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08 Jan 2018 09:38:12
Any news on club planning to offer new contract to firmino? I hear he gets 60 odd. Anyone know when the contract is expiring?

PakRed

1.) 08 Jan 2018 10:15:36
No idea how true it is, but i read he gets a base salary of £68k a week, plus a £45k bonus per goal.


2.) 08 Jan 2018 10:18:12
I mentioned a few months back he wants to stay longer, not sure what’s happening now.


3.) 08 Jan 2018 10:28:39
Coutinho is a player we did not want to lose. Firmino is a player we cannot afford to lose. Keep this one happy at all costs I say.


4.) 08 Jan 2018 10:37:00
Christ! How must they manage on that pittance?


5.) 08 Jan 2018 10:55:34
My favorite player in the squad, even though I tend to swear in front of the TV when he misses some shots :D.


6.) 08 Jan 2018 11:15:31
Why would anyone ask that on the back of the FA investigation this week following the Derby?!?! I hardly think it’s priority number one right now!


7.) 08 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Its priority no. one right now to make sure your important players are tied down to a long term contract and are happy.

The investigation is just a formality. The real investigation should be how holgate did see red for that push.


8.) 08 Jan 2018 11:55:13
Fair enough PakRed. I can’t believe he wasn’t sent off or even get a yellow either, but subject to the outcome the dust would have to settle first before the thorny issue of a contract is approached.

{Ed002's Note - Firmino is contracted until 2020.}


9.) 08 Jan 2018 12:05:01
But in the end, how good is a long term contract. Both Suarez and Coutinho had been handed new improved and extended contracts multiple times. If a player wants out, he will eventually get on, one way or another. The only difference is that we can ask a higher price. I thinkbthe only way to avoid, or limit these enforcements, is to put in a sanctnificant sanction or fine for the player, if he mistreats his contract in a certain aspecs. But what "worldstar" would sign such deal, properly noone. Sometimes I would like football to have a draft system like in the NBA or NFL. Player prices and buyout clauses should be capped and priced by evaluation.


10.) 08 Jan 2018 12:53:20
I think these long terms contracts mean little regarding the player actually staying with the club, however, they do ensure the club gets top dollar when the player goes.


11.) 08 Jan 2018 13:27:05
Mk I think that was misinterpreted when he let mane score rather than tap it in, as he was due a bonus with his next goal!


12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:40:53
We should offer new terms asap for the player 2020 is not that far away.


 

 

25 Aug 2016 11:09:45
Reports linking us with Charlie Taylor of Leeds. Is there any truths to this ed?

I read a little bit on him and he's a left back who can also play left wing. Is on the last year of his contract and has handed over a transfer request.

PakRed

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool but both West Brom and Middlesbrough have spoken with Leeds about Mr Taylor.}


1.) 26 Aug 2016 16:01:05
LFC are not signing a LB this window. Expect Balo and some of the squad players to move on before end of the window. Perhaps a holding midfielder/ deep lying midfielder is the only possibility of anything coming in.

Regards.


2.) 28 Aug 2016 02:43:55
I hear that Lucas leiva is a great holding mid. Should be pretty cheap too.


 

 

23 Oct 2014 09:00:07
Eds just read on metro that liverpool have lodged a 31.2 million bid for higuain? it doesn't say 'interested in' it says bid lodged, any truth to this?

PakRed

{Ed002's Note - They are teasing you. No offer has been made. Liverpool might well be one of the interested clubs if he is made available for sale.}


1.) Yes that is a bid odd, although i'm not sure if higuain is such a good idea as you hear that he is a very lazy player.

I think we need a player like lavezzi who can have similar effects as suarez in terms of work rate and inspiring others. I know he is not a very good finisher but people forget that suarez early in his pool career was all huff and puff and not great finishing, so maybe rodgers can help lavezzi with that


2.) JOURNALIST: BR, BR, how do you plan on helping your defense get back to any sort of form.

BR: I'll tell you how sir. MORE STRIKERS!


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2019 08:25:28
Its correct that people seem to forget how good Couthinio was for us. He gave it his all when he was with us.

Remember the game away to stoke in 16/ 17 season when he was not fit and left behind by Klopp but he drove him self to stoke, asked klopp to put him on the bench came on at half time when we were 1-0 down and score and assisted for us to win the game.

So let's respect what he has also done for the club. He got an opportunity to go for his dream he left and we got a lot of money. He could have stalled signing his contract like them arsenal boys but he signed a new contract a year or so before leaving i think.

PakRed

1.) 17 Jan 2019 08:38:50
I think you’re looking at it with a bit of rose tint mate.

He went on strike, went public of his desire to leave and faked injuries - not cool

However, it seems a lot of the time in football people hold grudges and take things a bit personally.

For me, what he did was bang out of order. But if he publically apologised and said how he regretted his actions etc, it would be forgotten for me.

Everyone makes errors of judgement or does things they wished they hadn’t. And everyone deserves a second chance.


2.) 17 Jan 2019 08:49:41
I think behind the season he had told the club he wanted to leave if Barcelona came. He must have signed a new contract with no buy out clause in good faith.

We got a lot of money for him and we benefited for that. He didn't go to a rival english club.

And like the example I gave he gave all for the club when he was around.

Much better than what the like of Torres did to us.

{Ed001's Note - how did we get a lot of money for him? We still haven't received anything like the £100m the papers talk about. I wish people would actually find out the truth before claiming others are ignorant.

He signed nothing in good faith, the reason for no buy out clause was purely because they are not legally binding in English football.}


3.) 17 Jan 2019 08:55:59
Why is still a discussion? He is gone, move on. Who cares whether he does well at Barcelona or not? He got the move he wanted, we got the money for our summer spending spree and have a better squad now. He is never coming back to LFC, so he can have his second chance elsewhere.

{Ed001's Note - we didn't get the money from his sale! It does not work like that.}


4.) 17 Jan 2019 09:34:17
Is it not correct though Ed that although we didn’t get all of the money upfront we can spend based on the certainty of the instalments being paid in future?
Surely they can’t say as he’s not good enough they aren’t going to pay the agreed amount?

{Ed001's Note - of course you can't spend when it is based on appearances etc. We won't get them if he is sold, which looks likely. You can't base a financial decision on what might come in unless you are Peter Ridsdale.}


5.) 17 Jan 2019 09:45:14
i fully understand coutinho's situation. i am an software Developer and i am Happy at where i am until Google called. now i have my mind set to Work at Google. that is just simply a dream move which i guess similar to coutinho's situation.


6.) 17 Jan 2019 09:49:15
And that's why Southampton made such a great deal (for them) when they sold us VVD. They knew Klopp wanted him at all costs, and simply sat there until they got what they wanted and all upfront. I guess in time we will feel it was a great deal for us too, going by VVD's performances. I know it's not the norm, but still the best way to do business.


7.) 17 Jan 2019 10:02:25
The best part of the coutinho deal was the extra 100 million clause if barcelona try to sign anyone else.

It might keep salah and mane at liverpool this summer. Both looked to have eyes on barcelona. let's hope madrid don't come a knocking.


8.) 17 Jan 2019 10:20:55
Excuse my ignorance Eds. But question, surely there is safe guards in such a deal? As what then would stop a team buying player x for £30m + £30m based on appearances etc. Then 1 season later selling him on for £50m. Thus player x never reaching required appearances. And them making a Easy £20m profit and never paying any of the add ons they negotiated! The way football is run now as a business I just can't see selling teams not putting in some sort of clause if player x is sold, within a certain time frame that wouldn't allow him required time to ever reach 50 appearances, for argument sake. Or there would be nothing stopping teams from doing this to turn a quick profit. Hope that makes sense and not to silly a question. Great site btw.

{Ed001's Note - or like Wolves did with Afobe and buying him then selling him a few days later you mean?}


9.) 17 Jan 2019 10:25:04
That can’t be right though can it Ed? Surely we have a minimum amount that they have to give us regardless of appearances, goals etc. so we know that we are definitely getting X amount over say 5 years. Otherwise it’s a no brainer for them as we are taking all of the risk.
They can just say ‘we’ll sign him for £50mil but if he’s no good we’ll just sell him and not have to pay any more’. That would be a ridiculous way for us to do business.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the structure of the finances for the sale of Coutinho previously. You need to move on from this as it is simply causing a lot of confusion.}


10.) 17 Jan 2019 11:09:44
Want I really wanted to comment on was would you have him back?

And I highlighted a story based on which I would say yes I would not mind having him back if situation develops that way.


11.) 17 Jan 2019 11:27:39
tbh you complain about him going on strike etc. but VVD did it to Southampton did he not? works both ways I for one was upset that Couts left but we have progressed much better as a team without him so good luck to him at Barcelona hopefully it works out you'll all be clapping him in 10 years time when he comes to play at a charity event like Suarez and Torres did last year.


12.) 17 Jan 2019 11:36:48
ED002 very kindly laid out the full structure of the Coutinho deal. You can find it by searching with time stamp “31 Dec 2018 15:27:14”.

By looking at the structure most fans will realise how complex transfer deals can be, with portions which are fixed and portions which are contingents on player appearances or team performance. Also note the agent and other third party fees which are due based on their own terms.

All of this outlines the futility of predicting an unwinding of the deal to bring Couts back without having full insight of the clubs current financial position and future projection, access to legal advice and all parties around the table.

I’d love to see Coutinho challenge Mane, Keita and Shaqiri for a spot in the team but with the eye watering numbers involved I hope the club doesn’t jeapordise its future by stocking overpaid players for rotation. If the club can afford him, I’d be delighted!


13.) 17 Jan 2019 11:52:54
So worst case after deduction towards inter and vasco we will still end up getting 110-120 mil i guess.

{Ed001's Note - you mean best case.}


14.) 17 Jan 2019 12:23:33
Well 120 mil is confirmed with just a timing issue.

Solidarity payment to inter = (120*2.5%) *3= 7.5

Solidarity payment to vasco = (120*2.5%) *3= 7.5

5 guaranteed for 25 games

10 guaranteed for knockout stages (group 5 knock out 5)

Grand worst case total = 120-15+15= 120

I know its not as simple as this but just as an approximation for us fans.

{Ed001's Note - has he made those appearances?}


15.) 17 Jan 2019 14:08:57
Money aside, do you not think he will stay and fight ed? If it’s his dream move like he thought, how can you give up so quickly. Even if you are not in favour, put in the shifts in training. I think he should be aiming for a midfield spot, Busquets rakitic Arthur etc, can’t offer what he can.

{Ed001's Note - or maybe he has realised the grass is not so green.}


16.) 17 Jan 2019 13:19:21
My source is only Wiki (apologies! ) but upto 13 Jan 19, Pipco had made 47 appearances for Barcelona - 35 in the league, 5 in the cup, 6 in Europe and 1 'other'.

According to Ed002's great breakdown, we get the next €5m when he reaches 50 "first class appearances". Not sure what the 'Other' is above, but he's 3-4 appearances away from that payment being triggered.

As PakRed has said above, €120m is guaranteed, with the first €48m already having been paid, €24m due this month, €24m due in June and the remaining €24m due in June 20.

We've already been paid the first €5m of €20m appearance related payments (for 25 appearances) with the next €5m arguably imminent (if he's not sold) .

We've already got the first €5m of the €20m related to Champions League performance (when Barcelona qualified for the 2018-19 UCL) and I would think another €5m is pretty much guaranteed as it is dependent on Barcelona qualifying for the UCL group stages in 2019-20 which is pretty nailed on they will do. The remaining €10m is dependent on Barcelona winning it in each year, which they won't do because we will :)

So, if we assume that he leaves before hitting 75 or 100 appearances for Barca, then we have:

€120m fixed, €10m from appearances (if he reaches 50) and €10m from Barcelona qualifying for the UCL Group stages in 2018-19 and 2019-20 so €140m. Of this we owe Vasco and Inter a total of 5% which is €7m so netting €133m, albeit over time.

I have a couple of questions (probably for Ed002) if I may, just to help our understanding of football finances:

1) Regarding the €120m which is fixed, when would Liverpool be able to book that as revenue in their books for FFP purposes? Is it at point of sale, or at point of receipt of the monies?

2) Also regarding the €120m, are the payment dates adhered to even if the player subsequently is sold by the club? I presume they are even if he leaves, rather than the remaining amount being payable immediately (I seem to remember that we were still paying for players that we had subsequently sold some time earlier)

3) Regarding the UCL related payments, if the player leaves the club beforehand, but they still qualify for/ win the competition, are the payments still due or are they only relevant whilst he is at the club?

Thank you!

Z.

{Ed002's Note - (1) This is not simple as the club borrowed against the income. (2) Yes, typically that is how it works but there is the caveat we spoke of previously if they are to buy another player from Liverpool which would see them paid up. (3) Only whilst he is with the club - people have been court out by not making that clear before (e.g. Liverpool).}


17.) 17 Jan 2019 15:07:54
I think it's easy for us to criticise Coutinho as, for any of us to play for Liverpool would be a dream come true. It's different though for South Americans. Their Holy Grail, or at least the majority of them, is to play for Real Madrid or Barcelona. So, while I certainly don't like what he did or how he went about it, I can to some extent understand why he did it. If he didn't take the chance then he might never get another one.


18.) 17 Jan 2019 16:31:52
Thanks Ed002, appreciate it.

Z.


19.) 17 Jan 2019 17:44:55
Can we just pay barcelona what they have paid and get him?


20.) 17 Jan 2019 18:28:55
VakPa, why would we pay them the best part of €80m (roughly what we've received so far) to have a player back who doesn't have a natural position in our shape of team, other than the Shaqiri role in a 4-2-3-1, which Shaq is playing quite nicely himself thank you? In a 4-3-3 he doesn't fit in the middle 3, so he'd have to take Salah or Mane's place. Which would you pick to bench for him? Passing by Pulisic proved to me that a) Mane or Salah are not likely to move any time soon (thankfully) and b) the club is not prepared to pay c€70m for someone to have in rotation. Pipco would cost at least 10-20% more (if not more than that) .

Also, why would he want to come back to us when he's not guaranteed a starting position? His dream was to play for Barcelona and he's on the bench there quite often. If he moves away from his dream club, I would imagine he would want to move to a club where he was a guaranteed starter.


 

 

16 Jan 2019 06:39:38
Gomez looks like he will miss only one more game and be back for the one of 30th. So We will have gomez, fabhino, milner and rafa camacho to cover at rb.

No need to panic.

Hoping Arnold can be back for the bayern game. His pace will be crucial against an ageing bayern team.

PakRed

1.) 16 Jan 2019 07:49:31
Plenty of cover and options. Lovren might be back by then also.


2.) 16 Jan 2019 08:51:56
Hasn't Gomez recorded the fastest speed of any LFC player this season so far? If Gomez is covering right back against Bayern I don't think speed will be a problem.


3.) 16 Jan 2019 11:58:04
I'm amazed that Gomez and VVD have clocked faster times than Salah and Mane, this season, but it is what it is. Even Robertson and TAA have been clocked faster. Appearances can be deceiving. 😉.


4.) 16 Jan 2019 18:40:32
Thanks for the info, OP. With the "hair on fire" posts out here, you would thing our injured players won't be back till next season.


 

 

14 Jan 2019 09:47:59
Wow 6 wins out of six moves ManU from six to, well six!

I hope there's no Karma but this had to be said.

PakRed

1.) 14 Jan 2019 10:17:14
This post is worthy of going viral, ParkRed :)


2.) 14 Jan 2019 10:34:03
Yes but they have made a wee cushion between themselves and Watford in 7th. 😉.


3.) 14 Jan 2019 13:04:11
It’s a bounce, there’s always a bounce with a new manager. De Gea up to his old tricks to get them the win. I’d be very interested to see Man U players attitude when they start to show the cracks, and they really will with an unbalanced team. They’re capable of top 4 but I don’t see that continuing the impressiveness. I don’t see the players working as hard for him for the rest of the season. Hey, I’d love if they offered him the job now, that would be brilliant.


4.) 14 Jan 2019 14:10:18
Six six six for the red devils. Evil bunch that lot.


5.) 14 Jan 2019 14:26:27
But it's funny when you think about how it would have been see if this bounce back would have happened while still under Mourinho. He would have been acclaimed as magical shaman, tactical genius, football guru and master motivator. Just goes to show you (once again) that most of it is really up to the players and what they decide to do on the field.


6.) 14 Jan 2019 14:42:13
I’m happy then won will now push spurs and Chelsea into a bit of a scrap with them for 4th. I still haven’t seen a lot from them that scares me. Defensively they are still a mess if De Gea hadn’t made half those saves they would’ve lost by 2 or 3 and the pundits would’ve had a field day with them. Second half their midfield disappeared rarely did I notice Lingard was even on the pitch. All about us and City now.


7.) 14 Jan 2019 19:00:54
I think that Pogba is an absolute disgrace to football. Basically, because he didn't like the manager, he put in little to zero effort. Now that Jose is gone, he's trying and he's turning out top notch performances.

I think it's so disrespectful to the club and fans that he chose to not turn up under Mourinho. How much is he getting paid to just laze about and make his boss look bad? You can see what he's capable of now, so why couldn't he do it before? What happens if he falls out with Ole or the next manager? If Woodward has any sense at all, he'd be the first one out of the door while he's on form and they can get a decent fee for him. Surely they can't afford for that fickle an attitude within their ranks.


8.) 14 Jan 2019 20:01:02
Unfortunately EpicPotato, that is the way football is now. These stars can "tank" games cos they hate the manager and many of the fans and some in the media, will hail them for literally stealing a living and playing crap on purpose, just to get the manager fired even if the manager deserves it in Mou's case.


9.) 15 Jan 2019 09:47:05
I don't agree with that, RedWolf. It's down to different personalities and attitudes. Could you see Gerrard or Milner doing the same because they didn't like the manager?

It's about professionalism, and Pogba doesn't have that. Even Diego Costa was still working his arse off and banging goals in, despite not getting on with Conte.


10.) 15 Jan 2019 20:00:29
EpicPotato, Costa is one of the reasons that got Mou the sack.


 

 

09 Jan 2019 09:52:59
So we now have 5 games in 6 weeks with a couple of weekends free due to FA cup. City will have 9 games in same time period as will spurs.

We will also have ten days to prepare before bayern-united-bayern fixtures.

I'm sure Klopp will be relishing it (although im sure he would have preferred being in the FA cup)

Hearing a warm weather training my also be planned.

Whats incredibly important is winning our next game against brighton and getting the momentum back.

PakRed

1.) 09 Jan 2019 09:56:30
Brighton is crucial! With one fit cb and after a bad week or two we have to keep a four point gap. Going from 7 to 1 or 2 in a fortnight would give city a huge boost and us a mental beating. Brighton is where we get back to business!


2.) 09 Jan 2019 10:08:05
I'm so nervous : (.


3.) 09 Jan 2019 10:18:32
If Brighton feel confident to have a go it could be a 4-3 to LFC, I actually think they do not have the bottle for this and Brighton will be cagey and look to hit us from set pieces.


4.) 09 Jan 2019 10:34:22
It will probably be like the reverse fixture at Anfield, although brighton has been very decent at home this season.


5.) 09 Jan 2019 10:42:08
Don't worry about Brighton, we'll anihalate them. 4-0 would be my guess. People are forgetting we lost norrowly to a very good City team, it happens against such opponents. We then lost to Wolves with all of them changes, is there any wonder why we lost? On Saturday we'll be back to our best and Brighton will pay for our recent results. The league run will once again continue.

We've had it that good we're spoilt, that's half of why there's so much paranoid at the moment, we're still laughing so sit back and enjoy it.


6.) 09 Jan 2019 10:46:03
Chris Hughton will have Brighton VERY well prepared, don’t underestimate him 🤝.


7.) 09 Jan 2019 11:06:33
Gotta love salah's confidence. Though you have to try and analyse the opposition. Yeah we have to believe and have the confidence you have shown. It always make me feel more confident, so thank you.

But, Brighton away is no push over. They have a vefy good manager. But we will have the front three together and a solid midfield. Van dijke will have whatever defenders we have playing yhem in order. Robbo and trent are back in. Lovren may be fit by then, it didn't look too back. Fab did okay apart from one tackle which I don't blame him for trying, he had to stop him, if the full backs had been there they would hsvr given jiminez problems, allowing the rest of the team hi get back and crowd jiminez and nick the ball off his toe.


8.) 09 Jan 2019 11:23:07
If we are going to win the title it was always going to come down to how we respond to losing. City was the first league defeat if we can go on another 10 game winning run I may have salahs confidence too :-P.


9.) 09 Jan 2019 11:52:09
I am not as confident as Salah but the fact is from teams outside the top 6 we haven't dropped a point yet, if we can pick that form back up we should be ok.
we have lost to our closest challengers and lost in the cup with our b team. I'm definitely not fearing a collapse just yet.

Also, people are acting like if we lose another game that's it, city are four behind and are unlikely to win the next 17. let's see where we end up after each game and concentrate on ourselves. Although I wouldn't be surprised if wolves got a result at the Etihad on Monday.


10.) 09 Jan 2019 11:54:44
If at the start of the season we had the chance to go into January out of both FA and Carbao cup but top of the league by 4 points and still in the CL, the whole of this site would have snapped it up, and look where we are, be positive boys we are in a better position than anyone would have imagined and playing some decent stuff. enjoy the ride while we are on it :-)


11.) 09 Jan 2019 12:10:50
That sucks tbh that we have only 5 games in 6 weeks. I want to see my team play twice a week!


12.) 09 Jan 2019 12:51:55
I'm amazed that some people think other fans are happy because we are out of both Carabao and FA Cups, simply because we are 4 points ahead. What is 4 points? One defeat and one draw, and that's very much in the realm of the current mood and momentum. If ManC win both of those 2 games, and then we'll be back to where we were 2 weeks ago, behind them. And the well known chorus will start. Out of the Carabao, out of the FA Cup, not going to win the League; Klopp out!

I'm always positive, but I can't be ecstatic about being dumped out of two competitions and holding on to a meager lead in the League. You'll know what I mean if this turns out (and continues) to be our "blip" for the season, just like ManC went through one.


13.) 09 Jan 2019 13:20:18
Brighton should be the focus. We need to get the confidence back if we're going to win the league and anything less than a win will be demoralizing.


14.) 09 Jan 2019 16:15:15
I'm with salah on this one. We will sash Brighton. Unlucky against city, everyone saying they were excellent. no they wasn't. We had enough chances and for the last 5 or 10 mind they were parking the bus. An Kompany should of gone too. As for the FA cup, wolves were as bad as us with a 1st team out and mignolet should of done better for both goals. We are 4 points clear for a reason. we deserve to be.

{Ed025's Note - its a good job your not biased magico.. :)


15.) 09 Jan 2019 17:40:46
I don’t get why we’ve had a bad couple of weeks? We lost a game away at City that we actually could’ve won.
Forget the FA Cup game if Klopp had wanted to win that we would’ve done.
I agree Brighton is vital but then so was Newcastle, Wolves and every game before that.
Just calm down lads.


16.) 10 Jan 2019 08:21:22
We pretty much controlled the wolves game but it was by passing it to the cb's while they knocked it around, moving the wolves defence about but we didn't dominate the game in their half. I don't think wolves were poor, it think our fbs were poor. Wolves played some amazing counter attack football. I've said it before but it reminded me of us last year

If the full backs had been where they should have been, then jiminez's attack would have fizzled out. Migs wasn't great but its not fair to blame him for the first goal. I would have scored that.


 

 

07 Jan 2019 07:40:57
Ed do you think we need to strengthen in January considering we have a great shot at the title? My personal opinion is that we do not need to.

I say this cause i remember not doing so in 08/ 09 when we could really have used another striker and had sold Keane after 6 months and 13/ 14 when we could have done with a defender and remember being heavily linked with yarmalenko.

I really don't know if I would be able to take it for a third time us being top on Christmas and not going on to win it. We've been through so much.

PakRed

{Ed0333's Note - I’m not sure which Ed you’re question is directed towards Park so I’ll answer it. I have the converse opinion to you and I think if Origi leaves an attacking midfielder or a striker is a must. Injuries can strike anytime and I’d rather have to many than too few. Say if two of the front 3 got injured and the same time I don’t think we have adequate cover. I wouldn’t be opposed to an attacking midfielder loan for 6 months for example.


1.) 07 Jan 2019 08:39:41
Do you think there might be anyway be suitable available though Ed0333?

{Ed0333's Note - That would have to be a yes. Who wouldn’t want to play for us and be improved by Klopp?


2.) 07 Jan 2019 09:00:24
If anything I would say we must target a left back or just play academy left back. I do not trust moreno at all. Why wait 6 months to get squad left back why not now?

And yes I totally agree that we cannot let origi go unless we bring in an attacker or recall wilson from his loan. Its just a matter of six months.


3.) 07 Jan 2019 09:19:50
That's my opinion also. Get in a forward player - preferably Fekir. Or any other forward of that quality. By June, if we've surplus, we can sort that out. But we would've the trophy already by then.


4.) 07 Jan 2019 09:29:11
Trying to get top class players in January is not easy, clubs are reluctant to sell their best players while they are still competing for their league or in European competition.
The players that are named on here that Liverpool have an interest in, are unlikely to be sold mid season.
Dembele of Barcelona maybe as a loan, I think Klopp will leave it unless a major transfer target of his became available, which seems unlikely.


5.) 07 Jan 2019 10:42:16
I’d bring in Steven Caulker on loan, can play centre half or striker if needed 👀 😂😂😂.


6.) 07 Jan 2019 11:45:15
Bring Coutinho on Loan! He knows how we play don't need to adapt and can play in Middlefield and wide forward.


7.) 07 Jan 2019 12:03:41
BB. that's not very nice. He's actually going through a very tough period now due to his mental health.


8.) 07 Jan 2019 12:30:52
I was unaware of any mental health issues sgynwa. It wasn’t aimed Caulker personally and very much tongue in cheek. : (.


9.) 07 Jan 2019 12:52:47
What I expect: we will not sign anybody. And I am ok with it
What I want/ hope: we sign a player who can play Left forward and centre forward (backup for Mane) .


10.) 07 Jan 2019 14:24:21
BB. yeah, i'm sure it was tongue in cheek and i'm sure it wasnt personal. just thought to point that out as the man has had it really tough and his condition was already affecting him while he was with us.


11.) 07 Jan 2019 14:24:35
If klopp is letting origi go and has sold solanke then I reckon he is looking at brewster and Duncan and thinking "Wow! " Duncan was an absolute goal machine in his youth days, scored like 60 odd goals a season. That's 60 goals. There is no way he would recklessly sell our attacking players without some back up plan, not in the situation we're in. Top of the league and all.


12.) 07 Jan 2019 14:59:47
If Origi goes we need another forward. One major injury and we’ll be very tight, two and we’ll struggle to have any real impact off the bench and we can’t afford that in a season like this.


13.) 07 Jan 2019 16:02:33
I agree sgred. Maybe Duncan is that guy.


14.) 07 Jan 2019 21:56:26
With all the hype about Duncan, don't overlook his partner in crime Paul Glatzel. He is also looking very good and for me, slightly more advanced.


15.) 08 Jan 2019 08:43:49
I really hope Klopp isn't going to sell Origi and keep Studge till the end of the season after last nights showing.


 

 

 

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21 Oct 2018 13:07:50
Maybe against the smaller more stubborn teams we need to play shaqiri in stead of third misfielder.

We will click, there were moments in the past 2 and a half season with klopp where we would not click as an attacking team and lost or drew games. I think we were 9th after that second int break last season.

This season the defense is supporting when we aren't scoring 3-4 goals. The goals will come im not worried.

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09 Apr 2018 07:25:05
Xabi its probably best to judge him once he has a consistent run of games under his belt. I think he can be good for us if he gets game time.

The real question is who do you prefer is the squad striker, origi or Ings? its looking like wolfsburg will not retain his services next season.

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02 Apr 2018 12:50:40
We need to get ideally a CB a GK and CDM this summer. Worst case we need to get a CB and CDM.

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28 Mar 2018 10:17:48
Origi would be marketable for teams outside the top 3 leagues, francce or portugal?

Sad about sturridge and all that potential. he's on 120 too apparently and no one will be willing to pay that.

He could also end up pulling a van persie and be injury free next two years and bang the goals in.

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09 Jan 2018 10:30:29
Alex Teixeira is back!

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21 Jan 2019 05:59:29
I think trent would be back for us against the foxes.

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17 Jan 2019 12:23:33
Well 120 mil is confirmed with just a timing issue.

Solidarity payment to inter = (120*2.5%) *3= 7.5

Solidarity payment to vasco = (120*2.5%) *3= 7.5

5 guaranteed for 25 games

10 guaranteed for knockout stages (group 5 knock out 5)

Grand worst case total = 120-15+15= 120

I know its not as simple as this but just as an approximation for us fans.

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17 Jan 2019 11:52:54
So worst case after deduction towards inter and vasco we will still end up getting 110-120 mil i guess.

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17 Jan 2019 11:09:44
Want I really wanted to comment on was would you have him back?

And I highlighted a story based on which I would say yes I would not mind having him back if situation develops that way.

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17 Jan 2019 08:49:41
I think behind the season he had told the club he wanted to leave if Barcelona came. He must have signed a new contract with no buy out clause in good faith.

We got a lot of money for him and we benefited for that. He didn't go to a rival english club.

And like the example I gave he gave all for the club when he was around.

Much better than what the like of Torres did to us.

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{Ed001's Note - how did we get a lot of money for him? We still haven't received anything like the £100m the papers talk about. I wish people would actually find out the truth before claiming others are ignorant.

He signed nothing in good faith, the reason for no buy out clause was purely because they are not legally binding in English football.}