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27 Jul 2018 11:00:54
Morning Eds,

The Liverpool Echo are linking us with a player called Lucas Paqueta and I was wondering if you could confirm (or deny) this interest and perhaps tell us a little bit about the player?

Thanks in advance.


{Ed002's Note - It is an interesting question. I am not actually aware of Liverpool making any approach for Lucas Paqueta at this time. The only direct approaches for the player I am aware of are from Benfica (who can't afford him) and Milan (who have struggled to get the AM they want and have made an approach about LP who would have been 4th or 5th option - but due to their finances and what they have to spend they would need to sell Suso to make it viable. Manchester City, Chelsea and Real Madrid have all looked at the player on more than one occasion but none has shown an interested in taking it any further at this time.}

1.) 27 Jul 2018 12:03:34
I think you said we had looked at him Ed a good while a go to be fair mate.

{Ed002's Note - Ok - I take it all back, lots of clubs look at players "a good while ago". What I am saying is recently, but I will try posting just the bare minimum so you can stop you constant whining.}

2.) 27 Jul 2018 12:04:14
Whilst i haven't heard anything concrete on any interest from us other than that we have scouted him along with 15,000 other players.

from a Brazilian perspective he is seen as on of the big future stars along with the two "cheap" Madrid signings.

3.) 27 Jul 2018 12:06:04
Thanks Ed2.

4.) 27 Jul 2018 12:26:16
Happy thoughts Ed02.

5.) 27 Jul 2018 13:33:01
Sorry Ed wasnt whining at all mate, just seem to remember you mention it that's all.

6.) 27 Jul 2018 18:01:39
Looks like a real crowd pleaser, plenty of flicks and tricks.
Not sure if he’s a Klopp style player but he’s a talented lad.

What’s his price bracket Ed002? 😘.

{Ed002's Note - Around €50M.}

7.) 28 Jul 2018 19:28:15
Thanks mate 👍.



24 Jul 2018 07:02:51
Some rumoured outs from a British tabloid:

Origi - Valencia interested
Ings - Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Southampton and West Ham
Mignolet - Fulham interested
Woodburn - Norwich and Sheffield Utd interested in loan
Markovic - Anderlecht, Getafe and Leganes all interested.
Grujic - Cardiff and Lazio interested in loan deal.
Also Ojo and Chirivella are available apparently.

I know some of this isn't news as the Eds have confirmed interest but thought I should share.


1.) 24 Jul 2018 07:54:33
I think this is good for the club and the players involved. Karius looks likely to leave if anyone will have him so guess we should be looking at an experienced back up goal keeper. Such a shame Danny Ward has left the club.

2.) 24 Jul 2018 07:56:18
Thanks RedNick. Sessegnon + cash for Mignolet? ;-)

3.) 24 Jul 2018 08:35:10
Interest in Ojo from Wolfsberg, Reading and Middlesboro apparently, from same or similar source. I wasn't sure how many of all these links were current though.

4.) 24 Jul 2018 08:36:22
Saw the price we want for Origi is £27mil. If he was performing as he did a couple years ago then teams might take that, but doubt we'd get that for him now :/.

5.) 24 Jul 2018 08:52:06
Zed - I hope you meant Mingolet + Cash for Sessengon?

6.) 24 Jul 2018 08:52:17
The prices Edwards seems to want for these players look absurd though, and it could create several Markovic situations where the interested clubs simply walk away.

Origi - 15 mil
Migs - 12 mil
Markovic, Ojo, Chirivella - 5 mil each
Ings - 10 mil
GRujic - Loan

That's the best we will probably get for these players. And we should take the money if offers are made. 27 million pounds for Origi is just ridiculous, we ain't getting that from anyone so sell for 15 million or so rather than lose him for free next summer. The valuations for fringe players should be realistic.

7.) 24 Jul 2018 09:10:46
We've just sold our 3rd choice keeper who barely played a game for us for £12.5mil and you think we can't get more for Migs?
Might want to re-evaluate your prices.

8.) 24 Jul 2018 10:01:28
20 origi
14 ings
17.5 migs
17.5 sturridge
6.5 markovich
4 ojo

0 Karius (thats a joke, keep the poor lad hopefully alisson will push him to be better)

9.) 24 Jul 2018 10:03:08
Ward > Migs though ;)

10.) 24 Jul 2018 10:14:51
Ward is younger and has a good last season when out on loan - mignolet has proven he is questionable, so at least with ward you may get a good buy, mignolet has been around long enough to know what you’re getting.

11.) 24 Jul 2018 10:52:07
Surely if richarlison is worth £50 m then origi is worth £27m, more experience full international and tbf to lad has got a bit about him, where else are u going ro get an international striker for less then that?

12.) 24 Jul 2018 13:53:03
I think we need to realise that 15million does not buy you proven quality or even near it. We got 15m for Jordan Ibe and that even before Neymar transfer raised the price of everyone.
I don't get this Ward love, or rather how anyone thinks he is better than migs or karius. Yes he had a decent spell in the championship but he was at at club where he would have been getting praised for making routine saves and errors were overlooked. Whereas our keepers get the opposite.

13.) 24 Jul 2018 14:11:08
James Pearce has said Sturridge is staying. Personally I love Sturridge so would be good to have him around the team. We all hope he can stay injury free. We say it every season. A fit Sturridge is world class. And the sad truth is its probably not going to happen. But in the words of Micheal Scott, I am ready to get hurt again.

14.) 24 Jul 2018 20:21:22
If grealish from villa can go for 40plus then 27 for origi is more than fair. We should really insert a sell on clause too.



08 Jul 2018 09:29:09
Morning Ed1, hope you're well? Can I ask whether you think we'll go back in for Fekir or if you think we've moved on from him

I only ask because everything Aulas keeps saying suggests it's over.

Thanks in advance.


{Ed001's Note - nothing has changed as far as I am aware.}

1.) 08 Jul 2018 10:15:00
He said the same thing about Lacazette last summer. The guy just loves to talk rubbish to anyone willing to listen.

2.) 08 Jul 2018 10:19:41
Sorry to jump in edd001 so do you think we still might go back in for him?

{Ed001's Note - yes, it still seems the most likely outcome. The lad wants the move, Lyon are willing to sell and Klopp wants him to join.}

3.) 08 Jul 2018 11:18:40
But his knee injury ed. We should steer clear.

Never sign someone who has had a acl, ox and ings are a little bit of proof.

It. doesn't matter wether is called over cautious. But someone who wants to turn like he does and not use to the league and in a pressing team like ours, it's got a high chance of reoccurring

Be frustrating to have ox and him out at the same time when we could of avoided it.

{Ed001's Note - when the only worry is the injury, I would say that makes him a good gamble worth taking, personally.}

4.) 08 Jul 2018 10:53:23
Aulas is doing right by his club and wanting the most for his club, you can’t argue with that. His methods are unorthodox but he gets what he wants which is a very good deal for Lyon. A tricky customer but if we want Fekir as much as Keita and VVD I trust the club to get it done.

P. s. he is also trying to drum up interest for a better deal, we all do the same if we are selling something so why should it be different for a player.

5.) 08 Jul 2018 10:53:23
Aulas is doing right by his club and wanting the most for his club, you can’t argue with that. His methods are unorthodox but he gets what he wants which is a very good deal for Lyon. A tricky customer but if we want Fekir as much as Keita and VVD I trust the club to get it done.

P. s. he is also trying to drum up interest for a better deal, we all do the same if we are selling something so why should it be different for a player.

6.) 08 Jul 2018 11:20:12
To be honest, I think Aulas comments are him trying to test us again for another bid, he knows what he’s doing, can play hard ball all he wants but it’s clear he wants to sell Fekir, absolutely obvious he does, just wants to make himself look good beforehand, getting tired of the Fekir saga though I must say.

7.) 08 Jul 2018 13:22:30
Not when it's the knees. There season and career enders.

You would put 60 mil on him not suffering another acl in the next 5 season's with us?

Ings came 2 months into career, oxs 10 months.

It's to big of an injury to shake off as a gamble. It hits and he's gone for a season minimum. They usually follow with ankle and muscle problems after. We didn't see ings for 2 season's. The ox were not being for at least 12 months. Once he is back unfortunately he will suffer another Injury, probably muscle related.

Muscle problems you can always hope there down to the poor fitness programme and such but knees, ankles and back are impossible to overcomes even through excessive pain medication etc.

8.) 08 Jul 2018 14:33:40
Kloppsboss - have you seen the medical results and has chance to analyse them? Assuming the answer is no you're just making assumptions. Knee injuries Can be career enders but you have no idea what's happening with this knee.

9.) 08 Jul 2018 15:51:42
Wasn’t it us messing Lyon about with payment structures rather than the medical that stalled the talks?

10.) 08 Jul 2018 16:04:51
It's nothing to do with the medical my obnoxious friend.

He has already suffered an acl. I'm saying once a player has had an acl you should steer well clear.

Recently we have been bitten twice by that in ings and ox. Both suffered acl, we sign them, put them in klopps press and they both got hit again, Danny boy got hit twice.

It's just not a 60million pound gamble worth making.

{Ed002's Note - Why did Liverpool waste all of that time then? You are making the club sound more stupid than the fans.}

11.) 08 Jul 2018 16:21:49
I trust ed001 on this. None of us know what happened for real, if it is the knee, there will not be detailed info on Fekirs knee available for us. ACL injury could be careerending, but 98 % of athletes at a top level comes back to their former level. Reinjury is an area where there is produced little research about, but on studio shows a reinjury rate at 5,6 % (just 176 top athletes in the study) . There are big differences in secondary injuries (in ACL injuries), from non to meniscusinjuries, cartilage injuries, tendoninjuries and on and on. The medical staffs are getting better and better in handling these injuries, so if the real problem is Fekirs knee there is either a more complexinjury (most likelydende cartilageinjury), or there is a tactical matter to get the price down (or a different payment structure), or there is a whole different matter that we don't know anything about.

12.) 08 Jul 2018 16:30:41
We have another mystic meg it seems!

{Ed002's Note - It was about the money. That was explained at the time. If a club wishes to buy a player, they make an acceptable offer and everyone is happy.}

13.) 08 Jul 2018 16:52:38
Exactly Ed, some people just look into it more then what it actually is.

14.) 08 Jul 2018 17:14:50
Omg. What are you all on today.

Mr 002 I meant my comment wasn't about the medical not the club's decision why they pulled the transfer

As for the stats behind it, all I know is the medical staff did wonders for the ox and they could do nothing to prevent the acl from returning, nor could they when Danny's hit against Tottenham for the second time with us. Both came in self inflicted non worrying situations

As for your stats is that all of athletes from any sport because if it includes golf then it's going to sqiff he results a bit or are they including gks etc? Or is it just prem based because Torres had 2, ings had 2, ox has had 2.

This is the prem. It's klopps high pressing system. It's intense and fekir is someone who like to turn sharply.

I just wouldn't want to stick 60 mil on it not going again. Would rather make a little safer investment. What's the point in having fekir but he's out injured?

{Ed002's Note - You really should not post on matters such as this as you are justting caught up in a web of dribble.}

15.) 08 Jul 2018 17:30:42
Fair enough ed. Will steer clear in the future.

Fekir has never suffered an acl and unlike ox and Danny ings who both suffered secondary ones, he will not.

We should invest 60 million because there is absolutely no chance of another knee injury.

Apologies for getting involved with my silly comments!

16.) 08 Jul 2018 17:32:30
Also ed I am well aware the club are trying to get the price lower by complaining about the medical. I completely understand that.

I'm talking from a fact point of view. He has had a acl. There's more chance of it returning that not. Is it worth a 60 million pound investment to find out?

{Ed002's Note - Well obviously Liverpool thought it was - otherwise why waste their tiem and effort on the player?}

17.) 08 Jul 2018 18:03:04
I know the club thought it was, I'm just saying in my opinion I don't think it is a risk worth taking, that is all. As ings and the ox proved.

Thanks for the dialogue though dude/ dudet :)

18.) 08 Jul 2018 19:49:24
Hi ed01 I was just wondering whether or not you see Fekir as a guaranteed. Obviously, that's down to Klopp but I think the majority see him walking straight into the startin XI. I for one, don't see it this way I think Jordan Henderson is going to rise to the occassion and take up a place in the midfield 3 with Keita and Fabinho. Fabinho will definitely play as the deepest lying midfielder and Keita will be our box to box player. Ok I definitely see Fekir as a better attacking option and more of a goal threat than Henderson but Jordan will make our midfield harder to penetrate and he'll be able to slot in easier if Fab or Keita get caught out of position. That midfield would screen our back four quite adequately in my opinion and still leave us with an abundance of attacking options. Plus Jordan will pass the ball earlier which should help improve our fluidity. Sometimes these gifted dribblers like Fekir can tend to hold on tobthe ball a tad too long for my liking. However I would be made up if we do get Fekir and he breaks into the starting XI. Imagine the competition for spots with Ox still to come.

{Ed001's Note - nothing is guaranteed.}

19.) 08 Jul 2018 20:04:25
Thanks ed 01 Not the response I was looking for but never the less quick and honest.

20.) 08 Jul 2018 18:55:32
Any player can rupture anything at anytime. Why waste time and money on anyone if you think like that? The club, the people who have looked in to such things and have thought long and hard about whether it is a risk, or not, have decided that he is worth it. That should be enough. It's not your cash, try not to worry about how much is spent, and on whom.

21.) 08 Jul 2018 21:02:10
Kloppsboss - his ACL has only gone once, a year later he had a slight issue with his knee but he was only out for 3 weeks so not a serious one. Although his next knee injury came 5 months later and he was out for 1 month.

So far he hasn't reinjured his ACL keeping him out for too long, and he is still able to play the way he does.
If he only misses 1 month a season then it’s a lot better than if he kept rupturing his ligament and being out for half a season or more.

He was probably more likely to get injured during the world cup if it was as bad as you think.
He didn’t get many minutes and had to go full tempo straight away to keep up with the rest of the team when he did get on the pitch instead of warming into the game directly after a long warmup phase, that could have resulted in him stressing his knee with his movements but it hasn't :)
Wasnt finisged but lost my train of thought here so ima press send xD.

22.) 08 Jul 2018 21:02:50
ACLs were a huge issue years ago not anymore. Within the last 15 years there are numerous examples of players coming back from ACL injuries and excelling. van Nistelrooy, Keane, Shearer, there is loads more recent ones but too many beers this pm!

Had both knees done myself and came back stronger on both occasions albeit just at Irish League level. Fekir will sign Lyon are just being their usual hardselves to deal with.

23.) 08 Jul 2018 22:15:47
Alex oclade Chamberlain has just redone his after similar time boys. Like a few months ago. He's out till next year. Medical science has come on?

Danny ings did his twice, one whilst having a full rehabilitation programme under us.

Both did them in not obvious situations.

All I'm saying is its like would you rather buy a puppy or a dog that bit it's last owner on the arse. Sure it might never happen again but is it worth the risk?

They do have a high percentage of reoccurring in the prem, we have seen that over the past few years with our boys. Just imagine whacking 60 mil on the kid then fellaini or someone crashes his knee and that's it done. He's gone for the entire season.

Acl can happen to any player but your hedging your bets by buying someone who has never had one.

Pulisic for example. As good, huge love from klopp me

Or brandt. I just don't feel fekir is at that level where your like his quality just negates every bit of risk. Like a mbpape would or something. He's a good player but in the bracket of a lot of similar players.

I'm not wishing anything on him just more from a different perspective really couldn't stand going for him over a brandt or pulisic and then he is out for the season.

24.) 08 Jul 2018 23:36:03
nobody on this site has seen Fekir's medicals. The truth is we don't know had bad his knee is, and how likely a problem is to happen. That's why you pay professionals you trust to give you their opinion. Our recruitment was very poor before klopp arrived. If his knee checks out and he is a player we like, then we should try to find an agreement with Lyon. Simple as that.

25.) 09 Jul 2018 00:21:18
I actually agree with your opinion of recurrence Kloppsboss and there seems to be some facts to back it up which I have pasted below. What I think is that we have no idea what went on in medical but I am certain they are aware of the past injury, we do not know what the club plans are for the player, we are not football managers with detailed knowledge and experience at the highest level. We need to trust the club to make expensive decisions and simply welcome and support him if he arrives. If the lad gets injured again then so be it. but if he scores the winner in the next CL final. pay the price!

Paste:: Applies to US Football

Copied from US National Library of Medicine


Anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury is a severe event for a footballer, but it is unclear if the knee injury rate is higher on returning to football after ACL injury.


To study the risk of knee injury in elite footballers with a history of ACL injury compared with those without.


The Swedish male professional league (310 players) was studied during 2001. Players with a history of ACL injury at the study start were identified. Exposure to football and all time loss injuries during the season were recorded prospectively.


Twenty four players (8%) had a history of 28 ACL injuries in 27 knees (one rerupture) . These players had a higher incidence of new knee injury of any type than the players without ACL injury (mean (SD) 4.2 (3.7) v 1.0 (0.7) injuries per 1000 hours, p  =  0.02). The risk of suffering a knee overuse injury was significantly higher regardless of whether the player (relative risk 4.8, 95% confidence interval 2.0 to 11.2) or the knee (relative risk 7.9, 95% confidence interval 3.4 to 18.5) was used as the unit of analysis. No interactive effects of age or any other anthropometric data were seen.


The risk of new knee injury, especially overuse injury, was significantly increased on return to elite football after ACL injury regardless of whether the player or the knee was used as the unit of analysis.

26.) 09 Jul 2018 07:59:18
Kloppboss and RedalLover. I wrote you a reply, but manged to post it on the trend believe this one.

27.) 09 Jul 2018 18:23:17
Like you say, this study is from 2001 and the sample size isn't really big enough to provide an accurate conclusion.
Rehabilitation techniques have significantly improved in 17 years so I would suggest this data is not appropriate to today's game.

28.) 09 Jul 2018 19:46:39
Bit late to this party but didn’t van nistlerooy’s original transfer to United get put on hold due to him rupturing his ACL? It pains me to say it still but he came back from that to have a long and successful career. injuries happen all the time, but it doesn’t mean a player can’t reach potential, look how good Fekir’s season was last year, he was incredible.



09 Jun 2018 17:11:37
Evening Ed1, to break the tedium regarding the will he/ won't he Fekir saga I was wondering if there was anything new regarding the apparent pursuit of Shaqiri? Are we definitely interested? Thanks in advance buddy, hope you're having a good weekend.


{Ed001's Note - I don't know anything about it at all or of any interest.}

1.) 09 Jun 2018 17:18:34
Read it was just his agent drumming up interest and nothing more.

2.) 09 Jun 2018 17:46:41
Thanks for the reply Ed, and thanks Banjo.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

3.) 09 Jun 2018 19:16:40
im not sure, I think this one might have some legs. little legs granted.

4.) 09 Jun 2018 19:22:45
FEKIR deal off.

5.) 09 Jun 2018 22:18:24
Ed002 - and he whimpers like a pre-pubescent schoolgirl a lot. Wow. Showing your true colours there.



17 Nov 2017 13:53:47
Afternoon ed2, I have a question re the players mentioned in the sharks pod if you don't mind?
Would it be safe to assume that if no more than Can and Coutinho leave (and we do end up with Gomes) we're only going to sign one of Meyer, Lamar, Brandt and Draxler (assuming we manage to get any of them)?


{Ed002's Note - I can’t make assumptions like that. Liverpool will look to get rid of Markovic in January for reasons I explained.}

1.) 17 Nov 2017 21:58:51
OK, thanks for answering Ed.




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20 Aug 2018 22:45:16
Wanted to send my best wishes to Salah (the poster) . Hope you make a speedy recovery mate. YNWA.


1.) 21 Aug 2018 01:31:48
Get well, YNWA.

2.) 21 Aug 2018 08:24:13
Wishing u a speedy recovery mate. X.

3.) 21 Aug 2018 09:30:30
Get well soon Salah, thoughts are with you mate always enjoy what you bring to this site. YNWA.



17 Aug 2018 09:05:15
Morning Ed1, can I check if the following players on the profile list please: Dennis Bergkamp (I'm sure he is) and Alessandro Del Piero.
Thanks mate, hope you're well.


{Ed001's Note - yes mate both on there.}

1.) 17 Aug 2018 19:22:58
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome Nick.}



29 Jul 2018 10:25:40
Happy birthday Ed1. Hope you enjoy it. Have a good day mate.


{Ed001's Note - thank you very much RN.}

1.) 29 Jul 2018 10:43:42
Many happy returns, my friend.

{Ed001's Note - thanks BR}

2.) 29 Jul 2018 10:50:15
Happy Birthday Ed 1.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Drogie.}

3.) 29 Jul 2018 10:53:00
Happy 21st Ed.

{Ed001's Note - thank you RP.}

4.) 29 Jul 2018 11:03:31
Happy birthday ed01.

{Ed001's Note - thank you Hope.}

5.) 29 Jul 2018 11:16:47
Happy birthday Tris.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Chaki, very much appreciated, all the wishes.}

6.) 29 Jul 2018 11:15:31
Happy birthday ed. Appreciate what you do for us lot.

{Ed001's Note - thank you very much shents.}

7.) 29 Jul 2018 12:18:25
Many happy returns of the day, Ed.

{Ed001's Note - cheers AB.}



11 Jul 2018 07:21:36
Reading some of the comments and replies on this site is embarrassing. It makes me embarrassed to be a Liverpool fan. It makes me feel bad for the Eds and it makes me pray that this site is inundated with teenagers because if some of the cretins are adults then it makes me sad for the state of our society. There's lots of users this post doesn't apply to but there's many of you whose negative rhetoric I can't stand. You slag off Henderson, Lovren, Milner (until he started to play well) and anyone else who you decide shouldn't be in YOUR club. Then you tack YNWA on the end of your posts like it means something to you? And it makes me wonder if some of you actually know what it means?

That's before we even consider the crap a lot of you have given Karius. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you were the ones sending his death threats because you come across so immature when you get excited behind your keyboards.

I hate to say this but I'm fed up of reading the same sh! t day after day.


1.) 11 Jul 2018 07:26:06
Spot on mate, very well said.

2.) 11 Jul 2018 07:36:35
Thanks Salah mate. I just read everything that was put on here last night and I'd just had enough of it.

3.) 11 Jul 2018 07:38:09
Fair points, except the death threats. Surely none on here are that bad? Then again, the Ed's must delete a lot of crap we don't get to see, so maybe you're right.

4.) 11 Jul 2018 07:54:52
I noticed a lot who come on here with there hate, only post when they want to jump on sum1 back, they coudnt wait 4 karius to make a mistake, and then turned on ed2 for no reason, i will never slate a liverpool player for a mistake, i will support and get behind every player, end of the day its up2 klopp who he picks and want.

{Ed001's Note - the problem is some people do not understand the difference between criticism and abuse.}

5.) 11 Jul 2018 07:47:27
It's just shocking Nick to see some of the comments on here mate. People calling him a clown etc, is there really any need? it does my head in too mate. Thankfully we still have some fans who know what the word support means.

{Ed025's Note - i think we have to stop being snowflakes salah, is it so despicable for supporters to voice their opinion that they think a player is not good enough to be picked in their team?, if its nasty abusive personal stuff then ok you have a point but lets not tar everyone with an opinion with the same brush, next thing will be that its considered a hate crime if you say a player should be dropped!, the PC brigade will be having a field day mate..

6.) 11 Jul 2018 08:10:08
Yea ed1 and there was a lot of abuse last night that i had to stop coming on here as it was making me angry, and didn't want to post something i regret,

{Ed001's Note - it is sickening to edit too. I fully understand why you get angry. I just end up not replying to anything some days to avoid saying the wrong thing. No point getting angry or the idiots have won anyway.}

7.) 11 Jul 2018 08:06:54
I have to say, couldn’t agree more and reading some of the knee jerk reaction comments to a fumble of a free
Kick is ridiculous. IN A FRIENDLY

Now more than ever I feel so sorry for the Ed’s! The amount of BS they have to receive, filter through, read and respond to must be infuriating and I don’t know how you do it, the posts at the moment RE: LK are disgusting and embarrassing. That’s just the ones that have been allowed through.

Look at the facts. Karius In stats was improving and kept a notable amount of clean sheets, he did have a bad a start but in my opinion could be down to Klopp and his indecisive approach to the number 1. Once he was number one we looked more assured and stable at the back.
The final he had a brain injury which was confirmed by a highly trained and Recognised doctor.

Not promoting it but why not throw Milner under the same bus for his mistake in the 2nd goal? Maybe we should just sell everyone as soon as they make a mistake. For their own good you know. Or send them all out on loan As soon as they make a mistake. For their own good and in the spirit of YNWA.

Navas, Alison, Butland were all quoted as an improvement. Not in a million years are any of them better than LK. Did you watch the World Cup? How about champions league games against Roma. Alison clearly the better of the 3 mentioned above and the mistakes I have seen him
Make in the limited amount of games iv watched, well let’s just say he would be loaned out by now for his own good. And what a charitable thing to do after spending 60-80 mill on a new keeper. There is no easy cheap fix or even a guarantee that if we spend 100 million that there will be no mistakes. It’s football played by humans. Back the man or shut up. Go support another team because the comments I have read this morning doesn’t feel or
Sound like Liverpool supporters comments.

Just to add cause I don’t post very often. Thanks to all the eds. you do an incredible job and it really is appreciated. Love this site and all the work and effort you guys put in is worthy of so much more than just a thanks. But still. Thank you! RESPECT!

{Ed025's Note - i know it was just a friendly redhof but its not as if this was his first faux pas is it?, there have been a catalogue of errors from him since his arrival mate and although i admire loyalty sometimes you have to hold your hands up and admit that a player simply is just not good enough..

8.) 11 Jul 2018 08:15:36
Ed25, my issue is that there are some on this site who can't criticise without being personal and abusive.

{Ed025's Note - i dont condone that at all nick, some of it i see as banter but i hate the nasty stuff and refuse to post it mate, i think he needs replacing myself but thats just an opinion on him as a player..

9.) 11 Jul 2018 08:19:37
Yea agree, have a good day ed1 and salah.

10.) 11 Jul 2018 08:19:43
Ed25. You are right to some degree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, rightly so but where I have an issue is people just ranting and spouting non-sense for the sake of it and with out any facts or stats to prove or back up their point.

Fans should be supporters and not fair weather supporters when things are going great, support the team and players. We can’t keep buying new players after one or 2 mistakes. With this abuse that Karius is receiving, which is completely out of proportion to the mistake last night, why would any keeper or player want to play for us.

{Ed025's Note - but there is faith and there is blind faith redhof, i will be honest if he keeps his place there will be no one happier than myself mate.. :)

11.) 11 Jul 2018 08:36:09
Guess we will agree to disagree Ed25. Not so sure about a catalogue of errors though mate. Perhaps It’s my red tinted glasses but I can recall watching Migs in the FA Cup at Anfield thinking that we are screwed for the rest of the season because iv never seen such a bad keeping performance in all my life. After that Karius did make the odd mistake and is far from a world class keeper but my god what an improvement and stats do prove he was one of the better keepers in the league in 2nd half of the season.

It’s not just blind faith, we have seen what he is capable of.

{Ed025's Note - we have seen what hes capable of rehof..and thats the problem.. but each to their own mate..

12.) 11 Jul 2018 08:38:17
Thanks tim you too mate.

Ed25 exactly mate I mean I'm all for people having their opinions on LK but it's the abuse what I'm so against, it's just gone to another level again mate after it'd calmed down somewhat, some people are treating this game like it was another final.

{Ed025's Note - some do go too far salah and myself i just delete them, but if its fair comment and a balanced argument as to why he should not be the No1 choice then i think it only fair that them posts are aired as well mate..

13.) 11 Jul 2018 09:21:25
I thank you Ed25 and the other eds for deleting them kind of comments, unfortunately social media doesn't have Eds to monitor comments, it's bloody disgusting on there mate.

{Ed025's Note - i dont do social media for exactly them reasons salah, its full of keyboard warriors who vent their evil behind a monitor and have no social skills to discuss logically mate..

14.) 11 Jul 2018 10:14:12
Karius for me isn't good enough for us. Neither is mignolet. ward I have no idea. Simple as that.



04 Jul 2018 19:53:26
Ed1, can I ask you your opinion on our current striking options?

Obviously Firmino is our first choice and it appears as though Solanke is seen as the main back up (seems that way to me at least) . With Brewster signing a new deal do you see him being 3rd choice?

If so does that leave Origi and Sturridge surplus to requirements. I haven't included Ings because he wants first team footy.


{Ed001's Note - Sturridge and Ings should be gone this summer. I think Solanke is planned to get a season-long loan, if the right one can be found. At least that was what I was told a while back, not sure if that plan has been re-thought. Brewster is likely to be on the bench and play cup games. Origi is the interesting one, I would expect the pre-season will decide his fate.}

1.) 05 Jul 2018 07:35:32
Ed im a bit surprised Solanke likely a season long loan tbh mate. Especially with Sturridge and Ings being sold on. don't you think we will be a bit light for striker options leaving just Firmino and Brewster, who I understand is struggling to be fit to start the season?

Any chance we might see another one arrive?

{Ed001's Note - Mane and Salah can both play up top and I do expect another attacking player to come in.}

2.) 05 Jul 2018 08:27:09
Ed, I have read a couple of reports in the last few hours seeming to suggest that Origi wants to stay/ is staying. How accurate said reports are is anyone's guess.

{Ed001's Note - it is based on what he has said publicly.}

3.) 05 Jul 2018 08:15:54
If Solanke can get a very good loan, I'd say give Origi one more season to prove he can step up to Champions League level, if he impresses in pre-season. He'll turn 24 next season and it'll be clutching at straws to continue to refer to him as a young striker anymore. So he has to find his stride now.

My fingers are crossed for him but based on what I saw of him at Wolfsburg, his days with us are numbered. He's actually regressed as a player. He's still the best of the 3 players (Solanke and Brewster) on current ability, but being better than players you are about 4 years older than isn't something to shout about.

I don't want to sound like I'm just beating him non-constructively. Obviously he is a good goalscorer, i think he's an under rated dribbler, and he has lots of pace. What he needs to improve is his first touch under pressure (so that his hold up play is better), his work rate has to be better too, and most importantly he needs to get his head up and pick the right pass more frequently. It's now or never with us though.

4.) 05 Jul 2018 08:49:51
Good and fair post MK.

5.) 05 Jul 2018 09:31:04
Ed, another attacking player to arrive, could well be Shaqiri.

{Ed001's Note - I was not referring to him.}

6.) 05 Jul 2018 09:50:59
Thanks for the reply Ed. Were you referring to a player who's initials are NF for the other attacking option?

{Ed001's Note - or similar yes.}

7.) 05 Jul 2018 09:55:36
Spot on mk, totally agree mate.

8.) 05 Jul 2018 11:04:31
I don't think Origi is as bad as people make out. I'd be happy to have him another season.

9.) 05 Jul 2018 12:11:14
Origi is our best option after the first team forwards.

10.) 05 Jul 2018 12:55:28
If ings and ds leave and solanke goes on loan then I'd say we need a new striking option even with origi and brewster.

I'd be okay with origi being given the shot although I'd prefer solanke to be no2.

And agree mk, always thought origi needs to get his head up more. If he could hold the ball up he would be a much, much better player. Something that wasn't discussed in the debate solanke/ origi the other day. Solanke holds the ball up better.




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27 Jul 2018 12:06:04
Thanks Ed2.




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26 Jul 2018 10:42:07
He appears to be on the lash in NYC. I wouldn't read too much into it.




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17 Jul 2018 18:22:18
Where do you live hailstones? I'll take that bet regardless (even though I also don't think we'll sign him)




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08 Jul 2018 16:03:59
Are you able to say why Ed? And is there no chance of reconciliation?


{Ed002's Note - I dealt with this last season when he resigned. Move on.}



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08 Jul 2018 14:33:40
Kloppsboss - have you seen the medical results and has chance to analyse them? Assuming the answer is no you're just making assumptions. Knee injuries Can be career enders but you have no idea what's happening with this knee.





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07 Dec 2018 19:01:46
Thank you Ed. That's really detailed.


{Ed001's Note - I have a study somewhere I saved the link for about the recovery from ACL injuries. It just doesn't seem to be on this comp. Anyway, the study found, by monitoring the brain, that it took about 18 months for neural pathways to return to normal after an injury like that. I think it was 18 months, I am going by memory as I can't find the link I did have, just a piece on it which merely says 'months'. So it is about retraining the brain as much as the legs.}



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07 Dec 2018 17:17:11
Do you think it will take a year for full fitness like it did Ings?


{Ed001's Note - sharpness rather than fitness, yes. Fitness can come fairly quickly, as they can do other things to keep fit while healing. It is the mental aspect of learning to trust your body is not going to break down and to move as you did before the injury.}



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07 Dec 2018 17:15:52
Love it Zeddicus.




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07 Dec 2018 13:53:48
What would you suggest the best way for him to get back to full fitness would be? If he will be too unfit for first team does that mean extensive training and spells in the u-23 team?


{Ed001's Note - extra training sessions, under-23 matches, maybe a behind closed doors friendly or two and some sub appearances when he is getting near.}



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12 Nov 2018 11:24:40
And former RB Lee Peltier has made it to the Prem with Cardiff.