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10 Jul 2018 08:47:42
Not my rumours, just things I've read this morning.

Taiwo Awoniyi signs a new 5 year deal and and then joins Monaco on loan for 2 years?

Liverpool have contacted Juventus regarding Marko Pjaca and been quoted a price.

MK Scouser

1.) 10 Jul 2018 09:00:26
Strange one about Taiwo, not sure how his development will go there. Will he even make the bench? All the best to him and hope it works out and we get a cracking player back. Cheers mk.

2.) 10 Jul 2018 09:29:38
Interesting one for Taiwo, thanks Adam, I think I read the same article earlier!

Makes absolute sense to me. Looks like Brewster is the one who's going to make the step up from the U-23s to the first team squad this season, and Solanke is pretty raw into the first team too.

Nice to give Taiwo a bit of stability and an opportunity to establish himself at a team that is at least Europa league level.

This may have formed part of the Fabinho negotiations as well.

3.) 10 Jul 2018 12:00:34
Eds or anyone that has seen Taiwo Awoniyi play.

Is this guy any good? Will this guy have a future with Liverpool or should we expect that he will be off soon.

I'm usually pretty good at keeping up with youth players but I have no idea what this guy is like as a player.

4.) 10 Jul 2018 12:56:41
Whilst i would be ecstatic about this happening i think the step up to be playing regularly for Monaco is too great a jump.

From what i read it was more the case he was going to remain in belgium but for one of the top teams e. g. Anderlecht. meaning he would be involved in europe.

5.) 10 Jul 2018 13:45:50
Taiwo Awoniyi must be very well thought of.

Im with george t on this one

Anyone seen him play enough to give an assessment on his potential?

6.) 10 Jul 2018 13:49:02
Monaco seems like a strange place for him to go, alright. The quickest way for him to get a work permit is to get into the Nigeria squad, and he'll have to be playing regularly to do that.

As for his playing style, think of Heskey but with more pace and better striking of the ball. The kid has a looooooooooooot of developing to do, though. He was only starting to finally find some consistency of performance last season, and will need to be starting games regularly to continue that.

So yeah TSR, it would make a LOT more sense for him to go to Brugge, Anderlecht, Liège, Gent or Genk. But of course, if he does end up at Monaco, I'll hope he becomes a roaring success and takes Falcao's place etc etc.

7.) 10 Jul 2018 15:49:44
Literally never seen him play aside from YouTube. I always forget about him every season!



02 Jun 2018 13:40:11
Looks like Jack Butland is happening lads. Bookies have seen a huge spike in bets this morning. Someone knows something I reckon, and Macca has backed this move to happen since day one.

MK Scouser

1.) 02 Jun 2018 14:13:50
Such a shame, not good enough, never will be.

2.) 02 Jun 2018 14:14:32
Poor choice imo. He he a flapper.

3.) 02 Jun 2018 14:27:32
Christ lads. With fans like you around, who needs enemies .

4.) 02 Jun 2018 14:29:34
Remember the last Keeper we signed after he got relegated?
Me neither.

5.) 02 Jun 2018 14:53:29
Piss poor if you ask me. A position that require a top class performer and we go for a bottom half keeper again.

6.) 02 Jun 2018 14:57:06
Not good enough just like Robertson. Trust in Klopp - he doesn’t get transfers wrong.

7.) 02 Jun 2018 15:03:27
In Klopp we trust. Din everybody groan and sigh when we sign Mane? Butland in hands of Klopp will be a De Gea.

8.) 02 Jun 2018 15:11:38
False equivalency comparing a dodgy keeper with an under rated left back. The flaws in Butlands game are easily exposed and will be time and again. We may as well stick with Karius as he is not a better keeper by any stretch. He has looked shaky AF all season.

9.) 02 Jun 2018 15:13:40
Hope not he’s last choice I’d want. got to be oblak Allison imo.

10.) 02 Jun 2018 15:15:23
L. C Karius in the hands of Klopp needs I say more

It is pointless us sending big money on all different position in the team with a 2nd rate keeper standing behind them. I think we need a top keeper to mount a serious challenge which we haven't had in a long long time.

11.) 02 Jun 2018 15:19:30
Remember a few seasons ago I think the bookies even suspended betting on Ribery joining us. Means nothing.

12.) 02 Jun 2018 15:24:39
I don't put much faith in what bookies say, they are simply out to make money for their companies, however if it's Butland, it's Butland that comes and so be it. If it's true then be prepared for endless days of whinging and whining about it.

13.) 02 Jun 2018 15:34:17
If it's Butland let's give the lad a chance.
And I very much doubt he'll be coming as second choice goalkeeper.

14.) 02 Jun 2018 15:39:07
We don't need a keeper. Kieta mane salah Bobby and the ox running at teams. Just win 8-5 every week.

15.) 02 Jun 2018 15:39:31
If it’s Butland that comes then it’s just more of the same. He’s nowhere near a top class keeper as he’s shown.

16.) 02 Jun 2018 15:48:05
Is that ‘give the lad a chance until he drops an absolute howler in an important match’? You cannot tell me he’s a significant improvement on either of Mignolet or Karius.

17.) 02 Jun 2018 16:15:29
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. its also not moaning and every one of us would get behind him if we sign him. doesn't escape the fact as a goalkeeper he is no better than what we have. And saying Klopp will make him better? How? don't believe Klopp coaches GKs!?

18.) 02 Jun 2018 16:38:31
Not good enough. We haven't had a decent keeper since Reina and it has cost us. Seeing as we're able to offer champions league next season and having reached the final this year, it makes us a more attractive proposition. As such, we should be going all out for someone that is top class. Butland isn't IMO.

19.) 02 Jun 2018 16:42:16
This will be our best signing of the summer by far. I am well excited. Let's hope it happens quick.

20.) 02 Jun 2018 16:47:19
Butland is just an Englishmans karius. Could be worse thought. Could be going for Hart. It's shame we are scrimping on the most important position. But I've seen teams with crap keepers win trophies.

21.) 02 Jun 2018 16:52:59
Here we go again, pushing players out before they’ve even signed. Where have we seen this before? Ox, Salah, mane, VVD, Robertson. All have been tarnished with the ‘ ‘not good enough, never will be’ brush.

Wouldn’t be my pick but I’m not a scout or a top class manager. Butland hasn’t been the same keeper since he came back from injury though he was one of the best in the league a couple of years ago, he’s not short on ability, just needs to get back to his best form.

22.) 02 Jun 2018 16:55:57
Who needs a decent keeper when we will be scoring 5 plus goals every game.

23.) 02 Jun 2018 17:05:39
Farmerfc1515, if that’s the case. Save £40m and play rush goalies instead.

24.) 02 Jun 2018 17:54:16
Rush Goalie!
Haha hahaha
Take me back down memory lane 😂😂😂😂😁😁.

25.) 02 Jun 2018 18:09:34
Haha. Why not! Who needs goalposts as well, just use some bloody jumpers.

26.) 02 Jun 2018 18:09:37
Rush goalies one of the greatest things ever. Fact!

27.) 02 Jun 2018 18:45:32
Ice hockey teams have the option of taking the keeper off to bring on another player. Be fun thing in footy.

28.) 02 Jun 2018 18:47:50
“Robertson is sh*t and will never be good enough”

“Oxlade Chamberlain is sh*t and will never be good enough”

Round and round we go. Trust in the manager? 🤷🏻‍♂️🔴.

29.) 02 Jun 2018 19:02:53
Don't judge butland on last season. Came back from a serious injury.

Imo he has potential. would prefer a of the shelf but not devastated if it's him.

30.) 02 Jun 2018 20:29:27
Absolute madness to spend 80m on a keeper. Everybody goes on about Allison yet we stuck 7 past him. Oblak isn't leaving Madrid. If we do get Butland so be it. Klopp doesn't buy to many duds.

{Ed0333's Note - I totally agree mate. Listen I’m no goalkeeping expert but Becker didn’t look anything like the beast the world keeps telling me about against us. I know he’s highly thought of on here by Ed’s and reds and he maybe be outrageously good but to spunk a world record fee on him would be in my opinion risky. Far better to have 2 decent keepers vying for number 1 and spending the money on Fekir, Dembele etc.

31.) 02 Jun 2018 20:50:42
Typical keyboard warriors on here. Butland, who has yet to make a mistake for Liverpool yet, getting slated in favour of a keeper who has made more mistakes than he’s made saves.

Butland is light years better than Karius and I can’t understand everyone saying he will be no improvement. If we picked up a keeper from the Conference he would be an improvement on Karius.

{Ed0333's Note - good evening Mr Butland didn’t know you frequented the site.

32.) 02 Jun 2018 23:15:13
Redmersey, Butland is a bang average keeper (at best) who is lower table fodder. Fact is that a top class keeper like DeGea wins Man United 15 points a season and that’s what we should be aiming for. Butland has cost Stoke more than that this season with a combination of throwing the ball into his own net, dropping crosses, letting in easy shots (particularly at the near post) and lacking concentration at vital moments as well as the fact that he’s as nimble as a Tiger 2 Tank. So when you say that he hasn’t made mistakes, you could not be any further from the facts. He’s made loads of them. Typical of pretty much every English keeper around. He’s turning into Joe Hart at an alarming rate. So he’s not a significant upgrade on Karius and every mistake that Karius has been pilloried for, Butland has done. Except we’ll pay £40m for the privilege of seeing an Englishman doing it instead.

33.) 02 Jun 2018 23:05:00
I’m not a fan of butland myself as I would be worried about any of the relegated keepers. But we have to ask, behind that defence that went down, would any keeper have looked good?

34.) 03 Jun 2018 08:59:52
Frankly you have been up and down this site slating butland for a couple of weeks now, has he done something in particular to you. 😂

He is a good keeper that just needs to recover his form and confidence. He can be a much better keeper than karius, just needs to prove it. In fact karius maybe needs the close competition to improve himself. Im not opposed to this at all.

35.) 03 Jun 2018 09:56:46
My mate's a avid Stoke fan and recons Butland was a big contributer to their relegation.

For my twopenny worth either upgrade or stick, Butland at best is a slight upgrade and certainly not worth throwing a fair percentage of the budget at.

Becker on the other hand plays the style Klopp wants is young and highly rated by more informed people than us, I can't remember the goals he shipped against us but none were like last weeks.

36.) 03 Jun 2018 10:56:18
Don’t look at next club betting markets, they are so volotile and normally limited to low amounts, it wouldn’t take much to send odds tumbling.



23 May 2018 12:40:45
Ed001, obviously Can will leave and we'll need to find someone new to compete with Hendo for the holding role. My question Is, that if we can't get the first choice player, Ceballos, is there a chance Klopp may give Pedro Chirivella the chance? He was arguably our most successful loanee last season.

Or is it a case of Chirivella not having a future, and would we just move on to someone else we've scouted like Doucoure, Ndidi or Obing?

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - Chirivella is planned to have a shot at cementing a place during the pre-season friendlies.}

1.) 23 May 2018 12:58:40
Would love it if he took that chance, he's done so well for two years on loan now.

2.) 23 May 2018 13:48:37
Cheers for the insight Ed. Like hjikle, I hope he does well too. He came with a big reputation!

3.) 23 May 2018 14:17:51
I see the consensus on Ceballos is that he would play the deeper lying role. I confess to not seeing anything of him live, I only watch Liverpool.
From what I have seen of him on the one and only YT, I can’t imagine it. I don’t think he has played there before and looks more of a link up player, running with the ball, short passes into forwards etc.
Like I said, I don’t know, only ever get time to watch Liverpool and YouTube as we all know is no real scouting tool but is that what we think is to happen with him if signed?

4.) 23 May 2018 14:35:43
I think he would be a good squad player for next season, keeps the play ticking over and reads the game well.

Obviously if we are bringing in more players then get him out for more experience but I would be upset if we din see him don a Liverpool shirt at some point!

5.) 23 May 2018 14:40:31
If he proves to be good enough, do you think that would cause the club to change their mind on ceballos?

{Ed001's Note - no idea.}

6.) 23 May 2018 16:14:59
I have no idea what position the player prefers barnsey, but he has made 131 senior appearances, and 65 of those he started the game as a deeper midfielder. He has started 38 other games either on the left midfield, attacking midfield or the right midfield. Sub appearance positioms aren't recorded.

He is much better in the deeper midfield roles, because he is not a quick dribbler and doesn't score many goals. He wouldn't fit the attacking roles in our system at all. He is still only very young and has been used as something of a utility player for most of his career so far, but his best position from what I have seen is definitely in a traditional midfield role. I actually think he'd be better in a midfield two myself, alongside Keita or Henderson.

If he was the sole holding player in a midfield 3, he might get overwhelmed at this age, with his lack of experience. The Spanish football fans liken him to Luka Modric. He is basically a midfield playmaker who can also chip in defensively (he loves a tackle), but he can also cover the more attacking roles to an okay level. He's not a pure defensive midfielder for sure, but neither is Henderson. Klopp Doesn't play an orthodox DM.

7.) 23 May 2018 18:38:59
With the window shortened and WC taking place I don't think the club will take a risk. They will go for Ceballos if not another player of his mould. Seriously it's going to affect the youngsters as Ed001 pointed earlier.

8.) 23 May 2018 22:11:29
Spot on, Barnes. Never seen Ceballos play BU I watched some youtube highlights and a DLM, he is not, I'm afraid. Maybe others can help me here.

9.) 23 May 2018 23:47:08
Brover, you have to remember that a YouTube highlight reel will focus primarily on goals and assists. Most of these came whilst he was playing in attacking positions (naturally) . So his YouTube highlights only tend to show him in games he played further forward. It would be a boring highlight reel if it was him intercepting a passes, making tackles and playing a forward pass to the attacking midfielders.

You'd have to research him more extensively than YouTube. Watch him in full games. Read detailed scout reports and player profiles etc. YouTube only picks out exciting bits and doesn't comprehensively cover everything about any player.

10.) 24 May 2018 03:57:25
So true MK - he's one of our most important players but have you looked at a Henderson highlight reel recently 😂.

11.) 24 May 2018 07:48:10
It's a shame that with the shortened window, it's less likely chiravella will get a shot to prove himself.

12.) 24 May 2018 20:06:17
@ SGRed - I actually looked at a Henderson highlight reel a few weeks back to compare it to a Jorginho highlight reel, and I have to say Henderson looked better.

And I think they were done by the same person.

It did contain virtually all of his attacking play this season, tbf, but how do I know the Jorginho one didn't contain all of his attacking play?

13.) 25 May 2018 03:00:04
I nearly feel asleep at the one I saw of him. Tackle, pass, tackle, pass and a few excellent diagonal balls thrown in.

Not knocking the guy, I think he’s outstanding but frankly speaking the deeper role just doesn’t make for an exciting YouTube video IMO. If it does, they’re probably doing it wrong and taking too much risk!



11 May 2018 10:48:52
Kloppsreds17, you asked where Ed002 said about Fekir and Fernandes, so i've put together a quick overview of all the latest info we have been given by the Eds. I save the important replies on confirmed Transfer targets so I can try and watch them!


{Ed002's Note - As a special treat. Liverpool have no agreement in place for Lemar, Maddison, Fekir nor any other of the done deals at this time. They will look to adding a versatile attacking midfield player as an effective replacement for Coutinho. AS has been explained a number of options have been looked at and there are scouts still looking at players across Europe and they will have looked at the likes of Fernandes, Fekir, Draxler etc. Specifically, the Lyon Sporting Director has spoken recently (since Fekir reurned from injury) with two sides, one English and one Spanish but Lyon would like the player to stay and are very difficult to deal with. Arsenal has had a long-term interest in Fekir but whether the new senior management will continue the interest AW had in the player is unclear at the moment. So right now Fekir has certainly been watched by Liverpool but they have not discussed anything with the Lyon owner or Sporting Director - but perhaps they will. }


{Ed001's Note - we did look at Jorginho, Seri, Weigl, Torreira and Lo Celso off the top of my head. }

{Ed001's Note - I will try and do something if I get some time mate, can't promise anything though Ceballos is still number one target. }


{Ed001's Note - yes right back, we have looked at hundreds mate, bit soon to get certain names of the likely targets. We have looked at Hysaj, but I would expect him to be out of reach now with Napoli not wanting to sell. The Sociedad right back Odriozola, though he is a bit too attacking for my liking, as he also play midfield. There are a few in Germany, Heinrichs, Elvedi and Weiser and the Leipzig one, whose name I have forgotten. Lots more too though how many of them will even be in the thinking when it comes time to try and buy one I don't know right now. Oh Bilbao's right back. }


{Ed001's Note - we are also keen on Pepe Reina as an alternative to Navas by the way. If Ward goes, as seems likely, we will look out for a 3rd keeper who can also work as a coach, but it is not seen as a priority. To be honest I think, and this is just an opinion, it will be left for now and Klopp will just take a chance on no injuries happening. }

So those are the latest confirmed targets, but you can scratch out Weiser who has signed for Leverkusen, and Jorginho who is likely to sign for Manchester City.

MK Scouser

1.) 11 May 2018 11:03:02
Cheers MK. I remember that conversation now mate. I thought there was something more recent.

2.) 11 May 2018 11:02:18
Thanks MK nice summary of the awesome info we get from the eds on this site.

3.) 11 May 2018 11:36:02
nice one MK. I am sure though someone else will ask the same questions later on today.

Fekir without any doubt my first choice.

4.) 11 May 2018 12:47:00
markp08, I'm not sure Fekir is certain to move anywhere next season if what his father has said in the last day or so is correct, that he wishes to play for his boyhood club ( Lyon ) if they secure CL for next season.

5.) 11 May 2018 12:49:22
Markp08, look at the first post on the banter page 😂 you couldn't write It!

6.) 11 May 2018 18:00:27
Cheers MK although dunno how we are going to be able to throw out random names and piss of the ed’s If you’ve left the most up to date! 🙄.

7.) 11 May 2018 18:31:17
Hi everyone, new to this site.
I'm from Germany, so i just thought i'd tell you what i know about the RBs from Germany, that were mentioned.
Henrichs is a young talent, has played a few games from the start and been subbed on a few times. Bayern have been linked with him after a few good performances at the beginning of the season, but could have just been paper talk. Not so good lately and i don't think we need that now.
Elvedi is originally CB, he's doing well at RB, but offensively he's not enough of a threat.
Weiser is going to Leverkusen, so he's out and it tells you another story about Henrichs.
The guy from Leipzig is named Klostermann and he's a real talent. Unbelievably quick, has to work on his positioning though. He had to recover from a long term injury, but his been back in the Leipzig squad lately. Might have actually been and might still be a surprise candidate for the Germany World Cup squad. He would be the one i would try to sign ;)

8.) 11 May 2018 21:30:14
Nice one MK.

9.) 13 May 2018 07:55:52
Fekir and cabellos 😍😍 along with keita should make our midfield a lot stronger and more versatile for whatever comes our way.

Starting to get a good squad gathered together now. Great to see and a good time to be a liverpool fan.

Now just need to decide who gos on the new top I got yesterday lol prob salah again😉.

10.) 13 May 2018 19:29:27
To see reina again in a Liverpool shirt would be great.



08 May 2018 11:49:20
Ed001, some brilliant articles this morning mate. It seems quiet post-war, so I have a bit of a double barrelled question for you on goal keepers.

I mean, we know the target to replace Mignolet, and compete with Karius is Navas. However, we don't know what is going on with the 3rd choice position.

Could Ward stay? If he leaves will we promote a youngster such as Grabara? If not, will we sign someone like Manninger? And if that is the case, which 3rd choice keepers are we interested in?

Okay, so more of a quadruple barrelled question! I have checked all the pages with the search function and found nothing though. If that is simply because the situation is still up in the air, then apologies for wasting your time.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - we are also keen on Pepe Reina as an alternative to Navas by the way. If Ward goes, as seems likely, we will look out for a 3rd keeper who can also work as a coach, but it is not seen as a priority. To be honest I think, and this is just an opinion, it will be left for now and Klopp will just take a chance on no injuries happening.}

1.) 08 May 2018 12:05:32
Having reina back in the squad would be brilliant such a great personality. Question for ed001 tho i think I saw somewhere that achtherberg and pepe didn't get along? Not sure if this was true but more reinas poor form coincided with when actherberg came in?

{Ed001's Note - it was nothing to do with Achterberg, as such. Reina wanted out so I doubt any coach would have got much from him.}

2.) 08 May 2018 12:05:58
Cheers for the fast and conclusive reply Ed001, mate. I agree with NOTSOZIPPY, you are normally slower to reply than a tortoise doped up on temazepan 😉

Appreciated as always.

{Ed001's Note - hey that's my line!}

3.) 08 May 2018 12:48:14
'we will look out for a 3rd keeper who can also work as a coach'

Very interesting and somebody entered my mind for such a position, Buffon? would there be any chance? I can't see it happening but it's a nice thought, I think he'd be a brilliant coach.

{Ed001's Note - no chance mate.}

4.) 08 May 2018 12:54:21
Would rather have Reina than Navas, at least Reina can still catch a ball.

5.) 08 May 2018 12:59:59
I lost all respect for Buffon when he rallied Italy against Michael Oliver for a correct decision, and then failed to condemn the death threats he received from the 'teppisti disgustosi'. He was one of my all time favourites before that embarrassing scenario.

Reina worked a lot under Xavi Valero (the best goal keeper coach in the world in my opinion) so I wonder if he picked anything up and would be interested in progressing from back up keeper to coach. We know he loves the City enough to make it a long term home, even if he did embarrass himself with how he left last time!

6.) 08 May 2018 14:17:56
“I came here to help the club and the club has helped me as well, ” Neves told Sky Sports.

“I think we achieved all our goals, as an individual and as a team.

“It is normal as big clubs see our work, not just me but all the boys, but I am really happy here.

“I want to stay here and I want to enjoy the Premier League with this fantastic club. ”

Quote from Ruben Neves yesterday.

By the way. He already is playing for a Champions league manager. Up the Wolves!

{Ed001's Note - mate you have got the wrong player. Navas not Neves.}

7.) 08 May 2018 16:31:31
That's true MK, unfortunately mate.

8.) 08 May 2018 17:18:52
Reina over Navas any day of the week.

9.) 08 May 2018 17:34:01
I was under the understanding that Reina had agreed to join AC next season.

10.) 08 May 2018 18:32:12
I think Reina's only joining Milan if he gets to be first choice (i. e. Donnarumma leaving) .

11.) 08 May 2018 21:49:42
Reina is still one of the best in Italy. Vastly expeienced, He is a true leader at the back! His distribution is top class and Napoli plays high line. He would fit in brilliantly at Liverpool.

12.) 09 May 2018 12:30:19
Navas is truly awful and im being kind there too.




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12 Jul 2018 08:57:50
Brover, I missed your reply yesterday but just to be clear, I was expressing shock at Sturridge potentially being an alternative to Fekir hence saying "Wait, what? " at the end of the post!

I wasn't suggesting it. I read it elsewhere.

MK Scouser

1.) 12 Jul 2018 09:21:32
MK, no prob man. I was just cracking a joke in my reply anyway. Cheers, MK.

2.) 12 Jul 2018 09:39:12
No worries mate. Joke went over my head so apologies!



11 Jul 2018 18:36:45
Sturridge could be utilised next season as an alternative to signing Fekir. Wait, what?

MK Scouser

1.) 11 Jul 2018 18:44:32
He looked sharp and did well yesterday playing deep. Although he is more of an injury risk than fekir xD.

2.) 11 Jul 2018 19:05:12
We say it every year and then he breaks a finger nail.

3.) 11 Jul 2018 19:34:18
MK, I know you are a true Studge fan. I am too BUT you got to let this go, man.

4.) 11 Jul 2018 19:46:23
A fit Daniel Sturridge is an extremely good player. I'm absolutely gutted that we don't get to see him week in week out. If he stayed fit for 70% of the season I'm sure he'd bring plenty.

5.) 11 Jul 2018 19:51:33
Can he play in goal? .

6.) 11 Jul 2018 19:55:36
Lads, we do this every year. If Sturridge has a decent pre season then the best we can hope for is for someone like West Ham to be stupid enough to buy him for 10m+. Year in year out he has let us down with his injury record whilst picking up huge wages. I know it’s not his fault but we have to move on and get someone reliable. For me I’d have Origi as u just can’t rely on Sturridge.

7.) 11 Jul 2018 21:05:15
I think he'd go for more than 10mil redroom. He is surely a 25mil player, probably 35mil in this climate.

8.) 11 Jul 2018 21:48:30
Prince Hendo would u be happy if Liverpool signed him now for 35mil? We would snap anyone’s arm off for 10.

9.) 11 Jul 2018 21:48:30
Prince Hendo would u be happy if Liverpool signed him now for 35mil? We would snap anyone’s arm off for 10.

10.) 11 Jul 2018 23:22:10
Yeah Hendo he would be worth plenty more if he could play 5 games in a row b4 a muscle injury. Even when he isn’t playing regularly he is injured when the chips are down and other players get injured. Loved him for his first season and a half at Liverpool but unfortunately his injury record is awful.

11.) 11 Jul 2018 23:22:57
Prince Hendo, in what climate? Would you sign a player like Studge for 35m knowing full well about his injury record in the past 3 seasons? If the answer is yes then thank heavens, you don't work for LFC's scouting dept. and financial division. We would be in administration with such transfer tactics.

12.) 11 Jul 2018 22:59:39
It would probably be Studge's arm getting snapped. Signing the contract.

13.) 11 Jul 2018 23:22:10
Yeah Hendo he would be worth plenty more if he could play 5 games in a row b4 a muscle injury. Even when he isn’t playing regularly he is injured when the chips are down and other players get injured. Loved him for his first season and a half at Liverpool but unfortunately his injury record is awful.

14.) 11 Jul 2018 23:22:57
Prince Hendo, in what climate? Would you sign a player like Studge for 35m knowing full well about his injury record in the past 3 seasons? If the answer is yes then thank heavens, you don't work for LFC's scouting dept. and financial division. We would be in administration with such transfer tactics.



11 Jul 2018 10:48:42
Regarding Shaqiri, if he signs he signs; I don't see the parallel between Ox and Robbo. They were always hard working players trapped in underperforming teams. Shaqiri is an underperforming player trapped in a hard working team. It's the complete opposite.

Nonetheless, I'll give him my support and hope Klopp can turn his career around. First thing is to get him to drop a lot of the excess muscle weight he is carrying and then they just need to get him playing for the team and not himself. There is ability in there and if any one can find It, Klopp is the guy I'd back.

MK Scouser

1.) 11 Jul 2018 11:54:14
Does the muscles not help make up for his smaller size? When you have 6+ feet of defenders I would assume he uses the muscles to his advantage.

2.) 11 Jul 2018 12:04:27
I think the ox and Robbo comparison comes from how dead set against most fans were with them signing. I agree his attitude is a worry but people were wrong before and could be proved wrong again.

I’ll reserve judgement on him and see how he gets on.

3.) 11 Jul 2018 12:34:06
Walter, Salah can roll Harry Maguire like a school girl despite being built like Side Show Bob. Aggression and using your body well, coupled with lean muscle is more than enough to win a physical battle. Kante single handedly pasted Witsel, Fellaini and Dembele yesterday night and their combined mass is probably 5 times what he weighs.

You don't have to be built like Gimli Son of Gloin, to shrug off a big cumbersome lump. Shaqiri needs to lose muscle weight, simple as that really. Klopp will tell him straight as well, just like he did when Joe Gomez came back looking like a body builder.

4.) 11 Jul 2018 14:26:31
Great posts, MK. If Klopp wants Shaq then great BUT people should stop bigging him up and making excuses for him just cos LFC will sign him as that is just dishonest. Why? Based on his record (or lack thereof), had any of the top 6 teams signed Shaq, we would all be laughing at them, wondering what said team was smoking for signing such an average, overrated, conceited and flat out, under-achieving player.

Using Ox or Robbo is a false argument cos their attitude, work ethic and determination to be great, was not the issue. I did not want Ox or Robbo cos he was dreadful at Arsenal (Robbo still had a tonne to prove) and did not know what they offered, not cos their attitude stunk, had big egso or were conceited under-achieving flop. That should be the distinction here. If Shaq comes, he has my support just like Ox and Robbo got when they signed and I agree, he needs to lose some weight starting with that big head of his cos he won't last 20 mins in our system with the amount of "rondeur" he is working with up top and in the mid-area.

5.) 11 Jul 2018 16:34:18
"Salah can roll Harry Maguire like a school girl despite being built like Side Show Bob" - MK

Quote of the year that, absolutely brilliant MK xD.

6.) 11 Jul 2018 16:57:03
Good points mk. Always enjoy your input. Thanks for the reply.

7.) 11 Jul 2018 18:19:16
Spot on, Philinho. Sorry MK but I'm keeping that quote on Salah and Maguire. Might wanna copyright that.



11 Jul 2018 08:18:44
I'm almost speechless at the Karius stuff. It's sickening that the vitriol getting through is the nicer stuff that didn't get cut. I really have no words. Just, wow.

On a side note Congrats to Wilson on his new contract. Also, how good was Ojo yesterday? Looks like Wilson isn't the only one fighting for his future!

MK Scouser

1.) 11 Jul 2018 08:41:05
What did you expect though MK, that was only a practice game as well imagine when it happens in a real game. I think it was Bob Paisley who said every player finds their own level, Karius I'm afraid is not Liverpool's level.

2.) 11 Jul 2018 08:41:29
I know, all the abuse rising again. Do people not think the vitriol he's already received, the death threats he's received himself and those against his kids (kids for Christ's sake) wouldn't affect him?

{Ed002's Note - I deleted a lot of pretty nasty stuff alst night. You are absolute right though.}

3.) 11 Jul 2018 08:43:17
Spot on mk. So disappointing. Every time I type in ynwa it autocorrects to unwanted. Go figure.

4.) 11 Jul 2018 08:59:53
Spot on Irish Bill. This situation is the like telling your mate he'll be in a car accident, and then deliberately running him over, just so you could say "I told you so".

It doesn't make anyone a genius to engineer the collapse of a player, and deliberately break a grown man's spirit. I have nothing else to say on the matter really. People don't listen to reason on the internet.

5.) 11 Jul 2018 09:12:49
Choices are to deal with the posts getting through and give your opinion/ feedback or ask the Eds to just cut all negative posts, that will make for great reading won't it.

{Ed025's Note - im with you mac..

6.) 11 Jul 2018 09:23:09
It's unfortunate, but for me it feels like we need to look beyond Karius for a keeper and do it now. Not necessarily because we can get someone significantly better but because any mistakes like this in future will be even more glaringly highlighted and his already shot confidence will just get even worse and the team will suffer as a whole. If he'd had made the initial mistakes in an early round of the League Cup then it wouldn't have been such an issue, instead they were made in front of a worldwide audience in a final for the pinnacle of European football and he will never be allowed to forget that I'm afraid by the British media or by many fans.

{Ed001's Note - or he could rise above it and become stronger for having fought through this issue?}

7.) 11 Jul 2018 09:32:04
Im not going to feel sorry for any multi millionaire who can't catch a big round leather circle not when their are mothers who are struggling to feed their kids day in day out.
Karius doesn't need our pity he needs our support
He is young and I think people are forgetting that.
Let him become what he becomes, support not judge and advise not criticise is what my teacher would always tell me.

{Ed001's Note - I don't see the relevance of money to this discussion. I really wish people would leave that out.}

8.) 11 Jul 2018 09:34:01
McGoveb, this is my feedback 🤔 if people are entitled believe Karius is not good enough for Liverpool (which they are), then I'm entitled to believe that neither are some of its fans. The haters can't have it both ways mate.

The only snowflakes I see are the people who can't handle being told that they don't know the meaning of 'You'll Never Walk Alone'. After all, it's just our opinion so it shouldn't affect them, should it? Unless they're "mentally weak" 🤷‍♂️.

9.) 11 Jul 2018 09:38:15
But you can't expect people to be sympathetic. there's no church in the wild.

10.) 11 Jul 2018 09:39:06
Ey listen boys. No-one should be sending personal stuff to him. Rant on here fine.

But how are you all going to feel if he costs us the prem.? In a must win game against city at the end of the season or something because if we want the league where not going to run away with it, it will come down to very very fine margins. Karius could literally be the difference maker?

1 is it fair to him that that could be the case
2 is it fair on us to have that be he case for the second year in a row because klopp was to bone idle to make a signing.

Wenger went down this road. To loyal, to trusting and to god damn stubborn.

Is it really he was right about karius so he sticks with him.?

If so then if it costs us the anger must be directed at klopp not karius because he has had a whole window to make a decision.

11.) 11 Jul 2018 09:44:37
What a shame.
But where does this leave the team?
If Karius is getting pelters after a friendly, what would happen if he cost the team points?
Ed001 said he thought that pre-season would effectively decide the issue, and I guess that's what may be playing out.
In which case, it's either Ward or a new keeper on the way (think it will be Butland, myself)?

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained over and over, Liverpool will have to get a replacement for Mignolet unless Klopp can persuade him to stay (then the fans can blame Mignolet as well but not Klopp.}

12.) 11 Jul 2018 09:40:02
I'd love to think he could Ed001 but I just think there may be too much focus on him going into the start of the season and each tiny error will just make things even worse for him. I've no idea what the club is doing in terms of looking at new keepers but I'm not sure leaving him in the firing line for 2018/ 19 is for the best. Happy to be proven wrong.

13.) 11 Jul 2018 09:41:32
Please don't misunderstand me Ed001 I mention money because i think it is silly to act like footballers are immune to mistakes or issues because they have money but people seem to think this makes them not need support.
I will not insult the lad because I want him to succeed I will not pity him because his life is more likely easier in various than many of ours as he has the means to make it that way
it is what it is
I will leave my concerns for issues that money cannot solve like depression in football or mental health issues
apologies for not making this clearer in my initial post.

{Ed001's Note - got you no worries.}

14.) 11 Jul 2018 10:17:29
Kloppsboss, I have no issues with constructive criticism of Klopp or Karius. I wrote 4 articles about our "Goalkeeping Dilemma" so anybody who thinks I'm happy with our Goalkeeping situation is deluded. I'm under no illusions. Karius has flaws and I scored him pretty much just above the Premier League average.

The problem is, some people (not all to be fair) don't point out his flaws and balance them off with his strengths, or by making sensible suggestions. The same people just repeatedly shove their negativity in our faces. If you point something out, fine. If you do it every day, sometimes more than once, you are a bully. It's that simple.

If i tell my brother he's putting on weight, that is just honesty. I've made my point. If I tell him at every opportunity then I am just being a knob. I don't particularly rate Clyne, Mignolet or Matip but you don't hear about it every half an hour because I have better things to do than pick on Liverpool players 🤷‍♂️

If people are too soft to have their negativity challenged, don't post it? What else do they expect when they come onto a Liverpool forum to criticise Liverpool players? Make your point by all means, but be fair at least and be prepared for disagreements. Is that too much to ask? Or are we only mature enough to make jokes and pick on peoples flaws, without being challenged?

I don't really believe anyone is a bad supporter. My last reply was just a bit of a wind up. But I do think a lot of people are misguided and don't know the where the fine line is between criticism and abuse is.

15.) 11 Jul 2018 11:06:25
Its a shame we didn't try and buy Buffon or try and get Reina back just someone with life and game experience that could have worked with Karius to get him through this as after all he is young. i like how he is prepared to show up and not shrink away it shows he has Balls. he must be working hard in training for Klopp to stick by him. i just think we need an experienced keeper next to him.

16.) 11 Jul 2018 10:02:02
Ed002 I was meaning that Karius would stay but his shaky form (if it were to continue) would see him as the No.2 when the season started?

17.) 11 Jul 2018 13:06:16
MK, I think it's important to remember why he is being criticised, I don't think it's fair to say people are trying to engineer his collapse. He has played, he has made some mistakes and unfortunately he has backed up those mistakes with others.

Fans are concerned that we're going to go into another season with a dud keeper. That's a justifiable concern and it's unsurprising that it remains top of the agenda.



02 Jul 2018 08:11:42
Salah signs a new long term deal to stay with Liverpool! Praise be to Anubis, Ra, Osiris and any other mythological Egyptian gods!

MK Scouser

1.) 02 Jul 2018 08:31:32
Great news. Let's just hope he finds consistency season in, season out. Remember a good season from Studge and the long term deal he signed? Not comparing the two or being negative, I love that he has shown commitment. With long term deals in place for arguably our 3 most important players, Salah, Bobby and Virgil, the club is clearly doing good work.

2.) 02 Jul 2018 08:50:03
Exactly Burkey! Salah, Bobby, Virgil, Fabinho and Keita all widely regarded top class players, guaranteed to be here next season. Hopefully get Mane tied down to a new deal too, in the coming weeks!

Throw in Hendo, Trent, Lovren and Robertson (who I believe are the heart and passion in the team) and we have a great team. Just need either Karius to come back strong or a top class keeper, and we have at least the joint best starting XI in the Prem!

3.) 02 Jul 2018 08:54:27
Proves FSG are backing Klopp by paying big wages as well as big fees. I bet we sign two more players for one hell of a trophy push.

4.) 02 Jul 2018 09:35:10
The mythological Egyptian gods? As opposed to the modern ones that you can pop into for a chat on the way to Tesco's?

5.) 02 Jul 2018 12:55:41
Yeah who says the Egyptian gods are mythological?
I'm sure that if you put Salah's heart and a feather on the Scales of Judgement, the heart would be lighter.




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15 Jul 2018 20:57:04
Shaqiri wears 23 for Switzerland. I think him picking that number had more to do with him liking It, than any hidden messages about a number 10 coming in 😉 I do still think we'll get Fekir though.

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15 Jul 2018 15:16:35
There are 3 constants in this world. Taxes. Death. FranklyMrShankly moaning about Navas 😂.

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12 Jul 2018 15:48:36
Thanks I guess Ed, but that answer could potentially be intepreted as obtuse. I'm sure you meant it to come across as acute though.

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12 Jul 2018 14:25:53
Come on Tris, give us an answer between 1 and Tyranosaurus.

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12 Jul 2018 12:28:05
I was joking by the way Tris!

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{Ed001's Note - I gathered mate don't worry, but I wasn't going to mention the name just in case....}




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16 Jul 2018 08:30:23
Totally agree Ed001. VAR is finished for me after it failed so spectacularly on the biggest stage. In the instance, it was the Beast killed the Beauty.

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{Ed001's Note - not so sure there was much in the way of any beauty in that world cup anyway.}



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15 Jul 2018 21:57:55
They don't call him Bobby Dazzler for nothing lads!

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15 Jul 2018 21:02:25
Apologies Red Reaper 😂.

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15 Jul 2018 21:02:25
Apologies Red Reaper 😂.

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15 Jul 2018 20:53:37
Silver fox in the box 😂.

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