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22 Mar 2017 23:06:25
Ok is genuinely a wish list (please eds realise this won't happen but can be hopeful! ) but for the summer:

Jimenez
Insigne
pereira
Laporte

If you counter that with expected outgoings think we could have a fairly alright net spend and a fantastic squad.

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23 Mar 2017 08:08:40
Insigne would be an excellent signing, Laporte would be bloody amazing. Not sure I see the point in signing Jimenez, and can't judge Pereira considering I've never seen him play.

23 Mar 2017 10:56:58
Isn't insigne a pain in the backside? I'm sure the eds or someone on here said he is. I may have read wrongly though.

23 Mar 2017 12:18:17
i think you might be thinking of icardi, kolo.

23 Mar 2017 17:39:53
Yeah think it's icardi you are referring to and is more than a pain! Remember reading insigne had to fight to get his chance as a footballer because he was written off by numerous coaches for being too small. tbf imagine there is truth and that as his game has been gradually improving which normally is a result of hard work!

With with studge looking like going would leave only firmino as the only reliable forward (origi too young and ings is a doubt) so getting a player coming towards their peak would be great and personally think there is a good player in him and would offer a more physical threat up top.

22 Mar 2017 20:27:15
Lallane all over germany!

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22 Mar 2017 07:46:34

With eds brilliant sharkopod up a while now would people like to put up there predicted/ wanted match day squad might pass a bit of time on a boring international week cheers lads.

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22 Mar 2017 08:56:42

karius

taa matip gomez milner (juanma)

henderson wijni lallana

mane firmino coutinho

I really would like to have a squad to play some time togehter without significant changes all the time.

I think they'll get stronger playing more time together.

22 Mar 2017 11:06:49
I would go with this;

wijnaldum Origi Mane
Courts Hendo Firmino
Milner Gomez Matip Clyne

I would like to see Moreno given a chance in LW (i believe his natural position) Think his pace there would be great but we will probably never know. Surprised Klopp hasn't tried it as he likes to play players out of position like Rogers, only position we don't have a choice with is LB sadly however Milner is doing a decent job and has adapted well.

22 Mar 2017 19:03:16
From the various list of potential targets if heard from this site, I'd like to see us line up as follows next year (ie fairly minimal changes to first 11)

Karius
Clyne - Matip - Lovren - Pereira
Llalana - Hendo - Gini
Mane - Firmino - Coutinho

Subs -
Ruffier
TAA - Gomez - Klavan - Milner
Woodburn - Can - Grujic
Dembele - Origi - Brandt

We'd also have a few youngsters coming through (Ojo, Wilson, Juanma) + Ings recovering from injury to round out the squad

That's just 4 players coming in, with Sturridge, Lucas, Stewart, Moreno making way and a bunch of loanees (Markovic, Wisdom etc. ) that can also be moved on for the sake of their own careers

Only other thing else I could be really tempted by would be a top CB/ CDM to replace Lucas/ Stewart but doesn't sound like Klopp thinks we need one and can only probably see that happening if we sell Can.

22 Mar 2017 22:35:33
Predicted:

Pickford,
Milner, Matip, Lovren, Pereira
Hendo, Wijnaldum, Lallana
Mane, Firmino, Coutinho

Wanted:

Butland
Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Gomez, Tierney
Hendo, Paredes, Wijnaldum
Mane, Firmino, Coutinho.

23 Mar 2017 09:17:56
everyone post bar mine has Courts on the wing, just a sin that lol. He is a waste of talent in that position.

23 Mar 2017 12:22:49
i'd switch to a 4321

Karius

TAA Matip Lovren Pereira

Hendo Wiji

Mane Couts Brandt

Firmino.

23 Mar 2017 16:58:00
Ron, really Couts on the wing? He hasn't played well there at all I'm surprised you'd keep pigeon holing him in there.

22 Mar 2017 10:23:52
Coutinho is a not a winger, Never was and never will be. It's the manager who played him there coz we never had a genuine left winger like Mane ( Over the years Kuyt played as a RW ) .

Coutinho is an actual midfielder who has this real quality to play brilliant at multiple position unlike Firmino or any other player at the club.

He is an actual midfielder precisely an attacking midfielder who likes to have the ball from the deep position to run towards the opposition and whenever he has been deployed in the middle on the left hand side of midfield he has excelled beyond words.

Coutinho is head and shoulder above Lallana and always has been the best player at the club.

We genuinely need a left winger because we don't have one and not because Coutinho has been poor playing out of his position.

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22 Mar 2017 17:27:48
So why won't Klopp play him there Harry?

22 Mar 2017 22:09:43
Coz we have no Left winger, And Klopp cannot fit in any other player on the flanks.

23 Mar 2017 16:02:22
But he isn't scoring from the wing, hasn't very many assists so he isn't working either surely. Shouldn't Origi be tried there or one of the U-23s or Moreno even just to see if they could contribute more and then allow Couts into middle.

22 Mar 2017 10:15:00
RIP Ronnie Moran. The term legend is often over used, but this is a man who started his LFC playing career in 1952, and retired from the club in 1999 as one of the most successful coaches in the history of the game. Half a century of sacrifice for Liverpool FC.

You'll Never Walk Alone, Ronnie. Thank you for everything.

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20 Mar 2017 21:22:19

I see Ed 002 is of the opinion that a director of football would be the way to go. Whilst it doesn't seem that any such appointment is imminent, can anyone think of good candidates? Monchi?

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20 Mar 2017 21:47:46

Zork would be a great shout I think.

Not just because of the Klopp link but because of the fantastic work Dortmund have done getting some of the best talents around, they never seam to pay too much over the odds and they find some absolute diamonds. Zork is a major part of that.

20 Mar 2017 22:17:46

I think we should have gone all out and pushed for the bloke at Sevilla. Monchi I think? I think he was going to leave at one point for a new challenge if I remember rightly and his work speaks for itself.

{Ed002's Note - Monchi would be a great choice but I would expect Klopp to walk if he came. Monchi understands the game, youngster, the transfer process and how to ease players through at the right time - he is in that way the absolute opposite of Klopp.}

20 Mar 2017 22:29:39

Thanks for the reply Ed002. Was I right in remembering he was close to leaving at one point? Did we speak to him? Or is it just wishful thinking on my part?

{Ed002's Note - Everton were, not Liverpool. Real Madrid and PSG were the others.}

20 Mar 2017 23:47:22

Hi Ed002, do you expect Klopp to walk if Monchi came, or if any DoF came in? I seem to remember Klopp working under Zorc but I freely admit I have no clue how that relationship worked out.

{Ed002's Note - I don't see it as an issue that we will see happen.}

21 Mar 2017 05:50:14

At the risk of sounding daft Eds, but what is the difference between a "Director of Football" and "Sporting Director". Michael Edwards was appointed as Sporting Director, I believe. How would those two positions coexist and who would have the final say on transfers. Sounds like FSG is rebuilding a transfer committee again, without the title.

{Ed002's Note - Put aside the job titles - it is the roles the are responsible for.}

21 Mar 2017 21:57:31

Maybe Matthias Sammer is ready to start working again? That would be great, we have lots of Germans in our staff, and he would be brilliant. :D unrealistic, i know.

22 Mar 2017 07:10:21
It'll be someone we've never heard of. Who had heard of Zork and Monchi (sounds like an 80's kids tv show) before they became DoF's?
The basic point ed002 has highlighted is we have been poor as a football club for many years at various tasks including : transfers (buying and selling), coaching (basic things like catching a ball or being organised for set pieces) and youth development (they get stuck at ages 19-21), loans (generally our players come back worse than they left) . The list continues, but the point is it needs someone who understands the game to sort it out.

21 Mar 2017 11:28:27
What's the opinion on playing Milner at CB. He doesn't have pace but none at the club has pace. He will have some protection from midfield and an actual partner might help him at the back.
He is better than Lucas playing at CB.
He can't read the game I know but who could except Matip?

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21 Mar 2017 11:42:19
Hope we don't sign this Lorenzo fella. Looks like he starts drinking at 11am.

21 Mar 2017 13:51:30
Nice one MK that had me in stitches.

21 Mar 2017 20:49:51
HaHa MK 😄.

23 Mar 2017 07:58:42
How do you make the judgement that he is somehow better than lucas at CB harry? Just have no clue where you came up with this on. Maybe we should go all out and buy lloris and play him in midfield cause he is good with his feet for a keeper.

20 Mar 2017 16:36:39
Yesterday showed the difference between a world class striker and a mouth piece like Lallana up front. Plain and Simple.

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20 Mar 2017 17:43:07
Well aren't you just the ray of sunshine everyone needs in their life!

Lallana missed a sitter that he and everyone knows he should have scored

Does Aguero score every easy chance that comes his way? Or Messi or anyone else you can think of? No of course not

You should get behind them and support them.

20 Mar 2017 19:56:26
Strange how you blame our attacking midfielder for not being a striker.

20 Mar 2017 20:49:21
Danray mate I think you will find that Augero was just as wasteful or were you referring to some other world class striker?

20 Mar 2017 23:54:00
Miss aside lallana was quality yesterday you chaffinch.

21 Mar 2017 08:10:06
I'm pretty sure I was a bit more brutal than chaffinch. who decides what words to change them into cos I'm going to use that now.

21 Mar 2017 10:47:45
Lallana is not a striker Danray. He ran half the pitch on the counter. But that was a horrendous miss without a doubt.

21 Mar 2017 23:44:47
Every single player has missed a chance like that. Whether it's in training, in the park with your mates or in a top tier match.

Ronaldo missed a half yard open goal while at United. I remember Torres missing a few complete sitters, same too with Suarez. All 3 of these players have all been labelled world class at some stage in their career.

Schevchenko missed a complete sitter in the Champions League final if you remember?

22 Mar 2017 17:30:48
But poor old Lalanna really seems to get the boot from a lot on here, some real vitriol towards him at times.

20 Mar 2017 13:59:14
I don't understand why people moan about any player when we played so well yesterday but instead of having ago at firmino an coutino how about original when he came on he was completely useless as he has been all season like he not bothered.

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20 Mar 2017 14:50:39
So you moan about other people having a moan about the players - then have a moan yourself about a different player? ;)

20 Mar 2017 16:52:55
I'm just saying at least them two try something you can't say bout origi.

19 Mar 2017 21:51:59
Match review ed if you managed to catch it.

{Ed001's Note - Match Review - Man City v Liverpool

Difficult game to review, Liverpool were playing a more patient game than their usual, while Citeh looked a bit low on confidence which resulted in them missing a few chances. Also, the ref was particularly bad, he is just not good enough to get big games, he bottles decisions all the way through and always looks to take the easy way out. Fernandinho had one of those games when he could have committed murder and still not picked up a card, Silva got away with a couple of very bookable fouls after picking up a booking and that is not even mentioning the possible penalties for both sides and the assault by Yaya which could easily have been a red. Probably should have been a red, as he was not going for the ball. I could go on and on with his poor, weak, decision making, as there were plenty of them. Oliver is a truly terrible referee who should be in the lower leagues. While he did not end up ruining an entertaining match, in the end, it was more despite him than because of him.

Liverpool played a more patient game, dropping off and waiting for the right moment to press, once the defence had got back into position, rather than the high gegenpress the moment the ball is turned over. While that makes the team more defensively solid, it does mean that it gives up possession for long periods of the game, as the team is busy setting itself once the ball is turned over, allowing the opposition to control the ball and get themselves more comfortable in possession. With a team like City, whose first thought is to maintain possession, always looking to go sideways or backwards initially, then it works well, but a fast break team would be at your throat immediately, so I hope this was just particularly for the City game.

I have to say Liverpool were aided by the decision to start with Yaya Toure, he was, by a huge margin, the worst player on the pitch. He was ponderous, weak in possession, his passing was poor and he generally offered absolutely nothing to them. I really hope he stays for another season, if that is how he is going to play.

Simon Mignolet - I am not sure he had anything to do, other than pick the ball out of the net and a few clearance kicks and backpasses to deal with. City were poor in front of goal and he will not get many easier nights than that, in all honesty.

Nathaniel Clyne - A couple of times he got back well to retrieve the ball, but they were mostly as a result of him being caught out of position and chasing back to recover. If he was offering more to the attack, then you can excuse him being caught out of position due to being involved. When you offer as little as he does going forward, then you have to be better defensively. Towards the end, as we were struggling, he sat in deeper and cut out a few balls, that is when he is at his best, when he can use his pace to anticipate a ball or run and get in to steal it or make a challenge.

Joel Matip - I am not keen on him being partnered with Klavan, there does not seem a very good partnership there against fast, nippy strikers. The offside line was good, catching Sterling out a lot by just holding it well. However Matip was poor last night and we were lucky they did not punish us due to poor finishing. He was caught out badly a few times allowing attackers to get goalside too easily.

Ragnar Klavan - Klavan has a tendency to chase players all round the pitch, if they pick up the ball while he is facing them up. Not sure what the thinking is there, as it leaves us disorganised while Can drops in and there is a gap left in midfield. Still, in the main, City never really attacked the gaps left, so we were not caught out.

James Milner - a very mixed game for Milner. At times he was excellent, at other times he was slow and caught out, like when he could (should?) have given away a penalty against Sterling. He is exposed by a team which uses the width, like Clyne, and his deficiencies are that he still thinks like a midfielder. It is very rare you see him drop off a pacy attacker to give himself room to react, he is always edging forward to run in behind them. I do not understand why the Citeh fans booed him from the kick off though, odd one that. Excellent penalty.

Emre Can - one of our better players last night. In a lot of respects he can take a lot of credit for Yaya's attitude, as he imposed himself on Yaya physically early on and Yaya seemed to realise he was in for a tough night and gave up.

Giorginio Wijnaldum - very mixed performance, some sloppiness in his play mixed with some excellence.

Adam Lallana - he needs a Rafa-type talking to, similar to when Gerrard was initially in the team, as he is just running for the sake of running a lot of the time. He could be far more effective by doing less, but more targeted, runs. He works his backside off in games like tonight, but there is little intelligence in his work. His runs tend to be of the order of 'the ball is there, I will run in front of it' type. That is not always the best run, especially when you are running ahead of a player who is looking to run with the ball, as you are just closing down the space for him to run into. This is a big part of why he is so ineffective against the weaker teams, as they are looking to drop in and fill gaps anyway, so it makes it easier for them to do so. He needs to play in support of the attacking trio, rather than trying to insert himself inbetween it on every attack. Oh and that miss! Oh well, at least he got into position to miss it.

Sadio Mane - first half he was excellent but he tired in the second half. However, the City players were terrified of his pace, so it made it very difficult to make a change when he was tiring. Could easily have had a penalty, refs are very fond of telling us that contact does not have to be deliberate to be a foul, and Otamendi pulled at him as well as catching his legs. We do look a totally different side with him.

Philippe Coutinho - showed signs of getting back to his best last night, really starting to get into his stride now. Against a side which gives him more space, he will punish them.

Roberto Firmino - had an excellent game, except for his finishing. He really needs to work on that, as he could have given us a very comfortable win with better finishing.

Divock Origi - replaced Coutinho in the 73rd minute and disappointed me with his performance. He never got into the game, looked a bit half-hearted in his efforts at times. He did cover well defensively at times, providing protection, but was poor going forward and looked a bit sluggish, when chasing a through ball, allowing Otamendi to get across. Otamendi had already shown he had no pace and it was in the 92nd minute or so, his legs should have been tiring, but Origi did not quite have the pace to make up the ground on him. That seemed a mental thing to me, Otamendi went wholehearted and determined, while Origi seemed to see Otamendi and decide to just pressure him rather than looking to try and burst past him and take any possible clattering that would follow.

Lucas Leiva - only came on for Firmino in the 89th minute and had little chance to really do anything.

Overall - decent performance which, on another day, could easily have been 5-5 as 1-1. Or 5-1 either way. So many missed chances, it just shows how weak both teams are defensively.}

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20 Mar 2017 07:20:57
Thanks for the match report Ed1. regarding origi he seems to be going backwards in his development, he needs games but I don't see see him ousting any of the front three so maybe a loan next season?

{Ed001's Note - I don't think he is going backwards, he is just a youngster who needs time to develop.}

20 Mar 2017 09:31:28
I wasn't able to watch because it was 3am local time, but bloody hell, I watched the highlights I am gutted we didn't win that game. City had good chances too but we had a few more, and a lot of them were before City even properly got into the game.

That miss from Lallana is inexcusable. He gets paid to hold his nerve a lot better than that. Generally, I'm having a good day today, but every time I think of this match I feel a little bit depressed because we now our top 4 position is in United's hands and not ours.

20 Mar 2017 13:53:57
Thanks ed that was extremely insightful.

{Ed001's Note - thanks dil.}

20 Mar 2017 15:02:17
Its very simple fix for origi.

Stop assing around with your shorts.

Literally ed watch the games this season and jist do a count for us -if your lost for something to do during the internationals haha - and watch how many times he can be running in behind, attacking a player, needing to move for a pass and all he's doimg is pulling his shorts down so he looks stylish. Ibe started doing it aswel. And there not fully focuses on the match and what's going on around them. Its driving me insane. Haha.

{Ed001's Note - I have never noticed that.}

 


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