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28 Apr 2017 19:40:10
Just a quick question for ed01 if your around? Just wondered, with Liverpools lack of quality at the back for the last few years, did you ever have interest in Bailly? I think we've made a very good signing there. At 22 I think he can go in to become one of the best CB in the world. With you playing Villarreal last year etc was any interest ever shown in him from LFC? And do you rate the lad?



{Ed001's Note - no interest that I am aware of. I believe he was considered to be too raw and it might be a risk to get him with his lack of Prem (and overall) experience. Big mistake in my opinion as he is an excellent defender. Now he is back to full fitness after his injury, he has been outstanding for you at the back again.}

1.) 28 Apr 2017 20:38:52
This is the Liverpool page you may what to ask on the united page 😂.

{Ed025's Note - whats your problem?, guys like stand and others post on various sites and live chats and is very welcome, dont be so insular mate..

2.) 28 Apr 2017 21:03:45
Reason I asked on here was because I was wondering if Liverpool showed interest.

Ed, I agree, considering the seasons been a bit stop start with ACON and a couple of injuries, every time he has played he's been outstanding. Looks the real deal. Need to find him a partner now.

{Ed001's Note - don't worry Stand, I understood why you asked here. Excellent player, who has years to grow as a player as well.}

3.) 28 Apr 2017 22:18:32
Give Origi a chance was clearly joking. After all, most times the Eds say the very same thing.

4.) 29 Apr 2017 01:06:19
I associate with some good Salford Utd supporters.

I tell everyone but them that I hate the team they're associated with, only to associate with them with a massive mutual respect.

I think the hatred and malice lasts for ninety minutes a time, with an occasional half hour of fisticuffs for the thick ones.

I think I've come to the conclusion that ALL of us football fans are in fact pure helmets, especially Utd reserves due to move adjacent to the royal blue Mersey.

5.) 29 Apr 2017 01:20:46
United did pay a hefty fee for him, certainly raised my eye brows at the time. Can understand why we never got involved at that price. Could work out to be a bargain but that's the risk with football players.

6.) 28 Apr 2017 22:21:11
Ed 25, I think most of us have the sense to know Stand is welcome on our page.

I think Origi's post was a bit tounge in cheek.

Ed002 " try the European page"
" try the Chelsea page"
Etc etc.

That's how I read it anyway . 😳.

{Ed025's Note - i hope so nicky mate..

7.) 28 Apr 2017 23:12:38
Ed it's banter lad I feel you did not get the joke.

{Ed025's Note - sorry if i was not with the programme there origi, i will try harder in the future mate.. :)

8.) 29 Apr 2017 02:29:50
Ed25 misses banter every now and then!

{Ed025's Note - i do you know faith and i hold my hands up, its a sign of getting old mate..




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01 May 2017 20:45:58
Well well well, a few disgruntled on here yesterday bemoaning Rashfords dive. Lucas just didn't his very own Tom Daley impression.


1.) 01 May 2017 20:49:43
No excuse for it stand united. Think they should copy Scotland with a ban for anyone found diving.

2.) 01 May 2017 20:53:51
How many times has Lucas been accused of such tactic? Rashford? For me the only way it stops is if retrospective 3 game ban for those that our found guilty of diving, goes for all players.

3.) 01 May 2017 20:56:53
Totally agree only way its going to stop it.

4.) 01 May 2017 21:08:27
Agreed mate. 3 game ban for diving, can't stand it.

5.) 01 May 2017 21:10:16
Difference is though rashford got away with it.

6.) 01 May 2017 21:21:13
Except Rashford finished it off with the customary feigning an injury.

7.) 01 May 2017 21:24:31
Lavers so diving fine as long as you get a yellow? Makes it any less cheating does it?

8.) 01 May 2017 21:31:04
No, diving should be a straight red card in my eyes to try and stamp it out.

The only problem is that some players have it down to a fine art and get away with it (I don't mead either)

9.) 01 May 2017 22:00:05
i agree with retrospective ban. put a bit of twist on it as well, get the ref to ask him if he dived or if that was a pen. atleast the player will either get the pen and 3 game ban after if he lied, and booking if he admits to diving.

10.) 01 May 2017 22:16:20
Think that's a cracking suggestion Kaiser, if the player admits it then no action to be taken, ref doesn't then give a penalty away, would help keep the game honest as no incentive to cheat, until any incentive or reward for cheating is removed then unfortunately it will continue.

11.) 02 May 2017 08:00:19
Rashford will dive through out his career as he is a striker. That's the very first time Lucas has dived in 10 years!



30 Apr 2017 14:04:24
And as I posted earlier in the week top 4 is a certainty for you, and that confirms it. Done and dusted imo.


1.) 30 Apr 2017 14:13:26
Wise up Stand. You expected to win that match, no doubt about it which would have put you above Liverpool. Who do you think you are? Fergie with his mind games?

2.) 30 Apr 2017 14:15:42
We still have 4 hard games with teams that will sit deep, your not gone yet.

3.) 30 Apr 2017 14:32:04
On paper we should win it given the games left, but we still have to go out there and do it so anything is possible - we've shown we're vulnerable enough on the counter and against set pieces to not take anything for granted.

4.) 30 Apr 2017 14:42:10
On paper if we had won the games we "should have" we would be challenging for the league title. We have 4 very difficult games coming up, 4 cup finals! Let's not get sucked into any nonsense that its done and dusted. This is Liverpool football club, we don't make it easy for ourselves. One game at a time.

5.) 30 Apr 2017 14:43:53
Hi Stand, I enjoy your visits over here, logical, fair opinions from the dark side.
As a UTD supporter what's your take on Fellini I well know lfc supporters opinion.

6.) 30 Apr 2017 14:49:26
Stand, were do you stand regarding that dubious penalty, a lot of united s goals are dodgy, including the hand ball by Herrera V Chelsea,

7.) 30 Apr 2017 15:14:42
Wasn't an penalty. The handball I don't agree with Hererra didn't move his arm to the ball as was 2 yards away. But it's swings and roundabouts, we've had some shocking desicions, goals disallowed for no reasons etc so you get some and don't get others. It evens out

Fellaini offers something different but isn't good enough to be a United player, but I could say that about a lot of them. Jones, Smalling, Shaw (can't keep fit) , Rooney ( finished 3 years ago) , darmian, young, carrick ( legs gone) , Fellaini should all be moved on in my opinion. Valencia, rojo, Bailly, DDG, Hererra, pog, Martial, miki, rash, Mata are the only ones who I would keep. The rest I wouldn't be arsed losing.

8.) 30 Apr 2017 15:17:31
Our problem is psychological.

We tend to raise or lower our level of performance to the level of the opposing team.

Stand has made some great posts on our pages, he must be wondering what the he'll has happened to his club.

For me the Utd. board have sacrificed the clubs ethos and traditions of trying to win every game they play.

Again this year they will try to buy the title by throwing millions at players to come and play for a coach who actually stifles talented players.

That's always been the special ones way but not the Utd way. till now.

9.) 30 Apr 2017 15:58:21
Fair play Stand, good honest reply, United have some difficult games left to play, anything could happen, its going to be very close finish for top four, every game so important . and Fellaini simply not good enough for a top team .

10.) 30 Apr 2017 18:43:57
I don't think it's as nailed on as that Stand, we've four tough games to get through, but it is in our hands now.



25 Apr 2017 19:39:58
Evening lads, just thought I'd throw my opinion in. I do make regular visits and try to be honest in what I post.

I still think your a certainty for top 4 this season. We still have City, Arsenal and Spurs away, and although we are an impressive 24 games unbeaten, we won't continue that imo. Obviously we also have the distraction of Europe which should now be our priority. You have 4 games left to prepare for, we have 8 if not 9 left. We also have a lot of injuries, the likes of Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Pogba, Ibra, Mata etc. You also have easier fixtures so I think it would be criminal if you didn't make top 4 from here. Having said that, I think although we're behind you in the league, we've overall had a better season, with winning the EFL and a chance of lifting the Europa. For Jose' first season I'm fairly happy. So many of the home games we dominated and ended up drawing cost us our league position this season. I think with another few top additions this summer we will have a really good go next year.

This season you've been able to consentrate and plan for PL matches usually with a week between games. Next war with European football you will find it harder imo, as will cheslea. I personally think we have a better squad than yourselves, and a manager who's tactically superior, and I'd be very surprised if we didn't finish above you next season.

This year tho, its you above us in 4th and 5th although I'd love to be proven wrong, I don't think I will be.


1.) 25 Apr 2017 20:09:16
Fair assessment mate! Hope we nip you to fourth but if you get it only have ourselves to blame.

Would love to wish you best of luck but would be a lie, but do like the non biased assessment and the cross site banter. Also would love to know, think Ibra's proven his quality this season and breathed fresh air into the league with his charisma. But think his injury might be a blessing in disguise as although young think rashford could be ready to take starting role next season.

2.) 25 Apr 2017 20:40:31
UTD will get into the CL by winning the Europa league. They have what 3 games and two Tier 1 teams to play against.

3.) 25 Apr 2017 20:50:25
United should always be above Liverpool and its criminal that they aren't imo. We purchace Klavan, United buy Bailey, we buy Gini (who has done pretty well) and United fork out £90 million on Pogba. They also fork out top wages for Ibra. For that i would be looking top 4. Imagine if Klopp could buy those type of players and didn't get top 4! All hell would break lose on this page.

4.) 25 Apr 2017 21:14:25
Stand United is a decent lad. You're always welcome round here even if you're one of the mob down the road.

5.) 25 Apr 2017 21:20:28
Irish rover post of the year so far.

6.) 25 Apr 2017 21:20:40
Stand, united will spend 3 or4 times what we will spend in the summer, maybe another 90 million player, that's what united have done going back to the time you signed rooney, ferdinand, more or less buying your wins, so for the lesser teams who do much better on a very limited budget, they can and do have a better season sometimes for me .

7.) 25 Apr 2017 21:26:48
Ibra has been immense and I think having him even for one season will have done the likes or Rashford and Martial the world of good. But to be honest I think we're a better side without him and think he hinders our game. We are far more dangerous with either Rashford or Martial down the middle, pace and movement. I think both Rashford and Martial are immense talents. Having said that I would like ibra fit for the bench.

I also don't dismiss the three other sides left in Europa league. Yes we are the best side left in, no doubt about that. But Southampton aren't a better side than Liverpool and won over two legs. Anything can happen in cup competitions.

8.) 25 Apr 2017 22:09:47
Good honest assessment there Stand, I had a beer with one of my United mates at the weekend and our conversation centred on many of your points . We had a similar season last season with good runs in the league cup and Europa although City and Seville were probably tougher opposition than Southampton or Ajax/ Lyon . I do think you'll make the final maybe Ryan Babel will think otherwise lol. Your point about us having easier games in the run in I'm not so sure those are the kind of fixtures we seem to struggle in . Our silver lining could be the fact Arsenal City and United have to play each other.

9.) 25 Apr 2017 22:55:31
Stand - sounds a lot like Benteke tbh. Good player, dangerous goalscorer but to get the best out of him you have to sacrifice the best of half the squad.

10.) 26 Apr 2017 14:26:58
Surely that shows us that by buying the 11 best (dearest) players for their resective positions doesn't necessarily make the best team unit.

Klopp has done well so far in transfers/ value for money. This along with integrating some of the u23s into the first team has been very sucessful.

An overhall of the back 4 starting with lovren is what we should concentrate our efforts this year.

And though I hate to say it that unless Daniel Sturridge miraculously finds some consistent form then he should be replaced as well.

11.) 26 Apr 2017 17:45:23
Great post, Stand and you give a very intelligent assessment of affairs as they Stand (lol) . CL is ours to lose and if we do lose it and you or Arsenal get it via the PL then you would have deserved it and we would have bottled it, royally. We'll see what happens.



15 Apr 2017 10:13:30
Thoughts with Hillsborough connections today



1.) 15 Apr 2017 13:57:37
Stand, knowing you pop over to our site every now and then Stand, I had a feeling you'd come over today.

Nice one fella 👍.

2.) 15 Apr 2017 15:49:12
Footballs just a game Nicky mate. Family and life is more important than any game.

3.) 15 Apr 2017 18:32:40
Fair play Stand .

4.) 15 Apr 2017 18:32:58
Shown down class there stand, well done mate 👍🏻.

5.) 15 Apr 2017 21:17:25
Nice one my good man still hope you get slaughtered by Chelsea though.



27 Feb 2017 23:01:21
This isn't gloating, just to put it out there before I start. This is just constructive opinion from outside.

I can't believe how tactically naive Klopp still is after 18 months in this league. Don't get me wrong he's obviously talented, and when your on it, your brilliant to watch. But time after time he fails to recognise problems during the game and act upon it. Now you can forgive this for a time, but 18 months and he isn't learning his lesson. Going with Lucas tonight, knowing the pace of Vardy, and playing a high line knowing he loves to run off the shoulder of the last defender, was a disaster. And yet he did nothing to change it during the game. It's almost BR again in that it's one way and one way only. No plan B.

I felt this year was the year you had to capitalise to win the league, with the other top sides having new management, plus Liverpool having full weeks between games without European football, then with the early domestic Cup exits. But the leagues long gone. I still think you have every chance of top 4. You have a lot less games to play than us, so hold the aces imo.

If you were to miss out on top 4, I think next season becomes huge for Klopp, as if he were to miss out next season also, then surely he would be gone?

Anyway, you have enough quality up top to make top 4. But Klopp needs to learn to adjust or get left behind again.

Ps, Clyne for me is a big weakness.


1.) 28 Feb 2017 02:16:24
Clyne can run fast . Positive.
Don't have time to list all the negatives but just once it would be nice for a cross of his to beat the first defender.

Firing your manager days before you play Liverpool is also a proven winning formula.

2.) 28 Feb 2017 03:04:48
Fair call Stand United, we were tactively naive against Leicester. Once Hendo was injured we should have dropped another midfielder deep as there was no way Can could control the game on his own and cover the CBs effectively. Compound that with Vardys pace against Lucas and with Leicester having so much to prove we should have been preparing for a massive battle and prioritising defensive solidity over attack. Yet again we lose to a bottom 4 side, and yet again to a side that played smarter with less possession (31%)

3.) 28 Feb 2017 04:47:12
Clyne isn't our biggest problem, but he's a great example of how this team isn't good enough. Decent defensively but mostly mediocre, and sometimes awful, going forward. A real inadequacy down the right hand side.

{Ed001's Note - do you think he is even decent defensively? He is just quick and full of running. He is so poor positionally that he is constantly chasing opponents, rather than being in place to stop runs etc.}

4.) 28 Feb 2017 04:57:53
Yes, some of us have said this since the beginning that it was something to be wary of regarding Klopp. Some where so lost in the hysteria surrounding him that even after his first season people where saying 'I can't believe he's our manager' this just showed the mentality of some supporters, as if people had accepted mediocrity. Not because we finished 8th under Klopp in that season and lost in two cup finals but because people acted as if it is liverpools honour to have Klopp rather than his honour to be coaching this club, it was embarrassing and never went down well with me, and you still have some posters and some 'respected' people on this site still making the same excuses. This is a shared responsibility, and it definitely isn't only the players execution that's the problem. You don't lose to the teams we have lost to and say that it's all down to the players, there's something more than that. There is a stubbornness in preparing us and not studying the opposition. The very best managers are able to prepare for their oppnonents, and that means playing different ways sometimes. We play one way and if it works it works to great affect, if it doesn't we are doomed from the off and Klopp does very little to change it. Klopp suffers from similar problems to rogers even though they have different style of play. Klopp has shown he does try to change things at times and it has worked on occasion but rarely ever happens during a game. Everyone seemed to forget that during klopps last season at Dortmund, they where in and around the relegation zone around mid season, Klopp seems to have a habit of going on dreadful runs and not knowing how to fix it until it eventually fixes itself. We had a mini version of what we are going through now last season around the same time. I trust Klopp to get it right but I think it has the potential to go southward just as easily as it goes upwards, and that's a major concern going forward. I said before Klopp arrived that I preferred someone else we where in for at the time who may or may not have been a viable option but certainly would have been better for the short term and I stand by that. I always said Klopp would be more long term and I also stated I didn't think we would win the league with him, but we would win trophies and achieve top 4 status. I think these where very realistic assumptions, and I hope to god I'm wrong in terms of not winning a league.

Please don't take this as negativity, I remain fully behind Klopp and the team. Even if we don't achieve top 4 I would still stick with Klopp, even though that would be a failure. The penny will drop for me if the right sort of players aren't bought in the summer, I think that will be telling. Until then we will just have to continue fighting for top 4 and get lucky as it's out of our hands now.

{Ed001's Note - so one season out of 14 in Klopp's career is evidence that he doesn't know how to fix a bad run? How on earth do you get that from that ONE season? Nothing about his career has suggested any such thing.}

5.) 28 Feb 2017 10:18:01
Thing is, in that one season, Klopp actually fixed it and Dortmund ended the season very well.

{Ed002's Note - He won with Dortmund - years and years ago. Great job.}

6.) 28 Feb 2017 12:56:53
Just like Dier and Davies against Mane had a clear outcome, Lucas vs Vardy has only one outcome. Klopp has been technically average all his career. Lost two cup finals in a very similar fashion. Dreadful midfield and terrible defense.

7.) 28 Feb 2017 18:38:42
I wouldn't have to mention that season if similar things hadn't repeated themselves ed01. There is clearly something wrong when you go on a run as bad as what we are going on now and what Dortmund had in their last season. Just look at dortmunds squad that season and tell me they should have been down near the bottom even with their problems with injuries, what are you going to do blame it on the players here as well. That same stick was used to beat mourinho with but he has done a half decent job of building utd up after a dreadful start having won one competition and has a chance of winning another 2 and finishing in the top 4. And like Klopp last season this is mourinho first season, so he will get a bye for his dreadful start. Obviously the situations are somewhat different because mourinho has much more resources and had that at Chelsea also, but the reason the players stopped playing for him at Chelsea is because he's a c*** not because he's got problems with his game management. Klopp on the other hand does and there's no way of sugar coating it. We have had every excuse since this dreadful run and we had similar excuses last season and they all turned out to be excuses. The buck sits with the players but also with Klopp. If it was a one off I wouldn't even mention it, but it's happened more than once now so it's a factor in assessing Klopp. With Klopp you don't know what to expect, it can either go tits up or miracles can happen and after rogers I didn't think that's what we needed. Either way he's here and I'm glad he's our manager but I wasn't one that brown nosed him and I was always going to call out the insufficiencies of Klopp and the players. Be half glass full if you want but I'm tired of that mentality.

{Ed001's Note - did you look where Dortmund finished the season? And I have discussed this to death when Klopp joined, there were a hundred factors involved, including the players losing focus after so many sales of players. No club continues to compete indefinitely when it continually sells its best players to its rivals. It was a miracle they managed to stay competitive at all. Have you looked where they are now under Tuchel? Klopp clearly sorted out the players and got things going before that season ended. The difference being the fans got behind him over the players, he had their full and complete backing, unlike at Liverpool where the morons are out in force with their ridiculous idiotic thoughts that we are entitled to win everything.}




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28 Apr 2017 21:03:45
Reason I asked on here was because I was wondering if Liverpool showed interest.

Ed, I agree, considering the seasons been a bit stop start with ACON and a couple of injuries, every time he has played he's been outstanding. Looks the real deal. Need to find him a partner now.


{Ed001's Note - don't worry Stand, I understood why you asked here. Excellent player, who has years to grow as a player as well.}



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26 Jan 2016 22:53:28
6 disagree? Lol. Who thinks Liverpool can sign messi and bale too?




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26 Jan 2016 21:51:07
Why in this earth would one of if not the best CF leave Bayern to join Liverpool with probably no CL football again?




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12 Jul 2015 18:33:16
Fees £44m apparently with the add one amounting to £49. Anyone know what percentage of that QPR get? Eds? Reus next for you boys


{Ed001's Note - 20%}



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26 Jun 2015 12:26:41
You still don't see my point tho. I'm not comparing United to Chelsea, in fact I'm pretty harsh on my club. We're miles away from them. But we're looking to sign world class talent. The type of player who can turn you into challengers. I personally don't feel any of your signing so far bar Firmino (if he's as good as stated as I haven't seen him) are. City were desperate to keep Milner because he's British for the home grown rule. He's not a top player. He doesn't even start for England and we all know how bad they are. Bogdan for jones makes NO sense to me. You should of signed a top keeper and used mig as backup. I just see Liverpool signing 8/9 ok players , rather than 3/4 real quality players that will make your first 11 stronger





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25 May 2017 20:17:24
Lack credibility? Jose wasn't in charge last year when we failed to secure CL football. So his hands were tied in that although like everyone we would rather play in the CL, we had to play in the Europa. We end up winning it, along with the league cup, and in his first season its two trophies. Yes they're not the two we all want. But it's still good to win, to ingrain a winning mentality into the squad, for the future. Also CL qualification. What were you expecting us to do? Win it and trudge off the pitch? Come on.


{Ed025's Note - you should know better than to expect liverpool fans to appreciate any united success stand, im sure if they had won the league (some hope) that no united fan would come on these pages and congratulate them mate, thats football rivalry for you im afraid..



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01 May 2017 21:24:31
Lavers so diving fine as long as you get a yellow? Makes it any less cheating does it?




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01 May 2017 21:08:27
Agreed mate. 3 game ban for diving, can't stand it.




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30 Apr 2017 17:02:12
I don't understand why fans make such a fuss of a bad decision, it's not like Liverpool never score an offside goal or get an iffy pen, or dive. All the big teams get some over the season. So it's swings and roundabouts.




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30 Apr 2017 15:14:42
Wasn't an penalty. The handball I don't agree with Hererra didn't move his arm to the ball as was 2 yards away. But it's swings and roundabouts, we've had some shocking desicions, goals disallowed for no reasons etc so you get some and don't get others. It evens out

Fellaini offers something different but isn't good enough to be a United player, but I could say that about a lot of them. Jones, Smalling, Shaw (can't keep fit) , Rooney ( finished 3 years ago) , darmian, young, carrick ( legs gone) , Fellaini should all be moved on in my opinion. Valencia, rojo, Bailly, DDG, Hererra, pog, Martial, miki, rash, Mata are the only ones who I would keep. The rest I wouldn't be arsed losing.