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12 Nov 2018 19:36:04
This one is for Ed25. Just want to say a HUGE bravo to your boys vs Chelsea last night. I felt they were brilliant, brave and determined. Your boys did ride their luck a bit and Pickford had a blinder BUT all in all, their perf. merited a point.

On another note, I have NO idea why Silva keeps playing Richarlison at CF. He is simply not a CF and does not play like one. I know he is young and still learning the game and the position BUT it is simply not working. Might as well give Calvert-Lewin a go if Tosun is not the guy Silva can count on. Congrats, man.

BRover

{Ed025's Note - cheers brover, we are lacking a top draw CF mate and richie has stepped up because we have a plethora of right sided wide men in the squad, hes done well to be fair and silva seems to have given up on tosun and feels that DCL is not up to the task at this time, we are improving though and maybe just maybe we will give you a game when we meet on 2nd of december..peace..


1.) 12 Nov 2018 21:16:22
Ed25, Maybe give us a game at Anfield? No way, man. I fully expect you to give us much more than a game come Dec. with the perf. I saw last night. You guys were able to match Chelsea's tempo and intensity and the off-the-ball work was tremendous out of possession. Maybe you know this already but I'm not one of those LFC or footie fans who just think all their team has to do is show up and the win is theirs.

As someone who played diff. sports (esp. football in the amateur leagues in France), I know how it is and how you have to first off, work hard, be humble, respect your opponent and compete for the right to play and win. It's going to be a derby game and I FULLY expect Everton to play out of their skins and match us step for step and if we want to win, we're going to have to earn it. Walcott is shocking, btw.

Lastly, A special mention for young Lookman. That boy is special and I felt he helped stabilize the midfield with his close control and ability to hold on to the ball. Saw him a lot at RBL (while watching Keita) and he was great there as well and RBL wanted to keep him too. Cheers, man!

{Ed025's Note - ademola has the talent brover but there are certainly question marks over his temperament and attitude, four successive managers have failed to give him a proper spell in the side which cant be a coincidence, i think hes very talented though and still have high expectations for him mate, im looking forward to our meeting and just hope we do ourselves justice.. peace..


2.) 12 Nov 2018 21:42:51
Gotta say I'm more worried about playing your lot Eds025 than utd next month, after your performance against Chelsea. Kudos.

{Ed025's Note - yeah i thought we done well IDLLK, the reds will be a different kettle of fish though as derbies now seem to be over emotional and the football not great to watch, but lets hope that with us playing some nice stuff and liverpool being a top side that the fayre on offer is better than usual mate..cheers..


3.) 13 Nov 2018 10:08:22
Everton showed that if Jordanigho (spelling) can be stopped so can Chelsea.


4.) 13 Nov 2018 13:51:34
It may well be an attitude problem with Lookman, but its curious as to why it wasn't an issue in Germany. Same goes for Sancho.

A lot of these young lads seem to develop attitude problems from lack of game time. They want too much too soon, but when they have first time options in other countries, its easy to see why. Especially from a development standpoint. I'd start Lookman ahead of Walcott, or at least loan him back to Germany.

Agree on the CF front, who would you go for? Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - we were after giroud in the summer eamon but his wife would not move up here so thats a non starter, myself i have always liked arnautovic but it looks like chelsea are going to pinch him from west ham, ben yedder would be a good option as well but how realistic that is im not sure mate, i still have high hopes for lookman and hope he knuckles down and gets a place in the side ahead of theo, but the manager sees these guys day in day out and i trust his decision..


 

 

06 Nov 2018 22:14:09
Hi Read,

Well it seems neither Napoli nor PSG are interested in taking command of this CL group. They drew again so LFC are miraculously, still top of the group. So we live to fight another day. That said, we have issues in this team not just in midfield but collectively in terms of cohesion in all phases. Pretty sure Klopp knows that as well so hopefully, we can rectify it by Sun cos we are going to need to be WAY better than what we produced tonight. YNWA!

BRover

1.) 06 Nov 2018 22:31:51
Napoli are top of the group BRover.


2.) 06 Nov 2018 22:36:53
If we beat PSG at theirs and Napoli beat red star we both qualify.

If we lose to PSG pretty sure we qualify if we beat Napoli at home by more then 1 goal.

Tonight’s result isn’t ideal but it is still in our hands, keep the faith.

Tonight was poor but red star were well up for it, they deserved the win but I have no doubt we are capable of beating PSG on their patch. They need to win and it is going to be a very exciting game.


3.) 06 Nov 2018 23:46:45
Just saw that, KBL. Thanks.


 

 

05 Nov 2018 18:27:17
Hi Reds,

Just saw a stat. With the Start we (and Chelsea) have made this season, both teams would be top of the PL in 98 of the last 100 league campaigns. I was flabbergasted. This just goes to show us the MAMMOTH task we have on our hands, to depose City of the title as well as showing how great City were last season raise the bar this high. So let us keep that in mind as the season goes along. This is not your grand father's league campaign anymore. Peace and Love!

BRover

1.) 05 Nov 2018 19:32:44
I expect them to have a wobble. Someone like Barcelona will spank them in the Champions League and it'll knock them off for a few draws and losses. It's inevitable that somewhere they'll have a dip, it's just weather us or Chelsea are right behind them to capitalise on it, or we've both fallen too far behind a great team.


2.) 05 Nov 2018 22:04:54
LFC8, I totally agree with you. City will not be winning all their games this season, that much we know and if they do, then they deserve to win the PL hands down. It will be up to us to capitalize on their stumbles whenever it arrives. Hopefully, starting this weekend vs Utd.


3.) 05 Nov 2018 23:19:52
Agreed guys. Don’t forget City have been at this level for over a season now they will definitely have a dip at some point. Plus they really want the CL so if they do go deep into it they’ll take their eye off the league just as we did last season.


4.) 05 Nov 2018 23:22:39
I can say without doubt I have never supported utd but I think I will be this weekend. Other than that I would hope the 2 of them loose.


5.) 06 Nov 2018 01:42:28
I don't think City will have a dip at all.
Pep is a perfectionist and he has cultivated that team with ready made replacements for each position, which are also very good players, in case if any injury or loss of form.

This idea that it is not okay to loose a game or wven have a bad game, regardless if the opposition is better or not.
This is a mentality instilled by managers like Jose and Pep.
However I get the impression Klopp thinks it is okay to loose to a better team because they were better.

Whereas Pep and Jose - they do not belive in this concept. This is why they are happy to drop star players or sub them even if they do not play well in 1 game.

{Ed001's Note - every team has a dip and Pep's teams have traditionally hit a wall of bad form every single season. It is simply impossible to play well each week. The problem last season was that the opponents never even tried to attack them when they were having off days. Seems everyone is of the same ludicrous opinion you are, regarding Pep and Jose. Utter nonsense, even Pep's own words when we beat them last season should have told you that he was quite happy to accept defeat against us and his words about us this season, that he accepts he can't take us head on and beat us.

The cult of Pep is growing and you are another of the converts that falls for the hype.}


6.) 06 Nov 2018 07:10:32
'The problem last season was that the opponents never even tried to attack them when they were having off days. '

Very true that Ed and they had plenty of off days last season. People talk at times like they're untouchable, they aren't. Like you say if they were attacked more last season it'd of been a different story because at the back they can't handle it.

{Ed001's Note - Pep's teams have always struggled against teams that attack them. If Everton had not got a lead and sat back, they would have beaten them.}


7.) 06 Nov 2018 09:01:48
I agree Ed. Pep has to have credit for being a fantastic manager and he’s answered his critics from his first season at City emphatically. They are a juggernaut that will be hard to stop.
Fact is though no team in the history of football has maintained the level City are at for more than a season. They have to have a drop off at some point. They might still win the league anyway.
On a side note this idea that Pep is the attacking messiah is ludicrous. I was at the city game this season and if Jose has done what Pep did that day he would’ve been slaughtered. It was definitely anti-football.


8.) 06 Nov 2018 10:53:37
Agreed Ed and as would many of other teams last season. Too many teams are afraid of attacking them so they seem to sit back too much. All I want to see is more teams going for it against them instead of just trying not to concede! Try and bloody score because against them if you try you will. In my opinion we have a better defence and a much better keeper then them, we can handle teams attacking us, they can't.


9.) 06 Nov 2018 22:05:43
Spot on, Ed. People also forgot that City won at least 4 games with the near final kick of the game, which proves that they are not infallible and can have off days. This just shows that Ed is correct that Pep's teams often hit a wall during the season esp. cos he does not rotate. If teams only got after them more, they would crumble. Pep was complaining last season after they drew at Burnley, of not having enuff players in his squad. The irony was deafening on this point.

Like the Ed, I ain't drinking the Pep Koolaid either as he himself does not believe in his own philosophy when he goes against the ONLY manager that has the guts to attack him and in the process, hand him his arse on a plate majority of the time. Pep literally admitted to being able to cope with Klopp's teams and did a Tony Pulis (by his own standards) and parked the bus at Anfield.

The media ate that stuff up, saying how he was "cautious" as they always do to protect their messiah. No, he was not. He played not to get beat, something he himself said he would NEVER do. Eto'o and Ibra were right. Pep is a hypocrite. Our job now is to make sure we capitalize whenever they fumble cos they will with Pep in charge.


 

 

04 Nov 2018 13:10:39
Hi Ed01. If you are about, can you give your opinion on this theory? I see people going on about why Shaq did not start of if he should or should not have started. I personally thought Klopp got it right and chose the right strategy BUT that's just me.

I saw a Stoke fan say online after the game that Shaq is very good in a team that is dominating possession and constantly on top during a game where the pace is slow and controlled. However when games become a bit to frantic and relentless (like it was yesterday), he can struggle to cope. Do you think this is the case and do you think it may be while Klopp may not start him in games like this? Cheers, mate!

BRover

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, I do think that is a problem for him, like most creative players. They need to get on the ball to make things happen and it is difficult to get on the ball when it is like that. That is why Torreira was the outstanding player in the game.}


1.) 04 Nov 2018 14:10:41
Lucas Torriera! 🙌🙌🙌 I am a fan.


2.) 04 Nov 2018 14:14:33
Fabinho in time will be better.


3.) 04 Nov 2018 14:18:37
Brover you are clutching at straws now mate to try and prove that you are right. It’s your opinion mate so who cares if others hold a different one. If I remember rightly Klopp hasn’t started Shaqiri in many games not just in games like this. Klopp seems to like a conservative midfield 3 and even started to push Coutinho forward at the expense of Mane to keep 3 conservative midfielders in there. Your stoke fan comment made me chuckle. How does a stoke fan know that he is good in a team that dominate possession. It’s harldy like they were possession kings more like hoof ball kings.


4.) 04 Nov 2018 14:20:27
Adding a bit more on Torriera ( watched a few bit at his time at sampdoria ) he was tipped to replace Jorginho at Napoli before arsenal offered more money.
Excellent player. One of the best tackler around. He is lightning quick and speads the ball brilliantly. Made look an acreage Xhaka a world beater. Arsenal’s best signings in years!

Are there anyone better than him? Yes
Ndombele at Lyon.


5.) 04 Nov 2018 15:53:59
Fillet Weld! Is that Harry under another name?

{Ed0333's Note - and he would have got away with it if it wasn’t for you pesky kids...where’s that line from?


6.) 04 Nov 2018 15:55:18
You are right JK. He has no stoke fan mate 😂😂. Trying to bring Ed01 into the whole Shaqiri debate so that other posters just accept his opinion!


7.) 04 Nov 2018 16:11:07
Scooby doo.

{Ed0333's Note - gold star that man


8.) 04 Nov 2018 16:48:24
I was thinking Top Cat.

{Ed0333's Note - nope scooby doo it is Rover. I think I still fancy Daphne what a hottie.


9.) 04 Nov 2018 18:32:50
He is the sort of player who can exploit space and nick a goal towards the end of a high energy draw. Good move to bring him on. My heart sank when matip came on but we didn't concede. I would have liked to see sturridge.


10.) 04 Nov 2018 22:56:47
JK23, I asked an honest question and I got the answer I needed from the Ed who was nice enuff to give me/ us of his opinion. Stoke barely ever played hoofball when Mark Hughes was there except when they were chasing games so there goes your theory. As for the rest of your post, that's some rant mate. Take a day off, man. You sound paranoid.


11.) 05 Nov 2018 14:12:47
JK23, what's your beef? I asked for more info based on something I saw on social media and Ed01 responded. It was NOT to prove anyone right or wrong as I'm not interested in that. I wanted to know why Klopp does not start Shaq as much as many would want (based on what I saw someone say) and Ed has given his reasons and opinion on the issue. You sound bitter and paranoid, man. It's just football and opinions. Isn't that what you always say? I propose you follow your own advice, bro.

I propose you take a chill pill cos I'm not as obssessed over things as you are, clearly. Oh btw, here is the youtube link: https:/ / www. youtube. com/ watch? v=K3y6FAzx0Dc (start from 2:40). Enjoy the clip. You and your buddy Fillet Weld (Harry in disguise, really) just embarrassed yourselves on the internet. Cheers, man!


 

 

28 Oct 2018 00:18:34
Great win and top of the PL for now so all good on Merseyside. So all I want to ask the "Couch Psychologists" and "Mind Readers" out there who seem to think they can tell what Mo Salah is thinking every time he scores a goal, is did Mo Salah celebrate loud enough today after his goal? Did the width of his smile meet your expectations or does he have to improve? Please, let me know.

BRover

1.) 28 Oct 2018 00:41:19
love it BRover, it will be a new conspiracy theory this week.


2.) 28 Oct 2018 02:30:20
BR. from a purely objective and scientific analysis (because this is how the analysis was done, not base on observation and speculation) .
no, his celebration wasn't up to mark.
the grin wasnt wide enough, didn't show enough teeth.
he didn't stick out his tongue in a teasing fashion, hence, the lack of authenticity.
there wasn't a fist pump and a skip to express his elation.
all in all, a very professional celebration.
oh, and he didn't quite celebrate enough after assisting Mane (he must be gutted Mane didn't miss) .
off to Madrid in Jan.
=D XD.


3.) 28 Oct 2018 03:30:55
Looks like it's now mane and the unsigned contract. Is he happy? Is he sad? Does he like the waterboy or will the waterboy push him out the door?


4.) 28 Oct 2018 03:58:34
Oh Mark. Pls don’t state the obvious. The fact his goal was created by Salah didn’t go down too well with him. Worse, Salah scored. Plus he recently missed a pen while Salah scored. Then we have Lovren who is best mates with Salah while Mané is always alone. Without bringing in the water boy, the space he is occupying in the locker room and the food in the canteen, that’s enough reason for him to sulk and leave. Gone in Jan too.


5.) 28 Oct 2018 04:17:35
If any player isn’t happy being worshipped by us fans while earning stupid amounts of money they can trade places with me and work 48 hours a week in a rubbish hole of a factory for less than 1% of what they’re earning now I’ll gladly trade places.


6.) 28 Oct 2018 09:47:17
I'm in stitches, lads esp. with your response, Sgynwa and Scootinio. Keep 'em coming, guys.


7.) 28 Oct 2018 09:56:42
Having pondered the OP I have come up with the following equation which we can use in future:

MS skip x SM smile/ OT hug (x2) = BS.


8.) 28 Oct 2018 10:07:11
Salah happy cos he accepted Madrid offer mane unhappy cos Salah got his move no place left for him😂😂😂
On a lighter note what a waste of money on Allison does nothing could've had an extra outfield player!


9.) 28 Oct 2018 10:13:46
I'M LOVIN' IT, Lads!


10.) 28 Oct 2018 10:36:49
Hmm I’m still thinking salahs goal to smile ratio needs some work on the training field.


11.) 28 Oct 2018 12:53:47
In all seriousness, is manes new contract offer still unsigned?


 

 

 

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23 Jul 2018 14:23:22
Spot on, Ed02. I am not impressed with him either esp. with the fact that Lovren is the better CB and he would not partner Lovs over VVD either as VVD is clearly light years away from him as well. Makes ZERO sense to me as well.

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23 Jul 2018 14:21:02
Meyer is not good enough for us anymore. He would not get in ahead of Fab, Naby and Hendo anyway and for a squad player, we already have Gini, Milner and Lallana.

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18 Jul 2018 19:59:12
Vida is is decent defender and nothing more. Lovren made him look very good at the WC cos well, he can't pass out the back, lacks pace and is quite clumsy. Lovren was the one passing out the back and bringing the ball out towards midfield, something Vida never did (maybe he can't or was asked no to, I don't know) BUT he ain't nothing more than a flavor of the WC, something that will die down with time.

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11 Jun 2018 21:14:02
With Frankly, on this one. Pope is decent BUT plays in a defensive system and he is not asked to do all the things Karius is asked and CAN do as in play out the back, play the high line, sweep up, be proactive with the ball. We have no clue if Pope can do that cos he has not done that at Burnley cos he is not required to do that. IMO, if you cannot get a GK like Allisson who will sort the position out for the long term, might as well stick with Karius. The Pope' and Butlands of this world, are nothing but bandaids personally, I am not interested in.

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09 Jun 2018 18:53:50
Gibbs, it is not nonsense. What Corkycat is saying is correct based on the guidelines of the French Stock Exchange as well as the date the TW opens in France which is today, I gather.

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20 Nov 2018 22:37:00
Nice one, Ed.

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20 Nov 2018 22:35:49
Mark08, was that post directed at me cos I never mentioned any player's name in my comment?

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20 Nov 2018 22:32:33
Ed25, it is not about me thinking the sun shines about every LFC player's arse or don't give any Everton player any credit. On the contrary, I think some of your players are pretty good. I saw BRover post a while back about how good your lot played vs Chelsea and I agreed with his assessment.

I watched the game as well and Pickford, Bernard, Lookman and Mina had a good game and the overall perf. deserved a point by the team as a whole (Walcott is pants, btw) so you accusing me of being in a bubble cos I disagree with you or don't give any of your players credit (which just I did) is quite sad, really cos I never attacked you for giving your opinion.

As for Allison, I am not comparing him to Karius or Migs. He is light years ahead of them clearly so why would I compare him to them? I compared him to Pickford specifically (as that was the topic) and made valid points to support my opinion that they are in NO way similar in quality. Cheers, man.

BRover

{Ed025's Note - im not including everyone in that brover, some like yourself are fair and give credit where its due but some just cant say a good word about everton mate and i find that a bit sad, i try to be fair but with just a tinge of bias as is my want but have been complimentary to liverpool on the whole...and they call us bitter?..peace..


 

 

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19 Nov 2018 22:44:40
Harry, Fekir has dodgy knees so that's a NO for me so I'm cool with the club deciding to step back even tho, I rate him highly.

Also, I'm cool with not signing him cos he's not the only one who can play the no. 10 role out there. And as for whoever City are going to sign or don't sign? Don't know and most importantly, don't care.

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19 Nov 2018 22:40:04
Mark08, not sure what you mean by "our players are not good enough to keep the ball" whereas we have been ranked second (City is first) in terms of possession in the past two seasons. Secondly under Klopp, keeping the ball is a matter of strategy rather than objective as every man and his dog knows that possession means nothing if you can't do much with the ball. Vs big teams on the road, Klopp deliberately allows the oppo. to have more of the ball in a bid to counter them whenever we press high and nick it.

The full throttle football you speak of vs big teams, has only happened when Klopp applies this strategy. It's what he does even in his BVB days. Same in the CL where we pummeled Porto with less possession than we did. Also, watch our games vs City and the other big teams (bar Utd who park the bus) and you will see what I am saying.

BRover