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11 Jan 2018 10:03:38
Heard from a good source that Ceballos is 'nailed on' to join before the window closes. No idea how my source knows but works within football and simply passed it on, make of it what you will.

Personally I would be a bit underwhelmed if the de facto replacement for Coutinho was Ceballos as seems a marked step down in quality but hey ho let's see what materialises.


1.) 11 Jan 2018 10:37:30
Why are people saying he is the replacement of coutinho? What if we are taking advantage of his situation at madrid?

Although I agree that he is not a Coutinho replacement, I think he is a good player and would be a good acquisition for the squad looking forward.

2.) 11 Jan 2018 10:55:19
Yes we ain't going to replace coutihno he is a world class Brazil international, but what we can do is strengthen the areas we are weak in we lack creative spark in midfield an someone who can manipulate the ball he is a gamble but could also turn out too b real quality well worth a punt especially if we can get keita early as well suddenly midfield is lookin healthy freeing up the attack, ox, mane, Salah, firmino, lallana, solanke, sturridge, nice options, still I would like us too buy an attacker like lemar, mahrez, suso, draxler wishful thinking though.

3.) 11 Jan 2018 12:00:02
I wonder if we will hear from wonder dog sparky?

4.) 11 Jan 2018 13:53:12
Hi eds i'm going to need your email addresses, mothers maiden names and the names of your first pets. uh. for science

Seriously though I hope we can do something like this, the buzz the club had post VVD left along with Phil.

5.) 11 Jan 2018 22:02:17
Coutinho was crap in midfield. Addressing the balance there would be an upgrade.

6.) 11 Jan 2018 22:39:08
Faith, he wasn’t really crap in midfield though was he? He played most games in midfield this season and had one of his best (half) seasons.

7.) 12 Jan 2018 19:12:12
our midfield is very weak at the moment, and could be the weakness that City will try and take control over, we really need at least one top player coming in this window, the name I have is the big guy from Roma,




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05 Feb 2018 11:32:42
{Ed's Note - If you missed it, Seano_ posted an article entitled, How I saw the LFC v Spurs game


1.) 05 Feb 2018 12:23:56
Seano it is a well written piece I enjoyed reading it. I agree with 90% of the article.

2.) 05 Feb 2018 19:05:27
yes really good post by Seano, and he has mostly got it right, if we had got the 2nd goal first half, and Hendo had stayed on for the 90 mins,
if the linesman had not overuled the ref, giving them a very late pen, which is indeed a rare thing, the ref was only yards away and shouted play on,
it all rested on that throw in, and I don't think we defended it very well, we had players standing there doing nothing, the Ox was just ball watching,
and then, most important, it was not a PEN,
but the draw was in a way not too bad a result,
and we move on .

3.) 05 Feb 2018 20:23:35
Happy, lots and lots of ifs there.

4.) 06 Feb 2018 02:18:48
Thanks for all the responses - I know there was a ton on the first link posted an I'm too up the wall to respond - also thanks to the Ed's for making it an article, was just meant to be a post but I guess the sheer length of it kind of forced your hands! Hope we pick up maximum points in our upcoming games, really need to start building some strong momentum.

5.) 06 Feb 2018 21:33:36
If Kane had scored that goal, there was no way back for us from that point! Thank god he missed the penalty which lifted the crowd and the momentum. Did we even touch the ball in the second half? Never seen a team come GK Anfield and completely dominate us!



04 Feb 2018 21:53:53
{Ed's Note - Seano_ has posted an article entitled, How I saw the Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur game


1.) 04 Feb 2018 22:08:16
Well said Seano 100% agree.

2.) 04 Feb 2018 22:13:53
Though I don't agree with some of that, I appreciate your time and effort to write it mate, well played.

3.) 04 Feb 2018 22:25:09
I pretty much agree with all of that Seano. Good post.

4.) 04 Feb 2018 22:46:30
Klopp lost us 2 points with his subs. don't know how many times he is going to do it before people catch on. he took off mane which allowed trippier into the game and gave the width to spurs. Henderson coming off took away our shape and discipline in the middle while Can looked nackered but stayed on. all of Klopps subs invited more pressure from spurs and rather than making changes to help us keep our energy he actually killed the energy and we got overrun. lucky to get a draw in the end.

5.) 04 Feb 2018 23:04:49
Seano, good read BUT I disagree with some of your points. On Karius, the boy can always do better BUT he was awesome today and did not deserve the shafting he and the team got today from the refs. As for the defence, I thought they played well today and the fact that they shut out Alli and Kane who had NO SHOTS on target in 90 mins of open play, tells the whole story right there. As for Lovren and VVD, as a partnership, they were very good. Of course, there is a miskick here and there BUT they covered for each other very well and Karius covered for them when need arose.

I also think Klopp tried the tactics used against us by Spurs at Wembley where as soon as they scored, they played counter attacking football cos we had more possession than them and still lost 4-1. We did the same thing to City last season at home and got the win. I do agree that our boys looked jaded and we missed Hendo in midfield as well in the second half BUT I can live with that cos we limited Spurs no scraps, really. Tho they scored a worldie, Salah got us in position for the win until.

As for the refs, I am with you all the way. These clowns seemed to be making it up as the game went on. As soon as the first non pen was given, the game got away from them and it showed. As for the pundits, they are nothing but salesmen who talk w/ both sides of their mouth so that at the end of the day they are never wrong. If any kind of contact is deemed to be a foul even in the box then we might as well start awarding penalties on every set piece. Also, how can Lamela have been kicked if he jumped on VVD who was pulling away from the challenge? Also, how can a lino see from 25 yards, an incident the ref saw from 10 yards and waved away? The ref should have told him to buzz off and continue with the game. He did not and here we are.

6.) 04 Feb 2018 23:04:58
Just seen match of the day. That linesman wants firing from the premier league. He clearly has a self-importance complex and wanted to try and act like a smart Alec.

Kane was offside. The defender has to deliberately play the ball in the direction it travels for it to count as a new phase of plat. Lovren clearly did not mean that kick to go in that direction, and hence it is not deliberate.

On the second penalty, my opinion is Lamela instructed Van Dijk. Virgil has gone to kick the ball and Lamela has made no effort to play the ball, and only had eyes for forcing contact with Van Dijk. It is never a penalty.

Shocking decisions, but never mind. A point does nothing for Spurs to be honest. We still maintain the gap we already had and any other week we don't get two incorrect penalties against us, and we win. Abysmal officiating from the linesman. He clearly doesn't know the rules of the game based on what you clearly heard him say to the ref.

7.) 05 Feb 2018 02:52:50
I thought Karius was pretty solid today, about the punch, i think he has to come for that, i haven't watched it back, but looks like maybe a tap in for kane? I need to rewatch, 2 players i think first OX? then maybe it's can are ball watching as Wanama beats them both to the ball and hits a worldie. Have to be honest it was a top goal.

Second half we invited pressure and i thought everyone defended decently, Lovren made a pig's ear of the kane pen but he was offside. Didn't think it was a pen though, very little contact and kane just dives. Not that it made any difference karius read it well.

Lamela though so cheap, VVD catches him but as he feels the contact pulls out. lamela Just jumps infront of him goes for the dive.

Don't think the linesman saw the lamela pen too clearly. I think a draw was fair on how we played second half, very spineless. But its a cheap point for spurs. Very weak penalties. Detracted from 2 very good goals from each team. Even my mate who's a spurs fan thuoght we should have walked away with 3 points given how dirty spurs played, Alli dive also, very poor.

I hate cheating in football from anyone, wouldn't be happy if out players had been diving today. It ruins the game, the sooner VAR comes in the better. 1 point for us and 1 point for spurs is better than 3 for spurs. If chelsea can drop points tomorrow then we are still in a good position.


8.) 05 Feb 2018 05:58:08
Spot on, MK and Ali. On the whole, we defended well and shut down their strikers, reducing them to no shots on target in 90 mis of open play. As for the 2nd peno as the first one is not even discussing, VVD tries to clear the ball, sees Lalmela who already decided to go down regardless (as Alli did for his dive thinking Loveren would foul him) and VVD pulls out of the clearance and Lamela jumps on his leg.

The worst thing and that is not mentioned enuff, is that the ref sees the incident and waves play on. Why did the ref change his mind and allow himself to be overruled on something he himself saw? How can the lino see something whereas he is much further away from it than the ref? This is not being mugged. Had VAR been used, we win the game, easy. This was like you were mugged and the cops stood there, watched it happen and laughed in your face.

9.) 05 Feb 2018 07:02:07
I think a draw was fair as we failed to make our dominance count 1st half and were so so poor in the second. Why we kept lumping the ball away and encouraging their closing in was just beyond me. That said we defending well enough for the most part that those pen decisions make it a bitter pill to swallow. Everyone knows about the first and it didn’t matter anyway, but how the red can clearly signal no pen and then be swayed 5-10 seconds later by a linesman further away from him with no clear view who has already made a shocking decision is just beyond me entirely. Don’t get me wrong I can see why it was given but these rules need clarifying otherwise VAR will not solve anything.
My overall views:
Better for Karius, encouraging, could do nothing more than what he did and made some good saves. Getting slated for the punch that dropped to the first goal but could have been cleared before shot was taken. More games like that and he may keep his shirt.
Lovren - good defender 95% of the time but always seems to have a mistake or mis-kick in him that costs us. Best partner for VVD currently though.
Midfield - awful without Hendo, in desperate need of upgrading. Gini’s form has just fell of a cliff from last year and he needs to be more consistent.
Attack - Salah quality, Mane is getting back on it, Bobby looked tired and ineffective today. Should of been taken off in my view when he stopped having any influence on the game.
Refs - Just awful. Some schooling or rule clarification is clearly required because once again opinion is split even with replays. 1st pen definitely offside for me. Regardless of the touch the pass was played with intent to Kane who was offside at that time. 2nd pen just shocking.
Spurs - probs deserved a point but they should be ashamed of themselves the way they threw themselves around. Alli’s dive was embarrassing, Kane’s was a pen (ignoring the offside for a sec) although he still left his legs in so cheap play, and Lamela has again gone looking for a touch and gone down stupidly easily. Embarrassing. I used to have a soft spot for spurs but I genuinely hope they finish outside the top 4 in favour of Chelsea after that. Teams that play like that deserve nothing.
Rant over, moving on.

10.) 05 Feb 2018 08:35:14
That is an almost impossible game to sum up I must say.
Spurs did to us what we usually do to others and failed to beat us for all their dominance, mostly in the 2nd half.

The 1st penalty, dreadful decision from both referee and assistant.
The 2nd, the ref who is closer waves the player to get up (clearly thinking he dived) but the further away assistant gives an incredibly poorly informed decision in my opinion - he could not have been 100% sure it was a penalty, he just couldn't have.

We need to move on though and not be too disappointed as we're still in a good position for all Spurs' celebrations after the game and dominance during large periods of it, they're still behind us in the table.

Positives for me:
Salah is just breathtaking at times, that goal deserved to win a football match alone as did Wanyama's to be fair.
Karius was excellent and showed for probably the first time what potential he may have.

I was disappointed at the over all performance I must say - a few players just never showed up, but we're still ahead in the race for top 4, so I cannot complain too much personally.

11.) 05 Feb 2018 09:20:37
Lucky to get a draw? Slimz, were you watching the game backwards? Your post makes no sense, IMO. How can you say Klopp lost us two pints when we got completely mugged by the refs leading 2-1. What's fair about three Spurs players diving to win penalties with one getting booked? What's fair about the refs completely winging it and playing guessing games on critical calls that both had any clue about? Hendo is not fit to play 90mins and Mane was not holding the ball up well enough and Can played his heart out and so did the rest of the team and were it not for the refs, we are not having this discussion. You can't manufacture energy where there is not any. Stop bashing any of our players or Klopp cos that is dishonest and flat out BS.

Klopp had a tactic after we scored and it has worked before vs City last season at home and where we allowed them to possess the ball and even with all that possession, City only had one shot on target in 95 mins. The same with Spurs.

We limited them to scraps with none of their Crap Four having ANY shots on target for 95 mins in open play, FACT. The ref gave them a pen that they themselves did not know if it was or not and we still rose above that to get the save and get the second goal, only for the linesman to play hero for Spurs, nullifying an incident the ref saw and waved away. It would not have mattered how well or bad we played, we were in the lead and if the refs wanna ruin your life as they tried ever so hard to do last night, they will and they did.

12.) 05 Feb 2018 10:04:50
Everyone going on about the refs. If we hadnt allowed Spurs control of the second half we wouldn't be having this discussion. we clearly made defensive changes that caused us to be pinned back in our half for almost the entire last third of the game. Same reason we lost the UEFA cup final. Trying to defend a 1-0 way too early. Klopp is a great coach but his match day performances apart from being animated on the sideline is his biggest weakness. We have a better team than most others but Klopp gets out smarted with tactics in pretty much every game. Anyone remember the Swansea and West Brom games. If this was Rodgers you would all be slating him.

13.) 05 Feb 2018 10:43:49
It would have helped if we came out for the 2nd half and not allowed Spurs to control it, we sat very narrow along our own box and just let Spurs do whatever they wanted, a point is fair but if we had kept up our game it could of been better.

14.) 05 Feb 2018 11:25:36
That was an excellent summation Seano . I did n't think we were bad, just spurs in the second half upped their game and were better.

15.) 05 Feb 2018 15:24:03
A point can NEVER be fair if refs completely screwed up two big time calls just to rob you of them. People need to understand that, IMO. Also, us upping our game would not have guaranteed victory either. What we do know is that Spurs did nothing and they had all the possession cos we let them have it and they created next to nothing. So had it not been for those useless decisions that even the refs were not sure of, we are not having this convo. That is the reality, IMO.

16.) 05 Feb 2018 19:18:18
I think if we’d have won 2-1 Spurs would have felt hard done by. We dominated the first half, they dominated the second. It was a well balanced match.

However, the linesman got both penaltys wrong. They were both offside whether there was contact or not.



31 Jan 2018 04:22:42
Thought the energy levels of the team were much better against Huddersfield, more urgency though still, at moments, lacking in quality. Never the less 3-0 away from home will take that all day long - very important to bounce back and the team have, hopefully Karius really retains the number 1 spot now, it is clear he is miles better than Mignolet and that the defenders actually have some confidence in him, he must be first pick until the end of the season at the very least.

BT Sports commentary were also saying our second goal was poor goalkeeping - personally thought it was just a very clever finish from Firmino.

Big worry for me is Mane - is it me or has he lost some pace (or perhaps its confidence)? Seems an absolute shadow of the player that he was last season - is it possible for the sort of injury he sustained last season to impact a players pace and acceleration in such a way? I really hope not as I have a lot of time for the guy, just seems to be struggling in most games he plays at the minute.


1.) 31 Jan 2018 06:16:41
If Migs or karius had let that goal in at the near post the pundits would 100% have called it a goal keeping error. I agree with you that Firmino’s finish was cute but at least the pundits are being consistent.

Re Mane he nearly scored two headers tonight by being a yard faster. If they’d have gone in no one would be saying anything. It’s a game of margins. He’ll be back firing soon.

2.) 31 Jan 2018 06:37:09
Don't worry too much about Mane.

3.) 31 Jan 2018 06:50:29
Mane has been recorded sprinting faster than any other LFC player this season. Currently the 15th fastest recorded player in the league. I do think that he's either lacking a little in confidence or his 1 minute substitute appearance against Chelsea has changed his attitude slightly.

4.) 31 Jan 2018 07:00:59
This site would go ballistic if we conceded that second goal. When we score we only ever consider what our attack did, when we concede we only consider what our defence did. How good or bad the opposition was rarely comes into it.

5.) 31 Jan 2018 07:03:10
Fair point that stoneage if it was our goalkeeper they'd be getting roasted so perhaps consistent (though not necessarily fair) . I hope you are both right about Mane, I really like the guy as a player and as a person off the pitch, seems very grounded, so hope he rediscovers his quality as I really want him to do well.

6.) 31 Jan 2018 07:16:41
Why is everyone giving mane a hard time. I thought last night he showed attacking intent and made good runs. Both headers were not gimmes but at least he is getting in a position to score. It seems everyone needs a scapegoat and the “supporters” have collectively chosen mane. Give it a rest.

7.) 31 Jan 2018 09:27:34
If you get beaten by that angle from anything that goes between you and the post, it's poor goalkeeping. It was also a great finish, a tiny hole to get it through and enough power not to let the keeper rectify their positioning error but still poor keeping - just line Sane's goal against us.

Mane is having a tough time at the moment but with his injuries, he was bound to suffer in form sometime. He's still doing enough to justify selection though, you can tell from some flashes of his old self and his goals early january that his ability it bubbling under the surface and will explode back into life any daynow.

8.) 31 Jan 2018 11:11:12
Stoneage, no more use of the word 'cute' in reference to anything a out football please. It is the most caring word that has ever been introduced into commentary. Makes me wanna rip my TV off the wall. Nothing in football is cute. Well unless we're taking about that ex Chelsea physio. Funnily enough it was introduced about then haha. Probabky talking about her of mic then it slipped out after a goal and boom they all use it now.

9.) 31 Jan 2018 13:38:51
Hjke not sure whether you’re praisingthe finish or not. The thing everyone should notice is it was precisely done. He gave that keeper the eyes the entire time for a cut back. And he probably has 2cm either side where it would have been stopped. No power, just an amazing, thought out finish.



28 Jan 2018 04:27:33
Well that wasn't very nice viewing. Seemed very casual and passive for large parts of the first half, thought West Brom had an intensity and energy to their game that we lacked and was why they scored (of course our defending helped) . Just hope this isn't the start of a down turn in form - crucial part of the season, would be a bad time to start dropping tons of points.




23 Jan 2018 03:31:18
The team clearly has motivation issues against the smaller sides as they fail, time and again, to bring that same energy and desire they bring against the bigger teams. Lacklustre display with next to no energy from the team, very disappointing but, the biggest disappointment, is the players still thinking they can cruise in certain games - not enough leaders in the team, not enough hard workers (especially in midfield), much for the team to work on.





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12 Mar 2018 03:35:38
No worries mate, I have a lot of time for you and your opinion, good on you for having another look and changing your mind - not many do that.


{Ed025's Note - i try to be as fair as possible seano, there will always be extreme views where football is concerned mate but most are decent people even though it does not seem like it at times... cheers..



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11 Mar 2018 11:10:46
@langford - it was an excellent finish that few, if any, keepers would save. Karius did nothing particularly wrong, he was let down by the players in front of him.


{Ed025's Note - not so good on the second goal though seano..



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11 Mar 2018 07:31:43
What about Lovren woefully out of position, failing to even challenege Lukaku for the first header, which left the inexperienced TAA all alone facing Rashford? It's true TAA handled the situation badly but I expect senior players to step up and marshal them through tough games, not leave them isolated. Lovren was rubbish for both goals and for the entire first half, he was a weak point at centre back and a big part of the reason why they were able to score two goals (and should've scored another with Mata's chance) . I thought Lovren had turned his form around but it was the old, uncertain Lovren that we saw at Old Trafford and it disrupted the entire defence. TAA wasn't great but he is very young and learning - he needs to be allowed to make mistakes without fans savaging him - Lovren is a seasoned pro and should be doing better, it is more difficult to find excuses for him.




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07 Mar 2018 15:12:25
It makes sense from his perspective sadly. The Premier League is hyper-competitive, more than it has ever been before, and arguably the most competitive league in Europe. Younger players, unless they are truly spectacular, just don't get that many opportunities at the top sides in the Premier League - I think any youngster who had real ambition would be wise to look to Europe for more opportunities to develop, both as a player and a person, as they are facing a real uphill battle in the Premier League.




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06 Mar 2018 18:52:42
You never know redmist Monaco's stance may soften by the summer and a compromised price may be agreed - things change constantly. I wouldn't expect Jorginho to be that much cheaper given how well both he and Napoli are playing this season either. Quality, now more than ever, does not come cheap.





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15 Mar 2018 16:20:45
City would be the one to avoid as it is hard to imagine us beating them over 2 legs though I do think, out of all the teams left, we would give them one of the sternest tests. Wouldn't really fancy Bayern either - strong all over the pitch, solid at the back, clinical up front - I know we beat them pre-season but this is a whole other ball game. Madrid, Roma, Sevilla, Juve I would take as I think we can beat all of them. Barcelona are iffy - on the one hand we could do really well but on the other their attack could cause our defence all sorts of woes, undecided on them.


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11 Mar 2018 16:43:35
@Mark08 - to address your points about Klopp:

1) Why play Henderson vs Porto? I have no idea, a strange decision.

2) Why not set the defence up properly? I think he did, the defence simply had a brain fart, panicked, and found themselves 2-0 down before really getting settled. It is a defensive issue but not really Klopp's fault more the personnel.

3) He never changes things before it's too late, why? The second half was completely different to the first and it was clear that Klopp had changed the strategy as it was wave after wave of (albeit ineffective) attack. I think trying to be cautious in the first half was the problem and it allowed United to better implement their game plan without worrying about us too much.

4) Why was Oxlaide-Chamberlain substituted instead of Can/ Milner? Oxlaide-Chamberlain was woeful all game, constantly ran into United players, failed to distribute the ball properly, failed to really tackle or offer a presence in midfield and was deservedly subbed off. Can and Milner were not much better but Can at least offered a physicality and presence in midfield (which in my opinion he should of used more of) and Milner was, if nothing else (and there was little else), more reliable in terms of his passing. Still cannot understand why he takes right sided corners though, his are, by and large, dreadful.




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11 Mar 2018 15:41:31
Personally thought the handball was probably a penalty as it would have went through to Mane without Valencia's intervention. I don't really expect marginal calls to be given away from home though and it was a marginal call - both of the penalty shouts could have been given but neither of them were stonewall so it is what it is, cannot complain too much.




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11 Mar 2018 15:36:29
Right now the next game is the only one that matters - we need to win it and get 3 points, that should be the only focus.




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10 Mar 2018 14:56:26
Enjoy the points and the scintillating Mourinho football champ, you're in for many more wonderful games of football and it's no less than you deserve :)