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08 Jan 2018 09:38:12
Any news on club planning to offer new contract to firmino? I hear he gets 60 odd. Anyone know when the contract is expiring?

PakRed

1.) 08 Jan 2018 10:15:36
No idea how true it is, but i read he gets a base salary of £68k a week, plus a £45k bonus per goal.


2.) 08 Jan 2018 10:18:12
I mentioned a few months back he wants to stay longer, not sure what’s happening now.


3.) 08 Jan 2018 10:28:39
Coutinho is a player we did not want to lose. Firmino is a player we cannot afford to lose. Keep this one happy at all costs I say.


4.) 08 Jan 2018 10:37:00
Christ! How must they manage on that pittance?


5.) 08 Jan 2018 10:55:34
My favorite player in the squad, even though I tend to swear in front of the TV when he misses some shots :D.


6.) 08 Jan 2018 11:15:31
Why would anyone ask that on the back of the FA investigation this week following the Derby?!?! I hardly think it’s priority number one right now!


7.) 08 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Its priority no. one right now to make sure your important players are tied down to a long term contract and are happy.

The investigation is just a formality. The real investigation should be how holgate did see red for that push.


8.) 08 Jan 2018 11:55:13
Fair enough PakRed. I can’t believe he wasn’t sent off or even get a yellow either, but subject to the outcome the dust would have to settle first before the thorny issue of a contract is approached.

{Ed002's Note - Firmino is contracted until 2020.}


9.) 08 Jan 2018 12:05:01
But in the end, how good is a long term contract. Both Suarez and Coutinho had been handed new improved and extended contracts multiple times. If a player wants out, he will eventually get on, one way or another. The only difference is that we can ask a higher price. I thinkbthe only way to avoid, or limit these enforcements, is to put in a sanctnificant sanction or fine for the player, if he mistreats his contract in a certain aspecs. But what "worldstar" would sign such deal, properly noone. Sometimes I would like football to have a draft system like in the NBA or NFL. Player prices and buyout clauses should be capped and priced by evaluation.


10.) 08 Jan 2018 12:53:20
I think these long terms contracts mean little regarding the player actually staying with the club, however, they do ensure the club gets top dollar when the player goes.


11.) 08 Jan 2018 13:27:05
Mk I think that was misinterpreted when he let mane score rather than tap it in, as he was due a bonus with his next goal!


12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:40:53
We should offer new terms asap for the player 2020 is not that far away.


 

 

25 Aug 2016 11:09:45
Reports linking us with Charlie Taylor of Leeds. Is there any truths to this ed?

I read a little bit on him and he's a left back who can also play left wing. Is on the last year of his contract and has handed over a transfer request.

PakRed

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool but both West Brom and Middlesbrough have spoken with Leeds about Mr Taylor.}


1.) 26 Aug 2016 16:01:05
LFC are not signing a LB this window. Expect Balo and some of the squad players to move on before end of the window. Perhaps a holding midfielder/ deep lying midfielder is the only possibility of anything coming in.

Regards.


2.) 28 Aug 2016 02:43:55
I hear that Lucas leiva is a great holding mid. Should be pretty cheap too.


 

 

23 Oct 2014 09:00:07
Eds just read on metro that liverpool have lodged a 31.2 million bid for higuain? it doesn't say 'interested in' it says bid lodged, any truth to this?

PakRed

{Ed002's Note - They are teasing you. No offer has been made. Liverpool might well be one of the interested clubs if he is made available for sale.}


1.) Yes that is a bid odd, although i'm not sure if higuain is such a good idea as you hear that he is a very lazy player.

I think we need a player like lavezzi who can have similar effects as suarez in terms of work rate and inspiring others. I know he is not a very good finisher but people forget that suarez early in his pool career was all huff and puff and not great finishing, so maybe rodgers can help lavezzi with that


2.) JOURNALIST: BR, BR, how do you plan on helping your defense get back to any sort of form.

BR: I'll tell you how sir. MORE STRIKERS!


 

 

 

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27 Oct 2018 20:24:05
The table looks so beautiful :)

PakRed

1.) 28 Oct 2018 03:34:23
Did you polish it?


2.) 28 Oct 2018 09:21:41
It's not about who we sign but who we sell. The likes of Origi, Lallana, and Moreno are good players - there's no doubt about that - but they are mid-table players and not good enough to play in any of the top six sides. Sadly they don't step up when given the opportunity. To me the midfield should be Wijnaldum, Fabinho, and Shaqiri and here should not be changes every match. We should always play our strongest eleven and that includes Gomez instead of Lovren. If players get tired easily they shouldn't be at the club at all.


3.) 28 Oct 2018 09:58:07
Mia, You are aware that you CANNOT always play your strongest eleven in a 60 to 70 game season, right? This is why you have a squad as homogenous as possible to rotate with so as to have as little drop-off in performances as possible. Also, if this statement was true, "If players get tired easily they shouldn't be at the club at all. " then why do most teams have a 25 player squad to pick from? Strange post, man.


4.) 28 Oct 2018 20:00:09
Of course Liverpool can't play the strongest eleven every match because of injuries and suspensions etc. but we should play the strongest eleven AVAILABLE! That wasn't so yesterday. Robertson should have played instead of Moreno and Shaqiri instead of Lallana. There might be a good reason for playing them when there are also midweek games but not when there are eight days until the next match.


 

 

25 Oct 2018 07:40:20
How impressive has shaqiri been? I never had doubts on his ability but I had my reservations when we bought him.

So far he has shown brilliant attitude and has been involved in a direct or indirect assist (s) every game he's played.

Hes definitely pushing for a starting place and i think he might against Cardiff again as Klopp took him off around 60 mins.

PakRed

1.) 25 Oct 2018 08:06:20
Standing ovation when he came off. Wasn’t perfect but as you said, great attitude and produces moments of magic regularly. Good piece of business.


2.) 25 Oct 2018 08:59:05
The most encouraging thing for me was how he chased an won the ball back in the middle to then set Robbo up for his assist. Commentator said he didn’t see his role last night as one he’d be playing often. I’d argue it’s his only realistic shot at regular starts.


3.) 25 Oct 2018 13:05:02
12 mil 😂 I told you all it couldn't go wrong.

He's worth at least 25 mil to a west ham right now. Simple.

But we have a super player for an absolute pittance! Pittance.

We have 4 contenders for the best prem deals in history. Shaq, Gomez, Robertson and Salah.

There's loads and loads for other clubs but for a team taking on the almighty city right now, to have 4 playing for us that cost less together than mahrez is pretty cool :)

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry but not one of them is anywhere near a contender for that title yet. They need to perform at a high level for more than a few months to get near it.}


4.) 25 Oct 2018 13:35:52
I think you are forgetting Coutinho, and Suarez. Bought for peanuts, and sold for £200 million combined.


5.) 25 Oct 2018 13:57:52
Kloppsboss, talk about getting carried away! Shaq has played about 3 games for us, did okay at stoke and you’re. Talking one of the best deals in PL history? There have been dozens they came cheap to other clubs and went for big money and have done it over a long time. Gomez hasn’t even played 10 games as CB! Look at Leicester’s cheap buys or even Arsenal’s in their prime!


6.) 25 Oct 2018 14:24:29
Salah isn't anywhere near deal of the century ed?

Are we sure?

Fyi he is even leading the premilary polls for the ballon. The fact that we signed him for 40 mil, he went on to become the record premier league scorer, player of the year, 6x liverpool potm, I think 4 time premier league potm, African player of the year, champions league finalist and is even in contention to break the 10 year cycle of Messi and Ronaldo as world's best player.

God knows what counts as a steal. 😂😂

Gomez is a beast and is vying with vvd the 80 mil defender for our best cb. We signed him for 3.5 mil.

Robertson relegated with hull to a champions league final lb.

Shaq was bought in this market. The next on the list was seemingly fekir for 50 mil.

As for getting carried away. I meant for why we had to sign him. If he doesn't get back in our side he is still worth a chunk to a west ham or something, so we were never going to lose. If he carries on like he is then we have a proper player for an absolute pittance.

{Ed001's Note - 1 season does not make a deal of the century. Hyperbolic nonsense. Love him but he has to perform for years to be considered, not one year. This is just people not understanding anything other than yesterday. Knee jerk reaction at its finest.

When you become a mature adult and stop getting carried away with a short term viewpoint, then you will understand and remember we have had players such as Xabi Alonso, the best defensive midfielder of the modern era and sold him for a profit and Fernando Torres, who we sold for double after getting the best years of his career, they, by any intelligent and sensible definition, would be better deals.}


7.) 25 Oct 2018 15:23:46
Kloppsboss love your enthusiasm but none of the players you mention can be regarded deal of the century. Shaq has only played a handful of games.
Using Ed01's example, Xabi Alonso cost around £10 million, was sold for £30 million, but also won trophies for Liverpool. He won the champions league and the FA cup.
Thierry Henry was a great deal for Arsenal, won trophies and sold at a profit to Barcelona. I'm sure there are lots of players who have been better deals than our 4 players.
Hopefully 1 day when they have won Liverpool several big trophies over a few seasons we can say about them, but not yet.

{Ed001's Note - that is a much more eloquent way of saying what I was trying to, thank you flash.}


8.) 25 Oct 2018 16:05:28
How do we even measure 'best deals'? Is it simply a numbers game whereby we subtract what a team paid for x player from what they sold him for? Or is his contribution to his respective club in comparison to the fee paid how we measure it?

Just wondering because I was thinking of Hyypia, a stalwart at the back for us who cost 4mil (of thereabouts) . Ended up leaving on a free after excellent years of service, but his contribution was significant so couldn't we argue he also represents a great deal?


9.) 25 Oct 2018 16:18:33
Depends what you value tbh.

We might and should never sell any of those players anymore. So for transfer fees in vs out we might never know the comparison.

All I can say is Gomez, Robertson, Salah and shaqiri are all going to go for more than we paid.

I'm judging deal of the century as what we got for what we paid, not made.

So we paid 40 mil for Salah and received 44 goals, 32 premier league goals, which is a record - the record - the pfa player of the year. A champions league final. Potential ballon dore. Even if we don't sell him what he has done for our brand is insane.

Gomez. John stones is nowhere near as good and went for 50 million. We signed him for 3.5. He is now playing alongside and rivalling a cb who cost us 80 million pounds. How much would we have to pay to get someone to displace him.

Robertson vs Mendy. One 8.5 mil the other 50 million.

Shaqiri 12.5 mil, fekir next for 50 million.

To clarify I didn't say profit of the century.


10.) 25 Oct 2018 18:02:50
Can see what kloppisboss is saying. They were all excellent buys. But to be deservedly called a deal of the century - as ed says - they have to be performing in another 5 years.

I will happily sit in the middle, and call them all fantastic buys, but just how fantastic, we shall have to wait and see.


11.) 25 Oct 2018 19:30:55
Kloppsboss, your enthusiasm is commendable BUT you need to turn it down a couple of notches cos those players you mentioned will do VERY WELL to emulate a Xabi Alonso or Torres or Henry achievement-wise before being labeled "Best deal (s) of the century", whatever the heck that means.


12.) 25 Oct 2018 23:32:42
You are right klopp boss, all 4 were fantastic deals for us but the only one who is close to biggest bargain ever and its salah but we did pay 40 mil near on, before the neymar 200mil deal. And 40 was a very high fee then.

None of the players mentioned have achieved club success yet and cannot be compared to other players who have.

Ask yourself this, would a non Liverpool supporter suggest any of the 4 as being the best Premier league bargain? They wouldn't. Joe gomez? Unbelievable player but remember hypia, he came quite cheap and will always be considered one of the leagues finest cbs.


13.) 25 Oct 2018 23:34:16
He's the type of player who is highly, naturally talented. These players have a split second more time than most and can then try passes others don't see.

Some of those chips into the box were pure class. His understanding with salah was exciting and with trent and gini our right side looks very dangerous.

I really think this is our time, I think in 20 years people are going to be talking about these players. It started 3 years ago when klopp came.


14.) 26 Oct 2018 00:15:35
Christiano Ronaldo was the best deal in the Premier League. He arrived fairly cheap, won lots at United and became arguably the best/ second best (if you think Messi is better) player in the world before being sold at a massive profit. Salah is nowhere near that level yet.


 

 

22 Oct 2018 08:02:46
Just a bit of analysis to see how we did in the first 9 games last season compared to this season.

2017/ 18
Points collected 13.
Goals Scored 14.
Goals Conceded 16
Won 3
Lost 2
Draw 4


2018/ 19
Points collected 23.
Goals Scored 16.
Goals Conceded 3.
Won 7
Lost 0
Draw 2

It was really after the spurs game (9th) that we started picking up results and our attack started to gel and be fluent.
Comparatively we've still scored more goal at this point than last season in 9 games.

So everyone just relax good times are ahead.

PakRed

1.) 22 Oct 2018 09:18:20
Exactly Pak I said exactly this on another thread. People just seemed to expect us to roll everybody over. Football just isn’t like that.


2.) 22 Oct 2018 09:38:18
Goals conceded: 3 this season vs Goals conceded: 16 last season really makes for great reading. What a defensive improvement.


3.) 22 Oct 2018 10:35:27
Thanks for that Pak. Perspective.


4.) 22 Oct 2018 10:45:33
Good simple post 👍🏻 Cheers mate.


5.) 22 Oct 2018 12:39:52
Pak

A good post for putting things into perspective.

Plus i think our fixtires this year have been a lot tougher than they were last year up to this point.

City are still favourites but i expect us to be on their heels most of the season.


6.) 22 Oct 2018 16:12:53
Had no idea our goals conceded difference, between this season and last, was that stark. I mean I knew we were better this season but damn 13 goals in it? That is a serious, serious improvement - and we haven't really got going as an attacking force yet. Good signs.


7.) 22 Oct 2018 18:11:48
Great comparison. I was very surprised to see the goals scored number. Thanks for putting that together.


8.) 22 Oct 2018 20:33:38
PakRed, not a stats guy BUT those numbers never lie, man. May I also add another stat. At this time last season, City had a 12 point lead over us (hence, any title tilt was blown away after 9 games) . This season, we are joint top hence, 12 point swing in fortunes in our favor. As they say to the haters out there, "Read it and Weep! "


9.) 23 Oct 2018 06:17:56
Thanks everyone. I agree stats is not everything but these stats are telling. Our attack can only get better I feel and it will too!

Till then im happy will all the ugly 1 nils.


 

 

08 Oct 2018 11:04:51
Maybe after the break against huddersfield we start with Sturridge and Shaqiri, freshen things up, give the front three a rest and very very gentle reminder that there is depth.

Mane's been off color last few games, taking too much time on the ball and not passing at the right moments.

Still very very happy to be top 3 (joint top whatever)

PakRed

1.) 08 Oct 2018 16:21:08
I agree with the fact that we need to change at least one of the front three.
Mane Firmino and Salah need to know that they are not undroppable and the next game would be perfect.

I would personally put Firmino on the bench (this would also rest him after any long Brazil trek) and play a front 3 of Mane Salah and Shaqiri with Mo down the middle.
Come on Klopp- freshen it up a bit.


2.) 08 Oct 2018 19:18:13
Hudd will park THREE buses for that game so we need to flood their whole defence with attackers in order to draw/ drag them out of position. The hope s that Shaq has Klopp's trust to play him in the 10 cos when Cou played there at times in his LFC career, he was great at tracking back and doing the dirty work and I'm not sure Klopp thinks Shaq can do that right now. We shall see.


 

 

01 Oct 2018 07:27:09
Hi Eds

Would love for you to do a profile on Henderson. Im not so tactically aware that I fully understand if he is a good player or a bad player. He had a bad game against chelsea but he's had some good game for us too. Not to regularly but he can pick out a really good pass from distance, breaks up play has the ability to go forward and get back but I'm still not sure if he's good for us or not.

Another thing is that would he have been getting the amount of game time if OX was fit? Ox definitely has an eye for goal, more creativity and matches him for athleticism all day.

PakRed

{Ed001's Note - there is an old one: Jordan Henderson but I will add him to the list for a new one.}


1.) 01 Oct 2018 18:05:09
He is good for us. Without doubt. I know stats can be manipulated but he tops most last year.


2.) 01 Oct 2018 19:47:29
I don't and have never cared about what people think about Hendo and al the pathetic, mindless negativity towards him. The guy is BOSS and if it weren't for him sacrificing his game as an attacking midfielder, and converting to a no. 6, (cos Klopp trusted him way more than Emre Can in that position) we don't have the front 3 we have now. He is a selfless player, a true capt. and leader who many times before has taken the game over esp. in the CL BUT his haters can't deal with it. So he had a not so good game on Sat. So what? Gini was actually worse than him. Why? Cos Gi ni hides in games esp. away from home. Hendo? NEVER. The kid is brave and NEVER hides cos in the no. 6 role, there is simply nowhere to hide. Keep doing your thing, man. We are with you, Hendo lad.


3.) 01 Oct 2018 22:30:07
BRover, I agree with everything you say about Hendo - Klopp refers to him as The General and that sums it up for me. But why do you have to have a pop about Wijnaldum ‘hiding’ in away games to support your view? You refer to Hendo’s critics as ‘haters’ - by your own definition, aren’t you acting like a ‘hater’ by criticising Wijnaldum? Why not just accept that they are different players who bring different things to the team when they are selected to play?


4.) 01 Oct 2018 22:30:53
I am not sure who brought this “Gini hides away from the game”. Wijnaldum has been exceptional in the last 7 games without a doubt and a what a transformation to the holding role. I am sorry but someone has to go to the bench for Keita and atm it’s henderson whose role is occupied by Wijnaldum and vey well!


5.) 01 Oct 2018 23:35:52
Wirral, referring to me as a hater cos I have a diff. opinion than others on Wiji, is a very myopic and simplistic way of thinking. I am not comparing both players cos yes, they both bring different things to our game. I used Wiji as an example cos he DOES hide in games. There is a reason he has only scored TWO measly goals away from home in all comps for us since he signed.

He slows the game down way too much, IMO and even on Sat., he had chances to force the issue and make runs into the space the Chelsea midfield left him cos he had them reeling. What did he do? He slowed down, checked back and boom, the play is dead. He does this WAY too much for my liking and this is a guy who was a talent as an AM at PSV and the World Cup ion Brazil. He can do this BUT why isn't he esp. when the chances are there to do it? I agree that Hendo plays a diff. role so not comparing him BUT I will say that Hendo does not hide in games (sdee PSG and Roma, both at Anfield for reference), Wiji does and that is my issue. The issue here is that.


6.) 01 Oct 2018 23:38:45
Harry, you keep spouting off about how Keita should start and who needs to go to the bench. You know what, I agree with you. So in your opinion, who goes to the bench then? It can't be Hendo as he is a DM (and is better than Wiji in the DM role, IMO) while Keita is an AM/ B2B midfielder and a damn good one. Might I suggest Jorginho?


7.) 02 Oct 2018 17:02:48
BRover, I think I’ve got it now. Anyone who criticises a Liverpool player who you rate (eg Hendo) is a ‘hater’ but you can criticise a Liverpool player who you don’t rate (eg Wijnaldum) without being a ‘hater’. Fair enough.


8.) 02 Oct 2018 20:41:38
Lol Wirral spot on!


 

 

 

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21 Oct 2018 13:07:50
Maybe against the smaller more stubborn teams we need to play shaqiri in stead of third misfielder.

We will click, there were moments in the past 2 and a half season with klopp where we would not click as an attacking team and lost or drew games. I think we were 9th after that second int break last season.

This season the defense is supporting when we aren't scoring 3-4 goals. The goals will come im not worried.

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09 Apr 2018 07:25:05
Xabi its probably best to judge him once he has a consistent run of games under his belt. I think he can be good for us if he gets game time.

The real question is who do you prefer is the squad striker, origi or Ings? its looking like wolfsburg will not retain his services next season.

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02 Apr 2018 12:50:40
We need to get ideally a CB a GK and CDM this summer. Worst case we need to get a CB and CDM.

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28 Mar 2018 10:17:48
Origi would be marketable for teams outside the top 3 leagues, francce or portugal?

Sad about sturridge and all that potential. he's on 120 too apparently and no one will be willing to pay that.

He could also end up pulling a van persie and be injury free next two years and bang the goals in.

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09 Jan 2018 10:30:29
Alex Teixeira is back!

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30 Oct 2018 06:42:45
From doubter to believers. let's create an positive and back the team even if they lose a game.

I understand the skepticism due to out past failings but we need enjoy this and back the team.

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25 Oct 2018 10:10:26
You play a midfield two or mid field three depending on the opposition that's infront of you. Klopp may go for a two again against Cardiff but I doubt he will do that against Arsenal.

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23 Oct 2018 08:55:28
We are definitely missing chamberlain but I think Keita, once he gets into the groove, can do the linking business.

I also feel Lallana along with struridge need to have a great season if we are to win anything.

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23 Oct 2018 06:17:56
Thanks everyone. I agree stats is not everything but these stats are telling. Our attack can only get better I feel and it will too!

Till then im happy will all the ugly 1 nils.

PakRed

 

 

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22 Oct 2018 10:50:16
I would not say ten times better def and goal keeper, for one thing ederson is really pushing Allison in the brazil squad.

They have the exact defensive stats as us right now. 6 clean sheets 3 goals conceded.

They had a lot more clean sheets than us last season. I know that not an indicator on its own but we aren't ten times better. Maybe we edge it but certainly not ten times better.

PakRed