90m is a p***take.


13.) 06 Aug 2017 22:27:46
The fact we are even having these discussions ed sais to me we may well sell him mate?

{Ed002's Note - I have spent more than a year explaining that.}


14.) 06 Aug 2017 22:29:36
we've got to accept coutinho is on his way out let's just get as much as we can and move on. when coutinho was injured and mane at the end of last year who did we miss more in my opinion it was mane. go and buy a striker or give solanke a chance play mane and salah wide and fiminio behind the striker his preferred role just my opinion. keep up the good work eds.


15.) 06 Aug 2017 22:23:14
When are we going to learn? We were apparently going to challenge for the title this year blah blah blah. but as usual we just go ahead and sell our best player and screw our chances again.

Good old FSG. Another year of disappointment and panic buying ahead. I know we are not a one trick pony with Couts, but might as well be.


16.) 06 Aug 2017 22:26:56
And IF true £90m is a p***take.


17.) 06 Aug 2017 22:27:46
The fact we are even having these discussions ed sais to me we may well sell him mate?


18.) 06 Aug 2017 22:29:36
we've got to accept coutinho is on his way out let's just get as much as we can and move on. when coutinho was injured and mane at the end of last year who did we miss more in my opinion it was mane. go and buy a striker or give solanke a chance play mane and salah wide and fiminio behind the striker his preferred role just my opinion. keep up the good work eds.


19.) 06 Aug 2017 22:33:25
Selling Coutinho and bringing in Lanzini is underwhelming to say the very least. It's typical us mind you.


20.) 06 Aug 2017 22:42:23
is this ajax guy a potential replacement for counts then?


21.) 06 Aug 2017 23:00:45
Again, selling top class players and gambling on potential or sub standard players. This is why we haven't won the league for nearly 30 years and never will if we continue like this.


22.) 06 Aug 2017 23:12:18
I for one will not be happy if we let Coutinho go. How can we see ourselves as a team wanting to compete with the top teams and Europe's elite if we allow our best players to leave. In the current market £90 million is a tad low. I'd say £120 million to even consider selling.

Baz.


23.) 06 Aug 2017 23:14:14
how comes some people's posts are appearing twice on a thread? anywho, I've said it before and will happily say it again. coutinho is free to leave if that is what he wants, and it certainly seems like that is what he wants.

He is getting a pass because he hasn't made a song and dance about it like sterling, suarez and torres. so credit to him. but in the end if the player doesn't want to be here, then he should go. Klopp said that himself when talking about not going after players who only wanted champions league. he wanted players who would come to fight for liverpool. seems like coutinho is giving up the fight and it can't be turned around, so it may be in our best interest to bid farewell.


24.) 06 Aug 2017 23:21:56
Reminds me of the time we bought Andy Carroll thinking he was the dogs.


25.) 06 Aug 2017 23:25:27
Frankly shankley as much as I agree, if a player is determined to leave Torres, Suarez coutinho.

I don't see a lot of choice unless you force them to stay. I for one would rather have players committed to the club. Old fashioned I guess.


26.) 07 Aug 2017 00:12:34
Any insight into a replacement if sold/ . Or has this been updated on the sharkpod Ed's?

{Ed002's Note - You need to read the posts.}


27.) 07 Aug 2017 00:17:32
You can say no, like Red Bull Leipzig and Southampton. Now we face losing a top class player and will replace him with absolute mediocrity at stupid prices because clubs will know we're desperate. I can guarantee that the players who come in will not be of sufficient quality. I'm absolutely certain of that.


28.) 07 Aug 2017 00:26:37
in other words no. thanks.


29.) 07 Aug 2017 01:27:37
now we know what F. S. G stands for. FOREVER. SELLING. GOALSCORERS.


30.) 07 Aug 2017 02:01:58
Gutted if he goes but its not unexpected. The question is not If but When. Personally, I would accept that he'll leave when clubs like Barcelona comes knocking but I thought it would be next season and not this season. Anyways, life does go on. until we rise to the top again, big clubs will poach our top players, just like we poach players from Southampton etc. My only problem is, it will be very difficult to rise up when we sell important players as we're trying to build a good team. Its like taking one step forward, and three steps backwards. We can clearly see the impact when we lost Suarez. We still don't have a so called Suarez replacement till today. Hopefully if we do replace Coutinho, that person will fill in seamlessly but I doubt it, I really do.


31.) 07 Aug 2017 07:44:34
"Panic buy" implies large amounts of cash being spent.
I don't think That's F$G policy.


32.) 07 Aug 2017 09:10:21
Panic buys? Ballotelli, Carroll, Sakho all panic buys.


33.) 07 Aug 2017 17:54:24
90 mil, a piss take? Some people live in a dream world. The most expensive player in the premiership ever and it's a piss take? Neymar deal has moved the goal posts and now people expect 140 mil for a 14 goal 7 assist player. Ridiculous. I bet we bring in lanzini for 30 mil and I bet he does really well for us. He's a brilliant little player, no offence but way too good for west ham. He could be just as influential as coutinio. I bet he scores 14 at least and makes more than 7 assists. Ergo no problem. And we'll be 60 mil up. 1000% mark up, good business, let's be fair.


34.) 07 Aug 2017 18:07:35
Most worrying is the feeling towards klopp that seems to be seaping into the valley. Of course he smiles for the camera and plays the tourist but you only have to here him talk of football to see the underlying passion and ambition. I don't care either way, all that matters is results on the pitch. So far we have progresses under him and still look to be doing so. Smashing bayern Munich for example. It's obvious to anyone who watches us that we are playing the best football we have for long long time. Before anyone turns on klopp (sho so far has lost no one) think who could possibly replace him?


 

 

20 Jul 2016 21:07:51
Ed's have we accepted a bid from Stoke for Allen?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - THere has been an offer but I don't know if it has been accepted.}


1.) 21 Jul 2016 01:28:30
Confirmed by ESPN and The Echo. Never quite fit Klopps plans.


2.) 21 Jul 2016 15:43:52
It better be accepted as we are good at pricing out our players from moving elsewhere.


 

 

20 Jul 2016 20:09:26
Flanagan could be going to Burnley on loan for the season.

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - Even Klopp would not be stupid enough to buy a player to replace one going on loan.}


1.) 20 Jul 2016 20:21:49
What do you mean by "Even Klopp"? Not suggesting anything, just interested by what you mean by that.

{Ed002's Note - It is plain English - you should be able to grasp what it means.}


2.) 20 Jul 2016 20:22:15
Ed what's your reasons for not being a Klopp fan. Do you not rate him as a manager. You often make comments such as "even klopp" wouldn't be that stupid which suggests that you ain't impressed or convinced of his abilities.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained about Klopp in the past.}


3.) 20 Jul 2016 20:43:05
Ed 002, can you explain again for me please or is there an area I can look for, for your comments on Klopp? Just interested as most fans are completely in love with the guy.

{Ed002's Note - try the search engine.}


4.) 20 Jul 2016 21:12:06
Ed2 you are underrating Klopp at your peril.

{Ed002's Note - It was a compliment - perhaps we need brighter posters who understand that. Judging by the responses clearly the knuckle-dragging morons are out in force again this evening. In the meantime keep celebrating the failure.}


5.) 20 Jul 2016 21:23:05
Ed002's whose the player you are suggesting we have bought to replace the out going flannagan.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about.}


6.) 20 Jul 2016 21:53:57
It was a dig at Brendan and/ or past management.


7.) 20 Jul 2016 21:57:41
Ed it's great when you get fierce and use words like knuckle dragging morons but I can take it on the chin. Take it easy mate.


8.) 20 Jul 2016 22:07:22
We're not celebrating failure Ed002. We're basking in the warm glowth of hope :)


9.) 20 Jul 2016 22:26:28
I wonder who Ed002 would of preferred if we can ask?

{Ed002's Note - For what?}


10.) 20 Jul 2016 22:47:33
Hi Ed002 not trying to wind you up here but i would really like to read your opinion of Klopp. I have tried the search function but had no luck, could you send me a link or a search word to read your views

Thanks

Gary (not a knuckle dragger)

{Ed002's Note - There is no link - but you should be able to find something on the web site.}


11.) 20 Jul 2016 23:39:27
Who cares if Ed002 rates Klopp or not. He is going to be here for another 6 years and will take Liverpool to newer heights. Atleast, the majority of the Kop are behind him. Your welcome :)


12.) 21 Jul 2016 00:38:37
Ed02 - You are a Chelsea fan aren't you, or have some links? What are your initial thoughts on Conte as well?

{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page - this is the Liverpool page.}


13.) 21 Jul 2016 07:29:46
I'm not speaking for Ed002, I'm not qualified to do that but I believe I can give a flavour of ed002's thoughts on Klipperty.
-Ed002 has met Klipperty and doesn't dislike him.
-Like all managers, Klipperty is nothing special, he's a man doing a job of managing a football club not some mercurial genius. As Klipperty himself said "I'm the normal one" and I think ed002 agrees.
-Klipperty had problems in his last season in Dortmund because he failed to adapt his tactics of 'gegenpress' or 'Kopflose Hühne' or 'blitz football'. Ed002 has not seen any evidence of Klipperty adapting his tactics yet.

I think basically ed002 does not have these outrageous expectations of Klopp's time at LFC like I do 😎 because ed002 is a realist whereas I'm a crazy fan who's hopelessly optimistic 😄. It's nothing to do with Chelsea.


14.) 21 Jul 2016 08:10:06
Would just like to state that klopp will only sign players who WANT to play for LFC and not come here for money.


 

 

19 Jul 2016 15:59:19
Ed2 what's the latest regarding Wijnaldum mate? Are we pushing for a deal?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - Wijnaldum is a player that Klopp has decided he wants and the club know the asking price.}


1.) 19 Jul 2016 17:07:15
Cheers thanks.


2.) 19 Jul 2016 17:44:13
Only Newcastle could have a player that was total flop and want to double their money.


3.) 19 Jul 2016 17:47:22
Lord help us.


4.) 19 Jul 2016 18:05:09
Fearless, no way he was a total flop last season, a bit inconsistent but turned some very good performances in.


5.) 19 Jul 2016 18:10:11
I think we should walk away from this.


6.) 19 Jul 2016 18:20:51
A bit inconsistent! He went missing the second half of the season. Newcastle fans used to play "Where's Wijnaldum". He was that bad he was nearly relegated to the reserves. Believe me when I say the Newcastle fans won't miss him and will be laughing all the way to the bank if anyone pays over £20mil.


7.) 19 Jul 2016 18:35:36
I think Wijnaldum would add something to the team, definitely. £20million is a bit steep but when you consider we somehow managed to get £15million for Ibe, it balances it out a bit. I don't think Newcastle fans can blame their season on him being inconsistant.


8.) 19 Jul 2016 18:39:19
Let me suggest a mantra here: Klopp can do no wrong.


9.) 19 Jul 2016 18:43:10
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he score 11 goals last season in the prem for Newcastle? Not bad for going missing. Especially when the messiah Coutinho scored 8. People are too quick to write players off nowadays.


10.) 19 Jul 2016 18:57:26
Amazing how many people are writing him off yet klopp wants him .


11.) 19 Jul 2016 19:03:58
I agree with Leekuanyew, Klopp can do no wrong. 😃.


12.) 19 Jul 2016 19:07:46
Yes he did score 11 goals but not in the second half of the season when he went missing, when it counted, when it was revealed what he really was, a lazy couldn't care less waste of space who was happy to get paid and couldn't give a stuff if Newcastle got relegated.


13.) 19 Jul 2016 19:08:55
God the crap people say on this site. Now i know why the eds get so p****d off with some people. Yeah he might not be the right player we need, but if its the guy Klopp wants then let's trust put our trust in him. On 1 hand people are sayin 'trust in klopp' and then once he signs someone its a different matter. Come on lads he hasn't even signed or put on that magic shirt yet. What happened to that spirit, what happened to 'trust in klopp he's the right man for the job' and most of all what happened to YNWA?


14.) 19 Jul 2016 19:12:32
Some players just don't work at certain clubs. Wijnaldum didn't work at Newcastle. It's not an excuse for his attitude but McClaren probably sold his project at Newcastle as a hopeful charge at European football. If you signed under that pretence and then found yourself staring at almost certain relegation by Christmas, then saw the lack of ambition from the owner, manager and club to sign average players like Shelvey and Townsend. I mean Jesus, Newcastle were enough last season to make half their fans give up On any hope of survival by January.

Fact is, Wijnaldum has real talent and he proved that in his first few months at Newcastle and his entire career prior to that in Holland. To write him off based on half a season in which he lacked effort in a team where nobody was trying is ridiculous. That whole club is an absolute shambles. I have every faith Rafa will turn it around, but whilst I don't condone the attitude shown by the players, I do understand it to some extent.

A terrible owner, a terrible manager, a fan base that has given up, and team mates with no real quality. I'd rather judge him on his time at PSV than that shambolic excuse of a football club. A player who is used to competing for trophies wasn't prepared to get his hands dirty in a relegation battle. Shows he is a bit of a prima donna, but it doesn't mean he is a bad player or that he'd be like that here. Hopefully we could compete for trophies and bring out the winning mentality inside him.

Some brilliant players have completely and inexplicably failed at certain clubs and under certain managers. Look at Drinkwater and Pogba. Not good enough for United but Ferguson got the best out of Cleverley! Rafa didn't rate Alonso as highly as Gareth Barry. So just because he wants rid of Wijnaldum doesn't mean anything really. When Payet was sold the fans of Marseille were glad to be shot of him, so who cares if Newcastle fans are glad to be shot of Wijnaldum?

If Klopp thinks that he can get the best out of Wijnaldum, then let's give him a chance to prove us all wrong. If it goes horribly wrong you can all say "I told you so".


15.) 19 Jul 2016 19:18:32
Chee 6 of those 11 goals came in matches that didn't matter.


16.) 19 Jul 2016 19:24:59
MK basically what i tried to say in a nutshell too much jumpin the gun from so called SUPPORTERS.


17.) 19 Jul 2016 19:45:37
Difference between Payet and Wijnaldum is that Payet had some discernible talent. Wijnaldum couldn't be bothered to do what he was paid for and wasn't that good in a weak Dutch league, do you think he would have ended up at Newcastle if he had played well. If we spend what Newcastle are asking for him that would be as bad as Balotelli, Benteke and Carroll.


18.) 19 Jul 2016 19:47:52
MK I will admit being wrong in future if he turns out a success but, right now, I am convinced he is a bad signing and one that will be put in the expensive failures category- a category we have filled far too frequently in recent times. The fact Newcastle weren't doing better is not an excuse for him playing poorly, it reflects badly on his play and his attitude. Even for a reasonable price I'd be unhappy - but £20million? Come on that is ludicrous. Save it, buy someone better, or even use it to pay the extra money to get the Chilwell deal over the line! This, if it happens, will go down as another transfer failure to add to the huge list of transfer failures out club has been a part of recently. We have no acumen when it comes to acquiring players and honestly, while that is the case, we will never reach the top.

As for Klopp doing no wrong? Caulker is a perfect example of this not being the case. So is a 5 year contract for Mignolet. He is fallable and this transfer would be a huge mistake in my opinion.


19.) 19 Jul 2016 19:59:11
"He was that bad he was nearly relegated to the reserves. " Just because you don't like him doesn't mean you should chat nonsense.
He was dropped from the starting XI for 2 games, against us and City, and that was so they could put out an XI of workers to try ground out results. He actually played all of the 2nd half against us too helping them rescue a point. He started the 36 other premier league games, so you obviously don't know what you're chatting about.

FranklyMrShankly
I'm not sure how you've decided that a game against relegation rivals doesn't matter, infact they're probably some of the most important games of the season for teams fighting relegation.
Sure why don't we discount all of Suarez's goals against Norwich because them matches must not have mattered either. Only got 57 goals for us then.
Every game in the premier league is important, to say anything else is just absolutely ridiculous.


20.) 19 Jul 2016 20:01:25
Red til dead. see why the eds get p***ed? They are more against us signing him than anyone on here. And more than likely the reason so many have such a bad opinion of him.


21.) 19 Jul 2016 20:14:02
MK, making excuses and blaming every other person and his dog for Wijnaldum`s poor shortcomings and trying to draw paralells that make no sense, will not change the facts as we know them to be. He was poor and wasn`t bothered to even work hard to help a team that really needed him to step up regardless of circumstances. mike Ashley is not the reason he didn`t score in 30 od games after scoring 11 in 7 of which 4 were in one game vs relegation fodder. If` he`s that good, why is Newcastle desperate to get rid? Why did he get benched by Rafa for not working hard enuff and pressing high during games? Care to answer that, MK? He is poor, lacks bottle, no desire and very inconsistent, everything we give Benteke (who`s a far better player) grief for and the very things Klopp hates in his players yet you wanna give him a pass by digging up irrelevant and irrational arguments to make your point. Ain`t going to happen. The guy is poor and he won`t change. In fact, he`s not even better than those we already have here so again, he`s not needed and I hope it doesn`t happen.


22.) 19 Jul 2016 20:19:49
Newcastle were poor across the whole team. There was clearly issues behind the scenes which would effect the players performance. That said when he had a good game he looked decent and if Klopp can get consistent performance from him it might not be a bad addition to the squad.


23.) 19 Jul 2016 18:21:24
Eds from what you've learned about this deal do you think we're likely to stump up the fee? Are we close in our evaluation? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Klipperty wants the kid so there is a good chance.}


24.) 19 Jul 2016 20:27:43
Actually 'You' 4 goals in a game against a team that were always going to be relegated was inconsequential by virtue of the fact they would have won if he had only scored one, the comparison with Suarez is ludicrous simply because Suarez scored against pretty much everyone and put 110% in every game, something that Wijnaldum has never done ever, he was poor in a weak Dutch league, he's been poor for the Netherlands and he's been poor for Newcastle, he will be poor for us, period. Frankly he's a shockingly bad player who we should be avoiding like the plague not wasting £27m plus on.


25.) 19 Jul 2016 20:28:52
He scored 11 goals from midfield for the worst team in the league. Get off you couch expert positions and stop whining, gentlemen.


26.) 19 Jul 2016 20:42:05
Let the tearing down of 'said' player begin. Newcastle weren't up to much for half the season, when they were good so was wijnaldum. The suarez comparisons end at the number of goals in a game they scored against norwich. There are a handful of players that play like suarez and we are not in the queue to get em.

From what I've seen of wijnaldum for newcastle and holland, he is quick, technically good, lots of energy, creative and gets others involved around the box. To me they are all attributed that Klopp can use. And let's be honest here - even with coutinho, firmino and sturridge in the line-up together how often woild you get frustrated with the lack of creativity to create chances? We need players like wijnaldum who can get into the box, create 1-2s, angles etc etc he can bring a different dimension to our midfield that we don't get from milner, lallana and to some extent hendo. I think he's the sort of player Klopp wants for that mid-att role and brings versatility as well.


27.) 19 Jul 2016 20:44:22
Norwich were always going to get relegated? I didn't realise the premier league was that predictable. He actually scored the first 2 so they wouldn't have won without them. There's every possibility if he didn't take his first chances Norwich would've won the game.
I also didn't mention anything about Suarez's effort but surely if one players goals against a relegated team don't count then that should apply for all.
You clearly don't like the player, and that's fine it's your opinion, but to say that you should discount his goals in certain games is just plain stupid.
Everyone seems to be pretty obsessed with his goals too without ever bringing up his 5 assists, which isn't that bad when you consider there wasn't many goalscorers to assist. I wouldn't consider Mitrovic or Cisse to be clinical anyway.


28.) 19 Jul 2016 20:58:22
There is absolutely no way to judge whether or not this will go down as 'the worst signing' yet.
If it happens, suspend your judgements until we have seen him play a few games for us.

Now I hope he does sign just so he can prove all the doubters wrong.


29.) 19 Jul 2016 21:02:25
100% agree with 'You'.

Cincy, you haven't asked me to explain anything I haven't already explained. Why do you think you know what Klopp wants more than he knows himself though?


30.) 19 Jul 2016 21:11:32
At the end of the day lads Klopp is the manager, he's who FSG and us fans put our faith in, he knows what system he wants to play and what players he believes will work well in it, so if he wants GW then who are we to judge, yes we are entitled to our opinions but if the boss thinks it's what we need who are we to say it's not.


31.) 19 Jul 2016 21:23:45
I have it on good authority that Lucas could be going to Newcastle as part of the deal.


32.) 19 Jul 2016 22:04:24
My thoughts are as normal. Not my ideal choice of signing but if he joins Liverpool let's support the lad and hope he brings success to the club.


33.) 19 Jul 2016 22:13:00
". Sure why don't we discount all of Suarez's goals against Norwich because them matches must not have mattered either. " I think it was 'you' who mentioned Suarez. I'm merely making the point that 11 goals doesn't look so good when you spark four past a team that were only just better than Aston Villa and another two when it didn't matter on the last day. For 30 games last year he couldn't be bothered. If you're happy with that kind of player I will be happy to remind you of this at the end of the season when we'll be struggling to find a buyer for him.


34.) 19 Jul 2016 22:23:03
All I have to add to this is. That's a bit steep isn't it!


35.) 19 Jul 2016 22:35:07
I'm glad Klopp is steering the ship and not some of you negative Nancy's!

Reminder - YNWA.


36.) 19 Jul 2016 22:57:33
I think all people are entitled to be concerned about is the price tag. He's a championship player, with a mixed track record. Compare that to other current valuations. Zielinski for example. If we are concerned to pay more than 10mil for Chilwell, why are we not worrying about spending so much for Wy.


37.) 19 Jul 2016 21:14:03
Have we made any kind of approach yet Ed? Or it all still talk.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, the club has spoken with Newcatle.}


38.) 20 Jul 2016 01:19:40
What I said was "I also didn't mention anything about Suarez's effort" since you started comparing effort when I was just pointing out the idiocy of your statement.
If you're going to argue against me please have the decency to actually read my posts properly.
He actually scored or assisted in 11 games (the same as Coutinho and Firmino), so please stop exaggerating with your "30 games last year he couldn't be bothered"
I also didn't realise if you didn't score or assist you'd made no effort that game.
He did play in more games than Coutinho and Firmino, but he would be a backup to them if we signed him.
Also 7 of his goals and 3 of his assists came in games against who finished in the top half, not a bad record. Although his record against the teams in the bottom half is not so good.
I really don't see the issue of signing a goalscoring, assisting, pacy, direct and strong in the air attacking mid as a backup. He'd replace one of Milner and Lallana (preferably Milner imo) both of whom he outscored and he would be an improvement on them.

P. s 4 of Coutinho's 5 assists came against Aston Villa does that mean they don't count?


39.) 19 Jul 2016 23:19:54
Exactly Finglas Red, I think there's a few too many Match Of The Day experts on here!


40.) 20 Jul 2016 00:23:01
Really hope we don't get Windalym. I think he's over-rated, over-priced, doesn't try hard enough often enough and we 100% do not need him.

I wouldn't call him a centre mid, I don't think he gets involved enough in the build up play or positionally I don't think he provides much defensive resistance.

In the Attacking Centre Mid role would I prefer him over Coutinho or Firmino? Absolutely no chance. Right Wing over Mane? No chance. Anywhere but backup? Nope. Worth the fee for backup? Nope.


41.) 20 Jul 2016 01:20:44
How many goals did our midfield score against Norwich or other teams that don't matter MrShankly? I'm willing to bet it wasn't four so therefore if Wijnaldum managed four, does that not make him an upgrade on what we have? It takes a special kind of mentality to fight in a relegation battle just because a player hasn't the mentality doesn't mean they're poor players. Better players have tried and failed, most of the time it's the workhorse type players that prove best at it but that's not going to be much good for us. Also look at last season from Wijnaldum point of view. He probably thought it was the move of his career, coming to play in the PL but instead of fighting for honours he's fighting for relegation, beaten before they had kicked a ball before Rafa. As a creative player that must be a sickener, yes he didn't seem to have the stomach for the fight but he played well in enough games to still prove his quality.


42.) 20 Jul 2016 07:18:02
Franklymrshankly continues to state poor in a poor league about the Dutch league. I would concede the league is no longer as strong as it once was but unless I'm mistaken GW was voted Dutch player of year there. I'm pretty sure they can judge a player and also I'm pretty sure if he was coming direct from PSV not via Newcastle there wouldn't be an issue. Klopp is buying physicality, goals and versatility for what would appear to be a par price. If you look at 25m for Lallana with all of his tricks and flicks and no end product this guy scores and assists in a poor team so let's give him a chance before calling him a mistake.


43.) 20 Jul 2016 08:24:51
If this was Rodgers lashing out nearly £30m on a player this poor in a position we are over stocked in there would be uproar. He's an appalling player and we should be avoiding like the plague.


44.) 20 Jul 2016 09:49:35
"You" are you saying you are happy to spend 20mil plus on a backup (" but he would be a backup to them if we signed him") and do you think his attitude will be good sitting on the bench waiting his chance, you think that'll make him successful?


45.) 20 Jul 2016 12:00:37
Klopp doing a Brendan and the funny part is Club backing him on all signings.


46.) 20 Jul 2016 12:01:38
He was a boss #8 for psv.


47.) 20 Jul 2016 12:04:11
MK, I have read your comment and all I saw or read are the drawing of parallel s of stories of past players, managers and situations that anyone with a brain can draw to make his point. For example, the day Rafa thought Barry was better than Alonso was the day he lost the plot. Proof? Where's Alonso now since he left? Where's Barry?

See, anyone can draw pathetic parallels to suit his rhetoric. Notice, I'm not doing that. I don't care what he did in PSV or in a pathetically poor Eredivisie that brought us the beast known as Memphis Depay, Dutch player of the year that season before they both came to England. Abject player that Depay with a pathetic attitude, just like your Wijnaldum. Bottom line is as Seano said, this is going to be a disaster as Wijnaldum is everything that Klopp has shown to hate in a player. See Benteke.

You say why do I think I know better than Klopp. I don't. I only call it as I see it based on what Wijnaldum has done in England and not in a poor Dutch league. And Klopp isn't a know all either as he is the genius who gave Mingo a five year deal. Not slating him. Just saying he makes mistakes and this will be a big one even tho I'm open to being proven wrong.


48.) 20 Jul 2016 13:40:27
So the manager want him, the club are backing the manager and the lad looks like he is coming.
And supporters are slating him already?!?
Players cab be excellent at one club and poor at another. i'm going to cheer him on if he does coma e and play for us because until he kicks a ball for us no-one can judge him.
I trust klopp and so support the signing. What fans do. Give him a chance.


 

 

18 Jul 2016 15:57:38
Hi I saw an article in the Italian media saying that we have an interest in Gary medal and Brozovic of Inter, any truth?

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1.) 18 Jul 2016 19:10:57
Medel would be a great signing.


 

 

 

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16 Aug 2017 18:51:31
Ed2 if you are about mate there are reports coming out that Barcelona have made a new bid for Coutinho, any idea if it will be accepted? Cheers.

Mighty reds

1.) 16 Aug 2017 20:36:52
If it is, it's left it too late in the window to get a reasonable replacement and I think we will end up wasting the money as usual or accepting their third rate cast offs.


2.) 16 Aug 2017 20:39:27
Mighty reds,
I believe it's £118m.


3.) 16 Aug 2017 22:21:04
Well, if true, and if he goes, at lease he doesn't have the pressure of being the most expensive player ever! Who would have thought we would be saying that over a £118,000,000 transfer before the summer! Madness!


 

 

12 Aug 2017 15:01:16
It was a real good game of football today, if you draw your aways and win your homes, then we will be fine.

Mighty reds

1.) 12 Aug 2017 15:46:09
Wrong. Draw your away and win your home would leave you on 76 points. Do we want the title? Or 4th place?


2.) 12 Aug 2017 16:08:57
when you score 3 goals you should win.


 

 

11 Aug 2017 14:27:43
Make Pip rot in the reserves if he doesn't want to play this season.

Mighty reds

1.) 11 Aug 2017 14:38:40
Stupid post of the day.


2.) 11 Aug 2017 14:46:19
You're a clown mate.


3.) 11 Aug 2017 15:10:44
Yeah great idea. Keep an unhappy player on a 150k letting him rot in reserves and don't even get a transfer fee to buy a replacement. Are you trump in disguise?


 

 

07 Aug 2017 20:09:55
Ed2 all in all maybe an interesting last few weeks in the transfer window, would that be fair to say? Cheers for your info, and by the sounds of it a deal can be done for the Ox?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are expecting me to say.}


1.) 07 Aug 2017 20:20:07
There will be players leaving Liverpool and then some new ones joining.

I think that is what Mighty reds wants to hear.

{Ed025's Note - or it could be that you are selling your best players and importing some average crap max and the supporters are livid...i suppose its how you look at it mate..


2.) 07 Aug 2017 20:32:34
Average crap? Salah solanke and Robertson? I got to disagree mate. think we have signed some solid players there. we haven't sold any first team players yet and I think people are forgetting that.


3.) 07 Aug 2017 20:40:57
Selling Coutinho and replacing him with Oxlade Chamberlain would fulfil the definition that Ed025 stated of selling a star player and replacing them with abject mediocrity.


4.) 07 Aug 2017 20:51:17
Who is Davey Klaassen Ed025? I can think of many crap we have signed in the past compared to him ;-)

{Ed025's Note - bit early to say yet max but im very hopeful..


5.) 07 Aug 2017 20:58:11
Frankly, signing Ox will have nothing to do with replacing Coutinho you numpty.


6.) 07 Aug 2017 21:04:21
We haven't sold him yet!


7.) 07 Aug 2017 21:12:44
I am very hopeful for you too Ed025. Replacing Lukaku sorry to say is something Everton might just struggle with. Rooney 'trotting along the pitch' to the rescue.

Not often you get a new guy that steps in and becomes the next 20 plus a season goal scorer. Good luck mate, you have this new guy called Ramírez? He will be a starter won't he?

And you want to Solanke crap who is still learning his trade?

All good mate :-)

{Ed025's Note - im a fan of solanke max, bit too early to be lauding him up just yet mate but he looks very promising..


8.) 07 Aug 2017 21:29:52
Not lauding Solanke up mate. Said he is still learning his trade but to call him a 'carp' signing'?

Nothing wrong with calling crap, crap but that is what happens when you sign Rooney aka past it and virtually unknowns which is what Everton have done.

Sigurdsson might be your saviour for the season but at £50m? Not going to make up for the Lukaku loss mate.


 

 

07 Aug 2017 15:56:42
Ed2 I have read that Gomes will be offered as part of the deal, any other players likely to be included mate, Rafinha likely? Thanks for your info, too factual for some fans to accept lol.

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{Ed002's Note - We have been through this.}


 

 

 

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13 Aug 2017 07:45:18
Why would Liverpool hold a press conference to say a player is leaving, maybe a press conference for the game but that will be in Germany won't it?

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11 Aug 2017 01:26:20
Ed25 saying we are bitter from the people's bitter club themselves, you can't make laughter's like that up nowadays.

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06 Aug 2017 21:30:47
Ed2 what's the latest regarding Lanzini? Would Liverpool like to do a deal if little Pip goes? Thanks once again.

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06 Aug 2017 21:27:02
Thanks for the reply.

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28 Jul 2017 20:27:48
He should stick to promoting boxing.

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19 Aug 2017 14:37:09
Or maybe be patient and let some of the young players develop nicely into the team.

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18 Aug 2017 21:04:15
Obviously you have never watched Pipco play.

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18 Aug 2017 20:58:25
Surely as a footballer your job is to play football and that's what you are paid to do, Shame you have bad advisor's stopping from doing what you live for.

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18 Aug 2017 18:19:43
I suppose like any transfer a fee will only be accepted, once the selling club finds a fee acceptable.

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13 Aug 2017 07:56:46
Ok thanks Ed25 do you believe that obviously his agent is behind this then? Last thing any club needs is a player to down tools?

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{Ed025's Note - he does want to go MR but hes not the type who will sulk or down tools mate, the guy is a professional and i dont think you should have any worries on that score..