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27 May 2014 16:39:19
Hey eds,

Just wanted to know whether the club are interested in getting both xherdan shaqiri and adam lallana


{Ed002's Note - I don't know but there is interest in both.}




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14 May 2018 15:07:34
Not too sure on Butland, a season or two ago I would have said yes as he would have been good competition for migs and I think at the time he would have eventually ousted migs just like Karius has done. Whilst Karius has improved a lot since coming back, I still think he’s error prone and could easily go back to being inconsistent, the same way migs would always do. Migs would be dropped, then as soon as he comes back he’s excellent for 4-5 games then becomes rubbish again. Karius has had one or two bad games since coming in as number 1 and I think Klopp has decided he’d prefer to improve him rather than get an established world class keeper. I think this is a bold decision and I respect it but it’s a huge risk when you’ve got a goalkeeping coach like John achterburg coaching these players. It’s clear that good goalkeepers have been coming in and not really realising their potential. I feel like if a Karius/ Butland combination took us to the next level Klopp would be rightfully branded a genius and recruitment would have taken a complete u-turn on what it was 2 seasons ago. But does a Karius/ Butland combo take you to a title, or even a title challenge? I’m not so sure. Of course people will point to the CL but I’m sure any educated football fan would know CL is a knockout competition and the league is 38 games. I think improving the defence on top of the improvements that have already been made will go some way to outweighing a risky Goalkeeping duo.

I’m by no means slating Butland or Karius, I think Karius has been a revelation and tbh I’d find it hard bringing in someone to take the spot from him but I feel like if we’re to challenge for the title within the next couple of seasons whilst Klopp is still here, do we wait and see if Karius takes us to the next level like we did with migs or do we go and get that GK outright.


1.) 14 May 2018 19:06:22
Kman92, I agree with your post, globally. I think Klopp has chosen Karius as the no. 1 going forward and is now looking for a no. 2 to either challenge him or improve him. Now, if that is the case why are we bringing in a similarly young, GK (esp. English) to come in and be his no. 2 whereas he may think Karius is not better than him? That is a GK controversy brewing right there and we are asking for it should Butland come.

Imagine a game where Karius makes a mistake (nothing wrong w/ that cos GK' make mistakes so nothing new here), can you imagine the media slating him and putting pressure on Klopp to put Butland in? I can. Why would anyone with a functioning brain, want that to happen? This is what makes this whole thing so strange cos it makes NO sense.

If we want Karius to grow, we need an older GK to mentor him rather than some young guy who thinks he's better than him, one who is English media loves and won't hesitate to "campaign" for him to start. I think Karius is a very talented, competent (Ed01's assessment) GK and if we want him to grow, Butland coming in would be a circus show, altogether, IMO.

{Ed025's Note - but it will keep karius on his toes brover and that is a good thing, familiarity breeds contempt and if karius believes there is no threat to his position then as sure as eggs is eggs his performance will drop, competition for places has and always will be a good thing mate..

2.) 14 May 2018 20:17:38
I agree with you on a good day, Ed25. However, I am not worried about what goes on on the pitch. I am worried of the media kicking up a stink in the scenario I mentioned. I may be wrong BUT what I am saying is not some kind of alternate reality. This could and IMO, will happen except we wanna believe that Karius will NOT make a mistake all next season which is not true.

{Ed025's Note - all keepers make mistakes brover, its how they deal with it that counts mate..



01 May 2018 21:54:27
I said it last week and I’ll say it this week, we would have much preferred to play Bayern. Their way of playing suits us a lot more, Madrid are a more pragmatic version of us, better defensively as well. They get the rub of the green all the time as well so we’ll have our backs against the wall against them. I know there’s some that fancy us against them in the final but look who they’ve had to get through and this is their 3rd final in a row, and klopps record in finals has been very poor. I’m not trying to be negative I’m trying to be logical, we would have definitely preferred Bayern and I think today showed that. They aren’t very clinical at all, have an even more aging squad of players, and have a very slow defence, we wouldn’t blitz then but we would definitely outscore them, Madrid? I’m not so sure.


1.) 01 May 2018 22:02:09
are you forgetting we have a semifinal to play tomorrow?

2.) 01 May 2018 22:05:32
I think you're giving Madrid a bit too much respect there mate. Defensively they are very suspect, I saw Marcelo up at CF numerous times in the game tonight. I think Madrid will suit us well personally, both their full backs will push up high and leave gaps for Salah and Mane to run into. As good as Ronaldo is, he won't press or track back as much as say Bobby for example. Of course they have very good players - Ronaldo, Modric, Isco even Ramos can be a rock at the back for them but Bayern were unlucky not to reach the final IMO. Also, some of the refereeing decisions that Madrid have got given during this run in have been scandalous, again, Bayern should have had a penalty tonight for handball. I would fancy our chances against Madrid for sure after tonight.

{Ed0333's Note - from what I saw John Ronaldo was tracking back and didn’t at all go awol defensively.

3.) 01 May 2018 22:20:58
Don’t agree at all. I’m glad it won’t be us facing Bayern as Bayern could have won by 8 tonight but they seemed to have no luck, however did demonstrate a huge amount of sportsmanship - knocking the ball out of play when yet another Real player was rolling around th pitch looking for an Oscar.

Real were awful and gifted the win by a terrible goalkeeping error. My concern with Real is they will cheat us out of a win in the final, they really do spend most of their time playing up to the ref to waste time and get players booked. I hope they up their game in the final but I can see some controversial incidents costing us, I just hope not enough to change the outcome.

{Ed0333's Note - It was James who put the ball out of play and his parent club is Real Madrid. You do the maths.

4.) 01 May 2018 22:22:55
If you're saying that Real Madrid is the favorite (against either Roma or LFC), then not too many people will disagree with you. But then so was that great AC Milan team in Istanbul. It's like Klopp always says. "It's football. Anything can happen".

{Ed0333's Note - why would they be favorites?

5.) 01 May 2018 23:13:19
If we get there, I'm pleased it's real. They were wide open at times tonight and sadio and mo will have an absolute field day against the fullbacks. Madrids luck can't last forever in this competition. Also Bobby will have Ramos chasing shadows. If we get there I'm confident.

6.) 01 May 2018 22:37:49
Can we pls, focus on the Roma game first before talking about the final?

{Ed0333's Note - spoilsport

7.) 01 May 2018 23:05:04
No favourites at this stage imo, it goes on who is better on the day. RM have a great history of winning in the CL, but so do we and I've not seen an attack like ours for years not to mention a proper team, a unit, not just relying on one player, we can be far more dangerous then they can be and we'll cause upset.

I said it weeks ago, we'll win the whole competition and I stand by it. The lads are all happy, they're motivated, we'll knock Roma out tomorrow followed by RM. People underestimate us so much, Real Madrid probably will and will come unstuck. I don't think many realise how good we are or how good we can be, we have weaknesses sure but so does every team.



25 Apr 2018 21:48:01
Just finished watching the real Bayern game and I really don’t know who I prefer. I feel like the way Bayern play is more suited to us, there was so much space in behind for Madrid to just counter attack and I feel we’re more of a threat on the counter. Real seem a more pragmatic version of us, which is why I wouldn’t prefer them. That said if we are to meet them In the final I find credence in the fact that we’ll have opportunities in the final third and we’ll most likely be more clinal than Bayern were today. On another day Bayern would have won that game quite comfortably but they aren’t the same Bayern, that’s why I’d prefer to play them. They also got the injuries as well so they are somewhat wounded. Even when you look at the benches, Madrid’s is way stronger and we tire towards the end of games and I can see them taking full advantage of that considering how much experience they have in this competition. Still game on in both semi finals though.


1.) 25 Apr 2018 22:15:03
I don't know what I prefer either. Live in your magical world where we are in the cl final or the real one where we are not? #choices.

2.) 25 Apr 2018 22:46:10
We’re not in any final yet boys long long way to go so keep your thoughts till we qualifyed please don’t test fate chickens and hatch remember.

3.) 25 Apr 2018 22:51:12
Just imagine Salah vs Marcelo, he will have a field day.

4.) 25 Apr 2018 23:03:47
Kman92, we are not in the final yet and neither is Real or Bayern and besides at this level, you play who you play and move on.

5.) 25 Apr 2018 23:03:50
Let’s get there and take each game as it comes.

6.) 25 Apr 2018 23:46:48
Can't believe Real won tonight! Bayern should have been up 3.0 when real scored to make it 1.1 Real were clinical and Bayern very wasteful. My concern with Real is they seem to be getting a lot of luck in champion league. like penalty in added time when they were hammered by juve. And tonight with amount of times they were torn apart and Lewandawski Ribery etc let them off the hook.

7.) 26 Apr 2018 11:32:06
Whilst the dodgy decisions are out of everyone's control their luck cannot last forever - we need to ensure we get through vs Roma and then we can start thinking about which team we may face and how we can deal with them. Should we make it to the final we will be there on merit and we will have nothing to fear from any team - no point worrying about opposition at this stage, only thing we need to be thinking about is our performance.



13 Apr 2018 12:26:02
Roma it is then, this is the only tie I would have wanted us to be at home for the second leg but nevertheless this is a team we should beat. I think it will be a close one, their style counters ours somewhat but we’ll have to blitz them at home at put the tie to bed in the first game as we did against Porto and city. I know they came back against Barcelona but lightning won’t strike twice, that’s if we get a healthy lead. Something tells me this is going to be really close and probably decided on pens.


1.) 13 Apr 2018 12:46:50
They won't give us many opportunities at Anfield they will pack out in narrow areas and give us the flanks and hope to go back to Italy in the tie.

2.) 13 Apr 2018 13:49:04
Roma's game may be similar to ours but so was ManC's. I think the first game is key. If they continue to play an open game, as they usually do, then we'll beat them and beat them resoundingly. If they close up shop and park the bus, then it's going to be a hard game for us.

Interesting point to note is that Thomas DiBenedetto, one of the 5 shareholders in AS Roma, is one of the partners in Fenway Sports Group, also.

3.) 13 Apr 2018 14:33:55
If you want to read something interesting about our semi with Roma,
go to their website,
it gives tickets for sale V Liverpool,
but this went up before the draw,
so they got the opponents correct,
they got the 2nd leg at home correct,
and they got the date correct,
maybe they just took a wild guess .

4.) 13 Apr 2018 15:26:35
Oh, I wasn't trying to imply anything beyond that 2 of the 4 teams have American owners who are shareholders in the same company back in the US. Just interesting 😉. It is highly interesting though what you say about tickets going on sale before the actual draw.



11 Apr 2018 16:55:06
In terms of the ties, obviously I’d say I want Roma in the semis by at the same time their playing style could counter ours quite easily. I feel like Bayern and Madrid will come out and play more so we could blitz them at some point during the tie. I’d still think we’re underdogs against anyone other than Roma but we have a genuine chance of winning it. I think if we’re to play Roma I’d want the second leg at anfield, if we’re to play Bayern or Madrid I’d want the first leg at anfield. Against the teams that are typically better than us, playing them at home first is actually better and the game against city showed that. That being said I’d hate to face Madrid in a one off game in this competition specifically.


1.) 11 Apr 2018 17:07:26
I hope we play Bayern at some point. Klopp would relish it.

2.) 11 Apr 2018 17:11:13
I'd take bayern or Real over Roma, Klopps beaten them both before don't forget.

3.) 11 Apr 2018 18:31:28
Don't forget, Spurs absolutely destroyed Real Madrid.
They're very beatable like anyone else.

4.) 11 Apr 2018 19:46:26
LFC8, that is a very diff. RM, lad as they were having all types of issues within the team and their form in La Liga was dreadful. If Spurs played RM now with a CR7 as rejuvenated as he is now, Spurs would not beat them. Juve did not have to break a sweat to beat Spurs at Wembley (esp. with a ref who denied Juve a stonewall pen) .

As for who we get, this is the semi final. There are know easy teams anymore so altho, I don't want Real right now, I would take it and move on.

5.) 11 Apr 2018 19:57:18
Bayern in the semi final
Real in the final. Just like in 81.




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22 May 2018 17:23:39
Not the type of midfielder we need and definitely need more quality than him if we are to push to the next level.




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18 May 2018 02:33:55
I agree with den, unless it’s a loan move for dembele then it could mean one of Salah or mane leaving and we know which is more likely. So the verdict is out on that but if it’s as an addition to the current squad then that would be awesome, even if it’s on loan. I just hope he isn’t a much ado about nothing type signing, he’s obviously got massive talent let’s see if he would realise it here.

Fekir will be the player I’d like us to pull off the most on that list, he’ll be relatively expensive and Lyon, as others have said, are notoriously hard to deal with but he would be a huge addition to the squad. He’s hard working, skillfull, fast and built for a counter attacking team. Only thing that could be a concern is his attitude but we said the same about mane and they were put to bed. I think in a team where he isn’t the star man he won’t have the attitude problem, I hope anyway.

Ceballos is quite underwhelming, considering this is quite a problem area for us, I’ve seen him a few times for Madrid and it’s clear he’s well out of his depth. Maybe it’s a case of not getting enough game time or the right oppertunities/ positions but I don’t think he’s the sitting midfielder we need. With can going, I thought this was a good chance to bring a midfielder with real denfensive capabilities and mindset, someone for the games where we need a clever head in there and I don’t think that’s ceballos. If we do get him I hope as with all transfers that I doubt, that I’m proven wrong.

Tarkowski I’m not sure about, I think like the others have said, he fits a certain system and I don’t think he’d fit too well in our attacking system being so used to a defensive one. Van Dijk needs a certain type of partner but there’s a whole host of names I’d put ahead of Tarkowski that would be better and cheaper. Again I hope Klopp proves me wrong

Butland only makes sense as a replacement for migs and Ward but nothing more. He could get back on track and really push to be the goalkeeper he once promised to be but with our Goalkeeping set up I really can’t see that happening. I think goalkeeper might end up being an issue for us at some point next season as it has for some years now. Karius has really pushed on but maybe I’m being overly critical in saying I’m not too convinced by him yet.

I think with some of these additions and Keita coming in we could challenge for the league next season. The area I’d really go above and beyond over out of the names mentioned by macca is a solid Cb partner for Van Dijk, I think with that, we would be able to counteract the need for a genuine sitting/ defensive midfielder. And go a long way to solving our defensive issues finally. Very excited for this summer.




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30 Apr 2018 19:43:04
So he’s not injured then is he lol. Good riddence.


{Ed001's Note - don't talk soft, what does this have to do with injury?}



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13 Jan 2018 11:03:37
First get hendo back fit and playing then look to facilitate something like that. Otherwise what’s the point, I don’t even think naby can play in the CL for us can he? If that’s the case keep emre, no point doing something else this month that’s illogical.




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11 Jan 2018 01:28:53
What? Since when did Rúben move to wolves? He had/ has huge potential, he’s should be playing in the premiership for sure. I wouldn’t mind him as can replacement.





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18 May 2018 15:06:08
I’d say sell or loan ings, I think he could still come good but not to a capacity where he would displace firmino. He could become an integral part of the squad but needs regular game time for next season, so either one would make sense for both parties.

I’d loan Solanke, he is a more natural striker, I rate ings and origi over him but I think with his age he could improve given regular game time at a decently high level. As you said, a loan to a top championship side or a premier league side would do him some good. Not sure what the future holds for him at Liverpool though, that is down to him.

I’d keep origi for next season, if that’s even an option as it was said he was definitely on his way this summer. If there’s a way back for him then I think he would be a good option off the bench, a better one than ings and Solanke have been. His natural attributes fit our system more than the others do. If he could just work on his movement and finishing a bit more then he has the future potential of being our number 1 striker, like Solanke.

With sturridge, my heart says keep, my brain says move on. I think his football career is all but done, a resurgence at any club would be a miracle for me, his body just can’t cope at this level. I’m not sure if the highest level of sports science somewhere in the world would even help him, but maybe they have something at some other club that would help him get on the pitch more often. I would love to keep him if he could actually play half the season, as he’s a better option than any others on the list. It’s a shame, but we’ve seen this in football many times.

I know nothing about Brewster but I know he’s highly rated so like you, if he’s willing to stay, might as well keep him as third choice in the first team.




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18 May 2018 14:48:28
Have to agree with MK here, no one is biting the hand that feeds them. Most if not all the users of this site appreciate maccas insight and he more often than not produces the goods along with the Ed’s. No ones complaining about the information and where it’s coming from. If people are criticising it’s towards some of the targets and like MK has said it’s usually constructive criticism, people have grown to trust the recruitment but how many times in the past have we been burnt by bad expensive purchases. Can you really blame people for having doubts? If we just sat there on this site and just said ‘well I trust the recruitment so I have no opinion on said player till they play for us’ then this would be one boring site with no debating going on what so ever. Player bashing is different from constructive criticism, no one has said any of these players are absolute rubbish but some people are doubiting whether some of them would really push us to that next level, what wrong with that?




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11 May 2018 16:38:13
I reckon we’ll at least get another season with him, Klopp will convince him to stay and try win the prem with us and I think he’ll bite at that chance. I can’t see him staying with us longer than two seasons though unless form and injuries go against him.




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01 May 2018 21:42:53
Uefa will get real or Barcelona over the line don’t worry, just watch the dodgy decision against us if we get to the final.




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28 Apr 2018 19:22:28
If anything I see us playing the same formation which I don’t think is a winning one. It’ll probably just about get us through though.