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06 Apr 2018 15:29:10
I’ve never commented on any other site other than ours, just popped on to man utd site and they seem to think pogba is worth more than 160mil cos that what Mbappe sold for. Have I lost my mind or is something Amiss here? I couldn’t see anyone paying the 90 mil they paid for him let alone more.

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1.) 06 Apr 2018 16:05:53
I wouldn't pay over 40m for pogba, decent player but so far hasn't been anything special. he still has the potential though plus he's got a good physical side to his game but i just don't see it working out for him in the prem, he needs to go to a league which is slower paced i think. He stood out in italy but bang average in the prem.

Utd as usual will probably lose money on him if sold, they already sold him once for 5m was it? Even the Sanchez on a free is costing them obscene wages and so far he's looked very poor. it's their speciality remember depay! makes the firmino transfer look like a bank robbery ;)


2.) 06 Apr 2018 16:12:34
man utd still think they are a power house club that everyone wants to play for, they are not neither is jose a manager everyone wants to play for. problem is both are used to being exactly that and have not adapted to the fact this is no longer Sir Alex Fergusons man utd but a pale imitation.


3.) 06 Apr 2018 17:09:57
Pogba is special not used properly.


4.) 06 Apr 2018 17:40:44
I would sign Pogba for about 40m and make him part of the midfield rotation, not the focal point. Why? Cos that was his role at Juve with Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio as those doing the business and made him play his game. Such a player should NOT be anywhere near being worth even 45m.

{Ed004's Note - Pogba would go for atleast double that if not treble that. Bar De Gea he's the best player in the team that's sitting second in the league. He can't be all that bad}


5.) 06 Apr 2018 17:58:40
The Ox is better than Pogba 🤝.


6.) 06 Apr 2018 19:56:17
pogba makes joe allen look world class. :)


7.) 06 Apr 2018 20:07:58
Ed 04 is that sarcasm?

{Ed004's Note - Is what sarcasm? You'll find a lot of Utd fans that will say he's our best outfield player. He's had a poor few months but carried us at the start of the season.}


8.) 06 Apr 2018 20:42:28
Teams will pay a premium for pogba because of wuaat he CAN do.


9.) 06 Apr 2018 21:02:39
Pogba is an absolute beast of a player being horribly misused at Utd in my opinion. People saying he’s a bad player should realise that. This said, even playing under Mourinho stifling style you would expect a little better from him than he has recently been but every player has down days. All this said though, I certainly don’t see anyone paying more than what Utd paid for him again, unless of course Mourinho goes and he gets used properly and is allowed to showcase his real and obvious talent.

{Ed025's Note - he has talent westwood thats not in question, what is in question is his heart, application and commitment mate..


10.) 06 Apr 2018 21:16:49
Half of his value is based on his media and marketing profile. Even in the current climate, I can't see United making a profit on him.
Ed004 is correct in that Pogba was a standout performer in the first half a dozen or so games when United were more positive and scoring goals. Since October, De Gea has been the player carrying the rest of the team. If Pogba had the mentality of players from a previous era, then he may well be one of the standout players in Europe.


11.) 06 Apr 2018 21:28:35
The ox comment made me laugh Ron :)


12.) 06 Apr 2018 21:24:45
I like pogba as a player. To be honest, if milner, lalana, can are leaving, grucic not ready. Hendo, pogbba and Keira with the ox and wijneindum. With the academy players. That would do me:-)


13.) 06 Apr 2018 21:29:17
Pogba was offered to Man city in January. Pep has confirmed it in the presser.


14.) 06 Apr 2018 22:54:04
Ed04, Pogba is already worth double 45m (he was bought for 89m rising to over 100m) and he is still playing crap cos the who was bought for that amount. His talent is not in question, like you say. It is everything else like his heart and determination as well as being used by a clueless manager who only knows how to destroy players (unlike his past) just to suit his way of playing which is like watching paint dry.

I watched Pogba a lot in Serie A and he played on the left of a midfield 3 (in a 3-5-2 formation under Conte) and then on the left of a 4-4-2 diamond under Allegri and those were his best years. He was not THE guy pulling strings cos that was Pirlo's role. Pogba was part of the supporting cast with Vidal, Marchisio etc. and that worked for him. You cannot compare those top players to the likes of even Matic, Mata and the McTominay's of this world. That is just a fact of life. Mou is trying to make him what he is not, at least not yet and that I'm afraid, is the problem. Pogba was never a leader at Juve. He was just one of the lieutenants and that was it.


15.) 07 Apr 2018 13:23:33
2 things about Pogba. He cares more about his image than Man Utd and leading on from that, if he played for a more expansive team we'd see a whole different Pogba. He's got all the ingredients but Jose can't bake them right pie for him.


 

 

05 Apr 2018 13:17:51
Amazing result last night! well worth waking up at 4.30 in australia to watch it. boss was even pleased i managed to make it to work on time for once too.

gutted about hendo missing the next game - he chased everything down last night. Not sure about this but Jesus got a yellow and was carrying one from the basel game so he should miss the return leg too? 5 other city players are also carrying yellows -gundogan, sterling, otamendi, fernandinho and de bruyne. they will need to tread carefully against us.

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1.) 05 Apr 2018 13:46:27
Jesus was not carrying a yellow, his CL yellow was in the group stage and that's been wiped clean now. I also doubt they will be any more careful against us - Pep will tell them in no uncertain terms that if someone needs to take a yellow to make sure we don't put the tie out of sight, then do it. They have a massive squad, they can take a suspension.


2.) 05 Apr 2018 14:01:19
You’re right hjikle ( about the yellow) and agree to a certain degree but as a player I’m sure it would still play on your mind. one late challenge and they miss the next game. 6 first teamters on yellows ( 5 if Jesus is dropped for Aguero)


3.) 05 Apr 2018 18:56:26
Spot on, Hijkle. City as Ed01 said, often commit fouls up the pitch when they lose it to stop the opposition from hitting them on the break as their defenders as a group or unit, are crap. Be sure that they will do it again next week.


4.) 05 Apr 2018 20:33:23
The city players should be more focused on getting to the next round aye? I mean they could not get a second yellow but also not get into the semis anyways haha.


 

 

21 Jan 2018 09:10:12
Not necessarily Liverpool but I heard in the past some players had in their contract they were always to be the highest earning player- should someone come in on more cash they were entitled to an increase ( the Darren Anderton/ Allan sugar story springs to mind) does this still occur at clubs?

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{Ed002's Note - Not any longer.}


1.) 21 Jan 2018 09:32:45
Thanks for the reply, I thought the likes of Messi or Ronaldo perhaps still had these clauses.

{Ed002's Note - They don't need clauses like that.}


 

 

22 Dec 2017 08:11:58
Not necessarily Liverpool related but would love to hear about people’s live sports experiences. Best game for atmosphere for me at Anfield was beating Chelsea when smicer volleyed the winner- thought the roof would fall off! .

Best game outside of that was in the away section when independiente beat Boca juniors 4-3 away. Unbelievably intense experience but mass jubilation!

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1.) 22 Dec 2017 09:16:04
My most memorable Anfield atmosphere, 26 November 1985, League Cup, (I have still got the ticket stub), a 2-1 win over Man Utd. The roof nearly came off.

If the UTD 'keeper (Gary Bailey I think) had managed to get in the way of Molby's equalizer it would have killed him stone dead!


2.) 22 Dec 2017 09:24:08
I watched Bournemouth beat Rushden and Diamonds 3-0 in League 2 many years ago.

The manager spent the whole game shouting at the ref and i was sat behind two very respectable looking blokes in their 80's (at least) who suddenly piped up and started shouting dogs abuse at the manager. It was absolutely hilarious and for me it summed up the passion of football. It even turns the old codgers into hooligans at times 😂.


3.) 22 Dec 2017 10:58:32
Villarreal v Atletico back in 2009. Unbelievable atmosphere with some top quality displays on show that game especially Marcos Senna performance. Game ended 4-4.


4.) 22 Dec 2017 12:23:23
Liverpool wise the Dortmund game, best game I've been too was when my local team Hibernian won the Scottish cup for the first time in 113 years 😊.


5.) 22 Dec 2017 13:22:09
Paris 1981 European Cup final v Real Madrid for me, I was only 10 and couldn't believe I was there, what a night.


6.) 22 Dec 2017 13:44:37
I have been lucky enough to see us beat the likes of Everton, Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal on numerous occasions although I have never seen us lift a trophy live. (don’t class the charity shield as a trophy)
I went on both Chelsea champions league semis, first one was the best experience I have had at a sporting event, the jubilation after the final whistle was amazing, the biggest high I have ever had at a live sporting event.
The Dortmund quarter final was probably the best live game I have seen, unbelievable comeback but because of the occasion the Chelsea game tops it.


7.) 22 Dec 2017 13:45:38
Dortmund vs Bayern the other week for me. Been to Anfield a few times but never for a massive game. But the noise and sights at Dortmund was incredible.

{Ed007's Note - I'd recommend everyone goes to a German match at least once in their lives. I've been to a few Dortmund games over the years as well as St Pauli matches which are just plain crazy at times.}


8.) 22 Dec 2017 16:01:32
Went to an England game a few years back it was amazing! Never slept so well in my life!


9.) 22 Dec 2017 16:40:52
Went to a Colombia international played at Craven Cottage (could have been against Switzerland) . The ground was 99% colombia fans. I couldn’t hear myself think the noise was so loud throughout the whole game. The fans were more patriots than football fans. They were cheering and chanting the players for just being Colombian. I’ve never experienced something so different to an England game.


 

 

01 Sep 2017 18:08:21
Well it's been almost 24 hours since the window closed and I'm looking for suggestions.

We've only addressed our full back positions with a promising Robertson, an improved Moreno and TAA looking very good. bought in salah ( who looks as useless as mane) and brought one of England's brightest prospects who's still young enough to improve. Oh, also kept our best player of the last couple of years despite huge bids)
( I'm hoping the club sees sense so let's him stay in the reserves for 5 years- otherwise why would they turn down 140mil for him)

So my question is whose house can I can go to and protest outside of and burn effigies of? I need to take this out on the club and FSG cos every error is down to them. The team looks crap and sneaked a lucky win against Arsenal. I'm so depressed I think I should support chelseas or Arsenal looking how they are set up for the season.

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1.) 01 Sep 2017 18:15:58
Haha. is this post a wind up! 😂.


2.) 01 Sep 2017 18:27:15
Statto I think we can safely say it is sarcasm. He's just pointing out how everything is over because we didn't sign one player. Let's forget about this season and all the quality players we have.


3.) 01 Sep 2017 18:28:42
I forgot to mention that we have also secured one of the worlds most highly rated upcoming midfielders for next year. Pathetic. FSG Should have offered 300 mil and got him this year. Money grows on trees in most countries.


4.) 01 Sep 2017 18:43:35
Brilliant post Swish.


5.) 01 Sep 2017 18:54:54
Now, that's sarcasm.


6.) 01 Sep 2017 18:55:44
I agree Swish, we messed up and clearly FSG are to blame and need to go ASAP. What could've been our best transfer window ever turned out to be one of the worst.


7.) 01 Sep 2017 18:27:15
Statto I think we can safely say it is sarcasm. He's just pointing out how everything is over because we didn't sign one player. Let's forget about this season and all the quality players we have.


8.) 01 Sep 2017 20:55:43
i appreciate the sarcasm but bloody hell you must be bored.


9.) 02 Sep 2017 06:30:52
Liners, I was bored- of all the moaning about what a terrible window we had. Personally I think we look a much stronger team/ squad than last year and we can't undertestimate the natural improvement we're seeing in some players ( as well as the new signings)


 

 

 

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11 May 2018 07:57:44
been a lot of chat on most of these in the posts.

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22 Apr 2018 14:12:06
Ed, that’s pretty disrespectful to the beano!

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23 Mar 2018 09:55:10
They are a dirty team when it comes to us. every time we play them they are always trying to take out our best players ( and usually succeed with at least one) at least Barkley is gone, he was one of their worst offenders.

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01 Mar 2018 12:03:55
Yep. Let’s ignore who the manager wants and go for someone else. That would make a lot of sense lol.

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23 Feb 2018 12:32:35
Young talent like VVD? What sell in value will he have. That policy is a myth. 31 is still relatively young for a keeper . Usually their prime.

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25 May 2018 14:10:41
its our last game of the season, i don't think we'll be taking players off to rest them unless they are totally spent.

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24 May 2018 10:15:10
good deal eds? i think i also recall this wasn't a very ethical company to be associated with though that could be another sponsor they were referring to?

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21 May 2018 13:41:41
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18 May 2018 12:22:50
capellos was a good coach but went downhill when he took over england. boring manager, boring football. took those well honed skills to russia, did the same and then on to china i think and also got sacked. that's his last 10 years. would you employ him!?

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05 May 2018 08:06:13
Cobra De Gea, their player of the season for a 4th time. That’s why they’re second. When utd dominated and they had it schemeichel in goal I don’t think he ever won that award.

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