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27 May 2018 13:36:43
Absolutely gutted for the boys - not for the result but for the manner of it. I was really hoping for some beautiful attacking play worthy of our run to the final, but while the first 30mins promised much, the way Salah was dragged down and injured, and the way we played so poorly after he left, and watching Karius crumble on the big stage was devastating.

I sincerely hope the whole team can pick themselves up from this, as we seem to be on the brink of something truly special. The biggest disaster of all would be if we let something like this impact the momentum going into next season.

Now for some home truths

- I've always felt the gap between our front three and the rest was ridiculously big. So it proved last night, not just in talent but also in style. Our game relies on Firmino dropping deeper to act as playmaker and to create space, with a pair of wide attackers able to use their pace and movement to take advantage, get into the box and score. We clearly don't have anyone else in the squad able to do that apart from Mane and Salah, and with only one of them on the pitch the opposition can shut us down all to easily. We need a top top wide attacking forward in the transfer window to allow us to remain a threat if any of the front three are injured/ need a rest. It's critical. RM must have been laughing when we took off Salah and brought on Lallana. They knew we wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

- I've been proud of Gini and Milner individually this season, they've given everything, but it is also clear that they both need the front three to click or we look toothless. Without Mane, Salah and Firmino on fire, our midfield is exposed for what it is - workmanlike. We need someone able to pick the game up and create danger if the front three are struggling, and hopefully Keita is that player. Kroos and Modric schooled us once Salah went off and we can't let that happen again.

- GK. I've been one of Karius's backers, mostly because Mig's was clearly not the answer, but I think Karius will take time to get over this, and the team will need time to trust him again. I think it's critical after the final that we go all out for the best GK we can get to start next season. Karius may come back, and I hope for his own sake he grows to live this down and succeeds in the long run, but unfortunately we can't go into next season with him as our no.1, there's too much at stake

- Finally, I think Klopp missed a trick. It was clear going into half time we were struggling with Lallana out wide. I think he needed to shake it up and put Ings or Solanke on earlier and dropped Firmino into the 10, with Lallana in midfield. We should have realised we lacked any threat, trusted our FB's to push up to create the width and pace instead and really gone for them but that's always easy to say in hindsight.

I hope above all we get over this performance and learn, continue to grow and strengthen the squad. We've had some incredible memories from this season and we can do better still if we don't let this get to us.

YNWA lads. Thanks for a wonderful season and here's to the next.

SGRed

1.) 27 May 2018 14:53:04
ings wasnt on the bench so you can expect klopp to put him on really can ya.


2.) 27 May 2018 16:55:41
I don't have qualms with lallan being brought on, throwing an inexperienced player into a game like that would be hard. I think we should have matched their diamond and played firmino and mane up top. We know they'll roam around anyway.


3.) 27 May 2018 17:08:03
I don’t think Ings was in the CL squad 😄.


4.) 27 May 2018 18:17:24
Win as a team, lose as a team. Don't care what the results is they are my team and I am proud they made it to the final. "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win. ". -Bill Shankly.


5.) 28 May 2018 01:07:30
My bad - of course Ings wasn’t an option, i guess the point was, we didn’t have another wide forward that Klopp could replace Salah with, we were forced to changed our system and we went from being on top to being under pressure the rest of the match.


6.) 28 May 2018 07:10:17
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Reality is Klopp watches his players daily and is in a better position to judge. We lost, we will recover and hopefully use this as a great catalyst to go again. Onwards and upwards.


7.) 28 May 2018 08:57:25
Inexperienced players - Trent alexander and Robinson were pretty inexperienced.


8.) 28 May 2018 10:08:10
Woodburn should've been given a spot on the bench and would've been a better option than Lallana. He's the kind of player who can come off the bench and produce a bit of magic, like on his Wales debut for example. The fact we had 3 defenders and 2 midfielders on the bench certainly didn't help. I still don't think Klopp did all he could've to get back into the game, waiting until the 83rd minute and then bringing on Can was pretty pointless. If you need a goal, bring on a striker for dog's sake. Or even Moreno could've had more of an impact, and of the options that were on the bench I'd actually have brought him on to play inside-left instead of Lallana.


9.) 28 May 2018 10:45:30
I would personally have put on Solanke and played Firmino more as a 10 but everyone’s a genius with the benefit of hindsight.


10.) 28 May 2018 15:19:41
Yeah SGRed that would've been worth a shot as well, and of course hindsight is 20/ 20 but my main point is that Klopp did nothing at all. Seemed like he was as stunned as the players were by the combination of the three shocking moments, but that is exactly when you need a manager with a cool head to put any kind of plan in place to try and save the game. Don't get me wrong, I love Klopp, but it's a definite weakness of his.


11.) 28 May 2018 23:34:44
Agree Jurgen Meister. Kloppo gets his subs wrong often when we're losing.

First of all, Ings should've been on that bench as the most like-for-like for the front 3. Of course, not in quality but at least in mobility and versatility. He would've been my choice when Salah webt off injured. We needed to keep the width and stretch them.

Even when we went 2-1 down I would've brought Clyne on at RB and pushed TAA forward. Take Milner off as his legs were done and slot Lallana in the middle. Lallana always struggles playing wide.

Oh well, game is done and I'm not a coach lol.

{Ed0333's Note - so glad your not our coach Greg.


 

 

 

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24 May 2018 15:45:45
I just watched the '05 final again in full as a warm up to the weekend and it's amazing to see the contrast from the 1st to the 2nd half. AC Milan were imperious in the first half but the mood In the second was completely different, right from the start.

The first thing that struck me was YNWA ringing around the stadium before the second half kicked off. not half hearted, but full of pride and belief despite being three nil down. You could sense the mood shift, and you could see it in the Liverpool players immediately. Right from the whistle you could see them respond to every roar as they surged forward, and the nervousness of the Milan players was immediately visible. What was going on? Did they really think they had a chance? The first seeds of doubt were sown, and I bet none of that would have happened if the fans had slinked off at half time.

By the time Stevie scored his goal, which seemed almost inevitable looking at it now, and as he waved on the crowd as he ran back to halfway, the fear in the Milan players was palpable. They knew. A brilliant moment summed it up on the 57th minute after Smicers goal, where you can see Ancelotti looking on shell shocked from the sideline, then the camera pans across on the Liverpool supporters in the background, going nuts. The third goal was inevitable in their minds. No nervousness or fear, just pure energy and belief, driving their side on relentlessly.

The point i guess I'm making, is when you look at those teams on paper, that game should never have happened. That was one of the greatest and most experienced AC Milan sides I've ever seen. But this isn't simply a game of 11 on 11.it never has been. The Liverpool players began to believe in themselves, because we the fans believed in them. AC Milan learnt to fear, because we believed it wasn't over. The fans were a huge part of the story that night.

People can talk all they like about Real Madrid's experience, and how our players haven't experienced a final before. but we have lads. We've been there and seen Liverpool do it. We are the experience in the club and we've seen and heard it all before. If we roar on every attack just like the fans did in 2005, the players experience won't matter. Our lads will believe in themselves, their lads will fear us, and we will drown them in the maelstrom that will follow.

We are Liverpool, and for all those who will represent us in the stadium this weekend, do us proud. Roar on the reds and never stop believing, its our job to go help them bring home the cup.

YNWA.

SGRed

1.) 24 May 2018 15:55:00
I bet the players watch that game as prep for the final.
I bet most of the fans as well actually.
Our fans in Kiev will be so numerous and loud it will feel like a home game.


2.) 24 May 2018 16:22:46
I have the road to Istanbul on DVD and you can bet I am watching it Friday night 😂.


3.) 24 May 2018 16:22:49
Liverpool really just have something special about them as a team the supporters, different to any other. That final was the best game i have ever seen!


4.) 24 May 2018 18:24:11
I sure most of the players don't even like the song and hearing that song 100s of times a season must get on their nerves.
Now if the fans are chanting the names of players I can see that giving them a slight boost.


5.) 24 May 2018 19:20:59
I have a football that was made for that final I payed 70 quid for, I looked up on eBay the other day and another ball still boxed like mine is from the final in 05 was going for £700 great final as will this one be.


 

 

02 May 2018 15:25:15
Big match today - but most important lads, stay safe and out of trouble, and sing your hearts out. Good luck Reds.

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24 Apr 2018 16:13:07
Big day lads. up the reds and long live the lion king!

SGRed

1.) 24 Apr 2018 16:21:56
Mufasa or Simba?


2.) 24 Apr 2018 16:50:49
I thought Salah was a Pharaoh?


3.) 24 Apr 2018 17:05:58
Arsene Wenger?


 

 

19 Apr 2018 14:46:46
Here's to Burnley doing us a favour and Liverpool locking in top 4 by the weekend. Would be great to be able to focus on the CL and giving Solanke, Ings, Woodburn, Gomez, Ward etc. chances into end of season.

SGRed

1.) 19 Apr 2018 15:52:42
Lets hope so SGRed.


2.) 19 Apr 2018 19:03:07
Fingers crossed mate.


3.) 19 Apr 2018 20:21:04
Nope haha.


 

 

14 Mar 2018 02:12:16
Does anyone else think Sevilla has some players that would fit perfectly in a Liverpool squad? I particularly like Nzonzi at no.6, think Banega would be very effective in our midfield, and Ben Yedder would be an excellent backup at no.9 and works hard from the front.

SGRed

{Ed0333's Note - I’d take their center back can’t remember his name he has two arms a couple of legs and hair on his head


 

 

 

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19 Jun 2018 15:16:57
We have a world class attack and a decent defence, he will be key to carry the ball in midfield and add a real edge to our threat in possession.

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17 Jun 2018 05:16:41
I’m sure if he doesn’t pull his weight or is disruptive to the dressing room Klopp won’t be standing for it. I think he’s a relatively high risk but also potentially high reward option. If he comes in with the right attitude and works hard he could be a hidden gem as impact player off the bench, but I’d still rather we went for someone like Fekir who can play at 10 or out wide and let Wilson get a chance out wide as cover.

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14 Jun 2018 11:38:12
Tomorrow? It’s on the LFC website Waro. and yes that’s correct. Think it’s a good fixture list IMO.

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08 Jun 2018 19:12:11
We know you’re lying Stevie Wonder.

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07 Jun 2018 03:56:21
I’d rather we got Fekir (who can also cover wide), Alisson and then get someone like Moses Simon who’s young and may improve, and let him and Wilson be the backup options out wide.

We don’t need a Prima Donna like Shaqiri in the dressing room when he’s not good enough to start.

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22 Jun 2018 05:14:16
Modric looking best midfielder of the tournament so far, Croatia could be very dangerous. Very open WC so far, wouldn’t discount England going far if the forwards can click.

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20 Jun 2018 13:38:02
And he’s a jolly nice bloke with lots of talent. Have high hopes for him to get eased in to CB this year and to be a mainstay of the side season after next.

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19 Jun 2018 15:20:01
No, it’s never a good idea to mix your colours and whites in the same wash.

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19 Jun 2018 12:44:53
Firmino, Solanke and Brewster is a bit of risk to have such untested backup strikers on the bench, but I’d be fine with that if we have a top player coming in who can play out wide (eg fekir) as Salah and Mane can also play through the middle if required.

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17 Jun 2018 13:25:01
Is the game recorded and up on YouTube?

SGRed