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01 Jul 2017 03:46:07
Hi Ed002,

Did you confirm that Liverpool have agreed a fee with RBL for Keita in a post about Laimer to RBL which seems to have been taken down?



{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool has not agreed any fee with RBL over Naby Keita and unless something has changed overnight they have yet to make any offer to RBL.}

1.) 01 Jul 2017 08:43:45
The tabloids are loving it, looks like this Keita news is going on overdrive this weekend.

2.) 01 Jul 2017 09:08:05
When the news is that Liverpool are 'preparing' a bid for the player it just shows how bad the leakage situation is at Liverpool. I'm not sure any other club has this problem to the same extent. Ed please can we have you opinion on who is to blame for the porous nature of information-security at our club and what can be done to fix it?

{Ed002's Note - Well it was Klopp who briefed the press - so him. As for the "preparing a bid" I have no idea what that means. Are they going from sofa to sofa looking for cash? Is some one checking the spelling on the fax?}

3.) 01 Jul 2017 09:39:11
ed002 why do you have to try and be funny and blunt about the wording people use? obviously you know what the guy meant.

{Ed002's Note - I answered his question - it was KLOPP who briefed several members of the press so he is to be held accountable. Are you some sort of halfwit? You tell me what "preparing a bid" means then.}

4.) 01 Jul 2017 09:52:15
Haha, thanks Ed. I agree. Maybe they're wrapping up a cake and some prezzies with shiny paper and ribbons and hiring an old Spitfire to drop it over Leipzig. Not sure RB will appreciate the gesture.

And thanks Gayfish, but he wasn't being rude towards me, I was only using the phrase in the press, which makes little sense to me.

5.) 01 Jul 2017 09:58:17
It clearly means sat with the transfer committee, talking about what would be an acceptable first offer! Prepare the £15 million offer from liverpool! 😂.

6.) 01 Jul 2017 10:12:01
I recall that Klopp said that talks were ongoing regarding transfer targets. I don't recall him talking specifically about who so I'm not sure how that makes him accountable or even what he'd be accountable for.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. The talks with van Dijk were the result of an illegal approach from Liverpool and Klopp briefed certain members of the press in order to unsettle targets. If he also made illegal approaches to the three other players then it would be reasonable to expect retribution. This has been done to death.}

7.) 01 Jul 2017 10:15:09
I would imagine the powers that be sit round a table and decide how much the player is worth and if they are prepared to pay the asking price.

{Ed002's Note - What "asking price" would that be?}

8.) 01 Jul 2017 10:26:26
Even I felt it was odd when late last season, Klopp was saying that "talks were on going with prospective targets". I have never heard a manager say that in public regarding transfers. I do not recall him ever mentioning players by name tho I could be wrong but even if no names are mentioned, it still seems odd which goes hand in hand with the tapping up nonsense he seems seems unable to stop.

{Ed002's Note - He briefed members of the press and gave them four names in order to unsettle the players. Why do you want to drag this all up again?}

9.) 01 Jul 2017 10:49:12
what do you want posters to do? know exactly how transfers work step by step and know exactly what wording to use?

{Ed002's Note - It has been explained to posters how transfer work and most are fine with that. Perhaps you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself if you read posts on the site and searched for such things.}

10.) 01 Jul 2017 10:50:18
Just a quick question:

Who is really invovled on transfer talks with the player/ clubs? Surely it can't be just the manager. Because everything i mostly read on here regarding the tapping up situation or anything transfer talks related really is about Klopp doing stuff.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp was the one who met with van Dijk and then continued communicating with him. The two letters warning the club over illegal approaches last summer both related to approaches made directly by Klopp.}

11.) 01 Jul 2017 10:57:27
"talks were on going with prospective targets". Internal discussions targeting certain players nothing wrong with that.

{Ed002's Note - It is like some sort of joke. So you think Liverpoool did not illegally approach van Dijk? Isn't that a very stupid position to take?}

12.) 01 Jul 2017 11:19:09
When we get charged by the FA for an illegal approach then I'll believe we did. Until then Ed even you can't claim we did anything wrong. Innocent until proven guilty and we have not been found guilty of anything.

{Ed002's Note - I am sorry. The club issued a grovelling apology and withdrew intersest in van Dijk. You are some sort of idiot if you are still in denial of this. And don't forget that club are already serving one ban for making an illegal approach.}

13.) 01 Jul 2017 11:25:21
I may have missed a post concerning this but who were the two letters from and about who? I know this must go on all the time but isn't Klopp treading a fine line?

{Ed002's Note - It was dealt with last year and unimportant. Klopp is well over the line - this has all be dealt with recently but again all of those morons in denial are out.}

14.) 01 Jul 2017 11:28:01
Could that not just be because they respect the position of Southampton so apologised for any misunderstanding and withdrew their interest to avoid any animosity between the clubs? Nothing has been proven, I'd argue you'd have to be some kind of idiot to condemn someone without enough evidence to convict. Isn't that what the law is based on in all walks of life, not just football?

{Ed002's Note - A complaint sits on file with the Premier League. Why do you want to drag up all of this yet again?}

15.) 01 Jul 2017 11:33:23
I don't Ed I'm just putting another spin on it. At the end of the day we've not been found guilty of any wrong doing regarding VVD. I think we should accept this, move on and stop bashing the club and Klopp when in actual fact according to the FA who are the law in our league we have no case to answer.

{Ed002's Note - There is no "spin", the club and Klopp get "bashed" because people like you keep dragging it up. I have no idea what the FA has to do with this. You really don't get how bad the club and the manager have been behaving.}

16.) 01 Jul 2017 11:34:37
I'm not sure how anyone can deny what happened given the club itself issued an apology, it's like you all live with your heads in the sand. I love the club and Klopp but poor mistakes have been made. To be honest I'm not sure why we're dragging all of this up again.

17.) 01 Jul 2017 11:42:20
Liverpool's embarrassing apology to Fulham sees Clint Dempsey tapping-up complaint dropped. 2012.

Liverpool banned from signing academy players. (Stoke 12yr old)

All this is Klopps fault is it. Obviously a fundamental issue within liverpool Im sure the idiot transfer committee or agent has badly advised Klopp.

{Ed002's Note - You do want to drag it out then. Nobody has blamed Klopp for either of those matters although he could yet be dragged in to the issue over the ex-Stoke player whose career the club screwed up if that goes to court as planned. He wasn't even at the club when there was tapping up when there was the tapping up of Dempsey, nor when the club had Gerrard tap up players on their behalf. Klopp is far from an innocent party but of course you want to blame the "idiot transfer committee" or "agent" and absolve him. This really is the sort of nonsense that does indeed make some fans a complete laughing stock.}

18.) 01 Jul 2017 12:48:50
Why doesn't the club put a gagging order on Klopp with respect to other team's players?
I don't get it, it's like they want him to keep doing it.

19.) 01 Jul 2017 13:11:58
Thanks, Ed for the clarification and for full disclosure, I have and will never defend the club or Klopp for any tapping up issues we and he have had. What he has done is flat out disgraceful and should be reprimanded internally by the owners. And to those defending the club or Klopp and deflecting on this issue, you seriously need to knock it off with your pathetic excuses and arguments for defending the indefensible. It is becoming pathetic and like Ed02, I am fed up with it.

20.) 01 Jul 2017 13:41:35
Just for the record Ed I didn't drag anything up if you look at the thread it was being discussed before I got involved. It just makes me laugh that we've got so called Liverpool fans bashing the club and manager for an issue they know very little about. If we were found guilty of tapping up and the details made public then we could all have an opinion good or bad. Until then there has been no proven guilt so we need to forget it and move on. There's no point criticising base on hearsay and half truths.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have been found guilty - you seem to grasp any of this.}

21.) 01 Jul 2017 14:08:10
I bet some of you wish you'd "prepared" your postes more! So just to summarise; Southampton are out of order!

22.) 01 Jul 2017 16:25:07
Are we, honestly, still talking about this? I leave the page for a week and it's still happening? Klopp was a jerk. LFC have been jerks.
We need to buck our ideas up and do the right thing by other clubs and their players whilst we still have some clubs who want to deal with us.
It's not difficult. We know the rules. Break them, we pay the price.
Fully deserved as well.

23.) 01 Jul 2017 17:02:41
I'm sure we were done for tapping up Christian ziege all them years ago. Were masters of tapping up. Haha. Not good tho.

24.) 01 Jul 2017 22:26:42
Blimey, this thread has got a little rancorous. Just like the good old days!
Liverpool has picked up a reputation for sailing close to the wind over several years and Klopp seems to be continuing that trend. Naughty, naughty. However, singling out LFC and its fans for special treatment is not really fair. When compared to several top-flight continental European teams, Liverpool is relatively clean. Relatively. And as for Chelsea.
This is hardly the most heavily regulated industry in the world and is dominated by individual owners whose staggering wealth has been almost always been gathered by questionable means, assisted by dodgy advisers, agents and others.
I would suggest we move on from this subject and focus on the tiny nuggets of reality amongst the torrent of transfer speculation.
And "done deals", of course.

25.) 02 Jul 2017 12:21:00
Ed002 can i clarfy something that may have caused the initial confusion at the start of this rehashing. Where you say briefed journalists I'm reading that as the old fashioned quiet chat, unofficial, off the record type of thing not formal press conferences. Would that be correct and why people are struggling to see where Klopp has briefed the press?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, a number of journalistes were briefed by Klopp and given the names of four players in an attempt to unsettle the players.}

26.) 02 Jul 2017 17:20:53
Thanks fot clarifying Ed002.

27.) 03 Jul 2017 01:08:52
Some facts for you kids:
1. What the club has done is shameful. No other word to describe it.
2. We have done that before, plenty of times.
3. Other clubs do it all the time, but that is not an excuse.
4. We do not want the same done to us, although it happened (e: Suarez)
5. A manager does what the club allows him to. He knows very well that this is against the rules, so he could only have done it with unofficial backing.
6. Players and former players have been involved in this activity as well.



11 Apr 2017 21:41:24
Steven Gerrard is set to manage the U18s next season. Anyone know how he's been getting on and whether this is a deserved promotion for him?




21 May 2016 11:06:55
Hi Ed002,

With Sakho facing an imminent ban, do you think Liverpool could turn to Sule? I think you recommended him as a player we should/ could target, and he seems very highly rated in Germany.



{Ed002's Note - I would have had him in preference to Matip but right now LIverpool are not looking at him.}

1.) 21 May 2016 21:11:35
Thanks for the reply Ed, would've preferred Sule on the reports I've heard/ read but hopefully Matip comes in a proves to be an absolute legend.

2.) 21 May 2016 21:17:05
Matip is in the official Bundesliga team of the season. Not seen much of him but seems like he is highly rated in Germany.

3.) 21 May 2016 22:15:47
I think he'll be a revelation alongside Lovren.

4.) 21 May 2016 22:36:02
to be fair ed i think saving the transfer fee makes matip the better deal plus he has more experience u have said we are in a lot of debt.

5.) 22 May 2016 02:21:12
The mail are reporting interest in sule.

6.) 22 May 2016 03:09:59
Apparently sule and tahs agents were at the final. Sakho will be kept. Skrtel toure ilori wisdom jones will be sold. Need then 2 cbs as gomez will cover fullbacks.

7.) 22 May 2016 04:59:29
Voted into Bundesliga team of the year. there's a lot of centre backs in Bundesliga, believe it or not. He must be good.

8.) 22 May 2016 07:23:48
I'm sold on Sule, want him to replace Skrtel.

9.) 22 May 2016 07:38:47
I think with the possible outgoings we would have Lovren sahko (banned), matip and probably toure as our centre backs with Lucas as a utility centre back/ defensive midfielder (I could also see Lucas going tbh) . Is Lucas was to leave then I think we would definitely need a centre back as it is, it would be typical of us not to get one in even though we need more quality in there. I don't think matip is an improvement on what we have already from what I've seen since we got him.

10.) 22 May 2016 14:04:53
I watch bundesliga regularly and matip is easily a 20 million defender. Has a great partnership with howedes, he's very good in the air, strong and likes to bring it out and play a bit. A poor man's Hummels if you would. He ain't going to be no bench warmer.

11.) 22 May 2016 15:31:47
People seem to be forgetting Joe Gomez, is he not a CB?

I know he played LB at the start of the season but thought his natural position was CB.

12.) 22 May 2016 16:41:46
Sule was mentioned by Ed002 ages ago. I think it's a good shout.



01 Jun 2015 11:01:30
Hi Ed002,

I remember you had this fantastic list of all our targets (or at least the ones you know of), but I was wondering whether you could provide an update on that list?

Thanks in advance.


{Ed002's Note - There are some minor updates but much of this will change by the summer and there are major dependencies on (a) players leaving (b) how much money the club can raise through sales, (c) any change in senior management or the management structure. However, there is known to be (or have recently been) some level of interest in the following players:

GK: Marshall and Bogdan have attracted confirmed recent attention and are viable replacements for Jones. Thoughts seem to have moved on completely from Patricio, Ochoa, Neto (won't happen), Sportiello (unconfirmed to some extent as Atalanta and the player heard about the interest from an Italian journalist), Romero, Ryan and Ruddy right now. The club have also looked at many others including Mattia Perin - who is financial beyond Liverpool.
RB: Wisdom will return and there is aa new deal for Flanagan and Toure. But if Manquillo and Johnson both leave then the club may look for a new RB - I don't see this as a proiority. If Rodgers remains as manager it is not out of the question that Ibe may be tried in a wing back role. The likes of Adriano and Alves have been mentioned by agents as possible options but such players will be expensive and are unlikely to end in anything but tears. Danilo was looked at but certainly won't happen. Folks, I assume because of something in the press, have been asking about Janmaat moving to Liverpool. I don't know of interest but I am pretty sure Newcastle would not want to sell.
LB: Sam Byram has been watched - a move to Liverpool seems unlikely. Hard again to see LB as a priority, particularly withwith the system being played.
CB: A new deal has been given to Toure. I doubt a CB is a priority - at least not before the club clear out some of those already on the books (Skrtel, Lovren, Sakho, Ilori, Coates, Paez, Lloyd Jones and Kolo Touré).
MF: Milner remains very much on the cards. I understand from an ex-German international that Liverpool were very keen on Lars Stindl but he has decided to reject the interest of Liverpool and will move to Borussia Mönchengladbach in the summer. Khedira (won't happen), Pjanic (outrageously expensive), Vazquez (interest seems to have gone). Even though he has very recently extended his contract, Inter are willing to sell Kovacic (at the right price)and have spoken with Barcelona, Arsenal, Liverpool and Hertha Berlin - the Liverpool offer would need to be doubled to give any sort of chance of a deal. Inter now say they will keep Kovacic as no deal seems possible and will make another player available. However, Barcelona will return with their convoluted offer for him. If Liverpool want to do something it will take a significant increase on their previous offer. Filipe Anderson has been watched but nothing will happen with Liverpool.
F/W:Right now it is something like this for the players that I understand have been looked at:
Mandzukic - Someone representing Liverpool has approached his agent, but as of this time, not Atletico.
Ings - every chance this will go through.
Benteke - interest has returned.
Vietto - talking to Atletico Madrid regarding replacing Griezmann and was hoping on Real Madrid turning to him - has made it clear he wants a move to Atletico - and this has made Real Madrid look elsewhere.
Heung Min Son (I suspect it would be very difficult to make happen as he seems very happy where he is and will be playing in the Champions League)
Carlos Vela (looked at recently but nothing more)
Aubameyang (looked at and there may be interest from Liverpool - he is keen on a move to Italy but the most interested side, Juventus, are now out of the running)
Gameiro (his stock is on the rise but Liverpool have had no recent contact (according to a representative of another interested club)).
Baez (Liverpool have recently been told to say if they are still interested in Baez or not - and if they are to make an offer which is much improved over that offered to Juventud previously - I understand that there has been no response and Juventud are now in talks with another side regarding a transfer - this is probably one to forget now).
Kishna (all English interest has gone or never materialised according to De Boer).
Lacazette (another English side met with Lyon about Lacazette and a number of other issues on April 9 and any move this summer, particularly to England, is not viable right now - Aulas has mocked rumours that Liverpool could by the player).
Firmino (he will most probably move with a number of clubs having made formal approaches, and Manchester City and Inter having had formal discussions with Hoffenheim).
Depay (moving elsewhere).
Bakkali (interest will have gone).
Andre Ayew (a free agent who Liverpool enquired about last summer - looks to be heading elsewhere)
Walcott (if Sterling were to leave then a move for Walcott may be considered).
Cheryshev (if Sterling were to leave then a move for Cheryshev may be considered).

1.) 01 Jun 2015 12:58:26
Very interesting Ed! Thanks very much!

2.) 01 Jun 2015 21:51:39
FSG wake up & stop paying double for absolute rubbish. Then baulking at a bargain price for proper talent.
Get some real players in. Here is what a squad brimming with youth, potential and most importantly the requisite skills/ability/desire/determination would look like, players willing to work hard & succeed.

Alexandre Lacazette
Paulo Dybala
Luciano Vietta

Asier Illaramhendi
Mateo Kovacic
Ross Barkley
Mario Suarez
Max Meyer
Axel Witsel

Andre Ayew
Julian Draxler
Heung Min Son
Hakan Calhanoglu
Kevin DeBruyne
Iker Muniain
Lucas Moura

Inigo Martinez
Simon Kjaer
Stephan De Vrij
Kyriakos Papodopolous
Fabian Schar
Ricardo Rodriguez
Mateo Di Sciglio

Andre Der Stegen

No Messi. Ronaldo, Pogba, James Rodriguez, Marcos Reus, Phillip Lahm etc because no realistic chance of them ever coming to LFC. But we could get a couple of those listed, at least

3.) 02 Jun 2015 01:36:12
Those mostly sound better than last summer's dealings. Would hope we don't sign Benteke, but overall it's an encouraging list of possibilities.

I still think we need to look to a player of Benzema's quality. In my humble view, we really do need a quality, proven goal scorer.

Thanks Ed002.

4.) 02 Jun 2015 08:15:26
Haha, possibilities? Get off your cloud and keep the fantasy football on the wishes page please.

5.) 01 Jun 2015 13:01:07
So what's all this about a bid for Clyne and an upcoming improved bid? Untrue Ed?

And Garbutt for LB please. :)



07 Apr 2015 10:25:04
Hi Ed001,

Now that it seems like we won't make the Champions League, do you still think we could be able to lure Klopp and Monchi to Liverpool? Also, would Vietto still be a realistic option? I really hope we get these three men into the club because frankly, I've lost faith in Rodgers and the transfer committee, and I really hope we move on our current strikers (Balo, Lambert and Borini) and have a more potent attack in Sturridge, Vietto, Origi and Sinclair (if given a chance).



{Ed001's Note - if we got Monchi in, I think that would be a far more important addition than a head coach. Klopp has publicly stated his affection for Liverpool, I don't see him joining us, but the club would have to be mad not to make an all out effort to persuade him to take charge. Vietto is less realistic without Champions League than with it, as are all additions really.}

1.) 07 Apr 2015 11:33:37
which striker will be a more realistic option and we are interested?

{Ed002's Note - There is plenty of time still but Ings remains viable but there is interest from elsewhere. Again, Gameiro might provide a viable alternative.}




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07 Jun 2018 12:31:00
Hi eds,

Away from all the Butland/ Alisson talk, do you know of the plans for the 3rd choice keeper? I imagine Ward, Migs and Bogdan will leave, so will we be looking to sign an experienced keeper with a view to coaching (like we did with Manninger) or are we looking to promote a youngster (perhaps Grabara? ) to the first team as third choice keeper?



{Ed002's Note - Not worth the grief from one of the trolls for me to say anything about this.}

1.) 07 Jun 2018 13:20:37
I think we are trying to get in someone experienced.

2.) 07 Jun 2018 13:12:40
Fair enough, hope you’re having a nice day.

3.) 07 Jun 2018 13:16:11
Shame that 002 but compleatly understand why you don't want to answer hopefully we can get some pearls of wisdom out of you again without the 🔔🔚 brigade commenting.



27 May 2018 16:53:18
Hi all, I don't normally do long posts and I expect some people to disagree with me but here goes.

Last night was a bit of a disappointment, to be honest. Whilst I didn't expect us to beat Real (comfortably), I was quietly confident we could score a few goals and give them a game. To lose in such a way is gutting because everything that could've gone wrong for us, did go wrong. We conceded three 'freak' goals and by 'freak' goals, I mean goals you just don't expect to happen in any game and particularly not the biggest game in club football.

Of course, the man who played a big part in two of those goals is Loris Karius. But before I get into it, I have to firstly say it is absolutely vile that so many fans are sending death threats to Karius and wishing his children to have cancer. Football is, after all, just a game. To wish death upon a man who has just had the worst night of his life is completely out of order and I urge any and all football fans to call out those who have resorted to such actions.

I understand Karius's errors have provoked strong emotions. I myself sat in disbelief as the ball trickled in off Benzema as the people in the pub I was in started laughing. The last goal he let in had a much more subdued reaction because I think even a lot of fans of rival clubs who came to watch the match felt sympathy for him. And when Karius went over in tears to apologise to the fans in the stadium, the pub was uncomfortably quiet.

The errors that he made were errors you just don't expect at this level. I don't know what was going on in his head for the first goal. Maybe Ramos's elbow to his head that went unpunished right before affected his concentration. Maybe the pressure got to him. No one really knows and I suspect Karius might not even know himself. For the third goal, he lost track of the flight of a knuckleball which can happen to many keepers, and with his confidence shot, I'm not surprised it ended up in the back of the net.

Having said that, now's the time to support Karius more than ever. He knows as well as anyone else those were huge mistakes. Unforgivable, some would say. But I don't believe so. Not because I'm Karius's number one fan and I'm blindly supporting him. I'm not excusing his errors because that's what they are and no one can deny that. I'm saying that because there's almost always a chance at redemption in football. Karius is 24, if he can ride through this storm, he could still have at least another ten years in his career at a second chance. But the only way he can get through this disaster is if we, as fans, give him our support.

Because what do people expect to achieve by slagging him off? Will we be able to turn back time and run onto the pitch just as Karius is about to throw the ball out and disrupt the match if we throw enough insults at him on social media? Slagging him off in such a moment is akin to kicking a man when he's down. Now, I'm not saying we can't criticise his performance. We can do it, but only when it's constructive and not when it's just strings of abuse. Calling for him to get sacked or to get sold immediately is not helpful to anybody. The coaching team had already identified the goalkeeping position as a position to improve before the final but in the case that the club fail to secure a replacement and Karius stays, do you think he'll do better if the fans helped rebuild his confidence or if we continued to destroy him over a night that will probably haunt him for the rest of his life? It might be true that Karius isn't good enough to bring us forward, but that's a decision for Klopp and the club, not us. Alisson or Butland might be better, but they're not Liverpool players right now and Karius is, and it is not our job as fans to rip apart our own player.

We pride ourselves as the best fans in the world but when we can't even support a player who's younger than many fans and has had a terrible night, what right do we have to sing 'You'll Never Walk Alone'?

And in truth, despite Karius's mistakes, did we deserve anything out of the game? I'd argue we didn't. Real Madrid were better than us on the day, more experienced and now winners of three Champions Leagues in a row. Yes, we were all over them before Salah went off but we didn't capitalise. We barely tested Navas. We seemed to retreat into our shells when Salah went off, giving Marcelo and Carvajal/ Nacho the freedom to attack us. Bale scored a CL final goal that rivalled Zidane's against Leverkusen all those years ago. Mane hit the post but we were sloppy and sent aimless long balls forward. We didn't seem to have much of a gameplan after Salah went off and the substitutions made were head-scratching. Can and Lallana both had not started a game in ages and lacked match fitness but were expected to come on and change the game. Ramos got away with multiple challenges that might or might not have been deliberate. In all honesty, a lot of what happened yesterday was due to the team's inexperience. Real have won four of the last five CL finals they played in. They took apart top defences in Atletico and Juventus. Our team consisted of a player who was relegated last season, the first teenage defender to start a CL final since the 1970s and absolutely no (European competition) medals between the rest of them.

We lost and that's gutting, but we lost a CL final. After years of not qualifying for the competition. We blew teams away including the PL champions on the way here. We played well for periods in the final itself. And we managed to retain our position in the top 4 in the PL despite our run.

What I'm saying is that there's hope. Last night was a bit of a learning experience for every single player and I'm sure it will be used as motivation for future campaigns. They've grown so much from when they first joined us and I'm proud of them. We have improved this term and if we have a good summer, who knows what might happen next season?


1.) 27 May 2018 17:06:10
Great post.

{Ed0333's Note - I agree superb post. Nailed it.

2.) 27 May 2018 17:12:54
Well said dude. A good post.

3.) 27 May 2018 17:03:54
You get one opportunity each year to win 4 trophies.
Karius is not good enough for us to top the league.
That gives 3 possible chances to win something. Can we trust karius in a one off game like a final?
After last night's performance clearly not.

{Ed002's Note - So it is all Karius' fault that Liverpool cannot win anything?

4.) 27 May 2018 17:48:08
Absolutely not ed002, he actually made some good saves last night in my opinion.

Liverpool under our last 2 managers prioritise league position and Champions league over other trophies. This is because we don’t have the squad to fully compete in all 4 trophies.
We don’t win the league because we don’t have a strong enough squad over 38 games and we didn’t win the champions league because we couldn’t cope with injuries.

Generally speaking we are still playing catch-up. Our fringe players are not good enough. Part of that is because we don’t rotate the sqaud when the opportunity is there.

{Ed002's Note - Clearly Lanland and many, many others think otherwise. It is the usual witch hunt for a fan base obsessed with the blame culture. The "fringe players" and youngsters have not shown that they are not good enough because they have not been given sufficient game time.}

5.) 27 May 2018 18:18:29
this is why I stay away from all the social media crap, the lad made a couple of mistakes, as a dad of 4 i know that all kids make mistakes and at 24 in my eyes karius is still growing up, my god this witch hunt is just moronic, I'm sure he's beating himself up enough .

6.) 27 May 2018 18:30:02
100% agree ed002 👍
Ojo got 2 games
Ejaria was a season long unused sub
Grujic never played
Woodburn has had a season away from the first team

I don’t know who’s advising Klopp, maybe losing Buvac will end up as a positive if someone with fresh ideas comes in. Rafa was a master of sqaud rotation. If you want to compete on more than front you have to rotate the squad.

{Ed002's Note - Buvac was the ideas person.}

7.) 27 May 2018 18:46:16
Indeed ed002, so some fresh ideas might help Kloppo with rotation.
Liverpool spending on new fringe players is totally pointless if they don’t play enough. The secret to competing and squad rotation is to keep as many squad players as possible “in form”. Does Pep play his best XI every week?
As a fringe player you can’t just turn up for one game and expect to compete with all these world class players in form. You need to keep your fringe players “match fit” for when they are needed.

Last night we brought on Lallana who was clearly nowhere near match fitness. Timing and running were completely off. Not his fault at all. We were effectively playing with 10 men.
This is more of an issue than Karius making 2 errors. He made some good saves last night.

8.) 27 May 2018 18:57:14
Yeah excellent post. Remember when lovren had a bad spell and we voted him player of the month? It's that type of loyalty that makes me proud to be a red.

9.) 27 May 2018 19:13:26
I agree with the Eds and Ron, Karius was at fault for 2 goals, but Liverpool were second best in the match, after Salah went off. They were outplayed in midfield by a very experienced Real team who know how to win the big matches.
Our squad is too thin, Salah was replaced by a player who has been injured all season and Emre has also been out a while.
Maybe the loss of Buvac has had a serious impact on match preparations and tactics too.
There are several factors that contributed to this defeat, Real Madrid were the better team on the night overall.

10.) 27 May 2018 19:51:25
Ron you say lots of sensible things but I thought that you were really mad when we rotated the side for the Everton game.

Are you saying now that Klopp was right in resting some of the side when we played Everton?

Hope we get two or three quality signings in to give us more options.

Then off we go again and let’s hope we can get some silverware to validate the progress Klopp is making.

11.) 27 May 2018 20:59:19
Rotating is different from resting.

Resting the majority of the team for 1 match doesn’t really change much.
Rotation is changing 1 or 2 players most weeks to keep the whole squad fresh. 1 match hardly keeps them match fit.

I was mad as hell at that derby match. Biggest league game of the season the home derby.



07 May 2018 21:26:55
Hi ed001,

Disappointing match yesterday, but was wondering whether you had done a match review yet? I always look forward to reading them as soon as I wake up but I can't seem to find it today if you have.



{Ed001's Note - oh shoot sorry I completely forgot as I was working on the Worst of the Season Awards. I will have to do it tomorrow, I apologise.}

1.) 07 May 2018 21:43:24
No worries, can't wait to read the Worst of the Season Awards article too!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, that is almost finished now, will just be waiting on the editors to cast their votes now.}

2.) 07 May 2018 21:55:14
Oh brilliant, looking forward to the worst of the season awards, loved the best one.

3.) 07 May 2018 22:21:07
Ahh brilliant Ed can't wait to see that.

4.) 08 May 2018 00:11:54
Fantastic Ed, looking forwards to both.

5.) 08 May 2018 09:06:28
I am really looking forward to this one. When is it due please?

{Ed001's Note - which one? I am just doing the worst of now, should be up today. Then I will have to rewatch our match, so it might be done today or tomorrow at the latest.}

6.) 08 May 2018 10:15:55
We should all zip it and let Ed1 work on this 'Worst of the Season Awards' lol. Looking forward to it Ed mate :)

{Ed001's Note - nearly done, but now I fear you are going to be disappointed!}

7.) 08 May 2018 10:23:49
Lol I doubt that very much mate, I've read tons of your stuff and never have been disappointed in any of it, I doubt I ever will be!

{Ed001's Note - talk about putting pressure on me to perform! Still you won't be as disappointed as the missus, who found out there is a viewing party here for the final game against Brighton which will be attended by some Liverpool legends (Gerrard, McAllister and McManaman) and as it is free I said I would take her as a treat, as I am generous like that. She is all excited and keeps asking me if Bobby will be there. I am not sure how to explain this to her without ruining her excitement. She even got her son a Bobby kit as he is her favourite. Bless her, not sure she quite understands what is actually happening though.}

8.) 08 May 2018 10:41:02
'as it is free I said I would take her as a treat' hahahaha! I love it mate lol. Wow though, what an event to go to, I'm jealous lol god help you when she realises Bobby won't be there though, rather you than me mate. I can just imagine you been there and her asking 'So where's Bobby then' and your like ' I don't know, he should be here! ' thinking fml. god you got me there mate, I laughed at the most awkward of moments, you know when your meant to be serious, I read your post and lost it, you bugger lol.

{Ed001's Note - I would say I am sorry but I would be lying if I did.}



06 May 2018 23:15:18
I don't really want to comment on the Chelsea game because the negativity is so bloody over the top. Did I really read it right? #KloppOut? Jesus.

Re the Fekir talk, I think he's a fantastic player and would fit in with our style of play. My only concerns are his injury problems (he seems to have gotten over them which shows great mental strength) and also where would he fit in? He's not going to sign to sit on the bench so is Firmino who has just signed a long-term contract going to make way? Salah, our most effective player this season? Or are we going to change the system that's helped us score over a hundred goals this season?


1.) 07 May 2018 00:39:55
Isn't he an attacking midfielder who could play behind that front three? In any case, if he was more of a forward I would think the front three would be rotated based on form and fitness.

2.) 07 May 2018 00:58:34
Yes, he also plays as a striker and a right winger (I think he can slot in on the left as well but he's not quite as effective there) . As we don't play with a no. 10, he'll either play up front or on the right which I just don't see happening with Firmino and Salah. Even with rotation, I can't imagine Fekir agreeing to join us without guaranteed first team football, not to mention he'd probably be the one to be left out in the biggest games of the season.

3.) 07 May 2018 05:28:32
Fekir is absolutely quality, and we should be doing everything in our power to get him (even if it means negotiating with Lyon’s owner) . I’d hardly class him as injury-prone, either, he’s played 58 league games in the past two seasons. Him and Keita compared to our current midfield is an enormous step up in quality.

4.) 07 May 2018 15:41:18
I don't see where the problem is. Play him just behind the front 3 (and backed up with Ox depending on the situation) . And if one of Mane or Salah need a rest then slot Fekir in, also. His style of dribbling and passing in tight spaces is exactly what we need against the teams that park the bus against us. Play him just ahead of Keita and one of Hendo/ Ceballos/ Wijnaldum.



30 Apr 2018 20:14:07
Well this is poor timing, losing AOC, then Ed002 and finally Buvac at this crucial juncture in our season! Can only hope we remain focused and work towards nabbing that top 4 position and winning the Champions League.


1.) 30 Apr 2018 21:30:10
We lost 002? What happened there?

2.) 30 Apr 2018 21:38:52
SPOILER: Ed002 is Buvac 😲.

3.) 30 Apr 2018 22:44:22
Does that mean 001 is klopp 🤔.

4.) 01 May 2018 08:00:23
It's the way Dr Strange decide to intervene and allow us to be in this parallel universe to win UCL. It also the only way to defeat Thanos. AOC, Buvac has to be sacrificed for greater good.

5.) 01 May 2018 08:38:20
Thought ed025 was a bit dodgy must be John Achterberg ;)

{Ed025's Note - i wish SR, he gets paid for doing sod all whereas i work my fingers to the bone for a pittance mate.. :)

6.) 01 May 2018 23:46:15
001 and 002 together for Liverpool and we win treble every year.




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28 May 2018 19:47:29
Does this mean Buvac is leaving permanently then? Kinda hoped Klopp and him would patch things up, for the sake of their friendship if not for anything else.




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24 May 2018 10:34:55
A DLP, hmmm. so someone like Kovacic, Harry?




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21 May 2018 20:20:51
Considering how he whined about being dropped for Karius, surely Mignolet will have to drop his wage demands if he doesn't want to become third choice next season if Butland/ Navas/ Reina comes in?




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17 May 2018 23:36:28
Thanks for the info/ heads-up, Macca.

Tarkowski - please no, not what we need. I'd rather play Gomez as our first choice RCB instead.

Fekir - yes please

Dembele - I can't see him getting a game ahead of our front three so is he swapping the bench of Barcelona for the bench of Liverpool? Seems like a strange one although I do agree we need a quality 'forward' who can come in for Mane, Salah and Firmino in case of injuries, rotation and lost of form

Butland - As backup, I wouldn't mind him too much. Hope he won't cost too much though

Ceballos - decent player, there's a reason why both Real and Barcelona were chasing after him the summer before. Him and Hendo would be a decent rotation policy and with Keita, Fekir and AOC (after injury), our midfield looks pretty great.

Really, instead of Tarkowski, we should be looking to bring in a RB asap (which the eds have confirmed) so hopefully we don't waste money on a CB who's being carried by Mee and been protected by the system at Burnley and buy a quality player for a problem area in the first eleven.




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09 May 2018 13:38:57
Get outta here, Plums, how the hell is ed002 stirring the pot? He's literally stating facts. If you don't like it, you're under no obligation to visit this site and comment because the rest of us appreciate the info, knowledge and insight he provides.





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02 Jul 2018 11:34:24
Everton had a really decent defence for a while, Jagielka, Baines, Coleman. Would honestly have taken them all if they didn't play for the Toffees.




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26 Jun 2018 21:37:15
Luka Modric has been the standout player imo. Keisuke Honda has also looked very bright and has had significant impact in the cameos he's been given.




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13 Jun 2018 21:56:20
Oh dear, I thought 2004 was still within the past ten years, I'm getting old! Thanks for pointing that out Salah. In that case, I'll have to go for Firmino.




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13 Jun 2018 20:55:00
Horn signed a new contract after Koln relegated. I know the eds usually say contracts don't matter (too) much, but I don't think he would've signed if he didn't want to stay and help Koln get promoted next season.




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13 Jun 2018 20:51:32
a) Xabi Alonso although selling him was also amongst the worst transfer decisions we've ever made

b) got to be King Kenny.