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18 Oct 2017 15:44:36
Gomez or Trent?

I was having this debate last night with my brother, he prefers Trent at RB but I think Gomez provides better balance defensively and still has enough about his game to contribute in attack aswell.

What are peoples thoughts?

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18 Oct 2017 20:44:27
23 I don't either as our future right back.

18 Oct 2017 06:37:33
2 clean sheets on the trot now if it carries on like this TALKSPORT will have nothing to talk about 😁.

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17 Oct 2017 23:58:21
Realise we reduce the sideway passing and passing back to defenders by 100% . Then I realise Henderson is on bench.

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18 Oct 2017 04:59:11
Can played in Hendos position and he did exactly what Hendo does, switching play and shielding the defence. If anyone changed the sideways passing it was Milner who effectively replaced Can at RM and had a good game, getting into the box on a regular occasion.

Playing Hendo at deep midfield would have yielded exactly the same result IMO.

18 Oct 2017 07:53:22
So Can did Hendo job without backpacking and side passing. Then please put Hendo on bench permanently.

18 Oct 2017 14:47:20
You misunderstood me - I meant the role from deep isn’t to provide the incisive forward pass very often, it’s down to the box to box players to break forward and get in the box. For example, neither is that Dier’s role, that’s left to Ericsson.

The deep role by its nature requires a lot of sideways passes as we probe for cracks in the defence, the passing just needs to be fast and crisp enough to unsettle the defensive patterns so the players further forward can exploit.

i do agree however that Hendo and Can should swap, with Can playing the deeper role, I think Hendo’s natural game is a bit stifled sitting in the holding role.

18 Oct 2017 16:57:13
Xabi Alonso, Tong Kroos, Miralem Pjanic etc etc used to launch attacks from deep SG! That is not the work of any B2B. In fact B2B players are old school ball winners. The deep role has two main functions ( Stop an attack, Start your own attacks, ) Read the article on midfielders by Ed01.

18 Oct 2017 18:41:35
For Ed01, hey Ed do we actually have a player ( Hendo) playing The that deep roll or during the match is it supposed to be one forward one sitting back? I thought you said our problem was that everyone was forward and neither of the two was staying back to cover the others forward run?
Or is Klopp telling Hendo to always be the “defensive” midfielder.
Thanks man, just wanted to clarify which it is.

{Ed001's Note - they are supposed to be doing a similar thing to yesterday, with Hendo holding as Can did, but occasionally breaking forward, when one of the others is meant to fill in. The problem has been that everyone just breaks forward and no one thinks to drop back.}

19 Oct 2017 00:27:28
Harry although I agree Alonso was a great player he has Masch next to him who win win the ball and guess what? Pass it sideways or backwards! In the system we play the holding mid is on his jack jones so he wins the ball and plays it along the back line looking for a gap to appear.

Honestly you’d be the first to moan if Hendo attempted Hollywood passes losing the ball for us to get broken on. His job is to stop the opposition attack and keep possession. Then when he’s further forward you see him switch the play quickly with a first time pass normally to a left back pushing forward.

He likes that sweeping diagonal as the ball comes to him from the right. Fact is when the time is right he can pass with the best of them it’s just that with him being the deepest midfielder he can’t afford to try risky passes all of the time as if he loses it we are in big trouble.

17 Oct 2017 10:47:14

I firmly believe that Klopp has little or no intention of buying a decent centre half in Jan or a decent keeper in the summer . As long as Lovren, Kalvan, Mings or Karius are our 1st choice players in the relevant positions we will always struggle to be any better than 4th in this league and Klopp seems to think that these guys are going to turn the corner sooner rather than later its bewildering to say the least as a blind man can see that not one of the 4 mentioned are remotely near good enough .

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17 Oct 2017 11:11:06

I don;t think we'll get anybody in January though I hope we can bring in a CB, but I highly doubt we will. I do think we'll get a decent CB or 2 in the summer, who knows who it'll be. I can't see us getting a new keeper. What I fail to understand about your post is you writing off Karius when the lad has barely had a chance?

17 Oct 2017 11:11:56

Must be why Klopp was chasing a centre back all summer.

17 Oct 2017 12:00:21
January is a difficult time to buy / sell players ofcourse unless you are ready to pay way over the tops. VVD could happen if we continue to ship in goals and eventually Klopp concede he has some problems at the back!
Are we scouting anyone else other than VVD? I doubt so which means the chances are very slim!

17 Oct 2017 15:53:59
I've got an idea on how to fix our CB issue.

Rather than spend £50m+ on a defender who may or may not do a good job, why don't we buy 10 CBs from the lower leagues for a couple of million each and rotate them constantly until things work out! Then we'll sell off the leftovers.

Im a genius.

19 Oct 2017 00:29:54
Harry of course we are scouting other CBs!

17 Oct 2017 00:35:34
Ive seen a few posts regarding the players performances this season so Im going to offer up mine.
Mignolet - Not strong enough yet again in my book, can't take a cross and for me out of the 3 Ward ought to be getting more of a look in as Karius also looks like he has the reactions of a Sherman tank.

Moreno - More impressed with him every week, If he carries on learning and improving then we should all be backing the fella, the one thing we all want is people who want to play for the red shirt and in my book its evident he's been happy to try and prove people wrong to get back in the side, what more can you ask for?

Lovren - Its still a no from me.
Matip - You feel like there is a good player in there somewhere If only he'd get some beef into his game, I like him but there's something missing, maybe its a good partner who knows.

Gomez - Cracking, another lad whose been happy to say right Im staying here and getting a shirt, like Moreno was impressive against UTD and proved that he can stick to the job in hand, would love to see him get a run at CB.

TAA - excellent prospect, still a nipper.
Robertson - Has looked a great signing when he's played and I don't get the constant griping about him not playing, I thought we all wanted competition for places?

Gini - Sometimes I think he's wonderful other times I think he's woeful, can not work him out some weeks at all.

Can - Sorry not for me, He runs into blind alleys, is not the best tackler and loses the ball for a big lad far too easily, I really want to like him but I can't see him staying here in fairness.

Henderson - He gets some stick on here he really does but I can't help but think stick two worldies either side of him in midfield and youd see what he's all about, he works his socks off every game and keeps the ball ticking over really well, i've been the first to moan about his sideways passing but when everyone in midfield with you is to the side of you because nobody knows how to get forward then what do you do? I think he's a loss when he doesn't play.

Couthino - Well after the lord mayors show of a summer transfer debacle he seems to have settled down, but he's going isn't he? he's quality. the end.

Grujic - Never gets a chance, he isn't going to under Klopp in my opinion.

Oxlade - It just seems so pointless doesn't it? I mean we wanted the squad adding to but can he do more than Woodburn? or any of the others for that matter? Im not sure he can, Id love him to do well as i know he's a fan and Im reserving judgement but the signing itself seems a bit daft to me.

Lallana - i've mentioned him as I personally can't wait to see him back, I think he's a good fit for us and when he's on it he's a cracking player to have in the side.
Mane - class, unlucky with the sending off I thought and we miss him when he's out, until we get a serious striker or one hits some kind of form then Id personally play him through the middle.

Salah - aaaargh the man is so frustrating! he's awesome but you just know that he needs 14 chances to bag 1 goal, an asset but a frustrating one!

Sturridge - I can't make my mind up, half of me thinks he's one of the best strikers in the league when fit so when he's fit why don't we play him as he's at least a natural finisher, half of me thinks its just never going to work for him under Klopp, Im torn.

Solanke - for me needs a good run of games up front if we're not going to somehow use Mane there, I think he's a talent and he's keen as mustard, I really like the lad and Id be bringing him in more.

Firmino - Sorry but im on the side of overrated, I see the hard work, I see the space he creates and that's all well and good but i don't want my number 9 out on the wing or sitting in the midfield areas, I want him banging them in, something that he struggles with in my book, I think he's a top lad but some days his touch is woeful and others its magic you never know what your going to get.
Im certain he'd be better behind the frontman but its something else I don't see the stubborn Mr Klopp doing, Sorry but id take a real class hitman over him any day but Id like to see him behind the 9 so to speak.

Ings - Id love him to come in and start firing goals in all over the shop but he's not going to get played is he? I so want it to work for him but he's another after injury trying to get in, can't fault his attitude one bit with all the u23 games he's had too, top lad, hopefully we'll see more of him if we keep misfiring.

Thats my lot, they're only my own opinions so no sniping fellas, Im just trying to have healthy conversation here, oh and as for Mr Klopp, this season Im afraid the jury is out up to press.
Cheers all YNWA.

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17 Oct 2017 08:01:02
Some sensible points there. Won't go into each one, just wanted to point out that firmino is no number nine, I don't know that he's ever claimed to be, klopp plays him there.

16 Oct 2017 22:09:23
Ed01, do you have any plans to start a separate page for a Klopp appreciation. I bet the page will be a big hit. ☺️☺️☺️☺️, So that we can avoid the daily Klopp singing on here and the posters could have a full dedicated page for Klopp! And if you want to make it more interesting appoint Ed025 permenantly on that page! 😆😆😆.

{Ed001's Note - and you wonder why people give you stick. Sometimes you are an arse, a complete arse.}

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16 Oct 2017 22:32:24
😂 Ed001 I would love to go for a pint with you and Harry. Now that would be a good night out and carnage to watch.

{Ed001's Note - Harry is a nice guy in real life mate. A genuinely nice guy.}

17 Oct 2017 07:28:16
Ed001 I was being serious. Would love a pint with the pair of you. You for your knowledge and Harry for his controversy and the way he sticks to his guns.

{Ed001's Note - I am not sure he would be so controversial in person, he is a good guy though. You would have to drink my pints for me. Actually not sure if Harry drinks either?}

17 Oct 2017 09:39:21
Well only if Ed025 joins me Jayden 😁😁. He for me is a must. My only weapon against the big boys here 😆😆😆😆.

{Ed001's Note - Ed025 is a great guy to have a drink with anyway mate, you would love him in person.}

17 Oct 2017 09:54:23
Harry stick to his guns? His mind changes faster than the wind today.

17 Oct 2017 16:21:58
It's a date boys 😉😂.

16 Oct 2017 13:57:27
To all my fellow posters in Ireland. Get safe lads. It's getting windy out there.

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17 Oct 2017 10:26:53
Indeed, really bad over there especially since some have lost their lives, bad here too, I almost got hit by a tree branch this morning walking to the shop.

16 Oct 2017 09:22:08
Good morning Eds. I haven't posted anything for some time. Is it true Liverpool are being sold AGAIN.? If so what are the likelyness of of a high roller purchasing us and bringing us on par with some of the premiership big boys when it comes to Spending power.

{Ed001's Note - we are not going through a sale process right now that I am aware of.}

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15 Oct 2017 21:09:33
Someone asked earlier who could replace Firmino, his work ethic and add goals.
Icardi could do it. He is a beast of s striker and he is a proper captain!

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16 Oct 2017 00:20:24
Firmino isn't a striker though is he Harry mate. I too would love to have Icardi in the squad, but to replace a Sturridge/ Ings not Firmino.

16 Oct 2017 06:02:58
Firmino plays that role and leads the team! The other two are bench warmers. So if you buy a striker then Firmino goes to the bench!

{Ed001's Note - please not Icardi, the guy is an arse. It would be nothing but trouble to have him in the team. It would destroy any hope of a collective team spirit.}

16 Oct 2017 06:12:16
He wanted a move and did exactly similar to what Rose did the other day and since he was made the captain he looked extreamly comfortable. He is s like a Diego costa / Suarez. Never give up attitude and he is a real fighter. Excellent technique, scores all types of goals. Physically built perfect for the league.

{Ed001's Note - nothing to do with wanting a move, he is a troublemaker and was causing issue after issue when he wanted to stay even. He was disruptive in the Argentina squad as well. He is like Costa you are right, for a few games a season he is fantastic, but he spends large parts of each season being a liability too. The guy is one to steer well clear of.}

16 Oct 2017 07:52:39
Ah I was unaware he is another fool, I know he's a good player but we don't need another Sakho, Balo or Suarez in the team.

16 Oct 2017 11:54:09
It was me that asked the original question and having seen the responses and thought about it I would swap Firmino for one of 2 people.

Lewandowski or Dybala.

I don't think either would realistically come but they are maybe more attainable than Messi/ Neymar/ Ronaldo/ Bale etc if we are challenging for the top honours any time soon.

Aside from those I don't think there are any players that we would have even an outside chance of getting that would be better than Firmino for us.

{Ed025's Note - i can name about 50 dawn, as strikers go hes just behind niasse mate, i can name 3 goalies who are more prolific than firmino..

16 Oct 2017 12:28:36
That's very funny Ed025!

Or alternatively, if you're being serious, seek help, you're not well.

Niasse is awful, and there may be 50 players in the world who can shoot at the goal better than Firmino but very very few who are better all round than him. I agree he needs to up his goal return, but the rest of his game is top class.

{Ed025's Note - hes a good footballer dawn of that there is no doubt, you just need to keep him well away from the opposing area mate, hes like a jigsaw...goes to pieces in the box..

16 Oct 2017 19:12:53
Motd fever by harry as usual.

17 Oct 2017 00:03:04
Harry I wonder if you can get a team of 11 out of your little man crushes?
Icardi and kovacic are obviously in it. See if you or the other posters can do a full team. Lol.

17 Oct 2017 00:03:48
Timo Werner for me. Drop Firmino into midfield and play werner up front.

16 Oct 2017 21:45:26
Hi Ed’s, i’d like to make this my official application to become an Ed. Like Ed25, I too believe Tony Hibbert and Leon Osman to be the greatest football players of the 21st century. We both also know that football is that game where you chuck and ball about and try to put it down over a line to score. We also both know that England will win the next World Cup and think the FA is being abit harsh on that Stokes lad, Everton players do worse in most Merseyside derbys and get a pay rise.

{Ed025's Note - your application is being processed as we speak KK, with you being a liverpool supporter we may have found a position for you in our ancient history department, your brief will be to research the past when liverpool actually challenged for the league title, you will be asked to wear gloves at all times as the parchment these facts are written on is very delicate, a few books we would like you to review would be "how to become a pro footballer when you have no talent" by jordan henderson...."how to get through life without smiling" by steven gerrard and "cannibalism for beginners" by luis suarez, we look forward to meeting you and wish you every success with your interview...yours fraternally ED025 peoples club editor..

15 Oct 2017 19:00:44
Eds has there been any interest from liverpool in uraguayian CB Mauricio Lamos? He looks a good player, not ready made but bags of potential ans already an improvement on what we have. ans while i've got your attention what do you think of jamaal lacelles.

Cheers for the work.

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