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23 May 2018 12:40:45
Ed001, obviously Can will leave and we'll need to find someone new to compete with Hendo for the holding role. My question Is, that if we can't get the first choice player, Ceballos, is there a chance Klopp may give Pedro Chirivella the chance? He was arguably our most successful loanee last season.

Or is it a case of Chirivella not having a future, and would we just move on to someone else we've scouted like Doucoure, Ndidi or Obing?

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - Chirivella is planned to have a shot at cementing a place during the pre-season friendlies.}


1.) 23 May 2018 12:58:40
Would love it if he took that chance, he's done so well for two years on loan now.


2.) 23 May 2018 13:48:37
Cheers for the insight Ed. Like hjikle, I hope he does well too. He came with a big reputation!


3.) 23 May 2018 14:17:51
I see the consensus on Ceballos is that he would play the deeper lying role. I confess to not seeing anything of him live, I only watch Liverpool.
From what I have seen of him on the one and only YT, I can’t imagine it. I don’t think he has played there before and looks more of a link up player, running with the ball, short passes into forwards etc.
Like I said, I don’t know, only ever get time to watch Liverpool and YouTube as we all know is no real scouting tool but is that what we think is to happen with him if signed?


4.) 23 May 2018 14:35:43
I think he would be a good squad player for next season, keeps the play ticking over and reads the game well.

Obviously if we are bringing in more players then get him out for more experience but I would be upset if we din see him don a Liverpool shirt at some point!


5.) 23 May 2018 14:40:31
If he proves to be good enough, do you think that would cause the club to change their mind on ceballos?

{Ed001's Note - no idea.}


6.) 23 May 2018 16:14:59
I have no idea what position the player prefers barnsey, but he has made 131 senior appearances, and 65 of those he started the game as a deeper midfielder. He has started 38 other games either on the left midfield, attacking midfield or the right midfield. Sub appearance positioms aren't recorded.

He is much better in the deeper midfield roles, because he is not a quick dribbler and doesn't score many goals. He wouldn't fit the attacking roles in our system at all. He is still only very young and has been used as something of a utility player for most of his career so far, but his best position from what I have seen is definitely in a traditional midfield role. I actually think he'd be better in a midfield two myself, alongside Keita or Henderson.

If he was the sole holding player in a midfield 3, he might get overwhelmed at this age, with his lack of experience. The Spanish football fans liken him to Luka Modric. He is basically a midfield playmaker who can also chip in defensively (he loves a tackle), but he can also cover the more attacking roles to an okay level. He's not a pure defensive midfielder for sure, but neither is Henderson. Klopp Doesn't play an orthodox DM.


7.) 23 May 2018 18:38:59
With the window shortened and WC taking place I don't think the club will take a risk. They will go for Ceballos if not another player of his mould. Seriously it's going to affect the youngsters as Ed001 pointed earlier.


8.) 23 May 2018 22:11:29
Spot on, Barnes. Never seen Ceballos play BU I watched some youtube highlights and a DLM, he is not, I'm afraid. Maybe others can help me here.


9.) 23 May 2018 23:47:08
Brover, you have to remember that a YouTube highlight reel will focus primarily on goals and assists. Most of these came whilst he was playing in attacking positions (naturally) . So his YouTube highlights only tend to show him in games he played further forward. It would be a boring highlight reel if it was him intercepting a passes, making tackles and playing a forward pass to the attacking midfielders.

You'd have to research him more extensively than YouTube. Watch him in full games. Read detailed scout reports and player profiles etc. YouTube only picks out exciting bits and doesn't comprehensively cover everything about any player.


10.) 24 May 2018 03:57:25
So true MK - he's one of our most important players but have you looked at a Henderson highlight reel recently 😂.


11.) 24 May 2018 07:48:10
It's a shame that with the shortened window, it's less likely chiravella will get a shot to prove himself.


 

 

11 May 2018 10:48:52
Kloppsreds17, you asked where Ed002 said about Fekir and Fernandes, so i've put together a quick overview of all the latest info we have been given by the Eds. I save the important replies on confirmed Transfer targets so I can try and watch them!

ATTACK

{Ed002's Note - As a special treat. Liverpool have no agreement in place for Lemar, Maddison, Fekir nor any other of the done deals at this time. They will look to adding a versatile attacking midfield player as an effective replacement for Coutinho. AS has been explained a number of options have been looked at and there are scouts still looking at players across Europe and they will have looked at the likes of Fernandes, Fekir, Draxler etc. Specifically, the Lyon Sporting Director has spoken recently (since Fekir reurned from injury) with two sides, one English and one Spanish but Lyon would like the player to stay and are very difficult to deal with. Arsenal has had a long-term interest in Fekir but whether the new senior management will continue the interest AW had in the player is unclear at the moment. So right now Fekir has certainly been watched by Liverpool but they have not discussed anything with the Lyon owner or Sporting Director - but perhaps they will. }

MIDFIELD

{Ed001's Note - we did look at Jorginho, Seri, Weigl, Torreira and Lo Celso off the top of my head. }

{Ed001's Note - I will try and do something if I get some time mate, can't promise anything though Ceballos is still number one target. }

RIGHT BACK

{Ed001's Note - yes right back, we have looked at hundreds mate, bit soon to get certain names of the likely targets. We have looked at Hysaj, but I would expect him to be out of reach now with Napoli not wanting to sell. The Sociedad right back Odriozola, though he is a bit too attacking for my liking, as he also play midfield. There are a few in Germany, Heinrichs, Elvedi and Weiser and the Leipzig one, whose name I have forgotten. Lots more too though how many of them will even be in the thinking when it comes time to try and buy one I don't know right now. Oh Bilbao's right back. }

GOAL KEEPER

{Ed001's Note - we are also keen on Pepe Reina as an alternative to Navas by the way. If Ward goes, as seems likely, we will look out for a 3rd keeper who can also work as a coach, but it is not seen as a priority. To be honest I think, and this is just an opinion, it will be left for now and Klopp will just take a chance on no injuries happening. }

So those are the latest confirmed targets, but you can scratch out Weiser who has signed for Leverkusen, and Jorginho who is likely to sign for Manchester City.

MK Scouser

1.) 11 May 2018 11:03:02
Cheers MK. I remember that conversation now mate. I thought there was something more recent.


2.) 11 May 2018 11:02:18
Thanks MK nice summary of the awesome info we get from the eds on this site.


3.) 11 May 2018 11:36:02
nice one MK. I am sure though someone else will ask the same questions later on today.

Fekir without any doubt my first choice.


4.) 11 May 2018 12:47:00
markp08, I'm not sure Fekir is certain to move anywhere next season if what his father has said in the last day or so is correct, that he wishes to play for his boyhood club ( Lyon ) if they secure CL for next season.


5.) 11 May 2018 12:49:22
Markp08, look at the first post on the banter page 😂 you couldn't write It!


6.) 11 May 2018 18:00:27
Cheers MK although dunno how we are going to be able to throw out random names and piss of the ed’s If you’ve left the most up to date! 🙄.


7.) 11 May 2018 18:31:17
Hi everyone, new to this site.
I'm from Germany, so i just thought i'd tell you what i know about the RBs from Germany, that were mentioned.
Henrichs is a young talent, has played a few games from the start and been subbed on a few times. Bayern have been linked with him after a few good performances at the beginning of the season, but could have just been paper talk. Not so good lately and i don't think we need that now.
Elvedi is originally CB, he's doing well at RB, but offensively he's not enough of a threat.
Weiser is going to Leverkusen, so he's out and it tells you another story about Henrichs.
The guy from Leipzig is named Klostermann and he's a real talent. Unbelievably quick, has to work on his positioning though. He had to recover from a long term injury, but his been back in the Leipzig squad lately. Might have actually been and might still be a surprise candidate for the Germany World Cup squad. He would be the one i would try to sign ;)


8.) 11 May 2018 21:30:14
Nice one MK.


9.) 13 May 2018 07:55:52
Fekir and cabellos 😍😍 along with keita should make our midfield a lot stronger and more versatile for whatever comes our way.

Starting to get a good squad gathered together now. Great to see and a good time to be a liverpool fan.

Now just need to decide who gos on the new top I got yesterday lol prob salah again😉.


10.) 13 May 2018 19:29:27
To see reina again in a Liverpool shirt would be great.


 

 

08 May 2018 11:49:20
Ed001, some brilliant articles this morning mate. It seems quiet post-war, so I have a bit of a double barrelled question for you on goal keepers.

I mean, we know the target to replace Mignolet, and compete with Karius is Navas. However, we don't know what is going on with the 3rd choice position.

Could Ward stay? If he leaves will we promote a youngster such as Grabara? If not, will we sign someone like Manninger? And if that is the case, which 3rd choice keepers are we interested in?

Okay, so more of a quadruple barrelled question! I have checked all the pages with the search function and found nothing though. If that is simply because the situation is still up in the air, then apologies for wasting your time.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - we are also keen on Pepe Reina as an alternative to Navas by the way. If Ward goes, as seems likely, we will look out for a 3rd keeper who can also work as a coach, but it is not seen as a priority. To be honest I think, and this is just an opinion, it will be left for now and Klopp will just take a chance on no injuries happening.}


1.) 08 May 2018 12:05:32
Having reina back in the squad would be brilliant such a great personality. Question for ed001 tho i think I saw somewhere that achtherberg and pepe didn't get along? Not sure if this was true but more reinas poor form coincided with when actherberg came in?

{Ed001's Note - it was nothing to do with Achterberg, as such. Reina wanted out so I doubt any coach would have got much from him.}


2.) 08 May 2018 12:05:58
Cheers for the fast and conclusive reply Ed001, mate. I agree with NOTSOZIPPY, you are normally slower to reply than a tortoise doped up on temazepan 😉

Appreciated as always.

{Ed001's Note - hey that's my line!}


3.) 08 May 2018 12:48:14
'we will look out for a 3rd keeper who can also work as a coach'

Very interesting and somebody entered my mind for such a position, Buffon? would there be any chance? I can't see it happening but it's a nice thought, I think he'd be a brilliant coach.

{Ed001's Note - no chance mate.}


4.) 08 May 2018 12:54:21
Would rather have Reina than Navas, at least Reina can still catch a ball.


5.) 08 May 2018 12:59:59
I lost all respect for Buffon when he rallied Italy against Michael Oliver for a correct decision, and then failed to condemn the death threats he received from the 'teppisti disgustosi'. He was one of my all time favourites before that embarrassing scenario.

Reina worked a lot under Xavi Valero (the best goal keeper coach in the world in my opinion) so I wonder if he picked anything up and would be interested in progressing from back up keeper to coach. We know he loves the City enough to make it a long term home, even if he did embarrass himself with how he left last time!


6.) 08 May 2018 14:17:56
“I came here to help the club and the club has helped me as well, ” Neves told Sky Sports.

“I think we achieved all our goals, as an individual and as a team.

“It is normal as big clubs see our work, not just me but all the boys, but I am really happy here.

“I want to stay here and I want to enjoy the Premier League with this fantastic club. ”

Quote from Ruben Neves yesterday.

By the way. He already is playing for a Champions league manager. Up the Wolves!

{Ed001's Note - mate you have got the wrong player. Navas not Neves.}


7.) 08 May 2018 16:31:31
That's true MK, unfortunately mate.


8.) 08 May 2018 17:18:52
Reina over Navas any day of the week.


9.) 08 May 2018 17:34:01
I was under the understanding that Reina had agreed to join AC next season.


10.) 08 May 2018 18:32:12
I think Reina's only joining Milan if he gets to be first choice (i. e. Donnarumma leaving) .


11.) 08 May 2018 21:49:42
Reina is still one of the best in Italy. Vastly expeienced, He is a true leader at the back! His distribution is top class and Napoli plays high line. He would fit in brilliantly at Liverpool.


12.) 09 May 2018 12:30:19
Navas is truly awful and im being kind there too.


 

 

17 Apr 2018 16:00:18
Spanish guy I work with reckons we've had a bid accepted for Ceballos.

If Nevada is about, I was just wondering if you've heard anything. Your info on Spanish football is always sound.

MK Scouser

1.) 17 Apr 2018 16:37:05
Window isn't open MK how can we even bid?

{Ed002's Note - You can bid any time.}


2.) 17 Apr 2018 16:53:22
As Ed002 touched on, I believe only the changing of registration is restricted to the windows Kloppsreds17. Everything else can be done at any time in preparation for the window opening. Agreeing a fee, contract negotiations etc.


3.) 17 Apr 2018 17:02:04
Fair enough Ed. Sorry MK I stand corrected mate. Im not saying your wrong either just doubtfull imo at this stage.


4.) 17 Apr 2018 17:14:20
Not convinced by him myself from the matches I've watched him.

{Ed0333's Note - I think he’s a lovely little player. If we can get him for a smallish fee he could turn out to be another Coutinho in terms of value. He would be a positive addition to a weak midfield in my opinion.


5.) 17 Apr 2018 18:07:44
I felt the same Davey, then saw he’s only 21. He’s a decent player with the potential to be a great player in my opinion. A lot will be down to him if he can settle etc in England and get used to our style.


6.) 17 Apr 2018 18:13:07
Do you believe he's a starter from the get? Henderson, Keita, Ceballos perhaps?


7.) 17 Apr 2018 18:14:01
Agreed with Ed333, he is a good player and I think he'd thrive under Klopp. Thanks for the info MK.


8.) 17 Apr 2018 18:34:26
Amerigo - id see it as a rotation between Ceballos and Ox. Keita starts for his price tag as does Henderson with him being captain.


9.) 17 Apr 2018 19:31:55
Keita won’t start because of his price tag and Hendo doesn’t start because he’s captain. They’ll start because they’ve earned their place in the XI and because they’re the best at their respective roles at the club.


10.) 17 Apr 2018 17:28:49
Ed0333, you think he is ready to come straight into the team then mate? I guess im going on the fact he gets very little time at Madrid.

{Ed0333's Note - I wouldn’t base not getting game time as a barometer to wether he’s ready for our first team mate. Coutinho wasn’t being played by Stramaccioni at Inter and we nipped in ahead of Southampton and look how that turned out. I know our midfield is performing heroics at the moment and I don’t want to upset the status quo but we have a sub-standard midfield which needs some considerable tweaking next season. I will go on record and say if signed Ceballos will improve that area markedly. I’d be delighted with this transfer.


11.) 17 Apr 2018 17:34:33
I agree with Ed0333, the lad was class at Real Betis before making the move to Real Madrid. Things have not worked out at Real, but Zidane had not changed his line up since he has been at Real.

{Ed0333's Note - lots of negativity towards Ceballos from reds fans for some unknown reason. The fans want big money, big name players and established world class stars. Truth be told we aren’t the type of club that attracts those players and nor thankfully do we have a manager that traditionally desires those players. He nurtures them and makes them megastars. We can’t afford to spunk 90 million on a player and have him fail like United. I think Ceballos could go on and have the same impact as Nuri Sahin had for Klopp at Dortmund.


12.) 17 Apr 2018 18:17:47
Ed0333 just wondering if you were in charge of the money how much you’d be willing to pay? I know nothing of the player and just interested to see what you’d class as good fee for him.

{Ed0333's Note - if we got him for under 25 million I’d say we’ve done well but I have no idea about market forces. For example I don’t think we’ll get a penny for Danny Sturridge and some people think he’s worth £20 million, and I would never have sanctioned a £35 million transfer for The Ox and he’s made me look like a divvy.


13.) 17 Apr 2018 22:50:49
No chance in my opinion ed. His technique is nowhere near that. Vision is not the best which worries me the most for his position. Just don't see it.

{Ed0333's Note - I appreciate your opinion mate and we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. My opinion I think he’s twice the player Lallana is. How much have you seen him play Davey? Have you seen how Klopp has transformed The Ox, he may restore Dani Cabellos’ eyesight?


14.) 18 Apr 2018 07:40:01
I'd recommend people watch ceballos's games for spain u21 this season. he's taken over the free role in their midfield from asensio and smashed it, wonderful player with great potential.


15.) 18 Apr 2018 07:53:26
So does anyone or any of the eds no of any bid for the player that MK suggested yesterday then?

{Ed001's Note - Ed002 has been telling you for months that we are interested....}


16.) 18 Apr 2018 08:16:10
He has to be fair Ed001. He would be a good addition imo.


17.) 18 Apr 2018 08:18:40
It's no shame a 21 year old not playing much when they have kroos modric and Casemiro as first choice!


18.) 17 Apr 2018 21:22:25
Do we still hold an interest ed?

{Ed002's Note - RTP, use the search engine please.}


19.) 18 Apr 2018 08:52:53
Adam83. No disrespect intended here but the OP has said that he beleives we have made a bid for the player. Ed002 has explained for months we have big interest in him and is available.


20.) 18 Apr 2018 10:15:24
besides the front 3 and the increasingly steady back line, can we really say we have a nailed on starting midfield group? I don't think so, and tbh I can see our midfield group continualy rotating throughout the season to deliver the kind of energy we need all season. for me ceballos would be a welcome addition to the group. we can't have 6 Keita quality players, but we can have young and hungry guys like ceballos coming in to compete for a starting position. I think he would be good for the squad.


21.) 18 Apr 2018 11:05:52
From what I’ve seen he seems the perfect fit for Liverpool young talented and point to prove . I for 1 aprove of this move if it’s true. The 1 thing that baffles me is he being signed as a forward (ie replacement for coutinho) or as a replacement for can in midfield . Excited to see what our midfield will look like next year

Thanks for the updates eds and reds 👌🏻.


22.) 18 Apr 2018 11:14:49
You are partially right Ed333. He is better than Lallana but Lallana was bang average and was only hit for Liverpool fans! Cabellos is very similar to Lallana in playing style. A lot of tricks and flicks with no clue what to do next. Just doesn’t release the ball quick enough! Cabellos has no vision to play from the deep. He doesn’t pass when there an option. Don’t believe my words, Ask a regular Spanish football supporter! I would be utterly disappointed if we don’t add Jorginho ( who is what we are missing in that midfield)


23.) 18 Apr 2018 11:22:32
So what happens to the “Young, hungry“ Grujic? How Is Ceballos any better than Grujic. I know people are over the top when we are linked to or close to sign a player. But can we please have some perspective that we don’t do another Grujic?
On to the player. Ceballos is atleast 2 years or close to 50 games from establishing as a first teamer, which is exactly why he is looking for a move! Don’t be suprised if Real insert a “ buy back clause “.

What are his strengths that posters are raving about? He is not a good passer and that’s not his game!
Reminds me of the same excitement when we signed the Serbian Messi, Grujic!
Argument of him being better than Lallana is very naive. Lallana was already replaced by AOC last summer.
We need someojt who could control the tempo of the game sitting deep. Ceballos is not that player!

Thanks.


24.) 18 Apr 2018 14:06:55
Harry, Ceballos is a great dribbler, is strong on the ball, very composed, and is a solid passer. Most importantly, he defends very well in midfield and is very good at dispossessing the opposition. I agree with Ed333, he could be very similar for Klopp, to Nuri Sahin. He has that same kind of ability to make space for himself and launch attacks from deep with line splitting passes.

Grujic isn't in his league, which is why he had to get a loan to Cardiff, whilst Ceballos rejected Barcelona for Real Madrid.


25.) 18 Apr 2018 16:37:44
Grujic was chased by every man and his dog at his previous club which is why we paid way over the top and now we realize we made a mistake! Isn’t it?
Grujic might not be in his league but Ceballos is not in the league of first teamers either!

Ceballos doesn’t dictate game from deep, you have watched someone else. He spends hours and hours on the ball doing the turn and tricks just for the sake of it! Very much a Lallana who doesn’t dictate the game either.
Liverpool today need a top class Deep lying playmaker. A leader in the middle who will set the tone and tempo of the game.

Real Madrid buying kids is very much like Brendan buying players! They signed illermandi when he was raving success!
If he is seen as a cover ( for which he wouldn’t come to us in the first place) , then who am I to stop the transfer.

If your new center midfield recruitments for the next summer are Kieta and Ceballos then I am utterly disappointed!


26.) 18 Apr 2018 17:51:28
Just wait and see Harry. You didn't want Chamberlain either.


27.) 18 Apr 2018 22:12:26
I would be surprised if this happens. Klopp is adding goals to his mid field.
Ox has scored 7 keita has scored 9
Ceballos rarely scores. Unless klopp thinks he can improve his scoring or wants to play him as a minder I don't see it happening.
Btw Hendo Milner and Gini only scored 1 each so will be surprised if they play much next season. I suspect Hendon and Gini will move on.


28.) 18 Apr 2018 23:40:52
If we get Ceballos for less than 30mill, it will be a steal. Miles ahead of Lallana. Has the footwork and pivot work of Busquets. Just needs to sharpen his distribution. Treated badly by Zidane. Perfect project player for Klopp to bring through.


29.) 18 Apr 2018 20:07:12
Ed0333 better then lallana

I thought he was our second best player. last season after mane

Are they simular.

{Ed0333's Note - I’d say comparing cebelos to Lallana is a fair comparison. Cablelos can dictate tempo, has a trick or three and has a fair acceleration on him with ball at feet. For me cebelos is a better player than Lalana. A trio of Keita, Ox and Cebelos would be a massive upgrade on what we have now. Lalana being second best player last season doesn’t matter mate it’s what your doing now and at this moment he’s injured and not positively affecting the team.


30.) 19 Apr 2018 15:12:12
Real Madrid fans love him and don’t want him sold. They will know a lot more about him than anybody else outside the club.

Looking through his soFIFA page's comment section and they all say that he has no of pushing into the first team yet which is understandable considering who they have. but all of them want him loaned out or somehow given a chance, not to be sold.

The high quality of midfield players Madrid fans are used too, they clearly see great potential in him.


31.) 19 Apr 2018 23:32:51
Liverpool fc next year; Karius
Alexander Arnold, Clement Leglet, van Dijk, Robertson
Naby Keita, Ruben Neves, Chamberlain
Mane, Firmino, Salah
van Dijk as captain.


 

 

06 Mar 2018 10:01:34
Ed001, as you'll probably know Liverpool have got Hans Leitert in to advise the club on goalkeeping matters. Is it purely coincidence that since that happened, Karius has been made first choice in all competitions? Was that always on the cards, or has Leitert potentially (obviously we can't be 100% sure) had a hand in the decision? I don't fully understand his role or what power or influence he has.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - it was always the plan, so I have no idea if he has influenced it or not. I would assume he was in favour of it so probably did have a hand in moving it forward.}


1.) 06 Mar 2018 11:25:29
Cheers Ed. Not a lot been explained about Leitert's role so I was just curious. Thanks for the reply.


2.) 06 Mar 2018 14:33:49
I think karius needs time like de gea had and mistakes he makes in games need to be overlooked. Young goalkeepers need patience from us fans. Imagine we sell him and in 3 years time he turns out to be on the level of the very best goal keepers. Give him time and less stick.


3.) 07 Mar 2018 08:02:27
Do you think klopp waited for us to get vvd in, score establishing karius?
With vvds pace we can play a higher line, and Karius is quick off his line, and with added confidence in the back four, there's less pressure on him - if he was brought in at the start of the year, he could have been in the spotlight too much, and with the dodgy defence, lose confidence.
Karius and vvd have made our defence look a lot more solid.


 

 

 

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22 May 2018 15:11:13
Del Bosque, former Real Madrid manager, says that nobody in Liverpool's squad gets in Real Madrid's team.

Are they trying to fire us up deliberately?

MK Scouser

1.) 22 May 2018 15:22:41
What's he smoking MK😁.


2.) 22 May 2018 15:24:26
Ronaldo Firmino Salah
Kroos Casemiro Modric
Marcelo VanDijk Ramos Carvajal
Navas

?


3.) 22 May 2018 15:38:32
VakPa, I Don't even think it is that heavily in their favour to be honest. For me, Henderson is better than Casemeiro, Robertson is better than Marcelo, Arnold is at least as good as Carvajal, and Karius is better than Navas.

Casemeiro can't even get in the Madrid team let alone a combined XI. Marcelo is their biggest weak link defensively, Carvajal is just reliable without being spectacular, and Navas just isn't as good as Karius.

I'd say it is pretty fairly split to be honest. It'll be a good game, but Del Bosque says It'll be 4-1 to Real Madrid because they are miles better than us. Ha!


4.) 22 May 2018 15:50:27
Sounds to me like they're the ones running scared!


5.) 22 May 2018 16:09:41
GK: Karius gets in ahead of Navas, aka La Liga Migs.

RB: Carvajal is a decent player and has more experience than TAA.

CB: VVD and Ramos are both strong, quick centrebacks who are fantastic in the air and can be the best CBs in the world on their day. Both can lose their heads but Varane hasn't really developed much since he broke through under Mou and Lovren and Matip aren't really better than VVD or Ramos.

LB: One of the main questions of the final is whether Salah are Marcelo will put in more defensive work, and that really sums it up. Robertson might not be a world class fullback but at least he's usually around the defensive line to defend.

CDM: Casemiro is average and like the rest of the Real team, seems to have his mind on getting forward and scoring than actually defending. Henderson is superior in almost every aspect and his injury problems don't really come into a one-off match after two weeks' rest.

CMs: Modric is fantastic and needs no explanation as to why he's there. I've gone with Milner rather than Kroos which I expect will be controversial. But Milner works harder and every team needs a player like him. Also, he might not be a better passer than Kroos, but he's got a superior assists rate than Kroos so I trust him to get the ball to the forwards. He can also provide more cover on the left because I don't expect Ronaldo will do much defensively.

RW: The best winger in the world or an overhyped player who relies almost purely on pace?

LW: Ronaldo is without doubt one of the greatest goalscorers in our time and he will feed off Firmino's movement and passing.

FW: Firmino or a discount Firmino? Simple.

So, more like:

Karius
Carvajal van Dijk Ramos Robertson
Modric Henderson Milner
Salah Firmino Ronaldo.


6.) 22 May 2018 16:21:18
That makes no sense MK, talk about bias. Robertson better than Marcelo. yeah right.


7.) 22 May 2018 16:31:25
Pankaj, have you watched Marcelo play? He is a slightly better version of Moreno. He is never in place to defend, and he doesn't do enough offensively to make up for it unlike say, Dani Alves or Roberto Carlos. A truly awful player. It says it all that our best chance of winning is by targeting him!


8.) 22 May 2018 16:36:43
How can you keep Kroos out of your team.


9.) 22 May 2018 16:46:37
Zspecial, whilst I admire your commitment to Milner you're clearly drunk right now.


10.) 22 May 2018 16:51:35
Is that a joke? Robertson is much better than marcelo.


11.) 22 May 2018 16:59:15
I’d post these things up round the dressing room and tell the boys this is what they’re saying about us. That should fire them up.


12.) 22 May 2018 17:21:58
Im not a a major hendo fan but after seeing whtat he did to Roma's best player in the middle of the park I would more then back him against Casemiro, Kroos or modric not so sure though.


13.) 22 May 2018 17:31:01
VakPa do you honestly think that Navas is a better keeper than Karius? He’s not even a better keeper than Bogdan. The bloke would fumble the ball picking it out of the net.


14.) 22 May 2018 17:32:37
Henderson just isn’t flashy. You can be sure that our midfield three will work their arses off in Kiev. If we get a few chances we will score. Navas is terrible and always prone to concede.


15.) 22 May 2018 17:35:22
Karius
Carvajal Ramos VVD Marcelo
Kroos modric
Firmino
Salah Ronaldo mane.


16.) 22 May 2018 17:36:28
Marcelo is tosh, he disappears quicker than a magician's rabbit when asked to defend. Robertson isn't top class but at least he'll actually put a tackle in when required.

Also re Kroos, Milner has 9 assists in the CL this season whereas Kroos has 1. Milner is also much better defensively and has a higher work rate. Sure, Kroos is a lovely passer of the ball but football is all about the team rather than eleven individuals. So if I want to play high pressing football with Ronaldo on the left, I'm going with Milner to do the job.


17.) 22 May 2018 17:50:16
I have to say, I'd take Robertson any day of the week over Marcelo - it's not even close for me.
Robertson has been a revelation!

Especially playing against a fast, counter attacking team like ours.

Marcelo suits the Spanish league, but personally, I think he'd be ripped apart in many Prem matches if he ever moved there.


18.) 22 May 2018 18:22:37
Totally agree OK 1.


19.) 22 May 2018 18:53:14
Marcelo's role in the team isn't to defend. His primary role is to provide width and pace, along with quality in attacking positions. I'd expect it would be Casemeiro man marking Salah and doubling up as cover for Marcelo when he is around to defend.
My point is, given the system he plays in, he shouldn't be underrated because of his poor defence. Going forward he is maybe the best in the world and he will most definitely be a threat in this Final.

I'll still take Robbo because I bloody love him.


20.) 22 May 2018 18:56:10
I literally would even take Marcelo in a swap deal for Mignolet, if he had Asensio in his back pocket. Most over rated player in Europe. Not even in the top 20 left backs, in an era where great wing backs are few and far between. I can't fully express how low I rate him.


21.) 22 May 2018 19:02:34
Karius isn't better than Navas yet.
Marcelo is better offensively than Robertson yes he growth a lot this season but he is not there yet.
Carvajal is better than A. Arnold for now.
Ramos Is better than Matip, Lovren, Klavan, Gomez.
VanDijk proved us he is one of the best defenders.
Casemiro do a better job defensively than Henderson.
Modric is a better CM than Milner, Lallana, Ox, Gini.
Kroos is better too and if you can swap Kroos for any of them you would.
Salah is the king.
Ronaldo you know why.
Firmino better than w/ e left in the madrid team.


22.) 22 May 2018 19:30:03
Karius is miles better than Navas. Navas is an accident waiting to happen and has been at fault for Madrid’s league woes by his inability to deal with basics. You can’t have been watching Navas these last few years as he’s worse than Mignolet.


23.) 22 May 2018 19:33:47
Vakpa, I'm with MK on this one. Navas is not better than Karius and he is EIGHT YEARS his senior at 32 vs 24 for Karius. Casemiro is not a patch on Hendo as he is woeful in possession, a poor tackler, lacks positional awareness and lacks the passing range Hendo possesses. None of their CB's are a patch on VVD while Marcelo is as poor a defender at LB as you will ever find. Robbo is not the finished article BUT I'll take him over Marcelo any day. Salah and Mane over Bale and Vazquez while Bobbie over Benzema. CR7 needs no introduction. I think I just about covered it.

As for Del Bosque's statement, well as they say, having an opinion is like having an arse. Everyone's got one.

{Ed025's Note - so it looks like a very easy win for liverpool then brover?..


24.) 22 May 2018 19:40:50
Agree about Marcelo, MKS. For someone who actually likes the defensive side of things, I find watching Marcelo almost painful.


25.) 22 May 2018 19:44:20
Not easy ed025. But we’re not the walkover they’re expecting!

{Ed025's Note - i dont think they expect that at all FMS, my money is on liverpool though in what i hope is an exciting game with both teams looking to score from the start mate..


26.) 22 May 2018 19:58:59
I have no words 🙄.

{Ed025's Note - why,s that mate?..


27.) 22 May 2018 20:06:29
Agreed zpecialone. It is like a cheese grater on my retinas watching Marcelo.

Ed025, I think they have a few players who'd get in our side and vice versa. I'd say Karius, Virgil, Robbo, Salah and Firmino all get in their team. But, Ramos, Modric, Kroos, Isco and Ronaldo all get in our team. That is 5:5. At right back, Trent and Carvajal are evenly matched for me.

Player for player, I think we are evenly split. It will be about who plays better as a team on the day. I just hope that is us.

They are very over confident though. Apparently their players, coaches and manager all think we are their worst final opponents in recent history and they're all calm and confident of a comfortable win. And that is the club president who said That!

Nail that to the wall in the dressing room and Don't bother with a team talk.

{Ed025's Note - if that is the case MKS then it makes my case even stronger mate..


28.) 22 May 2018 20:15:02
Nice one, Ed25.


29.) 22 May 2018 20:20:25
Im all for suporting your own players, but common guys. other than maybe Firmino and Salah it would be Real players only.


30.) 22 May 2018 20:32:47
Well, reluctantly I think Liverpool may well blow Madrid away in the first half hour but if I’m picking a combined eleven then I’m nit sure Liverpool dominate it. If they do then kill me now.


31.) 22 May 2018 20:33:11
People do realise Marcelo was voted as left back in the world team of the year for 2017.


32.) 22 May 2018 20:42:09
Salah, Firmino, VVD and Hendo. Those are the 4 that might get in their team. But football isn't played based on comparing positions.
Madrid have the advantage - their experience and Ronaldo.


33.) 22 May 2018 20:43:00
Pretty sure Migs would get in over Navas 😉.


34.) 22 May 2018 21:10:43
Holy Ravioli. The sly old Del Bosque starts his mind games, and the LFC page erupts with volcanic ash going higher than Mt. Kilauea. 🤣

I'm staying out of this one because it's an endless discussion. It's how a team's players play together within a predefined style or system that matters, for me. Far more than their individual value. Otherwise we have no business being in that final. 😉.


35.) 22 May 2018 21:14:56
Football is not about individuals. To my memory there has only been one player close to a “one man team” and that was Diego Maradonna. He made rank average teams into champions and on his day was utterly unplayable.

This is about a team. I don’t care who gets into the best XI, I’m telling you Liverpool has the best TEAM and as a result we will win this match 👍🏆.


36.) 22 May 2018 21:43:39
If I were say psg and had to chose between signing Ronaldo or mane today, now, I would sign mane. Ronaldo is finished now. One of the best players ever, maybe the best but he is a shadow of his former self. I love the way real seem to be underestimating mane and focusing on salah and Firmino. I'm backing mane to score at least once, I could see him getting a hat trick.

{Ed0333's Note - Ronaldo finished? That’s a controversial statement. Not as great as he was yes but he isn’t by any stretch of the imagination finished.


37.) 22 May 2018 22:32:16
If none are good enough why have Real been chasing Salah all season?


38.) 22 May 2018 23:10:05
Biggest game of the season. Personally I think they’re not as good a team as City, but they’re still tough. Can we beat them? Yes. If we bring our A game we can. A first half blitz like Roma and Porto kills the game.


39.) 23 May 2018 00:46:00
I think marcelos positioning and our exploitation of it will decide the result. He will definitely be seen as a weakness with lots of diagonal runs from Salah.

Either way I've booked in for a heart transplant.


40.) 22 May 2018 23:29:35
Fair enough ed0333 but his balon d'or days are over and I stand by my statement of taking mane over cr7 today.

It's easy to say real have the better players and not many liverpool players would get in their team. I'm not so sure but, but we have the better manager and the best player on the park. Zz has done well but he has been at the best club with the best players blah blah, I would not swap him for klopp, no way.


41.) 23 May 2018 01:56:25
Karius
Trent - Lovren - VVD - Robertson
Gini - Hendo - Milner
Salah - Firmino - Mane

Ronaldo is still one of the greatest ever players, but he doesn’t tackle back like Firmino which is so important to our structure and I doubt we’d be nearly as effective in our overall attacking system with him upfront.

Their midfield is better than ours in many respects but can they play the Liverpool way for more than 60mins? I doubt it, they don’t have the pace and energy required to keep up that sort of intensity IMO.

Marcelo is clearly a better and more experienced player vs Robbo but we’d be torn a new one with him so high all the time.

Ramos may be better than Lovren but would I want him in our dressing room? Not so sure.

We clearly aren’t the best man for man in every position, but we have the best players available to play Klopps system right now. You can’t swap a player in here and there and expect the team to play like a well oiled machine.

Besides, these are all our lads. Not just any players, but Reds who have given their all to get here. Biased yes, but right now I wouldn’t change a thing.

Let’s go smash them with a three musketeers hatrick (one each from Mane, Firmino and Salah) . Allez Allez Allez!


 

 

22 May 2018 13:01:43
I'm confident about us getting Ousmane Dembele done. Not Fekir though. I think Lyon are going to play hard ball and we will walk away. Klopp openly admitted interest in Dembele though, and Barcelona are trying to sell him to raise funds. It is a deal which suits all parties.

MK Scouser

1.) 22 May 2018 13:28:48
But we need a Fekir type player rather than Dembele type MK. don't get me wrong he is a good player but we need a AM player.


2.) 22 May 2018 13:31:04
Dembele has had consecutive serious hamstring injuries, which given our experience with Owen and Sturridge should ring alarm bells. I suspect he’s made out of crisps. I reckon at £100m we’d do well to not get on board this one as it’s a lot to pay for a player with so much risk, notwithstanding his Balotelli like reputation.


3.) 22 May 2018 14:41:56
Just saying I think it is likely lads. I'll let you debate the ins and outs of it.


4.) 22 May 2018 14:47:19
Though I would add that Dembele can play anywhere in a 3 behind a striker (including centre attacking midfield), and his last two injuries were both thigh injuries according to official reports.

I think Klopp would get him on the right path.


5.) 22 May 2018 14:56:14
As much as Lyon are hard to deal with this is usually to extort several more million than they would have otherwise got, especially if an English team are the ones buying. Saying that if you offer them enough money (what they want) they will sell.
So I say Fekir is a possibility if LFC don’t mind being ripped off.

Dembele is a bit of an odd one though, a loan with an option to buy would be the way to go for me, Barcelona want to sell though so that might be the crucial element as I would only buy him at a knock down price to what Barcelona payed.


6.) 22 May 2018 15:15:16
Mikey, I'm just going by Aulas' comments. They Don't want to sell, and they believe he wants to stay. If he's correct and Fekir isn't pushing to leave, then Lyon can just dig their heels in and refuse to do business. They Don't like selling to English clubs.

I'm not saying it won't happen. Just that I 'm sceptical. It seems like it could rumble on and I think Premier League teams won't have time for drawn out sagas this summer. They'll just move on.


7.) 22 May 2018 15:20:32
No interest in Dembele personally.
Look at his behaviour to move from BVB to Barcelona last summer, it's all too common place now if you ask me - if he had a good season or two with us, he'll force his way out to the next big transfer again without hesitation (PSG/ Real) .

I know people will say VVD did the same and that's fair enough to use that as an argument possibly, but he's not going anywhere for the foreseeable future IMO - we were the big club VVD wanted, Dembele would drop us like a hot rock to move to Barca/ Real/ Bayern/ PSG once his form picked up.


8.) 22 May 2018 15:48:12
Virgil and Mane arevthe same Kev, and so is Keita. Attitudes can be managed. At least he doesn't randomly bite people!

On ability, Dembele is still one of the top 5 young attacking players in Europe for me. Mbappe, Asensio, Sane, Dybala and Dembele are my bets to be the best players of their generation, and I'd back Klopp to sort out whatever attitude issues Dembele has. He still managed 4 goals and 9 assists in just 1200 minutes of football last season. In my opinion, we are not in any position to be turning our noses up at one of the best players in Europe because he is a bit stroppy. Otherwise, we might as well get rid of Virgil, Keita and Mane!


9.) 22 May 2018 17:01:45
It’s been said he’s a bit of an arse, but they said that about Mane, so that’s an irrelevance. What is relevant is the real prospect of lashing out £100+ on a dud who pulls a hammy every time he breaks anything bearing a sprint. That’s economic insanity.


10.) 22 May 2018 17:22:18
Wasn’t Klopps ‘interest’ in jest in an interview.


11.) 22 May 2018 17:26:32
Like I said before MK, he's not for me personally but I could well be wrong and respect your opinion of course.


12.) 22 May 2018 17:43:50
No worries Kev. There is risk attached to him, but I think there is with every transfer.


13.) 22 May 2018 18:35:11
I think we sill get them both with either lallana or milner making way. I know what you mean mk, about lyon owner, I reckon they are going to sdt a massive price 90 mil or sum in but we can't as f Ford to keep walking away from top players, we have to take the risk this summer. Didn't spend anywhere near the 200 mil that was reportedly our budget last summer, since then we've sold coutinio and bought Vvd. Go for it and sign both,


14.) 22 May 2018 19:43:34
PH, I doubt we will be getting both Dembele and Fekir so I would pump the breaks on that if I were you cos like it or not, attack is not our issue and all we need is depth in wide areas and pauing 90m for depth, makes NO business nor football sense.

MK, Fekir has said that he is happy at Lyon BUT "No one signs a life contract at any club so we shall see". This means that he is interested in a move and we are the only ones interested for now and he seems keen to make the jump. I agree that Aulas is a true piece of work to do business with as he has fleeced quite a lot of English clubs in the past (Malouda, for example when he sold him to Chelsea) BUT if Fekir wants to leave, there is nothing Aulas can do about it. IMO, I think the deal will happen.

As for Dembele, Ed02 has said that they want all their money back for what they got him for cos not only is he injury prone, he is a complete piece of work on and off the pitch. For 90m? No way and I will believe it when I see it.


15.) 23 May 2018 00:33:44
Dembele deal if it happens has to be a loan surely with the amount of money he would cost considering what Barcelona paid for him?

If that's the case its a pretty risk free chance to take, makes sense and leaves room in the kitty for other signings.

If its just straight up transfers we are talking about id forget dembele and buy bailey if it was possible. Spend the rest on a centre back.

As i've stated before in earlier posts bailey would be my number one target for the final third. Ill cry of he goes to city.

Fekir i had never even thought of until the rumours started but he would be quality all day long.

It is most likely crazy paper talk but figures quoted recently

Toby alderweirld 55 million
Leon bailey 55 million
Christian pulisic 40 million
Nabil fekir 60 million

210 million. that's the fantasy world that's having a party in my head right now.

Reality and likelyhood of players wanting to come kicks in and im thinking

Fekir
Keita
Dembele (loan)
And a centre back (someone to at the very least seriously push lovern for a place)

That would be a transfer window that hardly anyone could argue with.

Exciting times on the horizon no matter who comes in.

Klopp is building a bulldozer of a team. His system truely deserves another world class centre half though. I almost feel soory for him at times because his style is beautiful to watch and the thin line he treads at times he could get away with even more if there was another world class cb besid virgil who was also quality on the ball. (fantasy world again lol)

That not a massive dig at lovern who can be great when he is on it. just merely an observation.


 

 

19 May 2018 19:36:55
7 out of 11 players for Man U today against Chelsea, signed for the club whilst Alex Ferguson was in charge. He retired 6 years ago (Sanchez, Pogba, Matic and Herrera the exceptions) .

Against Brighton, 7 out of 11 players for Liverpool signed for the club whilst Jurgen Klopp was in charge. He's been here 3 years (Lovren, Arnold, Henderson and Firmino the exceptions) .

Never underestimate the power of good recruitment. Klopp is taking us places 👍.

MK Scouser

1.) 19 May 2018 20:24:41
I’m not sure you can count Rashford and Lingard as being signed by Ferguson, they both came through the youth system.


2.) 19 May 2018 21:07:54
Also would point out that some of those 7 in our team signed by Klopp have are being called to be sold so what you're saying is a bit random. Vvd Salah, Mane and Robertson the only ones safe from the supporters chop.


3.) 19 May 2018 21:24:22
Well the supporters don't pick the team mate, and Karius, Gini and Solanke are going nowhere. So they should probably get over it 😉

If you can't count Rashford or Lingard, Smeg (which you can in my opinion because Ferguson controlled everything at United from top to bottom and was more of a DOF) then surely we can say Arnold counts as a Klopp player because he was an academy player who made his debut under him? So that argument goes both ways.

The point is that Klopp is signing players to take us forward. United are still relying on Ferguson's players and products of his academy that he picked out as youngsters. Once his influence on the team and the Academy has completely dried up, they will be reduced to the likes of Lindelof, Pogba and Sanchez; and frankly, it is hilarious!


4.) 19 May 2018 21:34:23
I disagree, Kloppshop. MKL is correct and there is nothing random about his post. The 7 players in our starting 11 vs Brighton were signed by Klopp and even tho some have been BOOM from day one, it took others time to get going while the rest are still contributing (like Klavan, Karius etc) even tho, someone like Karius still needs to improve. Those are the facts and facts are not random. They are stubborn.


5.) 20 May 2018 00:06:23
Ferguson left an aging squad yes, but he left one that had just won the league. Klopp inherited one that was struggling in the league, changes had to be made. I'm sure bailly would have started to if fully fit, lukaku too, which then makes 6.
I don't see how it's hilarious that players are signed by a certain person. Really dislike mourinho and his style is awful, but he's still won more at United that klopp has at Liverpool, no matter how many players he has signed.


 

 

18 May 2018 08:20:31
Regarding Tarkowski I am all for it and here is my superstitious reason Why.

I was playing a manager career on my release day copy of FIFA 13, with Oldham Athletic, and I built my team around him. Ended up about 5 seasons down the line, in an FA cup final and 3rd in the Premier League early in the 6th year, I decided to take the Liverpool job and rescue them from relegation by signing in January, yours truly, James Tarkowski to replace the middle aged Martin Skrtel. I took them from 16th to 4th. But here is where it gets good; the next season was the 18/ 19 season and I of course made Tarkowski my rock at the back even though he was rated 68 because he was still a beast (I mean I'd spent half a decade developing him) and I took Liverpool from 4th to winning the title! I subsequently won the league 2 more seasons on the spin before I had to return to Oldham to stop them from being relegated.

We just finished 4th lads and now we might sign Tarkowski! So next season, put your house on the Premiership docking in Liverpool! Tarkowski is going to bring it home for the next 3 years lads! Forget his actual ability, this has been written in the stars since about December 2012! 😂.

MK Scouser

1.) 18 May 2018 08:34:39
Sign him up lol.


2.) 18 May 2018 08:56:30
Not seen enough of Tarkowski to judge, but then, unless the CB's name is Alderweireld, I don't think any other CB can make me happy. Lol.
I believe it would be one of Dembele/ Fekir, not both.
Not seen enough of Ceballos, but he seems to be "rated". If Gundogan wasn't injured so much, I would say we should rival Inter Milan for him (assuming he leaves cos of Jorginho) .
Don't mind Butland, as long as he doesn't come in expecting to be handed a starting role.


3.) 18 May 2018 09:18:25
In all seriousness realtofel, I think Tarkowski would be competition just to keep Lovren on his toes. He is certainly better than Matip who I'd assume will leave as Tarkowski is a right sided centre back and Klavan plays on the left.

As for Ceballos, he is a top talent. He'd phase Hendo out gradually over the next couple of seasons.

Butland, Ed001 has said would be back up. So that is fine.

As for Fekir and Dembele, why can't we sign both? We currently have Mane, Firmino, Salah, Ox and Solanke to fill 4 positions based on our Brighton system. Because Ings, Origi and Sturridge will all be available for sale.

So if we signed Dembele and Fekir that would give us 7 players for the "Fab 4" positions, with most likely Solanke and Dembele as the players fighting for a starting role as they are both still 20/ 21. Over a 60 game season, all 7 of them would get plenty of game time. Except Ox who probably won't play again until January/ February.

Man City have Sane, Sterling, Aguero, Jesus, B. Silva, D. Silva and Zinchenko all fighting over 4 positions in their team. We need that level of depth so that we can fight for the league and all 3 cups just like City have done. They will probably sell D. Silva, but knowing them they'll only go and sign Mahrez for £90m! We have to not only keep up, but also catch up!


4.) 18 May 2018 09:42:38
I agree with you MK signing both Fekir/ Dembele. I would just be pleasantly surprised if we actually did.
Personally, I feel our attack will always be lethal. It's the other part of the team that we need to work on. I'm not saying Tarkowski isn't good enough, like I said, I haven't really seen him. However, I believe we need another high-class CB. I'm not writing Tarkowski off, I just hope he would be what we need if we do sign him.


5.) 18 May 2018 10:03:30
MK. I can’t take what you have said as gospel mate.
Your telling us, you have time away from this site to do something else! Ha.


6.) 18 May 2018 10:37:29
I'm not worried about our defence at all now realtofel.

In Karius' 19 Premier League games we conceded just 14 goals, and kept 10 clean sheets. Compare that to the 24 goals we conceded in Mignolet's 19 games and it is clear to see that our defence has basically been a scapegoat the whole time because of Mignolet.

We actually had one of the lowest shots conceded records in the league all season, but unfortunately everything just went straight through Mignolet. They only needed one on target to score. Karius actually makes saves though. It is weird to see because I hadn't seen a Liverpool keeper make a save since 2012.

If you project Karius' record across a full season, he would likely concede less than 30 goals and keep close to 20 Clean sheets.


7.) 18 May 2018 11:04:21
I still am concerned though. 19 games isn't 38 games, plus games in Europe. Say 50 in a season.
Constantly rotating VVD's partner isn't good enough IMO. Think of Rio-Vidic, Puyol-Pique. Most cbs that perform at a high level do so while playing most games together.
Maybe I'm just unnecessarily worried, but for me, the key investments should be in defence.


8.) 18 May 2018 11:43:30
True realtofel, but 13 goals in 12 Champions League games is pretty good too, considering the consistent quality of opposition; 8 games against Roma, City, Porto and Sevilla!

That's 25 goals in 31 games in total. Keep the faith mate. Klopp is gradually fixing all of our problems. We'll challenge next season. Count on it!


9.) 18 May 2018 12:07:30
27 goals in 31 games*

Gazza, back in 2012 I was just 18 and only studying in college 4 days a week. Plenty of time to procrastinate and play FIFA!


10.) 18 May 2018 12:39:12
to be honest MK, you've massively underachieved in your fifa career. I've won 8 BPL's and 6 champs league with hartlepool utd on mine!


11.) 18 May 2018 14:07:20
FIFA 10 was my baby, 87red. I carried my mates to division 1 on pro clubs. Smashed my (then) best mate 4-0 in the first half as Galatasaray when he was Barca. He punched me and refused to play the second half and to this day has never spoken to me again. Inter Milan were my go to team online. I still remember my XI and formation. 4-3-1-2: Cesar, Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Chivu, Zanetti, Snjeider, Stankovic, Pandev, Milito and Eto'o! Never lost a game in nearly 200 online ranked matches. In fact it was rare if I conceded!

I'm convinced that is why I failed 6th form. You are right though. I've been terrible every FIFA since then. Can't get past Professional difficulty. It's girls mate. They distract you from what is really important 😭.


 

 

17 May 2018 12:19:23
Two huge events this weekend lads! Which one will you be watching?

Thumbs down for Paint drying.

Thumbs up for Ed001 shaving Ed025's back and feet.

MK Scouser

1.) 17 May 2018 12:38:32
Which channel are they on? ;)


2.) 17 May 2018 12:41:12
Is it pay per view?


3.) 17 May 2018 12:46:20
The paint drying is on Dave. Followed by Storage Hunters and Scrapheap Challenge. So get a crate of Carlsberg in and buckle up!

Ed025 being shaved is going to be live streamed on Babestation though, and will last roughly 8 hours depending on how the razors hold up (his great, great grandchildren call him Chewbacca) .


4.) 17 May 2018 13:28:33
Love it mk 😂.


5.) 17 May 2018 21:31:11
MK, I think I'll pay top dollar to watch Ed01 shave Ed25's feet and back cos I'm scared that my eyes would fall out of my head or I'll stab my eyeballs with a Wolfgang Puck knife if I have to watch that dross from you know who at Wembley.


 

 

 

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23 May 2018 23:47:08
Brover, you have to remember that a YouTube highlight reel will focus primarily on goals and assists. Most of these came whilst he was playing in attacking positions (naturally) . So his YouTube highlights only tend to show him in games he played further forward. It would be a boring highlight reel if it was him intercepting a passes, making tackles and playing a forward pass to the attacking midfielders.

You'd have to research him more extensively than YouTube. Watch him in full games. Read detailed scout reports and player profiles etc. YouTube only picks out exciting bits and doesn't comprehensively cover everything about any player.

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23 May 2018 16:14:59
I have no idea what position the player prefers barnsey, but he has made 131 senior appearances, and 65 of those he started the game as a deeper midfielder. He has started 38 other games either on the left midfield, attacking midfield or the right midfield. Sub appearance positioms aren't recorded.

He is much better in the deeper midfield roles, because he is not a quick dribbler and doesn't score many goals. He wouldn't fit the attacking roles in our system at all. He is still only very young and has been used as something of a utility player for most of his career so far, but his best position from what I have seen is definitely in a traditional midfield role. I actually think he'd be better in a midfield two myself, alongside Keita or Henderson.

If he was the sole holding player in a midfield 3, he might get overwhelmed at this age, with his lack of experience. The Spanish football fans liken him to Luka Modric. He is basically a midfield playmaker who can also chip in defensively (he loves a tackle), but he can also cover the more attacking roles to an okay level. He's not a pure defensive midfielder for sure, but neither is Henderson. Klopp Doesn't play an orthodox DM.

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23 May 2018 13:48:37
Cheers for the insight Ed. Like hjikle, I hope he does well too. He came with a big reputation!

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23 May 2018 10:10:23
Benny, get me a medium kit if you can 😂 I'm 5ft8. A large will drown me 👀.

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23 May 2018 08:16:55
Ceballos would be a great signing because his potential is huge. Hosever, if he isn't fully committed (assuming this is true) then we dodged a bullet.

Nothing worse than Johnny Foreigner coming to England and sulking because the weather isn't great and the food is greasy. He's not so good that their are no alternativess.

Go land Doucoure instead. He's been flirting with us in the media anyway 😂.

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24 May 2018 10:36:00
They are a bank so they are bound to be corrupt or unethical to some extent. Bankers and lawyers take up 75% of the space in hell. 20% is a place called New Manchester (there is a reason they're called the red devils) . The other 5% is reserved for Mourinho and his huge head.

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24 May 2018 10:32:06
The last 3 finals we've lost (Chelsea FA cup, City League Cup, and Sevilla in Europa) I thought we were the better team. We just made rookie mistakes at key times, or didn't take our chances.

Look at the City final. We lost the cup final, and then murdered them 3-0 less than a week later. Luck plays a huge part in cup finals. Hopefully this one goes our way!

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24 May 2018 08:20:50
Great post mate. I reckon it'll be close but I hope we win 5-0 just to shock the world!

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24 May 2018 08:03:04
Good point on the celebration Prince Hendo, but i've tried hitting a few volleys like That, dropping over my shoulder from a long ball forward, and I've only ever caught one right in a game. Even then it was still too central and the keeper stopped it. The rest all got dragged wide or went for a conversion 😂 so for me, Vardy doing it on his weaker foot was simply stunning. I'm not sure we'll see it again.

Overhead kicks and mazey runs happen 10-15 times a season. A full volley over the shoulder off a 50 yard pass though? That is special.

Football is all opinions though. Nobody sees it the same. They were all great goals! Though I was disappointed in them for leaving out Mane vs Man City. That was easily top 5 this season. Right in the corner swerving away from the keeper. Unstoppable.

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24 May 2018 07:57:54
Their team has gaping holes in it but I'm not sure it is weak. They have average defenders, average keepers, and aside from Ronaldo, average forwards. That midfield is stellar though; Kroos, Modric, Asensio, Isco, Kovacic, Ceballos and Casemeiro. The only team in Europe to better that is Man City.

Luckily for us, our midfield is perfect for disrupting a top class midfield who want the ball. I'm not sure a squad with Ronaldo in it can ever be called weak though. He has over 40 Champions League goals in the last 3 seasons alone. This is his competition. It's up to us to take it from him.

Zidane is the profiteer of Ronaldo brilliance.

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