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05 Nov 2017 05:13:11
A few thoughts from the game

- Wow. Salah just keeps getting better and better, he complements Firmino and Mane brilliantly and make so many chances it's ridiculous
- Firmino was also excellent, bar the one miss when through on the keeper. His touch and control was top notch, particularly for OX's goal and he harried them non-stop. not to be underestimate what we brought to this match
- Can and Gini looked very much in control of midfield, no fuss or frills, but despite a brief 10mins where WH came back we never looked like conceding control. I like this 2 together sitting deep
- Moreno looks to have had a brain transplant, looks to improving all the time and having a storming season so far. well done for officially turning it around young man
- I really like the new look semi back 3 we have been playing in recent games. We look well in control in defence, and Klavans weakness against pace isn't as exposed and Matip looks a lot more confident with Gomez on the cover
- Gomez I thought was having a stormer until Lanzini's goal and then they started to double team him and he looked rattled for a while. At least he played through it and came back to look solid in the end. good learning experience for the lad
- Still not convinced by Migs, but at least he came for that one cross with confidence

Overall our ability to look solid at the back and still score goals the last 3 games is a big step forward vs. what we were doing against lower sides last year. The balance of the team looks decent and with that front 3 we always look like we're going to make chances. Tottenham still hurts but we are right back in it.

Up the newfound stable at the back, Salah inspired 3+ goals a game reds. long may it continue!

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1.) 05 Nov 2017 13:57:09
Great read, SG. Ma I also add that Klopp played a blinder tactically as contrary to many others, I think Klopp played Salah in the no. 10 role behind Firmino with Mane and Ox on the wings. This is where WH had the most probs as the could not pick him up cos we played a midfield 3 and they played a midfield two in Obiang and Noble. Salah was popping up all over the pitch like a phantom and they had no answer for him. Klopp may have found a way of playing if Cou does leave in Jan with Salah in the 10 role. We shall see.


2.) 07 Nov 2017 15:54:29
Thanks Loris - was a really interesting one and agree he was almost playing like a second striker or false 10 at times. and very effective there too. What a player he’s turning out to be! I think any one of Mane, Firmino or Salah are capable of playing striker, a bit like a slightly cheaper version of having Neymar, Suarez and Messi ;)


 

 

24 Oct 2017 18:26:15
Watching the game again (I know?! ) I think it's clear we got done tactically as well. Tottenham left 2 roaming forwards which often seemed 2 on 2 with our CBs with a quick transition from defence to attack. Our high press was awful too, often pressing one at a time so they could play it around us with ease.

The last goal for example, they passed it ridiculously easily around Coutinho (who pressed high on his own), then into their right midfield. Moreno stepped up into no mans land, allowing them to pass down the line and into space behind him for Kane, forcing Matip to cover onto the touch line and vacate the CB position. Why didn't we have a flat back 4 like every other side and a couple of players owning midfield? There were gaps all over the park. In the end they shut it down but only by fouling which they scored from.

I've noticed for a while now the high press is very effective in some games, but we seem to struggle without Hendo/ Gini/ Lallana/ Mane/ Firmino all in there as a team, as they are all very effective at swarming all over the players and cutting out the passing lanes. At the moment we seem caught between a high press and sitting deep and doing neither sometimes.

I agree with some other posters on here we need to shake up the back 5 with Karius or Ward and Gomez at CB, but I would also like to see us giving them a bit more cover in a 4-2-3-1 and try make it harder for players to expose our back 4 quit so ruthlessly. Then transition far quicker to a front 4 of Mane, Coutinho, Salah and Firmino to run at their defence and play the one touch passes with a bit more confidence they have cover behind them.

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1.) 25 Oct 2017 03:57:08
I honestly think we're missing Lallana. He's gone from taking too many touches to being the player who gets us moving forward quickly with his close control and quick feet he gets out of tight situations impressively then releases the ball quickly. Lately we've been too slow shifting from defence to attack which is due to both Adam and Sadie being missing. Our midfielders are all too similar and slow play down. And just to add no one seems to have mentioned Cans part in Spurs third just before the break as going in at 2-1 and in the front foot could of changed the mentality of both sides. Can looses the ball then gives a stupid free kick away which led to the goal. Matip didn't help matters and then Migs gifted them a fourth. In fact all four Tottenham goals were glaring mistakes by us which could of been avoided. Personally I'd put Ward in goal and play Gomez and Klavan in defence. I know most will disagree with Klavan and opt for Matip but at least Klavan will give his all where Matip doesn't look interested. I want players to fight for my club or do one.


 

 

18 Oct 2017 05:08:02
A few thoughts from the game

- Again a good balance to the side with a disciplined deep midfielder to screen the defence and another clean sheet with almost zero chances given away (not playing the best team but you can only play who's in front of you)
- I expected Klopp to rotate more but hats off for broadly sticking with his first team to build on the Man Utd performance. I expect the confidence boost of the 7 goals will be more important than had he saved legs for against Tottenham
- Salah excellent yet again, but so were rest of the front three, and Milner looked lively (might be a threat to Gini? )
- Can had a good game from deep, I think that's his best position to be honest
- Good play for the back 4 and nice for TAA to get minutes
- Solanke looks better than Sturridge
- nice for Ox to get on the scoresheet

Overall a great day and another step up the ladder of looking solid at the back while dangerous going forward. Let's hope we can beat Tottenham then I think we're in very good shape having played most of our top 6 rivals already.

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1.) 18 Oct 2017 07:30:33
Milner is a threat to Henderon and did more than what Hendo did all season! Can was the key. He starts the attack from the deep. Only player capable of putting a tackle when needed. He is so powerfully built that he skip pass players when charging forward. His only downfall is his discipline and awareness ( when to charge and when not to ) He will excell alongside a proper holding midfielder maybhe at Juventus.
Coutinho was simply excellent. His vision to pick Moreno, Salah, Milner, or any outfield player is what place him inside the elite!


2.) 18 Oct 2017 10:05:52
you're right about Milner sgred. he was fantastic, really really good, looked like the milner of old. Glad he plays for us. Another bonus from the rebirth of Alberto Moreno, another fantastic match for the lad, I think I said it before but he is becoming one of the top left backs in the premier league.


 

 

04 Oct 2017 18:33:49
Quick 2 questions for the Eds.

1) not trying to blame the defence for all ills but how much of our problems going forward may be related to trying too hard knowing we're always at risk of conceding? I've certainly played in a few teams before where a solid defence makes the whole team so confident because they know one chance is enough. likewise constantly thinking that any lost possession or missed opportunity could mean the game is lost seems to panic our attack? The confidence just seems to be seeing out of the forwards as the pressure increases.

To be fair I'll also ask a second question in the defence's defence.

2) How much of the current problems in defence are organizational and come from not defending as a team? Looking back at Burnley the lack of awareness tracking arfield was criminal, while against Newcastle it was clear Hendo went into a press that failed miserably because Shelvey was unmarked next to their player. Gini then failed to either press Shelvey or drop to follow Joselu, leaving plenty of time for Shelvey to hit the pass. Yes the CBs make fairly repetitive errors but the number of times the opposition has played through a half hearted or uncoordinated press from our midfield is scary. We never seem to have any real cover sitting deep, but then we don't seem to be cutting out the dangerous passes too well either?

Thanks.

SGRed

{Ed001's Note - they are impossible to quantify but they are all factors. Just like having a dodgy keeper behind the defence makes the defence jittery, it also will have an effect on the rest of the team. While I agree the press was not done well, the defenders should be reacting to that and dropping off when there is no pressure on the ball. If they do that, suddenly we don't concede from those straight balls. They also need to get closer together the moment we lose possession, they are too widely spaced.}


1.) 04 Oct 2017 19:36:31
Spot on, Ed and SG. The press in midfield, is not being done well right now even tho it was better vs LC. Also, players like Wiji are not doing it right now in midfield as he should have recognized the fact that Hendo Pressed hence should have dropped into the space in behind to cover for him.

The defence is there to bail the players in front of them out, just like the GK is there to bail the team out. None of that is being done right now hence, our defence is often a calamity. On the Shelvey pass for the goal, any CB partnership knows to either step up and play the offside or drop deep and deal with the through ball. Our CB's were incapable of doing either of these simple things. As a result, I feel for Klopp at times cos what else can he do? It just seems like our defenders cannot even execute the most basic of defensive duties at times.


 

 

24 Sep 2017 07:32:47
A few thoughts from the game

- scrappy most of the time but the battling from the boys in red was superb, we were happy to get stuck in at last and do the hard stuff, particularly Hendo who was outstanding
- just goes to show you don't need to play pretty football to win a match, Coutinho was excellent in the first half, as was Salah, taking your chances is everything
- also lovely Cameo from sturridge, nice to see an early sub and plenty of time to influence the game which he did
- on the negatives Lovren started really poorly but at least started to improve towards the end but remains a constant worry
- Migs did some really good things but again a few brain farts and we nearly lost the match, still needs to be replaced IMO
- Gomez struggled too but patience is in order as he's young and did some good stuff too
- midfield looked better with Can deep but Gini was anonymous in first half, we miss Lallana

Overall really happy with the three points and something to build on - being able to battle it out in a tough away game, and rebuilding confidence at the back is everything. A win was crucial but still no mean feat away at Leicester.

Well done last lads!

SGRed

1.) 24 Sep 2017 07:44:37
Someone needs to hypnotize Wijnaldum to think every game is played at Anfield. He was crap yesterday! I would play AOC / Grujic instead of Wijnaldum in away games!


2.) 24 Sep 2017 07:54:19
Oh my days have you heard yourself?


3.) 24 Sep 2017 08:35:36
Agree with your post globally, SG and I thought Gomez was solid at RB as he is not one. As for Wiji, he was not absent for the first half. He was absent for the whole game. Btw, this is coming from a huge Wiji fan.


 

 

 

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20 Nov 2017 09:20:03
Lovren’s always looked more comfortable when on the right IMO - and Hendo did a good job of sitting a bit deeper and protecting the back 4. I know our CBs aren’t the best around but they are far better than we give them credit for if we play a system that gives them some cover.

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12 Nov 2017 07:25:09
It seems unlikely FSG is going to be bullied into accepting a ridiculously low sum, and Barcelona probably aren't going to be bullied into paying over the odds for someone they know wants to leave for them.

Lets just accept what we think is a reasonable figure and allows us to replace him with similar quality and move on. I don’t think that's 150m but neither should we accept less than lukaku or Pogba so around 100m would me more than enough IMO considering few players go for over 70m.

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08 Nov 2017 14:32:06
Fair enough - have no idea why he left but the point is fans always tend to moan about the one that got away rather than supporting those they currently have waiting in the wings. I’d like to see Woodburn getting a chance.

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08 Nov 2017 14:13:20
There was a point in 2014/ 2015 I think where Coutinho got injured for a while, we lacked any sort of creative spark, and Suso was bang in form for the u23’s - side was crying out for a like for like replacement and he was it, but we didn’t make the move. big miss on our behalf.

It happens sometimes, no point in crying over spilt milk, like I presume Chelsea fans probably are now over Salah.

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{Ed002's Note - There were two reasons that led to Salah leaving - I don't think the fans think about it.}


 

 

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07 Nov 2017 13:27:05
Hope it’s Huddersfield - they need a goal scorer and he could do some damage to our competition!

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04 Dec 2017 09:19:09
Ojo maybe - Kent isn’t really pulling up trees. I expect Wilson to get a loan or move on.

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04 Dec 2017 09:11:08
Agree 100% Ed - he's not tracking back enough to play a midfield three (esp with someone like Milner who doesn’t sit back to protect either), but on other hand neither is he as effective on the wing as Mane / Salah.

He's a fantastic player and I was keen on the idea of him dropping deeper but think it needs more of a 4-2-1-3 and Hendo/ Can or Hendo/ Gini setup where has two to give him a bit more cover if we lose the ball.

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04 Dec 2017 09:09:14
I hope we go TAA, Lovren, Klavan, Robertson and Karius. we need to make a move at GK.

I’d like to see a more defensive midfield though with those two FBs and play Hendo, Can, Gini.

Upfront Mane, Solanke and Salah. I’m sure Solanke will score with Roberson and TAA putting in dangerous crosses, and likely to also set up Mane and Salah for a good chance or two.

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04 Dec 2017 09:08:52
Maybe he’s not as good as you thought? It’s a shame but it doesn’t mean Liverpool has necessarily failed in this instance, not every youngster can make it and perhaps he just hasn’t shown enough in training?

Kent always struck me as a talented youngster with good pace and skills, but not necessarily with a killer pass or finish like Wilson, Woodburn, Solanke. I’m far more concerned we get minutes for the latter.

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04 Dec 2017 09:05:38
At the moment we cannot say with certainty no matter who we are going to play that we will win the game’

What side in the world has that luxury? This is a professional sport with 11 vs 11 and no team has a predetermined right to win.

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