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18 Dec 2016 11:29:14
Hi Eds, not seen it mentioned for a while now. Where do we stand with regards to recruiting more firepower up top?

I don't for one second think Pulisic is a realistic option and you have answered this sufficiently. I'm more inclined to believe the Azmoun or Promes rumours. Azmoun is only contracted for 2 more years, and Promes is openly available for an albeit hefty price tag. Scrolled right down the page and couldn't find any recent updates. My apologies if I am asking you to repeat yourselves.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - why believe any? Azmoun has been watched, but that's all.}


 

 

31 Aug 2016 09:12:37
Heard a rumour this morning that we may make a last minute push for Leeds left back, Charlie Taylor.

No idea how true this is, just got talking to the cashier in the petrol station and he seemed adamant.

MK Scouser

{Ed002's Note - As I said previously I would not totally discount it. However, Leeds did get a significant offer from another EPL side yesterday.}


1.) 31 Aug 2016 09:37:17
Was it Everton ed.

{Ed002's Note - No.}


2.) 31 Aug 2016 09:58:20
I believe he might end up on Merseyside playing for the team in blue.


3.) 31 Aug 2016 09:58:41
He got destroyed by Oliver Burke on Saturday. the 19 year old who just left forest. It's Burke we should have got.


4.) 31 Aug 2016 11:02:10
Burke looks great, but unless it was a buy then loan he wouldn't have played.


5.) 31 Aug 2016 11:18:59
I think Klopp made a conscious decision quite some time back ago to not go for a left back (after the Chilwell botching), because he trusts Milner enough to do an adequate job in the position. It also frees up one place in an already crowded midfield (in addition to Milner's rumored "must play" contract clause) . Where do you play Milner now that Mane is in the team? If Milner can bring the same hardwork and effort to the LB position as he did on the wing, then we'll surely be better off than with the risky Moreno. The differences are obvious and glaring. I agree with Ed001 that playing a righty on the left side is a weakness. But it'a not a perfect world. I'd be more than surprised if anyone is brought in before tonight's deadline.


6.) 31 Aug 2016 13:44:08
A buy then loan would have suited all parties, the way he was improving at forest they must have been doing something right. We should send a couple youngsters there way, seem to do well, bamford lascelles darlow burke in the last couple of years came through the academy.

{Ed002's Note - That is not how loans work.}


7.) 31 Aug 2016 16:57:13
I can't see how we can hope to reach top 4 with Milner as our left back. Don't get me wrong he does a decent job there but his positional awareness for that position isn't good enough and will cost us goals similar to the spurs goal. I'm very surprised a manager of Klopps ability hasn't focused on bringing in a top left back when he payed 25 million for a player we didn't really need.


8.) 31 Aug 2016 18:37:45
"I can't see how we can hope to reach top 4 with Milner as our left back"

We won the CL with Djimi Traore in that position, and I rate Milner more highly than him at LB.


9.) 31 Aug 2016 20:26:05
to what ed 2 said Rest of the squad salaries are listed below and the data is taken from trusted sources like Guardian, BBC, Premierleague. com etc.

Daniel Sturridge and James Milner are the two highest paid players in Liverpool ranks with both taking home £120,000 a week salary. Captain Henderson and Coutinho who signed new financially improved deals last year earn £100,000 a week.
Liverpool Player Wages and Contracts 2016-17.


10.) 01 Sep 2016 23:24:04
NE red are people not allowed to learn anymore? Are players just born a position on the pitch and that can never be altered? The more he plays, trains and thinks like a full back the better he will become. I really do hate this 'he's not a left back' rubbish. He has all the attributes to be a decent left back (aside from being right footed but I don't see that as a massive issue) so if he puts his mind to it and is taught the role his positioning will improve. It's really not that hard to understand.


 

 

28 May 2016 23:45:30
Could be total rubbish but I've heard that Klopp is interested in Nicola Sansone.

MK Scouser

1.) 29 May 2016 00:05:33
Hope not, Italians have never settled well at Anfield. Those mummies boys should be avoided.


2.) 29 May 2016 01:32:57
He is German I think, just grew up and plays in Italy. Looks to have the pace to cope with English football. Never seen him actually play though. Just watched him on YouTube when I heard the rumour today.


3.) 29 May 2016 13:22:57
Workshy fop are there any players that you will be happy with? it seems like you would only be interested in signing massive reputation players? We only need to look at the improvement in some players since Klopp has arrived (lallana and Firminho to name just 2) and he has a reputation for turning cheaper/ younger/ Unknown players into world beaters so whoever he's interested in we should trust his judgement surely.


4.) 29 May 2016 12:57:40
Sorry MK but given our track record with Italian footballers, I'd much rather stay well away.


5.) 29 May 2016 13:40:24
I've noticed that lordpud, every player that gets mentioned him and mr dennis rubbish them, it doesn't matter who they are, when you play football manager all day long you tend not too like any football players unless their in your Xbox team, oh and for heaven sake don't mention Yarmalenko, you'll open up a whole tin of worms if you do.


6.) 29 May 2016 14:30:38
After Balotelli, Padelli, Aquilani and Borini, I think that would be enough to say we should give Italian players a swerve as they simply don't work hard enough and don't have the mentality to adapt. It's not a matter of playing football manager or Fifa. I don't play either, it's just that you look at players like Long, Mane, Walcott, Oxlade, Yarmalenko or Zielinski and you have to question what our scouts are actually up to if they consider them anywhere near good enough or will rectify the problems from last season? If we went after Kante, Goetze/ Reus, Hector and Sule / Subotic. All of those would cover our weaknesses and would be a significant upgrade.

{Ed001's Note - Borini is an absolute grafter.....}


7.) 29 May 2016 14:53:57
I can think of a good few Italian players that have done well in the premier league, for example, Maccarone, Zola, Di Canio, Vialli, Ravanelli, Cudicini, Di Matteo, Carbone, the bald eagle Lombardo, Festa, I'm sure there could be a few more, so it makes your post seem daft.


8.) 29 May 2016 15:28:59
How many have been successful at Liverpool? Answer me that one?
As for your list, Maccarone was a flop. Lombardo, Ravanelli and Carbone all got home sick. Only really Zola, DiCanio, DiMatteo and to an extent Festa were successful and Cudicini was a bench warmer for most of his time. As far as I'm concerned Italian players should be kept clear of.

{Ed001's Note - neither Ravanelli nor Carbone left because they were homesick. Utter rubbish. You read too many tabloids, as evidenced by the bigotry of deciding a whole nation is useless because a few players failed.}


9.) 29 May 2016 18:06:46
Workshy, I just heard a rumour from an Italian nurse whilst I was in hospital and thought i'd share! No need for the bigoted rant buddy!


10.) 29 May 2016 17:26:19
His whole time in England Carbone was said to hate the weather and wanted to return Italy as soon as he could and Ravanelli couldn't wait to leave (although in fairness I've been to boro and it's not exactly the cote d'azure) .

All I'm saying is given that we've had absolutely no succes with Italian players, we should give them the widest berth possible as it would be simply a case of more money being frittered away on players who either aren't good enough or simply don't fancy it.


11.) 29 May 2016 23:50:54
I like Fabio Borini to be honest and it is unfair to compare him to Danielle Padelli, Alberto Aquilani or Mario Balotelli as he settled well and worked hard for us.


12.) 30 May 2016 17:49:21
+1 to Ed 001.
You can't slate a player as laking graft because of his nationality, Workshy, that's just bigotry.


13.) 30 May 2016 23:24:15
Back in the day one of my favourite non-Liverpool players of Italian descent was Eddie Firmani. Should have had a much more successful career.


14.) 31 May 2016 00:00:24
Ian Rushdie and john alderidge were Italian! Wait I got them mixed up with the super Mario bros! Sorry!


15.) 30 May 2016 23:24:15
Back in the day one of my favourite non-Liverpool players of Italian descent was Eddie Firmani. Should have had a much more successful career.


16.) 31 May 2016 00:00:24
Ian Rushdie and john alderidge were Italian! Wait I got them mixed up with the super Mario bros! Sorry!


 

 

27 May 2016 22:05:59
Ed002, I just saw a report saying we are after Franco Vazquez. Normally I'd dismiss random reports, but I'm sure you mentioned that we had scouted him this season?

Any chance we might have genuine interest in signing him?

MK Scouser

{Ed002's Note - Milan have enquired about the availability of Palermo's Franco Vazquez and were told that he would be allowed to leave in the summer if an offer of more than €30M were made. That would be enough to scare off Inter and Sevilla who have looked at him since the beginning of the season. Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs have scouted the player this season with Juventus Liverpool and Manchester United showed increased interest during the January window, but Milan seem confident a move will happen in the summer.}


1.) 28 May 2016 00:36:07
Isn't Zamparini just as difficult to deal with as Aulas, Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Not easy but not as difficult.}


2.) 28 May 2016 15:34:11
klopps not stupid. If he wants them he will get them. Prime example Gotze says he wants to stay and fight for his place. What happens? Bayern drop the price eventually we will sign him
for far less.


 

 

03 May 2016 22:41:54
Well today has been an eventful one. According to reports, we signed Chilwell at 11am, Horn at 1pm, Tierney at 4pm, Hart at 8pm, Courtois at 9pm and Zielinski at 10pm.

At least we have good options in goal next season now. Mignolet 4th choice!

MK Scouser

1.) 04 May 2016 00:29:50
Can't take the risk with him 4th choice. Let's get Zieler too 😎.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2017 18:57:21
I saw somebody say the other day that Suso is the only player we gave up on who is now having a good career. Got to partially disagree there though!

In terms of just youth players who are now successful top flight players, yes it it very few and far between. Essentially just Suso for AC Milan, and Gulacsi for RB Leipzig. 2 players we clearly canned way too soon.

On top of this though you have Carroll who we chucked after a season now looking like West Hams best player, Aspas playing some blinding football at Celta Vigo, Connor Coady looking a class above in the Championship, Spearing who has captained Bolton, Benteke top scoring for Palace and I'm sure there are others. Perhaps they were only squad level players, but we turfed them out still. Some possibly rightly, some possibly wrongly.

I will agree that very few players from our academy have hit the heights of Suso and Gulacsi but I think we as a club have a really bad track record of giving up on players too soon. We could've signed Moses a few seasons back but opted not to make the loan permanent. Now he is a first team player for Chelsea. I do think a large part of our academy players not transitioning well into the senior game is due to the lack of planning for their development though.

I still think we gave up on Ibe, Teixeira, Smith, Ilori and Canos too early. No doubt Brannagan, Ward, Sturridge, Ings and Flanagan will be the next few to be prematurely thrown onto the scrap heap! Then everyone will bleat about how they told us they weren't good enough, despite their lack of success being largely the fault of LFC! Typical.

MK Scouser

1.) 21 Feb 2017 19:24:40
I disagree, mainly, because I feel like if we kept most of the players you've mentioned, they would never have reached the level they're playing at. For example, I loved Suso but how many chances would he realistically have gotten if he stayed? At Milan, he's first choice so he has opportunities to develop and progress. Furthermore, some of the players you mentioned just aren't good enough. We did give Spearing many chances (think he mad close to 100 appearances for us? ) and although we all admired his passion, he didn't possess the requisite amount of quality, however harsh that sounds. Other players are even worse, you mentioned Carroll and he's got so many issues. I mean, to injure yourself getting off a barstool is pretty poor attitude and fitness, and even at West Ham, he only ever really plays 10 matches a season before he's crocked again.

I do agree that we aren't giving enough chances to youngsters, but at the same time, it was perhaps to both the players' and the club's benefit for both parties to move on so they can get playing time for their progression and development.


2.) 21 Feb 2017 20:08:23
Have to disagree too, for our club it doesn't matter how good a fit our former players are in another club, only if they would have improved the current crop under the current scheme. For most of them the answer is no. Fair play to them for finding their place, I usually follow and support most of our former players, and used to dream for Coady and Rossiter making it through, but the fact of the matter is none of them managed to break through, and most of them would not improve the current squad.
Suso took a lot of time as a weakish starter and a loan spell to mature, but this would make him a good alternative to Coutinho (if we presume that he would carry his form in the seria A to the premierleague) - however, would he be happy with that and would he achieve the same results? Doubtful.
Even Coady and Spearing would be behind Stewart in the squad player department.
So, let bygones be bygones. Maybe day some of the youths would reach a level where we pay a shitload of cash to have them back - and fair play to them. Hasn't happened thus far though.


3.) 21 Feb 2017 20:46:44
interesting debate MK and I would agree to some extent and then go further to say that some players simply don't wqork out at a club. And for the "big" clubs, or for a club like ours that has small margins to play with, we really are looking to strike lightening in a bottle with our signings.

I think that our greatest failings have been in not capitalizing on the moments where we have struck gold. Rafa's era, suarez sping to mind. and then obviously having stevie G for so long and not being able to consistently put a championship squad around him to make the most of his drive.

young players come and go, but are we really going to persist with a 20 yr old prospect until their mid 20s hoping they would hit their peak and not derail our performances at the same time!? I doubt that very much, and the evidence is clear that is something we don't do.


4.) 21 Feb 2017 20:52:32
zpecialone and Drigan - the point is that maybe we should have given them some more time to prove themselves in our squad. Do you really think that buying Brad Jones, who took the potential game time of Gulasci, was a good idea? Or that Suso's game time deserved to be spread around players like Assaidi, Downing, Victor Moses on loan and Joe Cole? Looking at that list of nonsense, what was the risk on giving him games?

The best example is missing from the list though. While we haven't had a strong CB pairing since Carragher retired and haven't had a good CDM since Lucas started getting injured, Mikel San Jose has been one of the best players in both positions in Spain (outside of Real and Barcelona obviously) for years!


5.) 21 Feb 2017 21:55:07
This wouldn't be a problem if we did what the big clubs do on the continent and add in buy back clauses. If we did this then young players that weren't getting opportunities could be sold to another club, get training and game time and we simply buy back. I know its not as straight forward as all that but big clubs in Europe use this method to good effect.

{Ed002's Note - It is incredibly rare in England for financial reasons.}


6.) 21 Feb 2017 22:02:54
Mk it was me who made the comment and it was about academy players, not players we paid 35 million for. I also said big clubs so Coady lighting up the championship doesn't mean much. Never thought of Gulacsi in fairness though.


7.) 21 Feb 2017 22:03:08
I think there is a very very small minority of players let go too soon by the club.
It's a risk, just like signing players, but movement of players is natural in football.


8.) 21 Feb 2017 22:35:42
Got to disagree. All the players you have mentioned are playing ok to a degree but at a lesser level than what is required to make it at Liverpool with the exception of maybe Suso, who still needed to get away for regular game time.

Liverpool need to compete at the very top of the premier league (unsuccessfully) so it is extremely difficult to give players 3,4,5 seasons to see if they will "make it". That is the reality and this also goes for players purchased for big money that should never have been at the club because they don't suit the way we play.

You have named 13 players that you think we have got rid of to early, but not one in my opinion plays at a higher level than LFC. If they did then there would be issues to sort out.


9.) 21 Feb 2017 23:08:37
Poolie,

On that front, Y don't we send a few of them on loans and see what they are capable of? I am not convinced with U23 games. It's by no means a scale to measure any player. How has warming on the bench helped any youngster ever? Nathan Ake is a brilliant example. Harry Wilson should be playing for a team with in the league under a loan. I am not sure what Klopp actually wants from some of the youngsters.


10.) 22 Feb 2017 00:34:26
It is a valid point hjikle, but I remain unconvinced that things would work out as that. However much we like to slate managers, they are still professionals who get to see most of these players much more often on the training ground. Usually there are reasons for players not getting picked up - like there being better alternatives, or in the least better suited for the system.
Not to mention that some of the originally listed players got their chance, like Benteke and Carrol - good players, who did not fit in the way we play football.
Now, with youth it is much more complex. Sadly, I do not see us as a good club for giving long-term chance to youth. We cannot be southampton - the fanbase will tear the club down. It takes significant time to nurture a talent, a time in which you are left behind by richer clubs. We went through a period of turmoil and gave chances to a nice young lad, Raheem of Stirling, that turned out well, eh? Ibe also got a lot of chances. Nice player, I like him, I wanted him to make it, but the coach decided that he is not good enough - not that he is not good, but not good enough. And in the short term, it is so - can you imagine what the fanbase would be doing if we had Ibe at 0 goals and 0 assists instead of a 35 million Mane? Let's be happy that some players are getting chances now, and hope that at least one or two would hold some role in the future.
Sorry for rambling, it is a little late.


11.) 22 Feb 2017 06:26:53
I'm most worried that you think Victor Moses is good enough, he's utter garbage.


12.) 22 Feb 2017 09:36:07
There are some points I agree with and others I don't MK. I do believe we give up on player too early such as Suso and have failed to give them proper game time, aspas and alberto, I can probably include Ibe Texeira and Ayala on that list too, given the rubbish we've brought in to replace them in some form, or not replace the in the squad at all.

I disagree however that Carrol would even fir into ourstyles ofverthe last few years, I;ve made it clear I think Studge needs to be cashed in on for a player thata ctally plays and can work as part of the system. Benteke is still woeful for palace and wastes a lot of their good balls ins, Spearing (I;ve ltierally not a clue why you've brought him up, he's found his level) If you're including Coady, you might as well include Shelvey, who is also a level above in that elague.


13.) 22 Feb 2017 09:57:26
Agree kingkenny. I never thought I'd write this but Harry, I totally agree with what your saying too. We need to find good loans for certain players and watch them playing in the premier league so we can judge them properly. like Chelsea did with Ake.


14.) 22 Feb 2017 11:23:36
is ake now a reguluar for Chelsea though? the argument could be made that he should have spent the entire season on loan at Bournemouth.


15.) 22 Feb 2017 11:26:10
I think everyone missed the point so never mind.


16.) 22 Feb 2017 13:10:03
Agree with you again Kingkenny. Brought back WAY. To early though, a full season there would have done wonders for him.


17.) 22 Feb 2017 13:36:43
San Jose is a good example hjikle. Glad you saw my main message. Perhaps I just wasn't clear enough.

I was not saying we should have Benteke and Carroll up front with Coady and Spearing in midfield! My point was, we seem to go through a vast amount of players meaning we are always in transition! We never give players a chance to develop. If I was a young pro with no ties to LFC I would not sign for the club because it has a history of taking a lot of it's players backwards in their careers or stifling their development.

This is not a new issue either. Rafa canned Riise after one bad season, Crouch for reasons beyond my understanding, Bellamy after 1 albeit troubled season, Keane after 6 months, Paletta before he kicked a ball, plus Benayoun was sent packing far too early.

I am not saying we should have kept these players, just opening up a debate on whether we give up on some players too soon. Daniel Ayala is another I missed who would probably be In our starting XI if he were still here. He certainly isn't worse than Lovren or Klavan!

It is easy to flippantly say "Aspas would never have been good enough" but how can we be sure? He had about 5 games as a consistent starter and then got ruthlessly replaced. People aren't considering the implications it has on a players development and confidence to basically be branded a failure without even getting a fair crack. We will never know how good some players could have been for us because we hounded them out.

I think that is what needs to change. If we gave every player the time Lucas, Henderson and Lallana have had, maybe we would be a better and more settled TEAM.


18.) 22 Feb 2017 13:58:34
you also have to take into account the amount of managerial changes we have been through in recent times, Rodgers not rating agger for example its also arguable some of those players should never have been signed in the 1st place. Great posts as usual MK.


19.) 22 Feb 2017 16:42:25
What? Crouch went because h wasn't good enough, and didn't come close to our style of play. Spearing was given time to develop, he was TERRIBLE most games. We've gone through those players because of the management changing so much, and BR's disasterous time in charge spending like a kid int he toy store. In that time though we've still shown (especially under klopp) youth will get opportunities. There are some positions though that they really need to move on EG Rossitter and Ibe (for their own careers sake) There's the odd occassion I disagree with KLOPP Ilori and tex) but that wouldn't put me off as a youth player.
I can't see the bad point of ditching Riise we hadAurelio wh was better and had just bought Dossena who much was thought of. Benayoun was a worker, never good enough for a team pushing for PLat the time for me. Ihonestly don't get your point. onhlysouthampton for me can really say they've produced better academy players and given them more tim tanus in recent years. Even Chelsea bin off themjority of their academy players, or buy them further down the line for more money.


 

 

19 Feb 2017 07:22:30
I'm a big follower of Roma over in Italy for the last 4 or 5 years. One of my absolute favourites in their side is Alessandro Florenzi. Always wanted him to join Liverpool as I believe he is (when fit and on form) the best right back in the game at this moment.

Absolutely gutting to hear therefore that he has just ruptured his ACL again! Just like Ings he had only just got back.

Obviously there are worse things go on in the world, but that doesn't make it any less crushing for these young men when their career dreams are left in tatters by matters completely down to pot luck!

Come back stronger Florenzi and Ings. Football needs more passionate players like these guys!

MK Scouser

1.) 19 Feb 2017 11:31:13
Florenzi is indeed a fantastic player, such a shame for him, he will bounce back as will young Ings.


2.) 19 Feb 2017 22:31:19
good post that MK, what a cruel blow it is for any player to suffer such a horrific injury, I only hope he and ings have the mental strength required to come back from such a setback.


 

 

11 Feb 2017 21:42:55
Listened to todays game on the radio. Sounded like Mane had a 10 minute spell of causing absolute chaos that won us the game.

However I lost count of how many times the commentators said
"Spurs break, oh Wijnaldum nicks it back"
Sounded like he was absolutely everywhere! Apparently a beautiful pass for Mane too. I can finally watch Match of the Day again!

MK Scouser

1.) 11 Feb 2017 22:02:37
Gini was a solid 9/ 10, he absoutly must have been injured for klopp to keep picking can over him. Hendo and lallana play better when Gini plays too.


2.) 11 Feb 2017 22:12:39
It was more like 80 mins, just teared them apart time after time.


3.) 11 Feb 2017 22:13:03
Wijnaldum was immense today. mane will get the plaudits and rightly so after his 2 goals but Wijnaldum was my motm. that was his best game in a lfc shirt today. hopefully many more to come.


4.) 11 Feb 2017 22:21:51
Wini was superb MK.


5.) 11 Feb 2017 23:42:08
Look at he's stats it says it all in the fiture he will be an integral part of the team.


6.) 12 Feb 2017 06:45:25
I hope big al didn't read this lol, somehow I still think he'd find a way to say wijnaldum is a ghost and somehow in an alternate universe Can is better than him.


7.) 12 Feb 2017 09:53:41
Kman, lol.


8.) 12 Feb 2017 13:15:24
There were several MOTM perfs last night. From Mane, Hendo, Wiji to Lucas, Firmino and Lallana. A complete performance. Every player should look at that perf individually and collectively as the standard going forward. A s for Wiji, he was colossal in both attacking and defensive midfield muscling beasts like Dembele and Wanyama off the ball. he even had time for a scorpion flick to Couts. Great perf from him!


 

 

09 Feb 2017 11:20:10
So if rumours are to be believed, Klopp wants Aubameyang and Hakim Ziyech, giving us a front 3 of Mane (Senegal), Aubameyang (Gabon) and Ziyech (Morocco) .

My word, can you imagine the melt down on here during the next AFCON if that is our first choice front 3? Please Lord, have mercy.

MK Scouser

{Ed002's Note - Don't worry about it.}


1.) 09 Feb 2017 11:38:34
Don't worry Ed, I'm happy with Mariano and Brandt anyway!


2.) 09 Feb 2017 13:06:03
Imagine the meltdown if Liverpool somehow managed to sign Aubameyang. Not going to happen, I'm afraid : (.


3.) 09 Feb 2017 15:26:10
I would be very happy with Brandt MK, not so sure about Mariano as I've seen nothing but his stats look good.


4.) 09 Feb 2017 16:34:48
Fornax, all I know is that he is a goal machine. Regardless of time on pitch, quality of opposition, quality of team mates; he puts the ball in the net. People baulked at Austin, Ings, Vardy and Deeney. They still rocked up to the Prem and scored goals though. It doesn't matter who the defenders or keeper are, if you can put the ball in the corner under pressure, you are a goal scorer. Mariano clearly is just that. I have only seen highlights and read up on second opinions, but the guy seems like an excellent player.

Aubameyang would be great, but it is just an unrealistic expectation. Klopp doesn't sign household names historically. He makes them, just like he did with Lewandowski, Aubameyang, Bender, Hummels and Gundogan. Say what you like about his tactics, but the guy is an unbelievable coach and man manager.

I think we need to focus less on transfer fees paid (and net spend), and focus more on getting the right players in the right positions.

If we go back and sign Robertson or Chilwell in the summer, people will still moan that we didn't go for the more expensive Coentrao or Rodriguez. Go back 3 years when everyone wanted Moreno instead of Bertrand because Bertrand was a reject and British. It is just the modern way. People want "marquee" players more than they want the right player. It is a sad reflection of modern football.


5.) 09 Feb 2017 18:31:49
Spot on, MK. Love your post. Fornax, I've seen Mariano play a few times and he is tho raw, a very talented player. You don't play in Real's first team if you are crap 9came on in the Clasico at Camp Nou) and since Klopp doesn't do panic buys, you better believe that he's scouted this player just like he did with Mane (since 2012) and with Matip from his Bundesliga days. Mariano Diaz is even way ahead of Zidane's own son at Madrrid B and frankly, he is lethal.

He has pace, power, strength and a lethal left foot. Don't believe me? Check out the goal he scored vs Chelsea in pre-season. A bullet from about 30 yards out. he is highly rated and has rejected several loan bids already this season. Will he solve all our problems? No. Will he help along with Brandt? Absolutely.


 

 

08 Feb 2017 19:22:18
Why can't we just be linked with players that don't have names like a Welsh village?

I am sick of learning how to spell names like Gylfi Sigurdsson, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Balasz Dzsudzsak, Pierre Emerick Aubameyang and Kyriakos Papadopoulos! Especially when I put in all that effort and we don't even sign them!

I want Ba, Tah and Sarr, no nonsense, Cheaper to get a name on my shirt, and minimal effort.

MK Scouser

1.) 08 Feb 2017 19:38:45
To right Adam. Absolutely no need for the club to look at any player with more than 10 syllables in their names.


2.) 08 Feb 2017 20:08:28
Clearly you've never been to Wales then MK.


3.) 08 Feb 2017 21:01:51
There is always going the nickname route too. Milly and Gini on the back of ones shirt will be something to be admired.


4.) 08 Feb 2017 21:58:55
Llanelli, Pwll, llanpumsaint, llanybydder. some Welsh names you might want to get on your shirt MK.


5.) 08 Feb 2017 22:57:25
Llanynghenedl and Llanfairynghornwy good too.


6.) 09 Feb 2017 03:40:08
So many letter 'L' in there! Is Lallana a welsh village?


7.) 09 Feb 2017 07:17:34
He'd be Llallana if he was.


8.) 09 Feb 2017 07:24:59
You'll have to buy a XXXL shirt to put them on it Wiwar!


9.) 09 Feb 2017 11:39:07
I resent that statement Adam.


10.) 09 Feb 2017 12:24:43
The Ll in Welsh is actually pronounced with a 'th' sound so good luck to Adam Lathana.


11.) 09 Feb 2017 15:42:43
I assume everyone is against looking to Ricky van Wolfswinkel or the legend that is Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink?


 

 

 

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13 Feb 2017 16:44:53
I did not say that Gerrard or Messi rely on pace. I only said that of Inaki Williams. My point was that after 27 years old most players whose physical capabilities are important in their game do tend to start declining at around that time. Gerrard's last season in his prime was probably 07/ 08. How old? 27/ 28. After that he was noticeably a lesser player and it is simply denial to state otherwise.

The exceptions do tend to be players who either have a bit more to their game, or players who have avoided major/ long term injuries. Gerrard had more to his game, but suffered masses of injuries early in his career and between 28-32.

Williams could tear a cruciate in the opening game of next season and never be the same again. So unless a player of his kind is so good they are worth the risky fee, why take the risk?

You have to judge it on a case by case basis to be fair. There is no golden rule. To me though, Inaki has played in a less than physical league and has a poor record in front of goal. Not worth gambling €50m on in my eyes.

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13 Feb 2017 13:36:46
At 22 years old, and as a player who relies pretty much 100% on pace, the guy may only have 5 years left before he begins to decline (see Owen, Torres, Sturridge, Gerrard, Walcott etc) unless he is an exception (Giggs, Ronaldo, Robben, Messi, Aubameyang etc) .

So it is pretty alarming that he has 4 goals in about 30 games!

The sad reality is that players who rely on pace usually peak between 20-27 when they are physically unstoppable.

I would not gamble the amount of money he would cost based on his previous goal records in a very top heavy league. If we did not have Mane, I think he would be a great option as a right winger. He just doesn't score enough to be the main striker though, in my opinion. He has less goals than Sturridge or Origi so why blow €50m on a step down?

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10 Feb 2017 10:21:02
We have too many academy strikers. So many we just sent Brooks Lennon on loan so we could bring Brewster through sooner. Brewster is already breaking into the U21's and McAuley is scoring for fun in the U18's. Both are 17/ 18 years old. Brereton is really not needed. Academy or first team.

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09 Feb 2017 10:36:37
Does this make me bilingual? Because I have wanted that on my CV for ages.

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23 Jan 2017 22:01:31
4 months left on his contract as per transfermarkt.

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{Ed002's Note - A loan.}


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2017 18:23:04
Cheers Ed, wow had no idea he was progressing that well! I saw he was playing well but if he can start knocking on the door for the first team then great.

Reason why i like him in a holding role is he can play it like Hendo does. He is good in the tackle and reads the game well, but he has a sublime passing range. Stewart is more of an all out destroyer when he plays the holding role, (he is probably slightly better running on the ball than Hendo or Williams though) as his lack of passing range makes us slower to switch play. That is the key difference for me; Stewart will put in a crunching tackle then carry it forward, whilst Williams and Hendo will slow the attackers down and show them into less dangerous areas, then use their passing range to spring a counter attack when we win it back as a team. Stewarts style looks awesome but it is risky as missing the tackle can either take you out the game, or get you booked.

Both good players in their own right, but Williams could offer genuine like for like cover/ conpetition for Henderson.

I really would love Stewart to get a chance at left back if Williams does take his place. Stewart primarily came through the system playing on the flanks; either full back or wide midfielder. He could potentially solve our left back issue if he has no future here as a centre mid! If not, i would rather have Stewart as our utility player than James Milner.

I honestly thought Williams was out of sight out of mind after his loans in recent years. Great to hear this Ed, thanks!

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{Ed001's Note - he was always very highly rated, it was injuries that held him back. Beale certainly liked him a lot when he was at the club.}


 

 

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22 Feb 2017 15:45:24
Ed is Williams seen as a midfield prospect or a centre back?

Always preferred him in a holding midfield role myself. His ability on the ball is wasted in defence.

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{Ed001's Note - I was told he is seen as a midfielder. Personally I agree with you, I would not be surprised if he threatened Stewart's place in the first team squad by the end of this season. So long as he stays fit.}


 

 

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22 Feb 2017 13:36:43
San Jose is a good example hjikle. Glad you saw my main message. Perhaps I just wasn't clear enough.

I was not saying we should have Benteke and Carroll up front with Coady and Spearing in midfield! My point was, we seem to go through a vast amount of players meaning we are always in transition! We never give players a chance to develop. If I was a young pro with no ties to LFC I would not sign for the club because it has a history of taking a lot of it's players backwards in their careers or stifling their development.

This is not a new issue either. Rafa canned Riise after one bad season, Crouch for reasons beyond my understanding, Bellamy after 1 albeit troubled season, Keane after 6 months, Paletta before he kicked a ball, plus Benayoun was sent packing far too early.

I am not saying we should have kept these players, just opening up a debate on whether we give up on some players too soon. Daniel Ayala is another I missed who would probably be In our starting XI if he were still here. He certainly isn't worse than Lovren or Klavan!

It is easy to flippantly say "Aspas would never have been good enough" but how can we be sure? He had about 5 games as a consistent starter and then got ruthlessly replaced. People aren't considering the implications it has on a players development and confidence to basically be branded a failure without even getting a fair crack. We will never know how good some players could have been for us because we hounded them out.

I think that is what needs to change. If we gave every player the time Lucas, Henderson and Lallana have had, maybe we would be a better and more settled TEAM.

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22 Feb 2017 11:26:10
I think everyone missed the point so never mind.

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20 Feb 2017 13:49:28
How is Skrtel not in this list Ed001! Clearly you are still bitter about his departure ;)

Quicker than Ronaldo, more skillful than Messi, reads the game better than Beckenbaur, passes with more accuracy Paul Scoles, and has less hair than Phil Mitchell.

Absolutely world class.

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