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26 Sep 2016 11:15:28
Talking on sky now of Liverpool could be better if we were spending more money because we were 7th highest spenders in the summer. Love how they ignore years of spending well over 100million and still having 50 odd players in our squad.

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 26 Sep 2016 12:19:22
Ya but is not 100 million if your selling 75mil player or a 50mil player.


2.) 26 Sep 2016 12:21:39
Why anyone watches that rubbish I don't know.


3.) 26 Sep 2016 13:45:42
Why wouldn't we? It's good, entertaining, and informative. Sheds light between the real stories and the crap you read on Facebook pages. Plus they where talking very positively about Liverpool and said, imagine if Juergen klopp had spent the same amount as the other big clubs how much better Liverpool would be doing compared to the likes of city. They where complementing us for being at the same standard without having to spend rediculous amounts.


4.) 26 Sep 2016 15:22:04
Spending more money wouldn't have made any difference, it's about getting the right players in, not the most expensive ones.


5.) 26 Sep 2016 15:52:30
It isn't really about how much a player cost, but if he fits to how you play and does he improve the team. Carol and Mane cost near the same amount but you can see the difference on the pitch. Matip was free, karious relatively cheap, and same with both couts and sturridge.

Alternatively Bony cost city a fortune, Torres ŵas a record signing, and di maria was near world record signing. All good players but didn't fit how the teams play.


6.) 26 Sep 2016 20:09:13
They actually showed that Klopp is 9m in profit since he came to Liverpool.


7.) 26 Sep 2016 22:30:38
Couldn't agree more mikey.


8.) 26 Sep 2016 23:13:24
If it is about spending less and achieving more than nobody does it than messr wenger and arsenal. They been doing it year in year out. Only recently wenger went on splurge.


9.) 27 Sep 2016 02:45:30
Arsenals wage bill is about 30 million quid a year higher than Liverpool's.


10.) 27 Sep 2016 05:23:41
This is why ed002 tells us to forget about the money. We haven't got a clue. 😄
In reality, I'm sure LFC are not 'in profit' since Klopp arrived.


11.) 27 Sep 2016 02:43:08
Ed02 has said we did not make a profit.


12.) 29 Sep 2016 21:37:41
I never understand why people talk about net spend, regardless of the amount you sell for, the amount you buy the players for remains, how much you get for a player has no bearing on the players you bring in, I'll never understand why there's a focus on net spend when justifying transfers.


13.) 01 Oct 2016 02:40:13
Let's not forget the other fees involved in transfers either. Signing, legal etc. Plus wages, bonuses etc. The transfer fees are just a headline figure.


 

 

10 Dec 2015 16:33:33
Ed001 I was just wondering if you have heard from anything from someone in around the club about klopps and the clubs thoughts on benteke. I've heard so many opinions from pundits mates people on here etc. But bar a few words after games and the likes haven't really heard anything overly positive or negative towards him from the club.
Or anyone else that has an insight please share! Squaretomatoe if you're about try even get Gomez' opinion! Haven't heard anything about him in a while back either so hopefully his recovery is going well!

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed001's Note - he dropped him for big games, that is all you need to know of what he thinks about him. Benteke needs to convince him that he is the right man to lead the line, but he is not doing so.}


1.) 10 Dec 2015 17:14:31
I was more along the lines of he was still coming back to fitness and was easing him back. I still remain hopeful though as I really think with a solid run of games he could really hit form shame that at the mo is every game is quite vital.

{Ed001's Note - he was fit but left out.}


2.) 10 Dec 2015 21:28:31
I said last season befor we signed benteke he's not what we need and didn't see why we wanted him and everyone told me he's amazing. No doubt he's got something but for me he doesn't fit us. i would rather see ings up top. I wouldn't mind benteke coming good as it means for once we haven't waisted loads of money but he just doesn't fit into how we play.


3.) 10 Dec 2015 22:49:29
I'd say it was more his attitude than his ability to fit in. just my opinion of what I have seen so far from him.


4.) 10 Dec 2015 22:54:10
He still has a place. Great impact sub, and he should have more use in a games where we have more possession and not much space. Firmino or Sturridge are definitely the better choice in bigger games.


5.) 10 Dec 2015 23:01:47
From a purely "our style of play", Ings and Origi are better any day of the week (Sturridge included, when he's willing to play) . Not slating Benteke, but just don't see crosses coming in to him for various reasons. And i don't see him scoring goals other than through crosses. He's simply not gelling with Firmino and Lallana.


6.) 10 Dec 2015 23:04:33
So 32m for an impact sub . Money well spent again. I don't doubt that in the right team and system he would be a good player I just unfortunately don't think that it is with us . Hope he proves me wrong but he takes away the best qualities of firmino coutinho etc with his lack of movement.


7.) 11 Dec 2015 00:17:58
Agree squizza, IMO we mistakenly persevered with big men under Rogers due to him trying to reform the side into a 4-3-3 (Balo, Lambert, Benteke) however what we really needed was a Lacazette, Aubemeyang type player to replace Suarez.

I don't mind having a big man in the squad as a plan B option, but with Sturridge struggling for fitness we need our backup to be able to fit Klopp's high energy system otherwise we'll struggle to find any sort of consistency or style. We need Benteke to adapt quickly.

Ings must be doubly kicking himself. Such a shame he got injured!


8.) 11 Dec 2015 05:20:55
Bang on with this post again, Zimbo.

I don't mind Benteke as an impact sub, to mix things up.

But our best attack, is when we keep the ball on the floor, and play it out the back and through the middle; triangles, pressing, counter-pressing.

I'm literally going to jump off a peer if I have to read another opinion piece from some 1980s era player claiming we need to "service" Benteke and "play to his strengths" by crossing in balls from out wide.

May as well sell Coutinho now, and get it over with.


9.) 11 Dec 2015 09:06:32
If you look it up, there are videos of Benteke showing great movement, so I think he is capable. When we bought him there were no established, seasoned strikers available, really. Lots of teams had issues in signing strikers. Look at United paying over the odds for Martial - maybe that will work out better for them than Benteke will for us but at the time we all had a good laugh.

We all know how we struggled last season without enough goal scorers, and how players like Sterling were slotted in to play that role. I think Benteke was a gamble that may or may not yet pay off.

In the lead up to him signing, there were voices of dissent, and concern chiefly over his motivation and disinclination to run. Watching him now, he looks out of his depth in some ways, but that may be because the fast paced style requiring him to run doesn't suit him. That said there have been some great moments and some cracking goals.

Maybe he will adjust, maybe we will take a £15m loss when he moves on. Time will tell. Like many on here, I am hoping for the best but am reserving judgement.


10.) 11 Dec 2015 09:32:25
This whole idea of "impact sub that offers something different" never works and doesn't exist. What people seem to fail to realise is that if you purchase and play a striker that does not fit in with the already established system, ie pressing counter attacking, then that means your are going to have to run training sessions throughout the week to inform the team how you want them to play when one individual player is introduced. This means trying to coach a team on two completely different systems week in week out which just doesn't work.

There are other nock on effects as well as you've also got to buy other enabling players to incorporate that individual striker, ie traditional wingers to cross (we only have Ibe) . Just lumping on benteke into a 4-3-3 with either lallana, Coutinhou, firmino, sturridge or Ings wouldn't work as there would be no service. This is exactly what we're seeing now, what we saw with lambert and also carrol.

Its good to have different options but these need to be able to play in the already established system. Having a striker that requires a completely different set up and system just doesn't work and never will!


11.) 11 Dec 2015 10:01:00
A few years ago we were moaning that we could it mix it up, now we have that options we are moaning again. I didn't just say he was in impact sub, but we can't always break down teams that sit deep and try and hit us on the counter, benteke would be a better option for these games than firmino up front.


12.) 11 Dec 2015 15:06:20
Benteke has a goal record of one in 2.
An incredible record, but, as I mentioned before he signed, he will probably score you 5 goals in 2 games and then go 8 games without a goal and without really looking a threat.
Looks like he is still repeating the same trick at LFC.


13.) 11 Dec 2015 18:01:29
Does anyone have an idea about what will happen with Balotelli? Will we sell at the end of his loan or will Klopp want to check him out?
Under Klopp he may better or not, I know he has attitude problems etc and I am not saying I want him back or not - it is simply a fact we still own him.
Eds do you know anything about the plans for him?

{Ed001's Note - he is up for sale.}


14.) 12 Dec 2015 07:14:15
Thank you Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - you are welcome.}


15.) 12 Dec 2015 12:08:54
Ed what's your opinion on ings, providing he comes back from the injury as the same player so to speak, would you see him as the main striker, personally I think he will be great for us.

{Ed001's Note - not main no. Works hard, was growing into the team but he is not that top class striker like Sturridge is.}


16.) 12 Dec 2015 12:32:02
Cheers mate.


 

 

12 Sep 2015 09:00:02
Hey think this could be one for ed002 if you don't want to answer/get into it I completely understand and no need to post if you don't feel either!
Well with all the commercialism in football now and new tv deal etc I was wondering what the future holds and do you see in the future clubs essentially privatizing broadcasting of games? Especially if the European league breaks out or would this go against whatever regulations are in place? I know barca and Madrid are the famous examples of negotiating their own deal but could we see the day for example where lfc tv have the sole broadcasting rights to Liverpool games and a subscription/ pay per view model put in place?

Secondly if the above is not feasible as I feel it probably wouldn't be what would happen in terms of broadcasting were a European league to break out. Would all clubs negotiate privately ala Madrid and Barcelona or would their again be fixed broadcasting in place or is this a bridge that will be crossed closer to the time?
Finally is there a large disparity between deals barca and Madrid have in place and the new premier league tv deal or is this gap being closed?
Sorry again if you don't want to get into!
Regards, Shane

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed002's Note - Here you go Shane. We will put it on the transfer page as the rest of the Liverpool posts will be likely going to the "Other" page again today.

(1) To some extent this would be dependent on when the pan-European League happens. At a recent meeting in Monaco a proposal by two clubs to begin in 2018 only received support from one other side – the others in general voted against it with either one or two abstaining. This though may simply have been posturing as they look to a more realistic date of 2022. Because of the World Cup and the general mess with high-end sponsors related to the WC and on-going issues at FIFA, the original pencilled in date of 2027 is back on the table. There will be a couple more meetings this season. A date has been set in April and I rather suspect that the clubs involved in these discussions will look for another meeting in mid-December. Do not under estimate the value of foreign television money to the European leagues.

(2) There is every likelihood that the big money from television, other media, sponsorship etc. would go with a breakaway league. It would completely rupture the operations of UEFA and I would expect it would require national associations like the FA to restructure their leagues. Nobody wants this but it is the eventual consequence I would expect. As a result there would certainly be a step change in the way clubs capture their media income. Two EPL clubs (Arsenal and Liverpool) have already investigated, and probably continue to investigate, the streaming type options for games. Whilst they cannot do it in real-time right now, in the future the chance may well be there to do that. Both clubs have media exploitation expertise within their existing senior management structures – but both will also be aware of the damage being done to the clubs by the illegal “free” internet providers. So in the longer term, I would think that there will be more options to watch games live – either through existing/revised media deals or through the clubs providing that service themselves. In all probability it would be far more cost effective and beneficial to do it through the likes of a television company, perhaps as a partner. Clubs on their own do not have the broadcast capabilities, nor equipment and facilities necessary to do this easily on their own and it would seem likely they would seek a media partner rather than go in to the broadcasting business.

(3) The television deals in Spain have been renegotiated and eventually if nothing changes then the gap between what Real Madrid and Barcelona have in income and the English sides will disappear. However, regardless of the new agreement kicking in during next season in Spain, there is a caveat that means all sides will earn at least what they did last season (it might be this season, I would need to check) for six more seasons – this was reluctantly accepted by the other clubs simply to push through the deal. However, the only clubs protected by it are the only two that would potentially lose money – Real Madrid and Barcelona.

(4) Meetings have been held including representatives of the French FFF and Spanish RFEF to discuss their concerns over the new EPL television deal and the deal Real Madrid and Barcelona has in Spain. They approached UEFA with a view to capping TV/media income in the same way as commercial sponsorship for the purposes of FFP. No resolution is in place. This upsets EPL clubs, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The others will get support from other nations such as Germany and the Netherlands should they ask for it – and even Italy which has the second highest income but a rupturing financial structure for all but 6 or 8 sides. The further complication relates to what happens when the breakaway clubs run for the pan-European league. The Spanish club know that opens up the Real Madrid and Barcelona second string sides to La Liga - so they want assurances that they can only use the extant stadia, and not the main stadia, and the television rights will then be shared equally - regardless (the agreed plan right now is not dissimilar to the English deal for their National income which are divided (1) 50% equally between clubs, (2) 25% for those clubs hosting live matches, (3) 25% based on performance (league position). The international broadcast monies are divided (3) 100% equally between the clubs.. This has been raised in a meeting of the breakaway sides in Monte Carlo last year with UEFA present and an unbiased journalist sat in to moderate - at the agreement of all parties. It remains partially resolved only.

From this you may just be able to figure out the names of the two clubs looking to accelerate the pan-European league breakaway.

I hope this helps.}


 

 

26 Jul 2014 08:40:29
I'm not one for rumours but here we go I have one this morning!
I was in the car going to the shop for milk just there when I stopped at the lights.

Some builders were making a proper cycle lane but one of them saw all the Liverpool stuff around the car.

He came over going "waheyyyyy what happened last year mate? Now we've got the second coming with Sanchez"! Then he started yelling "gooners" over and over.

Then however he goes "still snapping you're getting the Nancy boy from Dortmund with the stupid hair" "'reus?" Says me "aye yeah he'll be there by the end of next week"

So I just drove off lights had been green for a while at this point sure!

Make of it what you will wether you trust a bald gooner or not is up to you ;)

ShaneK_LFC

1.) Yay a rumour! I don't believe it but at least its a rumour. Its a rumours site mate, just make stuff up and post it. Makes a change from question time for the eds


2.) 26 Jul 2014 10:41:12
Coutinho needs some competition for this year's Raul Meireles Horrible Haircut trophy


3.) True or not this is a boss rumour


4.) And the moral of this story is don't trust a bald builder.


5.) Obviously this is not a legitimate rumor although it is based on a true story (I actually went to the shop for bread).

I was just soo bored with no rumors so thought this might inspire some!


6.) Brilliant!


7.) All rumours are legitimate, just some are less reliable than others. This is no less reliable than 90% of those twitter rumours!


 

 

06 Jul 2014 20:36:46
O jogo now saying markovic will undergo a medical this week. this story really picking up life. hope he does well if we do sign him. as I've said I'm not to sure on him!

ShaneK_LFC

1.) Jesus you better tell Brendon quick mate


2.) Not to sure what you're implying there mate? I'm entitled to an opinion on a player I haven't slated him like most do here with players and I've said I'll gladly support him and hope for the best but just think he's a bit of a risk.


 

 

 

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30 Aug 2017 08:37:37
Ed001 at some stage (add to your to do list) could I request a report on imo the three superstars of tomorrow in mbappe neymar and assensio.

I just watched Madrid Valencia and seriously assensio is silly good forget the fact I've never seen someone hit a ball so easily from 40 yards that nearly breaks the net but his touch control dribbling and passing is pushing messi standard for me.

What are others opinions having seen a lot of neymar assensio and a little of mbappe I put mbappe currently at the bottom but huge potential and while I think neymar could be the most effective player I seriously just smile watching assensio!

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed001's Note - ok mate added them to the to do list.}


1.) 30 Aug 2017 09:30:28
Appreciated sir, enjoy the last day of the window hopefully the Liverpool fan in you will be smiling even if working you is not!

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed!}


 

 

25 Jul 2017 08:37:17
Wrote a lil diddle looking for people's opinions.
Written to Jimmy's winning matches which hopefully people will know from donegals run to the all Ireland few years back!

He's came from Germany, out to the Mersey
And he's going to win the title just you wait and see
Cuz we'll beat City men we'll beat Chelsea men
We'll beat anyone that stops us on our title run

Chorus:
It's destiny it's not just written in the sand
He's got a plan yes he's no lucky lucky man

Ohh klopp is winning matches
Klopp is winning games
Klopp is going to bring us back to the top again


Ohh klopp is winning matches
Klopp is winning games
Klopp is going to bring us back to them glory days


He's not from Italy he's from Germany
And if you want the best players he's the man to see
Cuz we got coutinho
We got firmino
We got salah and mane and georginio

Chorus.

We'll win the fa cup
We'll win the league cup
And if that wasn't enough we'll win the Euro Cup
Cuz we'll score more than you
We'll beat you black and blue
And you know that it's a fact that we will never lose.

Chorus and out!

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 25 Jul 2017 10:40:49
MON DONEGAL.


2.) 25 Jul 2017 10:47:26
you don't have a girlfriend do you?


 

 

24 Jul 2017 08:10:53
20 million squids for dembele off Celtic? That's about the first fair price of the summer if I'm honest. Surprised bigger sides than Marseille are not having a look at that price.

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 24 Jul 2017 09:30:58
It's a risk as he is playing in a poor standard league, Scott Sinclair is having a field day in that league!
I would say that it's about right.


2.) 24 Jul 2017 10:19:06
Sinclair would have made it in EPL too if MC hadn't stopped his development. That many goals even in SPL is impressive at an age were he will get better. If we didn't have Divock and Dom he'd be a good option. Were stacked for potential 🤞.


 

 

08 Jun 2017 07:35:05
No insider info here or anything but I think Salah will still happen. People being put off by sky reports if you read the full article it's actually comical.

We were priced out of salah for 37 million but are more than happy to pay in excess of 40 million for our next in line?

Like surely even the proofreader for sky would be like ah seriously are we actually going to run this?

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 08 Jun 2017 08:56:43
Like last season when we failed to land Zielinski for about £12m and then signed our second choice Wijnaldum for £25m?

It isn't as crazy as it seems mate. Players may be first choice because they are seen as better value for money, not necessarily because they are better.

In my job I am required to spec up bespoke tooling. I go to about 4 different suppliers and the select which quote to go with based on quality, cost, lead time, and practicality (for example we have one supplier in Milton Keynes and one supplier in Italy, so guess which one I'd prefer to work with! ) .

It is similar for transfer deals. The quality of the player is not the only deciding factor.


 

 

04 Jun 2017 08:56:03
Love how we've missed out on vvd even though our interest only came about due to the player wanting to come, or the fact perhaps he is still a saints player and could still end up anywhere.

This signing would always have been a luxury so I don't see why we should be pushing the boat out for a player and position that was not in our targets. If we can get him for what the club deem reasonable then hey ho that's fantastic!

But there seems to be the undertone of "why are Liverpool missing targets" developing here which even for this page could be a record at the 4th of June!

Begs the question ed which was personally the worst summer you had for dealing with people? Does one stand out or does it just get worse each year?

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed001's Note - it feels like it gets worse each year.}


1.) 04 Jun 2017 09:05:59
It does, but the Villa and Silva rumours circa '07 also seemed to cause mass consternation. I don't think we were ever close to signing either.

{Ed001's Note - we were but Parry pulled the plug.}


2.) 04 Jun 2017 09:12:39
Ou Fans sometime defends our defenders more thanne they actually defend in games. It would be a stupidity to pass on this window without buying a goodbye defender. We are up there on record number of goals conceded. And buying attacking full backs won't solve this puzzle either.


3.) 04 Jun 2017 09:16:59
I touched on this earlier in the week . The media leeks and propoganda machine will be in full flow . " we tried " . And now in for this player . " we tried again " . Keita and lacazette will be he next mass hsteria leaks . Robertson maguire / keane . And maybe salah if we don't try and balls that up . Also maybe the anderlecht striker or someone to that level . And of coarse the Chelsea young lad . Don't pin any of you're hopes on the lists peddled out by the usual Joyce and Pearce or bascombe . The fsg men.


4.) 04 Jun 2017 09:18:54
Thanks Ed01. I have renewed contempt for Parry now.


5.) 04 Jun 2017 09:28:26
Parry was the worse mistake the club ever made.


6.) 04 Jun 2017 09:33:23
I think the problem is becoming what football player want to earn. Irrespective of their fees, wages for players make up majority of the clubs financial outlay each season.

Sure we can go pay whatever obscene amount Southampton want for VVD but in the bigger scheme of things he is going to be making a very deep cut into our wage bill.

The 2016 financials show that Liverpool have the 3rd highest wage bill in the League when that is not where we even finished. Your wage bill should reflect compared to what is happening on the pitch surely?

So deals could be going sour because the club's wage bill is something which has to be sustained. Liverpool have been starved of success for an awful long time now. I am pretty sure there will not be any "missed out" deals once the club can be in a position of delivering silverware on an ongoing basis.

Obviously there could be many other reasons why Liverpool haggle in the transfer market but when looking at our debt, we are second behind UTD with the most debt in the EPL. Yes Chelsea owe Abramovic over 1 billion but it is not like he is sitting back crying about it. Other than that, City, Arsenal and Spurs are managing their outlay and turnover very well.

Liverpool can go all out and gamble in the market but failure on the pitch will continue to see the club in ever growing trouble.


7.) 04 Jun 2017 10:17:18
I wonder where the club would be if we had signed silva and villa back then. I can only imagine the success we would have had if you added them to the already brilliant team of alonso, torres, gerrard etc.


8.) 04 Jun 2017 10:33:45
MAX

For that you should first stop giving away huge contracts to the likes of Lovren and Lallana. Spurs has a smaller wage structure and how easily they finished above us! Can't blame anyone else other than us for the moneybags we have spend and the expense we incur we should be comfortably sitting a lot higher than where we are now.


9.) 04 Jun 2017 10:36:26
We had deals finalised for Silva and Villa if I recall. And didn't we have Dani Alves done aswell? Then Parry pulled out. That's a big reason that Rafa got the hump as he put a lot of effort into persuading them to join us. Please correct me if I'm wrong Ed001 as I'm not 100% sure but I recall reading that somewhere.

{Ed001's Note - if you were wrong I would correct you. He also pulled the plug on a move for Cristiano Ronaldo as he deemed £3.6m too expensive for a teenager.}


10.) 04 Jun 2017 11:24:41
Yeah I remember the Ronaldo one aswell. Are there anymore notable players we had and messed up you willing to list?


 

 

 

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08 Sep 2017 10:33:08
Might not satisfy short term but long term gives them all chances to impress in various comps and hopefully look to stake a claim that we have a legitimate first choice keeper toward the end of this going into next season.

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed002's Note - Actually it continues to smack of someone who doesn't know what he is doing but is too arrogant to accept he needs help on the defensive side.}


 

 

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31 Jul 2017 11:25:35
Well played ash!

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29 Jul 2017 08:58:30
Way we're going we could hire Don King to do negotiations.

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29 Jul 2017 08:03:28
They've been wrong about 20 times this summer!
Lukaku to Chelsea
Morata to united
Ronaldo/ bale to united.
They just report the most talked about newspaper pieces essentially.

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16 Jul 2017 07:39:12
If he believes he'll sign surely there will be a formal approach as apposed to a kidnapping?

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08 Nov 2017 13:36:49
I understand what Harry is saying, but I think if you take our front 6 squad (players who can play midfield / up top) without coutinho we are still good on paper. obviously still better with a form coutinho but our players would still compete with most top sides in my opinion.

If sturridge and one of origi / ings/ firmino leave in the next couple windows along with coutinho a quality striker in a similar mold to firmino maybe more of a striker with similar qualities such as Jesus.

My overall point which is simply undeniable that we need to sort out the defence and I think coutinho is the player that wants out, we can recoup a huge sum and we are in a position where arguably we don't need an immediate like for like replacement and we therefore can use the money hopefully to sign the mystical top defender who sorts our problems.

I'm not sure who that player is but I can understand this way of thinking certainly. The argument being coutinho out top defender in would improve the overall capability of the team to get results.

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07 Sep 2017 10:43:19
Wouldn't say kdb is not physical. He is incredibly physical on the ball and incredibly strong. What I would say is he doesn't always defend at a level suitable for a deep midfielder or midfielder that has defensive duties. so essentially it comes down to can we keep the ball not letting city have it and can we take chances when we have the ball.

Simples really.

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03 Sep 2017 11:11:06
Andy disagree with you on your top 4 and discipline point. at his age realistically for the most part he will be coming off the bench and at that age same as Coleman said to him you just have to say go and express yourself. from this you will get good and bad while he learns.

Last night was fantastic though.

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31 Aug 2017 17:40:22
Yeah because 20 mil is meaningless.

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31 Aug 2017 08:20:27
Fair assessment for me. Maybe can will go on a bit through the year but yeah I'd say that's fairly close to our state of affairs.

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