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25 Aug 2017 13:41:43
Can't reveal who told me this as I've promised not to say, but AOC has today told Arsenal he wants to sign for Liverpool this summer and will reject all contract offers they make. It's just down to Liverpool to make an acceptable offer to Arsenal and AOC now which it is expected will happen.

Information comes from a corporate box regular at the Emirates but that is as far as I'm willing to elaborate.

Ball is In our court now. Let's hope LFC don't balls up again.

MK Scouser

1.) 25 Aug 2017 13:54:18
I hope this is true because AOC will definitely be an upgrade over Milner.
With Klopp talking about moving Milner to midfield, I'd rather have AOC play there. Milner is horrible in the midfield.

2.) 25 Aug 2017 14:03:28
That's our problem. Ball ends up in our court and we don't offer the money.

3.) 25 Aug 2017 14:11:57
Having seen Chelsea table a 30m bid, I'm sure we will go in with about 25m and be surprised when it doesn't happen. I don't think AOC will improve our starting 11.

4.) 25 Aug 2017 14:17:35
At this moment, even Snoogy Doogy is fine with me.

5.) 25 Aug 2017 14:24:50
This is one I hope we do balls up. We don't need another jack of all trades and master of none.

6.) 25 Aug 2017 14:27:50
Thought he was odds on to join chelsea? Id be happy with the ox joining us.

{Ed025's Note - your easily pleased then ste..

7.) 25 Aug 2017 14:28:54
At this moment I thin AOC would be an upgrade on Lovren at CB ;-)

{Ed025's Note - so would avi cohen..

8.) 25 Aug 2017 14:34:19
To be honest I'd take Ox as his utility will improve and deepen this squad. However his utility does not stretch far enough to him covering Mignolet, Lovren and Moreno.

9.) 25 Aug 2017 14:35:50
If the reports are true that he is unhappy playing as a wing back that should rule out Chelsea's approach unless they are looking at him from a homegrown stand point ed002?

If his preference is a CM/ wide man that suits Liverpool imo. certainly gives us more depth which will be needed with European football to contend with.

{Ed002's Note - It is not really like that. Chelsea would expect him to adapt and he has the benefit to English sides of being homegrown (sounds like a line fron Country Joe's "Paradise with an Ocean View").}

10.) 25 Aug 2017 14:34:59
Ed025 - I just think he would excel playing under Klopp. or maybe its the desperation at the late stage of the window.

{Ed025's Note - the latter for me ste..

11.) 25 Aug 2017 14:54:04
the OX has turned down arsenals offer there going to make a desision in the next 24hrs weather to let him leave or keep him. if they keep they won't get a penny next summer.

12.) 25 Aug 2017 15:46:47
Whilst I don't dislike him, if he's turning down supposedly a large pay rise at arsenal it's obviously a move for football reasons solely. The issue here for me is that, in order to choose Liverpool for this reason would surely imply he's got assurances from klopp about playing time and position and I'm not sure I'd have him over those within the starting eleven.

13.) 25 Aug 2017 15:52:50
More than 30mil on an average player with 12months on his contract left seems like crazy money.

He won't be in our starting 11 so not saying Kent is better but is rather give him a chance then spend that amount on ox to sit on our bench.

14.) 25 Aug 2017 16:01:04
I don't mind him as cover/ to challenge for Mane and Salah, and it means we have an experienced winger in case of injury/ rotation requirements (without needing to move Firmino wide), but don't really see him as a great midfield option.

15.) 25 Aug 2017 16:13:20
The idea of him playing in centre midfield actually makes me feel a bit sick. Having seen him play there for Arsenal and England it's a recipe for disaster. He's a very ordinary footballer at best, free transfer to sit on the bench, fine, but 30 odd million starter in centre midfield? No way. There's a reason he isn't an automatic starter in the middle for Arsenal, it's because he's completely ineffective, he lacks the positional sense, the passing ability and doesn't have the all round game.

16.) 25 Aug 2017 16:20:56
Talk of him turning down 180k p/ w is astonishing, more the fact that anyone is willing to pay that.
I would take him at 20m and below in today's market, as he can cover a few positions but is he better than Milner? at this moment I would say no.
He is still young so has improvement in him but that isn't guaranteed and his injury record would worry me.

17.) 25 Aug 2017 17:07:35
To win titles you need more than 1 player per position. (of the same calibre)
If we take Mane, Salah off are we comfortable with who we have on the bench to inject that pace.
I think not.
Id welcome Ox with open arms and id be gutted if we did have an interest in signing him and then we miss out.
Everyone doubted Mane, look at him go.
I think he'd work brilliantly with Klopp.

18.) 25 Aug 2017 17:14:09
I'd have him, just hopefully not for stupid money. Our biggest problem this year will be strength in depth. Having Ox grujic etc playing cup games would hopefully see us through till the latter parts of cup competitions.

19.) 25 Aug 2017 17:31:54
Think he thinks he'll be a starter? Odd!

20.) 25 Aug 2017 17:35:06
The point is Kopette that Oxlade has these delusions that he is going to be a centre midfielder, quite against logic and reason. Personally I'd be happy with Ryan Kent backing up Mane and Salah than wasting £30 off million on him. I'd also contebf that you need top quality in central defence and centre midfield to win titles, that is something we severely lack. Oxlade answers neither of those issues. We've done too much signing of squad filler and bench fodder over the years.

21.) 25 Aug 2017 17:58:14
Thank so for the Info MK I hope was sign Ox would be a good addition imo.

22.) 25 Aug 2017 18:13:19
Get a grip boys, he's a really good player that will excel under Klopp. I believe he will be a great player for us. at least he sticking to his guns and wants a move to better his career. Fingers crossed he wants to come, and we can sort a good deal out.

23.) 25 Aug 2017 18:52:59
Tel1949 isn't that what Coutinho doing?

24.) 25 Aug 2017 20:06:27
Mr Dennis, yea but Barcelona are m*cking about. Offer 150mill up front :-P.

25.) 25 Aug 2017 21:26:31
Defence should be the priority.

26.) 25 Aug 2017 21:34:07
That we could end up selling Coutinho and replace him with a very ordinary and poor footballer like Oxlade Chamberlain is actually a depressing thought.

27.) 25 Aug 2017 23:19:53
So let me get this straight. when we were linked and he went to Arsenal we griped. Now he's loads improved and we don't want him.

28.) 25 Aug 2017 23:48:09
Never griped when he went to Arsenal wasn't that fussed, about as good as Walcott and wasn't fussed by him either. Oxlade hasn't improved loads by any stretch of the imagination. He's a very ordinary footballer. And possibly the worst option we could consider for centre midfield, he makes Christian Poulsen look effective.

29.) 26 Aug 2017 00:12:53
He was very highly rated on the boards at the time and yes he has improved. Better player currently than Stewart, Lucas, markovic, ojo and any of the young ones who could fill these positions including Grujic. Don't get me wrong, he's not perfect, but he's got plenty of agility and a fair turn of pace, solid ball control and is progressing into a great player. I think with less pressure on him we could see him having the same kind of year Wijnaldum had for us last year, which would be more than worth the money paid.

30.) 26 Aug 2017 00:54:27
His first touch is shocking and his range of passing is terrible. Add to that no defensive nous and no positional sense and you have a player who should be nowhere near centre midfield.

31.) 25 Aug 2017 21:48:29
Ed0025, I enjoy your banter and you can take as well as you give but your Avi Cohen comment was out of line mate.

{Ed025's Note - your right kirkby and i apologize mate, i was looking for a name from the past and his came to mind, i never realized he had passed and would never knowingly disrespect anyone, big faux pas on my part and i feel terrible about that mate..

32.) 27 Aug 2017 08:21:21
Amerigo, where exactly has Ox improved? My friend, you may believe what you like but the rest of us have eyes and can see quite clearly that Ox has not improved one iota. He was a winger, yes but why is he now playing at wingback? Could it be that it is cos he has failed at that position? He has scored 6 goals in 6 seasons. You call that improvement? Really? The guy wants play in CM as a starter. That must be some kind of sick joke. Why? Who will he start ahead of at LFC? Can, Hendo, Wiji, Lallana, Cou? Tell me who? He is definitely not better than Mane, Salah or even kent out wide. Come on, man you will never convince me or many that Ox is better than any of these guys.

33.) 30 Aug 2017 12:19:40
Ed0025, only just noticed your reply. I appreciate your apology and of course I accept it. Understand completely.

On a lighter note, I might need to change my humorous (but slightly facetious) comment of the Blues finishing 7th. I can see them above Arsenal and Spurs for sure and personally hoping they finish above the rubbish so 3rd and 4th wouldn't be too bad for Merseyside! Love the banter between Blues and Reds, know some great Blues lads and hope they have a good (but not above Liverpool good) season. Cheers mate.

{Ed025's Note - nice one kirkby, yeah it would be nice if we could give the mancs and chelsea a run for their money mate, liverpool are looking strong especially in attack but we need a forward badly if we are to be up there..but heres hoping..



04 Aug 2017 09:14:08
Liverpool are rumoured to have bid €17m for Benjamin Andre. Never seen him play but he is 27 years old, and made 329 interceptions last season; most in Ligue 1.

Not ITK, just sharing a rumour coming out of France this morning.

MK Scouser

1.) 04 Aug 2017 09:42:04
He made 74 interceptions according to football365 who make a mockery of that 329 figure.

2.) 04 Aug 2017 09:58:18
Like I said mate, just sharing a rumour. I have no idea if the stats are right, if the transfer figure is right, or even if that's his real age!

3.) 04 Aug 2017 10:05:17
Wasn't he the guy from Outkast? Andre 3000? If so, that's another pop star that's been linked with us after Lemar. Maybe we're starting a band?

Seriously though, I too have become one of those sad people who spends the entire summer searching for Liverpool transfer rumours and then going straight to youtube when I've never heard of them. From the looks of him, he's someone who can help break down teams and provide a link between midfield and attack, combined with an incredible interception rate.
Looks good to these eyes and youtube.

4.) 04 Aug 2017 10:19:25
From what I can find he's been called.

Frances best kept secret.
Poor man's verrati.

Seems tidy and apparently well scouted by lfc but again all just hear say.

Could klopp unearth a gem without breaking the bank, he's done it before.

5.) 04 Aug 2017 10:45:39
So we can;t sign Keita so we are going for 2nd or 3rd best are we? what's the point when we've got Henderson, Crujic, Milner, Can, Wijnaldum and Ejaria looking for places in midfield. Must be better to use what we currently have and then hopefully get our number 1 target next year. Grujic has to get his opportunities to keep his WP. As the Eds has said before we can't just keep adding and adding players.

6.) 04 Aug 2017 15:30:10
Its going to be a long season, and too many injuries, we might need a couple of good squad players, we didn't sign them last January window, I hope that we have learnt our lesson from that basic error .

7.) 04 Aug 2017 17:10:05
I agree red forever. On the one hand we keep hearing that we have a fairly thin squad and on the other hand we hear that if we buy we need to sell. Personally I'd like to see us sign. A top goal scorer to tap in ALL the chances we create. A cb who is strong in the air and has brilliant organisational skills and a holding midfielder who can play the ball well. You could say we have DS and matip and Hendo. Yes we do but they are all a little injury prone. Realistically we should add at least one senior player. right?



14 May 2017 11:48:50
So Luan, Robertson and Kjaer today then?

I like Robertson and have been suggesting him since January so happy there. I have only seen clips of Luan so I'll reserve judgement (as the clips were underwhelming to say the least) . However I really hope Kjaer rumours are fabricated. He is an okay player, but I don't believe he is an upgrade on Lovren or Matip.

MK Scouser

1.) 14 May 2017 11:53:51
We are not signing a CB this summer according to the Eds. Kjaer is a completely fabricated rumor by desperate papers. Luan also pretty sure won't happen. Robertson probably will be the LB we sign.

2.) 14 May 2017 16:50:25
Whata the point in getting hMions league if qe sign robertson. Not even good ebough for hull.

Nees a better lb than that.

{Ed002's Note - If Gomez were to leave then Liverpool will look to add a centre back. Robertson is a player that Liverpool are looking to buy. Simon Kjaer is likely heading to the South of France (if an issuette can be resolved). Luan is of interest but his ownership needs untangling.}

3.) 14 May 2017 17:42:01
Thanks Ed2. Without yours and Ed1's knowledge we'd all almost certainly be lost. ☺.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Nick.}

4.) 14 May 2017 18:33:27
Shame. No lb fix then.

How are yoy going to improve when you buy players like that.

Listen i know support and don't trash but he's just not good enough in any sense of the word.

The money city and united will spend his summer will see them add aboht 150 mil of quality each. Chelsea and arsenal. Totteham i don't know about with the new stadium.

But we have to buy better than that.

Ed001 has done notbing buy rave avout sessegnon and tierney. Celtic and fulham, they are very attainable.

Robertson has to be one of the last choicea rather leave it.

You all will have a go at me but this is why we have never won the premier league. Simple. Signing no better than what's in the team or academy.

Should only wver sign better than what you have.

Robertson better than gomez, milner or even moreno at lb? Nopes.

5.) 14 May 2017 18:44:51
If Luan is the same Luan as played for Brazil at the Olympics, he's a lively kid with some ability. But no idea what he's been up to in the past year and of course, Olympics football isn't a joke but it's not the Premier League.

6.) 14 May 2017 19:16:20
Not all players cost 100 million mind. sometimes you need to spot something in a player and have some balls to take the gamble.

7.) 14 May 2017 20:01:35
Buying part of a defence that shipped in 67 goals so far this season is certainly a gamble, especially when his stats are far worse than Milner and he's only been ok. I just don't see the positives in Robinson. Average defending, average attacking ability. If that's the best we can do then God help us. We need quality not another Klavan.

8.) 14 May 2017 20:07:09
Robertson was subbed today in hulls biggest game of the season at half time after getting roasted, if this is true it's utterly embarrassing.

9.) 14 May 2017 20:26:26
LI've we did with Deli Alli 😀.

10.) 14 May 2017 20:49:52
Like pennant, babel, bellamy, johnson, skrtel, voronin, aspas, alberto, ballotelli, poulsen, konchesky, dossena, adam, diouf, diao, jovanovic, cheyrou, pongolle, cole, traore, cissokho, sahin, ngog, borini, xavier, nunez, allen, kyriarkos, lambert, markovic, moreno, insua, kromkamp, josemi, barragan, el zhar, klavan, degen, assaidi, yesil, manquillo, bogdan, jones, merieles, benteke, downing, carroll, enrique (ANOTHER LB), coates,

A few next henrys and gerrards in there.

6 lbs

Atleast 8 of them signed after qualifying for the champions leage the year before and finishing 2nd

No premier leages for us after.

I guarentee i could search all those namea on here and archives permitted the post will be "going to be world class" "drop x player he's better" "sell him we have our replacement anyway".

There all run of the mill players ans that's how you stay a run of the mill team.

Yoy have to buy the best to be the best or atleast better than what you have.

Itz about raising expectation in the club. Alaba should be the target and why not, aim for an a and youll get a b. Aim for a c and well, no premier league tropheys tells you.

Hate not every player costs millions, well atleast 80% do and they get you titles and trophys.
You only say that to justify signing bad players.

Btw bellamy was a hit his second time around.

11.) 14 May 2017 22:24:02
Is there any chance we could buy be looking to buy two left backs this summer? Robertson might make an ok backup but I'd be disappointed to see him brought in as first choice.

This would mean Moreno leaving, of course.

Robertson against the likes of Messi, Dybala etc in the Champions League could be very embarrassing.



04 May 2017 14:17:44
Ed001 you have said we are looking at right backs and have been since last summer.

However the Sharkopod only referenced left backs, and Pereira who can play on both sides.

Is it basically Pereira or nobody? Or are there other targets you haven't mentioned. Perhaps even the chance of signing 2 left backs and moving Milner to right back?

Just curious as there is a good chance Arnold's long term future is in midfield or out wide. So if Clyne was replaced it would need to be a player for the immediate future and preferably long term.

Sorry if it has been answered but I can find nothing on the boards or the sharkopods.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - Pereira is a right back who can play left. He is the main target for right back, with TAA and Milner as cover. The priority is left back this summer, right back is seen as secondary. I really do not know of any other option right now for the right back berth. I will ask and see if it is a bit like Chilwell last season or if there are others being scouted.}

1.) 04 May 2017 14:32:19
Does this mean Clyne's being pushed out? RB is a position we can improve significantly by replacing Clyne with Periera.
The link up between Periera and Mane will be deadly.

{Ed001's Note - yes, we are looking to replace Clyne.}

2.) 04 May 2017 14:38:38
Ed001, with the situation you described at right back is it likely that we'll see Clyne move on?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

3.) 04 May 2017 15:10:49
Great news, feel for clyne as he at least puts the effort in unlike others but he's really not suited to the team.

4.) 04 May 2017 15:23:17
I think I am right in saying ed002 said he doubts pereira will move to us. So there must be more we are looking at.

5.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?

6.) 04 May 2017 15:15:25
Ed001,any clubs interested in Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of much interest right now mate.}

7.) 04 May 2017 15:17:53
Hey ed01, hope you are having a good day!

A question in a similar vein - we are being strongly linked to recruitements in CB and CM, which is kind of understandable with european footie coming next season. Now, it is by no means certain that new players will arrive in those positions, but IF that happens, which members of the current squad would in your opinion be most in danger of being dropped to the bench, or moved on? of course, best case scenario will just see increased competition and rotation, and starters being selected on merit, but I am very curious what the current hierarchy is, so to say.


{Ed001's Note - I do not expect a centre back to arrive this summer, if one did, it would probably be a bad sign for Gomez though.

As for CM, it is likely that Lucas would be leaving.}

8.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?

{Ed001's Note - not yet, but the clubs likely to be interested are those in the lower half of the Prem. If I had to put money on it though, it would be on a return to Palace.}

9.) 04 May 2017 16:02:50
Clyne likely to leav this summer then ed? didn't see that coming mate.

{Ed001's Note - possibly. Even probably.}

10.) 04 May 2017 16:22:39
Its is a pity Klopp couldn't convince his fellow countyman Lahm into not retiring at the end of the season and bring him in on a free for a season or two. He can cover left back, right back and the central midfield position that would be left by Lucas, plus a whole lot of experience. there isn't much he hasn't won.

I know he is 33 now, but so is Dani Alves and watching him play top flight CL football last night you wouldn't think so, set up both of Higuains goals too

Just a thought, Jurgen.

11.) 04 May 2017 16:52:31
Cheers ed

Has him leaving always been the plan then or has it developed recently?

{Ed001's Note - we tried to replace him last summer.}

12.) 04 May 2017 16:52:49
Leaving this summer Ed mate? Didn't know that Klopp is that discontent with Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - why? We had told you last summer the club were looking for a right back.}

13.) 04 May 2017 17:18:36
What is it in Clynes game that Klopp doesn't like?

{Ed001's Note - because he is not good enough.}

14.) 04 May 2017 17:42:32
Peirera likely ed?

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

15.) 04 May 2017 17:46:36
Right mate, cheers! Is Pereira better?

{Ed001's Note - my mother is better.}

16.) 04 May 2017 17:58:29
Ed 1 that's the best reply I've ever seen on here.

{Ed001's Note - many a true word spoken in jest.....}

17.) 04 May 2017 18:04:09
Haha that's harsh 😂.

{Ed001's Note - harsh but true. I can tell which players are particularly bad thanks to the missus, who hasn't a clue about football, but counts the number of times I swear at a particular player for doing something wrong. She has had to get an abacus to keep track of Clyne's mistakes......}

18.) 04 May 2017 18:07:50
are we interested in her then ed lol.

{Ed001's Note - funny you should say that, she is currently in the process of moving back to the UK just in case.}

19.) 04 May 2017 18:08:57
Nice response to Scouserseb lol people who rate Clyne really do grind my gears, he's bang average in nearly every department. Really disappointed that you say we aren't looking for a CB though Ed, the defensive problems will continue as long as Lovren is first choice.

{Ed001's Note - the plan is to give Gomez a chance to develop into first choice over the season. You can't change fullbacks and centre backs in one summer, so it has to be a bit by bit job. With a bit of luck, Gomez will mean we do not need to worry next summer either.}

20.) 04 May 2017 18:20:19
Thanks for all the replies Ed001. You are a star!

{Ed001's Note - aww thanks. I am blushing now!}

21.) 04 May 2017 18:20:23
Ed001 is spot on regarding Clyne, I did mention not long ago that Klopp wants TAA in the team next season so that could spell the end for him.

22.) 04 May 2017 19:02:25
Palace fans I know don't rate him either and may not want him back.

23.) 04 May 2017 19:21:27
Surely West Ham would be interested. Have barely played a real RB all season. Clearly bilic doesn't rate byram, tho I suppose bilic may be off anyway.

24.) 04 May 2017 19:27:18
Hey edd may I ask if your back together is the wedding back on. Very happy for you if it getting married maybe we can do a whip around and get you a present big love xx.

25.) 04 May 2017 21:44:45
We aren't getting married now Walter. I pulled the plug because he kept accusing me of being after half of his Dubai apartment. I mean sure it had a pretty decent view, but I'm not like that. I only got it valued in secret because I was curious.

{Ed001's Note - if I owned an apartment that would be a good idea MKS.

nrw - no mate, I was just kidding about the missus counting my swearing.}

26.) 04 May 2017 22:55:31
Ahh bless as long as all the edds and posters are happy and healthy.

27.) 05 May 2017 06:24:29
I'm not convinced by all this. If Klopp wasn't keen on Clyne then TAA would be playing. Most of these rumours are rubbish.

{Ed001's Note - you do realise that TAA is not ready this season and is being eased in gradually right? The rubbish is you thinking Couts would be on the bench when Barca's midfield has been on the wane for years and is why they are struggling this season.}

28.) 05 May 2017 10:50:45
If we do not find a RB this summer, will TAA be the starting RB next season? And if we are also unable to offload Clyne, will TAA still be ahead of him?

29.) 05 May 2017 11:27:47
Adding to the fire here, I was told by a friend in January, a business partner of Ryan Bertrand, that Clyne himself was looking to leave, and that Southampton would be looking at Sturridge this summer.

I then asked how much they're going to charge us for Sturridge. I'm thinking at least £40m based on recent deals.

I'll get my coat.

Top bit is true, though - Clyne wants to move back down south.

30.) 05 May 2017 17:54:35
Ed001, so matip with Gomez as maybe first choice, lovren covering. If Lucas leaves, do you think klavan will stay? I know he's just arrived this season, but I'd rather keep Lucas as cover for both and move on klavan?

{Ed001's Note - Klavan is staying anyway, he is back up only.}

31.) 07 May 2017 10:58:49
Honestly don't think Klopp fancies Joe Gomez anymore, last year found minutes for Ojo, Stewart, in the first part of this season both underwhelmed when given some minutes, haven't been heard of since, but Woodburn and TAA found some minutes with some lively performances or cameos given a chance, even with the injuries at the position, Klopp has chosen Lucas over him.



10 Mar 2017 19:39:21
Not sure on the Chamberlain rumours.

He is clearly a very talented player and seems to be one of the more passionate Arsenal players. He was the only guy who turned up against Bayern. He is very versatile able to play basically any role in our team ahead of Henderson. At only 23 it is very typical of English football that he has already been written off. He has sublime technical ability, great balance and can produce moments of magic on rare ocacssions.

However, there are clearly some things to worry about. His end product for one is truly terrible at times. He can go past 4 or 5 players and then put his cross on the roof of the net! Frustrating is an understatement. What truly gets alarm bells ringing though has to be his injury record. He is out for about half of every season, normally.

Torn on this rumour. To be fair he is allegedly a Liverpool fan and very good friends with Henderson so maybe it makes sense if Can and Milner leave. He could be a versatile impact sub in their place. You have to wonder if it is worth the risk though. Milner although being 8 years older is arguably just as good and can additionally cover both full back positions, but just as importantly is never injured. I'm sure this rumour will split opinion, but I am undecided for now.

MK Scouser

1.) 10 Mar 2017 21:00:31
Me too could end up being brilliant or an injury prone burden but would take him for 8 mill or some sort of swap deal with studge.

2.) 10 Mar 2017 21:18:52
He's not good enough and injury prone.

3.) 10 Mar 2017 22:07:29
There are better options out there.

4.) 10 Mar 2017 22:14:18
Oxs would be perfect for us he could play in the Lallana role of outwide but I don't know if he gets in the team.

5.) 10 Mar 2017 22:23:06
His attitude on the pitch is sublime, just what every fan wants to see, maybe not the big money game changing signing but I'm not sure that's klopps philosophy. He is the type of player that lifts people around him and that's priceless. If klopp worked with him I'd imagine ox is the type of player that would go to war for JK. Could be an inspired signing.

6.) 10 Mar 2017 22:15:59
MK the amount of times Klopp has left me with egg on my face and eating humble pie Im getting sick of the stuff lol. I wouldn't judge any decision of Klopps until a fair assessment can be made. If Klopp feels he can work with Gotze again, if Klopp thinks he can better manage the Ox I'll reserve my judgement until after a season or two. All this pie and i don't even like pastry :-P.

7.) 10 Mar 2017 22:16:59
How can you say he is "not good enough" though? He is 23 years old and has never had a chance to progress due to injuries. At 23 years old most people wanted Carragher sold. At 23 years old Sturridge had been rejected by Man City and Chelsea.

Chamberlain is a very talented player, with a lot of potential. The gamble is not whether he is good enough, it is whether he can finally stay fit and find consistency. Both of which are fairly related.

I have no doubt that on his game, 100% fit he is good enough for our team. How often will that happen though? That is the real question here.

8.) 10 Mar 2017 22:19:00
Maybe I'm watching a different player but Oxlade is a bang average player. Hasn't got electric pace enough to be a threat out wide, his delivery is poor and hasn't the guile to be a number 10 and he lacks the intelligence and physical attributes to play in centre midfield. He can go to City, Chelsea or United as far as I'm concerned.

9.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:31
We don't need another running midfielder MK. We have it in with Wiji and Lallana. We need a deep lying midfielder.

10.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:48
He's still a young lad.
Best is yet to come from him.

11.) 10 Mar 2017 23:10:11
His attitude stinks. Remember that little strop he threw on the field in the first leg against Bayern? Sorry but I only want players who are fully committed, with a good attitude and will not strop on the field.

12.) 11 Mar 2017 01:14:11
Not for me thanks.

13.) 11 Mar 2017 01:22:10
Da Red man that strop showed nothing but his commitment. He tried to close down 3 passes with no help from the rest of team who had given up.

Don't think we need him though.

14.) 11 Mar 2017 01:27:39
Daredman you know why he did that because no one was trying to get the bull back with him . Oxs would be a good signing there's a player in him it just needs to be unlock.

I remember people saying hendo and Lallana are bang average look at them now.

People did not what mane because of his attitude and have we seen anything bad from mane

And if you let him go to a rival and do well you look really silly.

Have we got a replace for Lallana because I have not seen one in are team . Gini naver like him

I'm not saying he should be a top target but if you can get him for 15-20mil you can't go wrong.

15.) 11 Mar 2017 01:28:19
Would rather some of our youngsters get a chance than injury prone new signings.

16.) 11 Mar 2017 09:28:48
Problem is can he stay fit?

How does he stay fot in a klopp team thag works harder than almost any other?

17.) 11 Mar 2017 10:08:59
He's injury prone, has shown little development since bursting onto the scene (albeit this has been hampered by injuries), he seems to lack game intelligence and rarely makes a big mark on the game. I'm not really sure what he would offer or if he would be of the required quality (even if he stayed injury free) and, on top of what would have to be seen as a huge gamble, he would not come cheap either.
If the club is to be smart about its recruitment, and get real bang for their buck, then they must invest the money far more wisely than in a player like Oxlaide Chamberlain. We need to improve our recruitment in terms of money spent and quality - Chamberlain represents a huge gamble and one I don't think we are in the position to take. I our money was limitless a la City then we would have more leeway - as it stands we simply cannot afford to be taking big risks and that is exactly what a move for Oxlaide Chamberlain would be.

18.) 11 Mar 2017 15:19:04
You lost me at "ahead of Henderson" Pure nonsense that!

You then further lost me by then saying he could be a "versatile impact sub"!

Contradicting much?

He'd pad out the squad giving us another option off the bench but he's no starter.

19.) 11 Mar 2017 15:59:43
I look at it this way: Is he going to improve our first team? No. Is he going to start ahead of our first choice 11? No. At Arsenal, he has been played wide and in a central role, so not a specialist but bit of a squad player (potential or not) .

Add his injury issues, and that fact that he is English (over-hyped and over-priced), and it looks like a transfer we probably should avoid.

20.) 11 Mar 2017 17:18:36
That's a good argument Seano. I cannot say I disagree.

21.) 11 Mar 2017 21:25:20
Mind bender I think you misread my post. I mean he can play in any position further forward than defensive midfield. Not instead of Henderson. Hence my suggestion that he could be versatile cover or an impact player.

AG I would say that when fit and on form he would be knocking on the door to start ahead of Lallana. That is why I am querying his fitness and consistency though because it is so unreliable. I'm only instigating a debate buddy. Like I say, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject. I don't think he would be the worst signing but as you rightly point out, him being English will inflate his price; even with only a year on his contract. So there is probably better value elsewhere.

Somebody else used the phrase already, but Chamberlain is the personification of a gamble.

22.) 12 Mar 2017 11:51:21
Think Chamberlain would be a very shrewd signing and would probe a lot of people wrong.

23.) 12 Mar 2017 16:46:19
Chamberlain just isn't worth wasting the money on. If it wasn't for the fact he was English he wouldn't even be a £10 million player. We would be better off signing Brandt as he's got more potential and even now is a far superior footballer. If it's simply a matter of choosing a winger because he's 'English', we may as well do our annual trip to Southampton and buy Redmond.

24.) 13 Mar 2017 17:42:52
He wants to play te box to box role, he actually had a very good run at it whenFlamini was't good enough after re signing for Arsenal, and coquelin was out. He didn't show enough for me then to suggest he'd make it. He's a wide player for Asernal when most ohters are fit, and atm, he's been overtaken by Iwobi. I said before if we're getting an arsenal player for a central role, I'd rather it be Ramsey wo for me is much more accomplished.




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15 Dec 2017 10:39:04
Discussion point.

Does anybody else think Solanke and Origi would work as a 2 man strike partnership? Both are very young, technically good, powerful, direct, but both also look better with a strike partner.

Could be a real battering ram option for next season.

MK Scouser

{Ed002's Note - You think Origi will be back then?}

1.) 15 Dec 2017 10:56:18
Yeah, they'd be great together.

For West Ham.

2.) 15 Dec 2017 11:24:15
Bit harsh Ron? Origi was excellent at times.

3.) 15 Dec 2017 11:21:16
I'm not sure Ed002, it was just a point for discussion to be honest. I think there will be a lot of teams willing to offer him first team football. He is a decent striker and people forget how young he is. It would be a shame for us to lose him. Especially as Sturridge, Ings and Brewster will all probably leave, as he might get more chances then. He's doing well in Germany though. He got nominated for rookie player of the month last week, so i expect Wolfsburg will want to make it a permanent deal.

Ron, i think that's a bit harsh. Solanke got nominated for the European Golden boy award and fired England u20's to a victory at a World Cup. Origi has already scored for us and Belgium in massive games. Has your account been hacked? You're a savage nowadays 😂 I'm not suggesting they're ready to be first choice, but if a team was sitting deep and stifling Salah, Firmino and Mane it would be great to throw Origi and Solanke on for half an hour to cause havoc. They're both powerful and direct.

{Ed002's Note - Wolfsburg will want to keep him and he wants to stay in Germany. I doubt he has any future under Klopp.}

4.) 15 Dec 2017 11:41:36
Origi and Solanke have great potential, I just can't see them working together personally but would be interesting to see it. How is Origi's loan spell doing?

5.) 15 Dec 2017 12:11:09
Personally I think Ings is more suited to our play than Origi and should be ahead of solanke as he’s proven although hopefully solanke fulfills his potential.

6.) 15 Dec 2017 12:41:02
I don't disagree with that to be fair Pegleg. Though i think Solanke is a better prospect, Ings is the better player currently based on what I've seen from him in the u23's.

I think Ings and Sturridge will leave though, maybe as soon as January. At their age, they should be playing regular football and that just won't happen for us.

I think it'll be up to Origi and Ed002 has now told us he wants to stay in Germany so i expect that will happen. To answer the question, Origi has been impressing steadily in Germany. They are a country who know how to nurture young talent as well so it would be a good career move for him.

If we lose Sturridge (West Ham? ), Ings (Newcastle? ) Origi (Wolfsburg? ) and Brewster (Dortmund? ) in the summer/ January then i think we might cause ourselves problems. Although they're not regulars, we'd need to replace them with at least one player for squad depth. Firmino, Solanke, Salah, Woodburn, Mane and Chamberlain looks a little bit light to me. We'd forever be one injury away from a crisis. Perhaps Wilson or Ojo could step up though to be fair.

7.) 15 Dec 2017 12:44:00
I’d rather see Solanke play with someone like Firmino or Salah - someone who can feed off his hold up play, has clever movement and also pull into the wide areas as required.

8.) 15 Dec 2017 13:02:16
I'd love to see him playing regularly alongside Firmino, Mane and Salah to be fair Grobs24. Coutinho isn't exactly trying right now so he has games where he just can't be bothered, like West Brom. Solanke will put in a shift in every game though. He's not as good, but at least we won't have players relying on a Coutinho who only shows up when he feels like it!

9.) 15 Dec 2017 13:10:45
Grobs24, with Ings he’s the closest player to firmino with his work ethic although he’s not at the same skill level. But but where Ings will make up for it he has an eye for goal which is the only thing lacking from firmino’s game. For me if I was rotating firmino with anyone it would be Ings as from what I’ve seen of him, and I watched him at Burnley he’d fit in if he can stay fit.

10.) 15 Dec 2017 14:00:38
It's all about expectations MKS. A front 2 of Origi and Solanke next season is not going to help us challenge Man City for the title.

We need to upgrade our first team, not stick some 20yr olds with potential in.

11.) 15 Dec 2017 13:52:05
The only player ever to score a hattrick without trying?

12.) 15 Dec 2017 14:13:01
I'm with MK I really like Origi, scored some impressive goals (remember the 2 against Dortmund) he has good qualities, pace, good finishing, shame to see him go, hope he does well.

13.) 15 Dec 2017 14:34:29
I see your point Ron. However, Messi, Owen, Fowler, Jesus, Rashford and Kane all got their chances at 18-21 years old and never looked back. As others have pointed out, Origi has already scored big European goals for us, a hat trick, a Derby goal, and even a world cup goal for Belgium. He's not as bad as you are suggesting. Solanke was nominated in the top 25 kids in Europe according to the Golden Boy award shortlist so he can't be a bad player either!

Plus I never suggested they be first choice. Just an alternative "option" to the complicated and intricate play which doesn't seem to work every time against banked up defences.

14.) 15 Dec 2017 14:54:01
Ok, well I'll repeat, if we're using them in the first team together we are not going to be challenging for the league.

Apart from Messi, how many of the players you mention have been contributing to title winning teams as youngsters? Jesus at a stretch.

15.) 15 Dec 2017 15:13:16
At this point I'd love the kids to be given a couple years to develop as a team In the hope that we'd improve season on season, not to mention our finances would start improving. That said, it would simply never happen for many many reasons but throwing money at our deficiencies hasn't brought us great success.

16.) 15 Dec 2017 15:13:45
Jesus at a stretch? How very Christmassy of you.

17.) 15 Dec 2017 16:29:58
Whilst you are correct that none of them played in title winning teams, I'm not sure you can pin the lack of success on them. Fowler scored 36 goals at 19 years of age. We didn't win the league with him because the other 10 players weren't good enough. It was nothing to do with Fowlers age.

I think you're being close minded about this. Age is irrelevant. If you're good enough, you're old enough. You keep banging on about Derby games. Well City won the Manchester Derby with Sterling, Jesus and Sane starting up front. They are 22, 19 and 21.

Dortmund took the league title off of Bayern Munich with a 22 year old Lewandowski supported by an 18 year old Gotze as well.

Age really is irrelevant mate. If we don't give Solanke a fair chance, we'll just ruin his career and have wasted our chance at developing a top talent who could potentially lead our line for a decade. Solanke and Gomez are the best u21 players I've seen at Liverpool in my life time. I will be infuriated if we waste their talent because we're impatient or scared to give them a chance.

18.) 15 Dec 2017 17:57:34
Very well said MK - sometimes you need to give special young talent the opportunity to settle, not just a game here and there. It’s painful in the short term as they’ll be inconsistent but you’ll reap the rewards later once they are integrated and the confidence is up.

I think Solanke and Woodburn are two of these, just like Gomez was a few months ago and now our best defender. Brewster may well be another in time.

19.) 15 Dec 2017 22:02:52
MKS : they are not good enough, that's the point.

They are good enough at a certain level but they are not at the level we need to progress - yet.

If you think they are then ask yourself if you think Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Man City, PSG would sign them?
Solanke has been let go by Chelsea ( KdB, Lukaku and Salah were sold, not let go) and Origi is missing open goals from 1 yard out.

20.) 15 Dec 2017 23:15:59
Ron, football esp. with youth does not work that way as it is not an exact science. If you think the kid is the real deal, then you have to play him and give him time to progress as inconsistency is part of the learning process. We are doing the exact thing with Gomez and TAA and they are improving w/ every passing day. Whether they would make it at RM, Barcelona or whatever is irrelevant, IMO.

We will never know if they are good enough until you actually play them. Saying they are not good enough cos they are young and inconsistent, is wrong and slating Origi (I watch Origi a lot in Germany and I have not seen him do that this season and he has scored 5 goals already) and Solanke (who many were happy with at first BUT are now getting on his back) does not help either. If you don't allow a young player time to settle and improve, you don't deserve the player you want him to become, plain and simple.

21.) 16 Dec 2017 03:01:53
Mk you need to look at this a different way mate! . Yes big Dom might be rated this and that but understand that is against other kids it's a whole different story when your playing with men pal.
Up to now solanke has done nothing when playing against men, imo mate ron is right you need to stop bringing his daft accolades up ad the really are pointless mate.
This has surprised me as you tend to write good stuff and your points of view are usually bang on but this well the less said the better unfortunately bud.

22.) 16 Dec 2017 09:55:56
It was against RB Leipzig BRover.

It's on the BBC website under the title
"Origi's embarrassing miss for Wolfsburg"

23.) 16 Dec 2017 10:08:10
We need to look at why we are so inconsistent and what other teams are doing better than we are.
Are City developing young players in their first team?
Are Chelsea developing young players in their first team?

If you want to continue, as we are, as Spurs and Arsenal are, then by all means do it.
If you want to win things, you have to look to improve. You have to sign players to improve the first team.
Continuously "developing" young players in the first team is something we've done for the last 25 years with no success in the league and with continuing lack of consistency. It's no coincidence.

24.) 16 Dec 2017 11:17:34
Ok Ron, I stand corrected as I did not watch that game (I know I missed something) . Strikers miss open goals all the time even the best ones, so not to bothered with that esp. with a young player still learning the CF position which is hardest to learn as a youth player. We are already better than City and Chelsea in developing young players into the first team. We are now progressing towards making them mainstays in the team and that is the next step.

Signing players to improve the first team is what every team/ manager tries to do so preaching to the choir on that one. As it stand, we are in the Spurs and Arsenal category as we will NEVER be spending 300m every season like City do or 200m every season like Utd do. Those are the facts and if anyone has issues with that then yeah, they are supporting the wrong club. We are doing a Spurs right now and they seem to be improving every season since Poch was there. Klopp and the owners are trying to do the same here and there will be bumps on the road. You keep the faith and believe in what you are trying to do. That is the reality.

25.) 16 Dec 2017 12:12:39
The reality is Spurs, like us, have gone over 2 and a half decades without winning the league.
What have Spurs won by developing players in the first team?
What have City and Chelsea won by not developing young players IN THE FIRST TEAM - a lot!

Chelsea and City have realised that if you develop players by playing them in the first team you will not win anything.
Last player we successfully developed in our first team was Sterling. What happened there? He went to City when we'd finished "developing him" and won loads.
A team that develops young players in the first team is a "stepping stone" club. That's why we've got Solanke.



13 Dec 2017 10:47:16
Benny, my mate has said he will be linesman for the game, but he'd like to know the final date by around February/ March time just in case.

He did also suggest he could source another linesman or even a referee if required. I've told him to hold fire though because I'm sure you mentioned you were hoping to get Dermot Gallagher involved.

And you never replied to my email so I'll reiterate; I'm not a left back! 😂 anywhere ahead of the defence please Ed001!

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - I was never intending you as a left back don't worry.}

1.) 13 Dec 2017 11:22:37
Thank god Ed. Not if we're serious about winning 😂 I'm a liability at the back. Though I'd play right wing back in a back 5 if you're feeling like Tris Conte!

{Ed001's Note - I am more Mike Bassett than Conte!}

2.) 13 Dec 2017 11:46:06
I expect to be played on the left side of a front 6 then 😂 Trust in me Ed. Some people call Nakamura, the Japanese MK Scouser. My free kicks are that good 😉 You've got this trophy in the bag boss. I'll put you 4-0 up in the first 20 minutes with a 25 harder, after a Carragold hat trick of sliced clearances lobbing their keeper, we'll all get get cramp, and then we'll capitulate to be drawing 4-4, before Fornax shoots from 120 yards, and the ball ricochets in off Benny's derriere for a 96th minute own goal. 5-4 to us. Put you're house on it. My training is going too well for us to lose. I de-iced the car in in my birthday suit this morning because i can't afford to fill a bath tub with Ice like Ronaldo can.

Book the open top bus mate. Football is coming home!

{Ed001's Note - there is certainly plenty of benny's backside to bounce off.}

3.) 13 Dec 2017 12:12:12
Careful Ed. Mind games might fire Benny up! Plus if Ed002 gets involved in them, no offence, but he'll win.

He's already giving me sleepless nights over Salah. I just lay in bed at night screaming "GET OUT OF MY HEAD" as a Rodeo Clown just flashes in front of me every time i close my eyes, shoving Salah into the back of a Taxi with the license plate R3AL MADR1D.

He may be the clown, but he's the one laughing!

{Ed001's Note - enough of the chat, you should be out kicking a tennis ball against a wall for training!!!}

4.) 13 Dec 2017 12:26:19
I've been using a marble and a lampost Ed. Tennis balls and walls are for Amateurs.

{Ed001's Note - good lad, and remember to watch your diet. I want you to make sure to get fresh food. Especially remember to use fresh ice in your drinks, none of that frozen rubbish.}

5.) 13 Dec 2017 12:53:45
I've set some tomato and carrot traps in my garden. Hopefully I'll catch a few tonight. Nothing is fresher than wild fruit and veg.

People who use frozen ice make me sick. It's murder in my opinion. I've not touched ice since I saw a grainy video of a factory in a third world country on the PETI website showing how it is killed in the factories. They take it away from it's freezer when it is just an hour old and then cube it in an industrial blender. Disgusting.

{Ed001's Note - it is something the world could do with more awareness of.}

6.) 13 Dec 2017 14:47:33
Sorry mate. Will get around to replying to the email. I do think it's cute you guys think you have a chance though.

7.) 13 Dec 2017 15:00:19
Just to clarify, am I slicing the clearances into my own teams net or the oppositions?!

8.) 13 Dec 2017 15:20:50
The oppositions carragold! You better not score a hat trick of own goals. If you do, you can pay for everyone's petrol to get home.

Cheers Benny.

9.) 13 Dec 2017 15:47:53
Haha just checking. A hatrick of sliced clearances, it will be remembered in folk law like Dirk Kuyts hatrick of tap ins against Utd.

10.) 13 Dec 2017 16:04:36
Kuyt hat trick combined distance: 5 yards.
Carragold hat trick combined distance: 216 yards.



07 Dec 2017 10:50:02
Just to answer anybody's questions about why Mignolet and Coutinho have been captains this season.

Klopp has a captain (Henderson) and a vice captain (Milner) . After that, he will give the armband to whoever is the longest serving player on the day. It's just a belief of his. There are no hidden messages. Coutinho still wants to leave, and Klopp still intends to phase Mignolet out.

MK Scouser

1.) 07 Dec 2017 11:31:32
Very insightful post MK.

2.) 07 Dec 2017 12:13:35
giving Couts the Captains role last night could be planting a seed, Couts might just be feeling what an honour it was, then he goes on to score a hat trick and man of the match,
could be a game changer .

{Ed002's Note - Don't be ridiculous.}

3.) 07 Dec 2017 13:08:54
If anything, Coutinho’s performances would bring more scouts to Anfield.

4.) 07 Dec 2017 13:11:07
copy someone comment in the other post. lol.

5.) 07 Dec 2017 17:50:33
Thanks for the information really appreciated.

6.) 07 Dec 2017 20:39:03
That was pretty clear, MK.



07 Dec 2017 09:57:38
Which volley was better;

Salah vs Stoke?

Mane vs Spartak?

Very similar goals but i think Mane's edges it for me as the delivery was much harder to control forcing him to readjust his body to get over the ball.

Both stunning goals though. Who doesn't love and absolute cannon on the full volley!

MK Scouser

1.) 07 Dec 2017 10:13:51
I think Klopp's new pearly whites stole the show.

2.) 07 Dec 2017 10:32:25
Mane's volley looked better for the reasons you stated MK.

3.) 07 Dec 2017 12:06:41
I’d go Mane, he changed his technique at the last second to side foot it in, brilliant.

4.) 07 Dec 2017 12:23:20
I am going for the Salah V Stoke volley, as it came in a tougher moment in the game .



07 Dec 2017 07:57:57
Leave it to Roy Keane to turn the entire media's approach on us winning 7-0 against the current Russian Champions into something negative 😑

Spartak are just a poor side apparently. Oh but when City put 5 past Watford, they're the best team in Europe 🙄

I said last night people still weren't taking us seriously and this just proves my point really. Never mind though, it'll just be a nasty shock when we go to the Emirates in a couple of weeks and turn Arsenals unbeaten home run into a fine paste 😂.

MK Scouser

1.) 07 Dec 2017 08:05:09
MK, don't worry. I stopped listening to pundits who have a hard-on for certain teams they comment on cos their deep hatred for such teams will ALWAYS show.

2.) 07 Dec 2017 08:49:41
MK, I believe every pundit including Keane sees our attack as breathtaking but to be really considered a great side we need more than just that awesome attack.
I think it’s more to do with the calamitous keeper we have in Mignolet and a defense very close to lower table standard in the league. I think you said yesterday that Swansea or someone very close to bottom have conceded less than us. It’s up to Klopp again to finally fix that defense, if he does then I believe we will be a great team and will challenge for the title and CL.

3.) 07 Dec 2017 09:06:02
Not that bothered about Keane comments. Hopefully, it will allow us to just quietly go about our business for a few more weeks.

4.) 07 Dec 2017 08:56:34
MK Arsenal don't have a home u beaten run!

5.) 07 Dec 2017 09:54:26
You are correct mate. I forgot that Manchester United fluked a victory there thanks to De Gea, but i want us to turn their apparent strong form at home into dust Laddie Bunton!

6.) 07 Dec 2017 10:02:59
Keane was an absolute magnificent player and one of the best captains ever- he grew up to be a dreadful manager and woeful pundit. Pay little heed to him.

7.) 07 Dec 2017 10:15:08
Put him in the same category as Garth Crooks another one who has a high opinion of himself.

8.) 07 Dec 2017 10:25:46
Let people moan, we can go under the radar for me, people have this idea we can't win anything as we're not good enough at the back,
Im saying no matter how good you are at the back we'll get at you with goals, and we're not half as bad at the back as people make out anyway and we seem to be learning from our mistakes all the time, everyone sees 7-0 and assumes the other team are rubbish and don't stop to consider how good we are,
There is zero need for any moaning lately if you ask me and if we do bring in a cb and at some point a top keeper then it can only strengthen what we already have.
In my eyes we seem to be getting a touch more tactically astute against different teams too, a good squad gives you that.




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Salah, you're just worried because he is a left footer who plays on the right wing.

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07 Dec 2017 18:07:45
Come on brudder, you're going to get yourself banned.

I can accept some people don't rate Henderson, but you aren't really justifying your opinion or even offering an explanation. You've just copied and pasted the same boring, lazy rhetoric about him apparently only passing sideways or backwards, and not being fit to be Liverpool captain etc.

It is making you look like a troll. Ed025 and Harry don't like Henderson either, but they are at least trying to justify it. If you gave a balanced and constructive assessment of why you didn't rate Hendo, you might actually change some peoples minds?

Keep posting mate, at least you're consistent and therefore not fickle! You just need to tone down on the baseless character assassination, and focus on explaining yourself.

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07 Dec 2017 10:16:49
Fair play to the lad for showing a humbleness that too many young players don't have. He looked very likely to sign for us at one stage, but who can blame him for going for first team football over money? Respect.

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02 Dec 2017 18:43:02
Agree with Dennis.

Roberto is their best player after Messi and Suarez.

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15 Nov 2017 14:08:12
This is just the media trying to destabilise a player with some controversy as per usual, to sell a story.

What better to generate euphoria and turn the fans against Can, than to suggest he is holding the club to ransom?


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16 Dec 2017 08:52:12
Klopp played the team everyone wanted against West Brom and it was even worse watching Can, Gini and Coutinho stroll around in midfield like they couldn't be bothered. At least Milner, Henderson and Chamberlain worked hard to make things happen against Everton. Football is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration.

Anyway, that was a week ago now. There are worse things happen in life than drawing a derby game.

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15 Dec 2017 16:29:58
Whilst you are correct that none of them played in title winning teams, I'm not sure you can pin the lack of success on them. Fowler scored 36 goals at 19 years of age. We didn't win the league with him because the other 10 players weren't good enough. It was nothing to do with Fowlers age.

I think you're being close minded about this. Age is irrelevant. If you're good enough, you're old enough. You keep banging on about Derby games. Well City won the Manchester Derby with Sterling, Jesus and Sane starting up front. They are 22, 19 and 21.

Dortmund took the league title off of Bayern Munich with a 22 year old Lewandowski supported by an 18 year old Gotze as well.

Age really is irrelevant mate. If we don't give Solanke a fair chance, we'll just ruin his career and have wasted our chance at developing a top talent who could potentially lead our line for a decade. Solanke and Gomez are the best u21 players I've seen at Liverpool in my life time. I will be infuriated if we waste their talent because we're impatient or scared to give them a chance.

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15 Dec 2017 16:20:23
True armendn, but this is not a normal season to be fair. The Arsenal invincibles had 39 points after 17 games. The Chelsea team which holds record points haul over a season had 40.

In those two seasons we'd be 8 points and 9 points off top spot which is bad, but half of the total gap of this year. Prior to this season, those were the two best teams in an individual premier league season. City are just blowing records apart this year. So whilst we may be 18 points behind them, we are only 7 points off second place Man Utd who in any normal year would probably be the pace setters.

You can't really judge anyone against City this season. They've only drawn one game. We'd have to have won 17/ 17 to be ahead of them! You just have to admire it because they are on course to become the best side in English football history. Would you put it past them winning the treble? I wouldn't.

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15 Dec 2017 16:13:15
Completely agree Peterpan and Ed001. The one position that you can't carry a weak link!

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15 Dec 2017 14:34:29
I see your point Ron. However, Messi, Owen, Fowler, Jesus, Rashford and Kane all got their chances at 18-21 years old and never looked back. As others have pointed out, Origi has already scored big European goals for us, a hat trick, a Derby goal, and even a world cup goal for Belgium. He's not as bad as you are suggesting. Solanke was nominated in the top 25 kids in Europe according to the Golden Boy award shortlist so he can't be a bad player either!

Plus I never suggested they be first choice. Just an alternative "option" to the complicated and intricate play which doesn't seem to work every time against banked up defences.

MK Scouser