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04 Oct 2015 15:41:40
Not a bad game but not particularly good either.

Coutinho and Sturridge were pretty quiet today.

Sakho, moreno and lucas all did a good job defensively.

Ings is starting to look like a shrewd bit of business, if he can provide even 10 goals this season it's worth it.

Mignolet was superb, did all he could to keep us in it.

Can and milner had shockers again today. Twice in a row we have conceded from pretty much the exact same defensive error.

Clyne looks very scared to lose possession which removes all attacking threat from him. He has the potential to be just as good at getting forward as moreno but needs to take on his man rather than turning and passing backwards all the time.

Skyrtel will give away a penalty sooner or later. He gets away with murder in the box.

Surely Rogers must be hanging by a thread after all the hype around his position.

I would drop milner for henderson when back. He is too hit or miss, runs flat out for 90 mins but doesn't do much with it. Henderson is far less wasteful and has everything milner brings to the team.

Alot of work for the new manager coming in if that ever does happen.


 

 

18 Aug 2015 12:45:29
Hey Eds. Is there anything new with Verrati of PSG? Do we hold any interest that you know of?

{Ed002's Note - There is no interest from Liverpool.}


 

 

07 Jul 2014 15:02:19
Heard that Bologne are interested in Borini now that Sunderland seem to have backed off.

Is this rubbish?
Not from twitter btw heh.


1.) 07 Jul 2014 16:41:41
If Sunderland cannot afford him, I don't see how Bologna can.

{Ed008's Note - Bologna have just been relegated to Serie B have huge financial problems I very much doubt they could afford Borini let alone see him joining the club.


 

 

04 Feb 2014 16:43:34
Papers saying we will go back in for Kono and maybe scramble for Toni Kroos in the summer. Would be brilliant additions to the squad but I doubt anyone is expecting Kroos.

Cant see our budget covering both of them.


1.) Surely some of the money we get from Suarez will go to transfers, as well as the TV rights deal and potential CL money if we did manage to make it.


2.) I'd love Firmino. Can't see us meeting Kroos' wage demands either.


3.) 05 Feb 2014 01:09:17
Absolutely zero chance of Kroos unless we win the league! He will have a number of CL clubs queuing up for his services.


 

 

31 Jan 2014 13:32:03
Sly aports just said some of the complecations of the kono deal are "unbelievable". Do you know anything about this eds?

{Ed001's Note - it is a number of things, add ons, signing fees, pay offs, palm greasing etc.}


1.) Ssn have also just said that we are in talks right now with the player and his agent father over a 5 and a half year deal so does that mean that stuff like pay offs and agent fees are now complete and it's just about the contract now

{Ed001's Note - seems to be all done, yes.}


2.) 31 Jan 2014 13:55:42
Think they are repeating the phrase 'unbelievable' from a tweet this morning by Kono's agent, James Tippett @JamTipp78.


3.) Thanks a lot I don't no how or where you get your little snipets or info from wish I was in the no like you eds but hey we still get info great job guys and here's hoping for a successful end to the window also if we do infact sign him will he be eligible to play west brom

{Ed001's Note - years of getting to know the right people mate. Ed002's contacts are way better than mine, worldwide. It is just a case of talking to people really. Also, they have to trust that you won't reveal things they don't want known, which can be frustrating as sometimes we know things we can't reveal.}


4.) Lucky people your not lfc or ex lfc players are you lol

{Ed001's Note - no, I wish.}


 

 

 

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07 Jun 2018 12:16:32
We already have Fabinho and Keita coming in, if we get Allison, Fekir and Shaqiri there will be a huge abundance of players not even making the bench let alone the first team. It’s safe to say that the players who will keep their place based on current form are Salah, Firmino, Mane, Van Dijk, Robertson and possibly Lovren. It’s also fair to say that Fekir, Fabinho, Keita and Allison would be bought in as first team players.

So, going off our regular formation from last season you would say that our starting line-up (all players above signed and nobody leaving other than Emre Can) would be: Mane, Firmino, Salah, Fekir, Keita, Fabinho/ Henderson, Robertson, VVD, Lovren, TAA and Allison.

The bench would likely consist of: Solanke, Shaqiri, Oxlade, Fabinho/ Henderson, Moreno, Gomez and Karius. That leaves us the following players in reserves who may not even make the bench until injuries come into play: Ings, Origi, Sturridge, Milner, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Grujic, Markovic, Klavan, Matip, Clyne, Flanagan, Mignolet, Bogdan and the youth players Ward, Randall, Woodburn and Ojo who are reaching an age where you should start being noticed as potential starter if you hope to make it at the club.

Obviously, there are exceptions like Woodburn (18) and TAA (19) for us or Sessengon (17) at Fulham but on average its rare for a youth player under 20 years old to cement a place at a top 6 side.

The point im trying to make with all of this is that of all the reserve players (Some of you may disagree with who starts or who is on the bench) Lallana, Ward and Sturridge appear to want out, I doubt Ings, Grujic or Origi would want to be in the reserves for another season. Milner and Klavan are coming towards the end of their careers both at 32 years of age and Mignolet, Bogdan, Markovic, Clyne and Flanagan seem to have all been deemed not good enough.

So it limits the selection of reserve players happy to just be called upon when needed to Milner and Klavan (for the time being), Wijnaldum, Matip, Randall, Woodburn and Ojo.

What does everyone else think? Is this enough or do we have issues? Am I talking rubbish?


1.) 07 Jun 2018 13:42:50
Defence:

(Alisson) / Karius---Mignolet, Ward and Bogdan are going to leave.
A. Arnold/ Gomez----Clyne and Flanagan are going to leave.
Lovren/ Matip
VanDijk/ Klavan
Robertson/ Moreno

Middlefield:

Fabinho/ Henderson---Can is leaving on a free and Chirivella can be kept as back up or will leave.
(Fekir) / Chamberlain---Milner maybe will stay because Chamberlain is out half season.
Keita/ Wijnaldum---Lallana is leaving, Grujic maybe a loan or will leave too and Ejaria is going on loan.

Forwards:

Salah and Mane/ (Malcom, Vasquez or the kid from nigeria? linked yesterday) ---Markovic is leaving, Wilson, Kent, Ojo and Woodburn will compete to stay in the team as cover i think two of them will leave on loan and two will be kept for cover.

Firmino/ Solanke was his cover but if he goes to Rangers on loan maybe Origi is kept if not he will leave. ---Sturridge will leave and Brewster will leave if he doesn't sign a contract extension if he does he will stay as cover.

Dont worry we are going to have a pretty strong XI and our bench will be Strong too with a mix of youth.

3 signings to go!


2.) 07 Jun 2018 13:43:10
I think you're working on the assumption that our squad will still be a tight numbers, rigid affair. With more viable players we will be resting people and playing tactically a lot more. A very small group of players will play close enough every game, although even they will be rotated to stay fresh over busier periods. The rest will be selected on form in training, form during games and as a tactical fit for our game plan. If we are playing someone that is obviously going to stay in their box and only ever try to attack with long balls to an isolated striker, someone like Fabinho is probably a waste and we could see Keita sit slightly deeper with Ox and another player (Fekir if we sign him, Keita if we don't with Hendo deeper) allowed to harass from the midfield for example. In games where we expect a more physical fight from the start, Trent and and Firmino might make way for Solanke and Gomez to give more of a physical presence and be more effective at shielding our quick runners and knocking high balls into their path.

Every team has their best XI, but we need to get out of the mindset of 'first XI' and start thinking about a versatile squad who can think more tactically than just doing what we want to do better than they do what they want to do. Which is why I'm so gutted Buvac doesn't look like he's returning (or at least, not any time soon), because from the sounds of interviews over the years it seems like he was the most tactically minded of our coaches and if he stayed, he'd finally be looking at a time period where his view could carry weight because our squad and tactics aren't entirely dictated by player fitness.


3.) 07 Jun 2018 15:05:46
People still underestimating aoc. He's been a star of the Premier league for 6 years, playing at the highest level and he's going to lose his place to a couple of players who have done well in the poxy French league. Don't get me wrong I rate fekir and Fabhinio but I don't think players like Henderson and the ox will be stepping down without a fight and I would never again bet against aoc becoming a star like he did last season.


4.) 07 Jun 2018 15:41:11
I reckon Gerrard should make a cheeky bid for origi.


 

 

25 May 2018 11:14:14
The anticipation is becoming unbearable. I doubt I’m the only person sat in work doing very little as my mind is focused on other things.

One thing I would like to share which I find interesting. I was born in 1989 during the season we last won the league. I never really liked football as a child/ teenager until I found the pub life at around 17. The first full match I watched was the Champions league final in Istanbul in 2006, whilst I sat there with the pint that my slightly older friends had to buy for me and watched one of the greatest comebacks in history I was hooked on this sport and this club.

5 months ago, on the 3rd of January 2018, my girlfriend gave birth to my firstborn Son Alexander (Xander) . I’m quite a logical thinking un-superstitious science loving atheist so it could only be purely coincidental but still a beautifully crafted coincidence for Liverpool to win a major trophy in the same year he was born like they did when his dad was born 29 years ago.

Maybe it’s the lack of sleep, waking up at 4 in the morning to make a bottle and lull a screaming infant back to sleep or maybe it’s having to listen to Chelsea, Utd and City fans banging on about all the trophies they have won in the last 12 years I have been supporting Liverpool but other than the little gift I was graced with in January, I have never wanted anything more than for our boys to win this competition.

Let’s bring that trophy back home and establish ourselves back among the elite where we belong!


1.) 25 May 2018 11:36:06
Great stry noshbag, I'm also trying to think of every 'sign' from on high that its our year again!

BTW, was 2005 in Istanbul, so you were only 16 ;-)


2.) 25 May 2018 11:46:31
Be careful mate - if we go on to win, fellow posters might be demanding you have a child every year to help us push for major honours!


3.) 25 May 2018 11:46:59
My first game was Istanbul too. I was about 11 I think. I didn't even play football befire then as i quit at about 7 to focus on martial arts.

I remember watching the FA cup final a year later when I understood things a bit more and I just went absolutely nuts when Gerrard equalised in the dying moments.

This club is my life and It has been for pretty much as long as I can remember. I'm certainly not alone in feeling that way either. We are Liverpool!


4.) 25 May 2018 11:50:33
You are completely right Zeddicus, I was 16 ;) …. shhhhh.


5.) 25 May 2018 12:04:11
Enjoying these posts,

I was born in 89 too. My dad took me to my first match when i was 7, watched us beat MyPa-47 in a European match. Hooked since that day.

Istanbul was memorable for so many reasons. I missed the first half as I was 'preoccupied' with my then gf (for the first time if you get me, took more like 45 seconds than 45 mins)

Anyway was convinced it was my fault we were loosing for not watching. Then watched us turn it around - best night of my life at the time.

So don't worry boys if we are loosing at half time I'll ask my wife for a new 'first' and we will surely turn it around #an*l ;)

Not quite as sentimental as your story Noshbag.


6.) 25 May 2018 12:09:52
Allerton, I wouldn't bother mate. That's not all it is "cracked" up to be. Maybe get a couple of her friends to come over, and play in the hole behind a front 3. That sounds like a much better "first". If she cares about You, she'll say yes.


7.) 25 May 2018 12:12:07
May I suggest, Allerton, that you should have been avoiding any nuptials since we got through to the final. Just to be on the safe side, like!


8.) 25 May 2018 12:48:21
MK I've tried that one, apparently her sisters don't count as friends in this scenario.

Zed don't worry like a boxer before a prize fight I have everything bottled up, ready for that champagne moment when Bobby scores a no-look and I will explode.


9.) 25 May 2018 12:58:02
Ed001, this site has changed so much 😂.

{Ed001's Note - I am getting worried...}


10.) 25 May 2018 12:29:08
At half time in 2005, my missus said to me, 'Don't worry I am sure they will come back in the second half. '
I kind of scoffed at her and thought 'what do you know? '.
For obvious reasons I hope we are not having that conversation again tomorrow. But if we are, I may take her more seriously this time.


11.) 25 May 2018 17:40:59
C*ck on the block. this site certainly has changed, think i was about 13 when I started reading haha.


 

 

11 Apr 2018 14:08:29
Quick question for Ed001,

What's your thoughts on Coutinho getting a Champions league medal? Lots of people seem to disagree with it, Thommo included saying "I'd like to think if we do go on to win it that he says no I don't deserve it, I don't care its wrong. "

I can see what they are saying as he only played 5 games for us in the group stages and got 5 goals and 2 assists of which 4 of those goals and both assists came in the 2 games that were 7-0 Demolitions of Spartak and Maribor. So he didn't really make a difference in the long run.

But he did play for us and as a result wasn't allowed to play for Barcelona so I think its only fair that he gets a medal for his (albeit) small service to our champions league run.

{Ed001's Note - if we win it, I really don't see the problem with him getting one. Every player who played for us in the competition should get a medal, no matter how small a part. Plus it is a bit Bullseye-like to show him what he could have won!}


1.) 11 Apr 2018 14:18:03
He should get one as he contributed, if Salah only played 5 games in the group stages and then got injured all season but we still won nobody would be questioning if he should get a medal or not.
Coutinho left to win medals so I think it’s quite fitting that him leaving actually made our team better and enabled him to “win” a medal that he left for. Lol.


2.) 11 Apr 2018 14:49:10
He can have a medal but we won't be getting picked to play in the final 😂.


3.) 11 Apr 2018 15:03:35
I don't think he should to be honest.
He tried to derail our season before it began and then nearly did derail it when he got his move.
I loved him when he was here and wish him well on his new club but him leaving mid season knowing he'd be cup tied for the Champions League shows how little faith he had in our team to progress.
If he didn't think we could win it then why should he benefit if we do?


4.) 11 Apr 2018 15:15:49
Of course he should get it, the tradition is that if he played a part he gets it.

As he chose to jump ship rather than fight out the difficult part, he can be an adult about it and choose to donate it to someone who didn't get one - a coach or someone from the medical team perhaps. It's what I would do certainly considering the limited number issued. But that's his choice and it's up to him how he sees his career and contributions.


5.) 11 Apr 2018 15:19:49
Not only that but he was instrumental in us even qualifying.


6.) 11 Apr 2018 15:22:59
Yes that's true Ron. I hadn't considered that.


7.) 11 Apr 2018 15:44:50
I think we should conventrate on winning it first before we start dishing out the medals.


8.) 11 Apr 2018 15:45:43
I believe that once a player hands in a transfer request, and then leaves his club, then all ties are cut,
he is then an ex player,
so no,
he left us, he should not be entitled to any medal,
so, in the event of us winning another Champions League Final, only players and staff should receive a medal .


9.) 11 Apr 2018 15:48:49
I like to think we’ll win it and dominate Europe for the next decade or so and in that period, Barcelona will come short frequently and at the end of his disappointing what could have been career- he’ll look at that solitary mocking European medal he had barely a hand in winning and it will just eat away at him and many years from now, lying on his death bed with that medal fixed tightly in his withered hands he’ll. okay sorry. That was a little dark.


10.) 11 Apr 2018 16:51:35
Quite a few sounding bitter above, beginning to resemble the neighbours fellas.


11.) 11 Apr 2018 16:58:36
I think it’s more the raw hurt still caused by Coutinhos behavior while pushing for the move. In truth I doubt any fan would actually have any issue at all with the lad getting a medal. We’d all be too deliriously happy with the trophy.


12.) 11 Apr 2018 19:14:43
I would invite him onto the open top bus parade and lend him a kit as well as give him a medal, why not? Hahaha.


13.) 12 Apr 2018 14:14:19
aoe - a bit dark? What counts as very dark to you?!


 

 

04 Apr 2018 22:36:59
Couldn't be happier with that result tonight.

The fact we conceded no goals was more important than the 3 we did score in my opinion.

If we score 1 goal which we are more than capable of then they have to score 5 to win.

2 downsides of tonight is that salah was injured and regardless of whether it was precautionary or not, we have a weekend derby and then the second leg this week. Even if his injury only keeps him out for a week, we need this player at his best to help with these games.

The second downside is Henderson being banned for the return leg at the Etihad, we need a modicum of control in the next game and he is the only player capable of doing so in the midfield. He will be sorely missed in my opinion.

Great result but there is still a lot of.


1.) 04 Apr 2018 23:13:16
Spot on, Nosh. Either for Salah, I was not expecting him to play in the derby anyway so no harm done there for me BUT the hope is that he can start in the second leg. Hendo is a big miss for sure and also, the hope is Can is fit which is touch and go. But before that, let's just enjoy the victory tonight as the game was breathe-taking.


 

 

30 Jan 2018 11:10:33
{Eds Note: If you didn't read it, Noshbag wrote an excellent article - LFC Senior Squad Regulars - A Statistical Analysis: Part 1: Goalkeepers and Defenders


1.) 30 Jan 2018 11:45:58
Nice article that thanks. Agree with most of it although generous with your C for Moreno. Highlights how mediocre our back 5 are. Just think what we could achieve with a solid defence and no.1.


2.) 30 Jan 2018 12:12:22
I really enjoyed it. As you'd expect with such a long post, their are a few parts i disagreed on. However it was brilliantly articulated and kept me fully engaged throughout.

I look forward to the next instalments, Noshbag.


3.) 30 Jan 2018 12:57:00
Really good post and looking forward to the next installment, although something that interests me is the 'errors leading to goals' category. How is that defined? Because I can think of dozen's of times opposition has scored because Mings made a basic error with a fairly loose definition like inexplicably going to ground, or forgoing an easy clearance with his boot to try and catch it etc. But then if there is a might tighter definition like dropping the ball in front of a striker, I'm surprised he's had 6. Can anyone clarify what this figure actually refers to?


4.) 30 Jan 2018 14:50:02
Noshbag that is a very informative read. I agree with every grade. last year Moreno would be an E but he deserves his C he has been better than most this year.

De Gea stats are incredible.


5.) 01 Feb 2018 14:37:46
Thank you guys, I'm hoping the next instalment will take less than 2 months but there is only so much I can do whilst sat at my desk trying to make it look like I'm actually working!

To answer your post hjickle, I believe they are considered "severe" errors rather than "soft" errors. Those particular figures came directly from the premier league website.

I would have thought if they were including "soft" errors as well then Lovren would have hit the 10 - 20 mark and I dread to think of what mignolets would be. I'm not 100% sure on this though sorry.


 

 

 

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14 Mar 2018 13:44:34
He is 5ft 8. he's a "little fekir"


 

 

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11 Jan 2018 10:56:47
Thank you for the update Macca, I'm sure everyone would agree your insight is extremely appreciated by everyone on here.
Could I be cheeky and just ask what position this player plays in?


 

 

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10 Jan 2018 23:05:18
Even if this were true, all bids should be rejected. We are not a feeder club for Real and Barca. We don't need money in the bank but we do need good players.

I'm sure Southampton are saying the same thing about us but the difference is that over the last 20 or so years we have been title contenders bar 4 or 5 bad seasons. We should be aiming to be as powerful as Real Madrid or Barcelona like we once were, not settling for mediocrity by selling every decent player we have, even if it is for grossly over inflated bags of cash.


 

 

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08 Jan 2018 11:07:47
@ Whz

Ok fair enough, Dudek and Arbeloa are hardly big losses but you have mentioned every other player on that list.

Sterling was definitely a big loss, he was replaced by Ibe who didn't quite cut it and the club suffered on the wings because of it. It is only now with the addition of Mane and Salah that we have decent wide options and we are doing much better.


 

 

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08 Jan 2018 10:28:39
Coutinho is a player we did not want to lose. Firmino is a player we cannot afford to lose. Keep this one happy at all costs I say.


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2018 13:56:03
The clear answer here is the winning teams Goalkeeper from the charity match.

Im pretty sure Klopp will be watching the stream.


 

 

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13 Jun 2018 09:16:23
Im not so sure about his medical history ;)


 

 

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25 May 2018 11:50:33
You are completely right Zeddicus, I was 16 ;) …. shhhhh.


 

 

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11 May 2018 14:40:55
I would definitely go see that MK, 2 of the greatest for sure.

As for Sturridge, unfortunately for the lad I think his career is being forced and I don't ever see him getting back to full fitness. On his day he WAS one of the best strikers and as you say could put 25 away a season but even if he was fully fit, I think those days are gone.


 

 

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17 Apr 2018 12:55:19
Flops: I've gone for top 6 teams as its fairer to judge players who are playing badly around better team mates.

Mignolet
Zappacosta, Luiz, Lindelof, Monreal
Sissoko, Bakayoko, Xhaka
Lamella, Lacazette, Sanchez.