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18 Aug 2017 15:54:54
According to Paul Joyce Liverpool have rejected a £118 million bid for Coutinho.

1.) 18 Aug 2017 16:10:52
Stupid move by the club.

2.) 18 Aug 2017 16:14:15
Good the owners are passing a message to the rest of the squad and to the other teams that Liverpool cannot be forced into doing anything they don't want to either by a player or another club. We have our price they either pay it and take him or he stays where he is and in a world cup year we 'll see if he is willing to risk his place in the Brazil team.

{Ed002's Note - This is nothing to do with the owners, and nobody is listening to any messages. It is like some sort of joke reading these posts.}

3.) 18 Aug 2017 16:15:45
Holding our for 135 milll I've heard. How true that is though i don't know.

4.) 18 Aug 2017 16:16:44
Why if a) they want to keep the player or b) they think this under values the player?

5.) 18 Aug 2017 16:17:19
Yeah really stupid move keeping your best player.

6.) 18 Aug 2017 16:17:40
Hopefully they get the hint and we get one of season out of him!

7.) 18 Aug 2017 16:33:10
A 'statement of intent' or another 'smokescreen' lol.

8.) 18 Aug 2017 16:34:50
100 odd million would be a lot to spend on an unnecessary message don't you think? People need to get out of the tabloid way of thinking. The acceptance or rejection of an offer is nothing to do with any other clubs or players. We don't have time for an adequate replacement to come in so unless a ridiculous offer comes in, it won't happen. It's the same with RBL - don't need to sell, won't sell, and so the list goes on.

9.) 18 Aug 2017 16:51:11
If there was a ready made replacement available, I would agree that it was stupid. Right now there is no one who fills the void he would leave. Plus I'm glad we're not allowing Barcelona to bullying us into selling.

10.) 18 Aug 2017 17:04:07
Yeah, real stupid move keeping a player that doesn't want to stay Halifax.

11.) 18 Aug 2017 17:34:40
"so unless a ridiculous offer comes in, it won't happen" is ONE HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN MILLION POUNDS not ridiculous enough for a man that cost £8m and wants to leave.

12.) 18 Aug 2017 17:42:36
Apparently made up of a lot of add ons.

13.) 18 Aug 2017 18:37:09
What good is another £118m to spend when we can't spend the money we already have. Lack of cash is not our problem, lack of attainable first team players to improve our team is. Selling our best player won't help this either.

14.) 18 Aug 2017 19:00:32
Absolutely nailed on 5G.

15.) 18 Aug 2017 19:01:37
Amen to that 5 gold, if we can't use the money to improve thw squad then its useless. We lose our beat player and can't replace him but we are a few million quid better off? No thanks.

16.) 18 Aug 2017 19:12:00
You need to forget about how much he cost. By that definition Harry Kane isn't worth anywhere near what it would cost to buy him. Or Dele Alli etc etc. It's about what he is worth now to us as a club and 114million isn't ridiculous or over the top for one of the worlds best, most creative players in his position. Who could we go and get for that amount? Think before you get crazy about zeros.

17.) 18 Aug 2017 19:16:30
People keep saying Barcelona are comi g after our best player, there after coutinho not mane guys.

18.) 18 Aug 2017 19:19:01
THE most sense of read on here in a long time 5 Gold Stars. Well said sir.

19.) 18 Aug 2017 19:22:35
I think we'd cope ok without him. We've managed before. What would we get out of him if we deny him his move?

20.) 18 Aug 2017 19:34:04
Think its a good message from the board to the fans that their not all about profit. also, how much of this is just Barcelona using transfer publicity to cover their current gradual decline from being Europe's no.1?

21.) 18 Aug 2017 19:50:36
Its not that we can't buy players with the money we have, its that the clubs don't want to sell. We could still spend money needlessly on secondary targets.
You all need to realise that even without Coutinho or Sturridge we have still scored goals, we need a defense, and better organisation in defense.
As Macca said, it is entirely possible that we are waiting for confirmation of CL qualification before making our moves.

22.) 18 Aug 2017 20:01:23
Well I am tied on this, I think if they offer £118 mil straight with no add ons, I would take it. BUT not at this time in the window!
Basically easy, and inferred by Eds - teams panic buying pay more at this stage. All will know we have £118 mil "in the bank" and anyone we want will be £20mil more! Exactly the same as what we see with Barcelona having £200mil "in the bank"
It's random time!

23.) 18 Aug 2017 20:10:29
If we accept s 130 million offer we could nab deli Ali. Spurs are always willing to do business if the price is right.

24.) 18 Aug 2017 20:39:58
If the report i just read is correct no wonder they turned it down. 82.1 mil guaranteed the rest in clauses, which range from goals scored, winning La Liga, winning Champs league and winning Ballon d'Or.

25.) 18 Aug 2017 16:25:31
If its nothin too do wid owners ed whos it too do with, we all going dullalley wid this transfer window an this a gossip site so we jus tryin too grasp some optimism.

26.) 18 Aug 2017 16:33:40
Eds, sorry if I'm a bit slow but, what do you mean by it has nothing to do with our owners?

27.) 18 Aug 2017 16:54:47
Ed002 you say it's got nothing to do with the owners? Am I reading that wrong? If the club have turned down a new offer or if they accept it, it's got everything to do with owners surely?


28.) 18 Aug 2017 22:11:52
Does that figure include the statue?

29.) 18 Aug 2017 23:01:16
The owners don't run the club, they own it.

30.) 19 Aug 2017 00:39:01
Supposedly the offer is for 80 Million with the remaining 36 Million as add-ons. And the 80 Million is not to be paid up front; maybe as much as over five years. So what's the point? Sell Coutinho and buy VVD or Kieta for almost the same amount? No wonder it got rejected immediately.

31.) 19 Aug 2017 03:37:12
Yup 82.1 upfront and the rest is is on performance related like Cout becoming a Good, save the world with Spiderman and become a member of the intergalactic peace keeper.

32.) 19 Aug 2017 07:07:28
The owners employ the people who run the club.

33.) 19 Aug 2017 07:54:00
If the terms really are that level then well done the club for turning it down. If they feel has to be over 100m then that has to be what the club will get. When is irrelevant to an extent (I would think spread payments are quite useful for accounting and revenue purposes for most clubs), that it is money that will be paid is the issue.

Still less laughable clauses quoted there than Palace's initial Benteke bid including a chunk being reliant on them qualifying for ECL.

34.) 19 Aug 2017 09:44:03
Tbh just my opinion, couts should have thought about the potential of Barcelona when signing a 5 year deal with no release clause, if rumours are true then Barcelona have been sniffing for over a year or so, surely he or his agent would have knew this,

Fair play to Liverpool for sticking to there guns, he might want to ask his agent a few questions tho,

Hopefully if he is here in September this can all get put behind and stick together,

(Thoughts and prayers are with the people in Barcelona and all the friends and families of the injured and the sadly lost)

{Ed001's Note - Barca were not sniffing around him, he was sniffing around them. I believe his choice to sign the new contract was based on a belief that they would not come in for him for at least a year, if at all.}

35.) 19 Aug 2017 18:26:41
Great result today 1st off, I am fascinated too see wat this guys attitude is like if we don't sell him, jus going off wat paul joyces reported that he said phil would never play for us again or wear the shirt he could actually redeem him self by knuckling down giving us one season then we can sell him, he never asked for a clause in his contract so he should show respect, I know players these days have no loyalty especially those from south america an europe but this is showing him in a bad light he could leave on good terms from the club that has made him a world star and a 1st teamer for brazil he is really comin into his own as a world class talent an we could so do with him.

36.) 19 Aug 2017 21:26:09
Ed 001.if what your saying is true about couts sniffing around Barcelona before signing his contract, then it seems he has gambled and lost, I can understand why he'd wanna go, but he must have realised at the time this could be a possible outcome. can't have it both ways.

{Ed002's Note - I have been explaining this to you for more than a year.}

37.) 20 Aug 2017 09:32:34
Mane is our best player.

38.) 20 Aug 2017 22:41:29
The first reply to op just hit 100 down votes 😂 haven't seen that for a long time xD.

39.) 21 Aug 2017 03:32:15
I wouldn't have sold neither. LFC say Not For Sale, at a terrible time in the window, after selling Neymar, and build an offer at 80m that could potentially reach 118m. Not to mention some paid over 5 years. And (if rumours are true) give LFC a deadline to reconsider? hahaha. Did the Madrid drumming knock ya senseless?




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17 Mar 2019 19:13:09
If anyone is doubting the progress this team has made we now have more points than we got in the whole of last season and we still have 7 more games to play.

1.) 17 Mar 2019 19:50:50
Still you have people whinging about the team.

2.) 17 Mar 2019 20:16:53
We were very lucky today. Klopps game management is sorely lacking. TAA probably played the worst game I have seen him play. I know he is young and inconsistent is the more, but Klopp left him on for 90 minutes. Salah was never going to score today he stayed on until 92nd minute. It's ok to leave him on when we are winning by 5 but until he gets back to scoring he needs to come off if we need a goal like we did today and give someone else a chance. But not Sturridge. He lost the chance to wear the shirt when we played Wolves in fa cup and he never broke sweat.

3.) 17 Mar 2019 20:37:58
3 more wins and that is our record PL points total.

4.) 17 Mar 2019 20:58:19
Well said smeg, we're doing fantastic, I'm really proud of the club for how far we've come, everybody else should be too. There's another 18 teams in the league who would love to be where we're at right now and City will be bloody bricking it, we've made it difficult for them.

5.) 17 Mar 2019 21:49:21
To the above poster our record PL point total is 86 accrued in 2008/ 2009. So actually it's 4 wins or 3 wins and 2 draws to beat it.

6.) 17 Mar 2019 21:39:37
I don't agree Langland. Mo will always get chances. On another day he'd score a hatrick. I'd rather that than have a player who creates nothing.

7.) 17 Mar 2019 22:27:19
After 31 games last season, our record was :
P31, W18, D9, L4, GD+39, Pts 63, 4th in table.

After 41 games this season, our record is :
P31, W23, D7, L1, GD+52, Pts 76, 1st in table.

Seriously, is there anything to mean about?

8.) 17 Mar 2019 22:31:30
I find it so frustrating how people only measure Salah’s performance in goals. He brings so much more to the team and I can’t believe some people (especially pundits! ) ignore it to create some ‘Salah crisis’ narrative. 😑.

9.) 17 Mar 2019 22:42:32
Salah, most of the other 18 clubs did n't spend a fraction of what we spent in the last few years . The last 3 years we out spent United and this never happened before . so Klopp is very lucky to have the backing that he has and unless he delivers.

10.) 18 Mar 2019 00:51:12
Langland and anyone else down on a Liverpool win.

It wasn't so long ago that statistics were being paraded around about results after midweek European games. It used to be common place for teams to drop points after playing in Europe. It says so much about the standard to even get close to winning the league that noone is talking about that anymore.

3 games in 7 days, 2 away, 1 in Germany against Bayern Munich and we won all 3. That's a mighty return in my eyes.

11.) 18 Mar 2019 08:39:33
Cant believe I messed up that math I was so confident 😂😂 anyway we will set our record total this year regardless.

12.) 18 Mar 2019 10:50:31
Roy that’s a pointless stat, go back to 4 years and they have outspent us. Could keep going.

13.) 18 Mar 2019 11:21:49
Salah works his socks off for the team he hasn't scored as many as last season but that would have taken some doing. the front three also haven't been firing on all cylinders but have still scored loads. did you see how Mo ran back when Fulham were 3 on 1.
cmon lads believe and stick together.

14.) 18 Mar 2019 13:11:02
Precisely worzal and that's why he stays on in the majority of occasions because he does work hard for the team.

He is over thinking at the moment but it will click for him again soon. Let's be thankful we have him and mane who has been excellent this season.

15.) 18 Mar 2019 19:37:20
Anyone is judging any of the front 3 ONLY on goals scored, is doing them a HUGE disservice and frankly, knows next to NOTHING about what the manager actually wants them to do.



25 Apr 2018 06:52:10
To be honest I find all of this angst over conceding 2 late goals a little embarrassing, we all want success but as soon as things don’t go exactly to plan some people start bricking it. This is the champions league semi final, if Roma can beat us by 3 clear goals in the second leg they deserve to be in the final but we are in a fantastic position, if we can’t have a little faith in this team now then when can we?

{Ed025's Note - im with you smeg..

1.) 25 Apr 2018 07:18:52
Agreed Smeg and I think deep down everyone would of taken a 3 goal advantage before the game. However I think people get annoyed that these goals are being conceded not because of Roma’s quality really, but because of silly mistakes on our part. Yeah we can’t control the refs pen decision but I’m pretty sure one of the goals Salah set up was offside so swings and roundabouts really. However between that and Lovrens usual blunder we let them back in and are again our own worst enemy. The tie was dead at 5-0 and now they have hope when there should have been none.

2.) 25 Apr 2018 07:30:45
Agree Smeg - the same team that conceded those two goals put us 5 ahead. Sometimes you have to take the rough with the smooth and overall it was a masterclass for about 60 minutes where we were just unplayable. Lovren made one mistake, and then a tough call (but correct) on a penalty - such is life, we still have a three goal lead so get over it and let’s go finish the job.

Play like we know we can and score one goal away and it’ll be a massive battle for them.

3.) 25 Apr 2018 07:41:22
If you’d have told me back in September that we will have a 5-2 lead going into the 2nd leg of the champions league semi final then I would’ve have done an Irish jig in front of your very eyes. What a team. What a result!

4.) 25 Apr 2018 07:58:56
I can only see us scoring in Rome against that woeful defense. That said, if Roma do race into a 3 nil lead in the first half hour, that wouldn’t surprise me at all- nor would us still going through. I’m just hopeful we won’t start the game like we did at city or how we ended it against Roma. We allowed them to play themselves back into the match- if we go at them, I am fairly confident we’ll be heading to the final easily enough but for the love of god, keep Salah on until the eightieth min though.

5.) 25 Apr 2018 08:11:04
They haven't conceded at home in the cl this season.

As I said in a few posts. If we want the final we can just live off our first leg result we have to go there and score!

6.) 25 Apr 2018 08:23:03
I agree Smeg. its a very good result non the less.

However we will never win trophies with Lovern as our primary center back. He can play 5 good game, a good 75 mins and then lose his concentration to concede a goal like that.

If you want to fight for honors you cannot get away with this inconsistent defending. He has been given too many chances over the years.

We need to get a new CB to partner VVD next season.

{Ed001's Note - and yet Real Madrid have won multiple trophies with Ramos, who is just as bad but with the tendency to pick up ridiculous cards on top of it. It doesn't work like that, every player makes errors. Every team has inconsistent players. There are no perfect 11s. It just feels like Lovren is a scapegoat for a team failing.}

7.) 25 Apr 2018 08:59:32
Lovren is a much better RCB than a LCB IMO, and has played really well for quite a while now. I’m fairly comfortable with him playing next to VVD.

He misjudged one ball that led to a goal, you’ll be hard pressed to find a CB that never makes a mistake!

8.) 25 Apr 2018 09:14:02
And also makes a mistake that gets punished instantly. Yes that the cl final but that could of got so different. Offside for one. A bad touch. Hit the post. Keeper saves. Breaks his leg yano anything but no it went straight in.

It happens.

Can we just sit back and think for a second. After this season we have had. Mo in this form. Are we honest y not going to score There?

We just did them for 5. We score then it's tie over. Because they have to come out and we just score again.

9.) 25 Apr 2018 09:20:17
To me records like "havent lost since. " And "haven't conceded a goal since. " all they mean is that that team is a step away from that next loss or conceding the next goal. We are over thinking this. We have everything to punish Roma again, but we need to turn up mentally. I think the yellowwss on hendo and milner are potentially huge as it may play a factor on their mentality - that is a pending final and also lack of fit alternatives. So be interesting to see how that plays out.

10.) 25 Apr 2018 21:20:45
Unless iv missed something Faith I’m not sure yellows over subsequent semi’s can make player be suspended for the final? I’m pretty sure that changed right?



10 Mar 2018 01:00:36
Apparently Pogba is injured for tomorrow’s game, massive blow for Liverpool!

1.) 10 Mar 2018 10:41:25
Id rather him not playing. Him mctonimay and matic, allows him space and while he can be poor, he can be excellent, strong and with a good passing range. Who else can they bring in?

2.) 10 Mar 2018 10:43:54



29 Jan 2018 03:16:17
I'm a big Klopp fan and i think he should be here next season regardless of what happens this season but i'm getting a little tired of hearing how we will fill glaring holes in our squad next transfer window.

Last January we desperately needed a left back and a quick attacker, we got neither.

Last summer we got a left back and a quick attacker but we also needed a quality central midfielder and centre back, we got neither.

This January we have signed the central defender and have Keita coming next summer but we now need a creative midfielder to replace Coutinho and its glaringly obvious we need a new goalkeeper, again we will probably get neither.

I have no doubt that we will sign these players in the summer but what other positions will we need to fill? Right back? another CB? another left back? Will we sign these players or will we be told again that the players we want are not available?

I'm not advocating buying for the sake of it or massively overpaying for a player but surely there has to be a happy medium, why are we continually waiting for the next transfer window to fill the glaring holes in our squad?

1.) 29 Jan 2018 07:02:08
Perhaps we should go back to the good old days of buying for the sake of it when our primary targets aren't available?

2.) 29 Jan 2018 07:30:18
So we persisted and eventually got pur targets in the next window? I suppose we could just go and sign a Caulker-type for each position need.

3.) 29 Jan 2018 07:33:55
Seems like our main targets are never available. However, the second, third and sometimes even our fourth choices, over the past season or so, have worked out quite well. Most of them have been in their mid-20s as opposed to buying unproven potential as we did in previous seasons.

4.) 29 Jan 2018 07:43:09
Smeg, we could always sign a Markovic or Balotelli to satisfy you, can't we?

5.) 29 Jan 2018 09:47:27
I agree with Smeg. If you don’t address your weaknesses then they will be targeted by opponents.

If you can’t sign the requisite players then oh have to adapt your tactics to suit your squad. We should have been playing with a player sitting in front of the back 4 and not joining in with the press.



21 Sep 2017 02:42:59
Just to put Liverpool's poor form into context Real Madrid lost 1-0 to Real Betis tonight, Madrid had 27 shots and 60% possession. They have now failed to win all 3 of their league home games and are 7th in the league, 7 points off the top, Sevilla by the way are second.
Now I'm not trying to compare this Liverpool team to Real's or Klopp to Zidane but it does go to show that even the best team in the world can have a poor patch.
It was only a few weeks ago that we were thrashing Hoffenheim and Arsenal, now is the time to get behind the manager and players, there may be a time in the future to press the panic button but this isn't it. If you can't support them when they are losing don't support them when they are winning!

1.) 21 Sep 2017 06:02:48
Means nothing mate. Real will still walk to the 2nd position in la Liga.
But in epl we have 6 genuine teams fighting for top 4. So two will have to miss out and that is where dropping points at home to lesser opposition is going to hurt us. It is still very early in the season but early season problems show that we haven't learnt from past and are carrying on with same old story.
Last year we fought very hard for that 4th spot when we were on top till December.
We loose critical players and the team can't get an result. That is the biggest issue.

2.) 21 Sep 2017 06:57:06
It's a fair point Smeg Head, every single team in the world loses.
It's not what some are pointing out though is it?
Everyone who thinks normally understands that you're going to lose some games each season, I think many are just fed up of it being the same old story for us though.
Endless numbers of possession and long range, pointless, wasteful shots over the bar game after game from the same 3 or 4 players.
I'm not moaning personally at all by the way, just pointing out what I have read between the lines from the readable moans on here.
I myself want us to try to work our way in instead of shooting so much.
Long range shots 20 plus times each game is getting ridiculous.
It's statistically proven that far more goals are scored from inside the box, so get the ball into a player or players in there and we might score 1 out of 20 times for example, shooting from 30 yards might get you a goal every 50 times or maybe more (judging by our long range shooting recently) .

3.) 21 Sep 2017 07:05:55
I don't know why people bring " Support " into the context every time we loose or draw a game or someone points out a glaring mistake that has been happening week in week out! Who does not support the team here? You don't even understand the intention when a fan points out a mistake! Do you?

4.) 21 Sep 2017 08:01:33
Ak, you are right. But if you look at the table we are actually level with or ahead of Arsenal, Spurs and Everton.

So unless you are concerned that Newcastle are going to maintain their form, we are still well in the race. Chelsea in 3rd a 2 points ahead of us. We're only 5 points behind City and United. In 5 weeks time when everyone has played 10 games you'll have a better idea, but even then you can't accurately predict anything until about March next year.

No point losing sleep over 2 defeats.

5.) 21 Sep 2017 08:09:18
Why do you think players shoot from distance Mr Olish? It's very difficult to get into the 6 yard box when you have a China Wall infront of you. We play narrow. hardly uses width and the only one capable against Leicester was Robertson. Both Flanagan and AOX on the right were piss poor! How many crosse did they put in individually or combined?
Width becomes crusical when it is near difficult to penetrate through the middle. That's why Klopp wanted Mendy / Sessengon in the summer! There was hardly any threat from right side against Leicester!

I agree with the points you raised but then this is the reality and why Pep spend enormous money on full backs which is his biggest weapon against teams who cretes a china wall!

There is also another issue that comes with offensive full backs as they leaves acres of spaces behind them for someone to exploit which again cause us dearly!

6.) 21 Sep 2017 08:29:25
When was our last long range goal WCD?
Are most of our goals long range?
What percentage of our goals come from 25 to 30 yards out?
I'm talking about the 18 yard box not 6 yard.
We don't have target men, so we should work our way in with quick passes, not too many crosses imo.
Have you actually watched City's full backs in the last 18 months mate?
The practically play as extra centrally based midfielders so that their actual midfielders can push forward and get numbers into the box when attacking, unless this tactic has changed recently.
This is one of Pep's principles of their attack.
Look at their second goal against us, they far outnumbered us in the box, why was that?
They overwhelmed us on a number of occasions in attack, we were chasing shadows at times and we can't blame the red card for all of it much as we'd probably like to.

7.) 21 Sep 2017 08:18:03
Harry pointing it out and offering up a constructive solution is fine.

It isn't constructive outside of the transfer window to bleat on and on about how Klopp should've signed a centre back, or how all our defenders are apparently useless, or that Klopp should throw his system out the window and start over. Another 3 years of transition would please you and the rest of the boo boys maybe?

Point out mistakes, sure. Ed001 does that after every game in his review. But that is it. That is the end of it. You don't see him banging on repeatedly about things without at least offering a solution or without it being justified.

You just slag all our players off and should your brown nose up the backside of other teams players.

Your be loved Modric, Casemeiro, Isco and Kroos are getting battered right now by the way. Zidane out? Or maybe they should replace the best midfield in Europe because they've had a few bad games.

8.) 21 Sep 2017 08:58:31
Unless we score early against teams that come to Anfield, sit deep and soak up the pressure, we struggle and end up playing one dimensional football, leading to shots outside the box when we run out of ideas.

Some times I feel we need to mix it up a bit, far to often players cut inside when there could be a better option wide, Burnley was the perfect example. Robertson found himself in acres of space at times but was ignored and the play was channelled through the middle. Far too often we end up running into a brick wall. If we can get the ball wide every now and then it stretches the opposition's back line creating space. You could see the problems Robertson caused Leicester in the first half with those balls whipped in, we really should have scored, do this more often from both flanks and we might just convert a few.

I'd like to see more incisive and forward passing as apposed to moving the ball from side to side, defenders hate players runnng at them. We've got the players to do it and I think when Lallana is back it will gives us an extra edge.

We've got to start making our chances count though.

9.) 21 Sep 2017 09:17:19
Hey Drogie,
I agree with your post mate.
I'm not totally opposed to crosses so long as it's not every single time we go forward as what's currently happening with long range shots (as you yourself mentioned mixing it up) .
And whipping them in is definitely the only way to go mostly, as we don't compete so well in the air as we know.

10.) 21 Sep 2017 09:23:35
You might be right Olish but I don't know any other way to break the china wall other than using the width with full back hitting the byline on regular basis or usage or Corners and Set pieces to nick one in again where we are Pisa poor.
Coutinho tries as much as he could but he is quickly tackled / marked out by players in numbers. It was his vision that picked Robertson on regular basis against Leicester in the first half.

I agree with Drogie, We got to score that first goal quickly to take the pressure out and out that to the opposition.

11.) 21 Sep 2017 09:33:54

You are so wrong. Posters have been pointing out on our defsne ever since the window opened and you along with the super aliens quickly dismissed it with " Window hasn't opened yet " claims. Now they want the audience to wait till Jan or summer. LOL! The point is your team doesn't want to hear anything that is different to their views. And you put all of them into negative supporter bin.

FYI, Ron is also asking the same questions, I see none having an issue there 😄😄 He wants the system to be tweaked.

12.) 21 Sep 2017 09:35:45
Quick passing, interchanging and quick movement.
Nothing wrong with some whipped crosses and even some long range shots when it's called for, just not every single time lol.

13.) 21 Sep 2017 09:47:56
Spot on, Smeg and Mk. Real have had a pathetic start to the season so is Zidane on the brink as well? At RM, coming second is failure so those saying that RM will stroll to the 2nd position in the Liga is one thing BUT managers have been fired for that at RM before. But he's not getting fired any time soon.

People may have a right to be frustrated about our situation and that is fair BUT the constant moaning, false arguments and pathetic support for our rivals teams and their players as a way of trashing ours, is unacceptable and unproductive. The season is 5 games old in the PL. FIVE GAMES! Yet guys on here are losing their minds over our form which tho worrisome, is nothing more than a sticky patch that comes during every season. Now, the doom and gloomers are out projecting that "we will not make top 4", "Klopp out", "Klopp will win nothing", blah, blah, blah. It is tiring and boring and the usual suspects need to calm down and stop polluting these boards with such unproductive drivel.

Constructive criticism, solutions, calm minds, and perspective is what we need right now. The TW is also over and we all know that Klopp wanted VVD and would not settle on a stop gap as he did that with Matip already so doing that again would be dumb, like it or not. We need to stick together and stay positive cos we can only come out of this if we always remembers what unites us, the success of LFC. That is the bottom line. Keep the faith, lads!

14.) 21 Sep 2017 09:51:44
Ron has suggested that we need a dedicated defensive midfielder. He doesn't constantly bag his own players and brown nose players at other clubs. He doesn't have a negative rhetoric about Klopp or anyone associated with the club. He doesn't repeat himself every 15 minutes in some sort of smear campaign like you do.

He has an opinion. He offers a solution. He only beings it up in relevant discussion.

That is where you need to change the way you talk if you ever want people to take your posts seriously. You don't even come across as a Liverpool fan at times. I personally believe your heart is in the right place and you are misunderstood. It's gone on far too long to be trolling. But some of your posts are genuinely at that level mate.

15.) 21 Sep 2017 09:58:48
Quick passing is the backbone of this system but it is not possible everytime. Hendeson takes an hour to bring the ball out from the back as he has no confidence or ability to spray some forward pass. His first pass is to CB and Full back and by then the opposition has already shaped themselves nicely! If anything it is Coutinho who tries to bring people into the game with his vision picking players and switching flanks.

You could also score goals through corners and set pieces!

16.) 21 Sep 2017 10:03:07
Also, i get the impression that you think i believe our defence is good enough?

I don't. Mignolet is a terrible keeper. We've given him 5 years to prove us wrong. But I'm not going to constantly bring that up on every thread. I want Ward as number 1. I suggested that 2 years ago before we even signed Karius.

I don't think Arnold and Gomez are good enough yet as right back options for a title winning team either. However they are both exceptional for their age and i am prepared to permit them the odd error if it means we end up with a better player in the future.

Lovren, Klavan and Matip all have issues. Be it lack of pace, laziness, lack of focus, lack of communication etc. But they are what we have until January so what is the point in constantly bringing it up that we should have signed a centre back? We tried. There is also no need to go overboard on the criticism and turn it personal. Klopp wanted Van Dijk, so he clearly is planning on making a change here. Just need to have patience.

Moreno and Robertson i am actually happy with. I think it is a decent little competition for first team football.

On defensive midfield, Henderson was first tried there at the start of last season and was excellent. Then this heel injury showed up and he missed half the season. This year his heel injury looks a bit better, but still seems to be niggling. I am prepared to give him a chance to get fit and learn the role which he technically only has half a season of experience in, before i jump on his back and start with the "not LFC standard" crap. If his heel doesn't clear up and he doesn't master the position, then i will expect a replacement or Gini Wijnaldum to get a chance to stake a claim there.

You are mad if you think i can't see we have issues at the back. I just think a lot of peoples arguments are too harsh, have absolutely no recommended solutions, and are simply just abusive. You see what i did? I made my point without coming across as a whinging child. And i won't post the same thing again in half an hour.

17.) 21 Sep 2017 10:06:12
MK, if that post was for Harry then you are spot on, my friend. If an LFC fan addresses our manager as "your" manager and "your" players, what other evidence do you need?

18.) 21 Sep 2017 10:08:28
Superb post Bingo.

19.) 21 Sep 2017 10:17:45
Fair play MK! You win the round 👍👍👍keep up! I will try not reply or post under your thread! That's a word!

20.) 21 Sep 2017 10:31:34
WCD - I'm not a fan of Henderson myself at the moment but I'll support him while he's in our red.
He reminds me of Sturridge at the moment and Matip, cruising through matches and not playing to his strengths nor does it seem to bother him as he just keeps on being picked.
I agree with your points about both Henderson and Coutinho.
My simple point is, we need to mix it up in attack.
We're too easy to read tactically - pack your defence and watch long range shots sail over the bar every 3 or 4 minutes.
Quick passing is a part of our game absolutely, but I rarely see it happen within the 18 yard box as all our players are spread outside of it (which was why I cried out for an out and out Striker the other day to stay in there - say no more on that one) .

21.) 21 Sep 2017 10:32:01
It was meant for Harry. I loved your reply.

By the way Harry, i do love a debate so by all means continue to post replies to me. I don't want you to stop. Just want you to be less polarised and extreme.

22.) 21 Sep 2017 10:44:10
There is serious textual tension going here between you lads, get a room or maybe a camper van I dunno?!

23.) 21 Sep 2017 11:08:47

There is a big difference between having an opinion and support. Waro supports the club ( never a doubt ) But he has a poor opinion on FSG!
If you ask me an opinion on a player / Perfromance / Games, I could be as honest as I am.
For Ex! My opinion on AOC before we signed him and after we signed him till today is the SAME! It doesn't change on the color of the shirt! I am sorry I am not that kind of model supporter.

I am sorry Adam, I will have nothing new for you.

24.) 21 Sep 2017 12:04:24
Not sure if I'm taking you up wrong.
Is it fair to say then that you won't support players you don't rate even if they're playing for Liverpool?
Like I always say, I have no issues with criticism or being angry with certain players/ performances/ tactics etc.
My only issue is when a poster constantly has a go at these things but offers no ideas themselves on how they'd handle it/ fix it.
Of course some people just come here to rant and let off steam, that's fine as I'll skip the post unless it addresses me personally (bugs me if it's a rant while addressing me and offering no antidote though - what is the point of these types of posts unless you're 11 years old? ) .
That doesn't allow discussion/ debate or for anyone to offer their side of it ya know?!
That's what I want to see personally (people offering opinions/ rants/ antidotes etc. ) as I love talking footy, when I win the argument I enjoy getting their apology (joking) .
By the way, none of that is targeting you or anyone in particular, it's just a general thing mate as you're just as entitled to your opinion as the next person.
I do however hope that you'd at least support your own team's players regardless of what you think of them as a player.
If they try for Liverpool, no matter how terrible they can be, they'll always have my support.
If I see them slacking on a regular basis (Balotelli), I want them gone.




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29 Jan 2019 17:34:43
Wow, a couple of injuries and this site suddenly turns in an episode of Dad's Army. Don't panic, don't panic!



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16 Jan 2019 04:00:33
A 16 year old cannot have a natural position, he’s 16!



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12 Jan 2019 20:07:41
We already have a world class defender in Van Dijk and a potential world class defender in Gomez, why would we spend a fortune on a player to sit on the bench?




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Because he has a contract stoneage, I don’t understand why that’s difficult to comprehend.



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10 Mar 2019 19:18:09
Hopefully Liverpool win the league again before Ron’s apocalypse!



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10 Mar 2019 16:57:07
Soybeans was a tasty midfielder.

{Ed025's Note - and got the pulses running..



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08 Mar 2019 17:26:31
Apparently it was just a precaution, no point in taking any risks.



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07 Mar 2019 23:39:44
mmm leeks!