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02 Jun 2017 11:35:33
Hi Eds.
Any views from around the club in John Flanagan?
I know the loan season didn't go as planned but on the pitch he has never let anyone down and shows the heart of a lion. Will he be given a shot in pre-season?

Fitzy

{Ed025's Note - i very much doubt it fitz..


1.) 02 Jun 2017 12:42:35
No definitely, he's barely featured for Burnley. Seems a great honest lad, but his knee injuries have had killed any bit of his speed. Should move to the championship and get a few few seasons under his belt.


2.) 02 Jun 2017 13:43:21
I read an article after his breakthrough season that said on average he was taken on more per game than any other full back in the league. That's stuck with me that Maybe we got carried away on him a little. Obviously injuries have struck but maybe he just wasn't as good as we all thought.


3.) 02 Jun 2017 14:20:52
I saw him in the bar of the Radisson in Manchester after Burney had been knocked out of the cup, by Lincoln I think? He was caning the beers with Joey Barton, so if he's been hanging out with that bell end and listening to his career advice his is virtually over. Shame as I liked him when he broke through.

{Ed025's Note - comparing him to barton is a terrible thing to say about a bell end pieboy.. :)


4.) 02 Jun 2017 14:37:06
Personally think the injuries have taken too much of a toll on him, sorry to say as he was very promising.


5.) 02 Jun 2017 15:38:09
Hanging out with Barton? Damn, that's bad news. Thanks Ed and all.


 

 

 

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20 Oct 2017 13:51:52
I was watching the goals from when we beat Spurs 0-5. What struck me was how involved Henderson was. He was playing a freer more attacking midfielder role at the time and was heavily involved in the first 3 goals, scoring one of them.

He was constantly making runs into the box passing the strikers and moving defenders around, creating space for the other forwards.

I remember when we last challanged for the title and lost at home to Chelsea (the famous slip) . Henderson was suspended and we missed him. Against a team that sits back, a midfielder to constantly make runs into the box and through the defenders is oft a thankless job as the ball will almost never come to you. So most automatically stop agter a while and look for the ball deeper. But making those runs does make a half yard of space here and there as the centre halves take a step left or right to cover/ block the run. Sometimes a half yard is all players like Couts, Bobby or Salah need. Henderson doesn't stop making those runs when in a role allowing him to.

I know his role has changed due to injury etc but it's a pity. He was really good at it.

Fitzy

1.) 20 Oct 2017 14:06:20
Spot on, Fitzy. Like you, I do not have a short memory. Hendo was a key cog in our play throughout that season and the fact that BR wanted rid of him for the supremely inferior Joe Allen, is a bullet we dodged royally as BR's incompetence would have done us in on that front. Remember his goal at Anfield vs City in 14/ 15 and his goal vs Chelsea last season? Yeah, Hendo actually did that.

Many of his detractors seem (some, conveniently) to have forgotten his great contribution to that season and our play. The fact that his heel condition and injuries have slowed him down, does not change the fact that when fit and on form, he is a very good player nor the great contributions he has made to this club's progress. You don't become LFC and England capt. if you are a scrub.


2.) 20 Oct 2017 14:09:47
It is devastating to see him like this. He clearly isn't right and i fear Ed001's prediction may be correct, and he may be replaced next summer if nothing changes.

You have to love the guy for his passion, desire, and commitment but at the end of the day, we want to win titles. If Hendo can't get back to full fitness, we have to move on and maybe he accepts a squad player role like Lucas did, or he goes elsewhere in search of first team football.

Ideally the injury clears up because as you say, he was top class a few years ago. I watched him from the Kop when we beat City 2-1 in 2015, and he was the best midfielder on the pitch by far on that day. City didn't get a kick and Hendo capped it off by putting one in the top corner from 25 yards. He really was vastly under rated. Nowadays it is getting harder and harder to dispute the criticism because he just doesn't have it in him to keep proving them wrong.

Milner does not deserve to be dropped after Tuesday.


3.) 20 Oct 2017 14:34:35
Haha Have a look how involved Suarez was.


4.) 20 Oct 2017 14:50:36
Coz he was natural and his role was to win and press the ball high! He wasn’t asked to sit deep and protect the defense or create / launch attacks from the deep! So he was good infact very good.

Some plonker decided to drop him deep and signed many more players similar to Henderson which will eventually see him getting sold! You can say thank you to those fools!

Hendeson is neither a Playmkaer nor a DM. He is a ball winner and one he was very good at it 3 years ago! Now it was your stupidity to drop him deep and NOT Buying a player that should have replaced Alonso or Gerrard in the deep.

Keep playing players out of their natural roles!


5.) 20 Oct 2017 15:29:02
He didn't score enough- just lacked that little bit of composure. That's my only criticism. I'd love to see him back at his best, let's hope there's progress with his injuries. Im sorry mk- I just can't see why Milner deserves to keep his place against a team who offered no resistance. If he played that well against a premier league team then you may be right- as it is, he's certainly done nothing to hurt his chances but I doubt he's suddenly become the answer to our midfield woes. The only one I thought who didn't perform was gini- so if klopp was to drop one of the three- he might be the first.


6.) 20 Oct 2017 15:48:20
I disagree on Milner aoe. I don't think the opposition comes into it. It wasn't that he was better than Henderson, it was that he gave us more balance, was fitter than Henderson, and played well enough to keep his place. There is no point in having competition for places if Klopp sends out the message "it doesn't matter how well you play, I'll still pick my favourites".

I do agree on Gini though. I'd drop him, put Coutinho in midfield and put Chamberlain on the wing. Aurier would get roasted by the pace of Moreno and the Ox. He'd end up getting sent off because he cannot tackle for toffee.


7.) 20 Oct 2017 16:17:48
i just think Milner is really good at running around. Energy is always welcome but he's a terrible habit of leaving a great deal of space in the midfield. I always feel the rest of the midfield don't play as well with him on the pitch. He lunges into tackles when a bit of harrying will do instead. His crossing can be quite effective on occasion but for some reason never from a deadball situation. His passing can be horrendous when he is rushed and unfortunately he gives the ball away too often. It's a shame because he has a great attitude. I thought he made a decent left back- if nothing more than having the time to put in a cross from deep. I too would like to see coutinho in midfield cos he's far tougher than he looks. Thing is, I'm not sure he's fit yet.


8.) 20 Oct 2017 22:12:41
Totally different players Hendo and milly. Miner was amazing against maribor. Let's get it right, they aren't a poor side, we made me look poor. Perhaps Hendon miner and can or wijnaldum on Sunday.


9.) 21 Oct 2017 09:05:47
What is the injury? I know it's the heal by is it not something that could be fixed with an operation?

{Ed025's Note - it was a thigh problem mate..


 

 

14 Oct 2017 12:29:40
Liverpool at 33/ 1 to win the title.

Win this game and next 2 and that all changes.

Fitzy

1.) 14 Oct 2017 13:34:35
Win the next 25 and we'd be favourites.


2.) 14 Oct 2017 18:32:08
1 win in 8, I think the bookies know what they're doing.


 

 

22 Sep 2017 00:06:10
We don't have the budgets of the Manchester Clubs, Chelsea or even Arsenal (if they ever decided to spend) .

Managers at those first 3 clubs generally do get big budgets to bring in the players they want within 2 Summer transfer windows, they are then expected to deliver success.

We don't have such budgets so imo our manager should be given 3 Summer transfer windows to build his team. When a manager comes into a club the average remaining years on a players contract in the 1st team squad is probably 3 years. So if he has to balance the books somewhat and trade well it will take 3 Summer Transfer windows. The winter transfer windows, whilst having thrown up the odd nugget are not a good time to do business.

So what has Klopp done in his 2 Summer transfer windows to date?
Well in his first one, having given every player in his first team squad a decent run of games to take a look at them he moved out something like 13 players and brought in 6 (I think) . I believe some of those 6 were not his primary targets but they would do to get us into the top 4 and back into the Champions League which would increase his budget.

In the 2nd transfer window I think he changed tactic. He decided he already has a squad to compete for top 4 and now wanted to build a squad to win the league. So he decided who his targets were to make this happen and if the club couldn't deliver all of them right now he would wait until next season to get them rather than accepting a B or C choice who would get long contracts and only continue the cycle of mediocrity for another 3 to 5 years. That is what happened in the past and we all complained about it.

Also, anyone who manages groups of people know, if you set a low bar it will just about be met but not surpassed. That goes for transfer committee's and CEOs as well. In the past when they didn't deliver the 'A' signing but instead got Balotelli they could say the Manager signed off on all signings. This year they couldn't say that. They either succeeded or failed in getting the targetted player in. Hell they even came up with an inventive solution to secure Keita. Don't under estimate how important setting a new bar for success or failure in signings is for the club.

So we need to give the manager some more time. Like it or not we have the purse strings of Spurs but with some of our fans having the ego of City.

Fitzy

1.) 22 Sep 2017 04:54:48
We have the budget. we would have spent more than united and arsenal this window if we got both Keita and vvd.
He desperately wanted a defender he should have bought one. I think he missed the trick when he went for AOC instead of a defender. Bar that I agree I would give klopp enough time to bring in defensive reinforcements and then see how we perform.
Right now I don't think klopp can do anything with defensive errors and lapses every game. He can't be blamed for players foolishness. Like all of us he is also sick of it;)


2.) 22 Sep 2017 05:51:24
Constructive criticism

Akshit

He is the one responsible for the 4 players still at the club i. e. ( Klavan, Matip, Lovren and Mignolet ) under his regime both the defense and midfield has been utter mediocre.

{Ed001's Note - what is constructive about that? Try again Harry, that was far from constructive.}


3.) 22 Sep 2017 06:01:27
I ll change it to destructive criticism / bitter truth / Smell the coffee / hard life / Reality Ed01 😄😄😄.

{Ed001's Note - I would have gone with repetitive whinging personally..... :-P


4.) 22 Sep 2017 06:09:28
I know you would definitely go with that! You too are a part of super aliens Ed01 😄.

{Ed001's Note - I just don't see the point in judging this early in the season. The title is not won or lost over 5 games, no matter what the morons in the media may tell you. The team that gets the best start very rarely is the one that goes on to win the league. It is easier to improve on a poor start than it is to maintain good performances.}


5.) 22 Sep 2017 06:26:02
Exactly i think Klopp needs to be given time to bring in his defensive reinforcements to judge him.
he is dead under pan with this defense because our defenders continue to make foolish mistakes every game and i can't blame a coach for player mistakes. i think for most of the game we are defensively organised and we do well and out of nowhere somebody gets on the roofies kick in one of defenders and he does something that cannot be explained by people on this planet and with our luck we get punished.
Hard to blame the manager for that, i am just glad he doesn't have sharp objects around him every time he sees that kind of stupidity :P.


6.) 22 Sep 2017 06:41:40
Ed001 while I agree, I think what worries some (including myself) is that apart fixing left back and getting in Salah, we still have the same ongoing issues from last season. And for some reason they feel even worse this time - I believe because we had higher expectations to the transfer window and our team improvements in general.

But you're right, a few games of bad form shouldn't define how the whole season pans out. And whilst the issues we currently have is a little bit worrying hopefully a win tomorrow could turn it around a bit as I still believe we could go on to have a very proper season overall.

{Ed001's Note - it is raised expectations that are the problem mate. People expected us to go out and blast every other team away for some reason. It is a lack of realistic expectations, added to an inability to look at things in perspective and without this bizarre sense of entitlement so many people have. For some reason they think they are entitled to expect everything they want now, rather than backing the team as they work to achieve it.}


7.) 22 Sep 2017 07:03:06
Oh c'mon Ed01, You sound like bingo now! Raising expectations? Putting things into perspective and be a realist? I want this club to win or try to win title every season! Put me in any group it doesn't matter! We had the money to buy and we did not!

{Ed001's Note - I sound like a sensible person, you sound like an entitled brat expecting everything. I understand that sometimes things are not that easy. This is not FIFA or Football Manager, you can't just throw money at it and suddenly all the problems are fixed. Spurs have taken years to build, they are who we have to compare ourselves to right now. They have many times come away from a transfer window frustrated by a failure to get the right players, but they have gradually built up a team. Why can't we do the same?}


8.) 22 Sep 2017 07:10:48
It's a good point Ed001 makes, Chelsea prime example last season and if you remember the latter years of Fergie's teams, they always turned the corner after Christmas.

But, I totally agree with WCD, we make the same mistakes at the back over and over, the same mistakes as last season and the same mistakes under BR.

We talk about waiting to sign a world class CB but can we afford? Not just the transfer fees but the salaries? Will they come to LFC, someone mentioned Cavani on another thread, Ed 001 very quite rightly said alluded - no chance.
A couple of days ago I said we should keep an eye on Toby Alderweireld's contract situation at Spurs - Replies comments included, he won't come to us, bigger clubs out there, couldn't afford him etc etc.

I understand that Klopp plays a certain way and seeks players that fit in with this but when it comes to CB you need

I don't understand why Klopp put all his eggs in one basket with VVD because in other areas targeted he had other options, Salah for instance was not his first choice.

The trouble now is that teams know they have a great chance of scoring against us and this gives them a physiological boost.

I understand that Klopp plays a certain way and seeks players that fit in with this mould but we also need someone at the back that can lead the back four and be solid in the air, attack and head the ball when the opposition cross the ball from corners and set pieces. A basic trait but these are just some of the basic errors that surface every game.

{Ed001's Note - it is simple, there is a surfeit of attacking player but a dearth of good defensive players to choose from. All the top clubs had similar problems recruiting a centre back this summer, there just are so few of real quality clubs were not letting them go. Even a good, rather than top class, defender like Evans was impossible to buy this summer. I mean how many times have Man City been priced out of buying a player they desperately need before?}


9.) 22 Sep 2017 07:31:59
We can do the same but we seem incapable of signing defenders or decent ones at least. the area we have been poor in since rafa. Why haven't we added any eds?

{Ed001's Note - I just answered this in the reply above.}


10.) 22 Sep 2017 07:46:55
One thing I find notable is that, after two summer windows, there are only three Klopp signings established as first choice; Mane, Salah and Matip. If VVD and Keita had come this summer then it would have been 5 and Roberson may become another but, as it stands, it's just three. I would have thought that's quite uncommon.


11.) 22 Sep 2017 07:47:43
Great post, Fitzy. Loved every word of it and you have diagnosed the situation seamlessly. Bravo, sir. On the CB tip, Klopp bought Matip as a stop gap until he finds the one he really wants and that is already causing issues so why should he buy another warm bod/ stop gap again? That is senseless. When that player starts making mistakes then people will be saying he should have just done a Milner at LB and kept the money instead of wasting it on a player he did not want. See how that works? That is hindsight crap that does my head in.

Harry, Ed is right. You always sound like a petulant, self- entitled brat and you're not the only one. You think we should just be steam-rolling teams at a canter and when that SHOCKINGLY, does not happen (when has that really happened), you and some of your ilk get on your soapboxes and start spouting crap about us not being ambitious and Klopp is a failure and blah, blah, blah. I was an amateur footballer and high school athlete. I know that you have to respect the oppo and the game. If you want to win, you have to bring it every time regardless of who compete in every game.

News Flash: We have been mediocre in the PL for over two decades now and have not seen CL footie at Anfield for 4 seasons. Now, you think we should just steamroll teams cos we are LFC? Your self entitlement and pompous attitude is deafening. You guys are part of the problem as there is NO perspective in any of your posts. We are who we are and NOT in City or Utd's league anymore and haven't been for years. They can drop 300m every season on players. We can't. you are aware that Rafa tried that and we almost went bust BUT that's not your problem, is it? Take a leaf out of Fitzy's post, you may learn something.

P/ S: Ed if you are a sensible person and Harry compared my position to yours, then that makes me a sensible person to, right? I'll take the hidden compliment wherever I can get it.

{Ed001's Note - well I wouldn't go that far.....}


12.) 22 Sep 2017 07:50:27
Aye, that seems to be the case Ed001 mate.
People quickly forget what mess we were in when Brendan was sacked - and it seems like the Klopp-effect has overtaken most supporters with everyone expecting and craving almost instant success as soon as he was appointed manager for our club and still doing so. I guess the main difference here is to want success and backing the team and to expect success and slating the team.

I've tried my best not to slate the team - still I think it's obvious where improvements are needed and I'm still quite disappointed with the way the transfer window went - not getting a defensive midfielder and also Klopp's tendency to rotate on a daily basis (especially at the back 5) has been a bit worrying for me. So I do think we're allowed to expect better at some points. Just not at every tiny little thing that doesn't seem to suit us supporters the slightest.

Again, a run of bad form shouldn't define anything and as soon as we hit our form (which we will) I'm sure we'll be challenging for the top four spot (which apart from the current form, we pretty much still are)


13.) 22 Sep 2017 08:00:20
Ed001, why didn't City go for VVD? Every man and his dog saying he's a good defender and ultimately better than Otamandi.

Do you reckon they were respecting Saints stance saying he's not for sale?

{Ed001's Note - they did but he told them he wanted to join us. Chelsea did but refused to go near the asking price. Saints only told the media he was not for sale, they quoted an asking price prior to the tapping up saga coming to light.}


14.) 22 Sep 2017 08:05:57
Well said Fitzy, excellent post mate!
People need to get real and quickly.
Those complaining about the same mistakes being made over and over, look it's a fair complaint but think of it like this please;

You're at work and struggling to do a job, your boss (the fans) come and notice this.
He stands near and watches you closely and starts moaning and groaning every time he sees you do something slightly wrong.
He goes to another manager (the media) within earshot of you and starts moaning to him/ her about you.
Your teammates are also hearing and seeing this.
The next day you come to work, confidence shattered, you see your boss standing near your work area and think "here we go again".
There's just no end to it.
The only way out is to talk to your manager at work and see if you can come to an agreement or arrangement. How can Lovren for example move on if he hears the Kop/ Main Stand or wherever moan and groan every time he makes a small mistake?
Not only is he at fault for some of his errors, so are the fans who get on his back.

I know it's difficult to not moan and groan every time an error happens as you're dying for your club to succeed, I get that.
You've also paid hard earned cash to go to these games only to be left down again (you probably feel that way too) .
That's all fine, but he's not purposefully making these mistakes.
It's partially down to being self aware, more than ever or self conscious if you like.

Bruce Lee, who as you might know was a great Philosopher, Martial Artist, Actor and many other things once said "The consciousness of self is one's greatest enemy/ hindrance".
He's not still remembered 44 years after his death for nothing, I think it's fair to say he knew his stuff from a physicality and mentality point of view for an athlete don't you?!

Novel done :)


15.) 22 Sep 2017 08:30:11
Does anyone above could tell me the actual meaning of BRAT! Two people have called me by it and I would love to know what does that mean!

Cheers.


16.) 22 Sep 2017 08:42:36
Taking all of that in to account, would you say that makes Bonucci for €40m a great deal for AC Ed?

{Ed001's Note - depends on how he performs for them really but right now it is not looking that great. While he has been a great centre back in the past, there were issues at the end with Juve and they were glad to get rid. He might well be good for Milan anyway, but he would not have suited English football, not at the clubs contesting top 4 places anyway. He needs a team to play deeper to get the best out of him. Bonucci is very much an excellent Italian-style defender who needs to be playing in a team built in that kind of style. Milan play with a more expansive style, from the couple of games I have seen and he has been a little exposed.}


17.) 22 Sep 2017 08:53:05
Google it, genius.


18.) 22 Sep 2017 09:10:13
Oh I did Bingo, Thanks for the compliment! This is the last thread I would ever call you / involve in any kind of argument. Good luck with your life!


19.) 22 Sep 2017 09:12:37
B stands for Brendan.
R stands for Rodgers.
A stands for Almost.
T stands for Turned You :)


20.) 22 Sep 2017 09:37:27
A brat is a spoilt/ self absorbed child Harry. Which is why it is hilariously ironic that you've reacted to me and Bingo calling you out, by having a temper tantrum and giving us both the silent treatment 😂

Come on mate, nobody is going to give you any sympathy. You come on here and constantly poke at us Liverpool fans, then throw are strop when we retaliate and put you in your place?

I like you mate. Honestly. So i implore you not to abstain from any discussion/ debate. You do have some "oh dear" moments, but don't we all? I rarely if ever get more agrees than disagrees on my posts, but who cares what people on the internet think? Just take at as a compliment that they even acknowledge you.


21.) 22 Sep 2017 09:38:00
At last Ed1 and Fitzy someone talking sense! People think we can just go out and buy whoever we want and the problem is fixed rather than slowly build a squad. Didn't we learn from Rodgers regime that just buying average players that don't fit the system leads to problems rather than solutions? People have such short memories.


22.) 22 Sep 2017 09:52:34
Harry, relax buddy, they were both just providing you with some 'constructive criticism'


23.) 22 Sep 2017 10:18:36
Ings

Why did we buy Matip, Klavan and Lovren if your intention was to play high line? You do agree none are capable to play high line! Or you want the entire posters to ignore this fact!

Constructive criticism only mate!


24.) 22 Sep 2017 13:04:35
Bingo red. most self obsessed post I've seen in a long while. Do me a favour and wind that neck in.


25.) 22 Sep 2017 16:34:30
People blaming klopp for not buying a ball winning midfielder, would you take nzonzi now or keita next season? I know which one I would pick but petulant kids are famously inpatient eh.


26.) 22 Sep 2017 18:20:18
Ed1 can you not get someone you know at the club. to pass on a list of defenders to klopp lol give them some players to look at. It seems if they are outside southampton area. we rarely look at all.

{Ed001's Note - if only the club did listen.}


27.) 23 Sep 2017 12:16:02
Lfcdiamond, what's self-obsessed about it? Care to elaborate?


 

 

21 Sep 2017 09:37:07
You alway have to wait for 10 league games to be done before you can start to see how the season might pan out. That allows all teams to have settled, played a mix of home and away and different quality teams and surprise packages.

After 6 games last season Chelsea were in 8th place.

Not being positive or negative. Just saying.

Fitzy

1.) 21 Sep 2017 09:44:46
I remember there was talk of Conte being sacked around this point last year in the media when we beat them at Stamford Bridge - it's ridiculous.


2.) 21 Sep 2017 10:02:48
There was also a clueless journo/ pundit who said Chelsea would not make the top 4 after the perceived bad TW they had and after they lost the FIRST game of the season to Burnley playing one man down. Can you believe that nonsense?

They are doing the same thing to us and Klopp right now and the moaners are gobbling all that nonsense up. WHEREAS, we have a team like Spurs who can't buy a win at home YET he is not under any pressure BUT Klopp and Conte are or were? See the media agenda here? The media will bring down whoever they want to bring down and that is reality.


3.) 21 Sep 2017 10:22:39
Not if the fans stand by him.
We are supposedly supporters after all, so we should do exactly that.
Nothing wrong with constructive criticism or debate as maybe it'll filter through to him eventually and he'll have a think about things with the fans wishes in mind.
I still 100% think he's the man for this job.


4.) 21 Sep 2017 10:54:43
Thing is that Chelsea had decent centre backs, a top notch keeper and a good solid centre midfield to rely on, so it was a matter of time before it came good. We have none of those things.


5.) 21 Sep 2017 11:04:47
Oh Jesus, just when I thought we were getting and going somewhere positive, thanks Mr. Dennis.
Remind me not to pop round yours for Christmas buddy lol!


6.) 21 Sep 2017 11:34:08
Should I join Olrish 😄😄😄.


7.) 21 Sep 2017 11:52:19
Chelsea Decent CBS don't make me laugh there CB pairing are just as bad as ours the reason they don't get caught out as much is because of the god that is Kante in front of them.


8.) 21 Sep 2017 12:17:46
Sure, join away fella.
I'll be the one with the huge nipple tassels and gag ball - I have a confusing night life, don't judge me :)


9.) 21 Sep 2017 12:43:48
That's what the O is for b4 Irish? A gag ball.


10.) 21 Sep 2017 13:01:10
Somebody has been paying attention Lfcder lol.
I'm blushing now that you've seen my O.
Or could it be representing the gaping "hole" between our midfield and defence?


11.) 21 Sep 2017 13:14:10
Nearly forgot to say, you can have it back whenever you want it Lfcder.
I got my use out of it now and thanks again for the loan of it.
It only made intermittent appearances and wasn't up to the standard that I thought it would be initially.
Do you still require the loan fee or can you leave me off with that?
Are we still talking about the gag thing or the thing that the "I" in my username represents?
Where did I park my car this morning?


12.) 21 Sep 2017 13:42:08
None of Chelsea's CB's wold survive in our system as Conte plays a defensive system with two midfielders who sit in front of the back 3 tho they are not DM's and can get forward. We had the same issue with Lovren at Saints and when he came here with Joe Allen at DM and no protection, he cracked big time. Systems matter, Dennis.


13.) 21 Sep 2017 14:48:29
kev do u really think Kloop has given us the reason to be positive. when he starts winning the games and bring us top of the table just like Conte did for Chelsea we will be positive. till then take off your rose tinted glasses and embrace the truth - Kloop is underperforming, his team is disbalanced, we haven't won our last 4 games. Noone wants him gone yet just want him to change his style.


14.) 21 Sep 2017 15:32:02
My rose tinted glasses eh? Lol!
If you were on these pages the past week you'd possibly see I've been saying exactly as you have right there. So does that mean you're also wearing those glasses too crazy horse?
So what exactly are you complaining about?
Don't believe me?
Go into my profile and look at some of my posts on a system tweak since about Monday the 18th.


15.) 21 Sep 2017 18:18:53
Crazy, 'We haven't won in the past 4 games" Oh, the horror. So cos we haven't won a game in a measly four games at the start of the season, Klopp should now rip everything up and start again, right? I agree he can tweak things and make personel changes at the bback and in midfield as that is where we have issues. Spurs haven't won a home game this season so is Poch suddenly now an idiot? Is he ripping everything up, right now? Our attack is fine as we are creating chances BUT not scoring them and this debate has been litigated ad nauseum so bringing it up is a fool's errand.

Your Conte comparison is just ludicrous. The Chelsea team he took over was already a championship team who just took a season off to get their loud mouth manager fired. Conte came in and tried to play the 4 - 3 - 3 even tho, it was not his formation cos as a player and manager, he always played in a 3-5-2. After losses to us and Arsenal, he found out that it was not working and went to his true system and they caught fire. Football is not an exact science and saying we should do what x or y did w/ o knowing the context is just shallow thinking.


16.) 21 Sep 2017 22:28:40
Id say by sounds of it OIrish that you may need a few sizes up.
Lol.

Where in Ireland? For delivery of mega gag ball,

Eamon Dunphy is finished with it till the next internationals

No offence intended Pal.


 

 

20 Sep 2017 12:50:16
Ed01 has said on numerous occasions that players today don't have the ability to think for themselves on the pitch and to take responsibility for changing situations on the pitch as this has been coached out of them.

Last night was a great example of that. For the first goal when the ball was cleared from the set piece only a little bit outfield our 3 midfielders ran out. Out of the box and upfield. But they ran past several Leicester players and when the 2nd ball came back in Gomez and Klavan had 5 Leicester players to deal with. Gomez saw the danger and stepped back to cover. Some say he played the Leicester players onside but there were so many of them there that he couldn't take the risk that one of them would be onside and score.

When the goal went in our 3 midfielders were outside the box with no Leicester players within 5 yards of any of them.

For iur midfielders to not have the intelligence to not gallop upfield out of a defensive position until possession is secured is worrying.

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1.) 20 Sep 2017 13:04:35
Fitzy the midfielders rush out because of how we defend set pieces not just corners. In my opinion one of the biggest faults with our defending is we bring everyone back to defend them which allows opponents the ability to stack up in the attack without worrying about defending the players left upfield ( i know we are a quick counter from situations like this) this stops us stretching them and they just concentrate on the cross. Last night Grujic wins the header in among our midfielders in our box but they rush out because they have to close the second ball down too you might aswell say they are on double duty.


2.) 20 Sep 2017 14:05:26
And they missed the second ball all together! It was a pleasant surprise to see someone winning the header or first ball! But then the second ball is as important as first ball! Which is what you retain in possession!


3.) 20 Sep 2017 15:11:32
Its not hard to understand if Klopp just says to the deepest midfielder hold position on the edge of our own box or man mark, Henderson was about 10 yards behind the play for the first goal, same as Saturday, the centre of the 18 yard box had about 3/ 4 yards space empty, shocking.


4.) 20 Sep 2017 16:34:18
It 1s a combo of things in my opinion. Someone should have been in charge of the defensive line as the last man, screaming OUT as soon as the ball was cleared. That did not happen hence, Gomez stays back. One can say he should have rushed out BUT I say a leader should have been out there to usher everyone out if we are indeed playing the offside. Well, since we have no leaders and I doubt if the players even communicate at all with each other, that did not happen.


 

 

 

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13 Nov 2017 17:26:57
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31 Aug 2017 20:40:26
What deal? There isn't one.

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27 Aug 2017 19:36:05
If Mignolet goes and we need a third keeper for cover, Given is looking for a club.

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21 Aug 2017 23:07:28
That's right lads. Klopp should just do whatever the players want. That would work just great.

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02 Jun 2017 15:38:09
Hanging out with Barton? Damn, that's bad news. Thanks Ed and all.

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17 Nov 2017 21:11:37
Mane is fine.

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13 Nov 2017 17:16:21
Klopp was talking about hoping he comes home before the last game if Senegal won the first one and qualified. At the time it struck me as sounding like something had been agreed with Senegal.

So Senegal send him home as agreed and publically just say he had a slight reaction. I doubt he has had any reaction / injury to be honest. I bet he's fine.

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{Ed002's Note - Is the Orange Sunshine kicking in?}


 

 

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09 Nov 2017 19:41:09
He is injuried. Simples.

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08 Nov 2017 15:30:20
I can't believe it but I'm agreeing with Harry. We will keep him until next Summer.

I fully expect a huge public push by Barcelona in Jan. It looks like Messi isn't gona sign a new contract and so might leave next Summer so they will be leaking rumours of new signings, talks etc etc wholesale to cover themselves. To be the president/ director of football that loses Messi could lose you your job.

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04 Nov 2017 23:20:43
Get off this site Jonjo.

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