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Favourite player: Maradona

Best team moment: Maradona solo goal vs England


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05 Jul 2017 15:23:40
Eds, if you have time to get away from all the transfer news, would love your opinions on a a few ex players. Firstly Berger- thought he was brilliant for us and was gutttd when he left though it seemed injury had got the better him at that time. The other 2 are clough and leonhardsen. Both I was excited to sign, had been massive success's at prior clubs. Did okay for us but where did it go wrong? Wrong system? Wrong manager? Wrong positions? Just not good enough? Thanks for any reply.


{Ed001's Note - I remember Paddy Berger well, me ma was obsessed with him. Hammer of a left foot, great skill on the ball and a genuinely nice lad who loved Liverpool. Injuries and poor coaching did not help him make the most of his talents though. He had pace and skill but was badly used.

I was never a fan of Clough, he had all the pace of a slug towing a caravan. He was just not quite good enough for us quality wise. Not far off, but that step down in class that saw us drop away from being a dominant force.

As for Leonhardsen, he was just a workhorse with no real quality at all from what I saw. Nowhere near good enough and was a poor buy.}

1.) 05 Jul 2017 16:29:48
I used to think Titi Camara was good and underused.

2.) 05 Jul 2017 16:51:41
Goes to show how much of a poor manager and coach Ged was.

3.) 05 Jul 2017 17:09:17
The most underused and wasted player we signed had to be Jari Litmanen. Loved that guy and was so happy when we signed him but was hardly played given his calibure and skill.

4.) 05 Jul 2017 17:16:47
My auntie started screaming Patrick when we seem him in Southport and made me grab his autograph. He was very kind and polite though and even give her a kiss.

5.) 05 Jul 2017 17:16:47
My auntie started screaming Patrick when we seem him in Southport and made me grab his ass. He was very kind and polite though and even give her a kiss.

6.) 05 Jul 2017 20:26:28
I remember listening to the radio during the matches just to hear the commentators say "berger shot"

7.) 05 Jul 2017 20:31:15
Ged. Who won 5 trophys in a season?

Gerrard also puts a lot of his career down to him. like taking him and his family for a meal and telling hin how he had to live his life as a professional. Maybe without that chat gerrard would of done everything he did.

8.) 06 Jul 2017 04:00:18
Thanks for the reply Ed, always thought Berger was wasted being pushed out wide. liked him in the centre. you're right about Clough great talent but didn't improve with us and always seemed to fall a little short. oyvind I don't remember much about other than he used to score loads at Wimbledon but nothing for us!

{Ed001's Note - Berger was defo better centre, we never got him involved enough out wide and he was not a winger.

Clough I am not so sure he was a great talent. He was over rated imo. Good player, but not good enough. To me he was one of those overhyped because they were English players.

As for Leo, he was just not good enough to deal with a passing game, give him a breaking ball to run onto and smack and he was fine. Expect him to get involved in build up and make clever runs to create space and he was completely lost.}



29 Jun 2017 12:20:22
For any LFC fans in Australia i was quite surprised to see they did a 10 minute piece on 'the project' about justice for the 96 this evening. you can watch on catch up tv if interested.




21 Dec 2016 12:47:37
Still amazes me on this site, loads don't rate Hendo, wini, can, Milner, lovren, Lucas, couthino ( not a big game player lol) sturridge ( doesn't fit the style) migs, karius, klaven, Clyne, Moreno ( get that one! ) lallana ( views finally changed last few games) . Anyone would think if they hadn't seen the league table that we are a shocking team, scrambling around the bottom of the table. We have a very good squad and more importantly a manager that is slowly getting the best out of them. A lot to be optimistic about in my opinion! My last day of work tomorrow til the new year! Here's hoping to a bumper Xmas for LFC!


1.) 21 Dec 2016 13:19:22
Patience is no longer a virtue, I`m afraid.

2.) 21 Dec 2016 18:01:23
I don't rate can I got to say!

3.) 21 Dec 2016 20:32:06
Hi Hamilton
26 years is a lot of patience.

Nearly a life sentence.

I've been there for each one of them
And another 24 before that.



4.) 21 Dec 2016 21:34:18
Dermot, I have been patient for 26 years as well. I just have a different perspective on patience than you. as well as, fans of today who have no patience to allow our players time to grow. That was my point.

5.) 22 Dec 2016 04:19:23
To be totally honest, I like the guy and he seems like a nice lad, but Wijnaldum doesn't look all that great. Maybe I just don't understand his role.

6.) 22 Dec 2016 06:29:24
Wijnaldum is marginally upgrade on Allen. But we needed a world class CM.

7.) 22 Dec 2016 07:50:34
Give Wij a chance.

8.) 22 Dec 2016 08:13:01
I hate it when people say we need a world class player in whatever position. Well, duh. Who doesn't. Just because we "need" one doesn't mean we are going to get one. Truly world class players are a rare breed and even if we could afford to buy one, who says we could afford their wages or even if they would want to come here? So how about being a bit more realistic?
So many seem to assume that winning teams only have world class players in every position. So very very wrong.

9.) 22 Dec 2016 08:36:54

He is getting plenty of chances, In fact he is keeping Can out from the starting eleven.

10.) 22 Dec 2016 10:33:20
Have some of you not learnt anything from judging our players too soon! Henderson, Lovren, Lucas, Lallana (myself guilty with Adam, really upped his game this season) have been ridiculed by our own fans and now two of them (Henderson and Lallana) are integral to how we play and the other two are good players in their own right who do/ have done great things for our club, and yet still our own fans call players out and label them as 'not good enough', or 'not done enough for me' after only just passing double figures in appearances for their new club.

Here's a thought, how about we support them and encourage them to perform well for us rather than than thinking we are more knowledgeable than our manager and that X, Y or Z would be better or do a better job! Klopp knows what he's doing and if he thinks Wijnaldum is good enough for us then we should back that decision.

Personally think Wijnaldum has been brilliant and once he fully settles we will see him add the goals to his game that he is missing at the moment.

11.) 22 Dec 2016 14:15:43
Harry, would that world class CM be Carzola by any chance? LOL!

Scarface, people have learnt nothing and continue to ask for what they clearly can`t have instead of supporting our own players who mind you, have led us to second in the table whereas we were not even supposed to be anywhere near this position at season`s start.

These very players (who are not world class or whatever the heck that means) are the same ones that Klopp has made even better and are collectively performing as a team YET they still ask for world class players. Who would that be? Carzola, Couric (unproven), Draxler (overrated) Sanchez, Hazard (all taken) or who? Exactly. We seem to never be satisfied with our lot especially when we are doing well. Pathetic, really.

{Ed025's Note - the only crumb of comfort i can give you hamilton is that every team has the same problem with a section of their supporters mate..



11 Aug 2016 12:27:18
Some great names set up for the fantasy league group which was set up. 'Show me the mane, ' ' benteke fried chicken' and 'spank the mancs' amongst my faves!


1.) 11 Aug 2016 12:52:03
Mines called, Can Mane Karius to the title.

2.) 11 Aug 2016 13:04:33
Mines 'Mane Can Karius' :/.

3.) 11 Aug 2016 13:19:42
What are the details to join?

4.) 11 Aug 2016 13:44:43
Code is 160919-52411 on the official premier league fantasy site.

5.) 11 Aug 2016 13:52:16
Mines, Migsballsorrylads.

6.) 11 Aug 2016 14:25:59
My mate has 2 teams: AC McCann and Inter McCann.

Can you guess what his surname is!

7.) 11 Aug 2016 14:51:32

8.) 11 Aug 2016 15:13:41
I always go with Substandard Liege.

9.) 11 Aug 2016 18:17:40
Just joined, sorting squad out.

10.) 11 Aug 2016 22:28:07
I have posted a few reminders of the code to join the league.

I used liverpool-rumours. co. uk as league name. The code is 160919-52411.



23 Jul 2016 12:13:26
Does anyone know any reliable international premier league streaming sites that I can watch through a Vpn? In Australia we have been shafted as the sole provider now requires you to have a mobile contract or broadband service to get it ( which doesn't help if you are already under contract or don't want their crap slow speeds) I'm happy to pay for a reliable streaming service. I heard premier league pass in New Zealand was good value but they've also lost the rights! Only a couple of weeks til the season starts So I need this sorted! Cheers.


1.) 23 Jul 2016 12:36:37
Just stick your vpn on and download acestream. Go to the livefootballol site and find whichever game you want to view. Scroll down and search for the acestream link on the game page and away you go. 80% of matches are on there. If that fails just go on to reddit match threads and there are loads of links to choose from.

Main thing you need to be wary of is whether the vpn slows your traffic. Can be annoying if you want to view a hd stream and the throughput of traffic is high.

2.) 23 Jul 2016 12:42:33
cricfree. tv.

3.) 23 Jul 2016 12:57:27
Cheers guys, I was hoping for reliable site that I could always use even it it meant paying for it but I'll give those two a go.

4.) 23 Jul 2016 14:08:33
Try Ronaldo7, the streams are always really high quality, but they can go down a lot if there's loads of people watching them.

5.) 23 Jul 2016 14:58:44
You can try downloaded Kodi and installing Pheonix on there (youtube will have a tutorial), it will have every single premier league game in perfect HD and its free! Its what i use to watch matches that aren't shown on TV like the 3pm kick off games!




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14 Jun 2017 14:26:30
LFC hopeful of course not but we have 1 player who plays in Afcon who missed more of the season through injury than he did that tournament. Buying 1 more player who may be gone for 4 weeks in 18 months time is hardly the basis to build / not build a strategy on. It's unlikely both would be our for the same time ( if selected) and 1 could even be sold. Hardly the same as buying 25 afcon players is it? ( whic is entirely realistic versus the current situation )




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14 Jun 2017 11:32:24
Stupid argument. It's 18 months away. Mane could have been sold by then. Both could be injured for 6 months from August for all we know. What I do know is you don't not sign players for fear of losing them for 4 weeks in 18 months time. A minor hamstring could do that. Or is the solution to boycott sigining an entire continents' players on that basis. Ridiculous.




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09 Jun 2017 11:46:17
dec, Bayern have Ribery and robben as first choice wingers. both are in their 30's and id be surprised if either was still there in 12 months - he will get opps in their system.




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09 Jun 2017 08:45:11
they get Neymar to get in coutinhos ear instead.


{Ed002's Note - Which would be tapping up if the club requested the player to do it.}



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09 Jun 2017 08:25:02
*but he's not.





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19 Jul 2017 05:54:34
Got our players of the season 1 year and were it not for injuries would have got at least another under his belt if not more.




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18 Jul 2017 13:21:09
Swear to god it was Ed, I was hoping to find the 'Russian brides' link.


{Ed025's Note - love it swish..



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18 Jul 2017 13:40:52
How many of their signing would make a top 4 team? None. They've lost the guy who scored half their goals. I can see them finishing lower than last year.




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18 Jul 2017 12:06:28
I've accidently clicked on 'Thai brides' whilst on this site at work. Raised a few eyebrows when I got back to me desk and realized I didn't have the screen saver come up.


{Ed025's Note - accidental my arse.. :)



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16 Jul 2017 14:42:35
Don't think anyone would be paying money for that Novel MK! :)