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31 Dec 2017 13:45:56
Ed2 I love the way you casually drop a bombshell in one sentence, ever the tease although what you say is actually factual. Some of the LFC fans annoy you as we are aware but to what extent we will never know as you do the editing so get to see the good the bad and the ugly posts but you are loved here and just want you to know that. I often look at the other team pages and your one liners on many occasions have actually had me in stitches.

Btw for those fans here that are sensitive and have a go at Ed2 as he tells it like it is and have this delusional notion that he has it in for LFC, I urge you to look no further than the Chelsea forum as a reminder to how lucky we are here to have him.

The bombshell for lack of a better word was in reference to the VVD deal being negotiated and concluded by John Henry without telling Klopp or Edwards for those that missed it. All in all it was the man Klopp wanted so it worked out best for everyone I guess.

Anyways Ed2 thanks for another year of sharing your wisdom on the LFC forum and to many more.


{Ed002's Note - Not negotiated per se. They asked for a price, were given one, and agreed to pay it.

And thansk.}

1.) 31 Dec 2017 13:58:42
Very well put Alonso.

2.) 31 Dec 2017 13:54:32
1 minute your saying the deal was done without klopps knowledge but then you just said they asked for a price and we paid it. As if klopp doesn't know any of what is going on.

{Ed002's Note - Clearly plain English is too complex for you.}

3.) 31 Dec 2017 14:37:15
Both Klopp and VVD's agent were excluded from the initial deal on the 21st of December. they were told post the agreement on Christmas Eve. Apparently (and very strangely for a transfer deal) there was no negotiation about the amount. SFC quoted the price and we simply accepted the amount.

4.) 31 Dec 2017 14:45:45
Let's be honest, no negotiation was going to take place after the debacle in the summer. Either pay the asking price or don't bother signing him at all. After the tapping up and complaint filed there was no messing around. Hence why Henry stepped in and took care of it.

5.) 31 Dec 2017 14:59:14
Ed002. please don't shoot.

Do you know that Edwards was unaware, or do you know that Henry made the contact personally? They are two very different things of course.

If I were Edwards I would be more than a little pissed if the owner made a decision about something clearly in my remit, without discussing it. That in most circles would be considered poor management (I am not saying it doesn't happen, but it would likely erode trust with Edwards) .

On the other hand, if Henry and Edwards discussed it, and agreed that the only way to get it done without risk of it blowing up, was for Henry to handle it directly with Southampton ownership, then that would be quite understandable. It is not uncommon for contacts to be made directly between principals to "get things done", but if it were done without synchronising with Edwards first that would be interesting, and may give Edwards cause for concern.

Genuinely interested to understand whether we know whether it is one or the other (retreating to bomb shelter. )

{Ed002's Note - FSG dealt with the transfer from Boston and those in London did not. It is simple, try not to make a big deal of it.}

6.) 31 Dec 2017 15:18:37
I wonder if the Eds have any hair left.

7.) 31 Dec 2017 17:11:10
Well said alonso.

8.) 31 Dec 2017 19:52:50
Having been on this site for a fairly long time now. i can honestly say that although at times ED02 gets a bit angry with the supporters at time. he has every right. His judgement is first class along with his incredible knowledge within the game. ps I should know cos I knew him when he was a lady. best wishes Eds from one of your biggest supporters. great site!

{Ed002's Note - Thanks and have a great evening Tel.}




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17 Mar 2018 19:58:03
Salah, Salah, Salah I just love the man and at this rate he could potentially score 40+ close to 50 goals this season if we end up with extra games by progressing all the way through to the finals of the Champions League. I honestly don't know what to say about the guy as its not just his finishing but his hold up play his passing his touch. Start winning trophies and we can keep this guy here for a long time.

Firmino and Mane had really good games, and it was nice to see Mane drop into the middle and start creating and linking the midfield to his fellow striking partners.

Special mention to Robertson, I didn't fancy him when we signed him like many but have been impressed by the guy for a while now. He is improving, comes across as quite likeable character and seems like an honest hard worker, which you can never knock.

No negatives from today when you have won by 5 goals, well maybe a slight negative is Gini Wijnaldum, which I have said for as long as I can remember needs to be added to the list of players to ship out this summer. Unfortunately he offers nothing in the literal sense of nothing.

We should not fear anyone because with our front 3 we can score goals against anyone. All in all perfect day and bring on Palace!


1.) 17 Mar 2018 20:06:11
Firmino class goal but didn't have a good game.

2.) 17 Mar 2018 20:18:31
I do get the Gini criticism but we don’t know what instructions he’s been given.

3.) 17 Mar 2018 20:23:59
I think Firmino played well enough in my opinion not his usual high standards but still got involved with pressing and obviously got the goal. Henderson had an off game in my opinion and Gini had his usual game, everybody else acquitted themselves well.

4.) 17 Mar 2018 23:46:37
Firmino played well enough, it amazes me when he tracks back 40 yards to win the ball, the goal was beautifully taken, quite hard to pull off when the ball is so high. 8/ 10.

5.) 18 Mar 2018 03:13:55
Gini keeps the ball well under pressure. That's all I'll say. He gives the opposition zero time on the ball. He doesn't put in flashy performances but I bet he is a nightmare to play against.



07 Jan 2018 10:04:48
Exciting times ahead, we have some money burning a hole in our pockets and the question on everybody's lips is who is coming in. Lemar is the one that seems to come up and a very talented player indeed, one I would be happy with. Another option, or route so to speak we could take is improving a number of areas of the team with the money from the sale of Coutinho.

First being a replacement for Emre Can. What if we jump in now with a offer for Leon Goretzka to take him in January instead of rolling dice on waiting in the summer where a number of clubs could and would inter the fray, being a free agent. I am aware he is able to talk to clubs now and sign a pre-contract but maybe putting in a bid and showing our intent might persuade him our way and also entice Shalke into letting him go now as they would receive some money instead of him walking away for free. I believe he is able to play in Champions League so again that might be used in persuading him to join in January.

Second being a player who is one that can operate from a deeper midfield role but also play in a number 10 role or on the flanks in a front 3 in Julian Brandt. He is a player Klopp likes, again is able to play in the Champions League, is young and is a cheaper option to Lemar, but importantly is talented.

Thirdly a defender in Stefan De Vrij, who is a leader and captained Feyenoord at a young age and is very solid at the back. He would not command a hefty fee if we moved in for him now or could sign him on a free in the summer. We need stability at the back and sadly Lovren and Matip don't provide that. Those two should be sold and I would keep Klavan at the club who is an adequate backup option.

I know some might argue pace but a number of good defenders do not hold blistering pace, plus he is faster that than Matip and Lovren without the countless blunders. Joe Gomez is only 20 years of age, a player I feel lucky to have at our club, we should let him develop at right back with Alexander Arnold for next 3 years but bed him in at centre back in cup games. His development should be managed correctly along with Alexander Arnold and how Klopp is doing it now gives both of them game time and experience.

The next position is not so clear cut and that is the keeper. There is an argument for Karius and Ward who have both not played enough to fully be judged but there is an argument for a few good and some world class keepers potentially being available in the summer.

I would follow a similar strategy to the one deployed for Naby Keita and put in a bid for Jan Oblak now for the summer. Keepers like him who potentially could be available just don't come around that often, he is easily in the top 5 keepers in the world and just turned 25 years old today. If there was a glimmer of hope offer him the contract he would want, sell him the project we are building, the history, whatever it takes.

That option would see us with a very good keeper, actually world class keeper along with a solid back 4, a very solid midfield in Naby Keita and Leon Goretzka and a very good player in Julian Brandt. The front 3 speaks for itself and would have the license to flourish as they do because scoring is not our issue but with that back 4 and keeper conceding won't be either.


1.) 07 Jan 2018 10:35:28
Im sorry, but am I the only one who thinks that if someone was to come they would have by now? They knew Coutinho would go and had half a season to get something done. Gues what a team that will let go of their best players in january without getting a replacement shows no ambition.

2.) 07 Jan 2018 10:41:51
Im not sure if we have that much money burning a hole in our pocket with Keita coming in the Summer and VVD purchased this window. That seems close to covering the Coutinho transfer.

I have to say that when Suarez went i was pretty concerned about the team and what was left, with Coutinho not so much. We have a far better squad than then.

One last thing! Please don't be calling Coutinho a legend because quite frankly he isn't and nor have many of the other players that have decided to jump ship over the past years. What have they won at Anfield? Zip, nadda, absolutely nothing! Some great performances and goals does not make you a lengend in my eyes. If that is the case then the owners may need to build a few extra stands so these "legends" can get their name up along with the KInNG. If you want to be a legend at our club you need to be winning The League or The Champions League as well as playing good football and scoring goals.

Suarez, Torres and Coutinho etc, good players no doubt. Club legends never in a million years. Not in my eyes.

3.) 07 Jan 2018 10:48:15
I agree with a lot of OP, I would say in the summer we will see both Can and Milner leave, plus we have just lost Coutinho. So for me both Meyer and Goretzka would be ideal on free transfers. I wouldn’t rule out say a Grujic leaving also. I like and would any of Lemar, Ceballos and Brandt could it be possible 4 of the 5 arrive, given two wouldn’t command a fee?

In the centre half area both De Vrij and Gimenez are available for free transfer also and I’d happily take either of them also. Akanji of Basel also looks a good prospect.

4.) 07 Jan 2018 10:49:36
Didn't realize the window closed on the 7th Booboy.

5.) 07 Jan 2018 11:14:56
@Booboy, the post from In Istanbul answered yours perfectly, its only January 7th and a few days into the transfer window.

@Irish Rover not sure who called Coutinho a legend, yes he was a very good player for us but a legend no.

@Jonesred, I would also be happy with Meyer if Brandt was not available. Now as you pointed out a few could arrive and if it was possible to get Meyer and Brandt along with Goretzka that would be perfect, as all would command achievable transfer fees and some would be free in the summer.

6.) 07 Jan 2018 13:31:02

You need to slow down and relax.
Not even 10 days into the window. Let the club get on with its business of transfers.

Just chill bro.

7.) 07 Jan 2018 15:43:00
Booboy, we are not even in the double digits yet for days in Jan as it is only the 7th. Now if you wanna write off the season if we don't get a replacement for Cou which is possible then, that is your right. We all don't have to go that route.



04 Jan 2018 08:58:33
I know Lemar is talented and has great potential but I don't think he can play in that deeper midfield role Coutinho does, although I don't mind being wrong if someone can correct me. It appears his best role is across the front 3, which is good because if Salah, Mane or Firmino get injured he can easily play in their place but would prefer a more creative player to unlock teams from deep, providing that service to our front 3 and as a bonus cover up top.

I am not sure the amount it would take to prize Lemar away and won't guess as Ed2 has proved its sometimes best to stay away from figures but what he has said is it would be a significant amount to tempt them to sell. There are other good options out there for less who, in my opinion would benefit the team just as much but whether they are attainable in January is another matter.

My personal choice as some of you will know is Julian Brandt who Klopp originally wanted in the summer, who would cost significantly less than Lemar and is also young with the potential to be world class. Another good option Ed2 has pointed out is Max Meyer, who again is young and has great potential. That would allow us to spend money on other areas such as a keeper, which it looks like Klopp is looking to do in the summer as Ed1 has pointed out and another midfielder to partner Naby Keita.

On a side note and more so not pressing but will throw it our there see what others think, if there was a chance to get Ryan Sessegnon and Coric in the summer and loan them back for a year or even two I would. These two if they continue working hard and are managed well seem destined for great careers and are well thought of. Ryan Sessegnon could make the left back slot his own in the future for many years and Coric if he fulfils his potential, well the sky is the limit for him.


1.) 04 Jan 2018 09:16:18
I’ve watched quite a bit of Monaco over the last few years as I liked watching mbappe and Lemar is very versatile. He plays well wide left but seen him play well centrally. Good at set pieces a lot quicker than coutinho aswell. Gets stuck in. Really think he’d turn into a great player for us. Not coutinho level but I don’t think coutinho has done it for us playing in the central midfield role we need him for this season anyways. His best games have been wide left where personally I think Mane should be starting anyways.

Savvyxone mentioned he’s heard Meyer will be a Liverpool players. If we end up with both Lemar and Meyer I’d be very happy. Not holding my breath for any replacement though wouldn’t be surprised if the club don’t bother signing anyone.

2.) 04 Jan 2018 09:52:15
Alonso, imo Coutinho's best performances this season have been coming from the left hand side of a front 3, not from deep midfield a she tends to leave Moreno or Robertson exposed. As long as Mane gets his mojo back and we sign Lemar or any other suitable replacement for Couts, we will be fine. Don't see why everyone is panicking so much.

3.) 04 Jan 2018 10:11:43
Mane will come good again. Agreed it’s a bit weird how he has gone off the boil in the last month or 2, but I think it’s temporary. It wasn’t long ago when I was thinking ‘when did Mane get so good?!? ’ Now I’m wondering why he isn’t as good as he was.

As they say, form is temporary, class is permanent. Let’s hope so.

4.) 04 Jan 2018 10:33:54
Jordz and Indian Buzzer, I will support Lemar if he came as his talent is not in question. I agree Coutinho's best games have come from the left up top and Lemar would be effective there but also feel we would need another midfielder to play deeper in the mould of Brandt or Meyer to provide that creativity for the front 3 to flourish. If two players were to come in than I feel the team and squad would be stronger as a whole. This would give us 5 players in Mane, Salah, Firmino, Lemar and Solanke fighting for that front 3 spot with additional cover in case of injuries/ rotation from a deeper player in Brandt or Meyer who can be pushed forward in the way we do with Coutinho.

5.) 04 Jan 2018 10:37:54
Lemar is a good all rounder, he can play out on the wings, but is equally comfortable in the number 10 or number 8 role or on the wide of a three man midfield. What he can give to us is his ability to get stuck in as well as his shooting and passing skills.

6.) 04 Jan 2018 10:47:14
I agree Nick. Mane will be our best player in the second half of the season. Come on MANE.

7.) 04 Jan 2018 11:18:59
I don't mind being wrong and admitting it as I didn't think Lemar could play the number 10 role but seeing the comments seems he is more than just a forward winger. I hope this Coutinho saga doesn't drag on through the transfer window, great player but the quicker we get shot the better it is for everyone. I was just thinking the other day what a difference a few years makes that we are now debating the likes of Lemar etc instead of the likes of Charlie Adams, Rickie Lambert, Borini, Balotelli and co.



28 Dec 2017 16:55:45
Question for ..................


{Ed002's Note - Take it to the European pages - this is the Liverpool page.}

1.) 28 Dec 2017 17:48:34
And to the European pages I shall go.



28 Dec 2017 10:17:59
Ed1 or Ed25, would like your take on which players Liverpool should look to buy in midfield to partner Naby Keita, and eventually when Coutinho leaves to fill his position? also one position I am struggling to come up with names is keepers, I know we have Karuis but Klopp is not giving him a chance unfortunately but let's wait and see. De Gea for me is the best keeper in the world and shows what a good keeper can do to the team. The only one that comes to mind is Oblak but he is destined for either Juventus, PSG or Real Madrid sadly.


{Ed025's Note - its hard to second guess klopps thoughts alonso as its probably totally different to mine, myself i would go for lemar but hes not everyones cup of tea i suppose, the keeper issue needs sorting out as a matter of urgency and some are suggesting butland who i think is a good shout, there are not that many top keepers available at the moment mate but anything is better than the present incumbent..

1.) 28 Dec 2017 11:17:29
Ed25 Klopp is a hard man to guess indeed unless its Mignolet who is guaranteed a starting spot despite making mistake after mistake. Not sure why but I am not taken on Lemar, although he clearly is talented just not sure he is a good fit for us. Do you know if Liverpool are still watching Julian Brandt? I know he was seen as first choice before we signed Salah. Coutinho will be a big loss and hard to replace like for like but feel Brandt can do a job in that deeper central role similar to where Coutinho plays now but also rotate on the flanks in the front 3. I would spend most of the money from the sale of Coutinho on a box to box midfielder to partner Keita, although in an ideal world Leon Goretzka on a free in the summer, a goalkeeper along with an attacking midfielder in Julian Brandt.

{Ed025's Note - brandt has certainly been linked alonso and he is a very good player but im not sure how feasible it will be to get him mate..

2.) 28 Dec 2017 11:20:19
Lemar, definitely.

3.) 28 Dec 2017 11:37:05
I still think this second half of season we should be looking at giving Karius a good run to prove himself. The lad is highly regarded in Germany and he just needs that chance I think. Him and Ward could very well be the answer going forward. Mignolet has had an abundance of chances already so time to give the others a chance, and regardless if they make a mistake too.

I like what Klopp has been doing with the full back positions. All four players get a chance and it is aiding their development no end. Alexander Arnold and Gomez are both developing greatly this season, and at some point Gomez will move to CB. Arnold a great prospect for first choice RB one day.

4.) 28 Dec 2017 13:48:31
I said awhile back that I think klopp will change formation once coutinho leaves. I think if goretzka comes in him and keita will be the midfield pairing with a new LW salah behind firmino and mane rw in a 4231.

Lemar would be a quality signing. Would much prefer if we bought him instead of Brandt even tho I rate him also or max Meyer (don't get the fuss about him to be honest) . Draxler would be my second choice think he is a class act and would fit our system to a tee also.

I said we were 5 players off winning the league vvd has made that 4 now and keita coming in the summer makes it 3. Goretkza and lemar and a new gk (oblak) and we can knock city off there perch next year.

5.) 28 Dec 2017 11:57:21
Ed25, if I am not mistaken but correct me if I am wrong in that Julian Brandt was interested in joining us in the summer but wanted assurances of game time which we could not give him. If that was/ is the case what is stopping us going back in for him in the summer and telling him he is Coutinho's replacement and therefore guaranteed game time which he was seeking, unless by not feasible you mean other teams have joined the race with Bayern Munich being the obvious one. Klopp clearly likes him as he was chasing him for the better part of this year and as we know if Klopp likes a player he would continue his pursuit in them Instead of buying for the sake of buying.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think he will guarantee anyone playing time alonso, but if he wants him then im sure fsg will give him the green light mate..

6.) 28 Dec 2017 15:08:56
Ed25, I agree with you fully that GK needs sorting and Migs is crap and that there are not too many top GK's available (there are not at all) . I however, disagree that Butland is the answer. To me, he is like many other English players, overrated, poor on crosses, can't play in a high line and lacks the distribution ability that Klopp likes and that Karius possesses. I would stay away from him.

Now like Jonesred, I have always believed that Karius can be good for us provided he gets a full run in the team as he has improved since last season and has made ONE mistake in the 8 games he has played. There is a reason the defence is more secure whenever he plays cos he almost seems to have anything to do. He would have to pass the ball into his own net 10 times to catch up to Migs in terms of mistakes.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that karius is well better than migs brover (lets be honest who is,nt) but it seems that klopp is not convinced by him, butland for me is one of the better english keepers about and knows the league, he may not be in oblak or de,gea,s class but hes miles better than what you have mate..




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29 Jan 2018 19:54:30
Ed2 please chase that up, I would happily tune in every week to watch it.




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13 Jan 2018 12:10:48
In relation to Kman92, I will keep it short.

Problem = Weak centre midfield.
Solution or a piece in solving that area = Naby Keita.




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11 Jan 2018 11:39:34
Macca I LOVE YOU! I think it is Dybala for the record.




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05 Jan 2018 15:26:59
We should be looking elsewhere for a replacement if we harbour any thoughts on progressing and becoming successful.




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04 Jan 2018 09:03:47
The team won't miss him, harsh yes but true, although we will miss the old him the one that briefly showed us what he could do. Its sad to see someone with all that ability never getting to fulfil their potential due to injuries.





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17 Mar 2018 20:26:50
Jayden23 Henderson for me had a bad game, wayward passing and also got dispossessed a few times due to dithering on the ball.




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17 Mar 2018 20:23:59
I think Firmino played well enough in my opinion not his usual high standards but still got involved with pressing and obviously got the goal. Henderson had an off game in my opinion and Gini had his usual game, everybody else acquitted themselves well.




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07 Feb 2018 21:19:38
Scholes was class truly class but Alonso was exceptional, just a fantastic elegant player who stood out in all the teams he played for. Only player I see in a similar mold is Julian Weigl of Dortmund but not to say he is at his level now or ever will be but the boy is special.




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31 Jan 2018 18:07:50
Good ol' Ken Augero, I heard he has been loitering outside Anfield since 05.




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31 Jan 2018 18:05:25
Ed1, I share your sentiments in that we have made it a habit in messing up transfers but am I stupid in holding out hope that we might pull off a surprise signing? I take it we are at least still trying to get the player Macca mentioned.


{Ed001's Note - you will only find out if you are stupid after the window shuts mate.}