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28 Apr 2017 19:40:10
Just a quick question for ed01 if your around? Just wondered, with Liverpools lack of quality at the back for the last few years, did you ever have interest in Bailly? I think we've made a very good signing there. At 22 I think he can go in to become one of the best CB in the world. With you playing Villarreal last year etc was any interest ever shown in him from LFC? And do you rate the lad?

Stand.

Stand-United

{Ed001's Note - no interest that I am aware of. I believe he was considered to be too raw and it might be a risk to get him with his lack of Prem (and overall) experience. Big mistake in my opinion as he is an excellent defender. Now he is back to full fitness after his injury, he has been outstanding for you at the back again.}


1.) 28 Apr 2017 20:38:52
This is the Liverpool page you may what to ask on the united page 😂.

{Ed025's Note - whats your problem?, guys like stand and others post on various sites and live chats and is very welcome, dont be so insular mate..


2.) 28 Apr 2017 21:03:45
Reason I asked on here was because I was wondering if Liverpool showed interest.

Ed, I agree, considering the seasons been a bit stop start with ACON and a couple of injuries, every time he has played he's been outstanding. Looks the real deal. Need to find him a partner now.

{Ed001's Note - don't worry Stand, I understood why you asked here. Excellent player, who has years to grow as a player as well.}


3.) 28 Apr 2017 22:18:32
Give Origi a chance was clearly joking. After all, most times the Eds say the very same thing.


4.) 29 Apr 2017 01:06:19
I associate with some good Salford Utd supporters.

I tell everyone but them that I hate the team they're associated with, only to associate with them with a massive mutual respect.

I think the hatred and malice lasts for ninety minutes a time, with an occasional half hour of fisticuffs for the thick ones.

I think I've come to the conclusion that ALL of us football fans are in fact pure helmets, especially Utd reserves due to move adjacent to the royal blue Mersey.


5.) 29 Apr 2017 01:20:46
United did pay a hefty fee for him, certainly raised my eye brows at the time. Can understand why we never got involved at that price. Could work out to be a bargain but that's the risk with football players.


6.) 28 Apr 2017 22:21:11
Ed 25, I think most of us have the sense to know Stand is welcome on our page.

I think Origi's post was a bit tounge in cheek.

Ed002 " try the European page"
" try the Chelsea page"
Etc etc.

That's how I read it anyway . 😳.

{Ed025's Note - i hope so nicky mate..


7.) 28 Apr 2017 23:12:38
Ed it's banter lad I feel you did not get the joke.

{Ed025's Note - sorry if i was not with the programme there origi, i will try harder in the future mate.. :)


8.) 29 Apr 2017 02:29:50
Ed25 misses banter every now and then!

{Ed025's Note - i do you know faith and i hold my hands up, its a sign of getting old mate..


 

 

 

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10 Oct 2017 12:28:44
Afternoon lads,

With the big game round the corner I was interested to know what people's predictions were. It's the one game of the season I genuinly don't enjoy. If you get a result it's the best, but before hand I don't enjoy it one bit to be honest.

Now I think there's more pressure on Liverooo than ourselves for obvious reasons, we've started well with dropping points just once, Liverpool have struggled so far. I think united can afford to lose but I'm not sure Liverpool can.

On current form I should be confident. Yeh in a game like this form goes out the window and you tend to turn up against us more often than not. I'd probably settle for a draw now to be honest.

We have a couple of key injuries, Pogba being he obvious one. And I think he's detrimental to the side. If he was fit I'd be a lot more confident of a win. It I had to predict now I'd probably say I fancy a draw.

What's you opinions?

Stand.

Stand-United

1.) 10 Oct 2017 12:43:10
We haven't been playing well. But hopefully as per usual, form goes out the window and we can get a win. Honestly I don't even try and pick these games. Just hope we go out there and give it a good go.


2.) 10 Oct 2017 12:49:45
I'd be very disappointed if Liverpool don't win this one comfortably.
3-0 to Liverpool : Salah, Mane and Wijnaldum 🤝.


3.) 10 Oct 2017 13:03:19
3-2 to Liverpool Salah, Mane and Lukaku will be on the score.


4.) 10 Oct 2017 13:06:34
I'm worried also! If you hadn't improved in terms of goals I wouldn't have worried and I think it would have been a boring 0.0 but with us we know we have tos core to get any result as our defence is so poor so should be goals. I see one hammering the other and quite honestly I don't know who. I'm predicting 1.3 either way.


5.) 10 Oct 2017 13:20:45
I don't think detrimental means what you think it does stand? It means " causes harm" or sumin.

I think Jose will bottle it and play for the draw again. you're right, I think, when you say how important this game is to liverpool, it could change our season. I think it is just as important for utd, if utd win they will be hailed as serious contenders if they lose I think most people will be leaning more to city as title winners.

I'm with you in the sense that I find the tension too much to call enjoyable. If we win, I think we still have an outside chance of winning the league. Massive game.

On form utd have the edge but we are at home and I think we will win it.


6.) 10 Oct 2017 13:28:47
With Ron here. Every game against united I expect to beat them. This could really kick start our season. What I do not hope to see is our heads drop if we concede a silly goal or the ref makes a clanger. We've the players to score against their team regardless of any bus- that's what we should focus on.


7.) 10 Oct 2017 13:31:57
2-2 is my prediction. And I will take that no problem, it won't be easy for either teams. I want it to come and get it out the way, the wait is a bit too much.


8.) 10 Oct 2017 13:40:53
If I was offered a draw now I wouldn't take it. No way, we are at home and utd haven't really been tested this season. It's our game to win or lose.


9.) 10 Oct 2017 14:14:46
superred, everygame is a test in this league mate, to say they haven't been tested is jumping the gun a bit.


10.) 10 Oct 2017 14:40:31
Can see us coming out the traps very quickly in this one, if we can take the chances I feel this will be a comfortable win. Big test for United also as their finally facing tough opposition.


11.) 10 Oct 2017 14:44:26
Always get a bit nervous before this fixture, mainly because Liverpool treat this game like the Champions League final. Being 7th or 2nd Liverpool will turn up and will be pumped for the game. So it will have goals.

I do disagree about Jose playing for a draw. That simply wouldn't happen. Parking the bus is not playing for a draw. It's keeping the other side from scoring by sacrificing your attack somewhat. That doesn't mean there will be no goal attempts though.

Yes we will probably adopt a 352 which will look a lot like a 532 at times, but we will try to win the game. Jose will be disappointed with a draw and wouldn't take it if offered now.


12.) 10 Oct 2017 14:49:42
We’ve shown we can handle Lukaku before provided we can limit his service however set pieces will be a factor - give away too many balls into the box and he’ll score. Rashford also worries me though, especially as our defence struggles against pace. I do think our forwards will discover some form again though, particularly at home in a big match. I’m going for a 3-2 win and for it to be the result that triggers a Chelsea like dominance to take us to the title! 😁.


13.) 10 Oct 2017 15:35:12
Corleone dude, I get what you're saying mate but Utd haven't played any of the top teams yet have they? Im not sure actually. We have had Arsenal and City. Utd's biggest test has been Stoke away 2 2 draw hasn't it?


14.) 10 Oct 2017 15:39:59
Love it SGRED, I think you're right actually, some people will read your post and see the raw optimism and smile, but there is truth in that as well. I think a win over Utd will proper kick start our season and our forwards will find their form. I think firmino will score and I reckon AOC might score a screamer.


15.) 10 Oct 2017 16:19:51
I hate to be pessimistic, especially against United but I just can't see us winning. Draw or lose depending how Jose sets up his team. Hoping to be proven wrong and then it'll be a bonus!

I fully expected us to batter City when we played them and couldn't have been more wrong, it was a real reality check for us. Only time will tell!

{Ed025's Note - they have played no-one yet A.C. and although they have looked decent and have scored a lot of goals i think this is their biggest test to date and liverpool are well capable of beating them mate..


16.) 10 Oct 2017 16:26:33
Hmmm, think this is going to be a painful match. Sadio is now out and Phil and Bobby don't even kick off till tomorrow morning so I doubt they will be fighting fit to start Saturday midday. Hate to say it but I fear we will get tonked 1-4 :o ( I will be hiding behind the sofa. or a bar somewhere.


17.) 10 Oct 2017 17:17:07
Are Coutinho and firminio playing in like 7 hours? or 31 hours?

Either way with time zones, travelling, possible injuries. Must be terrifying for Liverpool fans. I guess Valencia for us is playing then too?


18.) 10 Oct 2017 17:44:43
It could easily be 5-0 or 0-5 - both teams look capable of ripping the other to shreds.


19.) 10 Oct 2017 17:49:45
00:30 tomorrow morning UK time. So whilst I'm sure they'll have a comfy private jet to get them back, there's still the risk of fatigue/ injury IF they play and then the travelling. I'd assume Valencia is in the same boat (or plane! ha ha ha)

{Ed002's Note - Private jets are not "comfy". They are convenient.}


20.) 10 Oct 2017 18:18:10
Doesn't that depend on whether they are "non-standard" private jets ed?

{Ed002's Note - The clubs will share the cost of a run-of-the-mill standard rent-a-jet Ron. Typically something like a GV or G550 because of the range. In the past Mr Abramovich has offered to use of The Bandit to ferry players from various sides back to England - when convenient of course.}


21.) 10 Oct 2017 22:20:03
Thanks ed 😘
It was a slightly rhetorical question after VVD was spotted flying "non-standard" private jets during the transfer window 😁.
I do appreciate the answer though ed and once again displays your great breadth of knowledge. Your knowledge is undoubtedly "non-standard" 😉.


 

 

22 Sep 2017 09:51:40
Bingo claiming "FACTS", then claiming united have spent over £400m in two seasons. No they haven't.

Stand-United

1.) 22 Sep 2017 10:12:23
You have spend a lot of money but it doesn't matter as it's yours hard earned money though sheer dominance on the league and Europe over the years. Your sponsorship on shirts alone worth £70 mill per year. Your board utilized your success on the pitch to its maximum to bring in abundance of cash! I have read you posted a record revenue for the year 16/ 17.
You need title to survive as without titles you would loose the grip on all fronts! You also have the highest wage package in England and certainly in top 5 across all leagues. You could afford!

I am no bitter and would never ever compare your spending to ours as you earn 100% more than any other club in England. So you could spend!

People say Money don't buy you titles but then they conveniently compare spendings when things don't go their way!

People!


2.) 22 Sep 2017 10:13:34
Who cares in all honesty?!
Most "facts" on here or anywhere for that matter are non-factual.
In fact :) there's a stat that is widely known out there that says 98% of all statements of fact and factual, percentage based statistics are made up on the spot, possibly including this one - that is quite possibly a very important fact for you to take into account Stand-United!


3.) 22 Sep 2017 10:17:48
Stand you are in serious denial if you think you've spent less than that mate! Look, it is your own money, so no hard feelings. But you really have spent it if you check the figures! Pogba alone gets you a quarter of the way! It is over £300m alone just on the publicised transfer fees. Never mind agent fees, signing on fees, legal fees etc.

As the mighty Ed002 would say, this is why we don't talk money. I honestly don't know the actual figures any more accurately than you do. But you have definitely spent £400m in the last 2 years!


4.) 22 Sep 2017 10:26:08
It's over half a billion in 3 years . It's pretty close to that amount.


5.) 22 Sep 2017 10:47:23
Man Utd spent £295m in the last two seasons without agents fees being included. Their agent fees for 2016/ 17 season was £19m. these are the available figures from transferleague. co. uk and the BBC.


6.) 22 Sep 2017 11:04:01
I don't think there are signing on fees when there is a transfer fee involved, is there?

I also remember Liverpool having one of the highest payments to Agents (£25 million over 3/ 4 years), so i seriously doubt United forking out £100 million in 2 seasons.

Anyway, Stand United's comment is correct. Bingo doesn't know, neither do you and neither do i, so its not a fact, is it?


7.) 22 Sep 2017 11:09:00
2016/17
The amount paid by English clubs to agents has risen by 38% in a year - up from £160m to £220m.

The Premier League paid £174m to agents, up from £130m, with Manchester City being the biggest spenders (£26.3m) ahead of Chelsea (£25.1m) and Manchester United (£19m)


8.) 22 Sep 2017 12:52:57
they do have a better chance than us winning the League.


9.) 22 Sep 2017 14:01:02
Depends on where you read the figures Reynard.

Who knows what you can believe, but according to Transfermarkt the cost of Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Bailly, Lukaku, Lindelof and Matic is a combined £314.4m.

According the another article from the BBC (the same source as you) Raiola pocketed £43m from the Pogba transfer alone, of which only £23m was reportedly covered in the transfer fee. So there is £20m alone that someone has paid. Maybe it wasn't all covered by United or maybe the BBC have fabricated their figures somewhere. Who knows.

What you cannot ignore is that on top of the £314m, United have also paid a significant signing on fee (spread over his contract) to Ibrahimovic which will have been disregarded as part of his wages by most sources. Wrong, it is a transfer associated cost. On top of this you have to pay agent fees, legal fees, an administration charge for the registration, legal fees, a signing on fee and various other hidden costs such as relocation costs, insurance costs and more. You can bet your house Raiola milked the Lukaku transfer as well!

It could easily exceed £400m when these costs are considered before you even get into the cost of the contracts and bonuses attached.

I didn't see Bingos post, but if he did state any figures as Fact, then the guy has made an honest mistake. The point is United have blown everyone in world football except PSG out of the water with their transfer business in the last 2 years and i am not certain, but pretty confident the combined costs will exceed £400m. Ed002 did a superb post on all the costs involved which will help some to understand how expensive it can get when signing new players. This lack of understanding from the fans is a massive issue for FSG in particular who have been accused of us breaking even or there about in recent years, which is again total rubbish. Maybe the transfer fees, possibly. But definitely not when you include all the additional costs. No idea what to search for to find Ed002's post. Try 'agent fee'.


10.) 22 Sep 2017 14:23:53
Why would anyone compare UTD spending to any team in Europe let alone liveroool! They are the wealthiest club in the world surpassing Real and Barcelona by some distance! For every £X mill spend by liverpool on a player UTD cluld double it easily!


11.) 22 Sep 2017 15:28:09
Agreed MK. there is no certainty but this is exactly why Ed002 sensibly keeps telling us to stop talking about money as we have no idea. the fact is there are multiple versions of the truth out there, lol.


12.) 22 Sep 2017 16:45:26
Clyne gets slated a lot but defencively he is the best RB at the club. Gomes does well there and taa is excellent going forward but I've noticed teams target that RB position atm. I may be the only one but I can't wait for him to recover because we need more experience in our defence.

Afternoon ed01, hope you're well. Any idea when we can expect Clyne back? Cheers mate.


 

 

18 Sep 2017 01:46:15
BingoRed,

"United have one good player, Matic". Your words. So you don't think De Gea (best in the world) , Bailly, Valencia (best RB in league for 2 years) , Pogba (world class in the making), Miki ( top player) , Martial and Rashford (massive potential, both still kids) , Lukaku (only Aguero scored more goals in last 4 PL seasons) , Mata to name a few, are good players? What about Romero? He'd walk into your side. You really do talk some rubbish.

Stand-United

1.) 18 Sep 2017 04:53:11
you guys have a lot of good players, i will be the first one to agree that your summary about your players is quite fair. i would honestly take few of them to Lfc. in all honesty our players are not as bad as they looked in the last week or d
so, its the stubborn system we play with. one has to find a system which suits their player and bring positive result.


2.) 18 Sep 2017 06:25:02
I like Matic (I reckon he might well be the buy of the season for how he improves your side) . De Gea would walk in as would Bailly and Pogba. I like Rashford and Martial but as you said they are kids with potential and wouldn't force their way into our side atm (Mane and Salah would keep them out with the way we play) . Im not sold on Lukaku (i think he goes missing when the going gets tough) but can see why you like him. Valencia has come on leaps and bounds and would force his way into our side except that would block TAA and Gomez so would say no. I have loved Mata (the way he controls matches in great) for ages and longed for Miki to come to us years ago but we would either have to change our setup or have them compete with Coutinho. So DeGea, Bailly and Pogba would be definites. Matic and Valencia probables but not sure about the others.


3.) 18 Sep 2017 06:49:39
I want tl see ward atleast once before i let romero walk into our side.


4.) 18 Sep 2017 06:52:54
I think it's fair to say, most Liverpool fans, most fans generally know United have a very good side this season with a top manager (as much as I'm not a fan of him or his style of play and lack of fair play) .
Unless there's some form of implosion from both, it's fair top say both Manchester clubs will be there or thereabouts in May.
We'll do well to stay near the top 4 until we fix our defence.


5.) 18 Sep 2017 07:04:02
Again, as much as i hate to agree with a United fan, but i agree pretty much with Stand United, especially his last sentence.


6.) 18 Sep 2017 08:13:54
I am a big time fan of you Irish 😎😎.


7.) 18 Sep 2017 08:41:51
Stand, I meant to say that the only player who played well vs Everton was Matic. That was my main point.


8.) 18 Sep 2017 08:42:31
And right back at tcha, Irish.


9.) 18 Sep 2017 08:51:14
I think city will win the league personally. They have so much going forward, and although the CB's are poor they're not conceding. Ederson is much better than bravo and hart, both crap.


10.) 18 Sep 2017 09:41:53
Spot on, Stand BUT it's too early to say as some are saying on here, that Utd or even City will win the PL. We all know that happened last season and what happened at the end? City scraped 3rd (3 points ahead of us and Utd pretty much gave up the PL and focused on the EL so let's just wait and see. Also remember that Utd have the easiest schedule to start the season right now of any of the top 6 so the real show starts afterwards. We shall see.


11.) 18 Sep 2017 10:16:01
I fail to see it with Romero personally, wouldn't want any keeper who is delighted to warm the bench for months at a time as my number one. If de gea was to leave and Romero become no1 it wouldn't be long before yous were splashin 70 mil on another one.


12.) 18 Sep 2017 10:48:45
Bingo does have a bias against Man Utd I will give you that Stand. Lukaku, Miki, Pogba, Bailly, Matic, De Gea, Rashford are players that will make any team a frightening prospect. They will walk into most teams and Jose knows how to get the best out of them.

You lot are title contenders, LFC are not and I admit that. Jose has specialists for every position in hi squad and the players seem to have a better idea of how to execute their responsibilities.

LFC on the other hand have too many similar players asked to do too many things at once, leading to break down of communication and confusion on the pitch.
But the season is still young and you never know what happens later on.


 

 

16 Sep 2017 20:37:11
Ed002, is your about. I remember you saying something along the lines of Klopp promising FSG the title. I'm sure I read that. If so was it in a certain timescale? All in wondering is, say Liverpool finished outside the top 4, or 4th, with no cup trophy either, would he keep his job this summer? Cheers ed.

Stand-United

{Ed002's Note - he promised to win it without making major changes to the team. One he got the job he said within three years.}


1.) 16 Sep 2017 21:45:23
He'll keep his job Stand stop getting excited. Can't say the same about Borinho though with all the hundreds of millions he's blowing. I can't wait for that to go south, which it will it always does with that narcassistic buffoon.


2.) 16 Sep 2017 21:53:37
I'm pretty sure he said in 4 seasons he would have a title ed.


3.) 16 Sep 2017 21:54:08
I thought he said at his first interview he would win at least 1 title in the first 4 years.


4.) 16 Sep 2017 22:47:19
You have to admire Klopps confidence and question the owners naivety at the same time.
I'm quite happy with our owners but if what you say is true then I have to question their knowledge of this business if they believed that.
Without the resources of the top 3 liverpool have next to zero chance of being champions as those top 3 do.
Why would those billionaire Glazers spend all those millions to win the league if they could do it spending less? They didn't make money being so naive.


5.) 16 Sep 2017 23:15:34
Don't get touché ings. I couldn't care less who your manager is as long as your not winning titles. If Jose doesn't improve on last season I expect he'll be on his way. It's the way football is these days. The big clubs don't stand still. If Liverpool don't win any trophy for a 3rd year under Klopp questions will need to be asked.


6.) 16 Sep 2017 23:23:37
Ron, you and DaRedMan are right. Some people can't wait to take a dig by exaggerating, or leaving out parts of what Klopp says. It's really getting annoying. If one is to be critical of the manager at least have the decency to be accurate with the criticism.


7.) 17 Sep 2017 00:28:10
Stand. I don't normally respond to u lot but u at least try to make constructive comments and I cringe at some of the responses.
Jose for me is a great manager. But he would not be a title challenger without the extortionate amount of money he has spent with either Chelsea or United.
Klopp like many does not have that luxury so comparing the two is irrelevant.
If the resources is not so necessary to win. . why does Jose need such vast amounts? The only manager to have spent over a billion pounds. for me it makes him an elite harry rednapp!
Money doesn't guarantee success but I lack of money guarantees a lack of it!


8.) 17 Sep 2017 00:38:34
I don't th8nk klopp made that promise for the job. He could cherry pick anywhere. We wanted him.

I think he has been asked and he's said it without to much depth but super confidence.

His contract length and the signing of keita says the club will back there man.


9.) 17 Sep 2017 00:45:55
Klopp has only been manager since October 2015. He's still to complete 2 full years. I'd like to see the footage of where he said he'd win the title in 3 or 4 seasons.
Was this said publicly or in private?
Once he gets to the start of next season we'll see his real team in my opinion.
He's almost got his attack the way he wants.
Keita is coming in the summer plus another CM I would suggest.
So he then needs to try to get in defensive players.
He'll sort it.
Not saying he'll win the league in the next couple of seasons, I'm not that idiotic or arrogant but if he can keep us in the top 4 this season, we can push on to challenge at least.
If people want him sacked, it's far too early for that.
Who would you want instead?
Klopp is 100% still the right man right now.

{Ed001's Note - Klopp did tell FSG he would win the title, Ed002 is correct. That does not mean it will happen, nor that it is a promise anyone will hold him to considering the changing situation. FSG and LFC are fully behind Klopp.}


10.) 17 Sep 2017 01:29:27
Agree with Stand here tbh. Big clubs don't stand still, they expect improvement and trophies year in year out coz that's what keeps top players at the club (and money of course) . It negates the need for an overhaul or rebuilding which our LFC has been too guilty of over the last 2 decades. By the time this season ends, it will have been nearly 3 seasons Klopp has been in charge. A league cup or FA Cup is the least we can expect right?

{Ed001's Note - why should that be the least? That is simply spoilt brat talk, expecting trophies. That is a want, a desire, never an expectation. What you should expect is progress. No club has a divine right to trophies and no fan should expect them.}


11.) 17 Sep 2017 01:30:32
When Matip and Klaven signed, Klopp said now judge me this is my team.


12.) 17 Sep 2017 01:17:19
Ed002, we all say things we regret? Hindsight .

{Ed002's Note - Sure, give it a few more years in transition.}


13.) 17 Sep 2017 18:39:56
If I don't hear it with my own ears I am extremely doubtful as it's then just hearsay, that's nothing personal. I'm pretty sure it'd be the same for you guys in a personnel reversal with this.


14.) 18 Sep 2017 00:59:50
I heard it.

He said in June 2016 after signing Mane, Karius, Matip, Klaven and Wiji.

He said, "judge me from now, this is my team, '

I remember because I thought why say it? As he had no need to set himself up,

That's a year ago last June.
It was the same time Sahko was banished to the u23s.

Pre Tapgate.


15.) 18 Sep 2017 06:46:31
And so from "judge me from now, this is my team, ' you somehow heard "I will win this club the league title in the next 2 to 3 seasons"? Brilliant! Mate, you should be working for the M15/ M16/ FBI. Incredible! Lol!


16.) 20 Sep 2017 03:37:17
I didn't mention anything about winning the league in 3 years,

What I should have said is,

What I heard him say was judge me now,

For me he's doing a good job,

3 losses since March isn't bad going.

And 1 of them was because of Manes sending off.


 

 

16 Sep 2017 17:37:11
I commented a few days ago you need a proper out and out class number 9, such as lewandowski, who seems to be upsetting a few, so could see move on shortly. Can't remember which poster but someone shot me down saying I've never watched Firmino.

I think firmino is a great player, but I stand by my thoughts on you needed a top class 9. Sturridge is done. You miss so many chances, surely a top class striker who would guarentee 30 goals is needed. Firmino won't score anywhere near that. And yes I know he creates.

Stand-United

1.) 16 Sep 2017 17:47:04
stand you talk more sense then many here. we do need a proper #9 who can score 20+ goals a season. now my Lfc friend here will say we have sturridge, i don't see him as one who can even be fit or start for 20 games in Prem. Firminio should play #10 never on the wings where he is wasted.


2.) 16 Sep 2017 17:48:42
Stand I agree. That's why I chose harry kane as the one premiership player I would have in my team if I could. I think sturridge deserves a decent chance however and although he didn't score today I was pleased to see him last the full ninety. He has had limited chances so far and already netted a couple. Firmino is fantastic and I see his true position as a number 10. I think Danny will score plenty if given the chance bur our system is geared toward spreading the goals between four five players. I prefer this as we are not reliant on one player. Take out lukaku kane Sanches and you have to ask "where are the goals coming from? "


3.) 16 Sep 2017 17:52:43
Great? I wouldn't go that far Stand. He's a decent player though Yes. Not sure why Lewandowski would leave BM to join Liverpool. If he was available there would be no shortage of admirers. Real Madrid being one of them. I think someone like Morata would have fit nicely in the Liverpool set up.


4.) 16 Sep 2017 17:57:38
We can't defend so we concede every game ( I had a bet with Ed025 that we will concede against Burnley ) you can't blame attackers for not scoring 4 and 5 every game! That's a dumb logic!


5.) 16 Sep 2017 18:06:47
Firmino is a very good false 9 but then needs dangerous forwards with space to get in behind, and midfielders able to score and make dangerous runs.

Unfortunately it's also clear when we try move him wide to cover a missing winger, Sturridge is not at the level he used to be and I don't think moving Firmino wide and playing Sturridge upfront works - they play too similar a game with both dropping deep.

Would rather have seen Solanke start upfront who provides a real presence in the box all the time or started Firmino upfront and the Ox out wide.


6.) 16 Sep 2017 18:10:41
Superred, I think Sturridge is a quality player, and if he gets a run in the side there's no doubt about it he will score plenty. The problem is we all know it's just a matter of when not if, injury strikes again. You can't rely on that. I'd drop firmino into number 10 and sign a top number 9.

Syd, morata would of done well for Liverpool I agree. Definatly a position I think they lack in, apart from the obvious back 5.


7.) 16 Sep 2017 18:14:31
Harry, nobody is denying the problems with your back 5. I couldn't agree more. But when your having 30 odd shots you really should be scoring more than one. It was united problem all season last year. We ended up drawing about 13 games in the league and it cost us top 4. Luckily Jose identified that and Lukaku was signed. He basically guarentes 30 a season. Have to ask why was OX signed? Big sum of money and really isn't a top player. Strange one for me that.


8.) 16 Sep 2017 18:17:00
Bobby was moved out wide today to accommodate Sturridge. Yes he lacks goals but Bibby is one hell of a player both technically and work rate.


9.) 16 Sep 2017 18:31:42
£35m for a very ordinary player when we're screaming out for a top quality centre back is negligence personified. Sturridge looks finished to me. His movement is not good any more and it's clear that injury has taken its toll.


10.) 16 Sep 2017 18:35:03
Firmino for all the good he does at number 9, anywhere in the midfield or wide he's absolutely Useless.


11.) 16 Sep 2017 18:48:34
Far too soon to judge ox.


12.) 16 Sep 2017 18:54:49
To get the best out of our forward we need to line up 442. That way Milner needn't of started today. Can and Hendo can get the understanding they need in that cm position. We have the perfect wingers to play this formation in mane salah and ox. More chances for dom too. Then there is cout's lallana wijnaldum. With this many cms he has to play three there.


13.) 16 Sep 2017 19:22:50
Superred, not judging ox on his Liverpool career. Just his career as a whole. Not an elite player, never hasn't been. Not saying he's poor. Just think £40m should of been spent elsewhere in your side than a bench warmer.


14.) 16 Sep 2017 20:55:17
Agree 110% Stand United. He's a very ordinary player and it's negligent to spend £35m on a bench warmer when we're so badly lacking in defence and in terms of a 20+ a season striker.


15.) 16 Sep 2017 21:23:30
Stand go back to your site, we're far too busy with self flagellation at the mo, your talking too much sense.


16.) 17 Sep 2017 04:11:40
I am starting to agree with that sentiment, Stand.

You put the inventiveness of, say, Aguero ( see his 3rd goal today) at the sharp end of 30+ chances, you're going to win the game.


17.) 17 Sep 2017 04:12:58
Did we need a proper no. 9 when we have scored goals for fun since Klopp arrived or when we should have put 8 past Arsenal? Nonsense, again. We already had a no. 9. His name was Benteke and he was a disaster and still is at CP as he is lazy as hell. Now, that we are not as clinical as we would like, the "specialists" are out in force again. Give it a rest. We are top 5 in goals scored since Klopp arrived and had we been more clinical in the CL and made better decisions today, this would have not been an issue. Change the record, guys. It's getting boring.


18.) 17 Sep 2017 17:44:45
BingoRed is comparing Benteke to Lewandowski 😂😂and calling everyone else "specialists".

We don't need a number 9 but had we been more clinical we'd have won. You couldn't write it, oh wait.


 

 

 

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02 Aug 2017 22:46:46
Superred, you can't sell him for £10m, yet you want to ask for £20m min?

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27 Jul 2017 18:20:44
Great player but he's not in the top 5 in the world mate.

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28 Apr 2017 21:03:45
Reason I asked on here was because I was wondering if Liverpool showed interest.

Ed, I agree, considering the seasons been a bit stop start with ACON and a couple of injuries, every time he has played he's been outstanding. Looks the real deal. Need to find him a partner now.

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{Ed001's Note - don't worry Stand, I understood why you asked here. Excellent player, who has years to grow as a player as well.}


 

 

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26 Jan 2016 22:53:28
6 disagree? Lol. Who thinks Liverpool can sign messi and bale too?

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26 Jan 2016 21:51:07
Why in this earth would one of if not the best CF leave Bayern to join Liverpool with probably no CL football again?

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14 Oct 2017 10:21:12
You are having a laugh Bingo.

Klipperty the clown is the Media darling. The whole jumping round, hugging, kissing, linking arms to solute the draw cringy thing is loved by the media.

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05 Oct 2017 21:32:39
Messi and Bale. Easiest pick by far.

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03 Oct 2017 23:06:05
United played in Russia 24 hours after Liverpool and kicked off in the prem 24 hours earlier on the weekend after returning. Didn't make much difference as we won and you drew. Same for both teams.

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Superred91

"Can, Ox, Robertson, TAA, Milner, Karius, all players that could walk into nearly any side"

What have you been smoking pal? Jesus.

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03 Oct 2017 10:10:38
It's a result business. And the so called lesser teams who don't have £30m to send on Mane, or £30m to spend on Salah, or £40m to spend on Ox, have to find a way to pick up points and stay in the premier league. It's their right to do that anyway they need to. And it's you MANAGERS job to find a way around it. The fact your moaning about the way teams set up against you just because your not winning games is laughable.

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{Ed001's Note - hardly laughable, your manager does that every time his team fails to win. It is just the modern way - excuses.}