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06 Jan 2018 20:47:58
well its over and if the club is ill prepared its the height of stupidity, what i do think is that we have the replacement for couts already, I think its time for Firminio to step into the role I really think he's capable maybe go for a hard working real #9 (even tho if we don't im more than happy with Firminio in there at #9)

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1.) 06 Jan 2018 21:38:05
I disagree, Insane. IMO, Firmino is the most gifted at playing the no. 9 position the way Klopp wants it played. If you play him in the no. 10 role, he won't be able to get the likes of Mane and esp. Salah into the positions they get into to score the goals they score. Also if that was possible, don't you think Klopp would have seen that and played him there? Oh hang on a minute, he did.

In 15/ 16, he played Firmino behind Studge, Benteke and Origi at diff. times and clearly, it did not work to Klopp's liking as he has since changed it. IMO, leave Firmino where he is and try to replace Cou's contribution creatively. No need to reinvent the wheel here esp. since it has been done before and Klopp did not like it, clearly.


2.) 06 Jan 2018 21:38:09
Dolberg dolberg dolberg, firminio dropping back can't see why not.


3.) 07 Jan 2018 22:20:07
Clearly, you did not read the part of my post where I mentioned that Klopp already tried Bobbie behind the striker in 15/ 16 season and to him, it was not good enough hence, he changed it and moved Bobbie to CF. That will not change REGARDLESS of Dolberg, Laudrup bros. or any other Danish player you come up with.


 

 

01 Nov 2017 21:47:30
hey edo1 was looking through your chat sites and was wondering would you consider doing one for fantasy nfl maybe not the most popular thing in uk but i know a lot of people who participate.

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{Ed033's Note - if you (and others) can go on our NFL rumors we can discuss this Fantasy NFL chat.


1.) 01 Nov 2017 23:50:29
nfl, really? no offense but its boring.


2.) 02 Nov 2017 08:03:30
It's not boring- it's just a different sport and an education in time management.


3.) 02 Nov 2017 09:27:22
Its really boring, and the officiating is horrendous! I'd rather watch baseball.


4.) 02 Nov 2017 09:29:13
And the worst thing about it is the name. How on earth can you call a game where the ball is their hands for 95% of the time FOOTBALL? Just hilarious, but not in a good way!


5.) 02 Nov 2017 09:36:46
All team sports have their individual attractions, the NFL is all about highly coordinated flashes of intensity. If you can appreciate that then you'll like the sport, if not you'll find it dull.


6.) 02 Nov 2017 15:24:43
I've enjoyed watching edited NFL matches, just the game itself. Can't spend watching 4 hours of a sport for 1 hour of actual play, which will involve maybe a third of that time actually doing things.


7.) 05 Nov 2017 10:07:48
Putney is correct here lads. Though first off, they mainly use their hands, and play with an egg. No feet. No balls. Not football.

Personally, i hate watching American HandEgg. However, I do like seeing the highlights because it cuts out the hours of adverts and analysis crammed into 15 minutes of actual play. Those 15 minutes are actually spectacular displays of skill, athleticism and tactics though. There are players in the NFL who could bench press Sam Allardyce, stand up, and then beat Salah in a 100m sprint. It's scary to watch at times.

Everybody has a sport they love though, and HandEgg is no different. I like Tennis, F1 and Golf. Most people would say they're boring too though!


 

 

01 Nov 2017 17:08:14
Got a bit of a topic for discussion guys:
Lately Im seeing posts saying we miss Adam Lallana and tbh Im unsure about this because in a perfect world if all squad is fit I only see him as an impact sub, my reasoning being he is an attacking midfielder so our current attacking f our would be, Mane (left), Salah (right), Firminio (through middle), Coutinho (centre) like a diamond formation of a front 4, I can't see him replacing what should be the 2 more disciplined midfielders. So what you guys think is he a starter or is he an impact sub.

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1.) 01 Nov 2017 18:01:35
I'd like us to go back to the midfield of henderson lallana and Wijnaldum . That got us top of the league last autumn.


2.) 01 Nov 2017 18:21:16
so then hugh which one of salah, mane coutinho and firminio you drop for that to happen.

{Ed001's Note - has to be Coutinho, he has been, quite frankly, terrible since he came back this season.}


3.) 01 Nov 2017 18:37:39
Rotation for different games, but if everyone was fit and available, and it was a big game, then salah would be a great supersub.


4.) 01 Nov 2017 18:54:27
Salah sub? Hilarious! he would be leaving in 2 minutes if that was to happen! He has been our best player this season, followed by Firmino, Mane has been injured and when he came back from injury last time he was a shadow of the mane we know, Coutinho has been terrible and has already left the club mentally.


5.) 01 Nov 2017 19:10:48
The issue is getting them all fit and getting them on the pitch. The more players to pick from the better. I wouldn't say we are missing Lallana too much but he did do quite well last season. No doubt when we get Lallana back someone else will get injured.


6.) 01 Nov 2017 23:13:26
Lallana takes Wiji's place, not one of the forwards.


7.) 01 Nov 2017 23:21:43
Hugh, I stopped reading when you said our current main source for goals would be a good super sub. Give your head a wobble lad cos you need to do some more critical thinking. Lallana is a huge miss for us as he gives us more creativity in midfield and is the trigger for the press. Our mid's are too similar and that is where Lallana offers something different that the pothers can't.

Cou has not been good since he came back even tho he has score 4 goals in all comps. this season. He is clearly not at the level he was last season before his injury where he was simply tearing it up. He has to do better or Lallana should take his spot in CM next to Hendo/ Can and Wiji.


 

 

27 Sep 2017 11:56:50
Had a conversation this morning about last nights game and the conversation came to Sturridge but an interesting question arose, now its a game of what if, so hers the question.

If Sturridge never had an injury would we be calling him a world class striker today ( now i know in the premise of reality we wouldn't have got him from chelsea for 12m if he hadnt been a risk but leave that aside)

so Eds and fellow posters what's the opinion.

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{Ed002's Note - He left Chelsea because he wanted to play as a centre forward and Chelsea had Drogba playing there (and he had suffered some injuries) - although no one denies that on form he is a good player. This (not being at CF) made him sulk and he was sold. Liverpool fans are obsessed with terms like "world class" without really thinking what it sensibly means. If you take it as being a squad of 25 players and one coach picked from around the world to play in the Intergalactic Super Cup, then I doubt anyone but his mother would include him in this "world class squad".}


1.) 27 Sep 2017 12:38:55
Ed who would make your 25 player squad for the Intergalactic super cup?

{Ed002's Note - I will tell you what, given that there is little transfer news right now, we can have a thread a day where we can gradually build the 25 man squad and a couple of coaches that we can get folks agreeing would be the best. We can use the Banter page for this and it will be one thread per day - I will dictate the formation of GK, RB, CB, CB, LB, DM, DM, RW, CM/AM, LW, CF and Coach. The squad will be buit around 3 GK, 2 RB, 4 CB, 2 LB, 3 DM, 2 RW, 3 CM, 1 AM, 2 LW, 3 CF and 2 Coaches.

I will start the first thread today - allowing people to sensibly discuss and agree three goalkeepers. Posts which are trying to mess up the thread will be deleted, as will anything mentioning any of the Liverpool goalkeepers.}


2.) 27 Sep 2017 13:12:56
Out of interest Ed002, which coach would be the one you would go for in such an Intergalactic Super Squad?

I won't bore you by asking which 25 players would go in! Just the one manager who you see as the world's best will do!

{Ed002's Note - I will tell you when we get to coaches.}


3.) 27 Sep 2017 18:11:54
I think to say there are only 25 world class players on the whole planet is a bit too elitist. Not knocking you ed02 my mate its your opinion. I called Hendo an lallana near to world class when I was getting carried away a few weeks ago so you can see our definitions are miles apart!

People talk about world class but the term "Form" is rarely mentioned. Even the very best players, like Bale, have bad games. Or even bad seasons. Ronaldo, he has poor matches, where his pass are yards off, his runs are too early.

So your undoubtedly world class player can play poorly. And on the same evening you could have Bournemouth's josh king scoring two absolute worldies and getting the most beautiful assist. In the paper king got a 9 and Ronaldo got a 6. It's not like fifa where you have a set skill level. Like the eds say, football is a transient thing and in a way form is too.

Between August and December in 2016 Adam Lallana was really really good. It felt like something was going to happen every time he got the ball and it quite often did. The only thing I would like to see more of from Ads is a more clinical finish. I think there are plenty of potential world class players.

We have one, nearly two and maybe a third but that remains to be seen, he has started very well, if he continues and ends up with 30 goals then he has to become a candidate for the elusive world class label.


4.) 27 Sep 2017 18:57:13
It is a good point about world class being a long term not short term thing. Without the injuries I think Sturridge would have been one of the best forwards in the world. World class is questionable. The 25 player squad idea doesn't work for me because it is possible for the 25 world class players to all play in just 2 or 3 positions. Personally I think world class should be judged against the past players and your true ability against them and your peers plus how they consistently impact the game. Ronaldo and Messi are world class, Rooney never was (and I've never understood why anyone thought he was) and I don't think Sturridge would have been.


 

 

23 Sep 2017 23:01:17
Watched the match in the pub as usual, had a good sort of day (atleast we won) Had 5 bets Kane, Lukaku, MOrata, augero and Salah, so day paid for itself with a few quid left over, but dam watching the match among a load of fans the tension is palpable even when we are winning 2-0, so ill give you my summary of the game.

Simon Mignolet: im over him now its like watching saloms lot when you was a kid and the young brother scrapes the window and im scared all over again, he never looks comfortable, I know you can say he saved the penalty but all keepers study penalty takers and Vardy always goes to the middle so chances are if they remember what the study they save it

Joe Gomez: the sooner he plays at centerback the better it will be for him he's learning bad habits, it might be the system we play he is always trying to nip in first, he and Moreno need to learn as a defender defending comes first but he was solid enough except for the time albrighton skinned him.

Alberto Moreno: its hard when your best performing defender is Moreno, i know he might have done better for their second but so should others have

Joel Matip: Wasnt that bad today not marvellous sill looks a bit lazy but that be how he moves that big frame mad one vital block and i must say marking vardy ain't easy

Dejan Lovren: a friend best summed him up after the 15th minute he looked at me and said he thinks Lovren plays for the bookmakers, how an international can't pass a ball gets attracted to the ball like a moth to light and he's like a kid you tell not to eat sweets always makes the wrong decision

Emre Can: not an overall bad game for Emre good energy covered well enough but too many unforced mistakes its likes playing chess and thinking of what he wants to do 3 moves later

Gini Winjaldum: Really going through a bleak period looks unconfident and still slowing the game up too much

Jordan Henderson: I know ill get hell for this but i still think he snot at his best might have been best of midfielders today that's not saying much yes he scored, yes he covered plenty of ground but still going to get someone murdered with his underpassing and always closing our guy with the ball down needs to give more options.

MIDFEILD: on a sidenote, i know it looks a bit chaotic how we press but there is a method to the madness, one guy presses the player with the ball and the other pressers cover the passing lanes cutting his options of a pass down forcing the turnover, so when our midfielders are ontop of each other as they have been lately the get played around like what is happening frequently lately

Phillippe Countinho: It was a bit like the waterboy when the guy is holding his nipples when the ball is in the air you just knew he was scoring that freekick, i think he is trying hard to prove himself to everybody and is showing flashes i believe he is still a bit off full fitness he became the top scorer of goals from outside the box today with 16 goals

Mohammed Salah: I don't mind him missing sitters i just feel he will get enough chances and will score eventually, must say his header was class

Roberto Firmino: Hard working as usual unselfish work rate, its hard when your playing up against two monsters like morgan and Maguire (impressed me a bit) when your just 5'11".

SUBSTITUTES
James Milner: Id rather see Grujic get the chance but shows good energy and his experience was needed when we looked to be getting the gitters
Daniel Sturridge: showed some good flashes and worked as hard as he can done well. Only one criticism and its not his fault his lack of energy off the ball when Leicester had it made morgan and maguire look like Lothar Matthaus striding out with the ball
was there a third sub can't remember

OVERALL
I think we need go out and buy some seat belts at least until January its going to be a roller-coaster ride, we always look dangerous but we take too many chances in defence, and no matter what the experts say i don't think our defenders on the ball are as comfortable as people think, our midfield need to stop acting like they are in each other pockets, yes you need to work like a unit but you can't get played through as easy as it happening because they are on top of each other.

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1.) 24 Sep 2017 00:19:25
I remember Saloms Lot it scared the crap out of me wasn't David Sole in that? Oh and your right so does Migs but let's get over the ref rant people we won.


2.) 24 Sep 2017 02:20:23
Leicester are a team of thugs and cheats and the manager is an absolute idiot. Klopp has been getting a hard time lately which I personally think is well out of line. But Shakespeare subbed the two players who can deliver good bills into the box in mahrez and Albrighton. What a mong. I think Leicester may have nicked a point if those two had stayed on. It's all very well bringing on tall forwards Shakespeare but not for the players who supply them!

Migs gets a lot of stick and rightly so but he saved a penalty and won us the match today. He has earned a respite from abuse for a few days. Hendo has taken a lot of stick lately and I thought he was sensational. A bit unsure with z couple of clearances but overall would have been my man of the match after pipco. That is why we told Barcelona to jog on.

Amazing player, the space he makes for himself. Danny s was a great sub. Kept the Leicester back four thinking and was unlucky not ro score. Look it was a win. If every game ended like that we would win every trophy up for grabs. Thought matip was ok today, never a free kick, vardy looked for it and won.


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2018 11:08:29
oblak plays behind a team that sets up defensively with good strong natural defenders so as good as he looks he's not as much to do as others.

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14 Jan 2018 10:21:21
is he FORE next season.

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27 Dec 2017 13:36:47
i thought i read that de vrij signed a new contract not so long ago.

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07 Dec 2017 21:38:25
i think the erratic performances of henderson deem he is not an automatic starter, but i like the guy he comes across pretty good guy and he does work hard for the team but i think it all goes back to the injury to the foot when he went for the operation the recovery didn't seem as smooth as was predicted and he seemed to lose a step, this could be in his head because the injury is always in the back of his head as it was said it could be managed but not totally healed but it could also be because the role he is being asked to play does not suit him either, just my 5 cents worth.

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20 Nov 2017 14:40:07
talking about money again only leads to disagreements let's just say there are now other options open to coutinho whom seems to have made it clear he wants out.

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15 Jan 2018 04:52:22
I f shay given hadnt mentioned about the hands being down none of you experts would have mentioned it its like mottd fever he got beat at his near post shouldn't have happened but hey so did ter stegen tonight.

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14 Jan 2018 23:45:37
your over complicating it lads its simple, just keep winning our game then who cares what the rest do as we play the three of them in our remaining games, play for second and go mass every day to pray for citeh to mess up hey dreams come true sometimes or so people say.

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14 Jan 2018 23:37:00
I thought gini had a good game still a bit too ponderous on the ball but the guy who has impressed me most not just today but in last spin of games is robertson for me he put a great shift in and was my man of the match but everyone put a hard shift in and apparently can and salah where suffering from an illness.

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14 Jan 2018 16:50:08
yes karius fault at goal but when will joe gomez stop getting caught ball watching.

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08 Jan 2018 14:30:46
so speaks the spirit of shankly eh waro.

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