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24 Oct 2019 08:30:06
I love Hendos energy, but he's not playing as good this season that's clear to see. Has the ox just took his position for now?

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1.) 24 Oct 2019 10:42:36
Ffs 17 wins on the trot and 1 draw and the knives are out, hendo and gini will start against spurs,


2.) 24 Oct 2019 12:11:41
without the knives but don't you think Oxlade earned a starting spot?


3.) 24 Oct 2019 12:19:18
I don't think so yet FC8. It's reassuring to know that Ox and Keita can step in though. It really depends on the opposition and the matchups whether or not Keita or Ox will supplant Gini or Hendo.


4.) 24 Oct 2019 12:41:26
Ox might not be at a stage yet where he can handle a prolonged run of games. He has still only had about 180 minutes or so of competitive football since his injury.

Would much rather see him managed well in terms of recovery and hopefully be a big asset come the turn of the year.

Im sure the medical department already have their plan of how much game time he can take.

He definately does add something different than other players in the current squad. Needs a lot more games under his belt to be fully up to speed though.

Cant see him starting against spurs but id say a start in the arsenal game is nailed on.


5.) 24 Oct 2019 13:11:16
if we want to take another step this year and achieve the ultimate, it's essential that both oxlade-chamberlain and keita step their games up, become regulars in the midfield rotation, and provide a technical advantage that other players can't provide. we'll encounter a lot of different looks and strategies throughout the year, and it's important to have guys in the side that give us versatility to not only answer those challenges, but overcome them and throw things back at other squads that they themselves don't have answers for. ox having a strong game shouldn't lead to the suggestion that it's time for a "slumping" henderson to be replaced by him. we need them both, just as we need all of these guys, to continue to be part of a strong unit that is very difficult to be beaten by any side in the world on any day of the year.


6.) 24 Oct 2019 13:32:59
but how do you keep people happy on the bench if they just stay on the bench even if they perform? also i fail to see how 2 games in a row is a "prolonged run of games"

doing good coming off the bench or when playing with a rotated starting 11 should be rewarded with more gametime imo.

I like both Gini and Hendo but i really hope Ox and Keita gets more real chances, not just when rotating and 10minutes in the end of matches.


7.) 24 Oct 2019 14:02:42
> but how do you keep people happy on the bench if they just stay on the bench even if they perform?
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Because they know its a long season with a lot of games and they will have their chances . Klopp decides which player to use pending fitness and opposition, yesterday Ox did very well because Genk gave him the time and space he needs, which is not easy in the PL, also if you watch back, he hardly pressed, which is needed for our game in the premier league.


8.) 24 Oct 2019 17:19:25
I hope starts to really kick on, he’s the one that gets into positions and receive the ball in offensive areas that are tight. This give us so much more from an attacking perspective.


9.) 24 Oct 2019 18:01:00
Ox that is 😂😂.


10.) 24 Oct 2019 18:44:57
It's not that black and white though. Ox opens our midfield up by being so offensive, whereas Hendo doesn't open up the opposition. catch 22 formation?


11.) 24 Oct 2019 19:04:32
We really have a fascinating fetish for wanting to drop Hendo out of the team. Apart possibly from Matip, I don't think any player's position is talked about as much. Yet he keeps coming back and justifying his place.

That said, Ox deserves to start against Spurs, imo. And I think Klopp subbed him because he wants that option. Had he no intention of starting him against Spurs, he'd have probably left him on for the full 90 against Genk.

I wouldn't start Ox and Keita though, I think it'll leave us too open. Given that Fabinho should be an automatic choice at DM, there's then a space for Gini, Milner or Hendo even with Ox starting. I see merits in picking any of them.


12.) 24 Oct 2019 20:23:50
I think there's an equal argument for Keita to start as much as Ox, if you are going to base an opinion on just the last game against Genk. Keita had more passes, more dribbles and more tackles than anyone else. Yes sure, it was only Genk, but there you go. How can you successfully argue that Ox would be great against Spurs but Keita wouldn't be?

The wise thing is to do what Klopp is doing. Stick with the players that got you to the top level you are at. Tinker from time to time according to the kind of team and style being faced, and make timely substitutions during games to gain what someone on the bench can offer.

I really couldn't care a damn what a player thinks if he's not starting and sitting on the bench. It's a 25 player squad that attacks each game, not just the 11 on the field. The team, and the wins, come first.


13.) 24 Oct 2019 21:15:29
The problem is playing two holding midfielders against the back 5 / 'low-block'. I would have been happy v Utd if the shackles were off Hendo to bomb forward, late runs into the box etc to give an extra attacking option. But he doesn't seem to do that. There's no need to be so defensive against teams that defend. Fabinho can hold his own.


14.) 25 Oct 2019 02:25:00
It's about finding the right balance with consideration for the oppositions style too. Keita and ox certainly add that offensive aggression but they also left our midfield open and back 4 exposed at times. I think gini and fabinho start but I also think much might depend on wether Trent can play or if Gomez slots in to RB. I think klopp would want Henderson on that side if Trent was involved but if Gomez starts maybe OX or keita could get picked as Gomez wouldn't need as much protection with his recovery pace and lack of instruction to get too advanced as Trent does.

Either way it's great to see the depth and variation of klopps midfield options, having 2 or 3 midfielders with the ability to be starters available on the bench can let klopp change the approach hugely if needed in a game.


15.) 25 Oct 2019 10:08:35
Ox will be good for some games, hendo for others . . .


16.) 27 Oct 2019 12:43:46
The ox has definitely given klopp something to think about. It was only genk though. I'd bring him on at 60 minutes. Open the tired defence.


 

 

29 Dec 2018 21:30:39
5:1 against Arsenal. Do you know what's scary. We actually played at about 60%. We've got another gear or two!

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1.) 30 Dec 2018 00:07:46
We got a bit of luck, the bobbled goal came at the perfect time, and very soft pen on Lovren. But if I was an arsenal fan I’d be furious. Koscienly has stolen a living for years now, can’t believe they still play him! He makes Matip look keen. He walks back to the goal after getting beaten. Mustafi is just as bad, I swear he went off ‘injured’ the last time we put a few past them. If it gets tough he gets going. They are awful at the back, other teams just know they can have a go and put them under pressure and they can get something. Hopefully people know see that with city!


2.) 30 Dec 2018 03:33:17
Would ya stop firmane, there was only one team that was going to win when arsenal went one up. Unbelievable performance.


3.) 30 Dec 2018 04:01:09
What a day lads. city next.


 

 

 

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30 Jan 2020 18:43:57
Just seen the new statue of Bob and EH. Absolutely fantastic.

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05 Jan 2020 22:47:40
Get in! Great win for the Reds tonight I thought they were brilliant against Everton first team. I hope Klopp doesn't play Minamino upfront though, and he seems reluctant to play Divok through the middle. For me Minamino should be used in midfield where he ripped us apart at Anfield, that's also where we're low on numbers with Milner now also looking injured.

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1.) 05 Jan 2020 23:03:01
LFC08, Don't know about that regarding playing Minamino in midfield, IMO, I saw some flashes of Bobbie in him in the way he dropped deep to receive the ball and play one-twos with Elliott and Origi. Just my opinion, tho.


2.) 05 Jan 2020 23:05:23
Klopp will want to see where he can use Minamino, I'm sure he'd like him to be able to rotate with any of the front three, we've seen him in other positions more regularly with RB so perhaps him playing up front today was just Klopp getting a look at him up front.

Additionally, I think you could argue being in midfield for this game might be harder a game for your first and playing upfront with support from Origi came with a little less pressure but I couldn't say for sure.


3.) 05 Jan 2020 23:19:45
If only we had a world class manager who knew the best position for his players.


4.) 06 Jan 2020 10:07:44
Lets leave it to Klopp on whatever he wants to do. if he wants to play adrian on the right wing, I trust him and am ok with that too.


5.) 06 Jan 2020 10:10:36
Its great that we have a number of players who can play anywhere along the front 3. To be honest I think Salah will be used more in the middle of the 3 ahead of Origi and Minamino in the future if bobby drops out.


 

 

01 Jan 2020 22:56:51
Can Mbappe play against Sheffield or does he have to wait until Everton?

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1.) 02 Jan 2020 11:11:11
surly we not getting him till the summer ED's? :)


 

 

26 Dec 2019 12:16:07
Well Christmas Day over hope you all had a great time, big big match tonight. I can see this being a very difficult game. Need to take our chances!

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21 Sep 2019 09:16:17
Over the years when we've Loaned out players it's seemed a massive waste of time. But the Harry Wilson moves looks a great one at the moment!

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1.) 21 Sep 2019 12:33:40
It’s seems an interesting one he seems to still be scoring regularly in the prem, however from what I have heard his overall input into the game still needs some work on.

Needs to work harder and no go missing for long periods of the game. Demand the ball, dictate the play.

Anyways well done to the lad!

{Ed001's Note - well done? If he doesn't do more then he doesn't deserve to be congratulated. Laziness should not be celebrated. Playing well below the level you are capable of should not receive applause.}


2.) 21 Sep 2019 20:02:27
Whichever way you look at it, I don't think he's suitable to the way we play and what Klopp wants out of the midfielders. I doubt very much we'll see him in LFC shirt. I think this loan was a pure financial play. Build up the kid some more, hope he does well elsewhere with some key goals, and then ask for the 20 Million next summer when they come calling again.


3.) 21 Sep 2019 21:22:08
I meant for the goal Ed!

{Ed001's Note - I would still not congratulate him, he needs to do more to earn that.}


4.) 21 Sep 2019 23:05:16
Ed001's Note - I would still not congratulate him, he needs to do more to earn that
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You are very harsh, very high standards . feel sorry for your kids (if you have any :)

{Ed001's Note - but he is not one of my kids, he is a professional footballer who is wasting his talent. Hardly high standards to expect him to put in an effort and break sweat on the pitch. You have clearly got ridiculously low standards if you think he is earning the obscene money he gets paid to play a game we would all happily play for free.}


5.) 22 Sep 2019 03:56:02
I think it's telling that he's often subbed off early. The other night Southampton were getting in more and more control after HT and Wilson had to be taken off as he was anonymous in his midfield duties out of possession.

Up until last year his career was predominantly as a star man u23 player but he now needs to show that he can offer more to his team. Technically talented players don't last too long in the starting 11 of premier league teams if they are unable to give more than just moments of class on the ball. The right manager might be able to help him improve in this area of his game, but I'm not so sure Eddie Howe is great in that department.


6.) 22 Sep 2019 09:04:05
To look on the positive side, his output is very good for a guy playing below himself.

But, yes, I am sure Klopp and co are looking for other parts of his game as indicators whether to keep him or not.


7.) 22 Sep 2019 12:47:30
JK23, buddy, want to step outside for a minute so we can discuss your hilarious sense of humour, LOL? Or maybe we can address it in the live chat tonight. 😉.


8.) 22 Sep 2019 14:01:26
What it comes down to is that he is not as talented as Shaqiri and even Xherdan can't get time on the pitch. Wilson will likely come back in to replace Shaq who will want to leave due to lack of game time.


9.) 22 Sep 2019 16:09:19
I was reading a tweet from a Bournemouth supporter who, whilst appreciated his goal return, was quite critical of his work rate.
If he can work hard at Bournemouth then he will never make it into a Klopp first XI.


10.) 22 Sep 2019 16:19:35
I watched the game and he was terrible. If there was a 50/ 50 to go for, he backed away and left it for a team mate every time.

I really hope he notches up plenty of goals this season and his work rate doesn't get highlighted too much in the media, or it will affect his value.

We need to take the highest bid next time anyone wants to sign him permanently.

{Ed001's Note - finally someone sees it!}


 

 

 

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12 Jan 2020 13:15:41
I’ve got a feeling that Traore lad will be a good player. I can’t see Liverpool getting him though when we don’t actually ‘need’ him. Would Cost a lot and they already look like losing Jimenez.

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15 Dec 2019 18:33:45
Sancho would be a massive step down from Salah.

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27 Oct 2019 20:14:08
Mbappe is Done. But I think we might need to sell Sadio Mane if we want Roger Federer.

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03 Oct 2019 16:42:01
Sign that Minamino from the game last night. What a player!

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10 Aug 2019 21:51:36
They are the worst ones, where it looks like he's done f all but goes off injured. Gutted because I'm going Turkey I was confident of smashing Chelsea, have to have a look at them tomorrow against those lot.

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20 Feb 2020 15:23:16
I’d be still in the market for someone who can at least keep Mane and Salah on their toes. Divok miles better through the middle. Mini and Ox are not wide players imo. We need someone with lightning pace who can play either flank and come in naturally so our style doesn’t change. The problem is Mo and Sadio are that good, it’s hardly attractive for a player trying to compete for places vs them 2! Also a back up left back.

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17 Feb 2020 20:39:01
Did Salah win it with Chelsea or what? He would join Milner also.

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17 Feb 2020 12:42:26
We could sign Messi Mbappe Ronaldo and 25year old Pele. But we could only ever be 2 points better off than this current LFC team.

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16 Feb 2020 20:14:56
He’s probably the best prem midfielder I’ve seen since Gerrard. But the way our midfield runs, the lad would be Red as a beetroot after 25 minutes.

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16 Feb 2020 11:35:33
I’d rather not say anything about Naby I’ve nothing positive to say. But what I will add is once again we’ve seen that Ox is no longer a wide man, we needed him in Nabys position shooting from distance in the conditions. Back to normal Tuesday Strongest team available.

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