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28 Apr 2017 19:40:10
Just a quick question for ed01 if your around? Just wondered, with Liverpools lack of quality at the back for the last few years, did you ever have interest in Bailly? I think we've made a very good signing there. At 22 I think he can go in to become one of the best CB in the world. With you playing Villarreal last year etc was any interest ever shown in him from LFC? And do you rate the lad?

Stand.

Stand-United

{Ed001's Note - no interest that I am aware of. I believe he was considered to be too raw and it might be a risk to get him with his lack of Prem (and overall) experience. Big mistake in my opinion as he is an excellent defender. Now he is back to full fitness after his injury, he has been outstanding for you at the back again.}


1.) 28 Apr 2017 20:38:52
This is the Liverpool page you may what to ask on the united page 😂.

{Ed025's Note - whats your problem?, guys like stand and others post on various sites and live chats and is very welcome, dont be so insular mate..


2.) 28 Apr 2017 21:03:45
Reason I asked on here was because I was wondering if Liverpool showed interest.

Ed, I agree, considering the seasons been a bit stop start with ACON and a couple of injuries, every time he has played he's been outstanding. Looks the real deal. Need to find him a partner now.

{Ed001's Note - don't worry Stand, I understood why you asked here. Excellent player, who has years to grow as a player as well.}


3.) 28 Apr 2017 22:18:32
Give Origi a chance was clearly joking. After all, most times the Eds say the very same thing.


4.) 29 Apr 2017 01:06:19
I associate with some good Salford Utd supporters.

I tell everyone but them that I hate the team they're associated with, only to associate with them with a massive mutual respect.

I think the hatred and malice lasts for ninety minutes a time, with an occasional half hour of fisticuffs for the thick ones.

I think I've come to the conclusion that ALL of us football fans are in fact pure helmets, especially Utd reserves due to move adjacent to the royal blue Mersey.


5.) 29 Apr 2017 01:20:46
United did pay a hefty fee for him, certainly raised my eye brows at the time. Can understand why we never got involved at that price. Could work out to be a bargain but that's the risk with football players.


6.) 28 Apr 2017 22:21:11
Ed 25, I think most of us have the sense to know Stand is welcome on our page.

I think Origi's post was a bit tounge in cheek.

Ed002 " try the European page"
" try the Chelsea page"
Etc etc.

That's how I read it anyway . 😳.

{Ed025's Note - i hope so nicky mate..


7.) 28 Apr 2017 23:12:38
Ed it's banter lad I feel you did not get the joke.

{Ed025's Note - sorry if i was not with the programme there origi, i will try harder in the future mate.. :)


8.) 29 Apr 2017 02:29:50
Ed25 misses banter every now and then!

{Ed025's Note - i do you know faith and i hold my hands up, its a sign of getting old mate..


 

 

 

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25 Apr 2017 19:39:58
Evening lads, just thought I'd throw my opinion in. I do make regular visits and try to be honest in what I post.

I still think your a certainty for top 4 this season. We still have City, Arsenal and Spurs away, and although we are an impressive 24 games unbeaten, we won't continue that imo. Obviously we also have the distraction of Europe which should now be our priority. You have 4 games left to prepare for, we have 8 if not 9 left. We also have a lot of injuries, the likes of Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Pogba, Ibra, Mata etc. You also have easier fixtures so I think it would be criminal if you didn't make top 4 from here. Having said that, I think although we're behind you in the league, we've overall had a better season, with winning the EFL and a chance of lifting the Europa. For Jose' first season I'm fairly happy. So many of the home games we dominated and ended up drawing cost us our league position this season. I think with another few top additions this summer we will have a really good go next year.

This season you've been able to consentrate and plan for PL matches usually with a week between games. Next war with European football you will find it harder imo, as will cheslea. I personally think we have a better squad than yourselves, and a manager who's tactically superior, and I'd be very surprised if we didn't finish above you next season.

This year tho, its you above us in 4th and 5th although I'd love to be proven wrong, I don't think I will be.

Stand-United

1.) 25 Apr 2017 20:09:16
Fair assessment mate! Hope we nip you to fourth but if you get it only have ourselves to blame.

Would love to wish you best of luck but would be a lie, but do like the non biased assessment and the cross site banter. Also would love to know, think Ibra's proven his quality this season and breathed fresh air into the league with his charisma. But think his injury might be a blessing in disguise as although young think rashford could be ready to take starting role next season.


2.) 25 Apr 2017 20:40:31
UTD will get into the CL by winning the Europa league. They have what 3 games and two Tier 1 teams to play against.


3.) 25 Apr 2017 20:50:25
United should always be above Liverpool and its criminal that they aren't imo. We purchace Klavan, United buy Bailey, we buy Gini (who has done pretty well) and United fork out £90 million on Pogba. They also fork out top wages for Ibra. For that i would be looking top 4. Imagine if Klopp could buy those type of players and didn't get top 4! All hell would break lose on this page.


4.) 25 Apr 2017 21:14:25
Stand United is a decent lad. You're always welcome round here even if you're one of the mob down the road.


5.) 25 Apr 2017 21:20:28
Irish rover post of the year so far.


6.) 25 Apr 2017 21:20:40
Stand, united will spend 3 or4 times what we will spend in the summer, maybe another 90 million player, that's what united have done going back to the time you signed rooney, ferdinand, more or less buying your wins, so for the lesser teams who do much better on a very limited budget, they can and do have a better season sometimes for me .


7.) 25 Apr 2017 21:26:48
Ibra has been immense and I think having him even for one season will have done the likes or Rashford and Martial the world of good. But to be honest I think we're a better side without him and think he hinders our game. We are far more dangerous with either Rashford or Martial down the middle, pace and movement. I think both Rashford and Martial are immense talents. Having said that I would like ibra fit for the bench.

I also don't dismiss the three other sides left in Europa league. Yes we are the best side left in, no doubt about that. But Southampton aren't a better side than Liverpool and won over two legs. Anything can happen in cup competitions.


8.) 25 Apr 2017 22:09:47
Good honest assessment there Stand, I had a beer with one of my United mates at the weekend and our conversation centred on many of your points . We had a similar season last season with good runs in the league cup and Europa although City and Seville were probably tougher opposition than Southampton or Ajax/ Lyon . I do think you'll make the final maybe Ryan Babel will think otherwise lol. Your point about us having easier games in the run in I'm not so sure those are the kind of fixtures we seem to struggle in . Our silver lining could be the fact Arsenal City and United have to play each other.


9.) 25 Apr 2017 22:55:31
Stand - sounds a lot like Benteke tbh. Good player, dangerous goalscorer but to get the best out of him you have to sacrifice the best of half the squad.


10.) 26 Apr 2017 14:26:58
Surely that shows us that by buying the 11 best (dearest) players for their resective positions doesn't necessarily make the best team unit.

Klopp has done well so far in transfers/ value for money. This along with integrating some of the u23s into the first team has been very sucessful.

An overhall of the back 4 starting with lovren is what we should concentrate our efforts this year.

And though I hate to say it that unless Daniel Sturridge miraculously finds some consistent form then he should be replaced as well.


11.) 26 Apr 2017 17:45:23
Great post, Stand and you give a very intelligent assessment of affairs as they Stand (lol) . CL is ours to lose and if we do lose it and you or Arsenal get it via the PL then you would have deserved it and we would have bottled it, royally. We'll see what happens.


 

 

15 Apr 2017 10:13:30
Thoughts with Hillsborough connections today

Stand.

Stand-United

1.) 15 Apr 2017 13:57:37
Stand, knowing you pop over to our site every now and then Stand, I had a feeling you'd come over today.

Nice one fella 👍.


2.) 15 Apr 2017 15:49:12
Footballs just a game Nicky mate. Family and life is more important than any game.


3.) 15 Apr 2017 18:32:40
Fair play Stand .


4.) 15 Apr 2017 18:32:58
Shown down class there stand, well done mate 👍🏻.


5.) 15 Apr 2017 21:17:25
Nice one my good man still hope you get slaughtered by Chelsea though.


 

 

27 Feb 2017 23:01:21
This isn't gloating, just to put it out there before I start. This is just constructive opinion from outside.

I can't believe how tactically naive Klopp still is after 18 months in this league. Don't get me wrong he's obviously talented, and when your on it, your brilliant to watch. But time after time he fails to recognise problems during the game and act upon it. Now you can forgive this for a time, but 18 months and he isn't learning his lesson. Going with Lucas tonight, knowing the pace of Vardy, and playing a high line knowing he loves to run off the shoulder of the last defender, was a disaster. And yet he did nothing to change it during the game. It's almost BR again in that it's one way and one way only. No plan B.

I felt this year was the year you had to capitalise to win the league, with the other top sides having new management, plus Liverpool having full weeks between games without European football, then with the early domestic Cup exits. But the leagues long gone. I still think you have every chance of top 4. You have a lot less games to play than us, so hold the aces imo.

If you were to miss out on top 4, I think next season becomes huge for Klopp, as if he were to miss out next season also, then surely he would be gone?

Anyway, you have enough quality up top to make top 4. But Klopp needs to learn to adjust or get left behind again.

Ps, Clyne for me is a big weakness.

Stand-United

1.) 28 Feb 2017 02:16:24
Clyne can run fast . Positive.
Don't have time to list all the negatives but just once it would be nice for a cross of his to beat the first defender.

Firing your manager days before you play Liverpool is also a proven winning formula.


2.) 28 Feb 2017 03:04:48
Fair call Stand United, we were tactively naive against Leicester. Once Hendo was injured we should have dropped another midfielder deep as there was no way Can could control the game on his own and cover the CBs effectively. Compound that with Vardys pace against Lucas and with Leicester having so much to prove we should have been preparing for a massive battle and prioritising defensive solidity over attack. Yet again we lose to a bottom 4 side, and yet again to a side that played smarter with less possession (31%)


3.) 28 Feb 2017 04:47:12
Clyne isn't our biggest problem, but he's a great example of how this team isn't good enough. Decent defensively but mostly mediocre, and sometimes awful, going forward. A real inadequacy down the right hand side.

{Ed001's Note - do you think he is even decent defensively? He is just quick and full of running. He is so poor positionally that he is constantly chasing opponents, rather than being in place to stop runs etc.}


4.) 28 Feb 2017 04:57:53
Yes, some of us have said this since the beginning that it was something to be wary of regarding Klopp. Some where so lost in the hysteria surrounding him that even after his first season people where saying 'I can't believe he's our manager' this just showed the mentality of some supporters, as if people had accepted mediocrity. Not because we finished 8th under Klopp in that season and lost in two cup finals but because people acted as if it is liverpools honour to have Klopp rather than his honour to be coaching this club, it was embarrassing and never went down well with me, and you still have some posters and some 'respected' people on this site still making the same excuses. This is a shared responsibility, and it definitely isn't only the players execution that's the problem. You don't lose to the teams we have lost to and say that it's all down to the players, there's something more than that. There is a stubbornness in preparing us and not studying the opposition. The very best managers are able to prepare for their oppnonents, and that means playing different ways sometimes. We play one way and if it works it works to great affect, if it doesn't we are doomed from the off and Klopp does very little to change it. Klopp suffers from similar problems to rogers even though they have different style of play. Klopp has shown he does try to change things at times and it has worked on occasion but rarely ever happens during a game. Everyone seemed to forget that during klopps last season at Dortmund, they where in and around the relegation zone around mid season, Klopp seems to have a habit of going on dreadful runs and not knowing how to fix it until it eventually fixes itself. We had a mini version of what we are going through now last season around the same time. I trust Klopp to get it right but I think it has the potential to go southward just as easily as it goes upwards, and that's a major concern going forward. I said before Klopp arrived that I preferred someone else we where in for at the time who may or may not have been a viable option but certainly would have been better for the short term and I stand by that. I always said Klopp would be more long term and I also stated I didn't think we would win the league with him, but we would win trophies and achieve top 4 status. I think these where very realistic assumptions, and I hope to god I'm wrong in terms of not winning a league.

Please don't take this as negativity, I remain fully behind Klopp and the team. Even if we don't achieve top 4 I would still stick with Klopp, even though that would be a failure. The penny will drop for me if the right sort of players aren't bought in the summer, I think that will be telling. Until then we will just have to continue fighting for top 4 and get lucky as it's out of our hands now.

{Ed001's Note - so one season out of 14 in Klopp's career is evidence that he doesn't know how to fix a bad run? How on earth do you get that from that ONE season? Nothing about his career has suggested any such thing.}


5.) 28 Feb 2017 10:18:01
Thing is, in that one season, Klopp actually fixed it and Dortmund ended the season very well.

{Ed002's Note - He won with Dortmund - years and years ago. Great job.}


6.) 28 Feb 2017 12:56:53
Just like Dier and Davies against Mane had a clear outcome, Lucas vs Vardy has only one outcome. Klopp has been technically average all his career. Lost two cup finals in a very similar fashion. Dreadful midfield and terrible defense.


7.) 28 Feb 2017 18:38:42
I wouldn't have to mention that season if similar things hadn't repeated themselves ed01. There is clearly something wrong when you go on a run as bad as what we are going on now and what Dortmund had in their last season. Just look at dortmunds squad that season and tell me they should have been down near the bottom even with their problems with injuries, what are you going to do blame it on the players here as well. That same stick was used to beat mourinho with but he has done a half decent job of building utd up after a dreadful start having won one competition and has a chance of winning another 2 and finishing in the top 4. And like Klopp last season this is mourinho first season, so he will get a bye for his dreadful start. Obviously the situations are somewhat different because mourinho has much more resources and had that at Chelsea also, but the reason the players stopped playing for him at Chelsea is because he's a c*** not because he's got problems with his game management. Klopp on the other hand does and there's no way of sugar coating it. We have had every excuse since this dreadful run and we had similar excuses last season and they all turned out to be excuses. The buck sits with the players but also with Klopp. If it was a one off I wouldn't even mention it, but it's happened more than once now so it's a factor in assessing Klopp. With Klopp you don't know what to expect, it can either go tits up or miracles can happen and after rogers I didn't think that's what we needed. Either way he's here and I'm glad he's our manager but I wasn't one that brown nosed him and I was always going to call out the insufficiencies of Klopp and the players. Be half glass full if you want but I'm tired of that mentality.

{Ed001's Note - did you look where Dortmund finished the season? And I have discussed this to death when Klopp joined, there were a hundred factors involved, including the players losing focus after so many sales of players. No club continues to compete indefinitely when it continually sells its best players to its rivals. It was a miracle they managed to stay competitive at all. Have you looked where they are now under Tuchel? Klopp clearly sorted out the players and got things going before that season ended. The difference being the fans got behind him over the players, he had their full and complete backing, unlike at Liverpool where the morons are out in force with their ridiculous idiotic thoughts that we are entitled to win everything.}


 

 

16 Oct 2016 19:16:11
Well, big game tomorrow and as usual, it's my favourite game of the season and somehow also my worst. It's once fixture I genuinly feel sick prior too, and the one game you don't want to lose. If we were 6 months down the line I think I'd be a lot more confident of a result than I am. But as it is, you have a settled side, with a manager who's been in charge for a year now and has had last season to get your team playing they way he wants. Jose on the other hand has still not found his best 11 yet imo, injuries haven't helped, and players are still settling in to a new way with Jose. I don't think we'll see a proper Jose team into after Christmas.

I see a lot of optimism on here, and your rightly favourites for this match. Yet I think some posters expecting an easy 3-0 or 4-0 win could easily come unstuck. We may not have played well so far this season, yet we do have 7 wins from 11 games under Jose, hardly shoddy. Rooney is the main problem and it seems he's finally been dropped for the good of the side.

I expect you to have more of the ball that us tomorrow and at home be on the front foot. But if we can keep you at bay, I think we have the individuals to cause you problems. Zlatan will be a danger from set pieces, and with the pace of Rashford and Martial we have decent outlets to counter. Pogba is still settling in but he's is a match winner, Mata can cause problems and if fit Mikhitarian could be useful off the bench. When he get a run of games injury free will be a top player for us.

So it's a hard game to call, I just have a gut feeling it's too soon for us in Jose' reign and you'll beat us maybe 2-1.

I did see some posters declaring Jose is finished as a top manager. This is a manager who has won league titles and European titles with multiple clubs. A manager who won the premier league just 18 months ago. Klopp hasn't won a trophy in 3/ 4 years, so what makes Jose finished as a top manager? I think people who believe this are kidding themselves, and I expect him to take us back to the top in the near future. Anyway, hoping we cause an upset tomorrow. Good luck.

Stand-United

1.) 16 Oct 2016 20:04:00
I love this post. First you pull a Jose and make proactive excuses; "you have a settled side". Which is laughable considering we made more changes in the summer than you and this is our managers first full season also. Maybe slightly more settled, but certainly not settled!

Then you cap your post off with a claim that a United win would be an upset. So you are admitting that we are now the better side, so much so you consider yourselves under dogs.

How the mighty have fallen ;)

I jest of course, a very humble and honest post mate. I don't think United or Jose are finished, but I don't think either will be successful until they part company. Mourinho needs to take a long holiday, and United need a Klopp/ Pochettino/ Pep. Somebody to come in with a long term commitment and plan to building an identity. You are suffering still from losing Fergie and as was seen when we lost Dalglish in the 90's, it can take years to recover from the hangover you get at the end of such an iconic era.

However that does not mean United will be a bad side in the mean time (Liverpool have won cup trebles and the Champions league in a so called baron spell) and as you predicted, I also believe it will be tighter than anticipated. I do believe you will score, but I think we will get 2 or 3. I will say 3-1 with Firmino, Coutinho and Ibrahimovic getting the goals.


2.) 16 Oct 2016 20:06:52
Good post. What's your view on the ref from Manchester.

I think your correct on it being to soon for Jose, I think it will be 3-2 to lfc.

Thanks for the post stand.


3.) 16 Oct 2016 20:07:57
A great post mate, good to see a decent post by a Man U supporter, your manager is no where near finished and is still if I'm honest one of the best managers in the world, to think people are saying 3 or 4 nil win I can't see happening, I think Mour would take a draw, I think we will win by a single goal like you said 2-1 or 1-0,well I hope so anyway mate as I'm the only one in my family that supports Liverpool, the rest are Man U supporters and I'll tell you this their worried about this game saying that it's come to early for them.


4.) 16 Oct 2016 20:26:18
Fair post mate.


5.) 16 Oct 2016 20:49:15
Your 3 point above us in the league, at home, in better form than us and the bookies have you as favourites for this game, I can't argue with that. Regardless of tomorrow's outcome I still believe wel be a force again in the near future once Jose settles down and finds his best 11.


6.) 16 Oct 2016 21:24:52
Stand-United,
Tomorrows game could go in any direction, 6-0, 6-5, 5-6, but I do believe IF we come out of the traps we could destroy Utd before half time.
On Jose, I have predicted to my Utd buddies since Fergie left that he would come Utd but it will be like the coming of the anti-christ and he will destroy the club.
Next season we will be back on the perch. :D.


7.) 16 Oct 2016 21:47:00
Liverpool has to beat UTD tomorrow. Absolutely no excuses.


8.) 16 Oct 2016 21:58:42
Imo I think the result will rely heavily on United! What United is going to show up? The 4-1 thrashing of Leicester or the 1-1 at home to stoke. But also how United play, Jose seems to like his players sitting back organised in big games, but that could just be with United as he's still fairly unfirmliar with his best 11, players strengths, teams quality etc. As with Chelsea last season they came and had a good go at us in the first half. I don't wanna seem overly confident but I only see two outcomes; a close contested game where United show up and play a good game but we just edge the result, or where United sit back and invite us on and once that first goal goes in they'll slowly fall apart.


9.) 16 Oct 2016 22:34:45
@Midge

Everyone beats LCFC so you can discount that :)


10.) 16 Oct 2016 23:07:42
The OP makes some valid points. Having watched the past couple of games at home where we either outplayed Utd and lost or we made mistakes and they took advantage and won without being that good, I don't believe in us giving them any type of hiding, except you call 2-1 a hiding which it isn't. Mou knows how to win or not lose games like this and frankly, I believe he will sit back and play on the counter as he is too paranoid to open up and play our type of game because he will lose as he's lost to Klopp almost every time. It is up to us in the end because we are at home and I don't believe we will hold them scoreless. However, if we keep a clean sheet, WE WILL WIN THE GAME. That, you can be sure of.


11.) 16 Oct 2016 23:09:13
That's true polecat, but they did score 3 from corners which should worry us;)


12.) 16 Oct 2016 23:11:04
There is almost too much confidence coming from our camp.

It's United.
It's Mourinho.
It's not going to be easy.


13.) 17 Oct 2016 01:14:26
Mourinho who's that again? the games ours, watch.


14.) 17 Oct 2016 08:43:39
A balanced post, Stand United. Eagerly anticipating this game, because it is just too close. This is a game which we could dominate territorially and possession wise and still not get 3 points.
As for Mourinho, he's by no means finished, however I do wonder if he'll try and modify his style of management. I think that the 'Us and them' mentality he seems to try and create is not sustainable over a long period, and is one reason for the high turnover of posts he's had. I get the feeling he wants to be at Utd for the long haul.


15.) 18 Oct 2016 11:27:35
I personally think Jose could be finished as a top level manager at least until he takes a step back and looks at the way he conducts himself. You can't compare the last 4-5 years between him and Klopp as Jose has always been at teams where he is expected to win the league and has always been given the finance to do so. Klopp is more of a builder and his teams take longer but have more longevity. Personally I believe that the players don't respond to Jose anymore as he's lost some confidence after Real Madrid and then Chelsea. Last season he almost became a joke figure with some of his ridiculous outbursts and the players turned on him. With the type of character he is I think that will take some coming back from.


 

 

20 Sep 2016 17:44:59
United fan in peace. I visit regularly and post from time to time as some may notice.

So anyway, I was wondering what's people thought now on where United and yourselves will finish this season. Appreciate its early days, but the reason I ask is, after a couple of games when we played fairly well and recorded 3 straight wins, and you had just been beaten at Burnley, there was a lot of posters on here saying United would push city, and that yourselves would be lucky to finish 6th. 2 games later and I see a lot of people believing you will be champions. Funny how much can change in a week isn't it?

I personally think you will challenge, and without the disruption of a management change this summer, plus no midweek European football, I think you really should be challenging at the very least. However I still feel city have a superior squad and will win the league comfortably. How many team can be missing aguero and still bang in 4 goals in consecutive games?

As for United, I think we have a good squad, in fact the best squad we've had in a long time. But with yet another managerial change, new players, etc I think it will be after Christmas before we see a good solid side, and that's why I don't believe we're in the title race. We have imo, the best keeper in the world, very good fullbacks, Bailly looks a great prospect, but we need a partner for him, plenty of potential in Pogba, Mikhatarian, Hererra, Rashford, Martial, Ibra etc, I feel with so much quality it's a question of when not if it clicks. Rooney has held us back for 2/ 3 years now and it's time to move on from him.

If I was picking a side from both squads I'd probably have fairly even numbers in the 11 I imagine.

Anyway, I was just wondering what people's views on where we both finish this season and if you think you will win the league?

Eds feel free to air your opinions

Thanks.

Stand-United

1.) 20 Sep 2016 18:36:53
Your squad doesn't look balanced, doesn't look like a team at all, just a load of individuals thrown together, good ones yes but they are not playing anywhere near to thier potential. mourinho needs to get them playing as a unit to get the most of them or he will be lucky to get top 4 in my opinion. He also needs to drop Rooney until he can get fit again or sell him, he's taking up a space.

We might not have the world class individuals like you but we seem to be playing as a team, almost the opposite to yourselves.

Still too early to judge, United have the players to win the league if you can sort out your issues quickly, Liverpool need to show consistency, can't really tell if we have yet or not, if we do manage to beat the lower half teams more regulary then we could challenge as well.
I wouldn't be gifting man city the league yet either.


2.) 20 Sep 2016 18:45:30
You have Mourinho. You won't play pretty football that's for sure but you will grind out those vital wins. Imo United will prob come 3rd or 4th.


3.) 20 Sep 2016 18:48:20
I expect us to challenge if karius is an improvement over mignolet and james milner is fit for the majority of the season. He's turned into a much needed solid left back. It really depends on injuries to much needed and key players. Henderson especially as I've mentioneda numerous times his importance to midfield defensively.
On united I expect mourinho to get the results. Zlatlan was a great buy. If he drops rooney and gets them playing decently they have the players to do damage. De gea imo guarentees top 4 so its how united perform consistanly and keeping ztlatlan fit as to were they finish.
I think city will win it. Top defenders there and some magnificent players going forward.
Liverpool in my mind to finish 3rd. Weaknesses will get exposed too often. Heart says we will win it.


4.) 20 Sep 2016 18:50:46
Forgot to add. If Mourinho was allowed to put out the team he wanted, then you would probably challenge. Unfortunately he has to play politics and not upset the team ethos considering Rooney is a big influence. If he can find a way to drop Rooney asap then you could challenge, but it might be a bit to late if he is still shoehorning Rooney into the side post-christmas.


5.) 20 Sep 2016 18:53:04
You lot will be lucky to finish top half after the meltdown.


6.) 20 Sep 2016 19:25:43
I agree with mikey, you need a settled team playing as a unit. Brilliant almost embarrassingly good squad of individuals to pick from, but with that comes it's own problems. Rest assured you will be challenging, but for top 4 I think, not the title this year. Liverpool will be too 4. 😉.


7.) 20 Sep 2016 19:26:32
IMO mouriniho will not get the best out of this team and will not last at United. And I said this before the season started. Even before Fergie United play fast fluid football with wingers and like to entertain. JM will never entertain and seems to have lost his charm that made him so likeable to media, fans and his players. Maybe it's just old now. But he will never be loved like he was at Chelsea that first spell. I think u may well scrape 4th just because Everton, Chelsea and Spurs are going to have off spells and you guys still grind out results better than most. I think if we start to kill teams off starting at hull we won't challenge because city will be outta sight but we'll get 3rd. Gunners 2nd.


8.) 20 Sep 2016 19:33:38
realistically i believe liverpool will finnish 2nd or 3rd and united 3,4 or 5th.


9.) 20 Sep 2016 19:42:36
Hard to say really, much as I don't want you to think 2nd or third. Alternatively mourinho could have a melt down and go mid table.

Have some great individual players but as another poster said a very unbalanced squad. Top keeper but Bailey looks to be your only good CB, fullbacks are good compared to the rest of the league, pogba is a great midfielder and zlatan is a proven scorer. Just need mourinho to find a way to make it work. Also depends on Rooney, as think he needs to be dropped.

Personally think mkhitaryan rashford and martial should play behind zlatan to try speed up play with pogba and schnerderlin in midfield.


10.) 20 Sep 2016 22:44:37
Cheers for the replies. Seems we're almost all in agreeance we have a good squad. But needs tweaking to say the least.

Well done Mattaldinho. There always one village idiot with a crap response to genuine posts. Why not out your money where your mouth is. I'll bet you ten grand we finish top half?


11.) 21 Sep 2016 02:12:59
I agree with most of the above - United have a good squad of players but understandably lack cohesion with a new manager. I said before the start of season liverpool will benefit from having had Klopp on ground for extra 6 months while Utd, City (wrong there! ), Chelsea etc. may struggle at first, so I still think top 4 will be City, Liverpool then a scrap between Arsenal, Utd an Chelsea.

I also agree Mou should play Carrick or Schneiderlin at DM with Pogba and Mkhitaryan in the middle. A front line of Ibra, Martial and Rashford with maybe Antonio. Still looks like you miss true wingers though and should have bought someone like Mane. No way Fellaini should be near a Utd squad and Rooney is not good enough for midfield IMO and not a wide player either. We had same problem with Gerard coming to end of his career, but time to move on.

P. s. One risk I do also see is if Mou implodes again. He's a great coach but clearly when things are tough he doesn't handle it well and blames everyone else making things toxic. I thought Chelsea was a once-off, and I also think Utd has stronger characters in the dressing room, but not so sure after recent headlines. Needs to turn things around quickly after recent losses or Utd could miss top 4.


12.) 21 Sep 2016 08:23:38
I always think we'll win the league so no point in elaborating there 🙂.

As for Man Utd. You do have some good players, I'm not convinced you know how to integrate them all in to a cohesive team. It won't be this season. I think you'll finish 5th behind ourselves, City, Arsenal and Spurs. Chelsea - 6th.
You have a great keeper, a decent midfield and some exciting pacey strikers, the problem is in defence and as I said integrating these players into a team.
Jose will probably survive 1 bad season but he'll need to get it right next season.


13.) 21 Sep 2016 08:47:43
A lot depends on how Mourinho deals with things this season, tactically he should be good enough to ensure top 4 but football is constantly changing and I think the biggest challenge now is to see if he can adapt his man-management to motivate the team. The public slating of players and blaming everyone else when things go wrong is something I think is turning off players against him and causing disharmony in general. It will be interesting to see how he deals with a poor run of form, and is he willing to make the big calls like dropping Rooney if it is for the good of the team. For me, he just doesn't seem to fit the club in his style of play or management.

For ourselves I honestly think we will be top 4, the biggest challenge is can we grind out the wins against the so-called smaller teams, if we can then I can honestly see us winning the league though Man City will be favourites, if we don't I still think with our attacking talent that we will be top 4 especially if our main focus is the league and not the cups. Much will also depend on how we are defensively. It will definitely help that Klopp has more time to work with the squad with no europe it should help.

Head says Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Utd. Then again I prefer listening to the heart, which says we are guaranteed to romp it with a record number of goals :)


 

 

 

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Reason I asked on here was because I was wondering if Liverpool showed interest.

Ed, I agree, considering the seasons been a bit stop start with ACON and a couple of injuries, every time he has played he's been outstanding. Looks the real deal. Need to find him a partner now.

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You still don't see my point tho. I'm not comparing United to Chelsea, in fact I'm pretty harsh on my club. We're miles away from them. But we're looking to sign world class talent. The type of player who can turn you into challengers. I personally don't feel any of your signing so far bar Firmino (if he's as good as stated as I haven't seen him) are. City were desperate to keep Milner because he's British for the home grown rule. He's not a top player. He doesn't even start for England and we all know how bad they are. Bogdan for jones makes NO sense to me. You should of signed a top keeper and used mig as backup. I just see Liverpool signing 8/9 ok players , rather than 3/4 real quality players that will make your first 11 stronger

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Ibra has been immense and I think having him even for one season will have done the likes or Rashford and Martial the world of good. But to be honest I think we're a better side without him and think he hinders our game. We are far more dangerous with either Rashford or Martial down the middle, pace and movement. I think both Rashford and Martial are immense talents. Having said that I would like ibra fit for the bench.

I also don't dismiss the three other sides left in Europa league. Yes we are the best side left in, no doubt about that. But Southampton aren't a better side than Liverpool and won over two legs. Anything can happen in cup competitions.

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Footballs just a game Nicky mate. Family and life is more important than any game.

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Kman, very good read that. I visit this site a lot as well as all the others, and often find your posts are very honest, say it as it is. Supermane just opitimised everything you just said in one post below.

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Bringing on Firmino and Coutinho makes him a genius and papers over the flaws in his management does it? Give me a break. My 3 year old nephew would of made them subs.

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