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08 Jan 2018 09:38:12
Any news on club planning to offer new contract to firmino? I hear he gets 60 odd. Anyone know when the contract is expiring?


1.) 08 Jan 2018 10:15:36
No idea how true it is, but i read he gets a base salary of £68k a week, plus a £45k bonus per goal.

2.) 08 Jan 2018 10:18:12
I mentioned a few months back he wants to stay longer, not sure what’s happening now.

3.) 08 Jan 2018 10:28:39
Coutinho is a player we did not want to lose. Firmino is a player we cannot afford to lose. Keep this one happy at all costs I say.

4.) 08 Jan 2018 10:37:00
Christ! How must they manage on that pittance?

5.) 08 Jan 2018 10:55:34
My favorite player in the squad, even though I tend to swear in front of the TV when he misses some shots :D.

6.) 08 Jan 2018 11:15:31
Why would anyone ask that on the back of the FA investigation this week following the Derby?!?! I hardly think it’s priority number one right now!

7.) 08 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Its priority no. one right now to make sure your important players are tied down to a long term contract and are happy.

The investigation is just a formality. The real investigation should be how holgate did see red for that push.

8.) 08 Jan 2018 11:55:13
Fair enough PakRed. I can’t believe he wasn’t sent off or even get a yellow either, but subject to the outcome the dust would have to settle first before the thorny issue of a contract is approached.

{Ed002's Note - Firmino is contracted until 2020.}

9.) 08 Jan 2018 12:05:01
But in the end, how good is a long term contract. Both Suarez and Coutinho had been handed new improved and extended contracts multiple times. If a player wants out, he will eventually get on, one way or another. The only difference is that we can ask a higher price. I thinkbthe only way to avoid, or limit these enforcements, is to put in a sanctnificant sanction or fine for the player, if he mistreats his contract in a certain aspecs. But what "worldstar" would sign such deal, properly noone. Sometimes I would like football to have a draft system like in the NBA or NFL. Player prices and buyout clauses should be capped and priced by evaluation.

10.) 08 Jan 2018 12:53:20
I think these long terms contracts mean little regarding the player actually staying with the club, however, they do ensure the club gets top dollar when the player goes.

11.) 08 Jan 2018 13:27:05
Mk I think that was misinterpreted when he let mane score rather than tap it in, as he was due a bonus with his next goal!

12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:40:53
We should offer new terms asap for the player 2020 is not that far away.



25 Aug 2016 11:09:45
Reports linking us with Charlie Taylor of Leeds. Is there any truths to this ed?

I read a little bit on him and he's a left back who can also play left wing. Is on the last year of his contract and has handed over a transfer request.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool but both West Brom and Middlesbrough have spoken with Leeds about Mr Taylor.}

1.) 26 Aug 2016 16:01:05
LFC are not signing a LB this window. Expect Balo and some of the squad players to move on before end of the window. Perhaps a holding midfielder/ deep lying midfielder is the only possibility of anything coming in.


2.) 28 Aug 2016 02:43:55
I hear that Lucas leiva is a great holding mid. Should be pretty cheap too.



23 Oct 2014 09:00:07
Eds just read on metro that liverpool have lodged a 31.2 million bid for higuain? it doesn't say 'interested in' it says bid lodged, any truth to this?


{Ed002's Note - They are teasing you. No offer has been made. Liverpool might well be one of the interested clubs if he is made available for sale.}

1.) Yes that is a bid odd, although i'm not sure if higuain is such a good idea as you hear that he is a very lazy player.

I think we need a player like lavezzi who can have similar effects as suarez in terms of work rate and inspiring others. I know he is not a very good finisher but people forget that suarez early in his pool career was all huff and puff and not great finishing, so maybe rodgers can help lavezzi with that

2.) JOURNALIST: BR, BR, how do you plan on helping your defense get back to any sort of form.

BR: I'll tell you how sir. MORE STRIKERS!




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25 May 2018 06:57:01
Its been such a long wait, 2 weeks!

everyday your sitting and thinking what the result could be. I'm sick to my stomach with nerves, I really don't want us to lose now that we are so close. It will be really hard to take.




16 May 2018 11:52:17
Looking at the new coach situation at Arsenal, im surprised there isn't even a little bit of talk about Rafa being appointed there.

Given funds and time he could turn them around. Would be a better bet than Arteta considering most other coaches are out of the running.


1.) 16 May 2018 12:47:52
I've seen Rafa linked to everything. Everton, West Ham, Spurs, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Watford, Chelsea.

We've got a lady in accounts on maternity leave and Rafa is 4/ 7 to get the job until the end of the season.

2.) 16 May 2018 12:53:49
The consensus in the media appears to be that they want to keep the job in the extended arsenal family I think.

{Ed002's Note - So why waste their time talking to others and representatives of others who have nothing to do with the club historically?}

3.) 16 May 2018 13:15:52
Anyone daft enough to put money on Benitez back to Chelsea deserves sectioning!

4.) 16 May 2018 13:25:28
The amount of jobs possibly available in the prem is crazy. Arsenal west ham and everton are definites. Watford always seem to replace the manager, puel is not guarenteed to stay. Benitez is always a potential if he doesn't get backed. Conte at chelsea may also leave.

5.) 16 May 2018 13:27:26
Good to see Everton sacking a Manager who kept them up and looking to replace him with a Manager who couldn’t do the same for Hull City.

I hope Moshiri keeps Big Sam’s number in his contacts as he may need to give him a call after Christmas.

{Ed001's Note - he never kept them up, they were safely midtable when the Scam arrived to take the credit for a win under Unsworth. They did the right thing getting rid. He was holding them back.}

6.) 16 May 2018 13:32:53
I get the impression that Arsenal don't want an experienced, strong willed Manager. but someone who won't rock the boat and will tow the line in regards to the running of the club and transfer policy.

7.) 16 May 2018 13:49:09
I agree that Unsworth may have got the results that Sam got after he was appointed but, apart from the West Ham game he won, Everton were not safely in mid-table, they were plummeting fast.

Otherwise, why bring in long-ball, park-the-bus Sam to the ‘school of science’ if they were not panicking?

{Ed001's Note - no, you are wrong. They were struggling, then Unsworth pulled it around, but they had already agreed the deal with scam. They got a 4-0 win over West Ham in Rhino's last game to move up to 13th.}

8.) 16 May 2018 13:55:31
Next one in at Arsenal is the fall guy like Moyes.

Don’t bother Rafa 😉.

9.) 16 May 2018 14:29:41
I may be wrong Ed001, but not as wrong as you are. Everton sacked Kieman on 24th October and replaced him with Unsworth on a temporary basis. They placed 7 games and lost 5, winning 1 and drawing 1.

Allardyce was appointed on 29th November and Everton were in 17th position in the Premier League. That is hardly safely in mid-table, just one place above the bottom 3.

The 7 games Unsworth was in charge before the West Ham game were:
Chelsea (lost 2-1)
Leicester (lost 2-0)
Lyon (lost 3-0)
Watford (won 3-2)
Crystal Palace (drew 2-2)
Atalanta (lost 5-1)
Southampton (lost 4-1)

It is possible that Unsworth might have turned the corner with the 4-0 West Ham won but he never got the chance so we will never know.

Allardyce talks some crap but he was correct in saying that he did what he was brought in to do, which was to keep them up. Let’s face it, you don’t appoint Allardyce unless you are in trouble.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but you are wrong. You are using false information. Unsworth was still in charge when they beat West Ham, though Allardyce had been appointed, he never came on board until afterwards. Unsworth was in charge for 8 games not 7. You are just being a dick to have a dig at Everton, when you are just showing yourself to be as bitter as you no doubt call the bluenoses. You might want to check who was in the dug out during the 4-0 win over the Hammers on 29th November. I will give you a clue, it was not Fat Scam as he had been appointed too late to have any involvement with a game that was played on the same day. But then you are clearly not going to listen and just ignore what I say so I am done.}

10.) 16 May 2018 13:59:31
Ed002 - sorry should have been clearer, I was literally only talking about what the mainstream media coverage is disgussing which is what I take from 'talk' about x or y. I have no idea what the club are actually doing or thinking.

{Ed002's Note - I see OK.}

11.) 16 May 2018 19:35:32
Ed001, I’m not asking you to post this but just wanted to clarify a few things. Firstly, I love this site and look at it at leat 8 - 10 times a day. One thing I don’t like about it is that some of the Ed’s can never admit they’re wrong and simply don’t post if it proves they are wrong.

{Ed001's Note - I deleted it because I told you I was done. I haven't read any further than I have left simply to give you the answer. Now like or lump it, I really do not care. As for admitting I was wrong, when it happens I am very happy to admit it, but I wasn't, give it a rest. If you fail to understand that you submit posts for us to choose what goes up and want to throw your toys out of your pram because your post is not approved, then you are just wasting everyone's time, just like you are doing with mine right now. I told you I am done. Stop whining. I don't have to even post a single thing you say if I don't want to, but I did. The arrogance of people like you who think they have a right to tell me what to post on MY site astounds me. There is a bloody Everton site for what you were posting, but you had to waste this Liverpool site's space wittering on about them on here and then complain about not getting it all your own way. Then people wonder why we lose patience. Just give it up.}

12.) 16 May 2018 20:21:09

{Ed001's Note - you really are not getting this. It is done. Ended. Over. Bye bye I am not interested in this discussion on here. Keep going and you will just get blocked and deleted. Your choice.}



15 May 2018 09:00:07
Hi Fellow reds. So the 17/ 18 premier league season is over and I want to discuss with everyone what they thought was key matches during the season.

In my view the 2-1 against burnely in January was an extremely important result that set us up for the remainder of the season. Also the game management by Klopp during that period was spot on and helped us get results in 2018.

What was it for you guys?


1.) 15 May 2018 09:11:22
Liverpool 4 - 0 Brighton. Why? we finally got CL for next season secured lol but I think every game is important in any season, I just hope next season we can turn more draws into wins and go for the title.

2.) 15 May 2018 09:12:58
i agree that and the 2-1 win over Leicester should not be underestimated.

i am going to also be controversial but i think the 4-1 loss to Tottenham was our biggest game of the season (domestically) as it was a kick up the backside to make every player look at themselves.

the humiliation of that drove us to become a better team and have better focus on what our season goals were.

3.) 15 May 2018 09:19:49
I agree Southern Red. The 2-1 against leiceter was us just powering through the match to get the win. Never gave up.

And the 4-1 was probably important in terms of what we produced after that.

4.) 15 May 2018 09:21:09
The 2-1 win against palace
We were losing and pulled it around
The next day chelsea got beat by spurs
Those results gave us a gap which chelsea couldn't close
And let us rest players for the champions league matches.

5.) 15 May 2018 09:28:51
Totally agree with all of the above but also think the 4-3 against City. That helped us massively for the Champions League games as it showed us that we didn’t nead to fear them and that if we took the game to them we had the beating of them.

6.) 15 May 2018 09:58:20
Quite a few for me and I've bottled this up all season so I apologise in advance!

Watford 3-3. We needed to hit the ground running and a marginal offside goal which was primarily poor keeping from Mignolet, cost us the points on the opening day.

Chelsea 1-1. A game we utterly dominated, and Mignolet threw away by flapping at a cross.

Burnley 1-1. We were in complete control and then Mignolet threw it away with utterly shocking positioning, and made us chase the game.

Arsenal 3-3. We were set for victory until Mignolet let a Xhaka shot from Australia, go straight through him.

Potentially up to 8 points lost from Mignolet being pub league level at best, in half a season! He should've conceded a penalty and been booked for taking out Diouf in our 3-0 win over Stoke as well. The scoreline was so emphatic that I'd argue we could've won anyway, but that would've been more points cost by Mignolet if we hadn't.

He also single handedly got us knocked out of the FA cup with the worst goal keeping display at Anfield, in history.

Hopefully Mignolet never plays for the club again.

7.) 15 May 2018 10:02:08
Great question. I genuinely think whatever match convinced klopp to drop Mignolet was a game changer.

8.) 15 May 2018 10:03:26
You would have to say that 4th place was the bare minimum as an achievement for this squad.
Our results head-to-head against the other top 6 were a disappointment compared to last season, particularly away from home.
I still feel that the sale of Coutinho has affected the team and, if the Summer transfer information is to be believed, the fact that we are seeking a replacement is testament to that.

However, having said this, the re-invention of the playing style to a quicker, more direct model, proved to be key and for this reason I will cite the 4-3 home win over Man City.
Achieved sans Coutinho and it marked a blue print for much of what was to follow.

9.) 15 May 2018 10:04:37
Might be a controversial opinion but I think the defeats to Leicester and West Brom in the League and FA cups were important.

Getting knocked out early in the cups enabled us to focus on the league and Champions League. We've had a thin squad with not that much quality off the bench. A long run in the cups could have stretched our injury-hit squad even more.

10.) 15 May 2018 11:10:01
4-3 vs City - think it gave players the belief that they could beat anyone - they have taken that belief into the CL, as well as most league games in the second half of this season.

11.) 15 May 2018 12:53:12
Think you have a soft spot for Mignolet MK, haha.

12.) 15 May 2018 13:38:45
I do actually Lancaster 😂 he's a lovely bloke and I follow him on social media because he's so nice. If I didn't like him so much as a bloke, I wouldn't have bottled that in all season!

He is a good cheerleader to be fair. It's just a shame that a Cheerleader would make a better keeper.

13.) 15 May 2018 15:17:46
One thing in Mingolet's favour - thank god he bottled the FA Cup game for us. If we had stayed in we'd have been in the quarters and quite likely the semi's, and had that happened I can easily imagine our squad collapsing with another basically two weeks of mad fixture rush. If we had gone for the FA cup and stayed in, I'd be happy betting that we'd have finished this season without even CL football to look forward to next year. So all's well that ends well etc.

14.) 15 May 2018 18:32:10
Like SR said, it was the 4-1 loss to Spurs that did it for us, IMO. You cannot imagine how disappointed, angry, frustrated I was after the game. It was a collective meltdown from coaches all the way to the players. The media had a feeding frenzy ans so did the fans on SM and on these boards. It was this time where some where calling for Klopp's head (I know, ridiculous) . I did not read the sports pages online for a week, it was that bad. I also remember Klopp defending Lovs and the whole world wanted him sacked for that alone. I did love the way the fans supported Lovs during the worst time of his life prolly and voted him player of the month after his house was smashed and burgled.

However, the way Klopp managed that situation was brilliant. he was calm, cool and never lost his nerve during pressers after the game and before the next game (where we thumped Saints 3-0) and that was the beginning of our 18 game unbeaten run in all comps (12 unbeaten in the PL) . We would only lose 3 more PL games after that loss and then well, here we are. Up Da Pool! #TakeThe6th!

15.) 15 May 2018 23:01:30
I agree with nearly all of the above, so many games could be picked, but i’ll choose 4-3 against city. As said above it gave the team belief they could beat anybody on their day which is very important for the champions league. And other teams in the league started to have a go. Albeit it didn’t go as well for most of them

The main thing I don’t agree with from the OP is Klopp game management in 2018 being good. IMO it wasn’t. He kept reverting to 3 CB's which invited so much pressure and we had nobody to go forward and it was always very nervy to watch. I’d rather we took a page out of City's book and kept attacking for the full 90+. Obviously we don’t have the squad to maintain that so hopefully next season with some of the proposed signings we will be able to keep the intensity high for longer and have subs to continue it without overexerting the team.



14 May 2018 11:09:29
Ok so we have a negative net spend over the last few seasons.

The foundation have been strengthen this season, I would really like us to go an get some finished articles and a full on assault on the premier league.

Have full faith in Klopp and recruitment team for however they want to target.


1.) 14 May 2018 11:32:07
First of i would like a good CB be bought in place one of matip/ klavan. I want Klopp to make that CB be Toby Alderwield.
Look every damn team in the world right now that plays football and is winning something is need on of a CB and i know the argument why will he ever sign for us, but i don't care go out and get him what ever it costs. likes of De ligt, yerry mina would not solve our problems. Either get Toby or get Boateng from Bayern.

End of story. Then buy whoever you want or lust for. But please i cannot see another season with CBs costing us games.
I mean surely u look for depth once your first team is fixed and CB is a position in First team that needs fixing and definitely has to be priority.

After that - yea fekir, ronaldo, messi, the king of wales, the duke of myasshsire, whoever. But please a boss level CB first .

2.) 14 May 2018 11:56:49
I agree on Alderweireld, he’d obviously be massive for us. But it is, at best, unlikely I would have thought. Interesting choice on Boateng, I’ve always thought he is a far better international player than club player - I think one of the Eds said something similar about Hummels. Both are excellent on the ball, but are slow and lack defensive nous.
If only Lovren didn’t have the lapses in concentration, because he is quality when fully at it.

3.) 14 May 2018 12:03:53
Firstly, we only have a negative spend because the Keita sale is not included in the latest figures. Next, most of us moan that the youngsters are leaving us but we constantly moan that we should get the "finished article" which would diminish the chances even further. Finally I think it's far more important that we keep our very best players on renewed contracts showing that we are not a feeder club for the Spanish poachers and that the club move forward with the additional stadium expansion. I would be happy with a CB, Keita and another midfielder but any others would depend on those leaving and those in our youngsters that can take a few growing opportunities.

4.) 14 May 2018 12:07:03
Would take Alderweireld but not Boateng. He has really dropped off the pace in recent years.

If money was no object, I'd go all in for Milan Skriniar though. He is awesome.

5.) 14 May 2018 12:08:46
Klopp is like Shanks! He is very loyal to some players. Lovren and Wijnaldum are two who are not going anywhere! Matip might move and Gomez might get some minutes! Klavan to be the 3rd choice.
We just have to accept this and move on!
I really hope he has no loyalty sentiments towards Moreno! We need a left back! Robertson cannot play 60 games next season! Moreno is not good enough to be a cover just like Mignolet!

6.) 14 May 2018 12:41:34
Upamecano for me he is a beast and 19 years old!

7.) 14 May 2018 13:25:12
for me Nastastic
he might be on a free as well and has had a cracking season for Schalke.

8.) 14 May 2018 13:37:32
Wijnaldum needs someone to dig him in the face every game before he leaves the changing room. When he is on it he is very good. Been he has been the most fustrating player for me personally to watch all season.
He has all the qualities to be an absolute boss in midfield. Great technique, quick feet, strength and initial burst of pace. He is actually quite good in tight spaces when he is brave enough to carry the ball foward.
I just get the impression he has been told that his job is to make sure we hold on to the ball and lrave the adventurous play to others. If that's not the case then someone needs to get into his head and tell him he's a killer.
He seems like a very genuine guy too so i hope he stays. All good squads need a certain amount of level headed characters about.
On the other hand if lovern would just add a bit more calmness to his game he could be even better. Seems like his mind is going 100 miles a minute at times. Sometimes that helps but it does often lead to some poor positioning.

9.) 14 May 2018 13:39:46
What if boateng or alderwereild don't want to leave or come Liverpool?

10.) 14 May 2018 15:15:02
Get Upamecano.

11.) 14 May 2018 15:58:35
I think Matthias Ginter (Borussia Monchengladbach) is worth a look.

12.) 14 May 2018 17:08:56
Is Negative Net Spend Walter's new name?



02 May 2018 17:23:20
Those damn butterflies, the anxious nervous wait and the bad feeling. Hope we go through, haven't been here in ten years.


1.) 02 May 2018 17:48:01
The only thing that could get us is any red cards *cough* Mane *cough* Lovren.
Otherwise, do the business Redmen.

2.) 02 May 2018 18:09:50
Good luck Ed 001 and all you reds!

{Ed001's Note - cheers S23, hopefully we won't need luck though!}

3.) 02 May 2018 18:27:13
Nice one spurs23. C'mon you redmen💪 let's do this 💯. Got a good feeling about this!




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09 Apr 2018 07:25:05
Xabi its probably best to judge him once he has a consistent run of games under his belt. I think he can be good for us if he gets game time.

The real question is who do you prefer is the squad striker, origi or Ings? its looking like wolfsburg will not retain his services next season.




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02 Apr 2018 12:50:40
We need to get ideally a CB a GK and CDM this summer. Worst case we need to get a CB and CDM.




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28 Mar 2018 10:17:48
Origi would be marketable for teams outside the top 3 leagues, francce or portugal?

Sad about sturridge and all that potential. he's on 120 too apparently and no one will be willing to pay that.

He could also end up pulling a van persie and be injury free next two years and bang the goals in.




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09 Jan 2018 10:30:29
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08 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Its priority no. one right now to make sure your important players are tied down to a long term contract and are happy.

The investigation is just a formality. The real investigation should be how holgate did see red for that push.





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24 May 2018 07:54:18
I wouldn't say more than happy but that I will understand if a CB and CDM are prioritized over a GK next season.




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16 May 2018 10:40:08
Aguero was also flagged offside so it would not have counted anyways.

The main reason is squad depth. If we had better players to bring on from the bench then things would be different.

Also a much shakier defence and gk. This seams to have been addressed but we need another cb in there inplace of matip.

So basically somethings wrong with tactics if next season after the expected recruitment and the defensive make up we still fail to mount a decent challenge.




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15 May 2018 12:26:42
Think trents cross for Salah's goal, against bournmouth i think was really really good to and worth mentioning if we are mentioning crosses.

His crosses through that game were a pleasure to watch.




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15 May 2018 09:19:49
I agree Southern Red. The 2-1 against leiceter was us just powering through the match to get the win. Never gave up.

And the 4-1 was probably important in terms of what we produced after that.




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14 May 2018 08:04:43
I think at the moment Karius is probably in the same frame as butland. Is there any point in getting him? two goal keepers at the same level?

If we get a gk it should either be pure back up for Karius or a clear number 1.

I would be ok if we have karius as no.1 next season but get a good centerback in. Looks like Matip might be on his way out or something.