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08 Jan 2018 09:38:12
Any news on club planning to offer new contract to firmino? I hear he gets 60 odd. Anyone know when the contract is expiring?


1.) 08 Jan 2018 10:15:36
No idea how true it is, but i read he gets a base salary of £68k a week, plus a £45k bonus per goal.

2.) 08 Jan 2018 10:18:12
I mentioned a few months back he wants to stay longer, not sure what’s happening now.

3.) 08 Jan 2018 10:28:39
Coutinho is a player we did not want to lose. Firmino is a player we cannot afford to lose. Keep this one happy at all costs I say.

4.) 08 Jan 2018 10:37:00
Christ! How must they manage on that pittance?

5.) 08 Jan 2018 10:55:34
My favorite player in the squad, even though I tend to swear in front of the TV when he misses some shots :D.

6.) 08 Jan 2018 11:15:31
Why would anyone ask that on the back of the FA investigation this week following the Derby?!?! I hardly think it’s priority number one right now!

7.) 08 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Its priority no. one right now to make sure your important players are tied down to a long term contract and are happy.

The investigation is just a formality. The real investigation should be how holgate did see red for that push.

8.) 08 Jan 2018 11:55:13
Fair enough PakRed. I can’t believe he wasn’t sent off or even get a yellow either, but subject to the outcome the dust would have to settle first before the thorny issue of a contract is approached.

{Ed002's Note - Firmino is contracted until 2020.}

9.) 08 Jan 2018 12:05:01
But in the end, how good is a long term contract. Both Suarez and Coutinho had been handed new improved and extended contracts multiple times. If a player wants out, he will eventually get on, one way or another. The only difference is that we can ask a higher price. I thinkbthe only way to avoid, or limit these enforcements, is to put in a sanctnificant sanction or fine for the player, if he mistreats his contract in a certain aspecs. But what "worldstar" would sign such deal, properly noone. Sometimes I would like football to have a draft system like in the NBA or NFL. Player prices and buyout clauses should be capped and priced by evaluation.

10.) 08 Jan 2018 12:53:20
I think these long terms contracts mean little regarding the player actually staying with the club, however, they do ensure the club gets top dollar when the player goes.

11.) 08 Jan 2018 13:27:05
Mk I think that was misinterpreted when he let mane score rather than tap it in, as he was due a bonus with his next goal!

12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:40:53
We should offer new terms asap for the player 2020 is not that far away.



25 Aug 2016 11:09:45
Reports linking us with Charlie Taylor of Leeds. Is there any truths to this ed?

I read a little bit on him and he's a left back who can also play left wing. Is on the last year of his contract and has handed over a transfer request.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool but both West Brom and Middlesbrough have spoken with Leeds about Mr Taylor.}

1.) 26 Aug 2016 16:01:05
LFC are not signing a LB this window. Expect Balo and some of the squad players to move on before end of the window. Perhaps a holding midfielder/ deep lying midfielder is the only possibility of anything coming in.


2.) 28 Aug 2016 02:43:55
I hear that Lucas leiva is a great holding mid. Should be pretty cheap too.



23 Oct 2014 09:00:07
Eds just read on metro that liverpool have lodged a 31.2 million bid for higuain? it doesn't say 'interested in' it says bid lodged, any truth to this?


{Ed002's Note - They are teasing you. No offer has been made. Liverpool might well be one of the interested clubs if he is made available for sale.}

1.) Yes that is a bid odd, although i'm not sure if higuain is such a good idea as you hear that he is a very lazy player.

I think we need a player like lavezzi who can have similar effects as suarez in terms of work rate and inspiring others. I know he is not a very good finisher but people forget that suarez early in his pool career was all huff and puff and not great finishing, so maybe rodgers can help lavezzi with that

2.) JOURNALIST: BR, BR, how do you plan on helping your defense get back to any sort of form.

BR: I'll tell you how sir. MORE STRIKERS!




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14 Sep 2018 10:58:44
Hi All,

Mancity have announced record revenue this season cross 500 million for year ended June 2018. They are only the second club to do say in premier league i think.

Liverpool's last year revenue was 364 million (year ended May 2017).

I think if our general revenue stream from past year have remained stable and with the CL money and additional admission money we should be able to reach the 500 million mark too.

Wont find out until next year though i think as May 2017 was published in Feb/ March this year.


1.) 14 Sep 2018 12:15:03
So what’s your point?

Why the interest in money?

What ever happened to the days of football just being about the football?

It’s the same with the obsession over the actual costs of the transfers. Why does it really matter?

Red Sandman.

2.) 14 Sep 2018 12:40:06
Football is football, being in a good place financially is better for football on the pitch allows you to invest in players, training ground facilities etc.

I don't know why you have to snap like this. The actual football is no1 but some people are interested in other things regarding the club too.

3.) 14 Sep 2018 12:47:21
Some people have a multi faceted interest in the things that they like.

For example, I am mad about trees. They are crazily interesting things that most people have no idea about other than to say “Ooh that’s a big tree”, or whatever. I could be into trees and just know the names of the species ( i. e watching football and knowing teams and players etc), which is what Sandman seemed to be alluding to. That’s all fine but then when you dig down into how they work, control ecosystems, talk to eachother, keep eachother alive etc (to which an ignoramus would say it’s mumbo jumbo, but then I would ask you to read a bit before making conclusions), you find out there is more to it than just saying, “whatever happened to the days of trees just being trees”?

This is a proper ramble, I apologise, but my point is just because you want to merely watch and enjoy the sporting side of things does not mean that interest should not be found in the other parts of the game as well.

4.) 14 Sep 2018 13:21:59
That was a fine rant Angry Bardzo.

Ever thought about branching out into a daily rant, a bit like “what really grinds by gears” by Peter Griffin?

You could be at the beech-head of such a movement where people can just be themselves and indulge their (innocent) interests.

People shouldn’t be able to just limit discussions to a narrow boundaries by playing the “oh that old hoary chestnut” line.

You often need to explore a topic in depth to get to the root of it.

I salute your crusade to live and let live, and your words do not upset me one little bit, I’m sure your bark is much worse than your bite.

So continue this crusade and I’m sure it will gather traction - from little acorns do mighty oaks grow.

Just twigged?

I’ll leave.


5.) 14 Sep 2018 13:56:43
Fair play Zed. Not sure how long that took you but gave me a well needed Friday chuckle mate. 😂.

6.) 14 Sep 2018 14:08:11
Ha! Zeddicus, my friend, you must have grown on a tree, because you are a nut!

I must admit, I do like a good rant. Some things you just have to get off of your chest. If I didn't, I might turn form Angry to Apoplectic and nobody wants that so there you go, one membership to the Piss and Moan About Everything Club please.

7.) 14 Sep 2018 15:08:02
Really hope the "branching out" was intended. Classic.

8.) 14 Sep 2018 16:41:03
2 lines in I knew Zeddicus was up to mischief. 😆.

9.) 14 Sep 2018 17:41:57
You love big lumps of wood that don’t move Bardzo? You must’ve been gutted when Benteke left ;)

{Ed025's Note - i like that bobby..

10.) 14 Sep 2018 18:06:49
😂 cheers Ed.

11.) 14 Sep 2018 22:25:32
You would certainly think so, but not really Bobby. All trees are doing more while standing still than Benteke does while moving around. I still can’t believe we recouped as much as we did for him.



03 Sep 2018 10:34:14
Hey eds what's have you made of our defense so far this season in terms of handling set plays and the last 10-15 mins of pressure put by opposition when we are winning a game.

During the last three games even with 1 nil leads i felt more relaxed (feared I would jinx it by being relaxed but was relaxed non the less) .


{Ed001's Note - they seem much more solid and better organised this season. Also they are attacking the ball better when it comes in, in general as well as in set pieces.}

1.) 03 Sep 2018 19:42:41
Gomes has impressed me loads. Looks a very capable centre half. Hope he stays injury free.



01 Sep 2018 21:45:17
I don't care how we gor here but the league table looks so beautiful. Not in all my time supporting liverpool have we won our first four league games.

I said here the other day that Alisson might get caught out with him taking too much time from the back. The signs where there from the brighton game.

Im glad it didn't cost us any point and im very confident that he will sort it out.


1.) 01 Sep 2018 21:54:52
Get used to seeing us in the 1st spot mate because that's where we'll end up! Alisson will be a key player for us this season and once we win the league everybody will be singing his praises :) .

2.) 01 Sep 2018 22:21:48
Maximum points from first 4 games is nothing to sneeze at. THAT SAID, there were some shocking performances in that game. Bobbie, VVD, Wiji and even Salah, were pretty poor. More importantly, there is something even more concerning than this or Allisson's mistake (for which VVD is part of, by the way), there is something terribly wrong with the way we seem to fade away in the second half of games in the past two games. LFC has had NO shots on target and NO chances created in the past two games. We also lack any kind of energy, direction, and fluidity in our game in second halves and seem very tired, ragged and lack lucidity in the final third. It is early doors still BUT just wanted to point that out. After all, we can be happy with our points haul and still be concerned with glaring issues within the team UPO DA :POOL!

3.) 01 Sep 2018 22:51:12
Do think we have looked a little sluggish from after the West Ham game. Yes cool and calm, confident, but maybe too so. Were known for pace urgency fire, but at the moment it feels like watching Brazil play a minnow, and we think were too good.

4.) 01 Sep 2018 23:01:06
I think this is all deliberate BRover.
I think it’s part of the Klopp plan. Prior to this season we couldn’t sit back on a 2 goal lead because we were so open at the back. We had to keep going full throttle to win and it was physically draining. Hence we struggled to maintain the consistency and we picked up some injuries in the second half of the season.

This season we are MUCH stronger at the back and we don’t need to score 4 to see the game out. I don’t think we’ve really got out of 3rd gear yet but we have 12 points. Fabinho hasn’t even played yet,

We have a stronger squad by far and a much more solid backline. Things are looking good.

5.) 01 Sep 2018 23:37:16
Totally agree Ron, I'm happy getting 3 points and playing badly. When we play the other top 6 teams, our intensity will increase.

It's a long season, we need to save energy. I wouldn't be surprised to see us playing big games to get a lead and then sit back. With our front 3, we'll always be a danger for teams and when they over commit players forward, we can nick another 1.

6.) 02 Sep 2018 00:28:41
This will probably be the first and last time I ever say this - but the international break has come at a really good time for us.

Let’s some players ‘reset’ and going away for the first time I can remember on the back off really good results (despite performances)

I imagine going into the break on a lose is the worst, given you can’t get out there to turn things around for another 2 weeks!

7.) 02 Sep 2018 03:54:09
I don’t get people saying we played poorly. Thought we looked like a composed side defending (and controlling) a lead. (minus the Alisson howler)

8.) 02 Sep 2018 08:03:55
Our attack hasn't clicked yet. It could be world cup hanger over, building up fittness or teams getting better at stoping us from playing.

I think the spurs match would get the intensity up for the players as they look to get revenge for last years drubbing.

9.) 02 Sep 2018 09:27:27
I only saw the second half but I agree with BRover. Even if conserving energy is part of a strategy, it could have backfired because we had no cohesion in the passing, looked a bit frail in midfield (which surprised me), and were slow and clumsy on the counter. So we were under pressure for the entire half and could easily have dropped two points. Delighted with our position in the table but I think BRover is right, there are some warning lights flashing. It will be interesting to see what Klopp does to address it.

10.) 02 Sep 2018 14:08:37
Great result. Liverpool are not even out of second gear yet. We have a class squad and we really could win this league. We need to pace ourselves.

On the negative, I said earlier that alisson is going to cost us with that messing about. We paid big money for the saves, which we've had, the distribution, which we've had. Not keepy uppies.

Also, last season I really thought salah was being so flukey. Every thing he hit went in. I said mane for top goal scorer and it's looking good. I think salah will go 20+ but I don't think we are going to see 40 odd again. Also I don't like this rivalry between salah and mane. Salah could have passed to mane who would have had a tap in, instead he wasted it. Thought the front three were amazing BTW.

Joe gomez value? 40mil? 50mil?



30 Aug 2018 06:53:26
Hello Reds,

How many of you feel that a deep run in the league cup maybe be a problem for us in other competitions?

The January/ Feb semi finals really add to the fatigue with teams coming a busy Christmas period.


1.) 30 Aug 2018 07:02:27
We should be aiming to go as far as possible in each competition we compete in, i. e looking to win each one. We have a squad for this reason, more games equals more game time available for all players.

2.) 30 Aug 2018 07:06:23
I'm not too concerned about that mate, we have a large squad to be rotated and I fully expect a lot of rotation this season, we'll be alright.

The way I look at it is there will be plenty of teams going through the same as us so there's no excuses, we have a quality squad who are more than capable of winning things this season. We'll have our bad days and we'll see our lads tired from time to time but that's football, it happens and we move on.

Sit back and enjoy the ride mate because this season will be one we'll never forget.

3.) 30 Aug 2018 07:12:56
I understand that and agree with that. But sometimes getting knocked out early can be a blessing in disguise.

More recovery time more time to work on the training ground.

4.) 30 Aug 2018 07:18:13
Focus on the league and CL. The rest are pointless. We don’t have the squad for all 4 competitions. We have names not quality reserve players like City. Our second team won’t win any domestic cups without first teamers.

5.) 30 Aug 2018 07:55:13
I think we have the talent in depth. Who would've thought Gini would be keeping out Fabinho? Look at Milner's assist stats from last year's UCL. Plus he's keeping our captain out of the team. I expect Sturridge and Shaqiri to really go for it in these cups. Even Llana if he can find his form of 2 seasons ago. Lovren will need these games to stake a claim to a starting position. Moreno, Clyne and Matip can also get games and do well in these competitions. Plus we have youngsters like Phillips and others that we saw in pre season. So I think these cups could help those players maintain match fitness.

6.) 30 Aug 2018 08:48:07
We have a decent sized squad now, it really shouldn't be a problem. Anyway, you're not tired when you're winning ;)

7.) 30 Aug 2018 09:27:55

Lol Gini is not keeping anyone out. Fabinho is struggling to adapt to our style. Lallana was replaced by every new signings ( AOC last year, Shaqiri this year ) .
Wijnaldum and Henderson are cover for the first team.

8.) 30 Aug 2018 10:21:09
I would love for us to win all competitions but that rarely happens.

Call me a realist but if it were to happen where we go deep into two competitions I would chose the league and then the fa cup.

9.) 30 Aug 2018 10:36:06

I was referring to the Lallana of 2 seasons ago. I never said he would definitely regain that form. I meant that these cups would give him opportunities to do so. I didn't say anymore than that.
As for Wijnaldum's role in the squad, time will tell. What we can say is that he has taken his chance and he's made people take notice. He'll be hard to drop based on his performances so far.
We've got a few youngsters like Camacho waiting in the wings who won't get opportunties outside of these cups.
People are comparing us to City in the wrong way. City has the more talent based on skill levels. Our players have a balance of athleticism and skill. The pace of our game is like Bayern's according Balugon (excuse my spelling) . Players like Gini, Gomez are extremely athletic. Keita and Mane and Salah are just as athletic as they are skilful. So is AOC. That's why he was preferred over Lallana imo and that's why Klopp chose to play him through the middle. So he could use his athleticism to break through in dangerous areas. Shaqiri is good passer with long range bombs so I expect him to be a threat in the same area of the pitch as AOC but not for his atleticism even though he is no slouch if he comes with the right attitude. I think Klopp will get it out of him.

10.) 30 Aug 2018 11:55:23
At this juncture, and given the time he has been with LFC and the money he has spent, Klopp absolutely has to win something. Of course, EPL title and UCL are first priorities, but he has to be able to show tangible progress of the team and titles and cups are what are always considered and remembered. So he has to manage it that full effort is placed in all cup participations, as well. If he doesn't win anything this season, I'm not sure that eyebrows wouldn't be raised and questins asked. After all, how many people would stay quiet if Guardiola, Mourinho, Ancellotti or Heynckes didn't win anything for 3 years? The question of having enough of a good squad or not is actually not that relevant. Klopp came to LFC with the reputation of doing more with less. He simply has no choice but to go for titles and cups in all shapes and forms.

11.) 30 Aug 2018 13:03:27
I agree Aray1969, he has to win something and maybe needs to prioritize a little bit. He knows he has to win something.

Not that I won't back him if he doesn't but he and us we all deserve this team to win something.

There is point in going far and being runner up in 4 competitions. I'd rather have us win one competition.

12.) 30 Aug 2018 13:04:20
You are wrong on Lallana my dear friend Other than a mere 6 months out of 4 years Adam Lallana has been bang average. He is never going to replicate anything. His stats are poor than a for defensive midfielder in terms of Goals and Assists. He is just there Coz nobody were willing to take him for the money we could have asked for / Due to AOC injury.

There is no comparison over players with City. They are far superior, let’s jus accept it. Does that mean they will win the league? No, conte won it parking the bus so does Mourinho.

Can you tell me why is he not playing shaqiri? You are contradicting fat too much in your post mate. There are some good players at Liverpool but our bench and reserves are far aaay from what city have!

13.) 30 Aug 2018 17:55:33

I understand that City has bought some of the best players in the world. There's no denying that. But can you name any City players that could beat Mane, Salah, AOC, Gomez or Keita in a foot race. Sane? Maybe Sterling? Some times you need to to call on your bull dogs like Milner, Hendo and Robbo. Klopp's game is based on quick counters. Forget skill for a minute and look at how swiftly and easily Wijnaldum shifts and turns his body. That's what keeps him in the starting line up. The way he turns the play around so effortlessly.
As for Lallana if we have him in the squad then to be fair give him a go in these cups. I understand that he may not be good enough but use these competitions to gauge that.
Nobody is being arrogant. Just saying we scored zero games against City in the first game. Then we beat them 3 times in a row 11 goals along the way. There must be some credit you can give us. We've improved defense and midfield since then. So with out trying to sound arrogant I believe that the gap between us and City isn't that big as a team playing to a suitable strategy. Maybe as individual players then I'll agree that they are more talented though.

14.) 30 Aug 2018 19:41:07
Win every game - end of story 👍.



29 Aug 2018 08:06:27
So excited for tomorrow champion's league draw. The good times are back! missed the whole CL scene when we were out of it.

Hoping porto lose tonight and we can go to pot 2.

Eds do you know when league cup draw is expected?


{Ed001's Note - I am pretty sure it is tonight or tomorrow.}

1.) 29 Aug 2018 09:43:24
It's tomorrow at 6pm (England)

{Ed002's Note - It will not start for a while after that - plenty of tiresome introductions. The League Cup draw will clash with it.}

2.) 29 Aug 2018 09:43:54
Actually it is Benfica that is playing tonight. Porto have already qualified for the Group Stage. The draw is tomorrow starting at 18.00 CET and if Benfica get through they will push Liverpool into Pot 3 having a better co-efficient at the moment. The team of last season's tournament will also be selected. I think that being in Pot 2 will be an advantage but if we are going to do well again we have to beat a lot of good teams and we have proved that we can do that!

3.) 29 Aug 2018 10:03:28
Whatever pot we’re in, no team will want to be in our group. There is no team I would hope to avoid.
We went all the way to the final last year and we have significantly improved our squad.
Make no mistake, we will be one of the favourites regardless of coefficient. 👍.

4.) 29 Aug 2018 11:21:01
The draw means very little to me, in order to be the best we have to beat the best. The only thing that is a given is that united will have the easiest group and still somehow balls it up.

5.) 29 Aug 2018 12:38:49
For me a harder CL group will not be the issue as I think we raise our game on CL nights and the better the opposition the higher we raise it. The problem for me though is the league game that comes immediately after these big European nights.

6.) 29 Aug 2018 13:00:24
I agree with Ron but I want Real Madrid in our group. I'm certain will can beat them this time around with the loss of Ronaldo for them and our new additions. They got lucky in the final, they would need to get lucky again to beat us.

7.) 29 Aug 2018 13:11:35
I completely agree with Ron.

I can't imagine any team wanting to be in the same group as us. We've got to be confident and determined to go one better than last season.

I have to admit, I would love to meet Real again.

8.) 29 Aug 2018 13:12:16
Benfica go to PAOK having drawn the home leg 1-1.
Still think they will progress.

9.) 29 Aug 2018 19:37:54
As much as you say we can beat anyone, I’d still rather be in pot two, and not have to face maybe two of the big boys. I wouldn’t say any run is easy, but Madrid beat Bayern, Juve and PSG to get to the final, so in my book, deserve the win. Roma as a semi final is as good as it gets reall at that stage, so if we can avoid a big hitter until the quarters then I am all for it.

10.) 29 Aug 2018 21:38:32
I genuinely don't care which pot we are in. We are the team in pot 3 that other teams will be hoping to avoid. We have no reason to fear any team.

Saying that, id love us to beat Barcelona with Keita bossing Coutinho would be lovely.




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09 Apr 2018 07:25:05
Xabi its probably best to judge him once he has a consistent run of games under his belt. I think he can be good for us if he gets game time.

The real question is who do you prefer is the squad striker, origi or Ings? its looking like wolfsburg will not retain his services next season.




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02 Apr 2018 12:50:40
We need to get ideally a CB a GK and CDM this summer. Worst case we need to get a CB and CDM.




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28 Mar 2018 10:17:48
Origi would be marketable for teams outside the top 3 leagues, francce or portugal?

Sad about sturridge and all that potential. he's on 120 too apparently and no one will be willing to pay that.

He could also end up pulling a van persie and be injury free next two years and bang the goals in.




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09 Jan 2018 10:30:29
Alex Teixeira is back!




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08 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Its priority no. one right now to make sure your important players are tied down to a long term contract and are happy.

The investigation is just a formality. The real investigation should be how holgate did see red for that push.





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17 Sep 2018 12:23:13
Journos need something to talk about. They have not made the best decision in the past few games but it will get better.




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17 Sep 2018 10:29:58
Firmino Tweeted that he's fine and that it was just a scare and precaution to go off.




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17 Sep 2018 07:47:58
I think the team's chemistry and finishing is going to get better over the next few games. A lot of them didn't play together in preseason. They just came back from intl break for spurs game.

With now a run of games (one every 3-4 days) we should see better in terms of interplay and finishing.

Although I agree with Salah, I'd take 1-0 wins all day.




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14 Sep 2018 12:40:06
Football is football, being in a good place financially is better for football on the pitch allows you to invest in players, training ground facilities etc.

I don't know why you have to snap like this. The actual football is no1 but some people are interested in other things regarding the club too.




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13 Sep 2018 09:33:52
I can understand Mane's parents point of we but glad he kept his determination and was able to make it as a footballer.