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18 Aug 2017 15:54:54
According to Paul Joyce Liverpool have rejected a £118 million bid for Coutinho.

Smeg Head

1.) 18 Aug 2017 16:10:52
Stupid move by the club.


2.) 18 Aug 2017 16:14:15
Good the owners are passing a message to the rest of the squad and to the other teams that Liverpool cannot be forced into doing anything they don't want to either by a player or another club. We have our price they either pay it and take him or he stays where he is and in a world cup year we 'll see if he is willing to risk his place in the Brazil team.

{Ed002's Note - This is nothing to do with the owners, and nobody is listening to any messages. It is like some sort of joke reading these posts.}


3.) 18 Aug 2017 16:15:45
Holding our for 135 milll I've heard. How true that is though i don't know.


4.) 18 Aug 2017 16:16:44
Why if a) they want to keep the player or b) they think this under values the player?


5.) 18 Aug 2017 16:17:19
Yeah really stupid move keeping your best player.


6.) 18 Aug 2017 16:17:40
Hopefully they get the hint and we get one of season out of him!


7.) 18 Aug 2017 16:33:10
A 'statement of intent' or another 'smokescreen' lol.


8.) 18 Aug 2017 16:34:50
100 odd million would be a lot to spend on an unnecessary message don't you think? People need to get out of the tabloid way of thinking. The acceptance or rejection of an offer is nothing to do with any other clubs or players. We don't have time for an adequate replacement to come in so unless a ridiculous offer comes in, it won't happen. It's the same with RBL - don't need to sell, won't sell, and so the list goes on.


9.) 18 Aug 2017 16:51:11
If there was a ready made replacement available, I would agree that it was stupid. Right now there is no one who fills the void he would leave. Plus I'm glad we're not allowing Barcelona to bullying us into selling.


10.) 18 Aug 2017 17:04:07
Yeah, real stupid move keeping a player that doesn't want to stay Halifax.


11.) 18 Aug 2017 17:34:40
"so unless a ridiculous offer comes in, it won't happen" is ONE HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN MILLION POUNDS not ridiculous enough for a man that cost £8m and wants to leave.


12.) 18 Aug 2017 17:42:36
Apparently made up of a lot of add ons.


13.) 18 Aug 2017 18:37:09
What good is another £118m to spend when we can't spend the money we already have. Lack of cash is not our problem, lack of attainable first team players to improve our team is. Selling our best player won't help this either.


14.) 18 Aug 2017 19:00:32
Absolutely nailed on 5G.


15.) 18 Aug 2017 19:01:37
Amen to that 5 gold, if we can't use the money to improve thw squad then its useless. We lose our beat player and can't replace him but we are a few million quid better off? No thanks.


16.) 18 Aug 2017 19:12:00
You need to forget about how much he cost. By that definition Harry Kane isn't worth anywhere near what it would cost to buy him. Or Dele Alli etc etc. It's about what he is worth now to us as a club and 114million isn't ridiculous or over the top for one of the worlds best, most creative players in his position. Who could we go and get for that amount? Think before you get crazy about zeros.


17.) 18 Aug 2017 19:16:30
People keep saying Barcelona are comi g after our best player, there after coutinho not mane guys.


18.) 18 Aug 2017 19:19:01
THE most sense of read on here in a long time 5 Gold Stars. Well said sir.


19.) 18 Aug 2017 19:22:35
I think we'd cope ok without him. We've managed before. What would we get out of him if we deny him his move?


20.) 18 Aug 2017 19:34:04
Think its a good message from the board to the fans that their not all about profit. also, how much of this is just Barcelona using transfer publicity to cover their current gradual decline from being Europe's no.1?


21.) 18 Aug 2017 19:50:36
Its not that we can't buy players with the money we have, its that the clubs don't want to sell. We could still spend money needlessly on secondary targets.
You all need to realise that even without Coutinho or Sturridge we have still scored goals, we need a defense, and better organisation in defense.
As Macca said, it is entirely possible that we are waiting for confirmation of CL qualification before making our moves.


22.) 18 Aug 2017 20:01:23
Well I am tied on this, I think if they offer £118 mil straight with no add ons, I would take it. BUT not at this time in the window!
Basically easy, and inferred by Eds - teams panic buying pay more at this stage. All will know we have £118 mil "in the bank" and anyone we want will be £20mil more! Exactly the same as what we see with Barcelona having £200mil "in the bank"
It's random time!


23.) 18 Aug 2017 20:10:29
If we accept s 130 million offer we could nab deli Ali. Spurs are always willing to do business if the price is right.


24.) 18 Aug 2017 20:39:58
If the report i just read is correct no wonder they turned it down. 82.1 mil guaranteed the rest in clauses, which range from goals scored, winning La Liga, winning Champs league and winning Ballon d'Or.


25.) 18 Aug 2017 16:25:31
If its nothin too do wid owners ed whos it too do with, we all going dullalley wid this transfer window an this a gossip site so we jus tryin too grasp some optimism.


26.) 18 Aug 2017 16:33:40
Eds, sorry if I'm a bit slow but, what do you mean by it has nothing to do with our owners?


27.) 18 Aug 2017 16:54:47
Ed002 you say it's got nothing to do with the owners? Am I reading that wrong? If the club have turned down a new offer or if they accept it, it's got everything to do with owners surely?

Thanks.


28.) 18 Aug 2017 22:11:52
Does that figure include the statue?


29.) 18 Aug 2017 23:01:16
The owners don't run the club, they own it.


30.) 19 Aug 2017 00:39:01
Supposedly the offer is for 80 Million with the remaining 36 Million as add-ons. And the 80 Million is not to be paid up front; maybe as much as over five years. So what's the point? Sell Coutinho and buy VVD or Kieta for almost the same amount? No wonder it got rejected immediately.


31.) 19 Aug 2017 03:37:12
Yup 82.1 upfront and the rest is is on performance related like Cout becoming a Good, save the world with Spiderman and become a member of the intergalactic peace keeper.


32.) 19 Aug 2017 07:07:28
The owners employ the people who run the club.


33.) 19 Aug 2017 07:54:00
If the terms really are that level then well done the club for turning it down. If they feel has to be over 100m then that has to be what the club will get. When is irrelevant to an extent (I would think spread payments are quite useful for accounting and revenue purposes for most clubs), that it is money that will be paid is the issue.

Still less laughable clauses quoted there than Palace's initial Benteke bid including a chunk being reliant on them qualifying for ECL.


34.) 19 Aug 2017 09:44:03
Tbh just my opinion, couts should have thought about the potential of Barcelona when signing a 5 year deal with no release clause, if rumours are true then Barcelona have been sniffing for over a year or so, surely he or his agent would have knew this,

Fair play to Liverpool for sticking to there guns, he might want to ask his agent a few questions tho,

Hopefully if he is here in September this can all get put behind and stick together,

(Thoughts and prayers are with the people in Barcelona and all the friends and families of the injured and the sadly lost)

{Ed001's Note - Barca were not sniffing around him, he was sniffing around them. I believe his choice to sign the new contract was based on a belief that they would not come in for him for at least a year, if at all.}


35.) 19 Aug 2017 18:26:41
Great result today 1st off, I am fascinated too see wat this guys attitude is like if we don't sell him, jus going off wat paul joyces reported that he said phil would never play for us again or wear the shirt he could actually redeem him self by knuckling down giving us one season then we can sell him, he never asked for a clause in his contract so he should show respect, I know players these days have no loyalty especially those from south america an europe but this is showing him in a bad light he could leave on good terms from the club that has made him a world star and a 1st teamer for brazil he is really comin into his own as a world class talent an we could so do with him.


36.) 19 Aug 2017 21:26:09
Ed 001.if what your saying is true about couts sniffing around Barcelona before signing his contract, then it seems he has gambled and lost, I can understand why he'd wanna go, but he must have realised at the time this could be a possible outcome. can't have it both ways.

{Ed002's Note - I have been explaining this to you for more than a year.}


37.) 20 Aug 2017 09:32:34
Mane is our best player.


38.) 20 Aug 2017 22:41:29
The first reply to op just hit 100 down votes 😂 haven't seen that for a long time xD.


39.) 21 Aug 2017 03:32:15
I wouldn't have sold neither. LFC say Not For Sale, at a terrible time in the window, after selling Neymar, and build an offer at 80m that could potentially reach 118m. Not to mention some paid over 5 years. And (if rumours are true) give LFC a deadline to reconsider? hahaha. Did the Madrid drumming knock ya senseless?


 

 

 

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21 Sep 2017 02:42:59
Just to put Liverpool's poor form into context Real Madrid lost 1-0 to Real Betis tonight, Madrid had 27 shots and 60% possession. They have now failed to win all 3 of their league home games and are 7th in the league, 7 points off the top, Sevilla by the way are second.
Now I'm not trying to compare this Liverpool team to Real's or Klopp to Zidane but it does go to show that even the best team in the world can have a poor patch.
It was only a few weeks ago that we were thrashing Hoffenheim and Arsenal, now is the time to get behind the manager and players, there may be a time in the future to press the panic button but this isn't it. If you can't support them when they are losing don't support them when they are winning!

Smeg Head

1.) 21 Sep 2017 06:02:48
Means nothing mate. Real will still walk to the 2nd position in la Liga.
But in epl we have 6 genuine teams fighting for top 4. So two will have to miss out and that is where dropping points at home to lesser opposition is going to hurt us. It is still very early in the season but early season problems show that we haven't learnt from past and are carrying on with same old story.
Last year we fought very hard for that 4th spot when we were on top till December.
We loose critical players and the team can't get an result. That is the biggest issue.


2.) 21 Sep 2017 06:57:06
It's a fair point Smeg Head, every single team in the world loses.
It's not what some are pointing out though is it?
Everyone who thinks normally understands that you're going to lose some games each season, I think many are just fed up of it being the same old story for us though.
Endless numbers of possession and long range, pointless, wasteful shots over the bar game after game from the same 3 or 4 players.
I'm not moaning personally at all by the way, just pointing out what I have read between the lines from the readable moans on here.
I myself want us to try to work our way in instead of shooting so much.
Long range shots 20 plus times each game is getting ridiculous.
It's statistically proven that far more goals are scored from inside the box, so get the ball into a player or players in there and we might score 1 out of 20 times for example, shooting from 30 yards might get you a goal every 50 times or maybe more (judging by our long range shooting recently) .


3.) 21 Sep 2017 07:05:55
I don't know why people bring " Support " into the context every time we loose or draw a game or someone points out a glaring mistake that has been happening week in week out! Who does not support the team here? You don't even understand the intention when a fan points out a mistake! Do you?


4.) 21 Sep 2017 08:01:33
Ak, you are right. But if you look at the table we are actually level with or ahead of Arsenal, Spurs and Everton.

So unless you are concerned that Newcastle are going to maintain their form, we are still well in the race. Chelsea in 3rd a 2 points ahead of us. We're only 5 points behind City and United. In 5 weeks time when everyone has played 10 games you'll have a better idea, but even then you can't accurately predict anything until about March next year.

No point losing sleep over 2 defeats.


5.) 21 Sep 2017 08:09:18
Why do you think players shoot from distance Mr Olish? It's very difficult to get into the 6 yard box when you have a China Wall infront of you. We play narrow. hardly uses width and the only one capable against Leicester was Robertson. Both Flanagan and AOX on the right were piss poor! How many crosse did they put in individually or combined?
Width becomes crusical when it is near difficult to penetrate through the middle. That's why Klopp wanted Mendy / Sessengon in the summer! There was hardly any threat from right side against Leicester!

I agree with the points you raised but then this is the reality and why Pep spend enormous money on full backs which is his biggest weapon against teams who cretes a china wall!

There is also another issue that comes with offensive full backs as they leaves acres of spaces behind them for someone to exploit which again cause us dearly!


6.) 21 Sep 2017 08:29:25
When was our last long range goal WCD?
Are most of our goals long range?
What percentage of our goals come from 25 to 30 yards out?
I'm talking about the 18 yard box not 6 yard.
We don't have target men, so we should work our way in with quick passes, not too many crosses imo.
Have you actually watched City's full backs in the last 18 months mate?
The practically play as extra centrally based midfielders so that their actual midfielders can push forward and get numbers into the box when attacking, unless this tactic has changed recently.
This is one of Pep's principles of their attack.
Look at their second goal against us, they far outnumbered us in the box, why was that?
They overwhelmed us on a number of occasions in attack, we were chasing shadows at times and we can't blame the red card for all of it much as we'd probably like to.


7.) 21 Sep 2017 08:18:03
Harry pointing it out and offering up a constructive solution is fine.

It isn't constructive outside of the transfer window to bleat on and on about how Klopp should've signed a centre back, or how all our defenders are apparently useless, or that Klopp should throw his system out the window and start over. Another 3 years of transition would please you and the rest of the boo boys maybe?

Point out mistakes, sure. Ed001 does that after every game in his review. But that is it. That is the end of it. You don't see him banging on repeatedly about things without at least offering a solution or without it being justified.

You just slag all our players off and should your brown nose up the backside of other teams players.

Your be loved Modric, Casemeiro, Isco and Kroos are getting battered right now by the way. Zidane out? Or maybe they should replace the best midfield in Europe because they've had a few bad games.


8.) 21 Sep 2017 08:58:31
Unless we score early against teams that come to Anfield, sit deep and soak up the pressure, we struggle and end up playing one dimensional football, leading to shots outside the box when we run out of ideas.

Some times I feel we need to mix it up a bit, far to often players cut inside when there could be a better option wide, Burnley was the perfect example. Robertson found himself in acres of space at times but was ignored and the play was channelled through the middle. Far too often we end up running into a brick wall. If we can get the ball wide every now and then it stretches the opposition's back line creating space. You could see the problems Robertson caused Leicester in the first half with those balls whipped in, we really should have scored, do this more often from both flanks and we might just convert a few.

I'd like to see more incisive and forward passing as apposed to moving the ball from side to side, defenders hate players runnng at them. We've got the players to do it and I think when Lallana is back it will gives us an extra edge.

We've got to start making our chances count though.


9.) 21 Sep 2017 09:17:19
Hey Drogie,
I agree with your post mate.
I'm not totally opposed to crosses so long as it's not every single time we go forward as what's currently happening with long range shots (as you yourself mentioned mixing it up) .
And whipping them in is definitely the only way to go mostly, as we don't compete so well in the air as we know.


10.) 21 Sep 2017 09:23:35
You might be right Olish but I don't know any other way to break the china wall other than using the width with full back hitting the byline on regular basis or usage or Corners and Set pieces to nick one in again where we are Pisa poor.
Coutinho tries as much as he could but he is quickly tackled / marked out by players in numbers. It was his vision that picked Robertson on regular basis against Leicester in the first half.

I agree with Drogie, We got to score that first goal quickly to take the pressure out and out that to the opposition.


11.) 21 Sep 2017 09:33:54
MKS

You are so wrong. Posters have been pointing out on our defsne ever since the window opened and you along with the super aliens quickly dismissed it with " Window hasn't opened yet " claims. Now they want the audience to wait till Jan or summer. LOL! The point is your team doesn't want to hear anything that is different to their views. And you put all of them into negative supporter bin.

FYI, Ron is also asking the same questions, I see none having an issue there 😄😄 He wants the system to be tweaked.


12.) 21 Sep 2017 09:35:45
Quick passing, interchanging and quick movement.
Nothing wrong with some whipped crosses and even some long range shots when it's called for, just not every single time lol.


13.) 21 Sep 2017 09:47:56
Spot on, Smeg and Mk. Real have had a pathetic start to the season so is Zidane on the brink as well? At RM, coming second is failure so those saying that RM will stroll to the 2nd position in the Liga is one thing BUT managers have been fired for that at RM before. But he's not getting fired any time soon.

People may have a right to be frustrated about our situation and that is fair BUT the constant moaning, false arguments and pathetic support for our rivals teams and their players as a way of trashing ours, is unacceptable and unproductive. The season is 5 games old in the PL. FIVE GAMES! Yet guys on here are losing their minds over our form which tho worrisome, is nothing more than a sticky patch that comes during every season. Now, the doom and gloomers are out projecting that "we will not make top 4", "Klopp out", "Klopp will win nothing", blah, blah, blah. It is tiring and boring and the usual suspects need to calm down and stop polluting these boards with such unproductive drivel.

Constructive criticism, solutions, calm minds, and perspective is what we need right now. The TW is also over and we all know that Klopp wanted VVD and would not settle on a stop gap as he did that with Matip already so doing that again would be dumb, like it or not. We need to stick together and stay positive cos we can only come out of this if we always remembers what unites us, the success of LFC. That is the bottom line. Keep the faith, lads!


14.) 21 Sep 2017 09:51:44
Ron has suggested that we need a dedicated defensive midfielder. He doesn't constantly bag his own players and brown nose players at other clubs. He doesn't have a negative rhetoric about Klopp or anyone associated with the club. He doesn't repeat himself every 15 minutes in some sort of smear campaign like you do.

He has an opinion. He offers a solution. He only beings it up in relevant discussion.

That is where you need to change the way you talk if you ever want people to take your posts seriously. You don't even come across as a Liverpool fan at times. I personally believe your heart is in the right place and you are misunderstood. It's gone on far too long to be trolling. But some of your posts are genuinely at that level mate.


15.) 21 Sep 2017 09:58:48
Quick passing is the backbone of this system but it is not possible everytime. Hendeson takes an hour to bring the ball out from the back as he has no confidence or ability to spray some forward pass. His first pass is to CB and Full back and by then the opposition has already shaped themselves nicely! If anything it is Coutinho who tries to bring people into the game with his vision picking players and switching flanks.

You could also score goals through corners and set pieces!


16.) 21 Sep 2017 10:03:07
Also, i get the impression that you think i believe our defence is good enough?

I don't. Mignolet is a terrible keeper. We've given him 5 years to prove us wrong. But I'm not going to constantly bring that up on every thread. I want Ward as number 1. I suggested that 2 years ago before we even signed Karius.

I don't think Arnold and Gomez are good enough yet as right back options for a title winning team either. However they are both exceptional for their age and i am prepared to permit them the odd error if it means we end up with a better player in the future.

Lovren, Klavan and Matip all have issues. Be it lack of pace, laziness, lack of focus, lack of communication etc. But they are what we have until January so what is the point in constantly bringing it up that we should have signed a centre back? We tried. There is also no need to go overboard on the criticism and turn it personal. Klopp wanted Van Dijk, so he clearly is planning on making a change here. Just need to have patience.

Moreno and Robertson i am actually happy with. I think it is a decent little competition for first team football.

On defensive midfield, Henderson was first tried there at the start of last season and was excellent. Then this heel injury showed up and he missed half the season. This year his heel injury looks a bit better, but still seems to be niggling. I am prepared to give him a chance to get fit and learn the role which he technically only has half a season of experience in, before i jump on his back and start with the "not LFC standard" crap. If his heel doesn't clear up and he doesn't master the position, then i will expect a replacement or Gini Wijnaldum to get a chance to stake a claim there.

You are mad if you think i can't see we have issues at the back. I just think a lot of peoples arguments are too harsh, have absolutely no recommended solutions, and are simply just abusive. You see what i did? I made my point without coming across as a whinging child. And i won't post the same thing again in half an hour.


17.) 21 Sep 2017 10:06:12
MK, if that post was for Harry then you are spot on, my friend. If an LFC fan addresses our manager as "your" manager and "your" players, what other evidence do you need?


18.) 21 Sep 2017 10:08:28
Superb post Bingo.


19.) 21 Sep 2017 10:17:45
Fair play MK! You win the round 👍👍👍keep up! I will try not reply or post under your thread! That's a word!


20.) 21 Sep 2017 10:31:34
WCD - I'm not a fan of Henderson myself at the moment but I'll support him while he's in our red.
He reminds me of Sturridge at the moment and Matip, cruising through matches and not playing to his strengths nor does it seem to bother him as he just keeps on being picked.
I agree with your points about both Henderson and Coutinho.
My simple point is, we need to mix it up in attack.
We're too easy to read tactically - pack your defence and watch long range shots sail over the bar every 3 or 4 minutes.
Quick passing is a part of our game absolutely, but I rarely see it happen within the 18 yard box as all our players are spread outside of it (which was why I cried out for an out and out Striker the other day to stay in there - say no more on that one) .


21.) 21 Sep 2017 10:32:01
It was meant for Harry. I loved your reply.

By the way Harry, i do love a debate so by all means continue to post replies to me. I don't want you to stop. Just want you to be less polarised and extreme.


22.) 21 Sep 2017 10:44:10
There is serious textual tension going here between you lads, get a room or maybe a camper van I dunno?!


23.) 21 Sep 2017 11:08:47
Olrish

There is a big difference between having an opinion and support. Waro supports the club ( never a doubt ) But he has a poor opinion on FSG!
If you ask me an opinion on a player / Perfromance / Games, I could be as honest as I am.
For Ex! My opinion on AOC before we signed him and after we signed him till today is the SAME! It doesn't change on the color of the shirt! I am sorry I am not that kind of model supporter.

MK
I am sorry Adam, I will have nothing new for you.


24.) 21 Sep 2017 12:04:24
Not sure if I'm taking you up wrong.
Is it fair to say then that you won't support players you don't rate even if they're playing for Liverpool?
Like I always say, I have no issues with criticism or being angry with certain players/ performances/ tactics etc.
My only issue is when a poster constantly has a go at these things but offers no ideas themselves on how they'd handle it/ fix it.
Of course some people just come here to rant and let off steam, that's fine as I'll skip the post unless it addresses me personally (bugs me if it's a rant while addressing me and offering no antidote though - what is the point of these types of posts unless you're 11 years old? ) .
That doesn't allow discussion/ debate or for anyone to offer their side of it ya know?!
That's what I want to see personally (people offering opinions/ rants/ antidotes etc. ) as I love talking footy, when I win the argument I enjoy getting their apology (joking) .
By the way, none of that is targeting you or anyone in particular, it's just a general thing mate as you're just as entitled to your opinion as the next person.
I do however hope that you'd at least support your own team's players regardless of what you think of them as a player.
If they try for Liverpool, no matter how terrible they can be, they'll always have my support.
If I see them slacking on a regular basis (Balotelli), I want them gone.


 

 

14 Sep 2017 00:19:11
So the 4th best team in England plays the 4th best team in Spain and it's a draw, what a disaster. Is this really what modern football has become? Every game Liverpool don't win there are inquests and people questioning the manager, it's pathetic. We are 7 games into the season and we've lost 1 game. Support!?! Some of you don't know the meaning of the word!

Smeg Head

{Ed001's Note - what's this? A sensible post? Surely not!}


1.) 14 Sep 2017 04:59:55
Ed this poster must be banned immediately. Who is he to write logical post's on this site😁.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure it won't happen again, I am not sure it has ever happened before.}


2.) 14 Sep 2017 06:04:26
We have conceded 13 goals in 7 games which is an excellent stat! Add that into your positive list!

{Ed001's Note - how many defeats in those games Harry?}


3.) 14 Sep 2017 06:31:55
Cmon Ed01, How many drop points already mate? Are you seriously happy the way it's going? I am NOT! And some people are just blind on this page! I can tell you we ll concede 2 more against Burnley!

{Ed001's Note - give it a rest Harry, everything is knee jerk with you. You would have had Paisley sacked when he came in if you had been around. Last season you had Conte as a flop at this point. Just try and look at the bigger picture, it is early doors, but we are only 3 points off the top, I do not see why you lot are such a bunch of moaning whinging brats. You constantly make pronouncements of fact about guesses. It is just ridiculous. You need to calm down.}


4.) 14 Sep 2017 08:23:53
Ed, why are you responding to a non-LFC fan? Harry says he is a "football fan" (what ever the heck that means) and only posts on here and not on other clubs' sites allegedly.

No one cares what a "football fan" has to say esp. one who seems to change his tune the way my wife changes her shoes (and she has plenty to choose from) .

Non LFC fans are always welcome here BUT if you are not an LFC fan and all you do is bash us when you come on here, then keep those posts to yourself and allow the TRUE LFC fans debate the issues of our club.

{Ed001's Note - what is wrong with being a football fan?}


5.) 14 Sep 2017 12:46:23
There is nothing wrong with it, Ed. We are all football fans in the end as many of us watch football in general, not just LFC football. What I don't like is when a "football fan" comes on here and starts trashing our team, manager and club spouting the crap that you just responded to, whereas he has no affiliation to us or to other teams "allegedly", is out of order. I can't even banter with him cos "allegedly, he does not support any team nor post on other teams' fan sites. That is just nonsense.

I can take rival fans's banter cos we can go back and forth all in fun. But not from someone who does not have our best interest at heart and only cares about being right and being contrarian, bashing Klopp and and our boys every time he gets. You may be fine with that but I certainly, am not. We are a family and WE are the only ones who get to bash our family members. "Football fans" should stay out of it or get slated as well. That's my take.


 

 

16 Aug 2017 02:41:21
Random name but I'd be interested to know what people think of Geoffrey Kondogbia, he's had a terrible time at Inter but he was brilliant for Monaco prior to that. He's still only 24 so he still has time to develop. Maybe tempt Inter with a year loan with an option to buy?

Smeg Head

1.) 16 Aug 2017 04:41:46
If we want own goals yeah he is the first in my list!


2.) 16 Aug 2017 04:45:14
Terrible attitude and work ethic. No thanks.


3.) 16 Aug 2017 06:51:30
that was some own goal though!


4.) 16 Aug 2017 10:45:53
Can is way better than him.


 

 

07 Aug 2017 01:25:32
It's unbelievable how many people on this site read a rumour and completely lose their minds. Wait until something actually happens before you start crying about it. Don't get me wrong if Coutinho leaves and isn't properly replaced I'll be furious but until that happens I will reserve judgment. Those people saying this season is already over are a complete embarrassment, you sound like absolute babies. I'm not even convinced you are Liverpool supporters but if you are maybe you should support another team.

Smeg Head

 

 

05 Aug 2017 07:31:46
There seems to be a lot of hysteria regarding Coutinho potentially being sold, don't get me wrong I don't want him to go but as brilliant as he can be he is still massively inconsistent and can vanish for weeks at a time. If he were to go it would be for a ridiculous price and as long as that money was reinvested into the squad I wouldn't have a problem with it. Ultimately I don't think Coutinho would be sold without Klopp's consent, we have a world class manager it's about time we started trusting his judgement.

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1.) 05 Aug 2017 07:56:16
I think if we want to challenge for the title this season we have to keep Coutinho.

If we are happy with top 4 then sell him, buy Meyer and then maybe we can challenge in the 18/ 19 season once we have gone through the transition period; again.

You are right though. The hysteria is excessive. Coutinho is critical to our immediate aspirations, but we lost Suarez who was 3 times the player, and yet here we are just 3 seasons on talking about a title challenge.


2.) 05 Aug 2017 08:28:47
Mate Coutinho was one of our top performers last season, scored the most goals and had the most assists, how is that inconsistent? The lad has improved year on year and is now coming into his prime - selling him is a terrible idea and the logic of 'well he can be replaced' is insane - who could we buy that would be an adequate replacement? Name players because I'd be interested to know who can fill that void.


3.) 05 Aug 2017 08:45:44
Seano - Coutinho is key obviously, and probably more to his sympathizers point, he is so key that when he is off invariably the team is off. So I can appreciate the feeling that if he goes then so doers all hope! But he is a step or two away from being the truly world class star some are already announcing him as. Th inconsistency is about how he disappears throughout the season and in some games. Ya rarely got that feeling with Suarez who, if Coutinho leaves now, was twice / thrice the player.


4.) 05 Aug 2017 09:06:17
Strengthening the defence is more of a concern.


5.) 05 Aug 2017 08:49:39
I think Coutinho was fantastic at times last season and believe the period he wasn't at his best you can excuse, as he was coming back from a lay off and not fully fit.
Any club would be weakened by the sale of such a talent but I am one who believes that you should always move on a player who's head as been turned by a offer from a club he wishes to play for.
The sum we should expect to recieve will be imo more than he's worth. I just hope we strengthen the first team.
I remember selling Rush and using the money to buy Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton. 3 players who went straight into the first team and made us one of the most exciting teams i have witnessed.
Ed02 has called this possible move for a while so I am not at all shocked by the situation.
Good luck to him wherever he plays next season, especially if he stays. let's get together and support the team YNWA.


6.) 05 Aug 2017 08:50:25
Just because the Spanish media are making noises does not mean Barcelona will sign Coutinho.

We have to keep our best players in order to progress. Coutinho is one of those players and it has been made perfectly clear that he ain't for sale.

Barca have the task now to replace Neymar and cannot see Coutinho being that player anyway.

Coutinho signed a new long term contract last season and he ain't pushing for a move at this point so we hold all the cards. People need to calm down.


7.) 05 Aug 2017 09:14:04
I understand what you are saying Faith but I respectfully disagree. Suarez was an inconsistent performer when he first joined us - hard working no doubt - but inconsistent, certainly in terms of his scoring rate. But he improved year on year (like Coutinho) and was already a few years older and wiser when joining us.

I know that, ultimately, Coutinho will leave for Spain but I hope he sticks around for another couple of years at least - he is a unique player who is arguably world class and a player I feel we would really struggle to replace. I don't even think the money is relevent in this situation - no matter what Barcelona would be prepared to pay it wouldn't help us find a player as good as Coutinho - if we have serious title aspirations then we cannot lose our best players.


8.) 05 Aug 2017 09:08:04
IF coutinho goes which I hope he doesn't what if we replace him with a world class striker who gets 30+ goals a season and drop bobby back into the number 10 role? I personally think that's his best position?

{Ed025's Note - i might have mentioned that before mate..


9.) 05 Aug 2017 09:24:47
I definitely don't disagree Seano, and actually is something I've been saying for a long time. Many fans are praising Coutinho as if he is currently the version I'd expect of him in 2019. But he is not. in the inevitability that he is going, this year or the next, we shouldn't let ourselves be hamstrung by the sale of any player. Let alone a player who more than likely is going to leave us before he becomes the truly world class player we think he is.

{Ed025's Note - hes excellent but your right..no one player is bigger than the club..


10.) 05 Aug 2017 09:46:22
I think the problem we have if coutinho goes is the same problem Barcelona are going to have purchasing him from us, everyone knows you have money so the ridiculous fees that are around this window will go up again knowing you've just made £120 million say from coutinho, I like coutinho and thinks he's special on his day but he isn't world class yet and he's not £120 million but because we know they have neymar money the price goes up, I just don't see a replacement and a reasonable price who will come in and do it and plus they'll have a massive fee over their heads that can break players.


11.) 05 Aug 2017 10:53:50
Seano is spot on. Couts is our most important and influential player, end of. No replacement in the short term will be able to do the things or have the creative influence he has on our team that has been built over the time he's been here. Not Siguurdsson, Meyer, Rafinha or whoever will do that for us. Let us stop deluding ourselves with this "he is not world class or that he is not consistent" or with whatever fee we will get for him. He had the most goals and assists for us last season. He played ill vs Stoke and pulled us out of a sticky spot along with Firmino. He bossed games vs Arsenal, WH, Watford and was critical for us in the run-in in many other games. That is consistent enough for me and in no way should he be sold or we will regret, Big Time.


12.) 05 Aug 2017 12:45:19
And in other games he was not. No one is arguing that he isn't important for us. But if ya haven't read the tea leaves or listened to tthe eds, he wants to go. He is too nice to do a VVD or sterling on us. we all want him to stay. For me I want him to stay so he can become the truly world class star before he leaves. More than he is today. Maybe if he stays this season, then we'll see one season of it!


 

 

 

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29 Nov 2017 19:10:02
He starting against Stoke so let’s see if he takes his chance.

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17 Nov 2017 01:04:37
For about 3-4 years in the mid 2000’s Ronaldinho was absolutely magnificent, easily the best player in the world at the time. One of my favourite players ever and just as much talent as anyone I have ever seen play the game.

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{Ed001's Note - shame he thought partying was more important than training. A bit of effort and he would have stayed at the top instead of fading away.}


 

 

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12 Nov 2017 05:29:31
Well if we are talking about being ridiculous maybe you shouldn’t suggest we should ‘take what we can’ for a player that we valued at over £120 million. Do we just give in and let Coutinho hold us to ransom because he only wants to join one club? If Liverpool is bigger than any player surely we can’t allow Coutinho to bully us into getting his way on his terms. We should sell him but only for an amount that the club deem acceptable.

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12 Nov 2017 01:56:31
Den82 what do you mean we take what we can? £10 million? £15 million? This isn’t a used car this is one of the best footballers in the premier league, we take what we think he is worth and nothing less.

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02 Nov 2017 20:51:56
Wolfsburg wanting to sign him permanently and Liverpool actually agreeing to it are two totally different things.

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18 Dec 2017 17:07:07
If you can’t have a little sympathy for a human being going through a tough time then you are not right in the head, it shouldn’t matter how much money he is earning. And we wonder why there is no loyalty in football anymore!

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07 Dec 2017 05:27:08
Maybe he just doesn’t want to sign a new contract and nothing is going to change his mind.

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06 Dec 2017 00:45:07
So was Jan Kromkamp!

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05 Dec 2017 18:57:54
No DM? Somewhere Harry’s head is exploding!

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05 Dec 2017 15:00:40
I like the look of Doucouré at Watford, he looks like he could become a very decent player.

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