Liverpool Banter Archive January 12 2018

12 Jan 2018 23:43:46
Aside from the utter chaos that has gone down on this site after Macca's mischievous hints 😂 I thought I'd continue my list of plauers that genrally avoid media spotlight and I feel are talented players. Note: This is not a direct list of players that I feel we should sign nor am I saying we are interested in them.

Daniel Wass, Celta Vigo (CM)
Andrea Consigli, Sassuolo (GK)
Houssem Aouar, Lyon (CM) Very promising young player.
Alfred Finnbogason, Augsburg (ST) Having a brill season in Germany.
Giuliano, Fernabache (CAM)
Lucas Torreira, Sampdoria (CM)
Pablo Maffeo, Girona (on loan from City) (RB)
David Neres, Ajax (RW)
Alvaro Odriozola, Sociedad (RB)
Mo Elyounoussi, Basel (RW)
Salif Sane, Hannover (CB)
Jacub Jankto, Udinese (CM)

Please comment and share your ideas about those that have daughter my eye, it would be much appreciated!

13 Jan 2018 00:21:43
Do you watch lots of football or read about these players? There is quite a varied selection. I've heard of very few of these guys. If you watch all this lot, there's quite a lot of commitment there!

13 Jan 2018 03:26:08
He said it was a top top player that we hadn’t been linked with and we would be pleased if we got him. I don’t think a bunch of talented players, most of which need to be googled fall into that bracket. appreciate the effort you made in writing the list though, I’ll look a few up!

13 Jan 2018 12:22:26
I think it is unrealistic to believe that Antoine Griezmann would come to Liverpool. His agent may have been approached as I would expect, but it is a distant hope he may be interested. This is likely the player Macca had in mind. More realistic is Thomas Lemar, but that wouldn't be easy either. Although if Lemar came, Griezmann's attitude might change. I still don't understand why Macca hinted at such an outside choice?
Mahrez really wants to go to Arsenal. The other names mentioned are definitely maybe.
I would still like a top class keeper and a couple of bargains nobody has thought about. There is still to the end of January.
Fingers crossed!

13 Jan 2018 15:01:45
Did you even read the post yuri? A top top player we hadn’t been linked with- that rules out Lemar as he’s been linked since last year. It’s Griezmann or Fekir.

13 Jan 2018 16:14:25
The above list has got nothing to do with Maccas info that we are interested in a french international. As I clearly state in the post it is simply a fun list of players who people may not have heard a lot about, but I feel are good players and are performing well at the moment.

12 Jan 2018 23:03:28
Ed002. understand all the nonsense with nabby and how things look But didn’t he stay behind during the Xmas break when everyone else were off on holiday and train on his own?

{Ed002's Note - I don’t know what Nobby did over Christmas but the club is overrun with off field grief still and won’t want more.}

12 Jan 2018 23:23:31
So ed are u saying by letting naby go this would get rid of the grief.

{Ed002's Note - If you are RBL.}

12 Jan 2018 23:32:36
While we are talking to Red bull leipzig is there any chance of talking about Werner too.

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn’t think so.}

13 Jan 2018 00:13:59
Can people stop worrying abt Keita's antics? This is the norm these days when players want to leave for a bigger club. Our own Phil did worse refusing to play and faking injuries (the worse of all for me) .

And abt the fee paid for him, can we please let the club's financial department deal with it? The club's being managed by the FSG group who are far more competent than all of us. We r paying his market value as Barça paid for Phil. I'm sure some Barça fans and "pundits" are thinking they overpaid but certain LFC fans think we could have get more for him. So you always have to see both ways coz I'm sure Leipzig fans would have prefferred to keep Keita instead of selling him for £50 mil + addons. And don't forget that we did bid higher for him in the summer. So, even if we have to pay another £15m for him to get him now, I will as he can help us play better, have more success and earn more.

If u still can't feel the peace of mind then a little reminder might help :

LUKAKU : the manc paid £75m
Morata : plastic bags paid £58m
Sigurdsson : the bitters paid £45m
Bolasie : the bitters paid £29m 18 months ago

Keita is 5 times the player compared to those average ones.

13 Jan 2018 00:01:51
So ed would you give nobby a miss if you were in charge of transfers for Liverpool would live you're in insight.

{Ed002's Note - Nobby has shown himself to be immature and unprofessional. His English is poor and he has had both on field and off field issues so I would not have gone near him at the fee that Liverpool will eventually pay. At a lower fee and if he were to settle, then fine.}

13 Jan 2018 15:09:20
May be u r right Ed2 but don't u think it depends sometimes on the circumstances the player's in? I mean Pipco was also immature, unprofessional since this summer yet he was considerred an angel before and his english is still poor.

We also overpayed for Firmino but. now it. feels like a bargain as his resale value (if we do agree to sell him at some point) will easily surpass 150mil in the future (2/ 3 years time) . The value for me always depends on the need of certain plauers in our system.

Don't take. me. wrong Ed as I think we overpayed for many players in the past that doesn't fit in to our system and that I accept the fact that our scouting department do need upgrading as it would have been better to spot talents like Keita, Kante, Mane. earlier.

The one thing I would like to point out is when a player has a certain release clause for german clubs say 10million but we end up buying him for 15million doesn't mean that we overpaid for the players as the release clause was only for german clubs and we r not a German club. It's just that the club feels that player might choose Bayern ahead of us so we act ASAP.

12 Jan 2018 22:20:46
All,

This isn't Liverpool related but a big congratulations to Ann-Katrin Berger after a successful operation in her battle against cancer! She is said to be back in between the sticks later this season now.

12 Jan 2018 22:18:58
Hi Ed002

I have a question for you sir

Transfer fees and money in general in football has gone crazy and I often wonder where this is all going to end

Are fees just going to keep rising? Will it all ev3ntually implode on itself? Will we see smaller clubs priced out the game all together?


Love to know your thoughts

Thanks to all the eds and macca for there hard work.

{Ed002's Note - I answered this yesterday but only a few transfers are out of hand with the majority of clubs carrrying on with business as usual. Clubs across Europe are aware of the additional income English sides have from the TV deal. They are happy to take it off the sides desperate to spend.}

12 Jan 2018 22:25:41
Fantasy or fiction I think nabbing Naby Katy Keita and Alexis Sanchez in this window would be great. Icing on the cake would be a goalie.

12 Jan 2018 22:40:04
Surely we'd need to get rid of 1/ 4 of our current goalkeepers before bringing one in? or even 2.

12 Jan 2018 22:45:40
Probably 3 to be honest.

12 Jan 2018 21:57:55
So naby will be a red by sunday.

{Ed002's Note - Will Liverpool manage to keep the fee below €100M?}

12 Jan 2018 22:04:01
It's interesting when you say it like that Ed002. What else can I say? €100 M for Naby Keita?

{Ed002's Note - Nobby Keita. Obvious plus about 15%.}

12 Jan 2018 22:06:32
Oh blooming heck, don't talk money Ed. That's a depressing figure if true.

12 Jan 2018 22:07:19
Can you confirm this Ed?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

12 Jan 2018 22:07:21
buy to loan backs never seem to work. i remember origi being ridiculed all season long when we signed him and sent him back on loan.
Now nabys just getting abused my plastics every week, i hope we vere away from these sort of deals in future.
I do think though ed, from what i've seen, its still a fair price for him in todays market, and i disagree we have overpaid. really is a wonderful player from what i've seen this season.

12 Jan 2018 22:16:14
One more beer over here please.

12 Jan 2018 22:16:57
Jesus ed is that what its going to take . Would rather we wait until the summer. Massive figures to get him here for a dozen games or so. Madness.

12 Jan 2018 22:27:10
You guys are so gullible.

12 Jan 2018 22:19:07
Twitter. So I would take no notice.

12 Jan 2018 22:19:07
Twitter. So I would take no notice.

12 Jan 2018 23:17:42
Just did some rough maths, if your figures are correct we are already paying circa €75 mil in the summer absolute crazy money. I guess after him and VVD there can't be an awful lot of money to do much more and they must have been done with Coutinhos departure in mind.

13 Jan 2018 01:40:39
The best way to cope with this is to just take a large sip and think 'ah well, it's not my money'

12 Jan 2018 21:18:37
Is there a cryptic message in the Top Top Top player recently Hazzard said Salah was a top top player just something in that keeps standing out.

12 Jan 2018 22:20:49
No, there's not a cryptic message, macca just clearly rates this player.

12 Jan 2018 21:09:03
New to posting. don't jump down my throat. Been reading for a while. Just a thought being that it not the usual suspects according to what macca said. Could it possibly be Kingsley Coman.

{Ed002's Note - Welcome Oscar. Kingsley Colman is not a player being considered by Liverpool right now.}

12 Jan 2018 21:22:37
Nice one for a quick reply ed002. If so hope we go for fekir. But not going to hold my breath. Hopefully a win sunday could go someway to showing we will be fine till end of season if no one comes in.

{Ed002's Note - Fekir would be a great option Oscar but it would be a real battle against Arsenal for him.}

12 Jan 2018 21:28:33
Surely we have a bit more pull than arsenal at present. Player preference i suppose. Thanks for reply anyway ed002. I shall return haha.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps. But Arsenal are now well in to a period of significant change, they have a nice new stadium, and players can live in the south where they don't need to stumble through the cobblestone streets of Liverpool with dead and dying pit ponies in the road.}

12 Jan 2018 21:34:26
So if that's the case it's a straight run for lemar if arsenal are more interested in fekir, an we still won't get him.

12 Jan 2018 21:38:09
Now now ed002. I thought we where vibing then. Liverpool not that bad. Well not all of it haha. Ill take that as and i know your not a fan of Klopp through reading but least he definately going to be there next season. And arsenal loosing their 2 best players by the look of it and who knows With Wenger. Game of opinions though. And it is a banter page after all. Think you giving me a little initiation there to see if i react like half the cranks do on here.

12 Jan 2018 21:39:28
What do the Ed’s think of Kingsley Coman as a player? I get he’s young, played for big teams and apparently very talented but whenever I’ve seen him plate he comes across as very average. One for the future I assume!

{Ed002's Note - He is young and got over-hyped early on. He nearly moved to England but won’t now be leaving Bayern anytime soon - unless the new manager doesn’t want him.}

12 Jan 2018 22:45:50
looks like arsenal going to get a great player in fekir and no doubt he'll be cheaper than Lamar if that's actually who we are chasing and probably over paying for just like it seems we did with nabby.

12 Jan 2018 23:42:20
Thanks ed, so much hype yet when I watched him he looked decent but nothing more.

12 Jan 2018 20:53:51
As every transfer window is a complete frenzy I’m wondering did Macca not see the carnage that would follow posting such an open statement as that. It seems a little naive on his part as he walks away leaving the Ed’s to clean up the hurricane of a mess.
Neither the Ed’s or Macca should be getting abuse for posting opinions and for the record other fans shouldn’t be getting abuse for giving their opinions as it’s what mthis such a great site. However, I feel if your opinion and information are held in such high regard, like Macca’s, then due diligence when posting is critical otherwise we get the bombshell that’s happened on the site that n the last 24 hours.
Huge match coming up and hopefully the posts will start moving towards that game and away from the abuse, the sooner the better.

12 Jan 2018 21:08:57
Its not naive? It's just a guy feeling generous enough to give us some inside information. The only people giving abuse are the. to borrow a word from edward the 2nd. troglodites. The rest of us appreciate the information, and if nothing else, think the rumours are pretty fun.

I feel like we have .00001% chance of getting Griezmann. that being said, I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't checking the internet every 30 mins to be sure.

12 Jan 2018 21:14:51
I just wish that there wouldn't be posts about unnamed players who may or may not come. It sets up the Eds for abuse that and that is not fair. Unless there is a verified lead where the player can be named, I'd rather it not be mentioned. What's the point? I understand Macca wanting to keep us informed and I trust and appreciate his information but this rumour would be better off left alone until something can be verified. Just my opinion.

12 Jan 2018 21:24:51
It’s not fair or reasonable to have a go at the Ed’s or Macca. Invariably they’re right when they do have info. And the Sharkopod is always good. Ed002, you’re a legend, ignore the haters.

{Ed002's Note - I appreciate all of this and Macca gets his fair amount of unsavoury feedback - but he is helping as much as he reasonably can. He may not be able to name names but he is saying the club are looking to do something. We need the room to do that - else, we recommend the fat kid from Bolton - the real news-giver.

But I don't want any grief any more than Macca or the other Eds.}

12 Jan 2018 21:32:01
Well said Ed.

12 Jan 2018 21:34:41
Well I am looking forward to the game Mcgoveb. I think it will be a cracker whatever the results.

12 Jan 2018 21:59:12
Good to see you back on here Ed002 giving usefull info mate. don't let the bad guys get you down. I certainly appreciate all the work you, Macca and the other eds do. ☺.

{Ed002's Note - I haven’t gone anywhere - I was house hunting today.}

12 Jan 2018 22:10:12
Anywhere nice Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Just a rental for now.}

12 Jan 2018 22:10:50
House hunting in Liverpool? I hear you can get a 3 bedroom semi for 2 ponies and a bucket of coal.

12 Jan 2018 22:04:46
Keep hearing the fat kid from Bolton. who? Don't do social media so I have no clue who that is.

12 Jan 2018 22:14:08
Was Naby with you Ed02? 😁.

12 Jan 2018 22:33:15
Shit are you all seriouse eds and macca getting abuse? Missed that! so your getting abuse for posting rumous on a rumour site seriously all maccas post has done has made me check the site more seriously if you don't like what is posted scroll on

Take the attention away from the gimp trolls

Ok so what would any of the reds or eds care to pick a starting 11 out of current players and choose one to sell and the replacment try not to pick on the keepers.

12 Jan 2018 18:53:26
Eds 002 i know your frustrated about the abuse but i rate your opinion
Do you think we have any chance of signing greizmann? Please say much appreciated.

12 Jan 2018 20:34:05
Ed 02 why don't you just remove the idiots giving abuse. You give us your time freely to offer your opinions and knowledge and the majority of us appreciate it. Abuse of any Ed should not be tolerated and the culprits should be punished immediately and extremely.

12 Jan 2018 20:41:25
Don’t understand where the abuse comes from?
Baffling to me 😔.

12 Jan 2018 20:57:25
I think what it is Ron, things like what happened yesterday brings others to the site. They maybe don’t appreciate the site like we do.
Macca wasn’t prepared to mention anything in case of it causing a problem. It unintentionally put the Ed’s in a difficult situation, they were getting inundated with messages and questions. If Macca was afraid of consequences then imagine how the Ed’s felt who run the site.
The abuse never gets through, maybe it should so we could do a witch hunt. It’s our forté.

12 Jan 2018 21:11:11
I didn't use the site yesterday due to work commitments. It sounds like I missed it all.

12 Jan 2018 22:02:56
LFCMAN what don't you understand about ed002 posts today. Don't make it worse. Read all the posts on here and make your own mind up.

The chance of him coming in January is very very slim.

12 Jan 2018 19:27:47
All this talk of strikers and wingers joining is crazy we need a creative hard working midfielder

And a winger/ striker to fight for there place from the 3 leading line.

12 Jan 2018 19:50:16
Kieta is joining in the summer.

12 Jan 2018 19:53:13
Keita, Dezy? You know, the guy we are trying to get right now as we speak?

12 Jan 2018 20:07:51
Completely agree Dezy. I am still hoping it might be Tolisso or Rabiot 😂 French, not linked, top player?

In all seriousness though, it does look like it really is Griezmann we want. He's a lethal goal scorer who can play across the frontline so it's hard to be too disappointed. If we had 4 top versatile forwards, we'd certainly be hard to stop going forward. I just find it hard to accept it's being considered a priority when we have no top class midfielders, only 1 good centre back, no top keepers, and only decent options at full back. It seems like we're putting all our eggs in the "we'll outscore you" basket.

12 Jan 2018 20:44:02
If Sturridge leaves and Ings goes on loan that leaves us light up top so it could be a possibility. If we're going to sign a forward we may as well aim high. I know most don't want to mess with the system as Firmino has been awesome and creates the space for others to exploit but give Firmino a roaming role behind a striker and I believe he would be just as effective. Just my opinion but what ever happens I'm excited with the direction we're going in and I haven't felt this way since Rafa.

12 Jan 2018 20:45:56
Agree with your points MK but if 3 months ago someone said swap coutinho for Griezmann and say 50 mil to go and buy a keeper as well would you take it?

12 Jan 2018 21:36:26
If somebody had said sell Coutinho and get a keeper, I'd have ripped their bloody arm off! Never mind Griezmann and £50m to go with it 😂.

12 Jan 2018 19:20:05
You'd swear the club received £1.41 billion for Coutinho from what I am reading here and on other forums. The most recent one being outbid United for Sanchez he is cheap. His fee is relatively cheap in the current market but his wages are astronomical and if he gets it others will look for higher wages when contract negotiations come up. I am just waiting for us to be linked to Roy of the Rovers next. The sooner the end of January comes and this window closes the better.

12 Jan 2018 19:56:33
Spot on, Ford. Ibra is "free" yet is reportedly on 260k a week. #0m for Sanchez is NOT the issue. His 300k a week paycheck is the problem many seem lazily, to ignore. Go figure.

12 Jan 2018 18:44:05
I get to watch Alexis Sanchez live a lot as my brother is an arse fan and we often go to games together even though I'm a lifelong Liverpool fan (always fun when we play them! )

If a player as good as him becomes available and there is any chance you can get him - you go for it. He is different class. Forget this he moans a lot some talk about - he is a tireless runner every game. He is frustrated at arsenal that he's surrounded by players not as good as him. There are many players his level at Liverpool (salah, Mane, Firmino, vvd etc. )

And please can we not go on about this he didn't want to play for us. When he moved to this country his partner (who I believe is no longer with) only wanted London - this is not unheard of! Get over it.

Don't worry about where he will play. We rotate loads and he can play wings or centre forward.

City have pulled out (unless that's a bit of a Barkley and will sign summer and he stays until then) . United have bid. I say outbid them at £35m and get him in.

12 Jan 2018 19:05:54
Really? He will be getting £300k a week wherever he goes we can't afford him. All this Sanchez, griezeman, Ozil stuff is getting crazy, they are beyond our means.

12 Jan 2018 19:21:46
Who says he would get 300k per week? Also, couts was on c190/ 200k plus bonuses that could lead to nearer 250/ 300k so why not offer similar deal for Sanchez.

You’re a forward - do you want to play for mourinho and his defensive tactics and calling out players in public or maybe a little less money and enjoy the klopp fun?

Most people want to be well paid but most importantly enjoy their job.

12 Jan 2018 19:33:16
I'm an arse fan too, but what has that got to do with Sanchez?

12 Jan 2018 19:48:44
MK - never heard of dirty sanchez 😂.

12 Jan 2018 20:02:21
You cannot separate the two, 1jj. Sanchez is a top talent BUT I have a problem with his attitude as frankly it is getting out of hand. Also, you say you are not sure if he wants 300k a week. Why do you think he has not signed a new deal at Arse for 2 years now? The fact of the matter is that he wants between 250k to 300k a week for say, a 4 year deal. Sorry, that is a rip-off for someone that old. Frankly, I don't want Sanchez here and I don't think he wants to come here either so either way, I'm cool.

12 Jan 2018 20:15:36
BRover - ferguson signed van persie at same age (a player with a history of injury) and history tells you what happened there and sanchez does not have a bad injury record and is likely to have a few more years right at the very top unlike RVP.

If Klopp and FSG are happy to pay whatever it takes then I trust them to make the right call more than us amateurs.

Don’t believe all you hear about his so called bad attitude and let’s say it’s true for a second then that’s Kloppers call not ours and I can tell you that when he’s on the pitch he gives 100%. He’s just Uber competitive and gets frustrated when others don’t try as hard as him or aren’t as capable - that’s why I believe he wants to leave arsenal as they are a club going backwards under Wenger currently.

12 Jan 2018 20:24:21
“MK - never heard of dirty sanchez”

😳💩👨🏻‍💼.

12 Jan 2018 20:50:30
1jj, I have watched Sanchez play since 2005 with the Chile U20 team at the WC and his attitude on the pitch has not changed since then so I know exactly who he is and what he offers on the pitch since his Udinese days.

You seem to be comparing apples to oranges, IMO. Van Persie had a poor injury record at Arsenal for the decade he played for them. They may not have been able to keep him fit BUT the record remains. Also, Van Persie did not to my knowledge, have attitude issues at the Arse and did not demonstrate the outright contempt for his team mates that he shows on a weekly basis cos again, had he gotten his new contract, he would not be doing that. That is my problem.

Bottom line is this. Had Arsenal given him everything he wanted wage wise, he would have been singing their praises as at 28, he wants a last good contract and I can't fault him for that. Bayern, PSG were interested in the summer BUT would not pay his crazy wages and frankly, we shouldn't either. Look, I have loved Sanchez from his teenage years and the guy is a top talent BUT for right now, he's a money grabber and will go anywhere where the money is right. Next!

12 Jan 2018 18:07:48
Whilst Sanchez is 28, he's one hell of a player with a couple of seasons left in him.

Arsenal want £35m, we paid that for Andy C and £40m for the Ox.

Worth a bid imo.

12 Jan 2018 18:15:12
He doesn’t want to play for us, why embarrass ourselves bidding for a player who doesn’t want to come to us.

12 Jan 2018 18:17:12
Do we really need him though?

12 Jan 2018 18:17:24
It's probably the wage demands that will be ridiculous. got to keep them books balanced. or maybe we trying to get him secretly which would is pretty impossible for teams to do nowadays.

12 Jan 2018 18:28:20
As Ed002 repeatedly points out, it's not even as simple as 35m. He'll want to be one of the highest earners around, so say 300k a week, that's over 15m a year on say a 4 year contract, a nice big signing on bonus, taxes, agent fees etc. etc. (I know you don't like talking money Ed's, just making a point) . Whilst he would improve any team, he probably wouldn't want to come to us, and we I personally like to see us spend more effectively.

12 Jan 2018 18:39:41
That's like you once chatted up a girl, she blew you out for what she thought was a better looking guy with brighter prospects, now you've moved up in the world and the lad she chose has gone to pieces a bit so you think you might have a chance and have another pop. have some dignity lol. he turned us down forget him and move on.

12 Jan 2018 18:49:37
You speaking from experience there Matr?!?

12 Jan 2018 18:58:43
But isn't 35 mill and 15 mill a season still cheaper than 90 mill for Lemar and his wages.

12 Jan 2018 19:23:06
Well who ever signs Sanchez, they’ll be getting a brilliant player and yes his salary will be high but pay top dollar, yow get top players.

If united get him, they’ll be a much stronger outfit.

12 Jan 2018 19:35:46
I didn't mention Lemar, that wasn't my point, but hey, if we sign Sanchez in 4 years he'll be worth pretty much squat, but if we were to sign Lemar, we'd either have a superb talent just coming into his prime, or prize asset enabling re-investment back into the club.

12 Jan 2018 19:38:02
I’m sure I read his agent wants £5million as part of the deal as well.

12 Jan 2018 19:40:25
Didn't Salah turn us down once?

12 Jan 2018 19:41:31
Few things.

He isn’t remotely interested in joining us.

He’s said to before that he isn’t remotely interested in playing for us, regardless of money, that isn’t going to change.

He’s 30 this year so for a player who relies upon power and a burst of pace, there really aren’t many more miles left on the clock and as the type of bloke who kicks tyres when he buys a car, I’d avoid this one.

12 Jan 2018 19:42:37
If a girl "blew me out" I would see it as a result!

12 Jan 2018 20:10:31
Maestro, Salah did not turn us down. BR did not offer enough for him at the time and BR as usual, stuck his mouth into it by saying he did not think Salah was good enough at that time to play for us. Yeah, that would definitely make Salah happy to come to us while Mou called him up and asked him to join and Chelsea put the money up. Also, Salah said that he always wanted to come to LFC and was sad it did not go thru so as soon as the chance came again, he jumped at it.

Sanchez that everyone is crowing about, is not my choice and has nothing to do with him rejecting us in the past. Frankly, I think he wants way too much money wage wise and looking for his last pay day. 15m a year for a 28 yr old at 300k a week? No way, IMO. If Lemar is the guy, we go get him and nurture him to be the player Klopp wants and knows he can be. Sanchez like Ozil, is now a money grabber and if Arsenal had given him the wages he wanted, he'd be singing their praises. I'll pass, pls.

12 Jan 2018 20:14:21
Sanchez turned us down when we where nowhere near as good as we are now. He wanted London so if he is prepered to move too a Manchester team then why not us

Wages are high but we have paid stupidly high wages to players who can't even get in the squad, sturridge at the minute must be on 150k ish.

Wages have always been our problem but we need to look at quality over quantity.

12 Jan 2018 20:20:50
BRover spot on, Bodgers messed that one up. Still, Salah is a more rounded player and has learnt from the experience so it worked out for the best.

12 Jan 2018 20:34:28
Spot on Lavers.

He’s good enough for City and united but not for us 😕.

12 Jan 2018 20:58:54
He is not worth the money his whole transfer will cost us including wages and everything else. He is great no doubt about it. But our front men aren't the issue it's clearly the midfield. I honestly think we should stick with what we have and not panic buy. Sanchez would definitely be a panic buy because he was never one of our targets in the summer.

12 Jan 2018 21:06:09
Fatboy

Id take sanchez over coutinho, although id agree the defence still needs sorting.

Like mourinho says though when certain players become available you have to look at buying.

13 Jan 2018 13:03:52
Drogie, no one said Sanchez was not good enough to play for us. The problem is NOT his talent. The problem is everything else.

12 Jan 2018 16:56:19
Any news on the possibility that Ali and mahrez are at Melwood just had a text saying so. Can't find anything on sly news.

12 Jan 2018 17:15:40
Get your head out the sand 🤯.

12 Jan 2018 17:41:20
Ali G maybe.,

12 Jan 2018 17:53:52
One born every minute.

12 Jan 2018 18:21:49
So early on a Friday an already on the drink!

12 Jan 2018 18:33:45
ali isn't he the chef at melwood 😂.

12 Jan 2018 18:35:52
A text from whom? 🤔🤔🤔 The cook? 😉✌.

12 Jan 2018 19:11:03
Who's the lookout at John Lennon? : )

12 Jan 2018 16:22:47
Ed001 you told me at the start of the season your preferred center back was Christensen. Have you been following him? Was it a good call on your part.

He seems to have settled in well but Chelsea keep being linked to buying center backs. I assume to replace someone else.

{Ed001's Note - Cahill is getting on mate, Luiz is not getting on with Conte, so there are two that need replacing long term. Christensen is doing well, that is why they got him to sign a new long term contract.}

12 Jan 2018 16:35:06
Looks a good call from you then Ed. I hope you don't have to pick another one in the summer and one we have steps up. I think whoever plays on Sunday will be Klopp's first choice then it is up to them.

12 Jan 2018 16:35:06
Looks a good call from you then Ed. I hope you don't have to pick another one in the summer and one we have steps up. I think whoever plays on Sunday will be Klopp's first choice then it is up to them.

{Ed001's Note - he was excellent in German football, so it was not exactly a big call to make. It would have been more surprising if he had not prospered once he got a run of games.}

12 Jan 2018 18:31:53
We should nip in and sign him whilst the Chelsea powers that be are distracted trying to sort out the family opposing their stadium redevelopment ;)

12 Jan 2018 15:37:27
Ed002. I appreciate you are probably getting far to many posts on the subject now but could you please give your opinion on AG. I presumed he was nailed on for Barcelona and his wage demands and fee are beyond our level, and the player is out of reach for us. Im not asking you to commment on what Macca has said ed just your thoughts on if you think the player is attainable.

Thanks for all your hard work.

{Ed002's Note - I am not interested. I am already getting abuse over this and Macca posting and will be easing off on what I say now.}

12 Jan 2018 15:43:47
Balague just called it absolute nonsense. I am convinced that the entire rumour started from the '2+2=5' reaction to Macca's post!

12 Jan 2018 15:44:53
I think it is pretty clear it is not very attainable. Think about it Real Madrid, Barcelona etc are interested.

Despite our interest in the player and us pushing for him the chances are extremely small.

More than likely I expect us to hear this from the player and move swiftly on to trying to get the deal done for Lemar in January rather than the summer.

12 Jan 2018 15:50:22
Easing off on AG or on everything Ed?

I hope you continue as before, I take your information as the most accurate.

{Ed002's Note - Everything.}

12 Jan 2018 15:57:06
who said we have an interest in the player jordz? It's just a bunch of people in the internet playing guessing games.

12 Jan 2018 16:03:00
OK now it makes a bit of sense, didn't see the new Macca post specifying he's a French international.


If it really is Griezmann then I don't understand why we are wasting our time with him.

12 Jan 2018 16:04:25
Really? I will never understand why people abuse the Edd's and Macca. If you don't like there opinion don't ask for it or just p*** off.

Long time reader but first time posting. Love the site and well done to all the Edd's for making a great site.

12 Jan 2018 16:04:02
Sorry about that Ed. I won't be asking you anything for a good while.

12 Jan 2018 16:04:42
What is with people.

You're a legend Ed002 to the majority on here. Enjoy your break if you are taking one.

12 Jan 2018 16:06:19
Ed002, I know you're a don with who and what you know from work. If you cut back then the site may as well cease. Those abusing you are cretins, so macca has a couple contacts at Liverpool, you've a hundred across Europe. Sick of people putting you two off against each other, when in reality, I can assure it's a non contest.
Please don't cut back. Side note. How is the kit coming along?

12 Jan 2018 16:08:20
Ed2 you can't leave us at this time of the season most of us on here only come here everyday to see what your opinion and view is. i personally don't read anything unless one of the eds have commented om it. i know it must be hard having the same constant question asked over and over and also people trying yo play u off against Macca. all of yeah do a. massive job and its much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to leave.}

12 Jan 2018 16:11:46
That's my feelings aswell StableGenius.

Feels like a massive waste of time unless we have another forward leaving. Even then I don't see him being interested in a move to us with Barcelona and Real involved.

I would love to be proved wrong on this one but I just hope the club aren't wasting time when we need some creativity in our midfield.

12 Jan 2018 16:15:13
ed02 please don't slow with your input on here because a few mindless idiots are acting like kids who can't have there toys. I personally can't stand any form of social media because it gives spineless idiots who would say nothing to your face a platform to vent stupid faceless comments. these people obviously have limited intelligence and so should be pitied rather than listened to.

{Ed002's Note - I appreciate that but I am not going to be held responsible for not breaking news about Liverpool signing Griezmann.}

12 Jan 2018 16:19:49
Sorry ed. I don't no why you are gettting abuse from it all mate. Please don't stop sharing info nate I appreciate everything you do and share on this site.

12 Jan 2018 16:25:00
Ed002 gives us his / her information and so does Macca on occasion. I would just like to say thanks to Ed002 and Macca, but there is no need to play them off against each other!

12 Jan 2018 16:38:03
I do wonder sometimes if the people who use this site are actually grown men and women or some other kind of unstable entity.

12 Jan 2018 16:42:21
Of course AG is nailed on for Barca, that’s why we are signing him. Lol.

12 Jan 2018 16:53:05
I seriously hope those clowns giving abuse are getting banned then eds. The majority on here appreciate the info given. For those that slate the eds just in relation to something Macca has said, I think you need to have a rethink. Everyone looks foward to a word or two from Macca yeah, but the Eds are on here everyday and provide a platform for Macca in the first place. Show a little appreciation. The eds rarely get it wrong so don’t get p/ ££y when something you don’t like is said. Knowledge is power, be grateful some is being shared with you.

12 Jan 2018 17:24:13
If Balague has said it is nonsense than it might happen. Everything that man says goes in the opposite direction. In one 24 he period last week the man flip flopped his opinion on Coutinho more than a fish on a grass verge. He seems to guess then goes with popular opinion.

12 Jan 2018 17:52:50
I really hope we are not chasing griezmann he's man Utd or Barcelona bound. I think someone said nabil fekir he could be a perfect replacement.

12 Jan 2018 17:58:53
I don’t like any sort of abuse ever. Especially repugnant when it is anonymous. That said. (and I really hope this isn’t perceived as abuse as I try to avoid hypocrisy as well! ) the fawning and vomit inducing declarations of love for Eds and Macca - as great as they may be - make me want to reach for the bucket!

I’m not sure anyone is a legend for dropping vague hints are they?

12 Jan 2018 18:14:20
Macca has posted and we should just respect what he says and wait and see what happens.

I for one prefer that our business is done discreetly, so we actually get a signing over the line, without all the media crap.

12 Jan 2018 19:14:28
Calm down guys, I am joining Liverpool.

12 Jan 2018 19:21:01
its not AG, that we are chasing, tho he is French, a lefttie .

12 Jan 2018 17:16:20
Ed2 you are greatly appreciated on the site. As are your outstanding sharkopods. Trying desperately not to sound like a lick ar*e but you offer so much to the site without receiving anything in return, the fact that you receive abuse from idiots is a sad state of affairs. The fact that you suggest that you will hold back greatly appreciated info because of muppets hiding behind a keyboard is tragic. Perhaps that's the best way for those knuckledraggers to learn or at least realise you are a target with a bigger bite. In ed2 we trust. (I suppose I'd better say he rest of the eds are great as well)

{Ed002's Note - I understand all of this but obviously it is a pain I can well do without. The simple thing remains that I failed to announce the signing of Griezmann.}

12 Jan 2018 18:18:02
Gotta say sometimes ed02 winds me up. but that's only cos sometimes a fan who has their heart invested in the club does not want to hear some things. But genuinely the eds on here give up there time and give us something we can't get elsewhere. so thanks. and ed2 carry on, literally wouldt be the same without your cutting comments.

12 Jan 2018 21:30:18
I listen to Ed002's comments more than anyone else. He's in the know and is very often right.

I dislike the anti Liverpool rhetoric at times but it's unfair if people abuse him.

12 Jan 2018 22:20:01
Ed002, don’t let the DFs get you down.
Anyone who doesn’t appreciate the effort you freely gift to the site is a vacuous gilfnard.

Keep on rolling man 😉👍.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks Ron.}

12 Jan 2018 11:36:37
Will be interesting to see if Moreno comes straight back into the team when fully fit.

12 Jan 2018 12:35:08
He needs to be gradually put back in after his injury. I rate him more then Robertson although he has impressed me somewhat since he's been playing, I'd say they are both very similar players both not fantastic but Moreno is ahead of him for me.

12 Jan 2018 14:01:19
Nah, not for me. Robertson's done enough to prove he's streets ahead of Moreno in ability.

12 Jan 2018 14:04:46
Moreno is our best left back, but he won't be fit so patience will be needed. Robertson is doing okay for now.

12 Jan 2018 14:17:33
Robertson is a much better defender, and that's the primary job.

12 Jan 2018 14:29:38
I am 50 - 50 on the left back position. It is up for grabs who wants it the most? Robertson will start tomorrow so it might be his position to lose.

The bigger questions are who plays with VVD, and who plays alongside Can?

12 Jan 2018 14:39:01
I think Khedeira, Pjanic and Matuidi will play alongside Can in a diamond formation.

12 Jan 2018 14:42:42
Mark, I just hope Matip isn't along side VVD on Sunday.

12 Jan 2018 14:49:02
Robertson all day long for me, and I should know I played 2 seasons at left back for a pub team about 20 years ago.

12 Jan 2018 15:18:29
JTaylor I agree Matip doesn't deserve a game. Lovren for me, I hope VVD is the making of Lovren as a Liverpool player.

It can't be good switching keepers every couple of games. A new back 4 is trying to settle in and get an understanding, it can't be helpful.

12 Jan 2018 15:25:17
If Robertson had an o or io at the end of his name he would be a world beater.
He's been pound for pound a brilliant signing and won't want away in a few years time.

12 Jan 2018 15:35:26
Robertson will get better and better the more he plays whereas Moreno has had enough chances and will always have that tendency to switch off and cause us problems.

12 Jan 2018 16:23:42
Moreno is Terrible!

12 Jan 2018 16:45:15
I don't think van dijk will fix lovren to be honest. Try as he might, he is not mentally tough enough for the level liverpool require, and will always be prone to imploding at critical moments during games.

12 Jan 2018 17:47:50
I remember Eds001 saying Lovren looked good at Southampton because Fonte organised him maybe vvd can do the same.

12 Jan 2018 18:54:23
Klavan should partner VVD for now, he has been the most consistent of our CBs this season, no frills and good distribution, an ideal partner for someone new to the team and its system, he will allow VVD to concentrate on his own game rather than the whereabouts of his wandering partner.

12 Jan 2018 10:49:28
On Twitter people seem to think Ox is a deity.

We cannot win the premier league with him in our first choice 11 and anyone that says otherwise is flat out delusional.

12 Jan 2018 11:08:30
"First choice 11" doesn't really exist anymore with rotation and injuries are going to play a part. Even if we do have 11 ahead of him playing there is 5 people in that team that he could come in and replace without a huge drop in quality which is still a very valuable asset to have.

12 Jan 2018 11:19:13
Bitter Everton fans, deluded United fans and jealous Arsenal fans. Leave them to it 😂

There is only one Everton fan worth listening to, and he is part of our community. I refer of course to Stef.

12 Jan 2018 11:14:23
You are crazy. Give the lad a bloody chance he's been here since August and already becoming a fan favourite on and off the field.
I'm so happy he's here. and he can only get better.
If you genuinely cannot see how dedicated he is to improving his game then I don't know what to tell you.
He's trying so hard.

12 Jan 2018 11:15:21
Good squad player for me.

12 Jan 2018 11:16:18
One player only won’t win you the league mate, but it’s nice to have someone with a bit of passion for our club. He might not be Messi, but at least the lad is trying to work hard and improve for LFC.

12 Jan 2018 11:23:49
You all talk of hard work like it means anything. Dejan Lovern works hard, don't see you defending him.

Everyone is so impressed with Ox, tell me if he had 4 goals and 4 assists on the year would everyone think he is Iniesta reincarnated? Give me a break guys.

12 Jan 2018 11:30:42
What a silly post. Again this stupid focus on winning the league, as if we have a right or there is a way to assemble a squad that will definately win you the league. As if everyone isn't trying to do the same.

What a lovely sentiment to slag off our newest player, barely been here a few months, has done nothing but knuckle down, work hard and improve. You can't even give a reason behind your bashing.

12 Jan 2018 11:38:39
I am not his biggest fan, but give the lad a bit of time. He is certainly doing better than Gini and his set pieces are very good so far.

12 Jan 2018 12:10:29
Kirbydinsmore, it made little sense, but I'm guessing you're slagging off Ox's goal/ assist return, citing that because he has 2 goals and 2 assists by the mid point of the league campaign, he will finish on 4 and 4.

Since signing for Liverpool, Ox has averaged a goal/ assist every 188 minutes of playing time. 3 goals, 3 assists in 1129 minutes (he has an additional goal in the CL, and assisted Virgil's winner in the FA cup, on top of those in the Prem) .

In a normal season, once a player is settled, players will play close to a rough average of 3400 minutes. So if he carries on at a goal/ assist every 188 minutes he looks good for more like 18 goals/ assists a season once he is cemented into the starting XI (which will be next season in my opinion) . That would perfectly tie in to the figures he hit in his final Arsenal season of 6 goals and 12 assists in all competitions.

You can't just use stats that carelessly mate. You've not actually looked at them in any detail. Even my slightly more detailed analysis is still all based on numbers on a piece of paper. Ox might improve exponentially once he's a regular starter and do better than expected, or he might capitulate under the pressure to be a key player and do worse than expected. It's all just predictions, but if you are going to make a prediction based on statistics, you might as well do it correctly!

12 Jan 2018 12:30:59
I think he has been fine. You need players like this with some grit. He also has a good cross in for corners.

12 Jan 2018 12:39:26
Did we just win a game in the 90+ minute because of an Ox delivery from a free kick?

What is wrong with people, have some respect. Leicester won the league with way worse players than Ox. Hell, United won it with Anderson and Tom Cleverley, who wouldn't make it in my Sunday league team.

12 Jan 2018 13:08:10
Not his biggest fan but he’s been patient, worked his socks off when he’s played and shown some quality. Still think we paid too much, but it’s an intangible matter to fans really. He can at least take a decent corner.

12 Jan 2018 14:11:36
the most important factor for me is that he WANTS to play for Liverpool, I have no doubt he will Improve under klopp.

12 Jan 2018 15:00:14
When the only thing good you can say about a player is "he is working really hard" he isn't good.

Name one specific facet of ox's game that has gotten better?

The delusion is much worse than I thought and it's not just Twitter I see.

12 Jan 2018 15:17:11
Energy. Forward runs. Tackling and breaking up play. Plays with his head up. Splits the lines. Assists. And corners.

12 Jan 2018 15:29:11
Coutinio averaged a goal every 4 games.
Ox is doing great and I think there is more to come from the lad.

12 Jan 2018 18:03:13
If everyone is deluded except you.

12 Jan 2018 18:33:54
Well in that case Kirbydinsmore, please feel free to have a break from constant slating of our player. Ox is clearly wanted to be here and has shown that he got the talent and right attitude.

Would be good for if all of us fans support our players, instead of being salty towards them. YNWA.

12 Jan 2018 10:14:33
Griezmann?

Forget it!

While i can see us being able to afford his transfer fee i highly DOUBT we would entertain his apparent request's from interested parties of £400K a week.

Never going to happen.
Nothing to see here.

vrcomp
Y. N. W. A.

12 Jan 2018 10:44:26
He can play anywhere across a front 3, but does he even get into our team? 🤔

I'm not convinced he does to be honest. He has 8 goals this season playing as the main goal scorer or Atletico. That's 16 less than Salah, 8 less than Firmino, and level with Mane who has barely played so far.

I'd be disappointed if this is the player Macca was on about 😞 i wanted a top, top midfielder or goal keeper. It would be nice to have 4 top class players for 3 forward positions, but not when we have no top class players in midfield.

12 Jan 2018 10:52:44
And I loath the little telephone dance he does.

12 Jan 2018 11:14:01
Agreed MK, it makes 0 sense. We have firmino playing his position every game, if there is any position we should not be buying for it is that, yet we are crying out for reinforcements in midfield. Not only would i be disappointed because it makes no sense, but it would be such a waste of our time and resources because its never going to happen.

12 Jan 2018 11:15:11
I can't deal with this 😂 I've spent 12 months telling United fans he is over rated (he's top class, not world class), and I'm not going to change my opinion now just because we're linked. 8 goals for a striker in all competitions by mid January is shocking. To be fair though he is good for 20-30 goals a season normally, but that is in Spain where every team plays football, the pitches are perfect, the weather is beautiful and the league is top heavy. His game is based around clever movement, a great touch, decent interplay around the box, and clinical finishing anywhere inside 25 yards.

He's not going to add to our midfield, because he is too lazy and weak to play there. Equally, he doesn't have a good passing range and he's nowhere near as good at running at teams as Coutinho. He is a top class goal scorer (never world class though like some people make out) but only a decent attacking midfielder from what I've seen. I could only see it working in a 4-4-2 with Griezmann and Firmino up top, and Mane and Salah wide. Taking Salah that far away from goal and burdening him with more defensive duties seems stupid to me though. He is on course for 50 in his current role. Griezmann has never scored more than 36 as far as i know (though i hadn't paid any notice of him until about 3 years ago) .

Well at least it would be proof we can still compete in the market, and at least it would be a top class player coming in rather than 3 good players. It's not my job to make it work as a team 😂 over to you, Klopp.

12 Jan 2018 11:22:51
Griezmann - wouldn't get in our team? That to me says you don't know what you are talking about.

The front 3 will not play every game so he fills in central of left. Meaning we can always play the same system. He will get plenty of goals and assists.

When all 4 are fit, Mane will play attacking midfield and carry the ball or Firminho will play behind the front 3. Griezmann would make our first 11 much better. I don't think he will come but he would take us up a level.

12 Jan 2018 12:12:05
He would walk into the team and take Mane's spot without a doubt.

12 Jan 2018 12:26:00
Mark you are paraphrasing, to try and have a dig at me for an opinion i don't even have. My posts made it clear that i don't think Griezmann would be a part of our first choice front 3 if we kept the current system.

I never said he wouldn't get game time. With rotation and injury, he'd get plenty. I did also suggest an alternate system where all 4 could theoretically play together at times.

You've just tried to find a reason to insult me, instead of debating my actual point; that a midfielder is more of a priority than a 4th top class forward. He definitely takes us up a level in terms of depth and overall squad quality, because he's a top class forward. I just genuinely believe that a top class midfielder would improve our starting XI more than Griezmann would (unless Klopp has a master plan that I'm missing) . That doesn't mean i don't think he would improve us. Of course he would or he wouldn't be so highly rated. He just wouldn't be my priority, is all.

You even said yourself that he "fills in central or left". I get that he could give us quality in depth. For the money he'd cost though, he would have to start, so we'd have to tweak the system. I would hope Klopp would do just that and we'd be even better going forward. That's what he's paid for. But it seems unnecessary when we could just sign a player to improve the current system. Would you not agree with that?

12 Jan 2018 12:40:06
Brisbane, were you about when Ed002 did the Galactic team? Mane was pretty much universally voted in as the left winger.

Yet here we are, about 4 months later. Mane has been injured/ suspended/ ill so everyone has forgotten all about how he was our best player last season. Coutinho has left so it needs to be dramatized; "Mane isn't fit to replace him". And Griezmann has been linked so he has to be hyped "He'd walk in ahead of Mane".

Hilariously, neither of Coutinho or Griezmann were voted for as the other left winger. So please forgive me for not being a part of the fickle majority. When i give an opinion, it is not based on a bit of in the moment hysteria. I said Mane was the one of the best left wingers in the world 4 months ago, and so did most others. The difference is, i have the conviction to stick to my opinion instead of changing it every 5 minutes to suit current affairs.

Griezmann is not a better player than Mane, Firmino or Salah in any of their individual positions. So to fit him in, we'd have to tweak the system. If Klopp thinks he is good enough to justify doing that, he will do it and I'll back him to make it work. The grass on the other side only appear greener because it is fertilized with BS.

12 Jan 2018 13:15:58
Griezmann
Mane Firmino Salah
Can Henderson
Moreno VanDijk Matip Gomez
Karius

In a 4231 Griezmann can get in our team.

12 Jan 2018 13:49:25
VakPa the problem there is Can and Henderson. One is leaving and the other might never be fit enough to be a key player again.

Keita and Chamberlain are both likely to play in midfield next season and I'm not sure a 2 man midfield suits either of them that much. If we ask Firmino to drop deeper to help our creatively then we will lose his pressing from the front. Firmino would have to play up front with Griezmann for me. Maybe just off him. To accommodate that though, Salah will have more creative and defensive responsibilities, dropping deeper to receive the ball and drive us forward, but also helping out his full back. He is quite capable. That is how he played at Roma, and he assisted 15 goals in his last season there. He also only scored 19 goals though (5 less than he has already this season) because he didn't have the freedom to wait on the shoulder of the last man all game, like he can in our current system.

There are definitely ways to fit Griezmann into our team and it will make us stronger going forward, overall. I'm purely debating whether or not he is the best option for us, because i think a creative midfielder would make us even stronger still! For me, playing with 2 strikers cuts down the chances for your wide forwards and basically turns them in wingers. That's fine, but if anybody thinks Griezmann will come in and score 30 goals, without Salah, Firmino and Mane's goal tally being affected slightly they are in a dream world. If it was as simple as just adding loads of goal scorers and none of them getting in each others ay at times, everyone would do it. You need to set up to play a certain way and get players which suit that system. Griezmann does not fit in to our current system unless you drop Salah; the goal scorer. That doesn't mean we can't change the way we play to fit them both in though.

12 Jan 2018 14:00:36
MK no one agrees with you on this. Griezmann gets in our first 11 everyday of the week. No matter what system, we play. You talk as if we have a team that is the best in Europe.

Griezmann gets in every club sides first 11. (Barca first 11 I would listen to that argument) . Put it another way I really hope he doesn't end up at Man ure.

I am starting to think we disagree on nearly everything about football MK.

12 Jan 2018 14:04:10
This is the Arsenal approach, we tried but we couldn't get it done in the end, will make FSG look good to the guilable fans :) And we end up signing no one, or they have decided to keep selling our best players and will cash in on Salah in the summer for 3 times what they paid for him ;)

12 Jan 2018 14:05:22
Your first post says he wouldn't get in our team, which is total BS.

12 Jan 2018 14:06:23
Hmmmm sorry but anyone who wouldt want him in their side is mad. lol
The fella is quality and I genuinely feared he was of to utd. as I thought he would be the player that turned them from top 4 back to champions.
If lfc pull this off it would be amazing and really propel us back to where we want to be.
It would also make attracking signing easier in the summer.

I just wonder though. this is very un fsg. could there be a take over on the cards.

12 Jan 2018 14:33:59
Mark, i don't care who agrees with me 😂 if i cared who agreed with me I'd jump on the bandwagon. I will happily amass thousands of thumbs down, because at least I'm being honest with myself and sticking to my guns. The normal opinion is like a flag; it changes direction with the wind!

Mane was voted by all of us as the best left winger in the world, our team is currently built around Firmino, and Salah is currently one of the highest goal scorers in Europe. The only forwards in world football who i think gets in our team is Messi ahead of Firmino and Neymar ahead of Mane. No other forward gets into our front 3 when all fit, in my opinion. That's because Messi is the only better false 9, and Neymar is the only better left forward. Salah for me, is the best right forward in the world. Is it that much of a crime nowadays to appreciate what you have?

I did not say he wouldn't get in our team. I asked the question if he would, and then explained why I'm not fully convinced he would start if everyone was fit, in our current 4-3-3. I then explained an alternative scenario as to how he does get in our team, if we switch to a 4-4-2. You are making stuff up to belittle my opinion.

Griezmann is a top class player. He will definitely get games at any team in the world. I have not once disputed that. All i have said is that; 1) i think fitting him in would require a change of system, 2) I have said i think he is top class rather than world class, and 3) I've explained that I'd prefer to stick with our current system and sign a creative midfielder instead.

I couldn't give a monkeys whether people agree with me though. It's my opinion and I'm going to express it. It is common knowledge that most football fans would rather see loads of money spent on a player they don't really need, than to spend a modest fee on a player they do need. Everyone wants a marquee/ statement signing, rather than the right signing. Sorry, but i don't subscribe to that hysteria nonsense.

If Griezmann joins, I'm sure he'll be great for us and score lots of goals once he's settled in. It's a definite improvement to the squad, and if Klopp can get it to work, the starting line up. I just think we'd have improved more by targeting a player like Kroos, for example. If it's so wrong of me to want to sign a player for a position we are actually weak in and to support the players we already have, then fine, I'm wrong.

12 Jan 2018 15:33:27
Wholeheartedly agree Adam - how people are jumping on you for this I don't understand. Well presented argument as always.

12 Jan 2018 15:46:51
Cheers Cotsi! At least now i know who my one agree is on my posts 😂.

12 Jan 2018 16:05:07
Totally agree with MK on this one. As good a player as Griezmann is (and he definitely gets in the team), I would say the need for a creative midfielder is greater. Taking money out of the equation, I still think Lemar suits our needs better. Plus, let's be serious, there is not a chance AG is actually going to join.

12 Jan 2018 16:05:52
No worries mate, I just think people must ignore half the stuff you write as you've put a very reasoned argument together for why you think another position would be more beneficial without saying AG isn't a top quality player. For people to say you have no idea what you're talking about it just absurd, but I guess that's just my opinion ha.

Personally I would be super excited by the signing, but not as excited as I would be if it were someone like Kroos/ Vidal etc.

12 Jan 2018 16:15:52
I don't agree at all on what you have been saying but the last post was a good one. I remember in the summer on the site was a world 11. I like Mane a lot and am looking to him for the rest of the season but there must be a few better for his position Neymar to name one.

If it was 4-3-3 I can't see how Mane gets in that team. What was the team MK?

12 Jan 2018 16:50:58
Cheers Tommy and Cotsi.

Mark if you search 'Galactic' you'll find it. Mane was the only Liverpool player to be voted into the team. I think Firmino, Coutinho and Salah got a few votes, but none made the cut except Mane.

To be fair to you mark, you've been consistent. You've been one of a select few saying we need a goal scorer ahead of Firmino all along. What's bothered me is that a, lot of people who have been slaughtering you and saying we don't need a striker, are now busting a nut over Griezmann, and that everyone who said Mane was our best player last season now seems overly keen to kick him whilst he's down. For me, Mane is better than Coutinho or Griezmann on the left of a front 3. That's just my opinion though. Everyone agreed 4 months ago, but football has a short memory.

12 Jan 2018 18:24:27
I would take him in a flash, and really would not complain at all.

Player I would choose over anyone for our needs. veratti.

12 Jan 2018 03:40:48
question for ed002. I would like your opinion on my thoughts.
with transfer fees being ridiculous, do you see, over the next few years, top players signing shorter contracts, as well as top players running them down to avoid being held at clubs, scared other clubs could never afford them if they are performing well? Having a look at contracts running down in 2018 there are some big names.
cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Transfer fees are only ridiculous for a handful of players - the vast majority of clubs either can't or won't over spend on players. Mainland European club are happy to take windfall money from the English sides and some sides are happy to over't. I agree that 2018 is seeing contracts run down for some high end pch of that is down to the stupidity of of certain clubs.}

12 Jan 2018 07:56:35
Final score prediction for Sunday?
Final league position prediction for May?
I'm going to say 2-2 on Sunday and we'll finish 3rd behind City and Chelsea.

12 Jan 2018 08:35:33
Decent shout that mate.

12 Jan 2018 09:09:44
I see a surprising 1-0 to us with wini scoring. I see us finishing 2nd. I also see dead people.

12 Jan 2018 09:12:02
Sunday 5-1 to LFC
May - 2nd.

12 Jan 2018 08:55:56
We’ll beat them. They’ll come out and attack and we’ll a catch them every time. 0-3 if we don’t start with migs. 2-4 if we do. Suddenly the man city machine won’t look as unstoppable and hopefully pep’s micro managing begins to grate the players nerves. The season is far from over.

12 Jan 2018 08:57:20
A point at least would be great but I'm just expecting us to lose this one, a point of more is a bonus.

12 Jan 2018 09:20:29
I'll have what you're having Ron.

12 Jan 2018 09:29:52
I think it'll be 3-1 to city. God, I hope I'm wrong and we somehow smash them to bits!

12 Jan 2018 10:03:20
Ron is back! Love it Ron. glad to see you again mate.

12 Jan 2018 11:04:46
Sunday - 4-4, we'll be winning 4-2 or 4-1 until the 85th minute and think the game is over xD.

May - 3rd.

12 Jan 2018 12:45:26
3-1 to City was my gut feeling as well. I think we will get overrun in midfield, and struggle to break them down except on the counter.

12 Jan 2018 14:32:43
I also think we'll take 2nd Ron, I really do, I would say 3-2 Sunday to us.

12 Jan 2018 17:06:21
2-1 Liverpool. City facing some tough injuries
May-3rd.

12 Jan 2018 20:26:45
Welcome back Ron Keague! Where has this Ron been?

12 Jan 2018 07:16:56
Morning Eds
Lets take a break from all this transfer frenzy speculation so I can ask u the question do you honestly think Woodburn has a future at the club I know he is only what 18? but I expected to see a lot more of him this season do u think Klopp rates him enough or still sees him as a little raw would love to see more players like him being given a chance its certainly done wonders for Gomez and TAA .
Cheers Mate.

{Ed001's Note - he is just a kid, he will need time and patience, like Lingard did at United. I would expect nothing much for at least 2 years mate, it is more likely he will have loans. Klopp certainly rates him, but the lad is just not ready yet.}

12 Jan 2018 07:32:12
Cheers Ed
Do you think the same could be said for Brewster time on loan to mature and fulfill potentional, be fantastic to start adding our youth players to our squad little by little as we haven't really brought anyone through for quite some time before the likes of TAA .
Cheers Mate.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, though I think he will mature earlier, his skillset is not so reliant on experience to develop to its fullest. It is more instinctual when it comes to getting into goalscoring positions.}

12 Jan 2018 07:42:10
Cheers Ed
Always quick to reply, informative and reliable much appreciated mate 👍😁.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

12 Jan 2018 07:47:43
Not really Liverpool related but as you mentioned him what’s your opinion on Lingard ed01?

{Ed001's Note - I like him a lot as a player, his only real problem has been immaturity, which he had continually displayed off the pitch. Now he is growing up, he is turning into an excellent player with a propensity for scoring important goals. What you get with him is good runs into dangerous areas and generally an end product. That is the most important thing of all, having an end product is so rare, most players display a lot of ability but it is all flashy and ends in a ball being given away needlessly. Lingard is more about doing something to affect the game in the right way.}

12 Jan 2018 09:13:05
Lingard reminds me of Scholes.

12 Jan 2018 09:21:56
Lingard will wash up at Everton in a few years time.

12 Jan 2018 09:22:17
I would more say Freddie Ljungberg who used to make the same type of runs and score important goals for arsenal
scholes imo is on another level compared to lingard, but who knows maybe in a few years time he might be.

12 Jan 2018 10:06:39
I hope they do right by Woodburn and don’t ruin his career but getting the next crucial couple of years wrong. He needs to play and a season under Coleman would be perfect as he’s seen him and believes in him so will put him on the pitch. Same with Rhian who’s only 6 months younger and probably going to be ready to play championship at 18.

12 Jan 2018 11:07:45
I always get confused when I see "Lingard" and "scoring goals" in the same sentence cos I always assume he’s a goalkeeper xD.

12 Jan 2018 11:48:18
Lingard is a 25yo that acts like a 16yo.

12 Jan 2018 03:15:36
I would like to see Javier Hernandez, Christian Pulsic, Expand the brand to the US and Mexico with quality players, Allison Becker, (Lanzini or Ceballos), and another quality CB I would like Bonucci but don't think that would be doable.

12 Jan 2018 05:26:36
Don't want much do you mate!

11 Jan 2018 19:19:18
Ed001

Quick question regarding a transfer may require a longer answer though 😂.
We all know about city flirting with and wanting sanchez and it's been thought of for sometime now that, that will be his destination.
Now utd have bid for him (supposedly) if this is indeed true is there a reason why we would not try our luck?

Is he seen as someone that would be not a good influence on others around the squad and may disrupts things? Just curious as to why we wouldn't be interested in him when he's clearly available. Or is it a case of he's already made his mind up and it's a token gesture alla bill kenwright style bid from utd knowing they don't stand a chance but trying to appease the fans somewhat by bidding?

{Ed001's Note - he wants to go to City, so it would just be a case of United trying their luck just in case City can't get a deal done with Arsenal.}

11 Jan 2018 00:15:47
I am going to start by saying I don't think this is happening, but we are all of a sudden 7/2 favourites to sign Greizman. Also he is in the UK. in London at the nba.

See the dreaming has started lol.

11 Jan 2018 23:58:16
With the site going metal today it would be wrong of me if I didn't plug the charity match donation link :) Charity Donate
£155 raised by non players so far in a few days is brilliant.

{Ed033's Note - yes, the site went all Black Metallica Sabbath today.

12 Jan 2018 00:38:13
Posting it when the Sandman enters means we've missed the peak views.
See what I did there! Don't worry, will be my "One" and only pun.

{Ed033's Note - Sad But True, please Don't Tread on Me.

12 Jan 2018 00:53:23
Sorry but you'll remain The Unforgiven.

12 Jan 2018 01:20:04
You guys deserve to ride the lightning for that lot.

{Ed033's Note - I Fight Fire with Fire, Am i Evil?

12 Jan 2018 01:44:49
You're just Paranoid.

12 Jan 2018 02:09:36
the plug seems like a not so dirty deed, done dirt cheap.

12 Jan 2018 08:29:16
Less of the war, pigs.

12 Jan 2018 12:42:32
Listening to you lot has made me crave some Whiskey in a Jar. Nothing else matters to me now.