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18 Jul 2023 11:55:31
According to his agent, Liverpool have held talks this summer regarding the signing signing Pape Diop. 19 year old Senegalese CM/ DM who plays for Zulte Waregem in the Belgian 2nd division.

No idea who he is, how good he is, or how true this is. But it is what his agent has claimed so thought I'd share the rumour!

MK Scouser

1.) 18 Jul 2023 12:00:26
I wonder if we have secretly entered a world of AI without anyone noticing, because some of these names are definitely football manager regens. I'm sure there are about 20 Pape Diops, Fofanas and Sergio Gomez's floating round.


2.) 18 Jul 2023 12:02:07
Don’t mind this sort of thing. It’s what Brighton do so well.


3.) 19 Jul 2023 08:20:52
I say the same thing all the time Thomas, you forgot the Mendy’s and Diallo’s!
Life feels more and more like a video game with each passing day.


 

 

04 Jul 2023 10:34:08
Latest rumours today are:

- Henderson is number one target for Al Ettifaq and manager Gerrard

- Thiago is a target for Fenerbache

- Thuram no longer wanted by Liverpool after the signing of Szoboszlai

- Lavia is Klopp's 1st choice for DM, but there is a lot of competition

- A €30m offer for Schuurs has been rejected by Torino (who want €40m)

MK Scouser

1.) 04 Jul 2023 10:59:25
Also rumours re-emerging about Kone - originating from Ouest France (French publication/ website) saying that a deal is days away.

One open question is whether we should be concerned about Kone's injury history. According to Transfermarkt, he's had 9 separate injuries since the start of the 19/ 20 season. Most pretty small - 5 of them.


2.) 04 Jul 2023 11:55:10
Can't see Kone AND Lavia surely? Similar type players unless we are going to loose one of Fab and Hendo?

Also, sorry to see Thuram interest end if true, really liked him, but he also was out played and out-muscled vs Ukr at the U21.


3.) 04 Jul 2023 12:04:15
I reckon Pavia would be first choice just from PL experience alone. Schuurs would be interesting but if Matip is getting a new contract I reckon that might be the end of us looking for a new CB.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool should look to a deal involving Lutsharel Geertruida in that case.}


4.) 04 Jul 2023 12:09:57
Kone does seem to have a poor injury record but lots of top teams apparently want him regardless. Not sure we should go for more injury prone midfielders though. A lot of journo's have predicted Lavia will sign for Liverpool and i can't imagine it would be him AND Kone. Makes zero sense.

The Thuram stuff originated from Ben Jacobs. No idea how reliable he is mate. Just passing on the latest rumours.


5.) 04 Jul 2023 12:24:24
Are we interested ed2, duidnt think we would be in for a rb?
Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - He is a very accomplished CB as well - and has partnered van Dijk. He would be an option to Pavard if TAA is to move to midfield (assuming there is space).}


6.) 04 Jul 2023 12:31:41
Ed2 not really familiar withcthis name.
Google mention him as a right back.
Can hebalso play CB?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Yes and he has played there with van Dijk and is of interest to RBL and Barcelona.}


7.) 04 Jul 2023 12:43:20
Ed has spoken. Someone get word to jorg.

{Ed002's Note - The club need to find somebody - Micky van de Ven will not be an option any longer (I would think).


8.) 04 Jul 2023 12:44:17
I still expect thuram to be here soon.

{Ed002's Note - Where are you then?}


9.) 04 Jul 2023 12:53:40
What is the hype with Lavia? He wouldn't be anymore a first team starter than Bajcetie and I don't think he's any better than him either. For the money being quoted it should be a pass.


10.) 04 Jul 2023 14:18:20
Here's an idea. Why don't we bail on both a DM and a CB and just gazump Citeh for Gvardiol? Crazy? It'd be like winning the Charity Shield.


11.) 04 Jul 2023 14:47:05
Van Der Ven is off to Spurs, by all account in the media.


12.) 04 Jul 2023 15:25:12
Thuram will come when we don't get lavia for me. Eds bolton pal.


13.) 04 Jul 2023 15:26:16
I agree polecat. Baj has all the attributes to be a excellent player.


14.) 04 Jul 2023 18:03:06
I'm unsure Bajcetic is physically developed enough to play the 6. I don't have those questions on Lavia, and I also think Lavia is the most talented player.


15.) 04 Jul 2023 18:07:17
I like Baj but I don’t think he’s a DM. Won’t have much of an aerial presence and will won’t compete when shoulder to shoulder with many players. Not saying I don’t rate him as I think he will be an excellent CM, but for that out and out DM position you want someone a bit more physical in my opinion. That’s where Lavia comes in for me.


16.) 05 Jul 2023 09:31:28
They're just stats, but I think given that there is a large probability that people here haven't watched Lavia regularly, then I think using stats on face value is a fair tool in this comparison.

Interestingly, and per game, Bacjetic contests double the amount of aerial duels, won double the amount of aerial duels (probably proportionate), won 20% more of his aerial duels, has more interceptions and duels contested.

anyways it's just numbers, but perhaps suggests that Bajcetic is hardly one o shy away from a challenge.


 

 

29 May 2023 09:49:30
Ed002, was wondering if you could spare the time for an update on centre backs we're interested in. Ndicka has agreed to go elsewhere, and Sporting probably won't sell us Inacio now.

I remember last time you did an overview those 2 seemed the most reasonable left sided CB's to attain. Has anything changed regards to Max Kilman? Think you mentioned his agent was hawking him around. There's also links to Micky van de Ven and Levi Colwill which make sense in terms of the profile we're looking at (young, left footed etc. )

MK Scouser

{Ed002's Note - {Ed002's Note - Max Kilman (CB) Agent has told several clubs, including Manchester City, Leeds and Liverpool that he could be made available by Wolves - but I am sure they are not looking to sell.
Jurrien Timber (CB) Manchester United and Spurs remain keen - price will be significant if Ajax agree to sell and he will not be first choice for either club. As a wildcard option, Liverpool could look to him after losing out on their preferred choice, but he would likely not be a starter ahead of Konate and van Djik which may make it difficult.
Josko Gvardiol (CB) Out of reach now but talks with other sides continue.
Goncalo Inacio (CB) Watched by scouts from a number of PL sides, including Liverpool and Manchester United, with the latter declaring an interest. The other side to declare an interest is PSG. Real Madrid offer a wildcard option. Sporting would rather not sell and are looking to a new contract and an increased release clause. Sporting may not wish to do business with Liverpool.
Evan Ndicka (CB) Liverpool never made an offer. Will stay where he is or move to Roma.
Micky van de Ven (CB) Dortmund und and Arsenal have spoken with Wolfsburg and been told he will be agreeing a new contract. It is not on the TMS yet but I understand it has happened. Liverpool and Manchester City were at a game against Dortmund in November - I had assumed to watch JB but van der Ven scored that day. Team Mino have now agreed a new deal so a sale this summer seems unlikely.
Antonio Silva (CB) Benfica say that "many scouts" have been to watch the player - perhaps they are looking for someone to pay his €100M buy out clause - a move at that price seems unlikely but PSG are keen. Juventus and Napoli would want a reduction in the asking price to make any move viable. Looked at by Spurs and Manchester United. For Liverpool perhaps a Konate replacement rather than a Matip replacement - so unlikely.
Perr Schuurs (CB) Only signed from Ajax last summer and an enquiry from Spurs was met with a not for sale - but a €50m offer would make them listen. I doubt any club would value him at half that but Newcastle, Manchester United, and ten Hag knows him well, and Liverpool have sent scouts. A move seems unlikely this sumer.}


1.) 29 May 2023 10:26:48
Ed002 if we pay the release clause for Inacio will that make it ok for us to speak to the player and then sign him without sporting’s permission.
If so if reported fee £39m does not seem to bad in this day and age for his age.

{Ed002's Note - It is not the way to do business.}


2.) 29 May 2023 10:25:53
Great info ED002, I know midfield has to be the priority but central defense is not far behind. Hopefully the club can pick one of these up if they are an improvement on Matip.


3.) 29 May 2023 11:14:28
Come on Mike Gordon. Get that apology ready.


4.) 29 May 2023 12:32:19
Thanks for the info Ed002, top man ??.


 

 

19 May 2023 08:28:39
Some prestigious squad numbers going to be available next season. Particularly 7, 8, 9 and 10.

For fun only who do people predict will be wearing those numbers next season?

7, i think Diaz will get. He wore it at Porto and probably deserves it.
8, hopefully a new midfield signing. Possibly Mount? . Or perhaps Jones or Trent? It'd definitely be nice to see a scouser in the number 8 shirt again.
9, i think will go to Nunez as he wore it at Benfica. Maybe Gakpo but his preffered number is 11.
10, hopefully it'll be MacAllister as that's what he wears at Brighton and he's heavily linked.

MK Scouser

1.) 19 May 2023 08:50:58
I think 10 probably goes to a new signing like McAllister yes. It was available at the start of the season and none of the current players took it. 7 and 9 would be great on Diaz and Nunez respectively.


2.) 19 May 2023 10:03:23
7 will be Rabiot
8 Ward Prowse
9 Nunez
10 Will be left open because we blew our biggest budget in years on numbers 7 and 8.


3.) 19 May 2023 10:07:29
7 for Diaz will be ideal. A proper winger!
I would wait to give Nunez the no.9. For me, he has to prove himself over a full season. Same for Jones and 8. Trent won't switch from 66, it's an iconic number now. If we sign Mcallister for big money, then he will most likely get 10. I feel if we sign Mount, he will take 8.


4.) 19 May 2023 10:39:29
If mount and MacAlister are the signings I think you're bang on MK mount as 8 MacAlister as 10 and Diaz to 7 and Nunez to 9.

Trent I think loves 66 and has marketed it a bit so doubt he'll change.

Jones to 8 would be a huge vow of confidence in him but could be possible more so if we don't get other signings done though I would imagine.


5.) 19 May 2023 11:33:13
I think a young (but expensive) Brummie will get no 8.


6.) 19 May 2023 12:02:03
As if giving Keita wasn’t desecration enough to Gerrard’s legacy, giving it to Mount would be just as bad.


7.) 19 May 2023 12:02:59
Judes number will be? .? Go on amuse me, number 8?


8.) 19 May 2023 19:03:18
I think nobody took the 10 shirt because it was Sadio’s, similarly I could see the 9 shirt taking a season off out of respect for Bobby. I might just be being an old romantic though.


9.) 19 May 2023 19:03:18
I think nobody took the 10 shirt because it was Sadio’s, similarly I could see the 9 shirt taking a season off out of respect for Bobby. I might just be being an old romantic though.


10.) 19 May 2023 19:39:15
Don’t care about the rest but give Darwin 9, I pre ordered the new shirt will Darwin 9 on it.


11.) 19 May 2023 22:20:36
What is it with the numbers thing? Each generation has favourite players. If they don’t do anything to stuff up their reputation, they become legends / the greatest player ever. In 50 years time, assuming the game still exists, there will be new legends and ‘greatest of all times’. 90% of our fans won’t even consider, as an example, what number Stevie G or God played in.


12.) 20 May 2023 06:09:22
I dunno WDW2, I still love the N64 more than the ps5.


 

 

17 May 2023 18:07:40
Looks like Adrian might be getting a new short term deal? The club have officially announced that Ox, Keita, Milner and Firmino will leave at the end of the season when their contracts expire, but no mention of Adrian in the statement despite his contract running out on June 30th.

I guess that makes sense if Kelleher is a potential departure as you wouldn't want to have to find 2 new first team keepers in the summer.

MK Scouser

1.) 17 May 2023 18:19:58
There’s talk about extending Adrian’s contract for a further year, got to say a little surprised on that one.


2.) 17 May 2023 18:20:32
If we are not in need of any non-homegrown slots then I'm fine with it but I do feel back-up goalkeeper is a waste of one of those slots.


3.) 17 May 2023 19:18:43
Dont think our budgets going to stretch far enough to worry about Adrian taking a HG spot somehow! streamlined squad for next year.


 

 

 

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25 Aug 2023 17:27:13
Appreciate this is just a random name and also that Sporting have an issue with us, but if Salah left I'd love us to sign Marcus Edwards as his replacement. More of a creator and a ball carrier than a ruthless goalscorer like Salah, but there really isn't another right winger like our Mo so it's futile trying to come up with a replacement who can do what he does. Edwards is also homegrown and only 24 years old. He took Spurs apart in Europe.

MK Scouser

1.) 25 Aug 2023 18:05:25
MK, agree with above and think if we replace Salah we will need to build a system around Nunez if we want him to succeed so I would think we would go for a more creative winger like Diaz rather than someone who likes to play in the same way as Salah.


2.) 25 Aug 2023 19:03:46
Spot on Brummyred. Szobozlai on the right of a 4-2-3-1 formation. Nunez/ Jota as centre forward.
Diaz, Trent, Mac Allister, Elliott, Szobzlai and Gapko in the 3 behind.
Thiago, Endo and Bajcetic in the 2 in front of the back four.

{Ed025's Note - Jota should be nowhere near the starting team for me mate, from the bench at best..


3.) 25 Aug 2023 20:19:23
So what are you saying Hand me down, Any money we got from selling Salah, there is no need to invest in another player because we have got it covered.


4.) 25 Aug 2023 22:53:05
Elliot Ness, it should be invested in another holding
Midfielder, a right back and one centre half at a minimum.


5.) 25 Aug 2023 23:27:01
Elliot - I think there are two parts and they can both be true. 1 - we will need to replace Salah. 2 - if we can't do it in this window then we have cover until the next window.


6.) 26 Aug 2023 00:03:24
Yea I like Marcus edwards. Wondered when he’d get his move back to PL.


7.) 25 Aug 2023 22:55:10
I would definitely start with Nunez and Jota is just an alternative option when required Ed 25.

{Ed025's Note - my forward line would be Diaz on the left, Mo on the right, Nunez in the middle with Gakpo just behind him in a false 9 HMDR, if things were going tits up i would bring Jota on for the last 15/20 minutes, just my opinion though mate..


 

 

My current outlook on the Liverpool FC squad

23 Jul 2023 12:13:08
{Ed's Note - MK Scouser has posted a new article entitled, My current outlook on the Liverpool FC squad

MK Scouser

1.) 23 Jul 2023 12:25:07
Good write up, MK.

Only additional comment would be that I’d look to two centrebacks as we know that whatever system we play they will have to patrol a lot of ground. We have 3 injury prone CBs and Virgil who has started picking up niggles.


2.) 23 Jul 2023 12:28:37
Very good post!


3.) 23 Jul 2023 12:57:42
Yes that covers most bases.
On the CBs, Matip takes a fair bit of stick from parts of the fan base but with the amount of change happening in a short while, he'll probably still be around this season.
I'd like to see some pace added at CB, perhaps van de Ven.

A couple of new midfielders for me, with Thiago looking like he will leave. Lavia and one other?

Problems-wise, possibly the experience thing.
Integration of new players may disrupt rhythm for the first part of the season, though these days most top players are familiar with the press and the more commonly used tactics.
I'd add injuries as the perennial worry, especially in midfield which has the highest attrition rate on the pitch.
It'd be interesting if someone could look at how often injury strikes the team, it feels like we lose a player maybe every 4 or 5 matches?
So, incomings, I'd like 3 but it wouldn't surprise me if it were 2 but things seems to change by the day almost.


4.) 23 Jul 2023 14:14:04
My sentiments exactly, MKS.

Bravo, Monsieur.


5.) 23 Jul 2023 13:56:27
Mk cheers for the article and good read.

Quick question to yourself and others. You mention we need to sign a top Centre back now. Which I fully agree with.

But the centre backs we seem to be getting linked too, are any of them actually top quality?

I’m only asking because I probably watch 1 hundredth of the football others seem to watch on here so I couldn’t answer the question myself but I’ve not heard of so many of them.

But there again I didn’t know who Szobozlai was either but I’m extremely excited by him.

So wanted others thoughts on what centre half they’d like us to get outside of Gvardiol who Ed has said isn’t on the table.


6.) 23 Jul 2023 14:43:22
Good post that Adam, pretty much covers everything

I agree, it's defensively we need to recruit for now a good cdm and a top cb would make this a great transfer window.


7.) 23 Jul 2023 14:52:28
MK - Great post. Interesting you have 4 or 5 lads listed in your 24 that have very little premier league experience between them. Plus 4 goalkeepers. Plus Konate, Matip, Thiago are prone to injury. Of course Bradley, Doak can make the step up but the squad quite urgently needs at least 1 defensive midfielder and a left sided centre back.


8.) 23 Jul 2023 16:03:53
Very good round up of where we are Adam, cheers.


9.) 23 Jul 2023 18:28:59
Good post, esp the part about "no need for panic".

I do however think one DM and one CD would be enough to get us really competitive. But then the DM needs to be a true top, top player, with a solid injury record. Ideally with some experience at the highest level. If we go with one DM this player X, with Bajcetic as understudy is fine- wouldn't want to block SB:s progress, think he'll be a real player for us.

If we go with double pivote- well there are all kinds of options then, might even let Thiago shine if he stays.


10.) 23 Jul 2023 19:11:24
Cheers for this Adam!


11.) 23 Jul 2023 19:13:53
It's a though one JK, i don't think any we've been legitimately linked with are top class. But a few did have the potential to be top class at a push.

Thanks everyone. Appreciate all your replies!


12.) 23 Jul 2023 20:23:00
Good post Adam and I agree with most of it as well, very calm and logical, no need to panic ?

Hopefully we will see two or three more quality signings joining us in the coming weeks.

One thing I noticed you prefer Harvey Elliott RW, I've noticed other posters have as well previously. I really like him CM (on the right as well) . I think he's well suited for being involved a lot and a bit better at keeping things moving than he is at flying past players from the wing. Anyway, good to have him on the books and hopefully he will have a good season.


 

 

06 Jul 2023 08:21:36
This is purely my personal opinion but I do not believe Thiago or Henderson will leave this summer and nor should they be allowed to. They are extremely proud individuals and both will fully believe they have a part to play going forward despite being 32 and 33 years old respectively. I also don't think Fabinho will leave although I'm less concerned if he does. He is still only 29 though, he's only had 1 bad season, and he and his wife love Liverpool deeply.

As much as the midfield needed rebuilding you can't strip all of the experience and leadership out of the dressing room in one fell swoop. It was a huge impact off the field when Lallana left, and Milner going will be a similar story. It makes little to no sense to rush Hendo and Thiago out of the club at the same time as Milner. Thiago was our best midfielder last season in my opinion and Hendo is our captain. Both are continually credited with helping new/ young players settle, and also driving up the standards.

I don't think it's a given they all stay, but I just don't believe any of them will leave in the end. Midfield is sorted as far as I'm concerned, especially with Trent's new role. Mac, Jones and Dom give us the ability to press properly again, and from the hybrid role Trent has added that additional recovery pace which the midfield lacked, as evidenced by his exceptional ball recovery at the back end of last season (ranked 1st in the league.

I personally would sell Fabinho and sign a new DM so please don't hound me about us needing to do so because I agree. I just don't think it will happen because i can't see Fab wanting to leave. My main point is Thiago and Hendo are key components in the leadership group though and i would not be rushing them out the door for a Saudi pay day.

MK Scouser

1.) 06 Jul 2023 09:24:18
Wholeheartedly agree MK, I swear some people think it’s fifa where team understanding, chemistry and mood are unaffected by replacing most of your starting 11 in one go.

We’ve done great business so far and already looking much stronger for it. We know have bajetic, szob and mac who aren’t going to be constantly injured like their predecessors. This means we can manage Hendo, Thiago and Fabs time on the pitch and not overuse them.


2.) 06 Jul 2023 09:25:16
I’d love nothing more than Thiago to have a swan song season with us and remain injury free.

I think putting younger fresher legs and better ball players in with him as well as being able to rotate him we could hopefully see the elite version of him next season.

Obviously what People want and what people get are two different things.


3.) 06 Jul 2023 09:32:39
Agree. We can't do a Souness and just get rid of everyone.


4.) 06 Jul 2023 09:46:35
Great (30,000 feet) analysis, MKS. We sometimes don't see the forest from the trees.


5.) 06 Jul 2023 09:59:55
Lallana’s departure had a huge impact off the field? Hmmm. I missed that bit. Did Milly and Hendo cry?


6.) 06 Jul 2023 10:41:30
All I can go off is Thiagos history with Liverpool and I feel he has had a lot of injuries. Our midfield is the engine room and needs rotation to keep players fresh. Once players needed to do more to cover for other injury prone players, Keita/ Thiago then it created extra stress on the others causing further injuries.

He is clearly a wonderful player but if we had to lose another midfielder to get a lavia type player in, I think it would be a no brainer.

As for Hendo, I don't want him to be a starter but I think his leadership and experience could be massive for the club in a similar manner Kompany was for city. Good footballers can be replaced but good leaders are hard to find.

I may be in the minority here but I think Fab could have a good season, the legs had gone across the midfield and, in my opinion wasn't given enough protection. Klopp called him the hoover for a reason and I hope a freshened up midfield can get him back to his best.


7.) 06 Jul 2023 11:02:04
I normally agree with you Adam, and on Hendo I certainly do. Like I said a couple of days ago, I would be more than happy to allow him to see out his contract with us and either sign a new one or move wherever he wishes to on a free. He deserves that and more for the (currently) 12+ years of service he has given us.

I'm not so sure on Thiago. Is he part of our leadership group? I may have missed that. He is a silky midfielder, but can he operate in our current system and can he stay fit?

Of the 3, I would rather Thiago move on to make wage space for others, personally. I especially think that free transfers should be reserved for those who have given the service to the club over a period of time, like Hendo, Milly, Trent (in time to come - easy to forget he is closing in on 200 appearances for us already and he's still only 24) etc.


8.) 06 Jul 2023 11:06:57
Gvardiol, i agree mate. Easy to forget that 15 months ago we were going for the quadruple with Thiago, Fabinho and Hendo. Now though none of them are good enough for the squad. I don't get that attitude. They were probably knackered last season and for me the problem was that Ox, Arthur and Keita offered absolutely zero rotation. The emergence of Baj couplef with Mac and Dom changes the landscape. Fab, Thiago and Hendo finally have legitimate cover/ competition which will hopefully help them find some form and give them time to recover. Jones's resurgence is also a big boost.

JK23 i'm hoping for the same. Thiago with legs around him can still offer us sonething.

Spot on thomas194. Evolution, not revolution.

Thanks Delvecs. It's hard to take a step back after the season we just had but a couple new additions and a change of tactics should put us back on the map.

FPF, the players said as much in interviews. Of course it impacts you when a long standing close friend departs. And also the summer Lallana and Lovren left (2 big personalities) was preceded by one of our worst seasons under Klopp. CB crisis didn't help but you can't underestimate the importance of characters in the dressing room. We have lost Carvalho, Ramsay, Milner, Arthur, Ox, Keita and Bobby already. Phillips and Williams will likely follow putting our departure list up to 9 first team players. We shouldn't be over doing it in my opinion. Looking at who has left we need to focus now on finding a solution for centre back competition and a reserve right back. Maybe it can be done internally with Quansah and Bradley, or maybe we need to dip into the market for a player like Pavard, Timber or Geertruida who can cover RB and CB.

Either way I'm not overly keen on forcing out too many more players. At a push I'd look to replacing Gomez and Fabinho if we can find good offers for them and good replacements. The big characters like Matip, Thiago and Hendo shouldn't be thrown out the same summer we lost Bobby and Milner though. Just my opinion mate.

{Ed001's Note - knackered or just not fit enough due to a very poorly planned pre-season? Klopp admitted he got it all wrong.}


9.) 06 Jul 2023 11:08:03
We bought the metronome Thiago and tried to use him like a prime Kante. No surprise his body keeps breaking down.

That is on the coaches, not the player.


10.) 06 Jul 2023 11:27:23
Nice post MK. Personally I'd let Thiago go, love the guy as a player but the injuries have just been too much, I do take your point about more cover helping though and would love to see him have a great season with us. As per Ed 01, its good to hear Klopp realizes the mistake. Hopefully we get back to high intensity.
Personally I'm really excited and optimistic for the season coming up. Hoping the squad feel they have something to prove after last season.


11.) 06 Jul 2023 13:05:10
Great point Ed001, and another reason not to hastily write off 3 players who were our best midfield 12 months ago.


12.) 06 Jul 2023 13:22:48
Zeddicus, certainly a few players have mentioned Thiago as a huge influence. Nunez and Bajcetic in particular. Thiago has been translating all the tactics for Nunez.


13.) 06 Jul 2023 13:23:57
Out pre-season was our killer last season.

We were still playing pre-season games after our first PL game against Fulham dammit.

At the time, I even ridiculed City for only playing 2 pre-season games, and unless I'm mistaken, 1 of them was the community shield. and we know how they ended the season

Pre-season goes a long way to determine the type of season a team will have. If Klopp has admitted he got it wrong, then the 1st step to improvement is admitting fault, so well done sir. Let's learn from this.


14.) 06 Jul 2023 13:27:18
Indeed. Easy to talk about players performance on the pitch. A bit harder to talk about coaches performance on the training ground and white board.

(Although a lot of people on this site have got it in for Pep. and not Klopp) .


15.) 06 Jul 2023 15:14:34
The problem we have is we don’t have the finances to keep up with Man City, Chelsea and so on. So surely it’s better to cash in on older players if we can upgrade on them rather than lose them for free. I’d definitely let Thiago go, no doubting he’s a great footballer but with injuries and such it hasn’t worked out for him at Liverpool and I can’t see his injuries getting better. Fabinho form dropped so drastically I’m not sure he’ll rediscover it. Henderson’s legs have gone, everyone can see that. I’d be happy to keep him on if he’s prepared to play a bit part however if a Saudi club made a reasonable offer for him surely we’d have to consider it? Jones needs to kick on next season, hopefully a few good games at the end of last season and a good run in the u21’s should do him some good. I’m still not convinced thou at the minute, hopefully he proves me wrong.


16.) 06 Jul 2023 18:31:20
Our pre season seemed ok when we beat City in the Charity shield.

A week later when it went t##s up against Fulham and Utd it looked like a lack of desire than lack of fitness.


 

 

01 Jul 2023 19:51:56
I saw Lavia play a few times last season and most memorably there was of course that shocking no look pass he played across the box straight to Jota for us to score in the 4-4 draw. I don't know if that dead rubber was a good game to judge anyone in as it felt like a friendly for both teams.

Overall last season I thought his main strengths were tenacity, mobility and work ethic. Decent enough ball carrier but very limited passing range I thought. I'm not sure he's ready to start week in week out for a team challenging for major honours. Arguably more physically ready than Bajcetic, but not as good a footballer in my opinion.

On the flip side, I've never seen Kone who's looking injury prone judging by his history and recent injury for France u21's, I've never seen Thuram who is allegedly more attack minded anyway, and I'm not a fan of Gravenberch who I have seen play but have never seen play that well. So maybe Lavia does make the most sense. Hopefully a lot less than £50m though!

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1.) 01 Jul 2023 20:05:51
Defo need a DM, happy for Fab to stay but he shouldn’t be the first choice. Dm and cb if we’re persisting with the box midfield and on paper good summer.


2.) 01 Jul 2023 20:39:04
Football manager fever me thinks. Needs to be playing week in week out to progress really.


3.) 01 Jul 2023 21:03:14
19 year old and a worldie if we buy him, same as the Hungarian guy, I won't try and spell his name because like 100% of people on here I had no idea who he was and never considered him as an a LFC player. But now he's also a worldie and everyone on here seems to have been following him since he was a 7 year old LFC supporter.


4.) 01 Jul 2023 21:23:06
McGoveb, to be honest mate if you think nobody had heard of Szoboszlai that says more about your ignorance pal. In recent years he's played England twice in the Nations League, Liverpool 4 times in CL (and 1 in a friendly less than a year ago) and then also Man City 4 times in the Champions league. So even if you don't watch the Bundesliga there is absolutely no excuse to have not heard of him or seen him play at least 4 times. I also had him in my top 5 midfielders I wanted to sign last summer with Bellingham, Barella, Zielinski and Valverde. I've definitely seen others mention his name in links to Liverpool too ever since he name dropped Liverpool and Klopp in an interview years ago.

I do wish people wouldn't project their own tunnel vision on others. Also why on earth are you not watching Liverpool in the Champions League? I'll move my whole scedule around to not miss those games. If the missus plans the wedding on a day Liverpool are in the Champions league final, I'm clearing off for 3 hours to watch it.


5.) 01 Jul 2023 22:02:06
Hit send too early. I honestly can't see why you think its unreasonable an English Liverpool fan didn't see him twice in 19/ 20 when we played Salzburg (4-3 thriller at Anfield?! ) and twice last year when England played Hungary in the Nations league (he scored the winner in Hungary - ice cool penalty) . A more avid fan might also have watched the friendly last summer (Nunez scored 4 in that game but I only saw highlights to be homest with you) and a pure lover of European football may even have watched him against City (he literally scored in one of those 4 games too) . If you are an England and Liverpool fan you really should've seen him at least 4 times Mcgoveb mate. I'll never forget his penalty against England because i was at my parents for a BBQ and my Dad had a proper meltdown at England getting relegated in the Nations League ?

I'd never heard of or seen Kephren Thuram before 10 weeks ago but I'm not going to start calling people liars who say they have. Some people might like Ligue 1 or actually be French Liverpool fans.


6.) 01 Jul 2023 22:09:28
Not going to lie I’ve only seen Szoboszlai play twice and that was against us in the 19/ 20 season when he was 18/ 19 and I wouldn’t have known I had seen him until I read the comment above.

I’ve seen lots of positive comments on here about him and my son has literally watched every YouTube video of him and he’s very excited to watch him against Bournemouth.

So that’s good enough for me.


7.) 01 Jul 2023 22:43:32
Mk chill out a bit mate, feel like you’re taking a throw away comment far too serious. I have watched every CL game and whilst I’ve heard of him, can’t remember anything he’s done on the pitch. I couldn’t tell you the whole RBL lineup for that night so no idea if he started or came off the bench. Not sure that makes me a less good a fan as you or what, just don’t think you need to prove your superior knowledge by listing every game he’s played an English team.


8.) 01 Jul 2023 22:51:07
That's fair JK23, I don't care if people haven't watched him or can't remember watching him. But when he's played 9 games in 4 years against Liverpool, City and England it shouldn't come as a shock that some people have seen him and can spell his name (Well, izsh)! Plus half the people I know have Firesticks nowadays so if someone told me they were watching the Saudi Pro League every weekend I'll take their word for it ?.


9.) 01 Jul 2023 23:11:06
Just a question MK, most people don’t watch England and most people don’t watch City so the 9 becomes 4 really and I think, unless people are scouts with a particular target to watch (and that just happened to be Szoboszlai rather than, say Nkunku or Gvardiol etc) they wouldn’t focus their attention on one player but on the game. As an aside, and without looking it up, could you say who played right back for Leipzig in the four games against us and how well they played, what their strengths and relative ve weaknesses were?

Not having a go but just saying that a lot of people on a Liverpool fans forum would focus on Liverpool and their day to day life.

I trust the people who are paid to identify suitable players for us and the people who approve the signings - with the glaring exception of Naby, and the ‘interesting signing / loan of Davies and Melo - they usually get it right.


10.) 01 Jul 2023 23:30:04
I remember the name but only for the fact that I had absolutely no idea how to pronounce it.


11.) 02 Jul 2023 00:06:27
Lavia s passing range is perfect for a DM. He is very forward thinking with his passing which I like. Yes it's not spraying the ball 50 yards but it's tidy accurate and progressive.


He has a lot of brilliant attributes for a DM. Could improve his positional play a little. I would say his main weakness is that he only has one season under his belt and it's a lot of money for one season. On what I saw, I would take the chance but it's not my money.


12.) 02 Jul 2023 01:05:11
Missing the point Firmane and WDW. I couldn't care less if other people know who he is or not. I'll openly admit i've not seen or heard of certain players. The games any fan does or doesn't watch is up to them. My wedding comment was pretty clearly tongue in cheek i thought?

I just think it's pathetic when someone decides that because they haven't heard of a player, that nobody else could possibly have heard of them either. I don't care about proving If i have superior knowledge. Football is subjective anyway and there's obviously thousands of players I've never heard of myself.

It's nothing to do with being a better fan or thinking I am. I'm sure there's people out there who go watch Liverpool home and away nearly every week and couldn't tell you anything about Szoboszlai despite being far better fans than me. He's a Leipzig player at the end of the day so being ignorant of him is nothing to be ashamed of as a Liverpool fan and i apologise if my wedding comment wasn't framed clearly enough as a joke. I'm completely ignorant with regards to Thuram and Kone but the difference is I'm not calling the posters who say they've seen them play, liars. So it's nothing about being a better fan, but everything to do with me seriously disliking other people being arrogant enough to assume they are the authority on which players others have heard of before we sign them. Least of all a player who has had very easily accessible games on terrestrial TV multiple times very recently. I could maybe understand the scepticism if he was a 17 year old playing in the Paraguayan Division 2 ?

Anyway, sorry again if i upset anyone. Been drinking since lunch time so probably been a bit tactless today on here. Internet's not great because you can't express your tone of voice!


13.) 02 Jul 2023 01:23:08
Flash, i also have no idea what is correct. Sam Matterface off Talksport said it as "Sob-os-lie" and he's normally pretty good. But this is the worst name i've had to try and pronounce since we were linked with Balasz Dzsudszak!


14.) 02 Jul 2023 03:25:20
@MK, whoa, whoa, it was an observation that not everybody knows who the player is and it’s not unreasonable for a person in such a position to assume a similar level of knowledge amongst others. How we got from there to ‘super fans’ is beyond me. Anyway, it wasn’t meant as an attack in any way, like I say it was just an observation.


15.) 02 Jul 2023 07:22:53
I’m with JK, it was completely out of the blue for me and I’ve only seen him play against us.
He made absolutely zero impression on me during those 2 games.

Lavia made an impression on me and I’ve seen him in several games. I honestly do not rate him as a footballer. I hope he goes elsewhere.


16.) 02 Jul 2023 08:09:12
Davey Sulls, good points there mate. I guess passing range isn't always critical. Especially not if Trent's coming in with the hybrid role. I'm not dead against, but I just didn't see a £50m player when I watched.

Ron K, to be fair he was very young (19 iszh) when he played us for Salzburg. He was very good in the 4-3 but was probably outshone by Haaland, Hwang and Minamino. In the 2nd game he was anonymous like the rest of the Salzburg team. His best performances I've watched were the 2 against England and the 2 out 4 I've seen against City in the last couple of seasons. On Lavia i partially agree on your assessment (little harsh maybe) but I do agree with your conclusion that we shouldn't sign him.

WDW, honestly it's fine mate. McGoveb had some banter. I threw some banter back. As far as I'm concerned it's water under the bridge. You can't swan about on the internet calling people you don't know liars, and not expect a bit of return fire ? I guess that's why it's called the banter page!


17.) 02 Jul 2023 08:19:06
MKS regarding how to pronounce his name, I read that in Hungarian, the Z is pronounced as S hence, his name is simply pronounced Sso-bo-sslai. Or just consider the Z as being silent.

Also, I just met our new neighbours a few weeks back who happen to be Hungarian so I can ask them to verify the above. I’ll keep yo’all posted. Peace and love.

{Ed025's Note - i will be calling him Dom..


18.) 02 Jul 2023 08:55:29
Oli can you also ask them to confirm if he is indeed the next Puskas? ?

In 20 years time I want the goal of the season to be called the Szoboszlai Award. Just because nobody will know how to say it!

{Ed025's Note - the Dom award you mean MK.. :)


19.) 02 Jul 2023 09:05:53
Ed025, the Dom award sounds like something they'd hand out at an annual BDSM convention ?.

{Ed025's Note - but if it was an award for goal scoring MK, would that give Neil Maupay non-Dom status mate.. :)


20.) 02 Jul 2023 09:47:23
Mk not to black cat you but on my wedding day 8-9 years ago (bit embarrassing I don’t know which) we had a late kick off against West Ham.

Me and a couple of guests watched it in another room and the wife was happy with me disappearing for the game (I set my stall out early in married life) .

I think we lost the game 2-0 but to be honest we might have won it 2-0 as I can’t really remember as I was quite intoxicated at this point.


21.) 02 Jul 2023 09:47:35
Mafia boss - I’m ok with that.


22.) 02 Jul 2023 09:07:46
Ed25, I’ll just go with DSz. See what I did there?

{Ed025's Note - dont over complicate things oli.. :)


23.) 02 Jul 2023 11:13:19
Jk23, that is fantastic ? you legend.


24.) 02 Jul 2023 13:10:59
MKS, Ilse what I can do???✌️✌️✌️.


 

 

15 Jun 2023 19:57:51
Mbappe's mum is a Liverpool fan, which begs the question.

Can she play DM?

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1.) 16 Jun 2023 07:48:58
Ed25 raises a good question (& I know people will say good riddance forget about him) but what was keita in the end? A box to box? An attacking midfielder? A defensive one? He just had nothing- did he?


 

 

 

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03 Jan 2024 22:15:57
Jones has been available for 21 games and featured in 19 of them. 12 of them were starts including against Spurs, Newcastle, City, Villa and Arsenal. So not only is he not a bit part player, Klopp also trusts him in nearly every big game he's been available for.

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22 Aug 2023 15:21:46
We found a better player than Gravenberch, in Endo. It would be silly to sign a lesser midfielder now. Gravenberch was the best option of who we were linked to before Endo came out of nowhere, but he was only the best because the other links were shocking (Lavia, Phillips etc) or just over priced (Caicedo, Doucoure etc) .

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16 Aug 2023 13:42:39
Good player but in their opening game his midfield partner, Lerma looked much the better player. The right sort of player to free up Mac Allister though to go more box to box in that midfield duo. Hopefully Chelsea don't get involved ?.

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13 Aug 2023 10:52:23
Long term view, don't forget Thiago, Morton and Gakpo as well who are midfield options. That is 9 senior players on top of the 6 you listed for just 3 positions. I do accept Trent and Gakpo also have duties covering other positions too though. You could equally argue that Clark and McConnell are u21 players who are ready for minutes in Cup games.

I remember 6 months ago Bajcetic was being dubbed our best midfielder by Eds and posters. 1 injury and Baj apparently needs replacing? Baj had 2 bad games for us and they were against Man City and Real Madrid when the whole team had a bad game. That run he had in DM next to Thiago was pretty good even with Keita in front of them. If they could look good in a team performing badly with no press ahead of them, how much better might they look with Macca, Szobo and Jones now there defend from the front, and Trent tucking in.

If we sign a versatile DM, great, we'll be even stronger as a squad (Kimmich, Gravenberch, Thuram etc) . If we don't, we'll still be better than we were last season in my opinion. You can't underestimate how much pressure it put our defence and DM under by having Hendo, Elliott, Keita and Milner as the press when none of them could win a 50/ 50 and Milner was the only one who could even win a 60/ 40. Jones being back on top of Macca and Szobo is a game changer.

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13 Aug 2023 09:10:04
Virgil Vanaldinho?

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11 Jan 2024 20:22:34
I think I'd go with Sergio Ramos. I know he was a defender but scored a hell of a lot of headers and the bloke would've headed a brick in if he'd had to. Very over rated as a defender but nobody I'd rather have attacking a corner.

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30 Dec 2023 11:35:32
Good players combine work rate with mentality and ability. Varane and Evans are the only players at United with all 3 of those attributes and they're at the wrong ends of their career.

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19 Nov 2023 19:27:01
Macca is fine as a 6 with Trent stepping in next to him.

For all the hyperbole about Macca not being capable we are currently 2nd with the best defensive record in the league, unbeaten with 10-11 men on the pitch, and even with 9 it took the worst VAR decision ever and a 95th minute own goal.

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13 Sep 2023 12:39:06
Speaking to the Grandad of my fiancee he always says Tom Finney, Stanley Matthews and Billy Liddell (around the 50's) .

Whereas my dad always says Billy Bremner, Peter Shilton and Ian Rush were the best British footballers (around the 70's) .

For me personally though, I'd have to agree that Wayne Rooney is the best British player I've seen, with Beckham and Gerrard just behind him (around the 00's) .

Anybody picking a player they've not watched play regularly can't be taken seriously, as they don't even have the conviction to forge their own opinion. Generally speaking though, people will always pick the best players from their teenage years. Those coming of age years are when your heroes are established and you remember everything with heightened emotions.

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25 Aug 2023 06:32:25
Sg2, what the asking price is, who knows. But when you see a player like Lavia go for £58m because he is homegrown and has had 1 good game in the Carabao Cup in his senior career, it's quite easy to see why we might be asking £17m for a homegrown centre back who puts down a 6 or 7 out of 10 performance every time he plays in the Prem or Champions league.

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