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14 May 2017 11:48:50
So Luan, Robertson and Kjaer today then?

I like Robertson and have been suggesting him since January so happy there. I have only seen clips of Luan so I'll reserve judgement (as the clips were underwhelming to say the least) . However I really hope Kjaer rumours are fabricated. He is an okay player, but I don't believe he is an upgrade on Lovren or Matip.

MK Scouser

1.) 14 May 2017 11:53:51
We are not signing a CB this summer according to the Eds. Kjaer is a completely fabricated rumor by desperate papers. Luan also pretty sure won't happen. Robertson probably will be the LB we sign.


2.) 14 May 2017 16:50:25
Whata the point in getting hMions league if qe sign robertson. Not even good ebough for hull.

Nees a better lb than that.

{Ed002's Note - If Gomez were to leave then Liverpool will look to add a centre back. Robertson is a player that Liverpool are looking to buy. Simon Kjaer is likely heading to the South of France (if an issuette can be resolved). Luan is of interest but his ownership needs untangling.}


3.) 14 May 2017 17:42:01
Thanks Ed2. Without yours and Ed1's knowledge we'd all almost certainly be lost. ☺.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Nick.}


4.) 14 May 2017 18:33:27
Shame. No lb fix then.

How are yoy going to improve when you buy players like that.

Listen i know support and don't trash but he's just not good enough in any sense of the word.

The money city and united will spend his summer will see them add aboht 150 mil of quality each. Chelsea and arsenal. Totteham i don't know about with the new stadium.

But we have to buy better than that.

Ed001 has done notbing buy rave avout sessegnon and tierney. Celtic and fulham, they are very attainable.

Robertson has to be one of the last choicea rather leave it.

You all will have a go at me but this is why we have never won the premier league. Simple. Signing no better than what's in the team or academy.

Should only wver sign better than what you have.

Robertson better than gomez, milner or even moreno at lb? Nopes.


5.) 14 May 2017 18:44:51
If Luan is the same Luan as played for Brazil at the Olympics, he's a lively kid with some ability. But no idea what he's been up to in the past year and of course, Olympics football isn't a joke but it's not the Premier League.


6.) 14 May 2017 19:16:20
Not all players cost 100 million mind. sometimes you need to spot something in a player and have some balls to take the gamble.


7.) 14 May 2017 20:01:35
Buying part of a defence that shipped in 67 goals so far this season is certainly a gamble, especially when his stats are far worse than Milner and he's only been ok. I just don't see the positives in Robinson. Average defending, average attacking ability. If that's the best we can do then God help us. We need quality not another Klavan.


8.) 14 May 2017 20:07:09
Robertson was subbed today in hulls biggest game of the season at half time after getting roasted, if this is true it's utterly embarrassing.


9.) 14 May 2017 20:26:26
LI've we did with Deli Alli 😀.


10.) 14 May 2017 20:49:52
Like pennant, babel, bellamy, johnson, skrtel, voronin, aspas, alberto, ballotelli, poulsen, konchesky, dossena, adam, diouf, diao, jovanovic, cheyrou, pongolle, cole, traore, cissokho, sahin, ngog, borini, xavier, nunez, allen, kyriarkos, lambert, markovic, moreno, insua, kromkamp, josemi, barragan, el zhar, klavan, degen, assaidi, yesil, manquillo, bogdan, jones, merieles, benteke, downing, carroll, enrique (ANOTHER LB), coates,

A few next henrys and gerrards in there.

6 lbs

Atleast 8 of them signed after qualifying for the champions leage the year before and finishing 2nd

No premier leages for us after.

I guarentee i could search all those namea on here and archives permitted the post will be "going to be world class" "drop x player he's better" "sell him we have our replacement anyway".

There all run of the mill players ans that's how you stay a run of the mill team.

Yoy have to buy the best to be the best or atleast better than what you have.

Itz about raising expectation in the club. Alaba should be the target and why not, aim for an a and youll get a b. Aim for a c and well, no premier league tropheys tells you.

Hate not every player costs millions, well atleast 80% do and they get you titles and trophys.
You only say that to justify signing bad players.

Btw bellamy was a hit his second time around.


11.) 14 May 2017 22:24:02
Is there any chance we could buy be looking to buy two left backs this summer? Robertson might make an ok backup but I'd be disappointed to see him brought in as first choice.

This would mean Moreno leaving, of course.

Robertson against the likes of Messi, Dybala etc in the Champions League could be very embarrassing.


 

 

04 May 2017 14:17:44
Ed001 you have said we are looking at right backs and have been since last summer.

However the Sharkopod only referenced left backs, and Pereira who can play on both sides.

Is it basically Pereira or nobody? Or are there other targets you haven't mentioned. Perhaps even the chance of signing 2 left backs and moving Milner to right back?

Just curious as there is a good chance Arnold's long term future is in midfield or out wide. So if Clyne was replaced it would need to be a player for the immediate future and preferably long term.

Sorry if it has been answered but I can find nothing on the boards or the sharkopods.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - Pereira is a right back who can play left. He is the main target for right back, with TAA and Milner as cover. The priority is left back this summer, right back is seen as secondary. I really do not know of any other option right now for the right back berth. I will ask and see if it is a bit like Chilwell last season or if there are others being scouted.}


1.) 04 May 2017 14:32:19
Does this mean Clyne's being pushed out? RB is a position we can improve significantly by replacing Clyne with Periera.
The link up between Periera and Mane will be deadly.

{Ed001's Note - yes, we are looking to replace Clyne.}


2.) 04 May 2017 14:38:38
Ed001, with the situation you described at right back is it likely that we'll see Clyne move on?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}


3.) 04 May 2017 15:10:49
Great news, feel for clyne as he at least puts the effort in unlike others but he's really not suited to the team.


4.) 04 May 2017 15:23:17
I think I am right in saying ed002 said he doubts pereira will move to us. So there must be more we are looking at.


5.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?


6.) 04 May 2017 15:15:25
Ed001,any clubs interested in Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of much interest right now mate.}


7.) 04 May 2017 15:17:53
Hey ed01, hope you are having a good day!

A question in a similar vein - we are being strongly linked to recruitements in CB and CM, which is kind of understandable with european footie coming next season. Now, it is by no means certain that new players will arrive in those positions, but IF that happens, which members of the current squad would in your opinion be most in danger of being dropped to the bench, or moved on? of course, best case scenario will just see increased competition and rotation, and starters being selected on merit, but I am very curious what the current hierarchy is, so to say.

Cheers!

{Ed001's Note - I do not expect a centre back to arrive this summer, if one did, it would probably be a bad sign for Gomez though.

As for CM, it is likely that Lucas would be leaving.}


8.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?

{Ed001's Note - not yet, but the clubs likely to be interested are those in the lower half of the Prem. If I had to put money on it though, it would be on a return to Palace.}


9.) 04 May 2017 16:02:50
Clyne likely to leav this summer then ed? didn't see that coming mate.

{Ed001's Note - possibly. Even probably.}


10.) 04 May 2017 16:22:39
Its is a pity Klopp couldn't convince his fellow countyman Lahm into not retiring at the end of the season and bring him in on a free for a season or two. He can cover left back, right back and the central midfield position that would be left by Lucas, plus a whole lot of experience. there isn't much he hasn't won.

I know he is 33 now, but so is Dani Alves and watching him play top flight CL football last night you wouldn't think so, set up both of Higuains goals too

Just a thought, Jurgen.


11.) 04 May 2017 16:52:31
Cheers ed

Has him leaving always been the plan then or has it developed recently?

{Ed001's Note - we tried to replace him last summer.}


12.) 04 May 2017 16:52:49
Leaving this summer Ed mate? Didn't know that Klopp is that discontent with Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - why? We had told you last summer the club were looking for a right back.}


13.) 04 May 2017 17:18:36
What is it in Clynes game that Klopp doesn't like?

{Ed001's Note - because he is not good enough.}


14.) 04 May 2017 17:42:32
Peirera likely ed?

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}


15.) 04 May 2017 17:46:36
Right mate, cheers! Is Pereira better?

{Ed001's Note - my mother is better.}


16.) 04 May 2017 17:58:29
Ed 1 that's the best reply I've ever seen on here.

{Ed001's Note - many a true word spoken in jest.....}


17.) 04 May 2017 18:04:09
Haha that's harsh 😂.

{Ed001's Note - harsh but true. I can tell which players are particularly bad thanks to the missus, who hasn't a clue about football, but counts the number of times I swear at a particular player for doing something wrong. She has had to get an abacus to keep track of Clyne's mistakes......}


18.) 04 May 2017 18:07:50
are we interested in her then ed lol.

{Ed001's Note - funny you should say that, she is currently in the process of moving back to the UK just in case.}


19.) 04 May 2017 18:08:57
Nice response to Scouserseb lol people who rate Clyne really do grind my gears, he's bang average in nearly every department. Really disappointed that you say we aren't looking for a CB though Ed, the defensive problems will continue as long as Lovren is first choice.

{Ed001's Note - the plan is to give Gomez a chance to develop into first choice over the season. You can't change fullbacks and centre backs in one summer, so it has to be a bit by bit job. With a bit of luck, Gomez will mean we do not need to worry next summer either.}


20.) 04 May 2017 18:20:19
Thanks for all the replies Ed001. You are a star!

{Ed001's Note - aww thanks. I am blushing now!}


21.) 04 May 2017 18:20:23
Ed001 is spot on regarding Clyne, I did mention not long ago that Klopp wants TAA in the team next season so that could spell the end for him.


22.) 04 May 2017 19:02:25
Palace fans I know don't rate him either and may not want him back.


23.) 04 May 2017 19:21:27
Surely West Ham would be interested. Have barely played a real RB all season. Clearly bilic doesn't rate byram, tho I suppose bilic may be off anyway.


24.) 04 May 2017 19:27:18
Hey edd may I ask if your back together is the wedding back on. Very happy for you if it getting married maybe we can do a whip around and get you a present big love xx.


25.) 04 May 2017 21:44:45
We aren't getting married now Walter. I pulled the plug because he kept accusing me of being after half of his Dubai apartment. I mean sure it had a pretty decent view, but I'm not like that. I only got it valued in secret because I was curious.

{Ed001's Note - if I owned an apartment that would be a good idea MKS.

nrw - no mate, I was just kidding about the missus counting my swearing.}


26.) 04 May 2017 22:55:31
Ahh bless as long as all the edds and posters are happy and healthy.


27.) 05 May 2017 06:24:29
I'm not convinced by all this. If Klopp wasn't keen on Clyne then TAA would be playing. Most of these rumours are rubbish.

{Ed001's Note - you do realise that TAA is not ready this season and is being eased in gradually right? The rubbish is you thinking Couts would be on the bench when Barca's midfield has been on the wane for years and is why they are struggling this season.}


28.) 05 May 2017 10:50:45
If we do not find a RB this summer, will TAA be the starting RB next season? And if we are also unable to offload Clyne, will TAA still be ahead of him?


29.) 05 May 2017 11:27:47
Adding to the fire here, I was told by a friend in January, a business partner of Ryan Bertrand, that Clyne himself was looking to leave, and that Southampton would be looking at Sturridge this summer.

I then asked how much they're going to charge us for Sturridge. I'm thinking at least £40m based on recent deals.

I'll get my coat.

Top bit is true, though - Clyne wants to move back down south.


30.) 05 May 2017 17:54:35
Ed001, so matip with Gomez as maybe first choice, lovren covering. If Lucas leaves, do you think klavan will stay? I know he's just arrived this season, but I'd rather keep Lucas as cover for both and move on klavan?

{Ed001's Note - Klavan is staying anyway, he is back up only.}


31.) 07 May 2017 10:58:49
Honestly don't think Klopp fancies Joe Gomez anymore, last year found minutes for Ojo, Stewart, in the first part of this season both underwhelmed when given some minutes, haven't been heard of since, but Woodburn and TAA found some minutes with some lively performances or cameos given a chance, even with the injuries at the position, Klopp has chosen Lucas over him.


 

 

10 Mar 2017 19:39:21
Not sure on the Chamberlain rumours.

He is clearly a very talented player and seems to be one of the more passionate Arsenal players. He was the only guy who turned up against Bayern. He is very versatile able to play basically any role in our team ahead of Henderson. At only 23 it is very typical of English football that he has already been written off. He has sublime technical ability, great balance and can produce moments of magic on rare ocacssions.

However, there are clearly some things to worry about. His end product for one is truly terrible at times. He can go past 4 or 5 players and then put his cross on the roof of the net! Frustrating is an understatement. What truly gets alarm bells ringing though has to be his injury record. He is out for about half of every season, normally.

Torn on this rumour. To be fair he is allegedly a Liverpool fan and very good friends with Henderson so maybe it makes sense if Can and Milner leave. He could be a versatile impact sub in their place. You have to wonder if it is worth the risk though. Milner although being 8 years older is arguably just as good and can additionally cover both full back positions, but just as importantly is never injured. I'm sure this rumour will split opinion, but I am undecided for now.

MK Scouser

1.) 10 Mar 2017 21:00:31
Me too could end up being brilliant or an injury prone burden but would take him for 8 mill or some sort of swap deal with studge.


2.) 10 Mar 2017 21:18:52
He's not good enough and injury prone.


3.) 10 Mar 2017 22:07:29
There are better options out there.


4.) 10 Mar 2017 22:14:18
Oxs would be perfect for us he could play in the Lallana role of outwide but I don't know if he gets in the team.


5.) 10 Mar 2017 22:23:06
His attitude on the pitch is sublime, just what every fan wants to see, maybe not the big money game changing signing but I'm not sure that's klopps philosophy. He is the type of player that lifts people around him and that's priceless. If klopp worked with him I'd imagine ox is the type of player that would go to war for JK. Could be an inspired signing.


6.) 10 Mar 2017 22:15:59
MK the amount of times Klopp has left me with egg on my face and eating humble pie Im getting sick of the stuff lol. I wouldn't judge any decision of Klopps until a fair assessment can be made. If Klopp feels he can work with Gotze again, if Klopp thinks he can better manage the Ox I'll reserve my judgement until after a season or two. All this pie and i don't even like pastry :-P.


7.) 10 Mar 2017 22:16:59
How can you say he is "not good enough" though? He is 23 years old and has never had a chance to progress due to injuries. At 23 years old most people wanted Carragher sold. At 23 years old Sturridge had been rejected by Man City and Chelsea.

Chamberlain is a very talented player, with a lot of potential. The gamble is not whether he is good enough, it is whether he can finally stay fit and find consistency. Both of which are fairly related.

I have no doubt that on his game, 100% fit he is good enough for our team. How often will that happen though? That is the real question here.


8.) 10 Mar 2017 22:19:00
Maybe I'm watching a different player but Oxlade is a bang average player. Hasn't got electric pace enough to be a threat out wide, his delivery is poor and hasn't the guile to be a number 10 and he lacks the intelligence and physical attributes to play in centre midfield. He can go to City, Chelsea or United as far as I'm concerned.


9.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:31
We don't need another running midfielder MK. We have it in with Wiji and Lallana. We need a deep lying midfielder.


10.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:48
He's still a young lad.
Best is yet to come from him.


11.) 10 Mar 2017 23:10:11
His attitude stinks. Remember that little strop he threw on the field in the first leg against Bayern? Sorry but I only want players who are fully committed, with a good attitude and will not strop on the field.


12.) 11 Mar 2017 01:14:11
Not for me thanks.


13.) 11 Mar 2017 01:22:10
Da Red man that strop showed nothing but his commitment. He tried to close down 3 passes with no help from the rest of team who had given up.

Don't think we need him though.


14.) 11 Mar 2017 01:27:39
Daredman you know why he did that because no one was trying to get the bull back with him . Oxs would be a good signing there's a player in him it just needs to be unlock.

I remember people saying hendo and Lallana are bang average look at them now.

People did not what mane because of his attitude and have we seen anything bad from mane

And if you let him go to a rival and do well you look really silly.

Have we got a replace for Lallana because I have not seen one in are team . Gini naver like him

I'm not saying he should be a top target but if you can get him for 15-20mil you can't go wrong.


15.) 11 Mar 2017 01:28:19
Would rather some of our youngsters get a chance than injury prone new signings.


16.) 11 Mar 2017 09:28:48
Problem is can he stay fit?

How does he stay fot in a klopp team thag works harder than almost any other?


17.) 11 Mar 2017 10:08:59
He's injury prone, has shown little development since bursting onto the scene (albeit this has been hampered by injuries), he seems to lack game intelligence and rarely makes a big mark on the game. I'm not really sure what he would offer or if he would be of the required quality (even if he stayed injury free) and, on top of what would have to be seen as a huge gamble, he would not come cheap either.
If the club is to be smart about its recruitment, and get real bang for their buck, then they must invest the money far more wisely than in a player like Oxlaide Chamberlain. We need to improve our recruitment in terms of money spent and quality - Chamberlain represents a huge gamble and one I don't think we are in the position to take. I our money was limitless a la City then we would have more leeway - as it stands we simply cannot afford to be taking big risks and that is exactly what a move for Oxlaide Chamberlain would be.


18.) 11 Mar 2017 15:19:04
You lost me at "ahead of Henderson" Pure nonsense that!

You then further lost me by then saying he could be a "versatile impact sub"!

Contradicting much?

He'd pad out the squad giving us another option off the bench but he's no starter.


19.) 11 Mar 2017 15:59:43
I look at it this way: Is he going to improve our first team? No. Is he going to start ahead of our first choice 11? No. At Arsenal, he has been played wide and in a central role, so not a specialist but bit of a squad player (potential or not) .

Add his injury issues, and that fact that he is English (over-hyped and over-priced), and it looks like a transfer we probably should avoid.


20.) 11 Mar 2017 17:18:36
That's a good argument Seano. I cannot say I disagree.


21.) 11 Mar 2017 21:25:20
Mind bender I think you misread my post. I mean he can play in any position further forward than defensive midfield. Not instead of Henderson. Hence my suggestion that he could be versatile cover or an impact player.

AG I would say that when fit and on form he would be knocking on the door to start ahead of Lallana. That is why I am querying his fitness and consistency though because it is so unreliable. I'm only instigating a debate buddy. Like I say, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject. I don't think he would be the worst signing but as you rightly point out, him being English will inflate his price; even with only a year on his contract. So there is probably better value elsewhere.

Somebody else used the phrase already, but Chamberlain is the personification of a gamble.


22.) 12 Mar 2017 11:51:21
Think Chamberlain would be a very shrewd signing and would probe a lot of people wrong.


23.) 12 Mar 2017 16:46:19
Chamberlain just isn't worth wasting the money on. If it wasn't for the fact he was English he wouldn't even be a £10 million player. We would be better off signing Brandt as he's got more potential and even now is a far superior footballer. If it's simply a matter of choosing a winger because he's 'English', we may as well do our annual trip to Southampton and buy Redmond.


24.) 13 Mar 2017 17:42:52
He wants to play te box to box role, he actually had a very good run at it whenFlamini was't good enough after re signing for Arsenal, and coquelin was out. He didn't show enough for me then to suggest he'd make it. He's a wide player for Asernal when most ohters are fit, and atm, he's been overtaken by Iwobi. I said before if we're getting an arsenal player for a central role, I'd rather it be Ramsey wo for me is much more accomplished.


 

 

01 Mar 2017 18:47:55
There are rumours about now that we will try and sign Francesco Cassata in the summer. He is by all accounts a great young midfielder but that's all I know of him.

MK Scouser

 

 

26 Feb 2017 09:58:02
Helder Costa is apparently of interest. He fits the profile; fast left winger with a good goal return.

He tore us to pieces earlier in the season and has been directly involved in 18 goals this season for a struggling Wolves side (20th in the Championship) .

What are peoples thoughts on him? At 23 years old he is probably more first team ready than the likes of Brandt or Malcom. Plus he is already settled into England and English football so could probably hit the ground running.

It all looks good on paper, but I have only seen him play 3 times so not really got a lot in the way of seeing him play to make a judgement.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - I have watched him a few times now and he does not impress me. Great ability on the ball, but chooses the wrong option every single time. One of those head down and run until it gets taken off him or he launches it into row Z. Then he will get the ball right once and it is a goal. So he is capable. Reminds me a little of a slower but more skilful Aaron Lennon to be honest.}


1.) 26 Feb 2017 10:29:15
Got to say Ed, I watched his highlight reels shortly after posting this and my exact thought was "this guy is like the Portuguese Sterling". He looked so hell bent on not releasing the ball and that is just his 'best' bits!

If this mornings rumours are true we are interested in him as a summer signing. As good as he was at Anfield, after watching his highlights and hearing your opinion I am not overly optimistic!

{Ed001's Note - I have made a point of watching Wolves in recent weeks as quite a few people were looking at him, I would not be keen on him at the cost he would be. Plus his agent, Mendes. Seems a nice guy in person, but he is a proper superagent that knows how to maximise his players' earning potential. Not the kind of man you want to deal with, as you will not win in a deal like that.}


2.) 26 Feb 2017 10:53:57
Do we gave interest then ed?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, it wasn't our interest that made me take a look, it was Everton's, as they were taking a long look at him prior to the January window.}


3.) 26 Feb 2017 11:08:49
If we actually wanted to sign him, wouldn't it have been better to deal directly with Benfica before he made his move permanent to Wolves last month?

{Ed001's Note - yep.}


4.) 26 Feb 2017 13:10:25
While U've been watching wolves ed how has Conor coady been doing?

{Ed001's Note - ok, he has been moved to right back and does well there. Some of his crossing has been excellent, though wasted as Lambert doesn't exactly overload the box. Not done too badly defensively either. Could do with better players alongside him in defence though, their centre halves are abysmal.}


5.) 26 Feb 2017 15:06:25
Ive watched him a lot this season as i go to the home games when i can and in my opinion he is not good enough for us especially at the high price wolves would want i think he should stay at wolves until end of next season and than if he continues to improve he will get a big move.


6.) 27 Feb 2017 06:44:54
Tearing our defence to pieces do not mean you're good enough to tear proper defences to pieces.


7.) 27 Feb 2017 20:12:09
Ron,
Nearly wet myself at that reply.


 

 

 

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24 Jun 2017 10:37:03
This constant abuse of the statistic that Liverpool haven't ever struggled for goals under Klopp at times because they are X top scorers, is really getting ridiculous.

Klopp has managed us for 99 competitive games, and we have failed to score in 18 of those matches. Why is it acceptable to fail to break down the opposition every 1 in 5 games?


On top of that there have been another 30 games most of which were draws or losses where we only scored 1 goal.

So on top of 18 games where we failed, there are also 30 games where we struggled. In other words, in nearly half of our games under Klopp we have struggled to score.

We are one of the top scorers under Klopp because we have scored 4 or more goals on 16 occasions which accounts for 64 goals scored out of the 186 scored under Klopp. So over a third of the goals scored have come in less than a fifth of the games played. The problem there is that you don't need to win by a 3 or 4 goal margin so most of those goals are pretty worthless with regards to the point total.

There are too many times under Klopp where we cannot break down the opposition and that is papered over by the fact that if we get an early goal and the opposition try and fight back, we take them to pieces.

I am not saying we need an out and out striker in every game, but playing a false 9 against a bottom 8 team is a little bit conservative. I really hope the signing of Salah helps breaking teams down because like Mane he is a good poacher around the back post and picks up a lot of goals. As well as that Sturridge finally looks to be fit and will hopefully find some form. Who knows how good Solanke could be.

We may or may not need to sign a striker because we could potentially solve the issue with players now at the club, but denying there is an issue? That is part of the problem. 48 out of 99 games scoring 1 goal or less is not what title winners do. You will never completely eradicate conceding goals. We do definitely concede too many but there are just as many times where we don't score enough.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - sorry but you are abusing the stats as you have not looked at any of the others to make a comparison. How many teams score every game? How often do they score more than 1 goal? Etc etc. You have just posted up meaningless stats again.

We finished 4th, with a defence that fell to pieces on a regular occasions, not just costing us wins, but leading to draws and meaning we had to score 4 or more goals to get the win. You seem to have forgotten how often those games that we scored 3 or more in we conceded goals too.

Anyone with eyes can see the big problem is the defending, fix that and it changes everything, as teams can no longer just sit back expecting us to give up easy chances.}


1.) 24 Jun 2017 10:49:18
Stats for prats (or possibly the other word beginning with a 't')


2.) 24 Jun 2017 11:00:05
Why don't you sit out the front of the club with your klopp out banner. Your a non believer.


3.) 24 Jun 2017 11:03:17
There are lies, damned lies and statistics.


4.) 24 Jun 2017 11:09:12
Exactly Ed001, it been the same for the past 4 years, even with Suarez and Studge we failed to win the league. Defense, defense, defense please Jurgen.


5.) 24 Jun 2017 11:11:15
We have a striker and that is Firmino. That's that. He is an unorthodox striker, but there is a chance that he would improve even further this year.
To be honest, I hate him in the wing position, I think he doesn't have the right skillset and becomes highly ineffective in that position. For me he has to be either a central striker or a secondary one, he excels when he has bodies around him.
If we fulfil the fans' wish and push for a "proper" striker, what would that mean for him? He is not a player for the bench.
I would rather stick with him and hope he makes the next step, he has it in him to be a 15-20 goal player, while making OTHERS to be equally prolific.


6.) 24 Jun 2017 11:36:18
Why not strive for a lethal, dynamic, exciting attack AND a very solid, Chelsea-like defence? Makes weekends a lot easier!


7.) 24 Jun 2017 11:53:37
The team is unbalanced. Great going forward, poor at the back. Anyone who disagrees has a rather strange view in my opinion.


8.) 24 Jun 2017 12:39:46
Hasnt James Milner never lost a game which he has scored in? Why not put him up front, so when he scores, we won't lose?


9.) 24 Jun 2017 12:39:49
MK, your post is laughable, containing a lot of half truths and statistical spin that has been royally debunked by the Ed and others. We failed to score in 18 games out of 99. Did you check the lineups in those games? Did you know if in many of these games where we had enough chances to score and the strikers fluffed their lines? I can keep going hence, your points are severely hollow.

And like Ed said, what team scores every game? So to you if we buy "insert striker name here", we will no longer struggle to score nor struggle to break teams down? Come on, man. Your posts are one of my favs to read on this forum but this one, is a nothing burger, I'm afraid.

We need to sort out our defence as that is where we are failing to fully take advantage of our goal-scoring ability to get more points and our useless stat of 18 points lost from from winning positions, should be what should bother you more than the baseless "we need a natural goalscorer" rhetoric many on here have been peddling with no real facts to support that claim.


10.) 24 Jun 2017 13:42:21
MK statistics prove nothing. 61% of all people know this.


11.) 24 Jun 2017 13:57:27
Statistics are only useful for reinforcing biases. Choose any argument and you can find statistics to back it up.
It is statistically possible to be the leagues top scorers and get relegated.


12.) 24 Jun 2017 14:23:39
get two new full backs, and we will have a 20 per cent better chance of winning the premiership .


13.) 24 Jun 2017 15:30:53
Have to go against the grain on this.
Regardless of other teams and how often they score, we have still struggled for goals at times.
8 goals in 3 games isn't much good if you stick 7 past an opponent and score 1 in the next two games but as long as the stats say 8 in 3 that's ok?
Why are people acting like buying a striker means we can't sort the defence out too? This is madness, we don't seem to be in a terrible financial state so why on earth can we not look to a striker and some defenders?
I felt there were parts of the season where Firmino wasn't an effective CF. excellent work rate, brilliant skills at times but he doesn't always carry the goal threat he should.


14.) 24 Jun 2017 17:08:47
Sod the defence. Just outscore everyone! Mo, Sadio and Bobby, Phil and Danny will be all over them all like a rash.


15.) 24 Jun 2017 19:54:35
Welsh, then work on improving Firmino's output in front of goal as I too, agree that he could do better with his touch and composure in front of goal cos what he offers, NO other CF bar maybe Suarez and Gab Jesus, can offer in terms of work rate, relentless pressing, guile, movement and ability to set his team mates up to score, all the things Klopp requires of his CF's. Klopp will not change his CF requirements just to placate those like yourself, calling for a top striker. That is a fact and people need to get over it and for some, get over themselves. It's not like we are starving for goals. Where we are starving is the silly goals we concede and the amount of points we have dropped from winning positions under Klopp (18 dropped last season) . That is where improvement is needed hence 2 FB's and a change in our defensive mentality should be worked on in preseason.


16.) 25 Jun 2017 03:19:08
Klopp plays attacking football with a style that does sometimes leave you more exposed at the back and susceptible to counter attacks.

Thar been said some od our defending was pathetic and has to be upgraded.

But I much prefer our style compared with the special one and his busses.


 

 

18 Jun 2017 19:22:46
I'm not calling anyone out, but if Aubameyang is available at £60m and wants to come here (as is being reported) I really couldn't care what positions we should prioritise. This is exactly like what happened with Wijnaldum and Van Dijk, ie a player we weren't trying to sign has become available to us; except it is a world class player supposedly involved this time!

Aubameyang is literally in the top 3 central strikers in world football along side Suarez and Higuain. If we even think twice then our transfers are being ran by people even more stupid than we first realized.

World class players don't show up on your doorstep too often. In fact it probably hasn't happened to Liverpool since John Barnes was signed. Even the likes of Alonso, Torres and Suarez only joined us as simply good players.

Why is this even a discussion point? I'm not trying to be patronising with that question, I just cannot get my head around why anybody would be against signing a 40 goal a season player for just £60m. To put that into perspective, Lukaku scored 25 and will cost £100m or more!

Bonkers to pass up this opportunity if you ask me. Open to hear why others would rather sign Mendy or Pereira after one good season though? Let's not forget that United once won the league with a bang average team purely off the back of signing a 30 goal a season striker in Van Persie!

MK Scouser

1.) 18 Jun 2017 19:46:35
Does he want to come Liverpool?


2.) 18 Jun 2017 19:53:01
I'll agree with you there MK, players like him aren't a dime a dozen. If there's any chance then he becomes a priority.


3.) 18 Jun 2017 20:00:58
Are you drunk MK?
Too much sun?
You are normally quite level headed in your posts but this smacks of lunacy.
If we can get him for 60m and he wants to come then great, but I can't see it buddy.


4.) 18 Jun 2017 20:21:56
Auba ain't coming and that is the reality of the matter cos Klopp has said he is not interested in any of the Dortmund players.


5.) 18 Jun 2017 20:39:26
Aubamyang wpuld. be nice, but where would that leave Bobby Firmino? Wouldn't want to be without his smartness in any game, vs big club or small. He hasn't really performed on a wing, can't see him as part of a midfield trio, not if Couts are playing.


6.) 18 Jun 2017 20:48:32
That is Adam's point. If he is willing to move to LFC then it is a no brainer. A top quality player who would score for fun. Does he want to come? No idea! If he does, sell Sturridge and get some money back. A NO BRAINER!


7.) 18 Jun 2017 20:56:21
If what ed001 said that he missed a CL game because he was out the night before with his friends in Milan, i don't want him anywhere near liverpool.


8.) 18 Jun 2017 21:08:23
The question has to be asked, how do you integrate him into the team?
Drop Firmino? Not so sure I'd be up for that and Aubamayang won't come without "guaranteed first team action".
We have to focus on improving our weaknesses and they are almost exclusively in defence and midfield.


9.) 18 Jun 2017 21:13:52
As Irish Rover pointed out, I said "if". I have no idea if it is true or not. But IF it is, in my opinion it is a no brainer.

You don't turn away world class players, and as said as it is that the money in football is like this, £60m is a bargain price.

No offence to Firmino but he is quite simply a very well paid employee who the club doesn't owe any loyalty to. Besides, he is better behind a striker anyway. You can't have your main striker scoring 10 goals a season in my opinion.


10.) 18 Jun 2017 22:02:21
BUT. he isn't coming dude.


11.) 18 Jun 2017 22:39:19
And the there is the problem to African Cup of Nations.


12.) 18 Jun 2017 22:40:46
A fit Sturridge is as good in my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - a fit sturridge and a preston guild have a lot in common der.. :)


13.) 18 Jun 2017 22:49:47
Ron, would I drop Bobby for Auba? In a word, yes.


14.) 18 Jun 2017 23:59:13
Very good Ed. Hopefully this is the 1 in 20.


15.) 19 Jun 2017 01:31:42
He would want a huge pay day as he is in his prime. Aubamayang will end up at somewhere like Chelsea or City and probably be on 300k a week. If we pay him those kind of wages the rest of the team start looking at their pay packets too.
GReat player but not a good fit for Liverpool fc.


16.) 19 Jun 2017 07:37:51
You're letting your heart rule your head here guys.

By your logic MK, if we buy auba this summer and then next summer higuain wants to come, we'd be mad to pass up on him tooo right?

We need defenders and a lw!


 

 

17 Jun 2017 11:48:04
Kevin Stewart has been interviewed and insisted he is not leaving and will fight to become a regular next season.

Just a thought, but with rumours that Lucas is off for first team football, Clyne rumoured to be out of favour, and Milner leaving City for us with the intention of playing centre mid so probably also wanting to leave now; is there a chance Stewart has been asked to stay as the squad utility player? He can play right back, centre back, left back, holding midfield, box to box midfield, right midfield and left midfield! A player with such versatility who is willing to fight for a place could be invaluable next season.

Lucas and Milner are great because they can cover various positions, but Stewart can literally cover every position alone that they can combined.

Certainly got me thinking. Perhaps his Liverpool career isn't as dead as we think?

MK Scouser

1.) 17 Jun 2017 11:58:08
Lucas and Milner, Well they took us to 4th at their very best and if you want to progress you need better players. We need to end these retirement packages for any progress. This club need to put an end to offering contract extension for players who have crossed the 30 unless they are exceptional talent.

If you are happy with Lucas and Milner going to next season then we will finish somewhere near 8th place.


2.) 17 Jun 2017 11:57:25
I still think Stewart isn't as bad as people say and can do a job. As a proper old fashioned midfield destroyer, which we don't always need but comes in very handy at times to free up more creative players, he's the best we'd get without spending 15-25m on someone who wouldn't be a regular starter for tactical reasons. Someone good enough to make us change our tactics like N'Zonzi would probably cost near to 40m so isn't likely. He just needs more playing opportunity so he isn't so rusty every time he's called upon.

{Ed025's Note - with CL football on the horizon i think "can do a job" players should not even be considered hjikle, just pay the bloody money and bring in some good players and make the most of it mate..


3.) 17 Jun 2017 12:02:11
Understand what your saying MK, but realistically if he was going to get a chance he would have featured more the season just finished, I very much doubt he is in Klopps plans for the 1st team.

As much as would love to see our youngsters get a chance to show what they can do with a sustained run in the team I just don't see it happening. TAA is the closest at the moment. Pressure on managers to win games and the impatience of fans to allow players them time to develop wanting them to be world beaters instantly makes it very difficult for top clubs in England to bring youngsters through unless they are really talented and grab their chance. Constant media pressure doesn't help either.

Stewart is at an age where he needs to start playing regularly or his career is going to pass him by.

{Ed025's Note - i agree FM..


4.) 17 Jun 2017 12:04:42
No chance Stewart features next year, he is a championship player. With our depleted and bare squad last year Stewart's still failed to even make the bench so there is no chance he plays this season with us upgrading the squad significantly.

{Ed025's Note - lets hope that is the case sakho..


5.) 17 Jun 2017 12:28:48
I don't think he's a bad layer but no matter how good a midfielder we have we shouldn't consider them a right back.


6.) 17 Jun 2017 13:42:41
Get rid, hopefully get a few quid for him, I would rather keep Lucas.


7.) 17 Jun 2017 15:05:31
I think a utility player is always an asset. I don't think Stewart is that player.


8.) 17 Jun 2017 14:55:32
Ed25 is on the money. We are now in the CL and the PL will only get tougher and tougher to win and also to finish in the top 4. Just ask Arsenal and Utd (who ditched the PL to focus on the EL) . The "can do a job" type players will no longer cut it if we want to improve. Chelsea won the PL by winning 30 out of 38 games. That is now the standard. If you think "can do a job" players will help you get there then, you are gravely deluded.

Same with making top 4. We got 4th with 76 points. We will need prolly another 10 or so points (86 points) to be in the top 4 and that ain't going to happen with average fringe players like Stewart. We need quality in the first eleven and near like for like quality in the squad and that should be target.

{Ed025's Note - i totally agree brussels mate..


9.) 18 Jun 2017 08:00:53
Chelsea won the league with Moses, Alonso, Cahill, Willian, Fabregas and as well as them with Azpilicueta out of position at centre back. Just putting that out there.


 

 

15 Jun 2017 22:02:18
Apologies Eds for a long post. I have no idea how to post articles anymore!

I was recently asked to do some player reviews and after a 2 year break, I figured I'd give it another go!

I hope you enjoyed the read and thank you for taking the time out of your day to do so. Let me know your thoughts.

MK Scouser

{Ed033's Note - Thanks MK Scouser, i posted it on our articles site:

Liverpool - The need for a left sided centre back article


1.) 15 Jun 2017 22:18:48
Good article MK! Can't say I know much about cbs but left sided with strong leadership/ organisation seem to be our most needed criteria. From your article Gibson seems to be the best shout but with all England players there will be a percentage add on on fee!


2.) 15 Jun 2017 22:21:45
Nice one MK. I was told Hoedt is pronounced as Hood in Dutch, I always said Hoad.
I don't know when you wrote the article but John Brooks has now moved to Wolfsburg. He's now the most expensive American soccer ball kicker.
A good read.


3.) 15 Jun 2017 23:12:59
Awesome work MK, i really like the idea of Omar Colley. I am sure he would be a fans favourite but i don't know how he would fair against some of the more intricate attackers in the prem. Still i would love to see him replace the likes of klaven to give us a genuine alternative. I true warrior.


4.) 16 Jun 2017 01:31:04
Hopefully this post goes through and I'm back to business, sorry for whatever I did to get banned, anyway great article mk, look forward to more!


5.) 16 Jun 2017 02:39:00
Nice MK. Surprised to see Brooks on the list. As an American I get to see him on occasion with the USMNT. I have seen both the good and bad. Can be dominant buy seems to have lovren'ish moments. Could be do to his backline partner but when he has Cameron they have been decent.


6.) 16 Jun 2017 17:25:11
I use OneNote to create my own database on players. If I see a game online and decide I like the look of a player I do a bit of research and make an effort to see him again so I can put together an informed opinion. I focus more on subjective analysis now though as a big criticism of my old articles was the heavy use of facts and stats, with very little opinion. They were a bit preachy and boring if I'm honest.

I probably should've double checked my research though seeing as Brooks has now been snapped up! Must've been recent because I added him to my database in March. Apologies if any of the other contract lengths have changed. I shall cross reference my next article with latest information.

Thanks for the Hoedt info though! I can say his name in my head now haha!


 

 

Liverpool - The need for a left sided centre back

15 Jun 2017 21:57:43
{Ed's Note - MK Scouser has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool - The need for a left sided centre back

MK Scouser

1.) 15 Jun 2017 22:09:10
Good article MKS. Well done and thanks!


2.) 15 Jun 2017 22:53:20
Cheers Razor. I'll try sort something on left backs for Saturday. I've got about 15 noted down so I'll him it out haha.


3.) 16 Jun 2017 01:07:24
Hi. First time poster but a red for 43 years.
In regards to MK post I would like to ask If Gibson is 4/ 5 what score would you rate?
1. VVD and 2. Sahko.

Surely with the stupid money being quoted for centre halves Sakho comes way out on top and has Premier league and European experience.

I wish Klopp would give him another go.
Tks in advance.


4.) 16 Jun 2017 06:41:31
VVD has the aerial prowess we lack, is good on the ball, and has more than enough pace to hold a high line. However it is another player with no leadership qualities and who prefers to play on the right. Probably a 3.5/ 5.

Sakho on the other hand is good at winning headers even if you don't know where they will end up, good on the ball even if he looks ungainly, has plenty of speed in the high press, reads danger superbly, and is a great leader at the back. Factor in that he prefers it on the left and winner! Like Brooks though, his injury record is poor so I can only give him a 4.5/ 5.

I do wish Klopp could build some bridges there though. We have a top player on our backs and he will be forced out just to prove a point. The point has been made by exiling him for a year. A good manager would bring him back into the fold having taught him a lesson and improved him as a player and person. Not that Klopp isn't good, I just think he is being too stubborn.

{Ed025's Note - you make sakho out to be franz beckenbauer MK when actually he is more bambi on ice for me, hes a trouble maker and you are well shut of him mate..


5.) 16 Jun 2017 09:35:24
Gibson a 4/ 5 and VVD a 3.5/ 5.

I don't want to be inflammatory with my opinion about that so let's just say I disagree in the strongest possible terms.


6.) 16 Jun 2017 12:15:27
I was thinking about something. Lovren was brought in to replace Sakho, right? Do you all remember this? So maybe, just maybe, the problems with Sakho (on field and off field) predate Klopp and most of us don't know exactly what has been happening in the dressing room or out of public view? Why pin everything on Klopp's stubborness? Maybe the club has simply had enough of his antics (whatever they may be? ) .

To be clear, I'm a clear supporter of Sakho, and my past posts will show it. Unquestioned leadership potential, and a solid football player despite his own unique quirks. But in a team sport, attitude is everything. And if this guy's attitude is way off then it's a giant minus to all the positives he has. Bad attitude spreads like a disease in the dressing room. A title winning team (Chelsea) collapsed the next year because of bad attitudes everywhere, only to regain the title the next year when the issue was addressed and resolved.


7.) 16 Jun 2017 17:33:55
Good read mate.


 

 

 

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28 Jun 2017 19:54:28
A mate of mine in London used to work as an Auditing manager for a high end cleaning firm and claimed a Spurs official he met on the job told him they were interested. I don't know if he was just winding me up now, but he still claims it was legit info. He is so uninterested in football though (one of those who claims to support United, but couldn't tell you who is there captain), so whilst he had no reason to lie, he could easily be fooled by someone trying to look cool.

No idea if it was true in the first place though, let alone if it is still the case now. Seemed believable at the time with the Poch/ Lallana Saints link.

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25 Jun 2017 12:48:54
Voronin you can turn a blind eye and pretend that professionals don't get things wrong if you want. I honestly couldn't care less. Lest we forget that their are some absolutely shocking players who have made it to the top of the game before being found out. Particularly in England. Bramble, Shawcross, Caulker to name a few.

Love the guy who tried to use him catching Mane as a defence though. You literally just reiterated my point! He is a highlight reel defender who is constantly making recoveries because he is too oblivious to stop the danger in the first place.

You want a defender as strong and fast? Boateng, Koulibaly, Manolas, Ramos, Varane, Colley, Kompany, Bailly etc. But that is just off the top of one persons head so there can't much more out there who would cost less than £70m, right? Our scouts sometimes need to do their job and stop raiding Southampton.

I am all for giving a player a chance if they sign to prove me wrong. But seeing as the VVD move is now dead, I feel I can express my honest opinion. He is a terrible defender. It says it all that the only positives you are drawing are his physical attributes! Football is a game won by the brain, not the body. The Germans, the Spanish, and the Italians know this which is why they blitz the English at every opportunity.

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25 Jun 2017 11:18:25
Better off ignoring people like Brussels, TIA. Been here for years now and you see his kind all the time, but they only last a few months. Some people just cannot respect the opinions of others and attack them instead of their argument. He'll go after Ed002 eventually and get banned 😂.

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25 Jun 2017 11:13:53
This is a guy who is supposedly quick but had to pull down Firmino to stop him. Firmino is not exactly quick and Van Dijk was incredibly lucky not to be sent off. He is average and whoever pays £70m for him is a mug.

Fonte is the player everyone should have been after. He made Lovren look good, and then he made Van Dijk look good. Modern football tends to highlight the more in your face players though. Essentially, Lovren/ VVD were the rash, aggressive players who would ping the fancy passes, whereas Fonte was the guy who never got noticed because he made everything look easy and never made a mistake. His positional sense, reading of the game, and organisational qualities are what made him the glue of Southampton backline. Yet they have nearly conned us into paying £100m for his average partners. Thank god that £70m deal isn't happening because it would be embarrassing.

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24 Jun 2017 21:17:49
I remember when everybody on here was saying Mane and Wijnaldum weren't good enough.

Not saying Ox is perfect, but people forget he is 23 years old. He finally seems free of his injuries and just had his best season in terms of end product despite it being his first season playing from deeper. He has been historically an attacking midfielder or a winger. Yet last season he played in central midfield due to Cazorla being injured, Coquelin being the French Cattermole, and Xhaka being a thug with no ability. Then he was pushed deeper still to play as a wing back!

I have my doubts over him as part of a midfield 2. He is a bit of a headless chicken. However I'm intrigued to see him off the side of our midfield 3. He could be very good there in my opinion because he has the pace and power to get up and down, he can tackle, he has a good end product for a young player, and he is also comfortable in both central and wide situations.

Nowhere near as negative as some people make out. With Gini it was his fault Newcastle got relegated, and Mane was supposedly some dressing room distraction. Yet last season they were probably level with Coutinho for player of the season. Klopp likes rough diamonds with a point to prove. So we really should stop moaning and let him get on with it!

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28 Jun 2017 18:52:53
Not sure we should spend €70m on a player who has had 1 good season, which was also a season in which he discovered he had an underlying heart condition.

No idea how serious the heart thing is, but either way he is not worth anymore than £30m until he at least repeats last season. Chelsea signed Kante for £30m after the season of his career, but nobody sane would've paid more than that because he was still at risk of being a one season wonder.

Massive gamble if you ask me to blow so much money on Keita. That kind of money could land most players in world football.

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28 Jun 2017 14:02:36
We should've fought for Kolasinac. He will be the best left back to move clubs this summer in my opinion (unless Sandro or Alaba move) and Arsenal got him on a free!

In an ideal world Bertrand would be an attainable target but what with out strained relationship with the Saints, I think we can kiss good bye to that.

I would be satisfied with Robertson as I think he is a good young player, but there were better options 2 months ago. We just didn't explore them, or if we did the club has made mistakes to end up probably signing an only decent player when we got CL football and should be signing a great player. I am not overly bothered by Mendy or Gaya though. I don't think either are worth the amount they would cost. Robertson is just as good as them defensively and marginally worse going forward, but won't cost an arm and a leg.

It's not my money? Erm, yes it is. All the money in the game comes from the fans in one way or another and I would rather see it invested wisely than burned on Johnny Foreigner because he has a fancy name.

I like Rons suggestion though. Hector is a great player. Can attack and defend to a good level which is very rare in todays game for a full/ wing back.

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28 Jun 2017 10:29:39
Even if he did recover from his injuries he doesn't really suit Klopps style. He is comfortable on the ball and can certainly cross better than Clyne, but he isn't dynamic enough to play as a wing back in my opinion. At left back it would be worse still as he isn't left footed.

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27 Jun 2017 22:28:19
Harry there was some dude on here called East Midlands Scouser in 2014 who predicted that Rodgers would get the best out of Balotelli and he would score 20+ goals a season at Liverpool. Thank god that dude stopped posting 🙄 don't take it personally mate 😉.

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27 Jun 2017 19:32:20
You sure on Oasis Ed? I met Noel once and asked him and 'he said Maybe'.

I'll get my coat.

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