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12 Jul 2019 13:50:24
big Virgil turns down Barcelona enquiry. Shows how far we have come.

grino75

1.) 12 Jul 2019 14:24:22
Why would he want to move to perennial euro semi-finalists?


2.) 12 Jul 2019 16:02:37
If the story is even true!


3.) 12 Jul 2019 16:42:57
While I'm sure he would turn them down considering his past comments about Liverpool. They can't afford him anyway, likely just a rumour.


4.) 12 Jul 2019 17:43:17
Never happened.


5.) 12 Jul 2019 18:00:14
Didn’t know Barcelona had a spare billion euros!


6.) 12 Jul 2019 18:07:05
Wasn't there some ridiculous clause about how much extra Barcelona had to pay for one of our players? Or is that just paper BS?


7.) 12 Jul 2019 18:07:05
Wasn't there some ridiculous clause about how much extra Barcelona had to pay for one of our players? Or is that just paper BS?


8.) 12 Jul 2019 19:15:32
I thought it was just that the full Coutinho fee would become payable if they buy another of our players. Wonder how that would work if he leaves.


9.) 12 Jul 2019 19:32:01
I think they're stuck with Coutinho for the time being. There's only a handful of clubs than can afford him, and I don't think any of them are interested.

I think the only viable destination this summer is Manchester United, but he's already ruled himself out of that move. Maybe Chelsea in a year. Or maybe they can offload him to PSG as part of a deal for Neymar.


10.) 13 Jul 2019 04:47:13
There's no way they could afford him anyway. Griezmann and De Jong at big money, then they're looking to sign Neymar for even more, and they still haven't reduced their wage bill with Suarez, Messi, Couts, Dembele etc still banging about.


11.) 13 Jul 2019 07:50:32
Virgil is happy for now but I wouldn’t be surprised in a year or two if Real Madrid or Barcelona show serious interest that he will push to leave.


12.) 13 Jul 2019 07:51:53
Yea the rumours I’ve heard (websites etc) is that Barcelona want to include him in the neymar deal. But still be interesting to know how that clause would work if he’s sold.


13.) 13 Jul 2019 09:32:36
Could this alleged approach be considered tapping up eds?

{Ed002's Note - Of course it isn't. But putting aside all of the completely stupid responses, perhaps van Dijk would do to Liverpool what Liverpool had him do to Southampton?}


14.) 13 Jul 2019 11:18:09
Was just about to say the same Ed002. The absolute biased blinkered rubbish some Liverpool fans spout is vomit inducing. I'm a Liverpool fan and love Virgil, but I'm under no illusions that if he feels the move would be better for him that he wouldn't push for it. Same goes for any player. It's about time some fans opened their eyes and got used to the fact that liverpool isn't the centre of the universe for these players. It's a job, and as in all walks of life people change jobs for what THEY perceive to be a better opportunity.


15.) 13 Jul 2019 22:51:31
Whether this story is true or not I never really understand peoples surprise if one of our players leaves. Real Madrid and Barcelona and PSG all pay considerably higher wages, why wouldn't you go? Neymar left Barcelona after all. What'
s Bale on in Spain more than he'd get in the premier league I imagine,


 

 

29 Jun 2019 09:44:42
ed002 just see Palace are odds on favourites to sign Clyne. Do they hold any true interest or just a case of 1+1=3 because they sold Wan-Bissaka.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - The odds are meaningless of course. CP have had a bid or two rejected for their first choice and have moved on to their second choice, but he is attracting attention from other PL sides and they have a third choice they have made contact for only to be told there are two Italian sides trying to strike a deal involving players in exchange. Then comes Clyne but the money needs to be reduced a bunch.}


1.) 29 Jun 2019 13:48:11
ed002 what's your thoughts on Clyne he gets loads of stick on here. Am not sure myself he is as bad as everybody says. Thanks Ed have a good weekend.

{Ed002's Note - He could provide the cover required at RB if a buyer cannot be found.}


2.) 29 Jun 2019 14:38:28
Clyne receives much criticism here due to his lifestyle. However if Liverpool have no intention of ever playing him, then why not ask for a realistic transfer fee to move him on.


3.) 29 Jun 2019 15:16:02
GFlash IMO, Clyne to me, was always a poor player and Klopp had been trying to get rid since the summer of 2016 and IMO, it is why he fast-tracked TAA to the first team as a RB. Clyne is a poor defender who lacks end product offensively, can't cross, can't defend and is a ball-watcher who is half the time, out of position. Sure he is a good athlete BUT we know good athletes don't always make good footballers. See Kyle Walker. All of these have nothing to do with his lifestyle cos I observed all these BEFORE I kneww anything about his lifestyle.


4.) 29 Jun 2019 16:02:07
Fair enough Redwolf, I only mentioned his poor lifestyle as Edo1 had previously mentioned it. With all that in mind, maybe Liverpool should drop their asking price to move him on as Edo2 has mentioned.


5.) 29 Jun 2019 18:26:50
Clyne did well as cover against Man Utd.
I dont think it would be a disaster if he was RB cover and Mignolet was second choice keeper.
Clynes lifestyle I cannot comment on but if it is so poor, then Liverpool should just move him on.


6.) 29 Jun 2019 18:43:59
There is a reason why Clyne is not in the picture. The club want rid and that surely says enough about the situation.

There must be a reason why Bournemouth do not want to take the option to sign him permanently either otherwise they would have made an offer after loaning him.


7.) 29 Jun 2019 22:23:57
Just let him go even if the fee is minimal, hes not gunna play and he doesnt seem like a top guy. If he wants a football career he has the chance to make one then.


8.) 30 Jun 2019 16:50:35
Whats minimal? 4.5.mill? why should we, we shoud easily be able to bring in between 10-12m for Clyne with the silly prices going round these days.


 

 

14 Jun 2019 09:35:16
ed002 any truth in Leeds looking to sign Wilson and Kent, If so would any of them be loans or are we only willing to sell these players now.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - I think Leeds only wanted a loan for Kent and Liverpool want to sell. As for Wilson again the request was for a loan and Liverpool have been trying to attract a buyer but there are those wanting to have Klopp look at the player before a decision is made.}


1.) 14 Jun 2019 10:58:20
Are Rangers interested in taking Kent or is it a case that they will be out priced of a move for him.

{Ed002's Note - They want him.}


2.) 14 Jun 2019 11:34:47
ed002 on Kent I don't watch much Scottish only the old firm derby. So how good was he last season I know he got the young player of the year, So would he be ok in the premier league for one of the smaller sides or much Championship level. And is there anybody else looking at signing him.
Thanks again ed002 save travels.

{Ed002's Note - He is well liked, particularly by SG.}


3.) 14 Jun 2019 14:11:27
Grino, he was slow to get started last season, didn't really show his best form until after the turn of the year, but played very well down the stretch.

It's hard to judge wingers in Scottish football and how they'll do with the English game because we just don't have the athleticism in the league that English teams do, especially in defense. A pacy winger always looks good in Scotland because they can outpace most defenses, whereas up against a Trent or a Wan-Bissaka, he'd probably get burned for pace.

In short, good season, but needs proving at a higher level still.


4.) 15 Jun 2019 02:03:14
I doubt rangers even have £3m never mind 12m to spend on Kent?


 

 

21 May 2019 13:04:18
ed002 any truth in Wilson to wolves. he would be a big step up for them on Traoré who looks like he will never have any end product. cheers ed002.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - Interest may well be there but I suspect much will depend on what happens with Derby and what money they will have if they were to be promoted.}


1.) 21 May 2019 15:36:53
If derby are promoted could you see him doing another season on loan? I know there is talk of him getting a chance at pre-season.

I can imagine at his age he might be getting to the point he wants a permanent transfer.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will let him leave.}


 

 

03 Dec 2018 13:56:59
With us playing this new style and formation could we not play the front 3 as last season and play Shaqiri in the number 10 role, bobby not looking the same player there and Mo runs from right to centre when bobby drops in the hole and pulls the defenders out is really missing this season.

grino75

1.) 03 Dec 2018 14:39:35
I was thinking the same, but there doesn't seem to be the same intensity off the ball with the press etc, which think I understand from this site is intentional so our players don't burn out? Arguably, it feels like city (in particular) still have more quality depth in each position allowing them to rotate more and retain a level of intensity. To qualify that, generally if our front 3 are fit in a competitive game they end to play, where as city interchange between 2 options for each position and you can't easily predict the selection. I would imagine at least Bobby would likely have been rested/ rotated if Klippers trusted Sturridge/ others, although that might change after the mighty Divock threatens to live up to his potential.! Or i'd guess in the summer window if funds allow and a few leave?


2.) 03 Dec 2018 19:29:47
I am a bit bemused by this tactical change as it does seem to have blunted our edge a little. I get the reduced intensity thing but I'm sure we can still achieve that by having our front 3 playing in the same formation as last season. But what do I know, and why am I complaining when we're doing very well at the moment in the league.


3.) 04 Dec 2018 07:09:32
For me Firmino is still the vital cog with the movement he does without the ball being the most important part of our offense.
Even if Salah has really improved he's off-the-ball game, we still cannot afford to drop Firmino in big games.
Mid 3 of Keita, Fabinho and Shaqiri is what i expect to happen more and more.


4.) 04 Dec 2018 16:15:58
I for one think Bobby is are best player just pure class, but I think this formation and role is nullifying both him and Salah a bit as well. I do think there is something missing from are midfield 3 and Klopp is trying to get the mix right and with are back 4 and supper goalkeepers who is the best keeper I have seen play for Liverpool since I started watching them in the early 80s when Grobbelaar was number 1 so seen few goalkeepers. So 1-0 seems to be enough to win a game for the first time since Rafa was here so it will be interesting to see us against where we could do with a few goals early on because I know 1-0 will do but no one will won't it to be 1-0 with 10ins to go.
sorry for the rant YNWA.


5.) 04 Dec 2018 16:17:37
We are still winning people 🤷🏼‍♂️.


6.) 07 Dec 2018 20:54:28
Remember why Bobby is playing there? Fekir was our top target and was set to play behind the front 3. He is not only highly skilful, great at set pieces and scores heaps but also great at winning back possession. Once that transfer got stalled JK had to change plans. Throw in Nab and Fab taking longer than anticipated to settle, Ox being injured and the front 3 playing at about 30% of last seasons form and there you have the reasons why we look a bit toothless compared to last season. Of course we'll be looking for someone like Fekir. (or maybe him at a reduced price? ) to play that role that has been ear-marked for the new set up. When that happens and others come into form we will be at the very top alongside the best sides on the planet.


 

 

 

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03 Jul 2019 09:19:48
ed002 if Lovren left we would be looking for a replacement and we are looking for cover at left back. have we ever looked or showed any interest in Nathan Ake.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - Yes and no.}


1.) 03 Jul 2019 19:06:28
Thank heavens, Ed012. Ake is dreadful at CB and according to Ed01, does not even want to play CB cos in reality, he wants to play in midfield.

{Ed001's Note - that is not according to me, that is what he has said himself publicly on numerous occasions.}


2.) 04 Jul 2019 13:14:06
You're right about one thing redwolf, he is a poor CB, if we signed him id have to pinch myself to make sure im not having a nightmare. Not anywhere near lovrens level. Big Dejan gets his fair share of criticism, and he is capable of the odd brain freeze. But we're talking about someone who played in both the Ucl final and the WC final last year. Can anyone remember Cr7 doing much in that final? I cant, and that's coz lovren had him in his pocket. Good CB, good guy. If he felt he wanted to leave i would wish him all the best and thank him for his services. I bet the big man would have tears in his eyes if he did leave. The more i write in this post, the more im liking DL. His europa league header! And i remember us fans voting him player of the month after he had an absolute shocker of a month. That was touching. I voted for him.


 

 

22 Jun 2019 10:59:29
ed001 can you add Alan Hansen to the player profiles please. One of my top 3 Liverpool players of all time. the Young fans that never see him player are very unfortunate. They could have seen a defender at the next level to VVD. Now he was a player that we seem to never able to replace as since his retirement we have not won the league. And seems to get left out when they bring up the best defenders ever. 8 league titles and 3 European Cup in 13 years and am sure without the ban we could have had at least 1 more.

grino75

{Ed001's Note - he is in there don't worry, best centre back I can remember seeing.}


1.) 22 Jun 2019 11:24:45
Not a million miles away from VvD but offered more going forward. Was never phased and always up for carrying the all into midfield. Big Virg could get there one day - possibly the nearest thing in today’s game to a player like Hansen. Would you agree Ed?

{Ed001's Note - probably yes.}


2.) 22 Jun 2019 11:52:16
Beautiful defender, graceful.


3.) 22 Jun 2019 12:13:20
The best defender I’ve ever seen live was John McLelland who played for Watford in mid 80s. He was like VVD, Hansen and Lawrenson rolled in to one - he read the game with ease and was fast and strong - can any of the Ed's remember him or anyone else on here?

{Ed001's Note - never heard of him sorry.}


4.) 22 Jun 2019 12:30:29
John McLelland? Northern Ireland international, played for about 100 different teams? Right up there with Hansen and Co!

Listen, I'm a Northern Ireland fan and I love nothing more than bigging them up but it's a bit of a stretch, even for me to put big John in such high esteem, but I love your praise all the same. 👍👍.


5.) 22 Jun 2019 12:49:38
to say he was VVD, Hansen and Lawrenson rolled in to one seems a bit of a stretch when the highlight of his career was playing for Watford. Am sure he would have been picked up by one of the big teams if he was anywhere near any of them 3. Growing up the only defender I can remember that was close to Hansen would have been Paul McGrath and who new how good he could have been without his demons. ed001 what did you think about Paul McGrath.


6.) 22 Jun 2019 13:18:15
Whilst I don't disagree with any of the platitudes regarding Hansen, I have to say that the job of defending got harder after the back pass rule.
It is harder still with the game being less physical.
Hansen would thrive today, but many old school players would not. BTW that scenario is reversed for some players who would not be able to handle the physicality of football in the 70s and 80s.


7.) 22 Jun 2019 17:54:16
Good points there Mikey 👍🏻.


8.) 22 Jun 2019 18:46:53
I saw McLelland live over 50 times when living in Watford (my dad was a fan) and I used to watch Hansen when lived in Southport and I can assure you if you’d seen him live that many times you’d think differently.


 

 

20 Jun 2019 08:26:57
ed025 you must be very happy with the Andre Gomes signing for £22m seems something of a snip in this day and age. With what players are getting priced at even better considering he had a season loan and looked good in the league.

grino75

{Ed025's Note - it seems a bargain to me grino...but barca are our feeder club so it was only fair mate.. :)


1.) 20 Jun 2019 16:39:06
ed025 that sounds like double standards to me you was only calling us for buying Southampton players yesterday lol. But I did think he would have gone for a lot more than that and am surprised Utd or spurs never made a move for him. Would have been an upgrade on both the teams midfielders.

{Ed025's Note - he wanted to go to a team thats going to challenge for the top honours grino....thats why he picked us mate.. :)


2.) 20 Jun 2019 16:40:22
Tbf Ed025 this is the Liverpool page mate🤪. Joking aside great piece of business mate, you boys are going to win the transfer window again! 😋.

{Ed025's Note - we want a bit more than that virgil mate.. :)


3.) 20 Jun 2019 17:11:30
According to few reports, Barcelona sale of André Gomes to Everton will earn them €2m in bonuses if the Toffees qualify for the Champions’ League.

Ed025,
In your opinion, what are the chances that Barcelona will get that €2m?

{Ed025's Note - the same sort of chance as arsenal, utd, and chelsea TRK, if we get a 20 goal a season striker and have the sort of luck liverpool had last season then its not totally out of the question mate.. :)


4.) 20 Jun 2019 18:12:26
If your goalie had regular length arms don’t forget ed ;)

{Ed025's Note - yeah that as well mate.. :)


5.) 20 Jun 2019 18:15:13
Fair enough, Ed025.
In your opinion, Who can be that realistic signing?

{Ed025's Note - im not really sure to be honest TRK, callum wilson has been linked but hes not for me mate as hes a big fish in a small pond and he will be overpriced, i will sit back and let brands and silva weave their magic i think as its been rumoured they know more about football than me...i must emphasize that at this juncture it is just a rumour.. :)


6.) 20 Jun 2019 19:28:20
You’re still on editing duties after an early start 25.
Lunch is for wimps eh? 👍🏻.

{Ed025's Note - cru de te ala plat....as they say in the durdogne mate.. :)


7.) 21 Jun 2019 10:13:48
Ed025. Aaagghhh, i can't help but bite! Liverpool were lucky!?! We were amazing!

Great bit of business with gomes though dude, id be pleased if we signed him. I dunno, im just hungry for a new signing. Sad i know.

I can see him and siggurdson working well together. I hope you can knock one or more of the london clubs down a peg or two.

{Ed025's Note - you were lucky robbie but you get the luck you deserve they say, last minute goals, horrendous keeper mistakes and refs giving you the benefit of the doubt on some crucial decisions you had them all mate, add to that the extreme fortune you had with the lack of injuries and its finding gold teeth down the toilet syndrome..


8.) 21 Jun 2019 10:49:53
Nah, nothing special imo, he'll be a flop. Good luck to the lad of course, he's alright at best though imo, far too overhyped. There's a reason why he's gone to Everton lol nobody else is daft enough.

I'm not calling him terrible, far from it but I don't think he's as good as people are making out nowhere even near.

{Ed025's Note - he walks into your midfield salah, you will no doubt ask who for?...the answer is any bleedin one of them mate..


9.) 21 Jun 2019 14:26:57
£22m is about right for Gomes isn’t it? He bombed badly at Barcelona and didn’t pull up any trees at Everton last season either. He seems technically ok but just doesn’t have any impact on any of the games I’ve seen him play in.
At that price if he was any good he’d be at a CL club surely?
I hope he does well for you Ed25 but I just don’t see it. Actually I take that back, I hope he’s rubbish and you spend the whole season in the relegation places ;-)

{Ed025's Note - ooooh ...pint of boddingtons for BP me thinks, injuries and not willing to suck up to messi meant he had to leave barca, he came to us with no pre-season under his belt as well so there are reasons we have probably not seen the best of him yet mate, but when we played at runner-up central (anfield) he was the best player on the pitch by a country mile..


10.) 21 Jun 2019 18:17:50
Not a chance in this world would he walk into our midfield which is why he's just signed for Everton mate lol. This says it all.

{Ed025's Note - he is too skillful for liverpool salah, klopp likes workhorses who run all day in midfield and they are not expected to create anything or score goals...which is the main reason jordan henderson is your skipper mate..


11.) 21 Jun 2019 21:35:25
Hahaha each to their own Ed25 mate, we'll have to disagree on this one :) - how you feeling about next season mate? feeling confident or? Seriously though, for the City I hope your lot do well, obviously not against Liverpool ;) but I wish Everton all the best.

{Ed025's Note - cheers salah, it would be nice if merseyside could rule again like we did in the 80s mate..


 

 

08 Jun 2019 12:53:15
ed001 do you see most of are incomings being done before pre season starts again like last year. And do you expect the transfer window to speed up from Thursday when the international window opens.
And with Chelsea appealing there ban can they sign anybody till this is sorted out.

grino75

{Ed001's Note - yes, yes and they have not yet requested the signing ban to be lifted.}


1.) 08 Jun 2019 13:55:03
ed001 I think he is well down the pecking order now and at his age should move on. I can't remember what game it was this season but he did play really well late on in the season then don't think we see him again. I think it was 3 season ago he was playing really well for us but then not really played in the last 2 season.

{Ed001's Note - you've lost me.}


2.) 08 Jun 2019 14:08:41
sorry ed it was a reply to the Lallana post above lol.

{Ed001's Note - oh ok.}


3.) 08 Jun 2019 14:11:21
Ed001, he was replying to the post above one regarding Lallana.


4.) 08 Jun 2019 14:23:32
Lallana, wrong thread, Ed 😉.


5.) 08 Jun 2019 15:01:23
I suspect he is talking about Lallana and the game he is referring to is the Burnley game in March.


 

 

08 Jun 2019 12:38:49
a shame to lose hazard from the prem, But glad I don't have to close my eyes every time he gets hold of the ball against us. In my eyes been the best player in the prem for a good few years think he carried Chelsea's attack.

grino75

1.) 08 Jun 2019 12:43:59
Hazard is a top player and to be honest I wish he had stayed. It's much better to watch these players in the Prem than other leagues.


2.) 08 Jun 2019 12:49:09
Im glad he's gone! Killer player who gave me heart palpations for years.

Good luck to him in madrid. Not that he needs it, he is going to shine in that team. I bet he wins the balon dor in the next 2/ 3 years.


3.) 08 Jun 2019 13:09:22
Surprised at Chelsea letting him go given their upcoming transfer ban - going to be hard to replace their best player from what's available in their current squad. Not that I'm that concerned about a rival team really 😁.


4.) 08 Jun 2019 13:22:33
Good luck to the lad, he's a good player and it's a shame our league loses somebody like that but who can blame him.


5.) 08 Jun 2019 14:28:51
Fair play to Chelsea for letting him go despite the current transfer ban.
They seem to have got a decent deal considering.
Hazard was great for the Premier League but he always turned it on against Liverpool, invariably MoM, so our future clashes with the Blues mightn’t be so tough.
Looking forward to seeing what Pulisic can do.

{Ed002's Note - Pulisic is not a EH replacement.}


6.) 08 Jun 2019 15:02:55
Clearly one of the most talented players the league has seen in recent years. He wasn't always the most consistent but he was untouchable when on form. As a Liverpool fan it pained me how often those games seemed to against us haha. One of my favourite players to watch at times.

Regardless he always came across like a nice chap and I wish him well. God knows he's going to need it with those Real Madrid fans. Can't think of another fan base who regularly boo club legends while they're still at the club.


7.) 10 Jun 2019 04:44:35
A great talented player that can't be doubted. I was never a huge fan of him though as a persona. People quickly forgot the ballboy incident, he often sulked and spent large periods showing little commitment. Remember that season under mourinho where he was virtually invisible but never dropped. As a Liverpool fan, I would have never accepted that lack of care. He seemed to not bother giving a toss whenever he lost the love for a manager . Lampard said that when conte lost control of the players, hazard would show no effort in training. Summer after summer he flirted with transfers and constantly made comments with a complete lack of commitment to Chelsea. A hugely talented player with probably the best close control I've seen but I think he showed a lack respect on too many occasions to earn full respect from me. If he was a Liverpool for these last 6 or 7 years and acted like that at times I wouldn't have liked it one bit.

Real Madrid looked empty without Ronaldo and the fans will want hazard to inject that magic. His past shows patches of poor inconsistent form though and those fans could turn quickly on him.


 

 

 

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30 Jun 2019 16:01:49
ed002 how good was he last season I see reports that he was playing very good. But I don't watch germen football.
Did he sign a contract extension as he still has 4 years left on it,
has there been any interest in a permanent transfer from anybody, I know there was a lot off paper talk about atletico madrid showing an interest in him. If so would they be interested in a loan?

grino75

{Ed002's Note - Herta Berlin were very pleased with him and would have purchased him and the whole stinking mess could be over. Sadly Liverpool overpriced him for a sale and they will look to continue to screw up his career.}


 

 

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30 Jun 2019 09:41:37
ed002 will it be another loan or transfer?

grino75

{Ed002's Note - He is priced out of a transfer so it will be another loan - almost certainly back to Berlin - a couple of other sides enquired as well.}


 

 

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29 Jun 2019 13:48:11
ed002 what's your thoughts on Clyne he gets loads of stick on here. Am not sure myself he is as bad as everybody says. Thanks Ed have a good weekend.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - He could provide the cover required at RB if a buyer cannot be found.}


 

 

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27 Jun 2019 12:43:10
is Hoever not a right back so with them 2 and Gomez if they are to get to the first team. They could be 3 of are back 4 for years to come.

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26 Jun 2019 08:49:17
Aspas I find it strange that Edwards would ring Lille to say we don't want Pepe. Aspas I would just like to say am not looking to buy your house. Virgilfc as for Cornet I find signing him a strange one to surly Harry Wilson should get a chance before we go and spend 25m on him, Not sure he much of an improvement he would be on Wilson.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - There has been a sugegstion of tapping up made about Pepe and I would think that any call would be in respect of that. As far as I know there has not been any illegal approach made. Perhaps slowdog76 should consider what he says about calls to Fulham as that raises another matter about attempted cheating by Liverpool. I would hope that after the last incident the club has made it clear to Klopp that it is entirely unacceptable.}


 

 

 

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16 Jul 2019 22:25:39
not seen Maxwel Cornet play but what's wrong with wanting Brewster kent or Wilson to be given a chance over him. the most goals he has scored in a season in the league is 7 and Ligue 1 is not the most competitive in the world even Balotelli averages over a goal every 2 games. Wilson scored 15 league goals last season just under a quarter of derby's goals. And 3 assists. And was Brewster not the top goals scorer at the under 17 world cup. And kent got 6 goals in only 23 games and was rangers young player of the year and I know the scottish league is not great but you all ways good to have local lads around the team.

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13 Jul 2019 11:59:46
sorry Ed033 Suarez comes down the pecking order for not winning any of the big comps and all the trouble he brought with him. but he did nearly win us the league that season with one of the best player season I have seen.

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13 Jul 2019 08:10:35
VVD, Allison, Hyypia, Alonso and then Torres. followed very close by Salah, Mane and Suarez if we had one the league that year with Suarez as much as a rat he was he would have been number one. But he comes.

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{Ed033's Note - Who comes? Is it the one who won the league? :)


 

 

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07 Jul 2019 17:34:39
ed001 with this old vs modern day I can remember the great emlyn hughes saying, yeah we could not run like them but once we got the ball they would never get it back. the closes to the old players from are era would be paul scholes nothing like what footballers are now but was all ways in control.

grino75

{Ed001's Note - the improved facilities etc have made the game more watchable, but they have meant kids don't have to develop the same skill level as they had to in the past.}


 

 

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07 Jul 2019 13:43:36
ed001 am with you on Messi, and for me Ronaldo there has been loads of players better than them but they did not play on the pitches they play on today and got kicked from pillar to post. and I don't think the quality of defenders are anywhere near as good as the past. Am 44 and Maradona is the best player I have seen in my time but I would put Zidane, Fat Ronaldo all above Messi and Ronaldo. Then there is Pele, Cruyff, Di Stfano, Pusks, Eusbio, Garrincha and best to name just a few from the past that I did not get to see who like you said played on awful Pitches. I would love to see them players playing on these pitches with the light weight boots and balls they play with to day and see what they could do.

grino75

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. It is not even true that all modern day players are fitter, the likes of Shankly and Matthews were incredibly fit and could have easily lived in the modern day football world due to their dedication to training. And yes I do mean the great Bill Shankly, as he was very much a fitness fanatic who didn't drink or smoke to keep himself as fit as could be.}