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16 Aug 2019 11:22:23
Im at work but a mate just told me Adrian is not fit to play on Saturday and our new keep Andy L is going to play instead please tell me he is pulling my leg Ed001.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - I have not heard of any injury to Adrian.}

1.) 16 Aug 2019 11:53:00
He injured his ankle during the after match celebrations, and is indeed a doubt for tomorrow.

2.) 16 Aug 2019 12:33:18
Adrian was injured by a fan who was being chased by security. He slipped and 2 footed Adrian. Doubtful for tomorrow.

Looks like we won't see Keita until after the international break.

{Ed025's Note - typical..

3.) 16 Aug 2019 12:34:05
a fan ran onto the field and hit his ankle while sliding. Video is on the Echo.

4.) 16 Aug 2019 12:43:52
That’s correct, fan ran on and slipped into Adrián. His ankle is swollen, might make it tomorrow.

{Ed025's Note - or...typical liverpool drunken thug flouts security by invading the pitch and injures goalkeeper..

5.) 16 Aug 2019 13:41:28
The fan who ran on and 2 footed him had a Ed025 T shirt on.

{Ed025's Note - not guilty JK....i cant run that far mate..

6.) 16 Aug 2019 14:31:20
You could play in Everton’s midfield then Ed025. They don’t run that far either mate.

{Ed025's Note - your not far wrong there JK..

7.) 16 Aug 2019 18:04:44
Those ed25 fans are a disgrace.

{Ed025's Note - if they thought it was me shents...they might arrest george clooney, im his doppleganger mate.. :)

8.) 16 Aug 2019 18:28:40
It was actually a Southampton fan.

{Ed025's Note - its a wonder that pep has not been cited, he usually gets it in the neck on these pages amerigo..

9.) 16 Aug 2019 18:50:45
Adrian will play with a slight booboo to his ankle no need to panic.



24 Apr 2019 18:19:11
Matip getting a new deal?
that would be a very brave one from Klopp if true.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 24 Apr 2019 19:05:46
I don't see why, honestly don't know why he gets half the stick he does. He's perfect for what he is, a back up centre half to the main pairing which, when Gomez is fit is Joe and Virgil. I also think we as Liverpool fans compare our other centre halves to Van Dijk now which is unfair as he's the best defender i've ever seen in the Premier League. Matip would comfortably get into the likes of Man U's and Arsenals first 11's and he's never kicked off when out of the side. Obviously we'd all like a De Ligt or a Alderweireld buts its very hard and unrealistic to expect to have four world class centre halves at 1 club.

2.) 24 Apr 2019 19:15:23
Not old ”give them a new deal just prior to punting them around” scam?

I like the kid but wouldn't be confident starting a season with him as 3rd choice CB behind JG and VVD.

3.) 24 Apr 2019 19:22:48
agreed little naby. can't have 4 1st choice CBs and Matip has done a job for us no doubt.

4.) 24 Apr 2019 19:32:55
Unnecessary hate, on the verge of trolling. We are on our biggest winning streak since Klopp took over and he’s started every game bar one. The Hendo bashers obviously have a new target. I agree he’s better than any of united and Arsenal’s defenders. Definitely an excellent third choice cb.

5.) 24 Apr 2019 20:02:20
Lerchy, I'm a HUGE Hendo lover and I think Matip is not good enuff for us long term.

6.) 24 Apr 2019 21:29:18
But he hasn’t put a foot wrong since January? Who would you replace him with? Realistically not fm.

7.) 24 Apr 2019 22:06:08
I don’t rate Matip and believe he is someone we can improve upon.

Where are the fantastic centre backs who will be 3rd choice? I doubt they’re out there and it is responsible to protect the squad in this way.

8.) 24 Apr 2019 22:44:11
Well said Ron.

9.) 24 Apr 2019 23:06:46
Matip is 3rd choice at centre half, and yes, he is not good enough for the 1st team, but I am happy enough for him to be a back up,
its Lovren who needs replacing, cos the man just can't stay fit, its a long hard season, and we don't need passengers if we want to stay as a top side,
we def need to keep on adding one or two class players, this will keep us at the top .

10.) 24 Apr 2019 23:12:50
he's perfect for us. unless he wanta to leavto be a regular starter then ok fair enough. but other than that as 3rd or 4th choice, he is experienced and steady enough.

11.) 24 Apr 2019 23:18:01
There are not many great centre backs in football anyway, Joel Matip has been a great back up in my opinion. As Ron said there are no fantastic centre backs happy to be third choice.
Even if Liverpool bought a so called top centre back, where would that leave Gomez.
Matip is not as terrible as he is made out and gets too much stick here. He has definitely made a positive contribution to the team so maybe he deserves a new contract as a backup defender.

12.) 24 Apr 2019 23:39:06
Ron, I rate Matip higher than you do but I agree 100% with the rest of your post. Well said.

13.) 24 Apr 2019 23:58:11
Maybe not longterm Redwolf but even having him as backup allows Jana-Hoever to learn his trade as back up to Trent at rightfull until he moves inside. What does it say to him if we keep buying big names to block his path because this kid could be our very own De Ligt. At the end of the day we have two world class centre halfs and two top end defenders in reserve. Show me a team in this league that's better stocked at centre half.

14.) 25 Apr 2019 01:51:01
Lerchy you say he hasn't put a foot wrong since January? How do you come up with that assessment? He's been exposed in the majority of matches. he so often gets dragged out of position and commits to challenge unnecessary tackles. If he gets a foot in everybody cheers and claps, but most of the time he shouldn't even be putting himself in scenarios,! You don't see virgil sprinting out to wide areas 50 yards from goal with little threat on just to make an unnecessary tackle, he often needlessly risks us being left wide open when he should focus on maintaining shape. You can see VVDs frustration with him many times during games.

15.) 25 Apr 2019 07:50:56
No axe to grind with Matip and believe he's a better backup than Lovren, but I really think Gomez needs to be back in the team asap as I think he'll be a better bet for these last 5/ 6 games we're about to play!

16.) 25 Apr 2019 07:56:02
All these experts who want Matip gone - are you really a better judge of player than Klopp?

17.) 25 Apr 2019 08:06:46
FlashTheRed. Not at all, just stating my personal opinion of him through watching him play. I don't have an axe to grind with him for no reason, he's just the one player who I really don't rate. And your point with klopp has no basis anywat. When all CB were fully fit and available he was the 4th choice clearly.

I just don't rate him personally, and I hate having to criticise any of our boys.

18.) 25 Apr 2019 09:57:43
If Matip is meant to be fourth choice then he is way ahead of Klavan before him, and marginally behind Lovren, if at all.

19.) 25 Apr 2019 10:05:11
Matip was getting brickbats in the first half of the season because he was clearly playing poorly. His second half has been a clear improvement, and as good as the first year he joined. So it's all relative to player form and performance, as it should be.

20.) 25 Apr 2019 13:15:32
I think he's a decent choice for a 3rd or 4th choice defender for Liverpool, but as I keep saying any time this topic arises, our 3rd and 4th choice CBs (in most people's eyes) are earning over £200k a week in total, and that's not sustainable, especially when you consider that big Virg will no doubt be after a rise, and Joe's wages are only going to go up as soon as he cements himself as a first choice.

Fair play to Matip, he's played his part in our fantastic season more than Lovren has, which probably puts him as 3rd choice, it's just the financials that I have an issue with.

21.) 25 Apr 2019 14:07:56
I think right now, going by improvement shown and fitness consistency, I'd be more inclined to let Lovren go and maybe get a younger CB (not world class, but decent) to compete with Matip for 3rd and 4th place.

Joe and Virgil are our clear top pairing. Someone who can compete with Matip (and potentially improve
a little) would be good. Lovren earns a big wage which might be a bit too much now for a 4th choice CB that's injured quite a bit.

I mean, he did well with Croatia and LFC getting to the WC and CL finals, but it might be time for him to move on now for his own good too if he's dropped to 4th choice.

22.) 25 Apr 2019 14:24:24
Matip's done great these past few weeks, Klopp got him for nothing and obviously rates him.

I'd rather we ca$hed in on World Cup Finalist Lovren and spent that money on a tried and tested as backup to Gomez and Matip (if we can find one) or promote one of the yutes. Looks like you can put anyone next to VVD and he'll play well.

Gotta trust in Klopp, Shirley?

23.) 25 Apr 2019 15:06:21
By far the biggest issue I have with Matip is he’s a big lad, very tall, but he seems scared of the ball in the air. He loses far too many challenges in the air but also, if a ball is going over the top, he let's it bounce behind him!
That is the number 1 cardinal sin for a central defender. Never, ever, EVER let the ball bounce behind you! Matip must have missed that basic principle. It’s easily rectified and to be fair it’s a good few months since I’ve seen him do it, but it used to happen almost every game.
Other than that infuriating trait, he’s as good a back up as we’ve had for a while and it makes sense to keep him around 👍.

24.) 25 Apr 2019 17:31:41
Look im not a big fan of matip personally, but he's wearing our red liverbird upon his chest and I'l always support and back him when he does so and he does try his best but his ability is limited and it frustrates me that some overlook his match performances as a whole. He's a very weak link and has got away with a lot of incidents which could easily have had many fans calling for his head.

I know this is ifs and buts. but in about 4 weeks there were 4 clear incidents which he was very fortunate to get away with. Against United the offside flag saved his blushes as he swiped a clearance with his wrong leg into our goal. It was correctly offside but matip didn't know that and defended the situation poorly.
In the same week he attempted the exact same clearance with his wrong leg against bayern. The ball hit Allison's chest fortunately, no one spoke of this ever again, he was at fault vs Southampton goal then.
Against spurs his rash decision to lunge desperately at Kane on halfway line directly led to sissoko going 1v1. If he slots that in which he should then the title dream was probably vanished then.

Now I'm not bashing the guy completely I'm just pointing out moments which could have cost us dearly, they haven't though so he's been excused from criticism. He has performed slightly better lately but is always vulnerable in any moment. It's also clear to see how Trent has struggled much more with matip beside him. I know it's all ifs and buts. but he does make many errors which go unnoticed by many. If we win silverware this season he's earned his medals and has played his part but if we want a CB who may need to slot in for months at a time in the future then I feel matip needs upgrading. Feels harsh saying this as we're in a purple patch but the fact remains he is 8 or 9 times out of ten our weakest performer and most vulnerable.

Just clarifying I'm not bashing the fella, he's just not the standard of defender we should settle for as competition in a world class defence.

25.) 25 Apr 2019 17:21:43
Isn't it time Masterson stepped up 20yrs old now.

Oh and don't call me Shirley.

Was that airplane or naked gun?

26.) 25 Apr 2019 17:26:26
This move surprised me, because I expected Lovren to be cover to Virgil and Gomez next season. I'm fine with Matip though. Like a backup QB in the NFL, the plan isn't to go into the season with him as your primary option, but you also don't want your season derailed because he has to play for a stretch of games because someone is injured. I like Lovren more, but it may be a better use of resources to sell Lovren (and his contract) and go with Matip. Lovren is too good to sit in long stretches too, so maybe it's just time to move on so he can go get more playing time elsewhere.

27.) 25 Apr 2019 18:29:18
He hasn't been offered a contract yet and there has just been a mention of talks opening. He may well have the ambition to ask for playing guarantees (a beast that the Eds have said is a key element of a players contract nowadays) and I can't imagine a huge financial increase so he may look for sureties elsewhere and turn down a bit part role.

28.) 25 Apr 2019 23:33:00
If im not mistaken we have conceded just 20 Goals this season, less than any other team in the PL. Some of you need to get a grip. Matip has been a part of that and if you look at the stats when he has played I think you will all find that he is a valuable member of the squad not on a huge wage either and bought for peanuts. As a player that will never be first choice he is more valuable than you think.

29.) 26 Apr 2019 13:23:25
I'm pretty sure he is on a huge wage.

30.) 26 Apr 2019 13:31:03
I doubt any of our centre backs will look to leave this summer, realistically its their best chance of a prem title, assuming we don't win it this year.

31.) 26 Apr 2019 18:19:17
I'd assume the contract talks will involve a pay cut. You have to remember that he's on higher wages than normal due to him being signed on a free.



06 Aug 2018 13:25:08
Just wanted to know if any of the eds had the latest info regarding clyne
Surely he can't be staying here for another season but if he is I will support him as per usual but really hope he gets a move somewhere else as he really hurts us attacking wise when he plays.
Decent enough player but I think our style of play and tactics don't suit his strengths.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - there has been little interest in him due to his injuries last season.}

1.) 06 Aug 2018 13:49:23
A bit late now to get a good right back in, I don't see him going anywhere. As poor as he is offensively, he's pretty good defensively and we need that more than his attacking attributes.

2.) 06 Aug 2018 14:19:37
personally I see Clyne as 2nd choice RB this season with Gomez being an option for CB. Matip will likely spend a lot of time injured so I reckon they'll be enough games for Gomez at CB and Clyne is decent enough to play a few cup games at RB.

3.) 06 Aug 2018 18:28:19
I agree, I don’t think he’s that bad as a second choice, as long as his hearts in it. Worst comes to worst and he plays a few games, he’s experienced and hopefully can hold his own defencively.

4.) 06 Aug 2018 19:23:37
There's been nothing wrong with him defensively so far, just his fitness. If is heart isn't in it, he won't get game time. Simple as.

5.) 06 Aug 2018 21:40:34
I don’t think he’s good enough as a back up RB, Trent is still young and will need to be rested now and again, that means your going to need to have to rely on Clyne for several games a season, I don’t think I have ever seen him have a good game for us, he would be the weak link and opponents will exploit that.

6.) 06 Aug 2018 22:24:14
Exactly mikey, he's not good enough for this level of football, or even close imo. Defensively he is terrible, Trent is a young lad and is already 10 x the player Clyne is. I'd put Fabinho, Milner or Gomex before Clyne.

7.) 06 Aug 2018 22:34:03
To say Clyne has never had a good game for us is rubbish. Yes there are better attacking full backs out there but I believe he has a big part to play this season. Trent has made the position his own but there
Aren’t many right backs out there better as a back up.

If u think there are then name them. The likes of Walker and Valencia are hugely overrated. Azpilaqeta (excuse spelling) is prob the best about but no chance of getting him.

At the end of the day we need squad players as well as starters to be successful, they can’t all be world beaters.

8.) 06 Aug 2018 23:21:37
You can easily name several better right backs from Liverpool alone.

9.) 07 Aug 2018 06:04:49
I like Clyne. Between him and Trent we have RB sorted.

10.) 07 Aug 2018 06:45:53
Go ahead then Mikey. and remember, Fabinio wAs bought as a midfielder, Milner has proven himself in midfield and only played left back for one season due to necessity.

TAA and Gomez who will spend more time at centre back this year.


11.) 07 Aug 2018 07:34:27
if Clyne plays a bad game, we’ll just have to score more goals 🤔.

12.) 07 Aug 2018 08:11:14
How long has Clyne been here now? And Klopp too?
If Klopp thought Clyne wasn't up to the job, he'd be gone.
Ask Balotelli.

13.) 07 Aug 2018 08:21:45
Problem is FTR who would want Clyne? that's why we're stuck with him mate lol.

14.) 07 Aug 2018 10:09:12
Try saying we're stuck with him if Trent Arnold gets injured or suspended.

15.) 07 Aug 2018 11:39:13
I will do mate because he still won't get a game, Milner or Gomez will be before him maybe even Fabinho.

16.) 07 Aug 2018 12:56:44
Don't see that happening at all. Clyne still has a role to play this season, he'll play more at right back than any other player except TTA. Providing he's not injured of course.

17.) 08 Aug 2018 04:13:00
Clyne and Camacho have played at RB. I don't think the other players will play there. Gomez hasn't been used much there lately so I think Klopp has moved him to his favoured CB position.

TAA and Clyne as second choice. That's the RB position for this season in my view according to preseason. Klopp has been playing everyone where he'll use them during the season I believe.



27 Jun 2018 17:35:52
Bobby Duncan signed for 200k
Gerrards cousin I think.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 27 Jun 2018 18:08:29
Welcome to Liverpool lad. Anybody actually seen him play, if so any good?

2.) 27 Jun 2018 18:14:39
He's 17.

3.) 27 Jun 2018 20:57:57
Only seen highlights of one game against Liverpools kids, Salah. He scored but it was as much bad goal keeping as a great finish. Don't remember anything else as it was over a year ago.

4.) 27 Jun 2018 21:14:50
Did he play for man city.

5.) 27 Jun 2018 21:23:13
Remember the last left footed striker from Liverpool a one Robbie Fowler a. k. a god, step forward bobby Duncan maybe an omen, I hope so!

6.) 27 Jun 2018 21:28:33
Folks calm down he's 17.

7.) 27 Jun 2018 22:23:47
Hahahaha I am just playing he is a kid with a lot too prove and his whole career in front of him, you don't get called god for nothing and Fowler stepped immediately up too the plate, if the talent is there lucky us and hopefully he fulfills his potential.

8.) 28 Jun 2018 11:58:49
He’s got big boots to fill for being the next bobby in Liverpool.

9.) 28 Jun 2018 16:17:09
Only English player to score a hat trick against Brazil at any level. At U17 level I believe.

10.) 28 Jun 2018 16:32:42
Bobby played in the same school team as my lad. He’s a fantastic finisher, who can score any type of goal.

Saw him last year or so for City against Cackpool (Blackpool) and he’s motivated solely by scoring goals, which is an obvious must for a striker!

Reminds me a little of Aguero, similar stature, huge thighs and truly deadly if you give him a chance!

Going forward, I don’t know if he suits our current way of playing, but I guess it’s up to him.

Hope he forces his way through!

11.) 28 Jun 2018 18:06:05
We should have signed Ricky Bobby instead

‘If you ain’t first, you’re last! ’.

12.) 30 Jun 2018 14:06:10
“Bobby Duncan signed for 200k
Gerrards cousin I think”

Seems consistent. They both went for 2 first names instead of a proper surname 🙄.



28 May 2018 23:30:41
I know we have been linked very hard with Fekir but a little birdy tells me it is Malcolm we really want
not sure how this will turn out but it is malcolm more then Fekir according to the little birdy
just passing it on lads.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed0333's Note - over to Ed’s 002

1.) 28 May 2018 23:42:04
Malcolm is a talented player.

2.) 29 May 2018 03:45:08
Malcom is a winger, Fekir a CAM. It will be both if Malcom is the winger Klopp wants, not one of the two.
The UCl final was a clear indication we need another wide player in case Salah or Mane cannot play and Fekir is a CAM that will bring more creativity to our workmanlike midfield.
Fabinho, Keita and Fekir! BOOM! Bet Harry will be the happiest LFC fan alive if that happens.

3.) 29 May 2018 05:34:27
Wait so what's going to happen to Hender (backpass) en, Mil (not that boring) ner and Gini?

4.) 29 May 2018 06:12:07
Regardless if any wife player coming in, if Fekir does come it would signal to me Klopp switching to a very attacking 4231 starting formation next year, with Fekir behind Bobby. This would leave Fabinho, Hendo, Wiji, Milner, Ox, Lallana and Keita vying for the remaining midfield positions, although Ox and Lallana could be cover/ rotation for Fekir I suppose. All opinion and guess work of course, but if true I would imagine at least 2 will leave.

5.) 29 May 2018 06:55:42
I hope we haven’t resorted to signing wives now 😲.

6.) 29 May 2018 07:20:45
I'd prefer to see Malcolm in the Middle :)

{Ed025's Note - love it burkey..

7.) 29 May 2018 08:00:14
Speaking of wives. turns out, Fabinho's wife was the only ITK posting hints of their future over the weekend. There's a picture of her supporting Liverpool on Saturday night, doing the rounds ;)

8.) 29 May 2018 08:49:10
Thanks for the info Johncrow.

9.) 29 May 2018 09:18:50
you welcome Salah mate
it may turn out to be crap but thought I would share
albeit now Lemar seems to have come back into the frame as well according to Lequipe
So my little birdy looks like he may have given me duff info lol.

10.) 29 May 2018 12:50:19
Well for now we know we are looking for a coutinho replacement (Fekir, Lemar), cover wide (Dembele, Malcom, Lemar, Pulisic), Goalkeeper Cover (Navas, Butland) or First choice (Alisson) and Centerbacks cover (Tarkowski) .




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16 Feb 2020 11:16:57
If klopp wins the title with Liverpool and I'm still not hatching my eggs yet until mathematically impossible to be caught
Would he be the first foreign manager to win the premier league and champions league in with a English team?

Johncrow Junior

1.) 16 Feb 2020 11:59:08
The only manager to achieve the feat of winning both with the same club is I think Sir Alex so he would be the first non British manager yes.

2.) 16 Feb 2020 12:01:06
Technically Alex Ferguson was the first foreign manager to win EPL and CL with an English team but yes other than him it will be Klopp.

3.) 16 Feb 2020 12:12:00
OP, I think Klopp could be cos Pep and Mou never did that.

{Ed002's Note - Ferguson.}

4.) 16 Feb 2020 13:16:25
Sorry non British
I meant lads.

5.) 16 Feb 2020 13:17:32
Other then Ferguson no else has achieved this
Then I’m astounded.

6.) 16 Feb 2020 13:56:38
Shocked I always thought Scotland was in Britain .

7.) 16 Feb 2020 15:01:29
It shows how hard the European Cup is to win. Someone wins the league every year. Coz we are starved for the league title it's made us think the cl isn't as big but it's much bigger. That was amazing last year and we made the final the year before. Its astounding really.

8.) 16 Feb 2020 17:24:33
Scotland is a separate country when it comes to football.

9.) 16 Feb 2020 19:44:59
I think technically rafa has won the cl and prem with an English team, just different English teams. Did he and Chelsea not win the league, and of course won the champions league with us.

A good pub quiz question in 30 years would be - who has won the championship and champions league. Maybe a bit obvious. Did klopp win the German 2nd tier with mainz and then champions league?

{Ed001's Note - Rafa won the UEFA Cup with Chelsea I think, not the Prem.}

10.) 16 Feb 2020 20:51:47
Ah okay ed01, I'm getting my Chelsea managers mixed up. Was it avram grant that won the prem with Jose's Chelsea then? Or did he win the Champions league?

{Ed001's Note - Di Matteo won the Champions League. I don't remember Grant winning anything but that could be my memory.}

11.) 16 Feb 2020 21:24:12
Di matteo, that's it. Cheers ed01.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

12.) 17 Feb 2020 05:57:10
Chelsea managers to win the prem are Mourinho, Ancheloti and Conte.



09 Feb 2020 11:11:11
I know there is always talk about players we missed out on but can any Ed if they are not busy explain to me the real reason we never signed anelka after his loan
As for me the boy was world class
Or very close to it for a very long time.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - because he questioned Houllier and had his own thoughts.}

1.) 09 Feb 2020 12:26:03
I forgot about anelka. Yeah he was class wasn't he. Dangerous player. Never got on with his team mates did he?

{Ed001's Note - of course he did. Nic was a really nice guy and very well liked.}

2.) 09 Feb 2020 12:54:43
If that is the reason Ed and I’m not doubting you at all that is pathetic
I read a lot about houllier and the more I hear the less I like.

{Ed001's Note - he just liked to be in complete control of everything. Even when he was in hospital he wouldn't relinquish the reins. Tommo was given instructions to follow.}

3.) 09 Feb 2020 13:05:57
Did Houllier fall out with every player at the club apart from Gerrard and Carra?

{Ed001's Note - he was just very controlling. Everything had to be exactly his way. He was an old school manager, a dictator. I am sure he fell out with everyone at times because of that, but I am equally sure that most people he is on friendly terms with now. Ged isn't a bad guy or anything, he was just an autocrat. He was in charge and everything was done his way because he believed that was the best way for it to be done. So when someone like Anelka sits there and makes a suggestion for a different way to do something, he doesn't want to listen because Ged believed his way was the right way.}

4.) 09 Feb 2020 13:37:29
Talking to fellow reds fans Ed he is never spoken about Like Evans or Rafa almost like he isn’t liked as much but his achievements as manager imo deserved respect.

{Ed001's Note - the style of play was horrible though, like Souness it was not a good time to be watching the game. It was like watching Palace under Hodgson, or a Pulis team. The results might be worth watching but the actual football was awful to watch.}

5.) 09 Feb 2020 14:02:18
Anelka was definitely one that got away. There must be loads over the past 30 years that have stopped us winning more titles. Kompany was talked about for years as was Aguero.

6.) 09 Feb 2020 15:43:23
Johncrow, the issue I have with him is apart from the treble season, which should've been the starting point for a regime that could mount an assault on the league or CL, instead of it's zenith, we actually weren't any better during his tenure than before.

Apart from one season our league form was worse than under Evans, but the extension of the Champions League turned 3rd place into something acceptable whereas previously it had been cause to edge the manager out the door.

Basically, after 5 years of him in charge, we weren't any better off and had seen an entire team gutted and replace with a Sam Allardyce style hoofball side. Not worth it.

7.) 09 Feb 2020 15:49:19
@ mark - I think Evans said he tried to get Desailly in the 90s before he went to Chelsea. Might have made a difference to our leaky defence. He also said he tried to get Reidle earlier than we ultimately did.

Souness tried to sign Tim Flowers in 1993. Not world class, but he was decent enough if I remember and considerably more predictable than James. May have made a difference during the mid 90s.

8.) 11 Feb 2020 07:23:38
C. Ronaldo was one we were allegedly close to though Parry, the bellend, refused to ratify it. There were a lot of deals he torpedoed, Silva, Villa, and Dani Alves are a few that spring to mind. I'm sure there are more.



08 Feb 2020 18:32:23
Emre can take a bow son what a goal
I would say that one beats the bicycle kick at QPR
Hope it goes well for him at Dortmund always liked him as a player.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 08 Feb 2020 18:47:18
Sebastian Coates scored the bicycle kick at QPR. Can got his vs Watford mate.

2.) 08 Feb 2020 19:39:11
Me too Johncrow. And I think he'd be good in this team. I imagine he would've improved like every player klopp works with. Scored a few worldies eh.

3.) 08 Feb 2020 20:19:04
I liked Can but he is just too slow. Klopp may have improved him but still think Fabinho is way better.

4.) 08 Feb 2020 21:28:22
Err Robbie, Can WAS in this team and was deemed not good enuf (hence, could not improve us, per klopp) to command the wages and game time guarantees he was looking for so Klopp let him go.

With that in mind, how can you say he would have improved like any other player under Klopp (which he didn't hence, he got let go) for this team whereas he WAS part of this team and got let go cos he could not hack it in a Klopp system? Those two things simply cannot be correct at the same time, IMO. Please, explain. Peace and Love.

5.) 08 Feb 2020 22:03:28
Klopp did not let Can go. Can ran down his contract. I'm pretty certain Klopp wanted to keep Can.

6.) 09 Feb 2020 00:22:59
I know Klopp wanted to keep him, but I always felt that Can's problem was he wasn't good enough at any one part of his game to nail down one position in the team.

He's a big lad who can put in a tackle, but he doesn't read the game well enough to be the DM, so Klopp used Henderson there instead. Technically quite decent, has played some tasty passes in his time, but not on a consistent basis. So he couldn't be relied on to link the midfield to the front three. Klopp preferred Lallana and later Ox in that role instead. Could've been the box to box man instead of Gini, I suppose, but whilst he lacks Can's physicality, Gini's much better in tight spaces and when being pressured.

So he was always going float from role to role in our midfield as other players needed to be rested. If he'd still been here when Fabs arrived, which in turn gave us more options with Hendo, I think he'd have dropped out of regular contention anyway.

7.) 09 Feb 2020 08:17:27
I still think he was player who could play anywhere but not a starter at any position. He was probably the best cover player money can buy. Rb cb dm mid am.
But he is not a starter in any top team. That's the problem.

8.) 09 Feb 2020 10:52:03
For me it was Can’s consistency. He has the talent for sure but he couldn’t maintain top level every game.

9.) 09 Feb 2020 11:02:56
Yeah Irish said it. Can ran his contract down and back then we were top 4 hopefuls, not world champs. I prefer hendo, gini and fab but he was decent. He would have got better with us.

10.) 09 Feb 2020 12:25:38
Can also had a very good run in the team when Hendo was injured and acquitted himself very well playing at a very good level getting us a top 4 spot if my memory is correct.

Saying that, I sort of agree that he didn't really have a definite position in the team, sometimes even filling in a right back and centre back as well.



02 Feb 2020 09:13:31
I know people joke about mbappe coming but for me his attitude is starting to really stink twice now he has shown blatant disrespect for his teammates and manager
I would prefer we sign someone who doesn't think he is the next pele at 22 years of age
I'm hoping sancho or dembele signs instead. Players who I'm sure klopp would mate ten times better.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed047's Note - why do you think Klopp would mate the other two better than he would Mbappe, it’s a little weird you’re even thinking about that kind of thing! 😉🤪🤣

1.) 02 Feb 2020 09:46:06
If we mate Mbappe with Sancho. Wow what a player we’d have on our hands in 18 years. It is just like Klopp though, always planning for the future 🤣.

2.) 02 Feb 2020 10:05:03
Lol got me lads typo
I meant make but you got me smiling so well played.

{Ed047's Note - sorry John, just made me smile too.

3.) 02 Feb 2020 10:09:57
First of all, Dembele’s attitude absolutely stinks.

Second of all, Mbappe is head and shoulders going to be the best player in the world in the next few years. No one is even close to him in that age category.

Thirdly, we won’t be signing of them 😅.

4.) 02 Feb 2020 10:10:38
Dembele over Mbappe based on attitude sounds a bit dodgy .

5.) 02 Feb 2020 11:35:33
Um lads I remember more than one poster on here and Ed as well saying mane had a questionable attitude and it was proven to be rubbish
Don’t believe everything you read or hear in the broadsheets.

{Ed001's Note - it wasn't proven to be rubbish, he had issues with his previous clubs, even going on strike twice. Why talk such crap? If you want to slag us off, at least be honest. This is why I barely bother any more, always some dick throwing anything back in our face, without bothering to check their facts.}

6.) 02 Feb 2020 13:11:45
I’d agree Van Dijk too, the most irreplaceable member of the team.

7.) 02 Feb 2020 13:26:01
That was a Freudian slip there Ed001, after your criticism 😃
Should have gone on the thread below.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha easy done mate.}

8.) 02 Feb 2020 17:30:22
I’m a dick bcoz your habit of saying certain people have attitudes was proven to be wrong
If your conscience is bothering you then all good mate
I’m happy to be a dick
I won’t resort to insulting you and you should know Adam L went on strike before he moved to us but his attitude is brilliant in your opinion I guess
Ah well mate we agree to disagree
Dick signing off take care.

{Ed001's Note - have I ever said his attitude is brilliant? More bull from you. I have not been proven to be wrong, you clearly lack the intelligence to understand how offensive your post is. You are accusing me of lying but have not brought any evidence to prove it. Nothing at all. So you are being a dick and I would thank you for not acting that way and apologising for what you said. You might be happy to be a dick, but I don't want a dick like you making up bull about me, so give it a rest.

And there is no agreeing to disagree, you are wrong and you need to step back and man up to your error.}

9.) 02 Feb 2020 17:50:56
I’m too old to resort to insulting text on a site mate
I apologise for putting words in your mouth for that I’m wrong and am mature enough to admit that
I honestly feel Mané gets a raw deal form a lot of people
He indeed went on strike but many footballers have to get a move which is not right
But if you speak to the locals and people who know him you will see a beautiful person who is humble and doesn’t act like a protein with the wealth he has
I would hope you man enough to apologise for calling me a dick
Especially after I didn’t insult you or even attempt to
In life mate I have learnt to express myself when angry without looking like a Friday night lout at a bar
No need for it mate your better then that hopefully.

{Ed001's Note - I have never said he is not a lovely bloke, in fact quite the opposite. I love Mane and I said at the time I thought he was a brilliant player and could be great, but that it is something to bear in mind.

You did insult me, you may not have meant to but you did insult me, you insinuated I had lied about Mane. I didn't. So that was an insult. I do apologise for calling you a dick, that was uncalled for, you are right. So I am sorry for that. However you have to remember you are only seeing the posts we allow, and not the posts we have to delete because they are abusive, make up lies or accusations about things we have not done. Or are just downright nasty. Sometimes it just gets to you and you bite. So I am sorry that you got the reaction you did, as it was uncalled for and not really aimed at you anyway. It was more of a general letting off of steam.}

10.) 02 Feb 2020 18:10:03
Ed001 I love you and the site mate
Sorry for any issue called
I’m not a trouble maker and hope we can move on and be cool
I respect you mate and you know that.

{Ed001's Note - I know mate, it's not your fault. It is just a misunderstanding at a bad moment and I reacted badly sorry.}



14 Dec 2019 15:01:12
Always looking at positives
if gini is out for a little spell like lovren and matip then maybe it gives them a chance to rest and come back mid jan ready for the reminder of the season
Also now hopefully ox, gomez get a good run of games and keita as well
maybe we get to see a little more of the young dutch centre back as well alongside virgil in one game who knows
but when the others come back we will have fresh players raring to go for the remainder of the season
I not to down tbh as our squad and the kids we have give me hope.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 14 Dec 2019 15:10:37
He's a great player but we have the squad to deal with an injury in midfield.

2.) 14 Dec 2019 17:10:37
10 point gap. That's 10 positives for me.




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12 Dec 2019 08:54:50
You have seen only two games and think he would be good back up
that is some real dangerous scouting there mate lol
tbh he looks good but players often raise their game when playing a big team so to speak and so be careful after two games wanting to sign someone.

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23 Apr 2019 19:17:20
Mate we cannot on a open forum be in fear of posting where there has not been any insults towards an ed or disrespect
im sure ED002 is not so bothered that he would take offence at anything written above.

Johncrow Junior

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23 Apr 2019 19:10:53
I will stop as the point im making seems to be lost in you trying to go a different path
chelsea are no saints when signing players klopp tells lies according to you and we have to accept that
thank you for all your info mate much appreicated.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - You have not actually said what Chelsea has done wrong - you just seem intent on deflecting away from the Liverpool coach.}



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23 Apr 2019 19:01:27
nothing to do with Chelsea you highighted one liverpool player I highlighted 43 chelsea players
im sure a few of them were made promises about first team chances
and wp were obtained by saying they would play and were players who would not be loaned out but given first team chances
You always seem to make comments about liverpool which we all appreciate
I made one about Chelsea with no harm intended.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - I didn't raise the issue, one of the supporters did. There is no issue with Chelsea having players on loan. They have not been lied to - you are just embarrassing everyone trying to make it about someone else.}



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23 Apr 2019 18:54:37
Klopp is what klopp is not defending him just sayinh
but how many players do Chelsea have out on loan
last count it was something like 43 or maybe even higher
they have a nigerian left back who has been out on loan something like 5 seasons in a row
surely this is worse then what is happening with Grujic.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what any of this has to do with Chelsea. You certainly know how to embarras yourselves. And I am pretty sure that Chelsea don't have a liar and a cheat as a coach.}




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20 Feb 2020 10:05:56
For one outside of football he is not a decent person mate that is the truth
But inside football circles managing Liverpool should never be a given bcoz you once played for us.
Only the best of the best or at least potentially should make it to the interview stage
I want managers who will take us forward with ways and means that if possible better what klopp has down and is doing and sadly for me that isn’t Gerrard.

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20 Feb 2020 07:52:49
Hopefully all this will talk about Gerrard being the next boss will stop
I hope to never see that fella as boss
Just my opinion lads
The next boss of Liverpool I hope is now managing Werner and will do so at Liverpool again in the future.

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19 Feb 2020 10:43:59
For games like these you need the little gem in midfield who can pick a pass through the eye of a needle
Step forward Keita for the second leg.

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19 Feb 2020 10:42:50
I can to disagree more with the above comment respect but have to disagree I have never ever heard any manager or player accuse a klopp managed team to resort to the antics we saw yesterday from Madrid and nope we lost bcoz we lost not bcoz of antics.

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18 Feb 2020 14:44:25
Sorry but I’m not having Roy Keane was world class no way at all.

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