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02 Jun 2017 11:35:33
Hi Eds.
Any views from around the club in John Flanagan?
I know the loan season didn't go as planned but on the pitch he has never let anyone down and shows the heart of a lion. Will he be given a shot in pre-season?


{Ed025's Note - i very much doubt it fitz..

1.) 02 Jun 2017 12:42:35
No definitely, he's barely featured for Burnley. Seems a great honest lad, but his knee injuries have had killed any bit of his speed. Should move to the championship and get a few few seasons under his belt.

2.) 02 Jun 2017 13:43:21
I read an article after his breakthrough season that said on average he was taken on more per game than any other full back in the league. That's stuck with me that Maybe we got carried away on him a little. Obviously injuries have struck but maybe he just wasn't as good as we all thought.

3.) 02 Jun 2017 14:20:52
I saw him in the bar of the Radisson in Manchester after Burney had been knocked out of the cup, by Lincoln I think? He was caning the beers with Joey Barton, so if he's been hanging out with that bell end and listening to his career advice his is virtually over. Shame as I liked him when he broke through.

{Ed025's Note - comparing him to barton is a terrible thing to say about a bell end pieboy.. :)

4.) 02 Jun 2017 14:37:06
Personally think the injuries have taken too much of a toll on him, sorry to say as he was very promising.

5.) 02 Jun 2017 15:38:09
Hanging out with Barton? Damn, that's bad news. Thanks Ed and all.




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10 Mar 2018 01:48:32
Just watched a UTube clip of Totti's last game for Roma. A reminder of what football can be about.

So EDs, what do you think, let's talk about picking an all time worlds greatest 11 of one club players who could have moved to other clubs and won more but didn't. So if they were at a club winning leagues etc they don't count. If like Gerard they finished the twilight of their career somewhere else in a lesser league for a season or two they still count (ie they would have stayed longer if age hadn't caught up with them)

Names like Gerard and Totti come to my mind. I remember Le Tissier in his day. To give him his due, John Terry came through the ranks at Chelsea didn't he? Casillias in goal for Real. Paulo Maldini, Franco Baresi etc. So what do you all think?


{Ed001's Note - Terry, Cassillas and Maldini won titles mate. I am pretty sure Baresi did as well.}

1.) 10 Mar 2018 04:26:26
Alan shearer, in an odd way. I know he played for Southampton and Blackburn but he spurned a lot of interest to go and stay at Newcastle.

{Ed001's Note - he turned down Ferguson's Man Utd when they were winning everything to stay with Newcastle on more than one occasion.}

2.) 10 Mar 2018 09:53:43
Gk: Rogerio Ceni (Sao Paulo)
Cb Jack Charlton (Leeds)
Cb: Jamie Carragher (Liverpool)
Cb: Ledley King (Spurs)
Rm: Gary Kelly (Leeds)
Cm: Danielle De Rossi (Roma)
Cm: Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
Lm: Kenny Jacket (Watford)
Cam: Matthew Le Tissier (Southampton)
Cam: Francesco Totti (Roma)
St: Santiago Bernabeu (Real Madrid)

Took me ages to think of this side 😂 does Ceni count? He won a lot of titles but they were in a financially poor league, and he could easily have got a move to a big club in Europe if he'd wanted. Jack Charlton only won one league title but played for Leeds for 2 decades so I figured it would be fair to include him. Gerrard was allowed by the OP. Bernabeu stuck with Real Madrid at a time when Spanish football was in disarray and then helped to transform them from the dugout and the boardroom. He is the Madrid Equivalent of Bill Shankly and Kenny Dalglish combined.



03 Mar 2018 21:18:52
Forgive me this self serving post.

I've posted on here a few times over the last few years about Klopp's progress. Normally it was after things were not going well and so I was pointing out we had to be patient and let him build.

Basically my point was that Klopp doesn't have the budget to change a team in 2 or 3 transfer windows like Man City or Man Utd and that it would take him 3 Summer transfer windows to build his team, to take chances on some players and give others coaching and time, some would work, some wouldn't, like it was in the 80s and 90s for all managers. Also I pointed out that while he never spoke of it publically he had to move out a lot of players and did not have the budget (or attractiveness as a club) to target A grade players before getting back into and then thriving in the Champs League.

Seeing it happening is exciting. I think we will finish 2nd and have a real crack off the Champions League (I also said this re. the Champions league on here near the start of the season due to how most teams in the Champs league set up) .

Next season it will be the team that Klopp (and his coaching team) built, coached and evolved. We will take on everyone.

Klopp could have gone to more successful clubs (in recent decades) with bigger budgets. He refused Man Utd. and other clubs but as he said himself he told his wife while on his coaching break 'if Liverpool call I won't be able to say no'. He is a romantic believer and wanted the Liverpool challenge of restoring the club to the top, a good way to go but on track. YNWA.


{Ed025's Note - good post that fitzy..

1.) 03 Mar 2018 22:19:44
Brilliant post, Fitzy. I love Klopp, worts and all and he's like family. Sometimes, you wanna bash their heads in and other times, you wanna hug them tight. I just hope he can get us some pots to crown his already impressive body of work that he has achieved in such a short time, esp. judging by how far behind our current rivals, we were when he came to us.

2.) 03 Mar 2018 22:33:45
Great post Brover especially point about Klopp being like family.

3.) 03 Mar 2018 23:02:11
Cracking post that fitzy. Love it. Klopp is taking us places. Feeling pretty sure about that and I am enjoying the football we are playing under him. He is assembling a real team capable of fighting for trophies and it’s exciting times to be a Liverpool supporter. I love the passion he shows at the side of the pitch (maybe ridiculous to some) but I saw an interview with VVD saying how the boys love it and it installs a positive feeling in them, makes them feel like he believes in them. He really is building something special.

Special mention to Karius and the Ox today. 👏👏👏.

4.) 04 Mar 2018 11:11:43
Calm down.



03 Mar 2018 21:05:20
I saw a Melissa Reddy piece a few months ago. She wrote about an interview the Ox gave when he first joined Arsenal. He spoke about how at Southampton his game was about carrying the ball, running at the defense and setting up a team mate or shooting. He then spoke about how the manager at Arsenal wanted him to play a different way now, pass and move more and not shoot from outside the box so much. He was then positive avout learning this new way.

I guess Klopp remembered the skill set that had the Ox burst onto the scene in the first place. Interviews with the Ox and Klopp now are all about him taking on the defence and shooting more. It's working well so far.


1.) 03 Mar 2018 22:28:25
I was a HUGE Ox critic and did not want him here, like many others. I did say if he did sign, he would get my support and that has not changed. Ox is a diffent kind of CAM as one who is not a playmaker like Cou is or was BUT one who can run at a team, right at the heart of their defence that will have to make them commit and when they do, the attacking options are there for him to choose from.

Klopp always had a plan for Ox as he knew prolly that Cou could go and instead of looking for some over-priced playmaker who's not at Cou's level, he chose to change the way we attack teams by adding more thrust, energy and pace in the CAM position and it is paying dividends and we still have the Cou money untouched. Shows why Klopp is the manager and I'm not, lol.

2.) 04 Mar 2018 06:57:00
I read an interesting article that the Ox was also a decent rugby player as a kid hence his tendency to be direct and drive at the defence.

{Ed001's Note - he was and went to a rugby playing school, rather than a football one. He is quite a posh kid, as the surname suggests. It is a very unusual route for a footballer, they normally are not from well off families. It does show that you don't need to come from nothing to have the drive and determination to prove yourself and to make it though.}



11 Feb 2018 16:28:21
Alan Smith on sky sports has just said it's not a penalty for Liverpool. steady on Alan, the game hasn't kicked off yet!


1.) 11 Feb 2018 18:51:10
Can’t stand him he’s boring and god awful, he talks more crap than I do.

2.) 11 Feb 2018 19:40:05
Plus he can say his R’s.

3.) 11 Feb 2018 20:30:45
Is he still droning about the pen that even LFC players did not appeal for? He must like the sound of his own voice, IMO.

4.) 11 Feb 2018 21:30:18
Oh Alan Smith please give me strength and not in a good way.



12 Jan 2018 22:19:41
If one player doesn't press or doesn't press effectively in a high press team then the whole system falls down.

Couthino brought so much to the team when in possession he had to play. But wasn't as effective when we were not in possession.

So just for banter, let me throw a question out there.

While we will of course miss what Couthino can do on the ball, is it possible that overall the Klopp system will work better without him?

What do you all think?


1.) 12 Jan 2018 23:10:54
good question Fitzy, I think that if we can try and win the ball back quicker, then move the ball forward faster, and we can do this, we will become a better team .

2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:26:03
He’s a massive loss, a world class player.
So I think we are obviously a weaker team without him.

Regarding your question about the system working better, i don’t think we are much of a gengenpressing team as klopps Dortmund, or in fact klopps first 6-12 months as manager here at Liverpool. Wether that was down to coutinho not pressing or klopp changing his tactics I don’t know.
But I think keita will improve our midfield massively and start moulding that spine back into the team.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 00:03:15
The stats on the sightings page tell the story. We have better results without him this season. It is clear to see when watching us that his off the ball work is abysmal. His excellent abilities at free kicks, other goals outside the box, and wonderful defence splitting passes will be missed at times, but overall the team performs better when he isn't on the pitch.

4.) 13 Jan 2018 00:30:02
Klopp probably changed the tactic slightly Liam seeing how gengenpressing can (and did) really backfire a lot worse in the prem compared to the bundesliga

But it could also be because it was taking too much a toll on the players such as Couts who wasn’t the type of player to press much.




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06 Jan 2018 22:59:31
Can we please stick in a condition in the contract that he fixes his hair.




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01 Jan 2018 14:20:16
Every player needs real competition for his place to acheive and maintain top performance. Clyne has that now on his return. He might surprise a few on here.




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31 Aug 2017 20:40:26
What deal? There isn't one.




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27 Aug 2017 19:36:05
If Mignolet goes and we need a third keeper for cover, Given is looking for a club.





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08 Feb 2018 07:42:47
I'm amazed to see lists above of a top 3 not including Keane. If he was from a big football nation it wouldn't even be a question. No matter what Fergusion said after their falling out Keane was his captain and first name on the team sheet as they won all around them. When he made Veira back down in the tunnel it ended that particular debate!




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26 Jan 2018 10:43:15
I don't always agree with you ED02 but I do on this thread. Great stuff!




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25 Jan 2018 08:47:55
I fully agree with using the word 'bravery'. Salah spent the last game making those short diagonal bursts of runs through the centre halves but for most of the game the midfielders weren't brave enough to try and find him. They have the ability to do it and have to try, maybe they will step up now, hopefully.




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20 Jan 2018 22:25:36
He was one of our best last season. Had a serious injury so his season is just starting now and you post that crap. What nonsense.




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20 Jan 2018 00:22:19
Well if Sturidge is leaving we'd better sign Bale. Otherwise 2 physios face redundancy.