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26 May 2018 05:26:16
My Fellow Reds,

Who are we? WE ARE LIVERPOOL

We shall conquer what NO team in England has conquered
Defeat will not NOT be in our creed
Tonight, we will believe what others have doubted
And reign hell upon our adversaries

Who are we? WE ARE LIVERPOOL

We acknowledge that our opponents and doubters don't expect us to triumph
But our hearts will not yield to weakness and doubt
We will draw strength in numbers
And together with hope, we will fulfill our destiny

Who are we? WE ARE LIVERPOOL

We will NOT retreat nor surrender
As that is NOT an option
For our opponent dos not know our heart nor our history
Many say we were lucky
We say luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
Tonight, we seize THAT opportunity

Who are we? WE ARE LIVERPOOL.

My fellow reds, whatever happens tonight. Real Madrid should know and understand one thing. That till the last man, till the last minute and till the last second, We fight! We fight! We fight!

LET'S RIDE!

BRover

1.) 26 May 2018 06:01:41
Rover you’re getting me pumped up my man.


2.) 26 May 2018 06:44:21
Channeling your inner William Wallace there buddy! Love it.


 

 

21 May 2018 22:58:20
Just read a brilliant interview that Hendo gave to Oliver Holt of the Daily Mail. I propose that everyone check it out. It will blow your mind.

BRover

1.) 21 May 2018 23:19:12
Incredible rover! Cheers for the heads up! I’ve always believed, the more people you have that are committed to the cause and are less obsessed with personal triumphs leads to the enviable of team glory. At then end of that this is a team sport and I think hendo really does reflect what is going on within that camp. Let’s all appreciate what is going within Liverpool football club because I truly feel blessed.

Enjoy people.


2.) 21 May 2018 23:21:00
* inevitable.


3.) 21 May 2018 23:39:15
Football players are not emotionless robots with nothing going on off the pitch? That is mind blowing.

If my dad was going through cancer treatment, I probably couldn't get out of bed.


4.) 22 May 2018 03:17:24
What a superb attitude to life and football. Utterly deserves the captaincy and any successes that come his way. Love to see him and the team immortalised this Saturday.


5.) 22 May 2018 07:19:02
We are so lucky to have Jordan Henderson as our Captain.
What a true professional and inspirational young man he is.
He’s a perfect role model for youngsters,
I hope his father continues to recover from his illness and that he sees his son lift the Champions League Trophy on Saturday.
To lift the trophy and then captain England at the World Cup would be a fantastic honour for Jordan and thoroughly deserved.

YNWA.


6.) 22 May 2018 07:24:04
Aren’t Daily Fail articles behind a paywall?


7.) 23 May 2018 13:43:32
wow, I'll be made up for hendo if we win, it will be even sweeter if he can assist or score the winning goal.


 

 

14 May 2018 20:00:17
Hi guys,

Great result last night and happy we have no injuries and will be ready for the all out assault on the CL trophy in two weeks. I was at the pub watching the game (Rooster's Pub in Brussels. Come on down when in Brussels) with other LFC fans and low and behold, I met a Norwegian named Ole Hermann Borgan. Don't know who he is? He is a retired FIFA ref/ lino who retired in 2006 and is a MAD Liverpool fan. I could not believe my luck. We had a hoot of a time. We spoke about all things football.

I asked him if he had reffed any LFC games in Europe and he said he had reffed 5 of them. He said he was the ref during the LFC v Roma game in the 01/ 02 season at Anfield. I asked him how it is to ref a game where one of the teams is the one you are mad for. He said it was quite easy cos as a ref, you shut it out and do your job. I then asked him who was the best player he had ever seen. He said he had watched a tonne of them (BUT to him, Zidane was petry in motion.

Now while all this is happening, our friend Kevin Friend is having a true stinker at Anfield and when he did not award LFC a pen in both situations, HE WAS LOSING IT. I then asked him about refs in England and if he rates them. Borgan said that he thinks English refs are arrogant and are not focused on actually doing the job. They are focused on being seen as tough or trying to prove a point that they are in charge instead of just being a co-stakeholder in the game and trying to do the best job possible.

I then asked him about the Roma pen with TAA and he said that had that been him, he would have awarded a pen, end of. HOWEVER, he said since the ref had a clear view of it, he thinks the ref interpreted that TAA did not deliberately raise his hand up and had no chance of bringing his arms down cos he was doing his best to try and get in front of the shot (part of the hand ball rule, btw) hence, did not give it. I agree cos I thought the same thing when it happened BUT Go figure

Sorry for the long post BUT just wanted to share that with you guys. On to Kiev where we #TakeThe6th!

BRover

1.) 14 May 2018 20:29:58
Great post and different from the usual stuff, thanks for sharing. And hard to argue with him regards English refs I've been astonished with some of the displays this season and absolutely no explanation for it! (untouchable) attitude by the majority.


2.) 14 May 2018 20:31:07
Thanks for sharing mate.


3.) 14 May 2018 20:45:26
I am fed up with the different interpretations used in the media with regard to handball.
Handball has to be deliberate. If it's accidental it's not handball.
Pundits saying that the ball traveled a long way or his hand was raised just cloud the issue.

Against Roma Trent was lifting his foot to block the ball so his arm came up as well. In my opinion it wasn't deliberate and therefore not a pen.
Having said that the alleged handball by Duffy? (not sure it was him) yesterday was a misjudgement by the defender. Even though the ball had traveled a fair distance, I still don't think it was deliberate and wouldn't have given the penalty.

Problem is its open to interpretation and most people would give both penalties. Don't think VAR will help either because again it's all down to intent and how the referee interprets the situation.


4.) 14 May 2018 21:02:32
Am just fed up with how a ref stands 10 feet away am seams to go blind to a handball. Just waves it away like it never happened and am not just talking about Liverpool the refs are so poor now it’s embracing.


5.) 14 May 2018 21:04:56
Thanks for the responses, lads and MAD props to the Ed's for posting it cos this moment was one of the best football moments in my life.

Never Forget, I am near certain that the refs and pundits in England, have next to no clue about the footie rules so just make them up to fit the narrative they wanna propagate, IMO. Also the reason I asked him that was to get not just the perspective of a FIFA ref BUT also one from a non English person or pundit and he gave his honest opinion on the TAA issue.

Also since I speak French, I watched a lot of French punditry on youtube about the Roma game and a couple of them were the only ones who offered the scenario you, myself and Borgan did on TAA about him not deliberately raising his hands up while lifting his foot to block the shot. That is as UNDELIBERATE a handball as you will find and tho some of them wanted a pen, a couple others said it was not cos that was the only reason the ref did not give it cos he was right on top of the play.

Also, I agree that VAR would not have helped in the Brighton incidents as well cos I thought the tackle on Salah was not a pen cos Duffy got a decent touch on the ball. Had that been given as a pen against us, I would have been losing it. True LFC fan tho, Borgan disagreed and wanted both his pens. and wanted them NOW, lol. YNNWA!


6.) 14 May 2018 21:18:23
Longthing, it was what Borgan was referring to as in, English refs are too full of themselves, too arrogant and always wanna prove a point that they are in charge, all things that have NOTHING to do with the game they are officiating. They should be focusing on reffing the game and being dedicated to do the best job they can instead of worrying about all this other nonsense. Their priorities are outside of the game itself, I think.


7.) 14 May 2018 21:40:04
Totally agree. I think the worst culprits are the ex referees they get on to analyse the refs performance. They justify bad decisions like the Kane offside/ penalty or the Solanke handball/ goal v West Brom. It then becomes widely reported as a correct decision which just confuses matters.

I didn't think it was a foul on Salah either, but it was very similar to a penalty Migs gave away where he miskicked a clearance and took Vardy out. He got the ball but apparently "not enough of the ball"🙄.


8.) 14 May 2018 23:06:18
For a handball to be considered deliberate, the ref will take into account whether the hand was moved towards the ball and also whether the arm was placed in a an unnatural position. For example, Harry Kewell handball in the world cup vs Ghana. He had his arm out from his body - I agreed with the decision.


9.) 14 May 2018 23:15:15
Hi Longthing 76 - embracing is what Jurgen Klopp does - EMBARRASING is what referees do.


10.) 15 May 2018 11:13:50
Thanks for the great post BRover, lovely story.

What surprises me most is that I don't see many people talking about the "handball" by Klavan for Roma's last second penalty. I thought that was an absolutely atrocious decision as his hand was by his side, not raised, not in an unnatural position, and he certainly was not deliberately blocking the ball with his hand.
All this subjectivity about what constitutes handball is why we sometimes see defenders trying to block crosses with their hands behind their backs (which is clearly unnatural and I hope they are wearing groin guards when they do so) .

The handball rule clearly needs to be clarified.

{Ed001's Note - in Spain if it hits the hand it is adjudged to be handball, hence why players who played in Spain put their hands behind their back. Perhaps that is the only way to clear up the matter?}


11.) 16 May 2018 07:54:02
Thanks Ed001, I was unaware of that rule in Spain. I guess such a rule would help put all subjectivity out of the window, even if it does seem rather silly. I'm almost surprised we don't see more players in Spain trying to kick the ball against defenders' hands when they're in the penalty box - it might just be easier than aiming for the top corner! :P.

{Ed001's Note - they did do that for a while, hence why they all put their hands behind their backs.}


 

 

10 May 2018 10:40:27
Just read that the Real honorary president Gento (great player), said that the CL Final "would be a piece of cake". In American sports, we call that "Bulletin board material" meaning, that quote is posted on the bulletin board at the entrance of the team's dressing room. This way, EVERY player and coach sees that disrespectful quote and uses it as fuel for their fire in the coming game. Good job, Sparky a. k. a Gento! Keep talking that trash. YNWA.

BRover

1.) 10 May 2018 11:02:53
That quote has triggered me.


2.) 10 May 2018 11:03:30
Remember my dad telling me that Malcolm McDonald from Newcastle did something similar in the 1974 fa cup final. Was saying he was going to destroy Hughes and Thompson that they wouldn't be able to handle him. Won that final 3-0 if I'm not mistaken let's hope history repeats itself lads.


3.) 10 May 2018 11:19:16
I remember before an NFL game btw the New England Patriots and the Pittsburg Steelers where before the game, a Steelers defensive player (Anthony Taylor) said that the Pats were overrated and could be gotten at. Remember, the Pats were undefeated and the game would be in NE where they NEVER lose. Tom Brady thanked the player for offering you guessed it, Bulletin Board Material.

What happened in the game? Pittsburg was blown out of the water and the Pitt defensive player was ridiculed as he was beaten for a touchdown pass amongst many other things they did to him. The Pats later said they decided to not just beat Pitt, but to humiliate both them and that player for running his mouth. Gento is now Anthony Taylor and Klopp MUST do all they can to make him eat his words w/ o any chasers or bbq sauce.


4.) 10 May 2018 11:32:03
The last time a Madrid president opened his mouth about the pending outcome of a Liverpool-Real Madrid face-off and wrote us off before a ball was kicked we humbled them 1-0 on their turf and battered them 4-0 at Anfield. That President didn't keep much job too much longer.

May history repeat itself and fate judge him just as harshly as his predecessor. No tact whatsoever.


5.) 10 May 2018 14:08:29
That quote reminds me of the time you thought you were going to trample over us at OT in March🤦‍♂️😂. But seriously, you do have a very good chance against Referee XI (Madrid), just need to exploit their overrated defence.


6.) 10 May 2018 16:28:41
Scholes, I do not recall John W Henry, Tom Warner, Mike Gordon or whoever saying playing you guys at OT would be a piece of cake. Fans? maybe but that is just banter. I get your point tho.


7.) 10 May 2018 16:52:44
He got his baking wrong.

He said “piece of cake” but he meant a piece of pie - humble pie.


8.) 10 May 2018 18:33:23
Serious banter*.


9.) 11 May 2018 17:21:35
Still banter scholes serious or not, that’s called rivalry ;)
the clubs staff/ board should be respectful of each other and leave the rivalry to the fans!


 

 

09 May 2018 21:40:55
David Wagner, I LOVE YOU!

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23 May 2018 22:13:44
What Salah transfer issue are you referring to, OP? Ed02 gave us news, that's all. RM can't get him and LFC aren't selling regardless of price so just chill out and enjoy the masterpiece that Salah and his mates are producing on the field.

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23 May 2018 22:11:29
Spot on, Barnes. Never seen Ceballos play BU I watched some youtube highlights and a DLM, he is not, I'm afraid. Maybe others can help me here.

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18 May 2018 20:47:32
Son is the ONLY player I would take from Spurs. He is just brilliant.

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08 May 2018 18:02:26
Redmond? Yikes!

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07 May 2018 19:41:17
Shaquiri? Anautovic? Zaha? Good grief, what is going on here? As Ed said, these guys are not good enough to even be the backup to our backups. Instead of these guys, I would just stick with Harry Wilson and the other kids. Like Epic, I do like Knockaerts and to some extent Izquierdo even tho, they may still be raw.

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25 May 2018 22:01:46
PeteCo like LFC, the Eagles had the better squad at almost every position bar QB and that was what the Pats were banking on., that Tom Brady would play a blinder which in fact, he did stats wise BUT the Eagles had the better and more balanced team so in effect, you are correct. It also helped that Eagles QB Nick Foles played the game of his life that night in Minnesota too. RM may be relying on CR7 as their Tom Brady, I guess. I hope we get it done tomorrow night.

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25 May 2018 21:57:23
OP, there is nothing surprising about what Klopp said. He is only adhering to the oldest tenet in football management which states that "Players win games and coaches lose them" or as a French coach once said, "When we win, it's the players. When we lose, it's me". The prob. is that it is those managers who are too spineless and insecure to accept responsibility, that blame others for their own mistakes or failures as Mou and Fat Scam always do cos well, nothing is ever their fault. As someone once said, "If you don't take responsibility for your own actions or failures, you will NEVER be good at your job". I do expect Mou to blame Luke Shaw for any of his probs next season even tho Shaw won't be at the club next year.

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25 May 2018 21:13:09
Great convo, Ed and Zed. Zed, I watch a lot of our rivals play and GK's as well cos that is the topic. Stats do not mean much cos as Ed said, it leaves out SO much that it is not worth even discussing them. As a GK, I agree with you that Karius has a lot of tools that even DDG did not have when he came to Utd. What he needs to improve upon is his presence, his reflexes and develop stronger wrists to allow him to punch the ball much further from his goal. He is rough around the edges and those need to be fine-tuned. I remember Ed01 sayin that Karius is a "very competent" GK which is a pretty good floor to improve upon cos IMO, Pope is not as competent as him esp. judging by the fact that he plays in a very defensive system at Burnley while Karius plays in a very open system. Stats won't show you any of that now, will they? Nice discussion tho. I truly enjoyed it.

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25 May 2018 21:01:03
RM were pretty lucky vs PSG at the Bernabeu cos the third goal should not have stood due to a foul on the PSG defender Kimpembe but that's just my opinion. Another thing is that RM struggled vs Spurs who pressed them and even they can't play the press in the way we do and in diff. variations either.

All that said, RM can win this thing just as much as we can and that in itself is an achievement cos their team has been around for about 5 years 9th hundreds and millions spent while ours has only been around for half that time with a fraction of their spending. But as Klopp says, good tactics and preparations are the greatest equalizers and that is how we got to the final. A bit of luck does not hurt either.

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25 May 2018 20:55:51
Spot on, Drogie. As much as I want LFC to win Ol' Big Ears, I will be proud of our boys for giving us the BEST ride of me lives all the way to a European final. The fact that this team is not even the finished article yet and has achieved so much in such a short time, is breath-taking in itself and I am confident that this will NOT be the only CL final we get to. Till then, Give them hell and leave it all out on the field with NO regrets. #TakeThe6th!

BRover