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10 Mar 2017 19:39:21
Not sure on the Chamberlain rumours.

He is clearly a very talented player and seems to be one of the more passionate Arsenal players. He was the only guy who turned up against Bayern. He is very versatile able to play basically any role in our team ahead of Henderson. At only 23 it is very typical of English football that he has already been written off. He has sublime technical ability, great balance and can produce moments of magic on rare ocacssions.

However, there are clearly some things to worry about. His end product for one is truly terrible at times. He can go past 4 or 5 players and then put his cross on the roof of the net! Frustrating is an understatement. What truly gets alarm bells ringing though has to be his injury record. He is out for about half of every season, normally.

Torn on this rumour. To be fair he is allegedly a Liverpool fan and very good friends with Henderson so maybe it makes sense if Can and Milner leave. He could be a versatile impact sub in their place. You have to wonder if it is worth the risk though. Milner although being 8 years older is arguably just as good and can additionally cover both full back positions, but just as importantly is never injured. I'm sure this rumour will split opinion, but I am undecided for now.

MK Scouser

1.) 10 Mar 2017 21:00:31
Me too could end up being brilliant or an injury prone burden but would take him for 8 mill or some sort of swap deal with studge.


2.) 10 Mar 2017 21:18:52
He's not good enough and injury prone.


3.) 10 Mar 2017 22:07:29
There are better options out there.


4.) 10 Mar 2017 22:14:18
Oxs would be perfect for us he could play in the Lallana role of outwide but I don't know if he gets in the team.


5.) 10 Mar 2017 22:23:06
His attitude on the pitch is sublime, just what every fan wants to see, maybe not the big money game changing signing but I'm not sure that's klopps philosophy. He is the type of player that lifts people around him and that's priceless. If klopp worked with him I'd imagine ox is the type of player that would go to war for JK. Could be an inspired signing.


6.) 10 Mar 2017 22:15:59
MK the amount of times Klopp has left me with egg on my face and eating humble pie Im getting sick of the stuff lol. I wouldn't judge any decision of Klopps until a fair assessment can be made. If Klopp feels he can work with Gotze again, if Klopp thinks he can better manage the Ox I'll reserve my judgement until after a season or two. All this pie and i don't even like pastry :-P.


7.) 10 Mar 2017 22:16:59
How can you say he is "not good enough" though? He is 23 years old and has never had a chance to progress due to injuries. At 23 years old most people wanted Carragher sold. At 23 years old Sturridge had been rejected by Man City and Chelsea.

Chamberlain is a very talented player, with a lot of potential. The gamble is not whether he is good enough, it is whether he can finally stay fit and find consistency. Both of which are fairly related.

I have no doubt that on his game, 100% fit he is good enough for our team. How often will that happen though? That is the real question here.


8.) 10 Mar 2017 22:19:00
Maybe I'm watching a different player but Oxlade is a bang average player. Hasn't got electric pace enough to be a threat out wide, his delivery is poor and hasn't the guile to be a number 10 and he lacks the intelligence and physical attributes to play in centre midfield. He can go to City, Chelsea or United as far as I'm concerned.


9.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:31
We don't need another running midfielder MK. We have it in with Wiji and Lallana. We need a deep lying midfielder.


10.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:48
He's still a young lad.
Best is yet to come from him.


11.) 10 Mar 2017 23:10:11
His attitude stinks. Remember that little strop he threw on the field in the first leg against Bayern? Sorry but I only want players who are fully committed, with a good attitude and will not strop on the field.


12.) 11 Mar 2017 01:14:11
Not for me thanks.


13.) 11 Mar 2017 01:22:10
Da Red man that strop showed nothing but his commitment. He tried to close down 3 passes with no help from the rest of team who had given up.

Don't think we need him though.


14.) 11 Mar 2017 01:27:39
Daredman you know why he did that because no one was trying to get the bull back with him . Oxs would be a good signing there's a player in him it just needs to be unlock.

I remember people saying hendo and Lallana are bang average look at them now.

People did not what mane because of his attitude and have we seen anything bad from mane

And if you let him go to a rival and do well you look really silly.

Have we got a replace for Lallana because I have not seen one in are team . Gini naver like him

I'm not saying he should be a top target but if you can get him for 15-20mil you can't go wrong.


15.) 11 Mar 2017 01:28:19
Would rather some of our youngsters get a chance than injury prone new signings.


16.) 11 Mar 2017 09:28:48
Problem is can he stay fit?

How does he stay fot in a klopp team thag works harder than almost any other?


17.) 11 Mar 2017 10:08:59
He's injury prone, has shown little development since bursting onto the scene (albeit this has been hampered by injuries), he seems to lack game intelligence and rarely makes a big mark on the game. I'm not really sure what he would offer or if he would be of the required quality (even if he stayed injury free) and, on top of what would have to be seen as a huge gamble, he would not come cheap either.
If the club is to be smart about its recruitment, and get real bang for their buck, then they must invest the money far more wisely than in a player like Oxlaide Chamberlain. We need to improve our recruitment in terms of money spent and quality - Chamberlain represents a huge gamble and one I don't think we are in the position to take. I our money was limitless a la City then we would have more leeway - as it stands we simply cannot afford to be taking big risks and that is exactly what a move for Oxlaide Chamberlain would be.


18.) 11 Mar 2017 15:19:04
You lost me at "ahead of Henderson" Pure nonsense that!

You then further lost me by then saying he could be a "versatile impact sub"!

Contradicting much?

He'd pad out the squad giving us another option off the bench but he's no starter.


19.) 11 Mar 2017 15:59:43
I look at it this way: Is he going to improve our first team? No. Is he going to start ahead of our first choice 11? No. At Arsenal, he has been played wide and in a central role, so not a specialist but bit of a squad player (potential or not) .

Add his injury issues, and that fact that he is English (over-hyped and over-priced), and it looks like a transfer we probably should avoid.


20.) 11 Mar 2017 17:18:36
That's a good argument Seano. I cannot say I disagree.


21.) 11 Mar 2017 21:25:20
Mind bender I think you misread my post. I mean he can play in any position further forward than defensive midfield. Not instead of Henderson. Hence my suggestion that he could be versatile cover or an impact player.

AG I would say that when fit and on form he would be knocking on the door to start ahead of Lallana. That is why I am querying his fitness and consistency though because it is so unreliable. I'm only instigating a debate buddy. Like I say, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject. I don't think he would be the worst signing but as you rightly point out, him being English will inflate his price; even with only a year on his contract. So there is probably better value elsewhere.

Somebody else used the phrase already, but Chamberlain is the personification of a gamble.


22.) 12 Mar 2017 11:51:21
Think Chamberlain would be a very shrewd signing and would probe a lot of people wrong.


23.) 12 Mar 2017 16:46:19
Chamberlain just isn't worth wasting the money on. If it wasn't for the fact he was English he wouldn't even be a £10 million player. We would be better off signing Brandt as he's got more potential and even now is a far superior footballer. If it's simply a matter of choosing a winger because he's 'English', we may as well do our annual trip to Southampton and buy Redmond.


24.) 13 Mar 2017 17:42:52
He wants to play te box to box role, he actually had a very good run at it whenFlamini was't good enough after re signing for Arsenal, and coquelin was out. He didn't show enough for me then to suggest he'd make it. He's a wide player for Asernal when most ohters are fit, and atm, he's been overtaken by Iwobi. I said before if we're getting an arsenal player for a central role, I'd rather it be Ramsey wo for me is much more accomplished.


 

 

01 Mar 2017 18:47:55
There are rumours about now that we will try and sign Francesco Cassata in the summer. He is by all accounts a great young midfielder but that's all I know of him.

MK Scouser

 

 

26 Feb 2017 09:58:02
Helder Costa is apparently of interest. He fits the profile; fast left winger with a good goal return.

He tore us to pieces earlier in the season and has been directly involved in 18 goals this season for a struggling Wolves side (20th in the Championship) .

What are peoples thoughts on him? At 23 years old he is probably more first team ready than the likes of Brandt or Malcom. Plus he is already settled into England and English football so could probably hit the ground running.

It all looks good on paper, but I have only seen him play 3 times so not really got a lot in the way of seeing him play to make a judgement.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - I have watched him a few times now and he does not impress me. Great ability on the ball, but chooses the wrong option every single time. One of those head down and run until it gets taken off him or he launches it into row Z. Then he will get the ball right once and it is a goal. So he is capable. Reminds me a little of a slower but more skilful Aaron Lennon to be honest.}


1.) 26 Feb 2017 10:29:15
Got to say Ed, I watched his highlight reels shortly after posting this and my exact thought was "this guy is like the Portuguese Sterling". He looked so hell bent on not releasing the ball and that is just his 'best' bits!

If this mornings rumours are true we are interested in him as a summer signing. As good as he was at Anfield, after watching his highlights and hearing your opinion I am not overly optimistic!

{Ed001's Note - I have made a point of watching Wolves in recent weeks as quite a few people were looking at him, I would not be keen on him at the cost he would be. Plus his agent, Mendes. Seems a nice guy in person, but he is a proper superagent that knows how to maximise his players' earning potential. Not the kind of man you want to deal with, as you will not win in a deal like that.}


2.) 26 Feb 2017 10:53:57
Do we gave interest then ed?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, it wasn't our interest that made me take a look, it was Everton's, as they were taking a long look at him prior to the January window.}


3.) 26 Feb 2017 11:08:49
If we actually wanted to sign him, wouldn't it have been better to deal directly with Benfica before he made his move permanent to Wolves last month?

{Ed001's Note - yep.}


4.) 26 Feb 2017 13:10:25
While U've been watching wolves ed how has Conor coady been doing?

{Ed001's Note - ok, he has been moved to right back and does well there. Some of his crossing has been excellent, though wasted as Lambert doesn't exactly overload the box. Not done too badly defensively either. Could do with better players alongside him in defence though, their centre halves are abysmal.}


5.) 26 Feb 2017 15:06:25
Ive watched him a lot this season as i go to the home games when i can and in my opinion he is not good enough for us especially at the high price wolves would want i think he should stay at wolves until end of next season and than if he continues to improve he will get a big move.


6.) 27 Feb 2017 06:44:54
Tearing our defence to pieces do not mean you're good enough to tear proper defences to pieces.


7.) 27 Feb 2017 20:12:09
Ron,
Nearly wet myself at that reply.


 

 

25 Feb 2017 18:48:45
Ed001, you said earlier your priority would be a centre back to partner Matip. Do you know if the club are looking at any in particular? I have only seen lazy journalism surrounding Virgil Van Dijk and Jonathon Tah.

Is it possible Klopp plans to use Gomez after a full pre season to get him fit?

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - Gomez is seen as the long term future, but the intention is to use him in cups and as full back cover in the short term. I do expect us to try and pick up another centre back, as the club have been scouting centre halves during the season. A replacement for Sakho is the plan. To that end both those players have been looked at, though both are almost certainly out of reach pricewise.}


1.) 25 Feb 2017 22:35:21
Cheers Ed001, I know it was mentioned that we asked about Nacho of Madrid. Perhaps he is more in our budget!


2.) 26 Feb 2017 00:39:17
Might be a stupid question, but when you say out of reach pricewise, surely you mean more than we'd want to pay for them, not more than we can afford, right? As in, they're priced (much) higher than what we think they're worth. Otherwise, what's the point in wasting our time scouting them?

{Ed001's Note - I don't understand what difference it makes, nor do I understand what you mean by 'wasting our time scouting them' when you scout for more reasons than buying someone. If we play his team, then any information the scouts have gathered about the players is useful. They might have spotted a weakness to be exploited.}


3.) 26 Feb 2017 07:24:13
Spartan, the owners have always maintained that if a player is available and his price can be justified then we will pay it. Considering we have spent £35m on Carroll, Firmino and Mane during their ownership I think it's fair to say they have put their money were there mouth is. Not to mention £20-30m on Lallana, Downing, Suarez, Sakho, Lovren, Markovic, Wijnaldum etc. Especially when you consider that they have had to write off a massive debt LFC owed to FSG and pay off circa £1m a week in losses we were making when they first bought the club. Yet they have still ploughed more money into expanding the stadium, or tying Klopp down to a monster contract.

Therefore I would deduce that if a player is out of our price range it simply means that they are valued at a price higher than can be justified or essentially higher than what we think they are worth. I am not going to complain at the club refusing to overpay! That's just smart, sustainable business behaviour.


4.) 26 Feb 2017 09:09:57
Yeah that's what I thought. Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - sorry that reads harsher than I meant it to. It was not meant to sound so dismissive. I just don't often have time to read back through what I type and make it read like it should do.}


5.) 26 Feb 2017 10:13:07
No need to apologize! I understood what you were saying. Thanks for all you do for us!

{Ed001's Note - cheers for being understanding.}


6.) 26 Feb 2017 14:01:12
Ed, who centre back we are scouting?

{Ed001's Note - there are a lot we have looked at. Seems the ones favoured are a pair from the Bundesliga, though I have no idea on the likelihood of either at the moment. Nastasic and Dragovic.}


7.) 26 Feb 2017 14:11:15
We managed to sign Matip who wasn't too pricey at all and I guess is down to good scouting. Hopefully we can find and sign another player like this who is not on everyone else's radar.


8.) 26 Feb 2017 20:17:07
Jorge mere please.


 

 

18 Dec 2016 11:29:14
Hi Eds, not seen it mentioned for a while now. Where do we stand with regards to recruiting more firepower up top?

I don't for one second think Pulisic is a realistic option and you have answered this sufficiently. I'm more inclined to believe the Azmoun or Promes rumours. Azmoun is only contracted for 2 more years, and Promes is openly available for an albeit hefty price tag. Scrolled right down the page and couldn't find any recent updates. My apologies if I am asking you to repeat yourselves.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - why believe any? Azmoun has been watched, but that's all.}


 

 

 

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15 Apr 2017 10:42:33
Right people I was at my parents house yesterday so I took the time to dig up loads of footage on Naby Keita (as i'm not using my internet data! )

I keep hearing he is like Kante but is this literally just because of his appearance and physique?

I couldn't see many comparisons to be honest. Physically they are identical (lack of height, loads of stamina, good power, sublime balance, deceptive pace and surprising strength) and they are both very good at running at pace with the ball. However from what I could find on Keita the comparisons stopped there.

Whilst Kante tends to be more of a ball winner who can link play, Keita seemed to be more of a flair player who constantly looked to get in behind or into the box. It was more like watching a young Steven Gerrard as Keita played little give and go's with the forwards to get behind the back four, or drilled in a shot from distance, or put it in the bottom corner from a ridiculous angle etc. His one touch passing into dangerous areas as well was more like the vision and precision of Gerrard, than Kante.

I have to hold my hands up and admit I have never watched Keita play a full 90 minutes. Is there anyone who has perhaps watched him regularly who could add something for me? I'm just really not seeing the Kante comparison in terms of style. He looks ideal to replace Lallana in our midfield though.

MK Scouser

1.) 15 Apr 2017 11:15:28
Haven't watched him myself, MK, but did some reading when we were first linked. The impression I got fits with your observations, but it would also seem that even though he has very good offensive qualities, he has been used in the DM position quite often - perhaps this is the reason people are convinced that he is a defensive midfielder, while he is not. He seems very versatile though, and could fit into several of the roles that Klopp is developing in our midfield - either a deep lying playmaker/ presser (this is the best description of Henderson, I think), or Wijnaldum's multi-purpose role. In fact, I think the Wijnaldum position would best suit his skill-set, but he is indeed an alternative for both Lallana and Hendo.
For this reason I very much hope we will go for him, this will give us a very versatile midfield, with five midfielders worthy to be first-choice rotating, and Grujic offering competition.


2.) 15 Apr 2017 14:47:19
Keita is a fantastic player. Watched him play against Bayer Leverkusen recently (actually wanted to see how Brandt would do) and he was brilliant. Good passing, terrific tackler and gets around the pitch with ease. Him and a fully fit Hendo would dominate most midfields in Europe.


3.) 15 Apr 2017 14:54:45
Tnere is no one like Kante in the whole of Europe so the less people compare him to others, the better. He is a phenomenon that no other player can match.

As for Keita, I have seen him play. Drigan makes a good analysis of his game. He is more forward thinking than Kante and is quality in front of goal both from close range and long range. He can be either a box to box midfielder, a CM like Wij or Can and can also play deep cos he plays deeper with RBL behind the no. 10 Forsberg (a goal and assists machine) .

Can we get him? I doubt it cos he just moved there this season from RB Salzburg and RBL are deep if not deeper than City in terms of cash so don't need to sell and can pay wages than anyone offers their players.


4.) 15 Apr 2017 22:12:12
I did say this earlier in the year MKS. Kieta does not play at the back of a midfield, he is primarily a powerful box to box midfielder who also likes to run late into the box Lampard-esque hence his reasonable goal scoring record. What I will say is that Keita does offer good midfield cover because he's a non stop runner who likes to tackle and track back, is very athletic and will run all day.

Even after his unknown illness he still came back like nothing had happened. Where you impressed with what you saw? I've seen a lot of him this season and i think he'd be phenomenal for us especially if Hendo doesn't recover and LFC are forced into replacing.


5.) 15 Apr 2017 23:26:26
Ageree Poolie however, I doubt we will get him cos RBL won't sell and they don't need to cos they have VERY deep pockets. Also, Ed said we were VERY interested in Obiang from WH b4 his injury to come in and help Hendo out BUT we will see if we are still interested this summer and if he can prove his fitness.


6.) 16 Apr 2017 06:56:53
MK the echo have an article profiling him on the website this morning, worth a read and is similar to what your thoughts are that he is more attacking.


 

 

13 Apr 2017 15:37:31
I know a lot of people are nervously looking over our shoulders in the race for CL football but I am quietly confident we can go past Spurs and finish second. Has anyone actually looked at their run in? It is awful.

They have an easy game against Bournemouth this weekend, but then they have; London Derby with Crystal Palace away, another London Derby with Arsenal at WHL, another London Derby with West Ham away, then they play Draw specialists Man United at WHL, then they go away to the in form Leicester, before rounding off the season against Hull city away (do not forget that game will probably have far more riding on it for Hull than Spurs, or that Hull are unbeaten at home under Silva) .

We should be aiming for a top 2 finish, not a top 4 finish! Our run in has banana skins in it, but we have no more top 7 teams to play, no more local derbies, no FA cup semi finals to worry about etc. Our hardest games are West Brom who have taken their foot off the gas, and Crystal Palace who will be without Sakho. Let's look forward guys, not backwards!

MK Scouser

1.) 13 Apr 2017 15:50:13
I think we should just concentrate on ourselves. If we win all our matches, we will finish in a CL spot easily.

As for Spurs, they are the most in form team, and they will likely finish 2nd easily.


2.) 13 Apr 2017 16:13:01
Love the Positivity MK. Fingers crossed!

Although I would settle for top four. My worst nightmare is United winning their game in hands!


3.) 13 Apr 2017 16:29:31
MK we are Liverpool and we don't do things easy, love your positivity but im taking it one game at a time, and don't forget man city will also have a big say in things, I think the top 2 places have already been taken.


4.) 13 Apr 2017 16:46:48
MK, I love your optimism BUT catching Spurs will NOT happen. Remember, they play Bmouth this week and based on their form at home, that's a win. We may win or draw or lose to WB and they also have a game in hand on us vs CP so it ain't going to happen, as much as I want it to regardless of their run in.

On the contrary, they will be the ones doing us a favor as they play Utd and Arsenal at home in their run-in which if they win both and we win our games on those weekends, top 3/ 4 will be ours.


5.) 13 Apr 2017 17:35:57
You can get 750-1 on us winning the league still.

Just saying ;)


6.) 13 Apr 2017 18:57:18
I reckon that Spurs will win nearly all their games that are left and easy finish 2nd , its us that will find it hard, 3rd or 4th, hard to know, but we will know a lot more after the West Brom game, hope as someone has mentioned, that they are taking it easy now, but they will gie us a very difficult game, but a win and 3 big big points, with United maybe having a bad day, and it could be a Happy Easter after all .


7.) 13 Apr 2017 19:10:09
We can still win the league.


8.) 13 Apr 2017 19:06:53
Arsenal falling apart, United having to play City, Chelsea and Spurs. I think we actually might scrape through.


9.) 13 Apr 2017 19:09:49
Spurs are hard to beat and has been consistent through out. They won't slip up. They will beat the teams you mentioned MK. They have the best defense in the league moreover Poch is a terrific coach.


10.) 13 Apr 2017 19:34:35
With the way Spurs are playing, they're going to finish 2nd.
Considering that a number of the others are playing each other, 13-15 points should cling top 4.


11.) 13 Apr 2017 22:47:21
Being realistic Spurs need 10 points from their final seven games to finish above us, I can't see them not getting that.


12.) 14 Apr 2017 01:57:06
I don't know about second ML. I really respect what spurs are doing and they are in great form. they may drop points in the final straight, but I don't see them dropping so many that we could catch them.

but thinking about the race for 3rd and 4th we are obviously in the drivers seat and I hope that our players approach it that way. Like when city won their games in hand to overtake us for the prem. they knew what they had to do and then went out and did it. I remember watching that game when they beat villa in that heavy rain. that was a really impressive watch.

like others have said, this is all relevant if we don't take care of our own. BUT at the same time it is hard not to look at what the other teams are up to. manU have Chelsea next only 3 days after a game away in Anderlecht. then next week they have another 3 day turnaround after europa to play burnley away. I think they will have it toughest and gives a great chance to embed ourselves in the top4. let's go!


13.) 15 Apr 2017 07:31:45
Considering form against them it would be better if last 7 games were against top 7 sides.


 

 

11 Apr 2017 22:01:12
I cannot believe people are turning their nose up at Sessegnon because he is a teenager.

Wonder if those same people are glad we turned away Dele Alli and signed James Milner a couple of years ago?

Not a pop at Milner by the way. Love the guy and think he is a very under rated player, but I just wanted to point out that the safe experienced option is not always the best option.

MK Scouser

1.) 11 Apr 2017 22:29:31
I'm not against signing him, just making him first choice.


2.) 11 Apr 2017 22:46:22
I think Ed02 has shared the reasons why some of us have reservations, although he looks a top talent if he didn't hit the ground running people would be tearing strips out of a guy who is essentially a child. Perhaps pereira would be the better option.


3.) 11 Apr 2017 22:46:30
Who said he would be first choice? Milner will probably be the starting LB next season.


4.) 11 Apr 2017 23:02:29
You make out the club wanted Milner over Alli .

Alli did not join because FSG did not what to pay the money because they seen it to expensive.


5.) 11 Apr 2017 23:05:04
Milner will definitely not be starting left back next season, he's beyond average, really poor crosser, slows down every attack as he turns on to his right foot and blocks phil's space and he is constantly being targeted by the opposition.


6.) 12 Apr 2017 07:21:27
Our problems are obviously at the defensive end of the pitch - both in terms of basic organisation and personnel - but this has been the case for some time now and there's little evidence to suggest that this will change short term.


7.) 12 Apr 2017 10:20:47
MK Scouser,

I mentioned this on a post before but I am a season ticket holder at Fulham and have seen a lot of him. I don't doubt that he isn't good enough, what worries me is that he may be a season away from being ready for us. What worries me is if we buy him, he has a few games in which he makes mistakes (like any young player would) and then some of the fans jump on his back, his confidence drops and he rots away in the reserves or is shipped out on loan numerous times around the country (like Markovic who many (including Ed002 herself) would agree was bought in a season too soon) .

From watching him play this season I think he could be exactly what we need long term! I just want it to be properly planned out, whether that involves him spending a season on loan back at Fulham or him being integrated into the team slowly in cup games, I don't know! The lad is only 17 (just? ) after all!

Red Sandman.


8.) 12 Apr 2017 14:41:36
maybe the best option for the young lad, would be for Liverpool to buy him, but loaning him back to Fulham for the next season, to assist in his development as a player .

{Ed002's Note - The situation is such that Fulham will look to sign him to a professional contract and look to keep him at the club. They may be open to a proposal from another side that includes a player and a two year loan back but they will not look to a straight sale. It has been made clear to me today that there are also those still at Fulham who are reluctant to do business with Liverpool. So it is possible something can be done but it would be very difficult.}


9.) 12 Apr 2017 15:27:59
lol what's the improvement if we keep the same backline next season? We need a change in personal coz we are poor at the back Drigan.


10.) 12 Apr 2017 15:39:32
I'm not saying the club chose one over the other. My point is that we refused to pay the money for Alli because of his age, and then signed a veteran instead for midfield who was costing 5 times more in wages. Alli is now the best goal scoring midfielder in Europe, and Milner plays at left back.


11.) 12 Apr 2017 16:03:36
Turned Down Alli for Milner? that wasn't the options.


12.) 12 Apr 2017 16:13:53
So you doubt he's good enough?


13.) 12 Apr 2017 20:23:21
I think everyone has missed the point of my post.

Sigh 😏🙄🙄.


14.) 12 Apr 2017 20:24:52
Give Origi, Alli didn't come here cos the deal could not be done and NOT cos FSG did not want to pay the money. How do you reckon that? his fee was 5.5m if my memory serves me right so how do you know FSG pulled the plug. You do know the owners don't sign players nor give an opinion as to who to sign right? Stop projecting as it is getting tedious always blaming FSG with no evidence.

Personally, I couldn't be bothered if Alli did not come here. With the "genius" in charge and his "uncanny" ability to always play square pegs in round holes, Alli would prolly have been playing in goal or at DM or RWB or whatever. Just let it go cos BR would have no idea what to do with him just like he had no clue of what to do with Can, Lallana and Firmino. What makes you think Alli would have been different?

{Ed025's Note - the deal was not completed because ian ayre tried to play silly buggers with the dons, they wanted 5.5 and ayre offered a take it or leave it 5m and the dons refused...what a 22 carat pratt..


15.) 12 Apr 2017 21:14:43
Chileanred, try reading it again. I never stated we turned down Alli "for" Milner. Only that we passed on Alli due to wages, but were happy to sign Milner on a far bigger salary; hence my point that the experienced option is not always the right option.


 

 

26 Mar 2017 11:55:08
As skillful and technically gifted as James Rodriguez is, I am not convinced he is the right player to replace Coutinho should he leave.

Don't get me wrong, he has incredible vision, a wicked set piece delivery, and can ghost past people. However I am just worried by his failure to translate his international form to club level. It is like he lacks that fire in his belly when he isn't representing his country.

Very good player who can play on either wing, but he is predominantly an attacking midfielder. We really need to start targeting players for their natural positions and I don't see what Rodriguez brings to the table that we can't already get from Lallana, Firmino etc.

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1.) 26 Mar 2017 12:32:14
If you think he can't at least match what couts has done you'd wanna give your head a wobble.

I don't think he'd play of the wing anyway he'd be in the middle.

We will be buying winger to play on the left.


2.) 26 Mar 2017 12:51:36
I have more chance in marrying margot Robbie than Liverpool do in signing james rodriguez, we couldn't afford his wages for a start.


3.) 26 Mar 2017 13:12:06
Rafa Silva will be his replacement.


4.) 26 Mar 2017 13:41:50
We'll probably end up with Oxlade-Chamberlain knowing our rotten luck and poor recruiting.


5.) 26 Mar 2017 13:52:21
Kenny

Hands off Margot, she is mine

😍😍😍😍.

{Ed001's Note - I am just worried that anyone would think, despite all evidence to the contrary, that Rodriguez would be good enough to replace Coutinho. He is rank rotten, slow, terrible atttitude with nothing to recommend him. One of those that only looks good on two second clips on youareacompletetube. Anyone that actually watches him regularly will know he has been a complete disaster at Madrid and they are desperate to get rid of him. If we buy him, we are accepting mediocrity.}


6.) 26 Mar 2017 16:08:31
Not great at Madrid ed well that's an overstatement lol

But clearly unbelievable hidden talent he was unplayable at the World Cup.

Has he got attitude problems? Strange how he got a big club move and it failed?

{Ed001's Note - he was not unplayable, nor does he have unbelievable talent. He is ridiculously overrated and nothing special at all talent wise. You clearly have never watched him play on a regular basis and are basing your views on a few matches in a crap tournament. He had a couple of flashes of brilliance, which is all he has ever done in his entire career. 3 weeks of dross followed by one MOTD moment and people with no idea only see that one moment so worship at his feet.

Nothing strange about it. He was bought because he is a good looking lad and has a huge commercial value for Madrid, who are all about making money first, playing football second. He would never have got that same chance at a real football club.}


7.) 26 Mar 2017 16:31:00
We don't even have any interest in him though right? Wages too high also.


8.) 26 Mar 2017 16:49:07
Some players are not even capable of flashes of brilliance so he's got more than most 😂.


9.) 26 Mar 2017 17:47:04
Thing is though, if Coutinho does go, which is likely, we will need to replace him and I'd be disappointed if we ended up with an also ran like Oxlade or a one season wonder like Mahrez because neither of them are fit to lace little Phil's boots.


10.) 26 Mar 2017 18:33:38
Hm, definitely not as bad as Ed001 is making out. Although, equally not as good as most would have you believe.

A good player who has been out of form and had little impact at Madrid. Sure he can be a very handy player for achampions league level side still who would offer him more of a roaming role and play around/ for him.


11.) 26 Mar 2017 19:26:44
I think their are two sides to this argument and the truth is somewhere in between.

He is a good player, but he is not world class. With the amount of money he would cost though, he should be world class which is why he would not represent good business!

To be fair to Rodriguez, he definitely has ability and when he can be bothered he can hurt teams. However he is really not much better (if at all) than Lallana, and definitely not as good as Coutinho.

I think the argument about his ability is pretty redundant anyway. He is just so clearly not what we need. We have Lallana, Coutinho, Firmino, Wijnaldum, Grujic and Ejaria who are all best in attacking midfield roles or behind a striker. 4 of those guys are currently in our starting eleven which hurts the teams balance very visibly at times. Based on our current formation and where they are playing; If we were to sell Coutinho we should sign a proper left winger, if we sold Firmino we would need a striker, and if we sold Lallana we would need a more traditional midfielder. It was a Rodgers habit to flood the squad with attacking midfielders so let's not continue that tradition!

If Couts left I think Rafa Silva would be a great replacement personally. We should go for the right players in the right positions instead of those who, as Ed001 basically put it, look desirable!


12.) 26 Mar 2017 20:20:54
Your last post is dead spot on MK. Positions over Names or players. Left winger and not an ACM please!


13.) 26 Mar 2017 23:06:05
I hope Klopp give Ojo or Wilson a go on the left wing.
No point in having these youngsters if we don't trust them.
Sterling was raw when he got his chance and he took it. We need to give Ojo or Wilson the chance to stake a claim.


14.) 27 Mar 2017 02:57:38
Very silly to say Mahrez is dross.

He has got wonderful control, excellent ball playing skills.

The way he controls a long ball is pure poetry in motion.

Plz stop saying he isn't fit to .

shows your ignorance.

cheers.

{Ed001's Note - Puzzled, James is not out of form at all, that is nonsense. He is playing at the level he was when he was bought. He had a couple of good games for his country and suddenly ignorant people, who know nothing about him, think he is a superstar. He has never been outstanding at club level, ever. He might be great on FIFA or FM, I have no idea, but in real life he has done nothing on the pitch to deserve the reputation he has.}


15.) 28 Mar 2017 10:55:20
I have seen James play and he's a good player and that is about it. He is everything Ed says he is as I've seen him a lot cos I watch RM a lot as I have been a supporter of theirs since the days of Butragueno and Hugo Sanchez. Yeah, a very long time. James is not fit to lace Coouts' boots, period. Couts is younger, more skillful, works harder, has a great attitude and mentality, all the things James is NOT and does NOT possess. James is good BUT definitely NOT world class and his attitude stinks hence why Zidane wants nothing to do with him. He can't even get on the pitch ahead of Lucas Vasquez, an average player BUT one who works his socks off. James will be a waste of time and money and frankly, his attitude will make Klopp lose his mind. Rather get Brandt or someone else in and KEEP Couts.


 

 

04 Mar 2017 20:36:32
Firmino and Lallana had great games today. It is so frustrating!

They play so well occasionally that you don't want to drop them and the don't show up for games against lesser sides.

I think for Firmino he has so much quality and age on his side. Lallana though needs to massively up his consistency to keep his place or next season in my opinion. He was good tonight but his end product was still found wanting.

Great result though. Just a shame it makes all these guys undroppable against Burnley where they will probably coast and lose again knowing this season!

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1.) 04 Mar 2017 22:13:11
Lallana even when ''poor''has often been the bes tplayer on the pitch, some people just have agendas from 2 years back. when he has movement in front of him he releases it, when he doesn'the takes his ''too many touches'' in search of a viable unmarked option (which many people don't get. ) when those around him bother, Lallana willplay it, sadly those around him haven't bothered. He has always done his defensive duties, sotat's never been a problem. He aong with Mane are the only 2 who genuinely should be vying for the player of the season titles.


2.) 04 Mar 2017 23:09:51
If we sort out the defence we have a team.


3.) 04 Mar 2017 23:35:39
No doubt Lallana is a good player. He single handedly dismantled Middlesbrough earlier this season.

He then follows that with 2 months without a goal or assist though. It us only his consistency holding him back. He cannot be considered for player of the season after a good first 18 games. That's half a season. Even for our third goal today he nearly wasted the chance taking about 10 touches. Origi was very nearly offside trying to hold his run.

I like Lallana a lot. He is vital to our press and would be hard to improve on if we signed a replacement. He just needs to show up every week all season.


4.) 05 Mar 2017 00:35:50
Lallana checked his pass and did a turn to allow origi to get back on side, I thought he showed great awareness for the goal.


5.) 05 Mar 2017 00:44:01
What that was fabulous what lallana did for the 3rd goal.

Was so good. Touch. run. beats a man. outside of foot pass.


6.) 05 Mar 2017 01:15:08
Problem with Lallana is can you count on him to play out of his skin when its not a big game. Needs to be more consistent for me.


7.) 05 Mar 2017 11:58:44
The trick with Lallana is to play him in the right place, centre of the park, not shove him out on the wing. Yesterday he was in the right place = great performance and a good result. Simples.


 

 

 

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24 Apr 2017 19:36:22
Calibre? He is pretty much at the same level as the likes of Tadic or even Khazri!

He is not this world class talent that the media would have you believe. Good player, but very over rated and certainly not too good for us!

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15 Apr 2017 18:49:52
No doubt he'd be first choice when he first signed AG. Even Liverpool aren't mad enough to spend £50m on a player they see as a reserve. But within a year the pecking order would change in my opinion. I would genuinely feel more comfortable with Gomez at the back than VVD! He'd probably be worse initially but he has far more potential ability. I just think VVD would end up getting dropped when the club realise Skrtel had more positional awareness! As I say though it is only my opinion.

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15 Apr 2017 10:33:57
If we signed VVD and Giminez then Lovren, Sakho and Klavan would need to be moved on.

VVD would also become an expensive back up though because there is no chance he starts over Matip and Giminez. He is barely ahead of Joe Gomez in my opinion.

This VVD rumour just won't go away though, so I guess I need to sit on my reservations. Maybe he will learn some positional sense watching from the sidelines for 3 months!

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14 Apr 2017 23:04:52
Harsh to call Zaha average. He has had a great season in a very poor team. Last season I would've completely agreed. He now offers a genuine threat in behind, running at the opposition, holding the ball up, putting dangerous crosses in etc. His improvement has been astonishing to be quite honest. He has something like 6 goals and 12 assists in a team fighting relegation.

However he is not as good as Mane and plays the exact same position. Not to mention this is his first good season. He needs to prove he can maintain this level. You couldn't even argue he is cover when Mane is at the AFCON, because Zaha will also be at the tournament!

If we are going to try and nab a centre back in part of a swap deal for Sakho, we would be better off with Jack Stephens though. He is better than VVD.

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05 Apr 2017 14:36:57
I believe Origi is our only player this season to have scored in all 3 competitions. He is also our third highest scorer in all competitions (Mane 13, Firmino 10, Origi 9).

However he actually as 9 goals in 35 appearances. The catch is that he has only played roughly 1500 minutes which means his goals/ minutes ratio is pretty impressive.

He starts for me in Mane's absence. No debate in my mind.

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29 Apr 2017 23:56:36
Not sure the Green Goblin would suit our style of play.

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29 Apr 2017 18:13:09
What about Anichebe? ;)

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26 Apr 2017 20:28:34
Ed001 did a round up not long ago.

I'll rack my brains but I may have some of this wrong.

Likely to leave:
Sturridge, Lucas, Brannagan, Moreno, Sakho, Markovic, Ward

Possible to leave:
Ings, Kent, Coutinho, Stewart, Can, Clyne, Mignolet

That looks about right anyway!

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23 Apr 2017 22:58:38
Can was man marking Benteke on that corner today and he let him go completely.

Cannot blame Klopp for that. Get a life man.

Players were poor today. Only guy making things happen was Coutinho. Mignolet was flappy. Clyne was sloppy. Lovren and Matip were a shambles. Milner was defensively sound but offered nothing going forward. Can was at fault for the second and over ran it every time. Gini had his worst game in a red shirt. Lucas was very hot and cold, playing some good passes then following them with terrible passes. Origi looked like he'd been taking first touch lessons from Lukaku. Firmino was off the pace. Moreno still can't cross. Arnold gave it a go but ultimately failed. Grujic had no time to do anything but at least tried to get in the box.

Coutinho on the other hand scored a stunner, played some great passes in behind, should've had a penalty, and was just all around a class above every player on the pitch.

Really disappointed. I honestly thought we'd rectified this but there are just too many players in our squad who don't show up against average opposition.

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23 Apr 2017 15:23:48
He was all set to sign for us. Contract was on the table ready, pen in his hand.

Then somebody let it slip that Ed001 wanted us to sign him and the Men in Black swooped in and ushered Sessegnon out the building before the contract was sealed in a vault 15 miles underneath Ed002's Chinese multi-story mansion.

Same happened with Medel a few years back.

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