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13 Dec 2017 22:01:56
What are peoples opinions on Wijnaldum. Henderson gets a lot of stick for apparently going sideways (though he drove us forward against Everton quite alot) but Wijnaldum doesn't even do that, just constantly backwards. All he does is lay the ball back to whoever passes it to him. I don't see him as a defensive midfielder so not really sure of what he brings at the moment. Would have brought him of a lot sooner than he did.


1.) 13 Dec 2017 22:05:47
I think we will see a shake up of the midfield in the summer.

2.) 13 Dec 2017 22:08:19
A wrong signing whose place is upgraded by the signing of Kieta! He was never a CM in the first place. Klopp like with Hendo shorn him to the current role! You ll keep asking this question on many players going forward! AOC would be next!

3.) 13 Dec 2017 22:11:00
I agree, I don't rate him one bit, he will always have my support whilst been a Liverpool player but he's just not doing it for us one bit.

4.) 13 Dec 2017 22:48:12
For me, there are two sides of Wijnaldum. One, is the man that strings together passes in our midfield and helps it to operate. And two, is the man that is completely annonymous during matches, afraid to make a mistake or do anything that might make him look bad.

Unfortuantely, the latter is the player we seem to get consistently. He has good to great games, don't get me wrong, but they are few and far between. Most games, Gini might as well not be playing. He seems scared, would rather be distant from the action than get stuck in and make himself known. More technical than aggressive.

I think Keita is the upgrade we need, he has a lot more in his locker, is brave, aggressive, and can contribute to offensive moves with his dribbling and pace. Gini is a decent back up option, nothing more. To step in when someone needs a rest or when an injury has occured.

He should not be starting, in my opinion. Unfortunately, we have little option as we have a frequent run of games coming up and he is needed. The man will never decide a game for us, he will always be in the background, either helping our passing game flow or he will be non-existant.

I am sure many will disagree but these are just my thoughts.

5.) 14 Dec 2017 10:46:12
LFC-S MANGO you have summed up my feelings perfectly! I have been keeping a beady eye on Wijnaldum this season and some games go by where I'm sure he doesn't make one forward pass over the 90 minutes. Even when seemingly obvious options are available in front of him, he puts his right foot on top of the ball, swivels around, and plays it backwards to the CBs. Although Henderson gets a lot of criticism a least he attempts to play the ball forward from the same position!



10 Dec 2017 19:45:36
Everton rolled over today and we didn't beat them. IMO no matter how you dress it up, we messed up and dropped 2 points, and for me, Klopp has to take the blame. Out of the players available, the team selected was no where near our strongest and for a merseyside derby that's not good enough. I don't think in anyway was it a pen and Lovren was silly in giving CL an opportunity to make it a pen. When they are for your team you take them.
Klopp tried to be clever and ended up with egg on his face. This was not rotation, it was klopp being clever for the sake of it and must carry the can.


1.) 10 Dec 2017 19:58:03
Barring lovers balls up we were winning so klopp never really got it wrong. A lot of our players have played a lot of minutes and we’re approaching the busiest part of the season.

2.) 10 Dec 2017 20:06:26
I agree with you the team that thumped moscow must of been buzzing and full of confidence yet klopp leaves 6 of them out i understand its a busy period and giving players a rest but I think this was the wrong game to do it klopps desisions baffle me sometimes.

3.) 10 Dec 2017 20:07:52
KLOPP on man. 1 shot on target from a pen that shouldn't have been and he got it wrong?
Did conte get it wrong as his players were TIRED?

4.) 10 Dec 2017 20:13:17
Tommy, Another hindsight post that makes little sense. Johnbarnes is right. Klopp got it right and it would not have mattered cos regardless of lineup, Everton were going to play the same way. Lovren had a good game as he had nothing to do. One can even argue if it was a pen. cos Lewin flew to the ground like he got shot in the back. If you are peeved, you should direct your attention to Mane who messed up a glorious chance in the first half by going alone with 3 LFC players waiting for the square ball for a 2-0 tap-in. But heylet's blame Klopp cos well, he told Mane to be a selfish player. Total nonsense. Klopp got it right and cos we did not win does not make it a wrong lineup.

5.) 10 Dec 2017 21:22:00
Agree totally brover.

6.) 10 Dec 2017 22:46:56
Spot on, Taytoman. Disagree, redsteeve. Every man and his dog knows that Klopp is rotating for this busy period where we have been playing every 3 days for the past 3 weeks and frankly, we have been more than successful as we have picked up 17 points from 21 and qualified for the CL KO stages. If you did not know that he would rotate today so as to keep our boys fresh then, that is not Klopp's fault. As for the lineup, neither you nor I have the info on players fitness, injuries, fatigue and energy levels which influence selection decisions before games so how you can draw conclusions w/ o having the info to analyse, is what is truly baffling.

He put a team out there that was more than good enough to win and they WERE winning had the ref not had a knob-head moment and got conned into giving them a pen. Are you blaming Klopp for the ref's brainfart as well? Are you blaming Klopp for Mane being a jerk and not passing to his team mates for a tap in cos Mane played in midweek vs Moscow? If the answers to the questions are no then I don't see what you could possibly be moaning about.



31 Aug 2017 23:52:21
Cheers to the Eds for the work over the last couple of weeks. Now its closed and I have had my pout that we didn't sign a CB, can't wait to get international break out of the way and back to the action.




31 Aug 2017 20:09:12
IMO, going into a champions league season with lovren, Klavan and Matip as our centre backs is mental. I know people will say Gomez will play, rubbish. He's played more games at full back than he has CB. Emre Can has played more games at CB than Gomez.


1.) 31 Aug 2017 20:16:17
So are you saying that the manager will field and empty shirt if hasn't got 2 of those 3 rather than Gomez? The lad is getting game time and that in itself is significant. If it comes to it I'd fully expect him to be used.

2.) 31 Aug 2017 20:16:55
We all agree mate! But for some reason Klopp disagree. Klavan and Lovren against Dybala, Messi, Huguain and many more to come!

3.) 31 Aug 2017 20:20:10
My thoughts entirely!

4.) 31 Aug 2017 20:21:08
Agree! can't believe we wasted the whole transfer window, defensively.

5.) 31 Aug 2017 20:26:28
I would rather have LFCs defence than Man Citys, Stones Otamendi all puddings, the new goalie they have is worse than Hart.

6.) 31 Aug 2017 20:26:40
Gomez is a centre back though? He has also just been made England u21 captain, such is his talent.

Besides, what is wrong with Matip, Lovren and Klavan? I think they could be improved on, but last time i checked we finished 4th with them last season and we would've been higher if we hadn't been missing Mane, Henderson and Matip for about 10 games.

7.) 31 Aug 2017 20:36:30
We don't all agree. Perhaps if you laid of the players and stopped creating this anxiety amongst the players then perhaps they will perform with more confidence. Take Karius for example. His first mistake with the ball at his feet and most fans were on his case. The poor lads confidence was shot to pieces. Give the players a break, get behind them and you might see improvements.

8.) 31 Aug 2017 20:37:39
Agree with MK
They are 4 decent centre backs. Our style of play will always leave us exposed at the back at times.
That style of play also leads to us scoring plenty of goals.
We look far stronger squad wise this season than last and that includes the defence.
We didn't get everything we want from the window but the. What team does. I think we've done decent business.

9.) 31 Aug 2017 20:47:45
MK, there's nothing wrong with klavan lovren or matip so long as they don't have to defend. I like Gomez but he is very inexperienced. We have no problems going forward our issue is defending, and so far all we've done to address our defensive issues is sign an attacking LB.

10.) 31 Aug 2017 20:46:22
What is wrong with Klavan and Lovren? Do you watch any Liverpool games? Klavan has about as much pace as a 3 legged Donkey and Lovren makes errors every game and is a penalty/ red card waiting to happen. As for them being improved on at their age I really can't see them getting any better.



25 Aug 2017 21:04:26
Regardless of how good he is, i can't see a way back for phillipe. Get the best deal possible and improve the squad with best available. Thanks for what you've done, but time to move on.


1.) 25 Aug 2017 21:40:50
I can't see a way back. He's said he does not want to play for the club ever again and is refusing to train by all accounts. The most important thing is to rinse Barcelona for every penny they have, to bring in top class players to improve our starting 11, not squad filler like Oxlade Chamberlain.

2.) 25 Aug 2017 21:53:46
I see everyone bashing ox, and I agree, he most likely wouldn't be an improvement to our starting 11. he would, however, be a great option to have on the bench or as an option for weeks where we have games in quick succession or injury problems.

3.) 25 Aug 2017 21:55:00
We'll sell him last minute, buy Ox for a fraction of the price and then bank the rest. Call it negative but some supporters called this weeks ago.

4.) 25 Aug 2017 22:04:42
Canada_Red the mistakes we've constantly made in the previous transfer windows is by buying sub standard players to 'improve the squad'. Isn't it about time we went out and actually improved the starting 11?

5.) 25 Aug 2017 22:14:11
mr dennis, I understand he's not an improvement on our starting 11. my point is, at the moment we don't have much for depth. what happens if somebody gets hurt Sunday? lallana down, pipco doing his thing, leaves us Milner and some kids that need more experience.

6.) 25 Aug 2017 22:18:01
Or kept our best players?

7.) 25 Aug 2017 22:35:58
Although there are better players we could sign, Oxlade-Chaimberlain is the only one who may be available. Personally, I rate him, and I also think Klopp can get the best out of him.

8.) 25 Aug 2017 23:12:01
Keep in mind he his best years are ahead of him. Wenger wants him to stay and he's breaking into their squad now. The contract ending, as in Sanchez case, is the only reason they would be willing to let him go. because they risk losing him on a free.

9.) 25 Aug 2017 23:24:56
You understand Canada Red that buying a squad player or someone to play in the first 11 has the same effect.
+1 player, it just means a former 1st teamer sits on the bench (who is more useful than buying a benchwarmer) .

10.) 25 Aug 2017 23:36:39
jtred very good point and I agree 100%, rather buy a starting 11 player then a bench player all day! how many of them are available right now? I see 0. rather add somebody for depth on the bench, than nobody at all.

11.) 26 Aug 2017 07:34:56
So canada you are in favour of bringing someone in who does not improve the first team and blocks the progress of the very promising youngsters we have in the squad. Is he better than grujic in the middle? Not to my mind im afraid and that's why i would not be spending £35m on squad player.




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11 Jan 2018 11:44:32
Or milinkovic savic.




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11 Jan 2018 09:26:25
Kopit81, unfortunately in recent times, we have eventually sold every player that we have recieved sizeable bids for. So IF Madrid do bid, the chances are that sooner or later Salah will be playing at the bernabeu.




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11 Jan 2018 09:12:57
Sorry for the ignorance but why shouldn't they be allowed to exist? Is it something Red Bull have done?


{Ed001's Note - because they are against all the rules of fan ownership that exist in Germany. They are purely a marketing tool of RB, not a genuine football club. They are the one club in Germany that is hated more than Bayern Munich. Usually you either support Bayern or hate them, but everyone hates RBL.}



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10 Jan 2018 16:32:00
More like selling Salah.





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12 Jan 2018 16:05:07
Totally agree with MK on this one. As good a player as Griezmann is (and he definitely gets in the team), I would say the need for a creative midfielder is greater. Taking money out of the equation, I still think Lemar suits our needs better. Plus, let's be serious, there is not a chance AG is actually going to join.




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12 Jan 2018 10:14:21
Lets just hope he doesn't move to southampton, because god only knows how much we'll be buying him back for season after next.




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27 Dec 2017 13:17:33
I don't think Robertson has done badly but also he's not don't that well, he's been nothing more than ok. My main issue with him is the same issue I had with Milner playing there, for some reason he keeps coming inside when he gets the ball and closes down other peoples space. After watching him the couple of times he has played I would say the only attribute he has over Moreno is that he doesn't make rash/ ridiculously stupid challenges in dangerous areas. Being as we've dominated the ball in our last several games I think we've missed Moreno personally.




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13 Dec 2017 23:00:45
I thought Robertson was really poor tonight. Him and Wijnaldum offered nothing and whilst they weren't the only players to have bad games they were the worst offenders.




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26 Nov 2017 15:04:43
12-15" further? You got problems, i think you should get an appointment to go see your GP asap.