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11 Dec 2017 07:51:00
Regardless of decisions that went against us, unless klopp is attempting to intimidate future refs to think twice about what wrath they'll face from him, I really think the man should have taken the result with a little more grace. He's the manager of a great club. It's our job to lose the head and curse and complain and feel aggrieved. It's his to rise above it, control the emotions and inspire the team onto the next game. Personally, I thought it was a strange starting line up particularly with Milner and solanke and whilst it didn't work, it's still a draw when we could have fallen further behind united. Onwards to the next game.

aoe

1.) 11 Dec 2017 08:31:43
You would have preferred he shrugged, smiled and said que sera sera?


2.) 11 Dec 2017 09:21:09
Klopp is a great manager and I love his passion for the game, he takes no crap, didn't the rich man's Pullis ask City to stop celebrating, the guy is an idiot.


3.) 11 Dec 2017 09:29:42
No but in England if u show any sign of sour grapes the media hype it up an then sky get involved and the whole thing gets stained on the manager look wat happened too benitez when we nearly won the league, we got some negative results benitez got frustrated live on TV and the rest was history, never show your hand I say l.


4.) 11 Dec 2017 11:23:10
I'm all for passion, I just think a little restraint is in order. Mocking and challenging a sly reporter before marching off disrespectfully is another thing entirely. My point was that I wished he held himself up to a higher standard particularly when facing such a beast as sly sports news. I know it's difficult right after a match when emotions are high but as hailstones suggested with Benitez, sly will build it up and rerun the interview again and again much to the delight of our rivals. I'm fairly certain klopp has woken up this morning and thought that a wry grin and an icy glare when asked about the official, may have been enough.

{Ed001's Note - he did not march off disrespectfully, he apologised to the reporter in full before he left the interview.}


5.) 11 Dec 2017 12:10:51
Was he not being facetious, with his final words? As he apologised to the studio and turned to the reporter and offered the same apology and left while the reporter was saying something? If I'm wrong, totally my bad. And if his apology was sincere then I've been a little harsh.

{Ed001's Note - he was apologising sincerely, he knew he had allowed himself to be pushed into saying the wrong thing.}


6.) 11 Dec 2017 12:20:14
Yeah I watched it back there ed. you are right, he was genuine at the end like you said, probably realised he got pushed. My mistake. Cue-genuine apology. Sorry!

{Ed001's Note - no worries, I am sure they didn't edit the interview on TV to make it clear.}


 

 

28 Nov 2017 18:17:50
Cue the outrage- I know he was a disaster off the pitch for us with his antics and foolishness with diet pills but with all the misery amid centre backs and overrated purchases, anyone think we could have handled sakho better. I say this because yep, he really had/ has problems but as a player I feel we would have been far better this season with him at the back if he was fit. Just seems that klopp had enough with his attitude- fair enough but is klopp not supposed to be an excellent man manager? Could he not have worked with the lad. Personally before the pills fiasco, I was a huge fan. He was certainly ungainly in appearance but read the game far better than what we have for us know. This isn't knocking klopp- I just wonder where we'd be if he'd handled things differently.

aoe

1.) 28 Nov 2017 18:39:17
sakho has lot of passion, big heart, i like him, but he lacks capacity. he lost his mind very often, and we need someone like Carragher, Hippya. A tough CB who can defend, organize his players, and brave against strikers.
I hope Van Dijk or someone better than him comes in january, and most important, this team NEEDS a Defensive Midfielder. Because of this is why our CB´s aren't good enough. They need support. Neither Henderson, Can, are DM. hopefully Goretzka can come in january. saludos.


2.) 28 Nov 2017 18:42:47
I have to say I agree with you, but I would go a bit further tbh. He is way better than all of our CB's and I find it hard to imagine exactly what he must have done to be sent packing like that. Surely it can't just be for being late a few times and such. If we were mown out with good cb's then fair enough, but we have been kind of desperate in that department, partly because Klopp banished him.

I hope there is some other reason for the whole saga, cus from where I am sat it's like having a porsche in the garage but choosing to cycle to work in the rain.


3.) 28 Nov 2017 20:13:10
I think you're suffering from a case of lusting after that you don't have.
Sakho was no better than what we have currently. people really forgot how terrible he was, but again I think it becomes more about fans looking for any alternative rather than the right choice.

In terms of being an excellent man manager, it doesn't mean that Klopp has some kind of magic wand that turns around every relationship he has. Sakho was here for ages before he was cut, maybe the wick ran dry. for me, if it gets to that point then fair play to klopp and co.


4.) 28 Nov 2017 21:35:09
Klopp won't tolerate any player with a big ego or bigger than him .


5.) 28 Nov 2017 23:12:01
Happy and OP, Klopp has an ego. So what? You think Pep and Mou and Wenger don't? But it's ok for them to have one and not be challenged BUT Klopp should not? Nonsense. Tell me, so you are fine with a player who continues to disrespect the manager's orders, turns up to meetings and meals late, causes unrest in the DR and trashing the manager on social media? If that is fine with you then okay. Klopp does not have to ascribe to any of that nonsense. Also, take this from a Sahko fan. He is NOT as good as many think he is and NEVER was. He was part of the defence that conceded 150 goals in his 3 seasons here and unlike your Klopp gave him ample chances to redeem himself by asking him to go out on loan to get games at Stoke and WBA BUT he refused and chose to stay w/ the U23's.

For someone who was in the dog house, he showed no remorse for his actions and took no responsibility for them. Had he knuckled down and did a Moreno, he's prolly still be here. That is HIS fault and no one else's.


6.) 28 Nov 2017 23:19:22
Sakho was better than what we have, but not by much. Whatever he did he must regret it as I doubt he’ll play for a top club again. Shame.


7.) 28 Nov 2017 23:23:04
Nick, we know what happened btw Klopp and Sahko as the Ed's kept us informed. So sick and tired of people always taking the players' side of things. It is for the same pathetic reasoning that many would still take Suarez back even tho in some way, he cost KK his job and dragged ours and his name thru the gutter BUT it's okay cos he can can play. Aubameyang is giving BVB hell on a daily basis and they are fed up with him. Do you want him too?

Sahko was an unrepentant and un-remorseful bell and got exactly what his shameless actions deserved. For me, it is not the dumb things he was doing. It was the fact that he was doing them in public and showed no intention of mending his ways and trying to make it back onto the manager's good graces. Klopp is a strict disciplinarian and does not take crap from anyone who continuously disrespects him on social media and flouts his orders and why should he? To please an average CB who is as error prone as the rest of them? Pep, Poch, Wenger and Fergie get hailed for their discipline BUT everything changes when it is Klopp, right?

If people like Sahko so much (and they talk like he was Paolo Maldini or some crap) then Palace and their fan base will be happy to have you. I commend Klopp for dealing w/ Shko appropriately cos we cannot have such players causing havoc in the DR.


8.) 29 Nov 2017 06:46:04
Sakho was captain at PSG. He had issues with his attitude there and got sold to LFC. He had attitude problem with Rodgers and was on the verge of being bombed out at LFC.
Then Klopp came and gave him another chance. He took it and played well, he was our best defender for a while.
Then he failed a drugs test and was left out of the side for some key matches. He was exonerated after UEFA admitted they had messed up and the drug wasn't on their banned list - it was on WADA.
Then Sakho turned up late for the pre-season tour and apparently had attitude problems on the tour.

I'm sorry, blaming Klopp and saying he could have handled it better is burying your head in the sand. Like Ballotelli, these are talented players who are totally unmanageable and will not bring you sustained success at a club.
Good luck to Sakho at Palace, but I can't see him staying there long term.


9.) 29 Nov 2017 10:44:48
Ron, whilst I agree with your general point summarised at the end - what Klopp did do was make selling Sakho very difficult, getting our asking price for him even more so and turning a character who was a clown behind the scenes into a media circus. Should the outcome have been different? Probably not. But that doesn't mean the road Klopp took to the outcome was the best one avaliable.


10.) 29 Nov 2017 13:44:21
Hijkle, I disagree. If anyone made it a media circus, it was Sahko. It was not Klopp who was mouthing off on social media, doing that dis respectful handshake with Benteke (who can do what he likes as he was no longer an LFC player) while being an LFC player nor playing pranks when Klopp was doing a presser in the States on tour. This was all Sahko and Klopp had to act as Sahko had put him on blast publicly so he had to comment on things when asked. Klopp had nothing to do with it. The road Klopp took to getting rid of Sahko is the one Sahko chose all by himself. It is ALL his fault.


 

 

06 Oct 2017 23:33:45
England stroll to another tournament where inevitably they'll crash out in a blaze of disappointment. Anybody think if they weren't seeded so high for a tournament they'd spend two years preparing properly for competitive football and be a little more of a force? Perhaps facing real quality international teams during the qualifiers would increase the national interest as well- maybe I'm getting old but growing up in the eighties and nineties there was a far greater interest in international football. Now, I'm Irish so I don't really mind and getting to the tournament is a major lift for the entire country but for the English fans who crave a big tournament win it might be something to think on.

aoe

1.) 07 Oct 2017 10:30:24
The thing is England are just not that good, we are probably a second tier team so have only a small chance of ever winning a tournament.
The media whips the whole country into a frenzy as well so everyone has unrealistic expectations.


2.) 07 Oct 2017 10:57:50
England will screw up the same way they have done since Euro 96. That is the simple fact. Pretty sure that the way England was embarrassed at the last Euros is not the lowest it can get to (tho they did not make it out of the group in Brazil either but I digress) . I am pretty confident that they can get lower than that.


3.) 07 Oct 2017 12:19:35
I think when you are never challenged it's easy to settle for mediocrity until a tournament shows up and sucker punches you. South Americans have amazing competition over the qualifiers. Not to mention the copa America format. I think Ireland n Ireland and Wales performed well at last euros because they'd killed themselves trying to qualify and kept that mentality going into the tournament. I think as long as England don't have to battle Portugal France Spain Holland or Belgium etc for one spot, they'll never get out of first gear and crumble under the expectation.


4.) 07 Oct 2017 12:20:03
England has had one good manager in 25 years and that was Terry Venables.

Managing England is not like managing a club side. You have to be tactically astute but we've had managers like that. The other thing that hardly any England manager realises is the pressure the players are under. Venables realised it and Bobby Robson did too. Foreign managers don't get it. Non-foreign managers (English) don't know how to deal with it because they're not very good.

Spain suffered for decades with the same problem. Venables solved it with a master stroke before euro 96. He sent them on an overseas tour (against Thailand 😄) pre tournament. The match was terrible - usual English rubbish. But the master stroke was letting the players go wild afterwards. The press SLAUGHTERED the players calling them useless (they were against Thailand) and irresponsible yobs- the dentists chair episode.

Expectation immediately hit rock bottom and the players now had nothing to lose. No-one expected them to achieve anything. Some even said we should forfeit the tournament. The players then gave the Dutch a footballing lesson, knocked out Spain and were inches away from knocking out winners Germany in extra time in the semis.


5.) 07 Oct 2017 12:56:18
So England’s Problem from decades is not having a good manager Ron? A group of medicore players who are like feeder club to PL clubs!


6.) 07 Oct 2017 13:43:30
Ron, I agree whole-heartedly with your post. However, your history of Euro 96 is missing a couple of details. England made a right muck of the first game vs the Swiss then coached by. Roy Hodgson and were lucky to get a draw vs them when Kubilay canceled out Shearer's opener. The boys then went into the game vs Scotland right up against it and tho they led via Shearer, had the verr reliable Gary Mac not missed his penalty, not sure they make it out of that game with 3 points as the fans were already on top of them.

They did handle the Dutch very well BUT vs Spain again, they were awful and had the penalty been given when Alfonso was fouled in the box, not sure they win that quarter final either. Vs Germany, they were very unlucky and that game is one my all time favorite games ever, the sort of games int'l football of today will NEVER give you. It was breathless.

I was just pointing out that that England team and TV were under the sort of pressure that this England team would quite simply crumble under and it was NEVER smooth-sailing for them throughout the tourney. They did pull thru tho and that is commendable in itself.


7.) 07 Oct 2017 15:15:34
You forgot Euro 96 was in England Ron. I'm sure that helped.


8.) 07 Oct 2017 17:50:32
Actually aoe I don't think it does help as the expectation is higher.

My point is the managers need to have a tactic for lowering expectation and pressure. Foreign managers don't get it until it's too late, English managers aren't good enough.


9.) 07 Oct 2017 19:02:09
I absolutely do get your point but I really do think any home team has a huge advantage. Dare I say 1966? I think if the pressure was the reason, how do England not buckle under the pressure of qualification? I really think there are far better teams in Europe that deserve to be seeded as high as they are. I think England is cursed by under performing yet still qualifying and keeping their place as top seed in every tournament. I think (and I may be wrong) that after the 2018 World Cup they are changing it up or at least reviewing it. Perhaps that may be the difference the team needs. For my sake, let's hope not eh 😜.


10.) 07 Oct 2017 20:49:22
I would suggest Hoddle could have bern good before his comments. He played a decent brand of football and appeared to have the backing of the players but your point remains Ron.


11.) 07 Oct 2017 21:37:53
That's true, at the time hoddle seemed to be doing everything right and then the ridiculous comments kind of ruined it all.


 

 

14 Sep 2017 08:47:41
Seriously lads, it was a draw, put the knives away and support the team. I'm not entirely sure a new defender would fix the problems we have anyhow and besides, we are stuck with what we have for now until at least January- we all know there were dreadful errors made in the window. Do we need to keep going on about it. If these same problems persist as the season goes on and klopp makes no changes, then perhaps we've earned the right to holler from the highest peaks. As it is, we are thrilling to watch going forward. Klopp has obviously been working on beating teams who put men behind the ball. If we can get a little consistency and perhaps confidence at the back, who knows how far we can go.

aoe

1.) 14 Sep 2017 09:08:30
Mate I'm not being funny but it's the same old same old, week in week out
Month after month been going on for way too long now really fed up and tbh I think our attacking players are getting fed up of the shambles behind them
Really really frustrating starting to lose faith in klopp and don't even care what anyone has to say.
How we didn't buy a cb in the summer is beyond belief.


2.) 14 Sep 2017 12:10:46
Ravinroge, you don't just buy a CB for the fun of it. That is just nonsense and the main reason we had so many poor players on the books for years. Klopp wanted Lovren replaced and went for VVD all in. He also went for Koulibaly but did not pursue that route further. If a CB does not improve us, why buy him? For the sake of saying, "Look we bought a CB". If he does not think he is good enuff, he won't be bought and that is the reality and I agree with that.

Oh BTW, what will you say when this new CB makes a mistake? Will you be on his back? Football is not an exact science in this area. The only thing you can do is to do your homework and get all the info you need on a player and then roll the dice. Nothing more.


3.) 14 Sep 2017 16:16:21
Bingo you must be deluded if you think there's not a single centre back in the world other than van dijk who can improve our squad instead of matip lovren or klavan
Who said buy for the sake of it? How isit buying for the fun when it's blatant that's what we need?
Ok then so what your saying is just continue with our defence and hope our defence just improves, sorry mate ain't gunna happen end of.
And I can guarantee where still in this same position until there replaced.


4.) 14 Sep 2017 16:56:06
I think we didn't get a defender cos we (and klopp) broke the rules and hadn't the money to sway Southampton, but I stick with my point. I'm not sure vvd comes in and fixes everything. I think the problems are deeper seeded. I think it's down to sorting set pieces and offering cover for a nervous back four in open play. I agree it's frustrating to watch the same problems pop up a little too frequently but we are where we are.

I'm not saying klopp is above criticism- I do however think it's a little early for such heavy criticism. I also think it's important to support the team when they win, lose and even draw against a decent Spanish team.


 

 

05 Sep 2017 18:57:17
Just a question, I know he's in the cl squad but means very little but is there high hopes for masterson at all or just a hg selection.

aoe

1.) 05 Sep 2017 19:44:46
I remember during the midseason camp in Spain last year where the injured, youth and non-internationals trained Klopp singled out Brewster, Dhanda (whose contract runs out at the end of the season, we should tie him up) and Masterson who impressed him the most.


 

 

 

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16 Dec 2017 12:20:41
I think it’s a good league for spotting potential but that seems about it. I could be wrong but was it not a lot stronger about 20 years ago when great players were emerging from it? I still raise a hopeful eyebrow anytime I hear us linked with a Ajax starlet.

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13 Dec 2017 08:03:55
Nice to see Suso linked with such a big transfer. Was a huge fan of his and great to see it finally working out for him in Milan. Could never understand why Rogers never gave him a chance. He always had the look of a great little player whenever I saw him. Wonderful vision.

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27 Nov 2017 17:40:50
He looks anything but committed at the club unfortunately. A deal done swiftly before the beginning of December deadline would be beneficial to all at this point.

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17 Nov 2017 17:13:03
Totally agree mango. I think the point was that he enjoyed himself and likely doesn't regret too much. I think that's what benny was alluding to.

aoe

{Ed001's Note - I doubt it, I am sure he regrets not winning more trophies. You can enjoy yourself and work hard, plenty have done in the past.}


 

 

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17 Nov 2017 16:19:17
He's just a different type of legend.

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18 Dec 2017 12:46:28
Great review ed and I completely agree about ox in the interview. An absolute touch of class to help coutinho in a sticky moment.

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16 Dec 2017 16:42:14
Fair enough brover- I should probably state that the word arrogance wasn't meant in a completely negative way- merely confidence in how badly Everton have been- as a manager I think there should be a certain amount of arrogance when making hard decisions. It wasn't a knock on klopp- but playing the team he played was in my view a mistake. These things happen and I hope he learns. I think the frustration for his team selection was in him playing key players for the full 90 against a battered team midweek instead of subbing them for the derby. Again, I hope he learns. I'm very much of the opinion that if they're fit to be on the bench, they're fit to start. I think if you are rotating, it should be two to three players at a time and be clever with substitutions- especially when there's a massive massive game to come.

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16 Dec 2017 12:35:28
Sam is extremely skilled at what he does. It’s not actual football, it’s something far far uglier but his job is not to earn trophies. It’s to help a club avoid relegation and there is no better manager out there in my mind who can do it. Short term, he has saved a sinking ship but I feel bad for Everton fans who have to endure a dreadful two seasons of his (ahem) brand of football- as bad as they are, nobody deserves that. As for klopp not playing his strongest team, I respect bringing in Solanke but there was no worse game to start. Perhaps klopp was arrogant enough to believe we’d bowl them over with a “weakened” team. It’s disappointing but hopefully he’ll learn and never do it again. I worry more about Ron- we need someone to remind us it’ll all be alright when it’s all going wrong. Perhaps Harry could step in for the moment with a little positivity?

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15 Dec 2017 15:13:16
At this point I'd love the kids to be given a couple years to develop as a team In the hope that we'd improve season on season, not to mention our finances would start improving. That said, it would simply never happen for many many reasons but throwing money at our deficiencies hasn't brought us great success.

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14 Dec 2017 16:53:04
Ed2 got us covered with the sharkopod.

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