Liverpool Banter Archive January 16 2018

 

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16 Jan 2018 22:16:37
Hi Eds. Do you see Liverpool trying to buy anyone in this window or do you think its going to be a quiet one.

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{Ed002's Note - I visualise a CB with nice hands who wears mascara.}

16 Jan 2018 22:28:37
Wonder dog sparky has abducted Ed002! Quick someone call his rodeo clown friends and I’ll check with thinkerbell if he knows his (or hers Ed002 may be a her) whereabouts.


16 Jan 2018 22:31:12
dosnt he play for Everton ed 😅.


16 Jan 2018 22:43:24
He asked for a football opinion, Ed, not your next tinder search profile.


16 Jan 2018 23:38:07
Who the hell searches for a centre back on a dating site? The only reason they're there is to stop you from scoring!

As a guy who likes going from box to box, getting up and down for 90 minutes, i try not to limit my criteria. I'm open minded and won't stick to one position.


{Ed033's Note - You're not one of those Gender Fluid 'Theys' are you?

16 Jan 2018 23:49:05
Totally fluid. Today i identified as a Kettle.


{Ed033's Note - Apparently there are going to be 1 or more questions about what people identify as in the next Census. They want to know just how many people don't identify as male or female.

17 Jan 2018 00:19:13
Altogether too much mention of unidentified fluids in this context thank you very much indeed.


{Ed033's Note - I suppose people could identify as an unidentified fluid object.

17 Jan 2018 00:30:10
Well that'd certainly have the statisticians stumped!


17 Jan 2018 07:19:59
I identify as a Hedgehog, as such my boss has to let me have 4 months off during winter on full pay as I hibernate.


{Ed025's Note - i indentify an an evertonian so should be treated with sympathy and understanding..

17 Jan 2018 08:28:29
Doesn't Bartra wear mascara aha!


17 Jan 2018 09:38:21
Does your wife get carer's allowance ed025? Sorry mate lol.


{Ed025's Note - she should do lord.. :)

16 Jan 2018 22:16:22
Goalkeepers always need time to settle. De Gea was pilloried in his first year but that looks pretty silly now.
It helps if they have a solid defence in front of them. Virgil should bring that.
I've read the site for years but never registered to post before. But I was baffled by the abuse heaped on Karius.
He was an excellent keeper before he signed. You can't write him off after one game against the best team in the league.
He made some mistakes but can you imagine the pressure? Do you remember the cock ups you made on your first day at work as you tried to impress?
Anyway, he's probably the keeper for the rest of the season, so why not get off his back and let him try to settle?

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16 Jan 2018 22:23:31
People will disagree but I do think given time he can be a top keeper.


16 Jan 2018 23:32:13
The abuse is unreal and it is why Klopp has tried to not play him much. To protect him. And probably why when he gets a chance he is shaky and makes us shaky too because he knows 1 mistake will make social media explode with insults and threats.
Good run of games is what he needs to eventually calm his nerves and get used to the persons who constantly give him crap.


17 Jan 2018 00:29:39
De Gea started really rough at the Mancs and is now regarded best in world. Perhaps with vvd in the defence a stable structure Karius could come good. He deserves a chance at least.


{Ed0333's Note - yes he does deserve a chance sparky

17 Jan 2018 01:05:59
Its not only the mistakes with Karius and I do understand keepers and players need time to settle but if you look carefully at his positioning and anticipation when the opposition shoot and narrowly miss you would see its minimal so he has no chance to save it unless his judgement of a shot going wide is that good which I doubt. For me he will be an average keeper at best. Its all we have and luckily for him Liverpool don't give oppositions many chances so we should get away with average for now. Just my opinion as a coach but could be wrong.


17 Jan 2018 05:52:27
I agree that Karius should deserves more gametime before we judge him. But something that i worry a lot about, are the fact that i have noticed him standing on his heels when shots are being fired. Its a basic, and crucial, knowledge that a keeper should be on his front foot when a shoot is released. I don't know the exact english word for it, but he should also do a little bias (? ) jump to charge the muscles so he react as fast as possible. Either he can't handle the pressure and shokes ore the goalkeeper trainer is not doing his job. Because the Karius we signed did not have this bad habbit.


{Ed001's Note - I think the word you are looking for is bounce. It must be said that we know that Achteberg has not impressed for a long time, as none of the keepers have improved under him sadly. Nice guy who is still learning but he needs someone to help him.}

17 Jan 2018 09:41:26
Cheers for the reply Ed, i appreciate the inside info on Achteberg, did not want to judge him without ever seen him in work. But his result everyone can see. I reckon Mignolet has gotten a bit better in air, maybe also a little better with his feets. But not good enough.
And thanks for helping me out with the language!
You are all doing a fantastic job. Keep it up!


{Ed001's Note - it is very difficult to criticise Achteberg too much as he is a nice guy and he is doing his best and working very hard on learning more about coaching goalkeepers. He did his A license (I think it was his A anyway) in the summer, for instance. He is not just saying he knows it all and refusing to look to improve on his work. Personally I feel the issue is that he should have been the junior coach to a senior gk coach who he could have worked with and learnt from. As it is, he has been thrown in at the deep end and is trying to learn on the job, with no one to learn off. Not easy for anyone. The club needs to give him more support.}

16 Jan 2018 22:12:06
I just heard that Emre Can played ill vs City. If that is true then it did not show as he had a blinder. MAD PROPS to the lad cos he played his heart out in that game and was brilliant in the press. Take a bow, son.

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16 Jan 2018 22:46:46
I don't rate him but he was excellent.


16 Jan 2018 23:33:10
Yeah Klopp said post-match the reason he brought him off was because he was ill even before the game.
I thought it was a huge mistake to take him off until I hears him say why lol.


17 Jan 2018 01:29:45
Even if he was ill, bringing on milner to control the midfield is never the answer.


16 Jan 2018 21:48:38
What's up, reds and Ed's,

Great result and the momentum is on our side going forward hopefully. I just wanted to comment on one thing that stood out to me in our approach to the game. I sum it in one word: TRUST. Klopp has his core beliefs and we all know what that or those are and he will NEVER deviate from them. Klopp trusted his ethos as in playing on the front foot, press City in their own half, force mistakes, play with flair, energy and bravery and then punish them when the chances come cos THEY WILL. Klopp trusted that we will do this and trusted that our back line and CB's would hold up vs their front line and if we are going to get beat, it will be on our terms BUT we won't get beat. Why? Cos we are the EFFING BEST at what we do (Spurs and Arsenal tried it and got slaughtered) and City will have no answer for us IF they play the way we know they will as in, passing out the back at every turn.

Well as the game went on, we all saw the courage, belief, guile, work ethic and team spirit we played with which was breathe-taking at times (I'm looking at you, Robbo) . But what I saw defensively and we are not getting enough credit for it by many in the media.

Our full backs kept Sane and Sterling quiet virtually ALL game (bar the goal) and our CB's shut down Aguero. And to cap it all, I observed that Lovren often stepped out from CB to press DeBruyne or Gundogan in midfield to win the ball. That takes some B*LLS to do for Klopp to tell the his CB to step up in midfield and press them high. The fact is that we dictated the way the game would be played and they shrunk when the going got tough. There were mistakes all over the shop at City that even Ederson made arguably 3 times more mistakes that Karius did. Go figure.

All in all, we should be proud of our boys for the courage they showed in taking the game to City and punching the bully in the mouth to gain our respect as respect if not earned, MUST be taken. We took ours. Red Till I'm Dead!

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{Ed025's Note - good read that brover..

16 Jan 2018 22:21:24
I agree with all you said mate. Good observations. The team player brilliantly and I struggle to fault any of them overall. The only thing I’d say though would be the game finished 4-3 and 9 times out of 10 we turn up to the big games. There are still issues with our defence, the game should have been seen out at 4-1. We also need to make sure the same intensity is there against the lesser sides.


16 Jan 2018 22:23:38
great post Bro, spot on, the team bought into Klopps game plan, and wow, we looked the better team and it brought the best out of most of the players, and the fans also made it a game to remember too,
I am still buzzing, and think that the Ox and Robbo really made a name for themselves, just to keep on improving, and stay in the top four .


16 Jan 2018 23:36:39
Great post although it wouldn't surprise me if Klopp didn’t actually tell Lovren to press out of defence, he probably just did it because the midfield (specially after Can went off) gave little protection against their movements lol
But obviously Klopp didn’t tell him to stop so what you said about trust is true.
I just loved watching Klopp shouting at them to press after our 2nd and 3rd goal right from the off and the team listened straight away and it worked :D.


17 Jan 2018 02:09:59
Well if Mr. boring relaxed a bit and stopped flying towards shadows maybe we'd have had a more settled fribal 15.


17 Jan 2018 06:03:17
I also agree Liverpool are absolute fantastic at pressing good teams to mistakes and then take advantage of the mistakes. In that perspective we won't miss Coutinho that much, we got others who are better at pressing play. Makes me believe we can beat any team in CL even without Coutinho.

But the fact still remains we struggle against teams that park the bus. We got away with wins a couple more times this campaign do to getting first goal from a corner (Can) and a couple of times by individual brilliant efforts (Coutinho) that forced opposition to get out of the bus.
In this area i think Klopp still have a big challenge to overcome. Especially without Coutinho.


17 Jan 2018 07:22:57
I agree with you mostly. But it has to be said that the defense was great for 85 mins and then switched off collectively a little bit.

4-3 was an unfair reflection on us, we were much better. I totally agree that we should enjoy and celebrate the win but you need to be look at the negatives too and try to sort it out in future games.

3-3 at arsenal flattered them as well. The defense did not to justice with to our attack.


16 Jan 2018 21:47:45
After seeing a reply from Editor #2 on the others page I quote
''{Ed002's Note - Apart from the massive disruption and vast amount of abuse it has caused, no. }'.

It it kind of shocking how many people have little respect and appreciation for these Editors, who constantly give us information we'd never know about unless we was on this website. How about some people have a little more respect?

It's always a busy period the transfer window but there's no need to get stupid about things. We're meant to be a close knit community here, we're all here for the love of our club not to give grief to the editors who give us inside information and their knowledge, they don't have to do this, they choose to.

I for one as do many others fully appreciate what you editors do for us fans, I applaud each and every one of you. Most notable Editors 1, 2 and 25. Thank you for everything you guys do and the information provide us with it really doesn't go unnoticed.

I'm not trying to be up anybody's backside with this post but a little respect and appreciation is all it takes, it's not difficult. People wonder at times why Editor #2 destroys them. Is there any wonder? .

Thank you Editors for your time and efforts.

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{Ed025's Note - your welcome spooked..cheers..

16 Jan 2018 22:08:58
Well said Spooked.


16 Jan 2018 22:24:53
Yer we appreciate proper reds and all the eds think someone needs to get the eds padded walls as sometimes i can picture them banging their heads against them answering some of the trolls.


16 Jan 2018 23:40:22
Most of the time the abusive people are the ones who have just found the site for the transfer window (I hope i’m right anyway and the longer time readers show all the respect the eds deserve).


17 Jan 2018 00:24:21
There's just some very sad people in the world who have nothing better or more constructive to say or do each day.


17 Jan 2018 08:43:38
OIrish Kev 1, very true, I also don't believe it's regulars or I'd hope not anyway.


{Ed001's Note - sadly it often is regs.}

16 Jan 2018 21:42:29
Eds, Any chance at all of Pepe Reina making a glorious return to Anfield to show our mis-firing keepers how to put hands in their gloves?

He wants out of Napoli. Chairman insulted his lovely wife apparently.

I'd take him untill the summer.

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{Ed002's Note - Let's hope so.}

16 Jan 2018 21:48:41
You'd take Reina over Karius xabi14? are you serious or are you having people on?


16 Jan 2018 22:07:40
Hes cup tied in the CL so we will need a good back.

Scott Carson or Peter Gulacsi would be perfect.

To hell with it, let's bring in both.

3 keepers out, 3 keepers in.

Achterburg may as well sling his hook too. That might stop our goalkeepers habit of scratching both their ankles when the opposition are shooting.

Mike Hooper would jump at a coaching offer. According to his Wiki he is a bouncer in Durham now and also does a bit of courier work.

Boom. keeper issues sorted.


16 Jan 2018 22:28:14
Reina was getting beat on his near post on his last season with us he was a great keeper for us and we have great memories of his time i would like to keep those memories untainted his distribution was brilliant though.


16 Jan 2018 22:38:45
xabi14, thank god it's not up to you then.


16 Jan 2018 22:39:02
Hi Spooked

Yes I am serious. I did forward it to one of the other eds.

You seem like a fine affable gent so I'm sorry if it caused a bit of chaos and looking back it made little sense i suppose to say anything, it was probably done to put the fans minds at ease that the club is trying very hard to sign top goalkeepers, you hear lots of criticism towards the club for selling Coutinho and people thinking the owners are trying not to reinvest, which right now is not the case.

I have never heard his name mentioned all over twitter so people are not aware of this Faroe Islands international who does not get itchy ankles, now i hope that helps, but again he will take a lot of persuading .

Cheers

Macca. Pacca. from the night garden.


16 Jan 2018 22:48:04
Reina was a tart who whinged his way out of the club.


16 Jan 2018 23:29:18
Macca Pacca 😂 oh hell naw! If i find out Macca is short for Macca Pacca, Ed001 in Iggle Piggle, Ed002 is Oopsy Daisy, and Ed333, Ed033 and Ed025 are the tomli boos! I swear to god i will board the ninky nonk to London, fly the pinky ponk to Dubai, and "wacca pacca icka acka ooh" the lot of you!


{Ed033's Note - Ah, but which one is tinky winky?

16 Jan 2018 23:51:28
Showing your age there Ed033. The Teletubbies have grown up and had kids 😂 no joke!

Someone really should contact social services though. They're diabolical parents. How does a Teletubby even conceive? Must be something to do with them antennae things?


{Ed033's Note - Could be by Immaculate Conception if the Teletubbies are free from original sin.

16 Jan 2018 21:17:33
Woodburns off to Sunderland then om loan until the summer. Considering he was a player that some suggested could come into the squad/ team, we are even lighter. Grujic off out on loan along with Kent. Wilson?
Christ! An injury or 2 now leaves us knackered in the centre.

We must sign someone to fill the squad imo. Could cost us top4. 2 Weeks left now and no signs of anyone arriving.

Any ideas people?

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{Ed002's Note - These are players who are no more than fringe players.}

16 Jan 2018 21:35:37
How many games have these guys made the bench this season let alone start? Wilson and Kent have not been in the 1st team squad once! Weird post.


16 Jan 2018 21:43:59
What im getting at is we are selling fringe players that could come into the team with injuries? Woodburn is probably the nearest we have to Coutinho, and of no one is coming in he would of been ideal to drop in some games.


16 Jan 2018 22:32:02
He and we will benefit more in the long run if he gets game time good luck to the lad.


17 Jan 2018 01:43:36
If we’re in need we still plenty of talent in u21 like Ejaria. best to do the right thing for Woodburns career rather than plan for a worst case what if and have him on the bench. He needs game time to improve to the next level.


16 Jan 2018 21:06:22
Really cannot see why if actually Milan are in such financial worries and the young keeper donneruma wants to leave. Why Liverpool would not be all over it. Unless England and furthermore Liverpool are not on his preferred destinations? Just a suggestion eds 2.?

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{Ed002's Note - One of the club’s spoken to are English but it is nothing to do with Liverpool.}

16 Jan 2018 22:41:52
Thanks Ed 2 for the reply. In my opinion this lad could be the best Goalie in the world in the next 2-3 years. Replacement for Chelsea or spurs me thinks.


17 Jan 2018 01:32:59
Ive never seen him play but for me i am always wary of bringing in defenders and goalkeepers from abroad, especially ones who are 18. Regardless of how young or talented he is perceived to be, i think anyone that old would struggle to adapt to england and everything that comes with it.


16 Jan 2018 19:28:30
Eds, I know we don't talk money but what's the logic behind clubs spending vast sums of cash in January on players who can be signed for free in the summer? I'm thinking Sanchez obviously given the numbers being spouted in the press.

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{Ed002's Note - It gives MU an edge over MC.}

16 Jan 2018 20:50:20
Anybody see Mo Salah on channel 4 undateables last night 😂😂😂.

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16 Jan 2018 20:57:18
lol I said exactly the same.


16 Jan 2018 20:30:26
Just an observation but I think the reason JK went for the OX is because he will buy in to what he is trying to do, respect.

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17 Jan 2018 10:02:32
fair point but surely he wouldn't buy any player that wasn't buying into what he was doing?


16 Jan 2018 19:45:18
Ed01 if your about mate,

To early really I know. But if Klopp works on Robertson's attacking and decision making in the final third and continues to improve this along with the defensive display we see against City. Could he be the left back "Steve Finnan" in your eyes?

Also, read that Bordoux manager say we are looking at Malcolm! Is he looking to simply drum up more interest in the player, or is there truth to it? Looks similar to what we have in Salah and Mane in my opinion.

Thanks in advance

Jon.

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{Ed001's Note - I really hope Robertson can become the new Finnan, the potential is there, his crosses have a great shape to them, he just needs to aim them at someone.

We are just one of many that have taken a look at Malcom, maybe in the summer it is a possibility. Or if either of Salah and Mane were to leave.}

16 Jan 2018 20:14:40
The club will not be looking to any high profile outings anytime soon am told, apart from Emre if they can't keep him. I hope it's true because i'm getting fed up with the never ending transition tbh!


{Ed001's Note - they are defo not looking to sell either Salah or Mane but you can never be sure these days!}

16 Jan 2018 20:25:54
Ed001, can we not carry out some kind of blood sacrifice ritual to tie them to the club? I willingly offer Ed025. I'd suggest you yourself Ed001, but it has to be a virgin or a goat. Fortunately, Ed025 is both.


{Ed001's Note - a goat? Isn't that short for Greatest Of All Time? In which case there is no way Ed025 is a goat! As for a virgin, you would be surprised how many desperate women there are in the world....}

16 Jan 2018 20:29:10
Thanks Ed01 for the feedback. Very much appreciate your time.


{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

16 Jan 2018 20:36:47
Ed001, an idea for feedback from your footballing wisdom. You often say that we need a full back who can defend first, and while it's early we can see Robbo can do that at LB. Is it not time for us to sign a top class left-footed player who starts in the midfield but can stretch the defensive teams on the left flank in a fluid system and put in crosses while allowing Robertson to hang back? (I think I'm prescribing Lemar lol) . Our RBs are good at going up and down the flank and putting in crosses anyway.

Thanks for this immaculate site btw!


{Ed001's Note - I take it you mean to sit in central midfield but with the ability to pull out wide when Mane cuts in? In which case, it would help to have a left pegger in there to do that at times. I do agree Lemar could well be the ideal player to do that. We have it on the right with the Ox etc, so it makes sense to provide balance alongside them.}

16 Jan 2018 21:15:44
Hopefully real will go after hazard and leave Salah alone, they seem to be the only big money club that haven't splashed the cash in a while so I would expect them to do it in the summer.


16 Jan 2018 21:44:50
Yes its World Cup year. Real do seem to like a bright star or two from the tournament. James and Navas last time wasn't it? Hopefully Salah has an average one and Hazard doesn't!


16 Jan 2018 21:57:16
I am a virgin! But a man! 😩.


16 Jan 2018 22:41:58
Thanks Ed001. Hopefully we get someone to put in the crosses because Robertson's crosses are a constant threat to the fans in the Kop.


{Ed001's Note - I am sure he will improve at that, once he relaxes and plays with a bit more freedom. He is still trying too hard to impress at the moment when he gets into the final third.}

16 Jan 2018 18:46:39
Hi, eds

Do you think if mignonet were to request a transfer in January that klopp will try to bring in a GK this month or stick with Karius and Ward until the end of the season?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - it would be pure speculation on my part to say.}

16 Jan 2018 19:12:53
Hopefully.


16 Jan 2018 19:25:04
You mean being an Ed doesn't come with a crystal ball? Shocker!


{Ed001's Note - it does but unfortunately I broke mine banging my head against many years ago.}

16 Jan 2018 21:53:13
Did you bang it out of frustration because someone said Firmino was a rubbish striker?


16 Jan 2018 21:44:04
Is it true you broke it when you foresaw Rafa making a move for Gareth Barry Ed001?


{Ed001's Note - it broke the day Harry joined the site....}

16 Jan 2018 18:37:13
Genuine question here, does anyone else think we have peaked during the man City match?
I have a sneaky feeling that other teams will be picking up points and adding to their respective teams which in turn could cost us a top 4 place.
I am very pleased with how we are currently playing and our position in the league and the vvd addition should help us loads.

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16 Jan 2018 19:22:37
No, quite the opposite. I think we will have a much better second half to the season than the first.

The first Man City game derailed us a bit - lost a bit of confidence, lost Mane who was in the form of his life, and just generally lost our way a bit.

It seems to have taken us to just about pre Christmas I would say to get back to where we were mentality wise. Now we seem to believe in ourselves again. I actually believe we will get second this season.


{Ed025's Note - so do i nick..

16 Jan 2018 19:42:17
Good post Nick, I also think second place is ours for the taking.


16 Jan 2018 19:52:56
Nick, interesting point of view. Obviously I hope you are correct. Let's wait and see what the season has is store for us.
We have many lower teams coming up and history will show we can struggle against the so called lesser teams let's hope we pick up a good portion of the points on offer.


16 Jan 2018 19:58:48
Good old negativewalter always looking for the positives!


16 Jan 2018 21:44:32
Its all in the lights lads, believe in the red and green and yellow and blue and orange etc well you get the picture. 😊.


16 Jan 2018 23:33:15
I thought this season we'd put the struggling to beat lesser clubs to bed for a while, and we now couldn't beat top teams, oh wait that was last week, give me strength.


16 Jan 2018 18:41:53
I saw this clip on youtube from 'Cork's biggest Liverpool fan' and laughed out loud!

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16 Jan 2018 18:48:21
Absolutely brilliant he's my no1 couldn't stop laughing.


16 Jan 2018 19:01:31
Its an earworm. it stays in ya head for days.


16 Jan 2018 19:31:12
Should be. Liverpool's Fab Trioooooo. Not We Sold Countinhoooo.


16 Jan 2018 20:14:19
I've been singing it all the time since I heard it the other day, I think the fans were singing it at the game on Sunday.


16 Jan 2018 20:27:57
You should see this United fan's version, was absolutely shocking, he was chanting about Rojo and Shaw xD.


16 Jan 2018 21:04:39
Did you not see the clip in the stand outside Anfield at the city game he was up with a band infrint of thousands.


16 Jan 2018 21:27:33
Legend 👏

Cork’s biggest Liverpool fan is quite a claim. I know a helluva lot of Liverpool fans from Cork and those lads are a passionate bunch 👍.


16 Jan 2018 22:29:54
And from Louth.


16 Jan 2018 22:53:03
The Louth boys set the standard 👍.


17 Jan 2018 00:31:00
And all three scored after the release of this demo! Hopefully someone will sing it in the Kop soon! Salah! Mane Mane! And Bobby Firmino.


16 Jan 2018 17:37:25
Evening Eds. are we still actively looking to bring in new faces this window or is it the likelihood will make do with what we have and make things happen in the summer.?

Also is any RBs on our radar as i see that as one of the problem positions for us still. the young lad gomez has been unreal at times and he's playing out of position and you can see the centre half in him the way he gets caught at times with the man on the back post and TAA still has a lot to learn and i don't feel it's the right time to have to completely depend on him as our first choice.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant see liverpool doing much if anything in this window jimmy..

16 Jan 2018 18:11:15
I don't think we'll sign anybody and to be honest I aren't really bothered if we don't. Id rather wait until the summer before panic buying a player this month. There's a few positions which need addressing in the summer but right now I'm happy overall with the squad we have, I'd love Keita to be here now but that's not happening.


16 Jan 2018 18:28:36
We desperatly need another body in the middle. Hendo always injured and Emre is off.


16 Jan 2018 17:23:25
I was thinking, yes mane has upped his game recently in terms of goals over the last few games but if we are all been completely honest he doesn't seem quite right in general this season, certainly not in terms of his final ball and finish in comparison to what it was last season.

Ed01, do you or anyone else even think it might have something to do with him being switched to the left wing this season? Having played most of last season on the right where now ironically salah is and is having a joy of a season! Just wondering also does mane have a preference and could he be a bit annoyed at the joy salah is getting in what was originally his position?

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{Ed001's Note - he is happy playing where he is mate, he does not have to hold out on the left, it is just a starting point. He can drift hither and thither as he wishes. Mane is just not in tip top form, injuries and being in and out of the side because of them have just seen it dip. He will come good again I am sure.}

16 Jan 2018 17:36:27
Ah right thanks Ed, I’m sure he will too and I’m still happy with the input he’s giving was just wondering if he himself had any preference which he knew of for his sort of starting point in the line up. Espeically when I think the right backs u would be facing in the league would probably be a bit better quality than left backs in general as there seems to be a shortage of top quality left backs from who I can think of!


{Ed001's Note - he was known as a left winger before he joined us mate.}

16 Jan 2018 17:39:03
100% correct ed. He just needs to find a little missing rhythm. On his best form I think he is our best player or very very close to it.

Even when 10% off his best form he still contributes with goals and assists, there are not many players in the league that can match him.


16 Jan 2018 17:48:45
It's nothing to do with position. Its his pace and acceleration has dramatically decreased since his double hamstring injury. I have noticed it for the last month/ Like most on here I was initially untroubled since I just suspected it to be match fitness but it actually has not improved at all. Yes he has scored some goals but his ability to race past people has completely gone and Its not a fitness thing since he plays 90 minutes without problem. T

he list of players who were lightning quick and then lost that couple of yards after hamstring tears is endless. Even just with liverpool there was owen and torres who were both crushed by hamstring tears. Not to mention Sturbridge who also completely lost his sprinting ability.

I know I will get hate for this but I mentioned it on twitter weeks ago and more and more people have noticed how he hasn't gone past anyone recently the way he did last season and is getting out sprinted by most players. I would love to be wrong but I will bet a lot of money that his other worldly pace does not return.


16 Jan 2018 17:48:51
Yeah I think people are quick to forget he had a significant hamstring injury and was in a sense rushed back a little earlier than should of been and then had a reoccurance of the same thing. i think that has taken it's toll on him slighty and with all them games over the Xmas period klopp played it right in resting him from time to time to help protect him breaking down again.

As ed said as the season gets on I think you will see him finish it really strong.


16 Jan 2018 18:31:26
Could've fooled me when he was leaving Kyle Walker for dead 😂.


16 Jan 2018 18:33:37
There are LFC players that I worry about. Sadio Mane is NOT one of them. The guy is a beast. All you have to do is look at the pure quality of his last two goals both with his left foot. Form is temporary BUT Class is permanent. Mane will be fine.


16 Jan 2018 19:00:22
StevieJesus- You could be right, although Manes hammy injuries have not been on a par with Owens, what’s the maximum time he’s been out?2 months?
I hope your wrong and it’s just a confidence thing, I did think he looked to get a little swag back on Sunday after his goal and was being more direct afterwards.


16 Jan 2018 20:34:49
Yes Cobra I know what you mean in terms of the seriousness of the injury. As I say I wasn't overly concerned early on but its now been a long time since he's been back and his fitness is back but that pace has not improved at all. I have been watching him very closely every game and its just got me a little concerned. Not sure why that moron said he left walker for dead because he frequently got out sprinted by many players even Fernandinho. If you watch his previous 4 games vs clips from last season or so he has not gone round the outside of fullbacks the way he was. its night and day. Fortunately for us he's absolute class so he can still score goals and perform well with his current fitness, I just worry he may have lost that extra couple yards. Only time will tell.


16 Jan 2018 16:40:27
Ed or MKS, is Grujic still playing the holding role for the U-23 team. I think I read here by MK that he was being used in that position maybe with the possibility of moving in there next season?
Thanks guys.

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16 Jan 2018 17:27:25
They switched up the system last team out, to a 4-2-3-1.

Kane and Alves were sat in midfield, with Wilson, Dhanda and Adekanye. Bit of a midfield shake up with Ejaria, Virtue and Grujic not there.

The team has had to change a bit of late and a lot if the u18's have been moved up. Millar and Jones most notably. Ejaria i believe is training with the first team, so he might get some game time in the FA cup this month, and Grujic is injured again i think, and probably joining Virtue and Woodburn out on loan when he finally gets fit.

I think Grujic is done at Liverpool to be honest mate. I suspect his loan will have an option to buy. The experiment did not work out despite showing initial promise. It's best if we let him go now, rather than stall his career further. In hindsight, the move was too early for him. Aside from Ed002 though (who called this from day one), people can't see the future!


16 Jan 2018 17:42:22
I had high hopes for Grujic but sadly it looks like it won't happen for him at Lfc.


16 Jan 2018 18:34:53
Can we wait till he is actually done at LFC before we write his LFC obituary?


16 Jan 2018 19:53:45
Literally couldn't agree more BRover.
Not a day seems to pass without someone knocking someone at the club. Grujic is a kid who potentially has a good future who Klopp took a punt on, no more, no less, but seemingly some like to write him off.
Same happened with AOC, now loads love him.
Same with Karius, Lovren, Mane has recently been criticised.
What has happened to being simply a supporter of your club and it's players until they tarnish the badge or leave in controversial circumstances?!


16 Jan 2018 16:39:05
My prediction is that Mane will be a monster next season with Naby Keita supplying him and developing a strong West African connection with him. Similar background and culture, just the way Firmino and Coutinho improved each other and developed a strong understanding on the pitch based on their time together off it.
I think you'll see a very happy and confident Mane next season for sure. He will be the most in the squad to benefit from having Keita in the team.

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16 Jan 2018 17:03:26
That'll be great to see, I still think Mane has had a good season just not as brutal as he could be but still doing very well. I do agree I think Keita will really help him step his game up.


16 Jan 2018 17:10:40
Forget your culture, colour, age or race, good players will play with anyone.


16 Jan 2018 17:28:46
100% agree Davey.


16 Jan 2018 18:35:31
Mane is already a monster.


16 Jan 2018 18:37:14
Hey Davey, I'm not saying you can't play with anyone else from anywhere in the world; Mane is in fact doing that right now, and has done that since he moved to Europe. But players tend to develop strong on the pitch understanding based on off the pitch friendship too. They're humans, not robots!


16 Jan 2018 18:39:53
First thought. AFCON! Argh. Mane, Keita, Salah!


16 Jan 2018 19:10:59
Think AFCON got moved to summer months if your concern is players going away just after Christmas.


16 Jan 2018 16:45:43
Hi Eds, seen a statistic about firmino earlier "Since, 2013, no player in Europe has been booked for overzealous celebration as many times as Roberto Firmino"

i was wondering, do you know why players get booked for taking their shirts off? it was my understanding that it was it caused delays as they used to take a while to get back on? but that's no longer the case, is it to do with provoking the fans. might be BS though. as long has it doesn't lead to sending offs and suspensions i don't have an issue with bobby doing it.

dont understand why players get booked for celebrating with fans either. both sterling and costa have has a second booking recently and ended up getting sent off for it! (their owmn silly fault) but the idea of this being abookable offence is not something. do you know the reasoning behind this?

thought this might make a nice change from the repetitive questions! thanks for everything you guys do! especially Ed001, 002 and 025 even if he is a bitter!

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{Ed002's Note - It has caused trouble when in front of opposition fans. A firm shake of the hand should be enough.}

16 Jan 2018 17:00:18
Players act out of instinct. Why do they need to get booked for removing their shirts?

Players who go down rolling ten times over for play acting do not get booked? It is ridiculous.


16 Jan 2018 17:06:08
It’s his celebration, back in Germany he scored an important goal and took his top of and got booked, normally when he scores he pretends to take his top of as a joke. Clearly tho when he scores great goals or important ones he will go wild and take it off.


16 Jan 2018 17:15:24
Me bird was banned from our local ale house after taking her top off in front a load of rowdy young men.

I told her it was wrong and disrespectful and that she could have taken someone's eye out or tripped over, explaining further that the landlord has rules.

The landlord agreed and banned her without even considering a yellow card.

A bit harsh but maybe a similar thing should happen to players who do the same, especially Rooney.


16 Jan 2018 17:21:47
I find it strange when he takes off his red shirt to reveal a longer red shirt.


16 Jan 2018 17:30:55
In Bobbys case i think he just loses his mind when he or the team scores. Im sure we have all seen his flying karate kick celebration at the weekend lol.


16 Jan 2018 17:50:36
I was under the impression that it was related to health and safety. don't ask me why but I seem to remember that being given as the official reason.


{Ed001's Note - no it was because shirts had more than one layer for a while and players were taking ages to get them back on. It should be changed now as it no longer makes any sense.}

16 Jan 2018 18:04:08
Haha agree Firmane - I thought that myself - he seemed to have more red shirt on when he took his shirt off - and still got a yellow.

Wonder what would happen if you had a long sleeve proper shirt on underneath (name number and all) a short sleeved one. Would you still get a yellow?


16 Jan 2018 18:36:38
His celebrations don't bother me in the least bit.


16 Jan 2018 19:48:11
If you watch the celebration closely after Mane's goal you'll see Firmino give Salah a big nudge that nearly sent him over, all done with a huge smile on his face 😂

Love the fella.


17 Jan 2018 10:02:00
Thanks eds!


16 Jan 2018 16:11:35
In regards to the similarities between Fowler's goal vs United at Old Trafford in the mid 90's and Firmino's goal on Sunday, can anyone remember if Gary Neville said it was a foul on John Stones in match commentary, I was watching US commentary personally?!

It'd be interesting, as if memory serves, Fowler out-muscled/ shouldered Neville aside like Firmino did to Stones and (again if memory serves) Neville vehemently claimed a foul at the time back in the 90's.

Cheers.

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16 Jan 2018 16:46:22
I’m pretty sure Gary said Firmino was just stronger than stones.


16 Jan 2018 16:48:23
No, I don’t think a foul was mentioned until after the game by Man City fans feeling hard done by. However, considering all the screaming and jumping and shouting going on, along with too much booze in me, I could very well be wrong.

A foul? Never in a million years.


16 Jan 2018 16:50:26
I recall him saying he was out muscled and shouldn’t of been.


16 Jan 2018 16:50:59
I'm not sure what Neville commentated about that but judging by how soft free kicks and penalties are dished out nowadays, I think the ref would have blown for a foul if Stones went down.


16 Jan 2018 16:51:25
no he didn't. no one claimed a foul on stones.


16 Jan 2018 16:57:44
I am pretty sure he was adamant that Stones just needed to be stronger.


16 Jan 2018 17:06:08
Thanks S. T. Much appreciated, makes perfect sense with him ha!


16 Jan 2018 17:29:48
I was actually thinking why no one said that was a foul. Probably because the finish was so sublime.


16 Jan 2018 17:32:11
Thanks all, just to clear one thing up - Richard "Tarmac" Keys and Andy Gray were adamant on their channel that is was a foul lol.
They were furious it seemed lol.


16 Jan 2018 18:00:59
Firmino has much bigger biceps than Stones.


{Ed025's Note - i dont really study the male form davey.. :)

16 Jan 2018 18:08:32
Can’t believe Andy Grey felt Liverpool didn’t deserve something.


16 Jan 2018 18:38:40
Spot on, Nick. Both of those clowns afre a joy to watch. It seems that it is physically killing them to give LFC or Klopp any credit when we win or play well. Now if we have a negative result or our defender or K made a mistake even when we win, the fangs are out.


16 Jan 2018 14:51:41
Hey Eds, now that Bobby's scoring goals I assume we no longer looking at 'big name' strikers but I am concerned about who we have as back up. Studge looks like he's missed his last chance, Ings doesn't look like he's going to get a look, Origi's likely played his last game for the club and Solanke is too raw to be relied upon.

Are we actively looking at any strikers who could be Bobby's understudy?

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{Ed002's Note - The club has more than enough options to see the season out.}

16 Jan 2018 15:23:56
Putney, forget the notion of a "striker". Our front 3 is fluid. At any one time the 3 players can be in completely different places to where you'd expect them to be.

With that in mind, we have Firmino, Salah, Mane, Solanke, Sturridge, Chamberlain, Lallana and Ings. 8 players to cover 3 positions, should be more than enough. Also, if we don't give Solanke chances, he'll never reach his massive potential. We have the opportunity to mould him into the exact type of player we want to. He works hard, he has good vision, he is strong, relatively quick, good in the air, and he's proven he can score goals at every level he's been thrown into so far. His vast array of skills make him one of the few up and coming talents who could potentially succeed Firmino long term (maybe in 4 years when Bobby is 30 odd and Solanke will be 23 and coming into his prime) . He may even develop sooner and be an excellent foil for Firmino in a partnership.

There is no rush. If we were struggling for goals, it would be unfair to put the pressure on him. But we're outscoring nearly everyone though. It will click for him, but he's not going to get any better if he's 3rd choice behind another big money signing. Patience is key with Solanke.


16 Jan 2018 15:37:04
That front three won't be the same without Bobby. If he suffers an injury then we rely on Solanke.


{Ed002's Note - Or Sturbridge, or Ings, or Mane - or one of the youngsters.}

16 Jan 2018 15:59:06
You can't sign 6 world class attackers just in case 1 gets injured.

If Firmino got injured, we'd have Mane and Salah either side of Solanke. If Salah got injured, we've got Ox to play out wide right. If Mane gets injured, we've got Lallana to play wide left. Then we have Sturridge and Ings as further depth. What are the odds of all 3 being injured at once? And should we really have £150m of talent on the bench just in case that happens?

Sure; Lallana, Solanke, Ox is much weaker than our first choice front 3. But it's still a front 3 of full England internationals that cost £80m combined. How much do you want to spend on the reserves?

I think we could do with shifting Ings and Sturridge and signing a more versatile AM/ forward to replace Coutinho, such as Lemar or Brandt. But we have more than enough goals and quality to see out the season so we can get our preferred players in the summer.

Have you actually looked at who Barcelona have after there first 3? After Messi, Suarez and Dembele, Barcelona have Munir, Dennis and Turan. After Sterling, Aguero and Sane, Man City have Zinchenko, Jesus and Bernardo. Don't lie to me and say you think Zinchenko is as good as Sane.

Not even the best teams in the world can make 3 changes to their attack without weakening it significantly. Get over it.


16 Jan 2018 16:03:14
Sorry, I'm behind the times. Barcelona actually have Dennis Suarez to cover Lionel Messi, Paco Alacer to cover Luis Suarez, and Gerard Delofeu to cover Ousmane Dembele.

I'm not being funny but Lallana-Solanke-Ox is just as good as Dennis-Alacer-Delofeu!


{Ed025's Note - really?, i think your red tinted specs may need a bit of a clean there MK, i do like your bias though mate.. :)

16 Jan 2018 16:12:24
PutneyRed, I reckon we are fortunate we do not have to rely on a natural striker to score our goals.

As it is, we are scoring goals for fun so why the need for to sign a striker?

If Klopp can make more signings like Salah, Mane and Firmino who can play anywhere across the front three then there is no need for strikers.

Solanke is an understudy, why do we need to sign another one?


16 Jan 2018 16:16:36
delefeou is pants tbf but the other two have a future in La Liga.

No surprise that delefeou is being moved on again.

I wouldn't argue against MKs post that those 3 are on par with the Barcelona 3.

The Ox has really surprised me since his introduction to the side JK has got him playing excellent.


16 Jan 2018 16:22:28
Ed025, Ox or Walcott :-O

I bet you are really excited about him signing.


{Ed025's Note - i thought the two of them were of similar ability myself max, i just hope im right because ox has done well mate..

16 Jan 2018 16:27:33
C'mon ed. Delefoeu is utter crap. Alacer is decent but out of his depth at Barcelona and same said about Dennis Suarez. lallana is class ox is the new coutinho and solanke is the next Harry Kane. think I'd rather our 3 any day.


{Ed025's Note - wow liverpool supporters never cease to amaze me ben, comparing solanke and ox to couts and kane is like comparing a 2 up 2 down in granby st to downton abbey mate.. :)

16 Jan 2018 16:19:21
Sorry ed, wasn't thinking of a short term problem, more a longer term plan, if Studge and Ings left we would be light up top.


{Ed002's Note - In the longer term all of the players will leave and be replaced.}

16 Jan 2018 16:35:45
Ed025, you do know who Dennis, Alacer and Delofeu are don't you 😂 Lallana is better than them 3 combined, on his own. As is Ox who we had to fight off Chelsea to sign. Solanke isn't better, but he is about 5 years younger and was voted in the top 25 young players in Europe for the golden boy award.

Barcelona couldn't even give some of their squad players away, and yet they're running away with La Liga because their first team is good enough.

Even over at City, Zinchenko is nowhere near as good as Lallana, Bernardo and Ox are pretty well matched, but to be fair Jesus is better than Solanke. So their back ups aren't exactly streets ahead of ours either. So i make that 1 to us, a draw and 1 to City.

I don't get this obsession with people thinking you need 22 world class players. You only need about 5 and then you need a group of hard working players around them with enough quality not to hold them back. People are just greedy. Some teams can only dream of having 1 player as good as Mane, Firmino or Salah. We'll we've got all 3 and people still want more!

Forwards are not our problem and I'm still staggered i have to even say that!


{Ed025's Note - i do know them 3 MK, unfortunately i know your 3 as well and i know its personal choice but give me the first trio any day mate..

16 Jan 2018 16:52:54
Kind of insane there. Love solanke but Kane is the best English striker in decades and top 5 in the world.


16 Jan 2018 16:54:21
If the right player becomes available at the right price, of course we'd bring him in if all parties are satisfied.

Solanke could well be a great player down the road, but the club come first, so if an upgrade is available, make no mistake, moves would be made.


16 Jan 2018 17:09:37
I am just happy none of Barcelona's rejects were included in the Coutinho deal.


16 Jan 2018 16:45:03
Walcott is a walking injury Ed025. Ox 'touch wood' is actually staying fit for a change.

Walcott is past his best. I think you guys have signed another Aaron Lennon unfortunately.


{Ed025's Note - time will tell i suppose max but to be honest he cant be any worse than we have at the moment mate..

16 Jan 2018 17:18:13
Ed025, just hope and pray for your part that fat Sam does not ask him to get involved in parking the bus.


{Ed025's Note - im sure our supporters would agree with you max..

16 Jan 2018 17:30:43
You could have done with a manager like Paul Lambert Ed025.

How long do you see Allardyce staying on? It was a bit of a surprise that he was appointed.

Not that I feel sorry for you guys but it is the worst appointment you could have made. Would have been better to take back Moyes.


{Ed025's Note - moyes, lambert and sam are all peas in a pod for me max, decent enough managers if you dont want to actually win something, i think we are hoping sam is a temporary appointment to get us safe before we hopefully move on to better things mate..

16 Jan 2018 18:45:58
Putney, Bobbie has been scoring goals for a while now in all comps. and maybe the Ed's can help me here BUT I do not recall us being in the market for any "Big name strikers" so again, I don't know he purpose of your OP. We are a well oiled machine up top as our front 3 are top 3 in Europe with The Bobbie Dazzler as the glue who holds EVERYTHING together so why bring in a "striker" who will come and screw all that up, IMO as he will not be able to do what Bobbie can?

Now regarding back ups, you can't buy a shed load of players just cos you are scared one will get hurt, Nobody does that as that is illogical. The coaching staff have all this under control. If all else fails, you play Salah or Mane as the front man if Bobbie can't go and even then, Solanke can step in as well. Chill out, mate. It's all good.


16 Jan 2018 19:03:07
I think you have at least another year of him which will be worrying because that means he gets the summer transfer funds to buy Titus bramble and djimi traore.


16 Jan 2018 14:49:32
Wilshire? He can trap a ball further than I can kick it. totally overrated.

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16 Jan 2018 15:25:15
Very true. And you can kick it 70 yards. Shows how bad his touch is.


16 Jan 2018 15:32:19
A bit harsh. Wilshere is one of the few class players Arsenal have got. When he has the ball it sticks to his foot, he shields it and is hard to dispossess. Coming back from some bad injuries too, where you can expect a bit of rustiness.


16 Jan 2018 15:40:18
Sticks to his foot? He's not got another cast already has he?


16 Jan 2018 18:27:53
Adam only fancies English players at Liverpool and AOC when he was at Arsenal. Wilshere is a decent player. He can pick a pass and has pace to drive with the ball. One of the stand out players at Arsenal currently and expecting a contract! He is easily better than Winks and on par with Hendo!


16 Jan 2018 18:49:27
Klavy, and there lies the problem If Wilshire is the class player Arsenal still have then trust me, they are done. Wilshire is not good enough to play in ANY other team in the top 6, IMO and this won't change if he still hangs around the Arsene Wenger School of Stagnation. Look at Ox. He jumped ship, took a pay cut and rejected Chelsea to come to us cos he unlike the Wilshere's and Ramsey's of this world, wanted more out of his career. Now look at him.


16 Jan 2018 21:05:49
Arsenal are pretty poor at the moment but, don’t forget, they drew with us not so long ago. I’m not saying Wilshere is somebody we should sign but he is a class player when fit and was Arsenal’s best later at the weekend, despite the defeat.


16 Jan 2018 12:55:42
Ed001 if you have time can you let us know what sort of keeper Allison is? What is he good at?

I don't know anything about him other than he is a big guy around 6 foot 4.

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head I couldn't, as I was not watching him as such when I was watching Roma, I was watching the midfield, he just stood out like a sore thumb as their best player. I would need to sit and watch him closely to refresh my memory of what was good about him as I was not giving it any thought to be honest. I was concentrating on other players and I wouldn't want to give out a false impression. Goalkeepers are such a specialised position that you really do need to sit and just watch them to get a real feel for what makes them stand out. It was the same with Pickford when I wrote a profile on him, I had to watch a bunch of games just watching him to see why it was he unsettled me as a keeper when everyone else was raving about him.}

16 Jan 2018 15:07:13
Ed01 watching Roma’s midfiled 😎😎😎. Now that’s interesting!


16 Jan 2018 15:08:14
I'll have a go if you want mark. I've seen him play a few times.

First off, I've not seen him play loads because although I've been following Roma for a few years now, he's only just been made 1st choice this season.

He is a big bloke, but it doesn't hinder his agility like it does with keepers like Forster. He is still very agile but he is exactly the type of keeper i like. If a long range shot is hit, most keepers tend to set themselves on the spot ready to launch into a ridiculously over exaggerated dive. Alisson is very light on his feet though and will just shuffle across to make saves look easy, rather than pose for the cameras. If he has to let fly though, he is more than capable of clawing a pile driver out of the top corner at full stretch.

This speed and agility is what Alisson' game centres around. He is very good at sweeping up behind a high line because of it, but the speed at which he can readjust, and move along his line as earned him a reputation for making some unbelievable saves. There are times where the ball has ricocheted around in the box and when the shot finally comes in Alisson is already on the move to be in the right position. His reflexes are very impressive. He's a bit like De Gea in this respect because of his tendency to save shots from such close proximity and make everyone say "wow". The only difference is that Alisson tends to spread himself differently. De Gea is the master of stopping a shot with his feet, but I've not seen that skillset from Alisson so far. He smothers shots from what I've seen, rather than getting a strong foot to them to fire them away from danger.

The big one of course, is crosses. Alisson is very quick to make up his mind and that speed and agility i keep banging on about, usually sees him get to the ball first. His height helps too of course! He is very comfortable on crosses, thank God.

One of my slight concerns is his distribution. There is plenty of distance to his kicking, but considering he has some big players to aim at in that Roma side, a lot of his kicks give away possession. He is plenty comfortable with the ball at his feet, it is just the accuracy of his kicks that needs work.

Lastly, i think vocally he needs to improve. However keep in mind he is young for a keeper and very new to the first team XI at Roma. Therefore he may just need a bit more confidence to fully open up and be vocally dominant. I highly doubt he speaks a word of English though so this is an area which will need to be prioritised if he were to join.

Overall, he is a very good goal keeper, and destined to be one of the top 10 in the world one day in my opinion. I highly doubt we'd need to revisit the position for years to come. Not yet the finished article, but he is very close to it, and he makes saves he is not entitled to make which should keep the ex-Liverpool player witch hunters happy. Like all keepers, he makes the odd mistake, but as long as he saves us more points than he costs us, that's all that matters really!


16 Jan 2018 15:07:13
Ed01 watching Roma’s midfiled 😎😎😎. Now that’s interesting!


16 Jan 2018 15:12:47
Thanks for the response.

Were you watching Nainggolan? I was told he was their best player and I was really surprised the other day when I read he might go to China.


{Ed001's Note - I was and he is but he is also a troublemaker with a dreadful attitude.}

16 Jan 2018 15:45:10
Ed001 next time you watch Roma, keep an eye out for Florenzi. He is the closest thing to Zanetti in the modern era mate.

He can play Right back, left back, right wing, left wing, defensive midfield, or centre midfield. Though he is predominantly an attacking right wing back.

He's had a torrid time the last couple of years, but he's fought back strong and if he can string a couple of seasons together, I'd rate him as the best right back in world football. He's one hell of a player, and we're after a right back in the summer! So get Edwards on the phone mate, and start dropping hints! Seriously, this Florenzi guy is special!


{Ed001's Note - I have seen him play but he never really shone.}

16 Jan 2018 16:52:43
He had a really bad knee injury Ed. Prior to it, he was bordering on world class. This is his first full season back and I've git my fingers crossed he has recovered fully. I am slightly biased though as he's been one of my favourite players at Roma along with Totti and De Rossi!


{Ed001's Note - I know mate, which is why I would not consider him as any player who has had a serious knee injury should not be an option. It is always a risk afterwards.}

16 Jan 2018 18:57:36
Good shout there, MK on Alisson as I have never seen him play consistently other than a couple of games with Brazil. I did see a mashup of his saves on youtube (I know) and I agree with you that he is lightning quick off his line and and had good reflexes on the saves I saw for both his Brazilian club and Roma. Either way, he will still need to adapt to the PL and there will definitely be growing pains.

I for one, don't care if a new GK in the PL, makes a mistake cos that is part of life. What I hate is for our fans to keep projecting their false narratives on a GK and always comparing him to DDG, Courtois and all that and if he is not that way from the off, then he's crap and needs to go. Meanwhile, they forget that it took time, belief, patience and good coaching and surroundings for these GK's to where they are today.


16 Jan 2018 21:17:09
Thanks MK for the profile on Allison. (I can't understand the 4 thumbs down for that) . I had read that as well about him only recently getting a chance to play as first choice in the league games.

It worries me about him not being a vocal presence, that would be very high on my list if I was choosing a keeper. Then again a keeper who is first class at his own job will do just fine.


16 Jan 2018 21:49:03
Did Romas Pelligrini stand out to you Ed001?


{Ed001's Note - I have only seen him play once, but he did look very good yes.}

16 Jan 2018 13:39:36
Seems to be a lot of clubs making strange enquiries/ bids now that we are mid way thru January.

Chelsea for Carrol / Barkley

Arsenal for Aubamyang who seems to have none of the top clubs chasing him for reasons beyond me but there must be something to it.

Everton for Walcott,

Just some examples, it does seem like there's even more of a lack of quality available this January, as is usually the case with this transfer window.

To be honest I think getting van disk has been the best business and definitely the best we could have wished for.

Would it be fair in saying people would be happy if the window ended today and we kept any money we have to spend in the summer when there's more time and clubs are more willing to let go of players who may want to move?

I would personally probably rather that, my only fear is that come the summer someone makes a ridiculous buy and again the fees go even more sky high like we have been seeing happening with each passing window recently.

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16 Jan 2018 13:56:03
Aubameyang is a walking disaster off the pitch, Ed’s have given a lot of detail on why he’s not wanted.


16 Jan 2018 14:29:56
Walcott to Everton is a decent deal considering they would take anyone atm! I would have fancied selling Markovic to Everton. He has scored a few in the past!


16 Jan 2018 15:09:17
Not even i am cruel enough to give Everton, Markovic. The bluenoses have suffered enough mate.


16 Jan 2018 17:35:34
Don't you mean Markovic has suffered enough, MK?


16 Jan 2018 19:00:01
Auba to Arsenal is nothing but a panic buy, IMO. There is a reason no big club will touch him and why BVB are fed up to their back teeth with him. He is too old and a true piece of work in the DR. Disgusting attitude, very undisciplined and a sulker.


16 Jan 2018 13:28:04
With Hendos injuries seemingly making it difficult to play a full season, and Can potentially leaving, we look very short at no.6. Milners subbing into that role over the weekend was hardly a comforting move and clearly impacted our defensive shape

1) Do you think keita can play there effectively and would he potentially cover the no. 6 role next season if Hendo gets injured? (and has he ever done so before? It feels like he could do so IMO given his strength in the tackle but not so sure on his defensive read of the game)

2) If not, then if Can leaves us would that potentially change our midfield targets for the summer to go for a more specialist no.6 as a backup, or is Klopp happy with allrounders covering the position?

Feels like we're relying heavily on Hendos fitness record and him playing an awful lot of games if Can leaves and Keita can't play in that position.

Thoughts?

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16 Jan 2018 13:44:08
My opinion, we don't have a specialist DM in the team. if we can get someone who is good in reading the ball and can protect the back 4, then we can unleash Hendo and Kieta in the more advance role. team will not know what hit them. They will constantly pressure the opponent and win the ball back in good position. So i think a specialist DM is a must, but again don't know what Klopp wants.


16 Jan 2018 13:38:35
Keita can play there, but he is very attack minded so can be caught out of position if there is a rapid turnover and he can't get back in time.

I wouldn't worry too much if we had Ox, Keita and Lemar as they're all willing to put in a shift defensively. Keita and Lenar won't happen this month though from the looks of it, but we have Can, Henderson, Gini and Lallana to see us through the rest of the season anyway.


16 Jan 2018 13:40:31
It is likely that in the summer, if Klopp doesn't want to start utilizing Grujic in that area pretty much full time or become confident that Hendo is fully over his injury issues, we will see a deeper lying play-maker type player sought.


16 Jan 2018 13:40:46
I totally agree SGRed, that's why im hoping we are going to bring someone in over the next 2weeks.


16 Jan 2018 13:42:37
I have seen Keita play as a holding midfielder and as a box to box player. If Can goes, Klopp will buy someone else as well. IMO Keita is being brought to be an all action midfielder with end product.


16 Jan 2018 13:56:13
Lucas wasn’t replaced. I know he was past his best and needed to move on, but we were generally better at managing the game when he was in the team, with his calmness on the ball and simple accurate passing. We don’t seem to be able to do that with the players we have now. What I wouldn’t give to see a younger Lucas coming off the bench when leading.


16 Jan 2018 13:47:32
Well Keita could play a number of roles. He isn’t a traditional DM. But very good in breaking up of play. He is a top class tackler in the middle. His biggest strength however is going forward. He can skip past players for fun. I wouldn’t play him deep! It’s a waste of his talent.
If Can does leave then I expect Klopp to buy a midfielder. I don’t know who ( we could just speculate ) but it has to be another all action all rounder and certainly not a specialist!

I simply don’t see a future for both Hendo and Lallana beyond this summer ( AOC is giving both of them a real fight for their spot ) while we would also bring in a creative playmaker to replace Coutinho in the summer.
Klopp will certainly feel he could go on for the title next season if he could get a few players!

Thanks.


16 Jan 2018 13:19:55
Just an observation not only on this site but liverpool fans in general moaning at our players. I'm. not saying everyone one is doing it but the negative brigade seem to over power the positive brigade.

We are privileged enough to be watching some of the best football this team has produces in decades. It is a sheer joy to behold. Ie the first 30 minutes away to. man city this season. We were brilliant.

Just go and watch the lfc. tv Goal of the month competition and you realise how privileged we are. 2018 has already seen amazing goals.

Yet the constant moaning and whinging about the performances of young 20 year old players is relentless. The pundits only ever look for fault and it seems the general public become sheep.

I believe we one trophy away from getting back to the top but on that journey mistakes are going to be made.

I day let's getbehind the team and accept that players, especially young ones will make mistakes especially young ones.

Long may we be entertained.

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16 Jan 2018 13:42:31
Nice comment Ravi, it does surprise me how regardless of the result and how the team plays, someone always ends up getting ripped a new one.

I find myself looking for areas to improve in every post game comment, and hopefully don’t cross the line too often, but it seems often when someone has a bad game there’s a chorus of people trying to get rid of them from the club. As Klopp said right when he first came in, perhaps we should learn to think of improvements coming from hard work, development and training rather than replacing all our players every time they go through a tough patch.

And for those who post the kind of despicable comments we’ve seen on Lovren and Karius’s Twitter, pure trash.


16 Jan 2018 13:45:45
long we keep winning, that's all i care? its great from neutral point of view for a game like lfc vs mancity . but at the end only points matter.


16 Jan 2018 13:18:59
Disappointed in Mignolet, I'll be honest.

He's been first choice for years, and never really improved. The same guy who took so long over a GK last season (or season before) we thought he was going to get a red card, the same guy who took a striker out to stop him scoring with the game at 1-0 at 40 mins, Which could easily have cost us the points, could go on and on, but if you work hard, I'm willing to forgive mistakes.

What disappoints me, is that he's now on about leaving because he isn't first choice.
He's done nothing to command the number 1 shirt, and as soon as its time to hard work, as soon as its time to try and earn the shirt, he wants to run. Talking about playing at the WC is laughable, he's not playing ahead of Courtios whatever club he joins.
I'm happy for him to join another club, I'd just like to see more fight and less run from our players,
Maybe there's a point I'm missing,

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16 Jan 2018 13:42:02
The only thing you're missing is the old saying about gift horses and where not to look.


16 Jan 2018 13:44:10
To be fair I think he knows his time is up in the summer anyway, he’s fought for the no.1 spot for ages and I think he’s just recognised it may be the end of the road.


16 Jan 2018 13:46:25
im happy if he's leaving.


16 Jan 2018 12:28:58
Hi Ed's

I've been writing up an article over the past 2 months or so and I would like to share it with everyone if that is ok?
2 questions, how would I go about posting this and Is there a limit on the size as unfinished it currently stands at over 2000 words.

Thank you.

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{Ed033's Note - Hi, you can send it in using the liverpool rumours posting form or the contact form and it can become an article on our Football Articles site.

16 Jan 2018 13:23:26
Many thanks, I'm hoping to have it finished by the end of the week.


{Ed033's Note - ok thanks

16 Jan 2018 12:30:13
Lots of posters hoping we can sign Goretzka on a free, but looking like he's off to Bayern, so how about Max Meyer who is also able to sign a pre-contract?
Apparently he's now playing a deeper holding midfield role for Schalke and doing it well, therefore he could be more adaptable than Goretzka by covering two midfield positions for us.

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16 Jan 2018 12:34:14
May I do the honours Editor #2? - RTFP!


{Ed002's Note - Right now Schalke are offering him around and talking to one side - but they want a new contract. None of it involces Liverpool right now.}

16 Jan 2018 12:58:43
Spooked, I fail to see why RTFP has to do with my original posts which was gauging opinion from posters/ Ed’s on the fact that Max Meyer has seemingly adapted to a new role for his club, a player Liverpool were apparently keen on in the past and if his ability to play a couple of positions in midfield would see him as a good option for our midfield should Can move on.


16 Jan 2018 13:43:40
Bandit - if you had searched for Meyer you would have seen he's been discussed very recently and would have answered your question. that's why RTFP is relevant.


16 Jan 2018 12:27:56
Was watching MNF last night and the discussion regarding Jack Wilshire. Neville was saying he is bay far the best English Midfielder when fit.

My question is would he be worth a punt of throwing a £15m bid in for? Yeah I know he has had a really bad injury record but doesn't seem much of a risk if we got him for that price and if we could get him fit it would be a steel. Thoughts?

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16 Jan 2018 12:34:56
For me he's England's most overrated midfielder by far. He wouldn't get anywhere near our team imo.


16 Jan 2018 12:39:35
No, he is not good enough, he does not stay fit long enough and he has off field issues.

Neville is a poor judge of players as he has shown repeatedly, especially during his very short lived managerial career. He is a pundit because he's good at talking and good at saying stuff like the above to get people talking.


{Ed002's Note - There is zero interest from Liverpool.}

16 Jan 2018 12:40:14
Don't get Ed1 started on Jack Wilshere lol.


16 Jan 2018 12:41:37
Wilshere is the personification of everything wrong with Arsenal and Arsene Wenger.

He is living on past promise, which hasn't been delivered. He is obsessed with finishing above Tottenham, to the point where he turned an FA cup winners parade into a big chant about Spurs. He is the flagship of their injury problems. He is as whiny and petulant as Wenger, to the point where he attacked a youth player. And most of all, he manages to look flashy whilst rarely ever achieving anything.

He isn't the best English midfielder for Christs sake. If we signed him, he'd be our 4th best behind Chamberlain, Lallana and Henderson; marginally ahead of James Milner. I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. And he should thank me for that because the slightest touch might put him out of action for 6 months.


16 Jan 2018 12:44:03
Seen a few football “experts” saying he would be a good signing for us, can’t say that I watch Arsenal enough to make a judgment, but apparently Arsenal have offered him a contract which is lower than his current one (with lots of incentives) .
The lad is made of glass, but who knows, his talent could also be being stifled by Wenger. Wouldn’t be against signing him on a pre-contract, if fit he’s an upgrade on Milner.


16 Jan 2018 13:46:45
Wilshere is also an idiot. I know this personally, I've met quite a few times and he is stupid as hell. He considers the fact that he played on with a broken foot for england, despite the fact that it turned a minor issue into 4 months out, as something to be proud of.

May not sound relevant but we really need smarter midfielders. When we have a problem with balancing our midfield, getting players to read the game and track back, cover for team mates, fill in out wide etc he cannot be the answer. He is one of the least suitable players in the country for a role like that.


16 Jan 2018 14:17:48
He wouldn’t survive klopp’s Intense training regime. He is not as bad as people are abusing him! He is a decent player. We don’t need him as we had Keita coming in the summer!


16 Jan 2018 14:33:08
He's got a terrible reputation (for good reason) but he is a good footballer. If he was more mature he'd be as good as the hype.


16 Jan 2018 16:36:17
Neville is a whopper who completely bombed in his one stint of management at Valencia - his opinions should be taken with a pinch of salt because, whilst he was a very good player, he was clueless as a manager - being an ex-player doesn't mean he knows what he is talking about and his opinion on Wilshere is the perfect case in point.


16 Jan 2018 11:45:55
We have lost 3 games in total this season, only one player in our main squad was not involved in any of those 3 defeats.

Karius

He must be our lucky charm if nothing else haha

We will not be signing a new keeper in January so those bashing him careful what you wish for, he is a step up on Mignolet but needs a run of games to get going.
The way I see it he has between now and the end of the season to make the jersey his and I for one hope he takes it, our job is to support him until then.

Yes he should of saved Sane's shot but it was hardly a huge error, the bigger error came from Gomez which has pretty much gone unmentioned.
Sane's shot was a rocket! Similar to a goal I remember Van Persie scoring against Reina but I don't remember Reina getting torn apart for it.

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16 Jan 2018 12:06:04
I think Karius has only ever lost one game playing for us?


{Ed025's Note - 1 game...and a lot of credibility.. :)

16 Jan 2018 12:17:27
Wrong. Bogdan and Clyne weren't involved either! 😂.


16 Jan 2018 12:17:48
Karius and Editor #1's Christmas lights are our good luck charms this season.


16 Jan 2018 12:30:39
He's kind of right, but Jordan Pickford is absolute dross.


16 Jan 2018 12:46:58
He may not of been involved in the losses but still doubts over him have come up every game he has played, I look forward to seeing him play these last few months of the season and we can see what he is made of.


16 Jan 2018 13:05:32
Good post, Carra!
Also does playing Karius make us more threatening going forward with the high line? Some of our most potent displays this season were with him in the side.

Speaking of lucky charms, VVD is another. 100% record since we signed him.
It’s clear ed1’s chrimbo lights are doing all the heavy lifting though!


16 Jan 2018 13:23:08
Agree Carra well said. It was well struck shot. Perhaps if he was in a different position it may have hit him but unlikely to be able to react to save it. I'm behind him 100% why would we want any player to fail?


16 Jan 2018 12:26:35
ed01 you better not take out the lights!


{Ed001's Note - they stay up all year round, decision has been made don't worry!}

16 Jan 2018 15:37:18
If VVD has a decient run of games how will this impact on the whole of the defence plus the the GP, what I saw of him v Everton he had a very calming influance on everybody.


16 Jan 2018 16:40:29
I agree with this post - Gomez was massively at fault for completely misjudging the cross field pass and then, when making his way back to defend, failing to get anything on Sane's shot (though Matip was equally guilty) . The worry is he has had similar brain farts to these before were he simply loses concentration or allows a man in. I'm not saying we should all jump on his back, absolutely not, he is young and deserves the time to make mistakes and grow as a player, but it simply highlights how different players receive vastly different treatment from fans. Karius made an error, no doubt, but he wasn't the only one and by an large did ok - the lad needs support, and the space to make mistakes without being absolutely crucified, to see if he can turn out good enough. At worst he'll still be an upgrade on Mignolet moving into the second half of the season.


16 Jan 2018 11:26:33
Eds,

Do you guys expect anymore signings or do you think Klopp is happy with the current squad?

I know its a question that you get asked over and over, it's just that I personally think that maybe a AM would be good, just to cover ourselves in case of any injuries for the rest of the season. Obviously it'll have to be the right man for the job and not a panic buy.

What do you guys think about it?

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{Ed002's Note - Why ask again if you know it gets asked over and over. Your are right. We are sick of answering it.}

16 Jan 2018 11:50:49
Sorry about that mate.
I don’t want to be pessimistic but don’t you think that if bad luck strikes and players get injured we might be a little thin in parts of the team (quite a few players are going on loan as well), especially that we have the potential to give the UCL and FA cup a good go.


16 Jan 2018 10:21:25
Ed001

what do you make of Karius' shot stopping compared to Mignolet's?

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{Ed001's Note - too soon to say with Karius.}

16 Jan 2018 10:29:13
See I agree that he hasn't had much to do. Mignolet by comparison has if you take out any sample of 22 games that he has played. Is Karius' general shot-stopping inactivity a sign of instilling more confidence into the defence?


16 Jan 2018 10:37:07
I personally think Karius seems more decisive when the ball is crossed into the box or played in behind our defence, but not clear he’s any better than Migs otherwise. The proof will be in the next few months but frankly if he can help instill a bit of certainty and confidence in our defensive shape and decision making that’s better than what we have now.


16 Jan 2018 11:01:42
We concede relatively few shots anyway, Stable. I don't think either of them has made the defence more confident than the other. The only difference really, that I've seen between them, is that Karius is quicker to release the ball and start attacks. That suits us. Time will tell and if he does play to the end of the season, it may be a pretty good barometer to see if a new number 1 is required. I suspect somebody will still be purchased.

I love nothing more than to see an underdog succeed, however. It would be lovely if he were to make the position his own over the next few months.


16 Jan 2018 11:01:47
Mignolet being a good shot stopper is the biggest myth in the football. He is a dreadful shot stopper, most shots he faces go in and im sure he currently has the lowest percentage of any goalkeeper in the premier league.


16 Jan 2018 11:12:36
Spot on LesDennis.


16 Jan 2018 12:50:23
I think more needs to be looked at how they are being trained, having their hands in questionable positions when a threat on goal is coming needs looking at, both keepers take similar stances and they look unorthodox, no point having low hands at that angle of Sane's goal, it was mid height, anything low and he has more chance of stopping it with his feet, very questionable training methods.


16 Jan 2018 13:45:41
Pets are trained players are coached. as for his hand position every young goalkeeper is thought the classic set position, it's a template most gk develop there own slight variation on it over the years to suit themselves. do people honestly think he has not been trained or of his set position is so bad why has it not been noticed before.

The kid made a mistake we don't know he might have thought it was coming in low and set himself for that.

It's called decision making its how young players learn the game and he is young for a goalkeeper in one of the biggest clubs in the world.
At least give him the rest of the season to pass judgement maybe the confidence of being no 1 choice a run of games and the support of the fans will bring him on.


16 Jan 2018 13:46:26
I think so far karius is a lot better with his feet and distribution. I think he comes out better and is better at one on ones. Not sure how good he is with crosses though our only goalie that can claim dangerous crosses is Ward and he can't get a game.


16 Jan 2018 16:34:33
Its been pointed out before that Mignolet and Karius have similar set positions, coincidence or a way of coaching? Its certainly a lot easier to get your feet moving for a low shot than trying to get your hands and body down to a low shot, I see many keepers crouching to much too, giving the opposition player encouragement to smash it into the roof of the net, when having a taller stance would enable keepers to get hands to the ball, also it can be called a training session or a coaching session, either way not exactly important how its described.


16 Jan 2018 10:20:22
Can't understand why Goretzka would rather move to Bayern where he will be behind Thiago, Vidal and Tolisso in the pecking order, while with us he will walk straight into our team and be playing week in week out in the league and in the champions league. Just hope we can convince him, our midfield would be sorted for years with Keita and him in the middle.

As for the top french international we are trying to sign I can't think of anyone else apart from maybe Payet or Greizmann, both will be hard to convince to join us.

Keeper wise the only one I have seen much of who we are interested in is Oblak. Only thing that bothers me is he isn't a sweeper keeper which I think we need as we tend to play a high line, maybe someone like Navas would be a better choice.

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16 Jan 2018 10:38:39
You can't see why he'd rather play for the biggest club in Germany where he'll win things every season rather than a team that have qualified for the CL twice since 2009?


16 Jan 2018 10:38:59
Payet would be interesting wouldn't it. Would klopp fancy him? its interesting though.

Goretzka will go to Bayern cause all germans want to play for Bayern.


16 Jan 2018 10:42:25
Vidal is 30 and likely to move on. Chelsea definitely wanted him, and if they don't anymore, he could pretty much pick his club. I actually predicted him replacing Fernandinho at City, in the summer.


{Ed002's Note - Vidal won't be moving this month.}

16 Jan 2018 10:50:10
Yeah i meant the summer coming Ed. Sorry, i worded it badly.


{Ed002's Note - Ok.}

16 Jan 2018 10:51:14
Sure Putney he would probably win more trophies but will probably play only 10 games a season and feel as though he never earned them. Maybe I am wrong but for a player his age with the potential he has it makes no sense to go somewhere he won't play week in week out.


16 Jan 2018 10:57:16
He may not play as much as he'd like to next season but he's a young player full of confidence, he'll believe he'll be first choice soon.


16 Jan 2018 11:07:27
Just look at Renato Sanches, he had the world at his feet but couldn't get a game there and its stifled his development, what makes him think it will be any different for him.


16 Jan 2018 11:19:59
Renato Sanches the overrated kid who didn't speak a word of German? Sanches hasn't settled in Germany. I think you'll find Goretzka is German.


16 Jan 2018 11:23:41
Renato Sanches was hyped up way too much after a half decent Euro's. Is it really that hard to stand out in a midfield which contains William Carvalho who can't pass, Andre Gomes who's scared to pass more than 5 yards, and Nani/ Ronaldo who don't understand the very concept of a pass? Anybody could see that Portugal were absolutely terrible on the ball. Their midfield lacked creativity, composure, goals, or any form of ingenuity. The whole success was built on Pepe, Fonte, Ricardo Carvalho and Patricio being solid, experienced and to an degree, dirty. The rest of the team was bang average, with their only tactic being "give it to Ronaldo/ Nani and maybe one of their 15 shots a game will go in". Anybody who watched Sanches in that tournament and was remotely impressed, has incredibly low standards!

Goretzka on the other hand was part of a German midfield alongside Emre Can that absolutely embarrassed everyone else at the Confederations cup, with sublime football. Comparing Goretzka and Sanches genuinely makes it seem as though you never watched either of them play and just formed your opinion based on the media hype around both players.


16 Jan 2018 11:28:30
Good luck to him, he'll make his own decision, I don't think it has anything to do with Liverpool to be honest, he won't be coming here. Goretzka will get games at Bayern, he has all the qualities to succeed.


16 Jan 2018 11:55:12
Overrated Kid? He won the Golden boy in 2016? Nearly every top club on the planet wanted to sign him from Benfica. And I didn't think he had a bad euros to be honest, he scored their only goal against croatia to see them through to the quarter finals and at his age that is some accomplishment.

And I never compared them as players at all MK I was just using Sanches as an example of how for it could go wrong for Goretzka like it did for him. Sure Goretzka could go there and maybe be the first name on the team sheet I don't know but I doubt it. In my opinion it would be better for his development to join a club like us where he would play week in week out. And I am not basing my opinion on them from media hype which doesn't make any sense what you mean, I go to games, I own a TV I do watch football the odd time mate.


16 Jan 2018 12:33:46
I meant no offence CyKlopps. I just think you might have been sucked in by the Sanches hype. He has never even been a good player. He's really, really average.

If i was Goretzka, I'd fancy my chances at the Bayern midfield. They've got Rudy who is poor, Martinez who is more of a centre back, Vidal who is likely to leave soon, and then Thiago and Tolisso who are first teamers for the foreseeable future.

At Liverpool he has Keita (record signing; will start), Chamberlain (another massive signing who is arguably future captain material), Can (might leave, might not), Henderson (current captain who usually plays when fit), and Wijnaldum (another major Klopp buy who tends to play when fit) .

Our midfield lacks balance right now, but once we land Keita and either keep or replace Can, it is arguably harder to break into than Bayern's, despite their first choice midfield currently being very strong. Germany is the country to play in if you are young player. They give you chances and the fans have patience.


16 Jan 2018 12:38:32
He is massively overrated in my opinion, can't even get a game for Swansea that's how overrated he is!


16 Jan 2018 13:01:10
None taken MK, having seen his recent form at Swansea recently I would agree with you but in the games I watched in his Benfica days I was impressed for someone of his age who looked like he had all the physical attributes to be great midfielder, different perspectives I guess.

Yes If Vidal was to leave I would agree with you as he would only really just have Tolisso to compete with to partner Thiago. Is Vidal destined to leave ed?


{Ed002's Note - There are two interested sides who might still be interested in the summer if the fee is low enough but neither has spoken with Bayern Munich recently. He certainly won't be leaving this month. It will also depend on what the new manager at Bayern Munich wants to do.}

16 Jan 2018 13:17:50
What i don't get about any of this is that you are arguing that Goretzka (and by extension other young players with potential who aren't quite at the top yet) should come to Liverpool, as it will be better for their development because they will play regularly and may well become great players with us.

But then, when exactly that same thing happens with Coutinho, he joins as a young player needing games, gets games, becomes great and then moves to the club he's always wanted to play for, everyone freaks out that we develop these players and then they leave.

All seems like a bit strange to me. Either we are a stepping stone for where a player wants to be or we are the destination that a player wants to end up at when they reach the top. I would much rather miss out on players like Goretzka and become the team that everyone wants to join by building a great squad with players who want to play for us, than sign players who want to use us in order to obtain their dream move somewhere else.


16 Jan 2018 13:30:37
Who's Arguing? Jeez if I knew a simple post would cause such commotion I wouldn't of bothered.


16 Jan 2018 13:50:25
RedDawn - i think the continuing point is that people will hope that with a player like him, we will start taking home the trophies and people want to leave. They want to attract the best players, not be a stepping stone. At no point did CyKlopps or anyone else mention him then going to Bayern when he got established as a top player at Liverpool.


16 Jan 2018 10:00:31
question for ed001. Which goalkeeper would you like to see liverpool go in for?

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{Ed001's Note - Alisson.}

16 Jan 2018 10:51:53
Oblak is probably totally unrealistic, but he'd be my pick 😂

If not, i like Alisson or Meret.


16 Jan 2018 11:20:41
It’s only my opinion but whatever keeper we might get has to be accompanied by a new gk coach. Not saying acteberg has had mercs to work with but they’ve all finished as fiestas.


16 Jan 2018 11:06:56
Is that because Donnarumma is unattainable ed?


{Ed001's Note - no, I think Alisson would be a better choice.}

16 Jan 2018 12:45:27
Do you think we'll go after him Ed?


{Ed002's Note - It depends what happens elsewhere as to whether Liverpool would be considered as an option by him.}

16 Jan 2018 13:04:04
Oblak, Alisson Becker or Casteels.


16 Jan 2018 12:51:36
Ed I haven't seen enough of either Alisson or Oblak play. What makes you prefer Alisson?


{Ed001's Note - Oblak gets much better protection, so it is difficult to judge him in comparison to be fair to him. However Alisson stands out whenever I have seen him play, though it is not as much as I would like to truly judge him, it has been enough to see a player on the level of de Gea in the games I have seen. Maybe even better. Obviously I have not seen every game he has played recently, so might just be lucky to see his best performances, but he looks a class apart.}

16 Jan 2018 14:35:22
I saw a suggestion that while Oblak does get great protection, that great protection can be partly attributed to his organisation skills.


16 Jan 2018 15:42:53
Good to know ed. I can now stick a photo of Alisson over Mr January. 😀.


16 Jan 2018 16:25:49
{Ed002's Note - It depends what happens elsewhere as to whether Liverpool would be considered as an option by him. }

Please do you mind listing the other options that he may want to consider ahead of us? Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - It is possible, depending on what happens elsewhere, that Real Madrid could look at him but I suspect they will want someone experienced.}

16 Jan 2018 09:56:46
I was wondering what people's opinions were of Jack Butland (preferably someone who's seen him play regularly)?

Second question, would you be happy to have him at Liverpool (I guess that largely ties in to any answer to the first) .

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16 Jan 2018 10:11:15
I Honestly don't think Jack Butland is the answer to anything, unless the question is which GK should we avoid?! I've seen him flap at crosses just like Mignolet, let's weak shots past him like Mignolet and because he is English will cost around 3.5 times more than what he is actually worth! And did i mention he is very injury prone for a GK? If we sign him a lot of people will get a shock of just how average he has become after all the injuries. I remember when we were signing Mignolet i wanted us to stay well clear, and Butland is in the same boat for me. We should go for a real nr.1 Handanovic, Alisson, even both Burnley keepers (Heaton and Pope) are better than Butland.


16 Jan 2018 10:16:35
Average goal keeper. I have no idea why he is rated so highly. He is weak on crosses, his handling is atrocious, his decision making is comical, and he always tries to make his saves look spectacular so he concedes too many corners and is never set to launch a quick break. He is the reason why Stoke are the worst team in Europe at conceding set pieces, because he constantly gives them away cheaply and then flaps at them afterwards. I'll admit that he is very good at making the flying saves, and he is also very vocal. His kicking is also decent to be fair. He is in no way, shape, or form an upgrade on Karius though.

If we are looking at keepers within the Premier league then i see it as this;

De Gea - world class. Best in the league. No chance.

Ederson - over rated. Good kicker and sweeper keeper but poor in other areas. No chance anyway.

Lloris - most complete keeper in the league, in that he is good at everything. However he makes a lot of mistakes. I'm not sure he would be realistic as PSG and Real Madrid might seriously consider him.

Courtois - best in the league in terms of handling and commanding his area, but has other weaknesses particularly on stopping low shots. Another Real Madrid might want.

Cech - best organiser in the league, but losing his agility and reflexes. No point in signing him unless it is to be as the experienced back up.

Pickford - decent young keeper, but very dodgy on crosses and too ambitious in his distribution at times which has cost Everton some cheap goals. Very vocal though. Everton to sell to us? No chance.

Pope - the best keeper in the league outside of Courtois, De Gea and Lloris. Great on crosses, vocal, great shot stopper, decent off his line although Burnley sit deep, good kicking. Unspectacular but very reliable and a good all rounder.

Hart, Forster, Foster etc - Hahahaha

Personally I'd look beyond the Premier League, but if we want a player from within it, i can't look past Nick Pope. Already lives in the North West, still young, and is a realistic target.


16 Jan 2018 10:26:21
Havent seen much of him at stoke but I went to a lot of games when he was at Birmingham and he looked as though he was destined for the top. Hope his injuries don't get in his way as he had a few now. I wouldn't mind him as I think he still maybe has potential to get even better.


16 Jan 2018 10:37:56
Pope will be second choice at Burnley when Heaton is back fit and no body has mentioned him. Made his England breakthrough. Good keeper. To be honest I would look at Handanovic (the younger) very good and attainable I would expect. Alisson seems to be flavor of the month at the moment. I am guessing PSG will fight hard for him.


16 Jan 2018 11:03:48
If Burnley drop Pope for Heaton, when he's back fit, Sean Dyche will severely drop in my estimation. Heaton is weak with crosses and his kicking. Don't get me wrong, Heaton was a good keeper but he's been injured a long time, and Pope has performed better than Heaton ever has in his career. Dyche doesn't strike me as a weak minded fool though, like most managers. If he thinks Pope is better, he will stick with him. He'd be mad not to after the season he's having. He was very good in his last year at Charlton as well, a club at which he actually played with Joe Gomez. Why on earth would you drop a younger, better player just to pander to one of your favourites? Dyche is better than that.


16 Jan 2018 11:44:36
Poor since his injury.

GKs often struggle to come back from long injury lay offs.
Rated him highly before injury.


16 Jan 2018 02:00:51
Hey eds! is emre can still looking to leave the club or is he looking more likely to sign a new contract now?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know what he is looking to do.}

16 Jan 2018 10:13:24
I still think he's going to juve and the talk of his proposed contract there makes me think it's not about money (85k) I would think we would pay him more. I think he just sees juve as a club that challenges for their league and the champions league year in year out although I hope we are building towards that now he might see things differently. If he wants the move that's his prerogative having seen out his contract and I would wish him all the best.


16 Jan 2018 09:01:57
Looks like Can maybe staying then, personally I'd rather let Hendo go and keep Can.

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16 Jan 2018 09:28:06
If he stays I don’t expect another CM to come in baring Kieta which means Hendo goes to the bench or out!


16 Jan 2018 09:30:11
Personally i wish people would leave Henderson alone, the guy deserves nothing but credit playing with and trough a bad injury he has to manage!


16 Jan 2018 09:44:57
Legendary, you have wrote exactly my thoughts. I don't understand why so many people are against Henderson. When fully fit on his day he is so vital for us, people fail to realise this and it's concerning.


16 Jan 2018 10:15:24
Really Hope can stays.


16 Jan 2018 10:16:47
Because they are boo boys who would rather lavish praise on someone like Coutinho who disrespected the club, fakes injury etc rather than praise Hendo who gives his all and plays through injury for the club. The same sort of fans who used to give Lucas grief.


16 Jan 2018 10:19:59
I'm sure one of the Eds said Hendo would be "fazed" out.


16 Jan 2018 10:46:46
Hendo is a better player than Can, the only thing holding him back is injuries. If he can recover he'll be at the club for a long time.


16 Jan 2018 10:47:10
Nobody denies Henderson's passion and willingness to work like a tireless donkey. However, its becoming more apparent, Liverpool don't threaten as well with Hendo in the side. Can and Gini's performances prove they work together well.

Don't agree with Spooked comments; we have shown more desire to win the ball back and also have a stronger attacking presence without hendo and there are many stats out there to prove it.


16 Jan 2018 11:03:47
please show me those stats?! Because its a fact liverpool has almost 18 % higher winning rate with Henderson in the side than not, so i would love to see the stats you are talking about!


16 Jan 2018 11:12:31
Henderson is better than Can, Gini, Lallana, Milner and Chamberlain in all of their respective roles; such is his versatility.

However that is only when he is fit. Seeing as he hasn't been fit for 3 years now, i think it is time to move on. I was al for giving him time, but after his latest set back, I've given up hope and it is not fair on the fans or the rest of the team to wait for him any longer. If he's not fit to play 40 games a season, move on.


16 Jan 2018 11:23:02
I'd rather trust Klopps judgment on this particular matter than yours Mk Scouser, no disrespect whatsoever mate.


16 Jan 2018 11:34:15
Hendo is a strong, solid midfielder and just needs a lucky run without injuries to "prove" his quality again.


16 Jan 2018 11:43:05
Because the only stat that matter to me is LFC winning games!


16 Jan 2018 12:15:16
The Klopp who is targeting more midfielders, Legendary? Since joining the club he has signed Grujic, Wijnaldum, Chamberlain and Keita. He is clearly not happy with his midfield, as we're still after at least 1 other midfielder on top of that.

I respect what you're doing though mate. I've spent the last 3 years defending Henderson from abuse. People still can't see what he brings to the team when fit. I've just finally given up hope on him actually ever being fit to play a decent run of games. This happened to Lucas as well remember. Fantastic midfielder, struggled with injury for a few years, and was never quite the same again. You can't build a team around players who can't stay fit. I think Klopp has already realised that though to be honest.

It's time to move on mate. Keep Henderson as a squad player for sure. He is a model pro and a great player. He has nothing to "prove" ability wise in my opinion. A lot of our players are just entering their prime though. Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Moreno, Gini, Can, Chamberlain, Mane, Salah and Firmino are all between 24-26 years old. Over the next 5 years, we need to win something major because after that, we'll probably need to start rebuilding again with half the squad being in their 30's. With that in mind, it is not fair on these players if we ask them to just hang tight for another couple of years because we are waiting for Henderson. He needs replacing, and then if he finds fitness after that, it will just be an added bonus. A footballers career is short, and for as long as we are hoping for Henderson's return and therefore refusing to replace him in midfield and as captain, we are building a weak link into our best XI. I hope he gets fit again this season and finds form so it doesn't come to that, but is anybody confident of that anymore?


16 Jan 2018 12:32:24
ChickenTikkaMoSalah, I await to hear these stats you talk of. Only stats I'm interested in is the final score. That's the only stat what matters to me but your stats sound interesting.

MK, I am quite confident on it to be honest, I totally understand what you're saying in your post and your not wrong but I really do think he can bounce back. Obviously right now it's a guessing game, we just don't know whether he will or he won't but I'd certainly like to think he can.


16 Jan 2018 13:20:45
If you were to compare the other top 5 teams in the PL and compare Henderson to players in their midfield. Would we stand out as #1 and title contenders? Look Henderson’s a class act, works hard give his all bad luck with injury, but I’ve said since he arrived we will not win trophies with Henderson in midfield. I’m sorry that’s reality. You can be other positions, lack of this too much of that and fair enough, but it’s not all on him but when top flight teams add players like De Bruyne to a midfield with David silva, or a Kante to fabregas, all, Erickson, we are delusional to think we compare. Just my opinion, but I thought the lads played exceptional on Sunday best I’ve seen in a long time, the passion desire was unmatched accompanied by the skill we know they all have and the confidence to use it with perfection. Couldn’t be prouder. YNWA.


16 Jan 2018 13:26:49
Irony, when people moan about player loyalty and the likes of Coutinho not honouring his contact and then trying to force our loyal captain out ( who gives his all for the club) whilst he tries to over come his injuries . Brilliant.


16 Jan 2018 08:58:40
I think Jurgen's extreme rotation policy in December has really paid off.

We got 10 points from 12 games in the festive period and the team does not look as fatigued at the moment.

Not being in the league cup has also helped. Chelsea and Arsenal players look really tired and this could be to our advantage.

Hope Chelsea's replay goes into extra time and so does the second leg of the league cup semi. haha.

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16 Jan 2018 09:12:46
Shocking isn't it? Keeping players fresher than our opponants did helped us even though it gave us one bad game against West Brom (Everton wasnt a bad game, just unlucky) . Who would have thought.


16 Jan 2018 09:23:05
Yeah funny how media frenzy on sky sports about klopps rotation stopped and hasn't been mentioned! A draw against West brom and you would have thought the we were in crisis and rotation to blame. Yet not one bit of praise for his rotation in the last month or so!


16 Jan 2018 09:54:01
10 points of 36? What? ? Confused :S.


16 Jan 2018 13:21:44
I think he meant 10 out of 12 points in the festive period.


16 Jan 2018 08:51:45
I keep reading about how Mane has had a worse season this year.

It's just not true though. Last year he finished with 13 goals (one every 172 minutes) and 8 assists.

He already has 9 goals (one every 158 minutes) and 6 assists.

So not only is he scoring more, he's also on course to directly create more as well.

People even had the gall to call his City goal a miss-hit, even though he did the exact same thing against Burnley a couple of weeks ago!

There are only 2 reasons why Mane has been accused of having a worse season than the last. Those 2 reasons are Salah and Firmino. Mane has not been bad at all. In fact, this is his best season in terms of goal scoring in his Premier League career, so far. His only problem has been that he's been eclipsed by others. Considering injury, illness and suspension has hampered his season so far, and yet he has still scored vital goals that have earned us points against Watford (1point gained), Crystal Palace (2 points gained), Burnley (2 points gained) and Man City (2 points gained) off the top of my head. Without those 7 points, we're out of the top 4 scrapping with Arsenal over who gets to be the least of a laughing stock.

Mane for me is still the best left sided forward in the world after Neymar. Some may say Hazard, but Mane has out scored him this season, despite Hazard playing as central striker on a few occasions, and barely missing a game. Hazard has flattered to deceive in nearly every season, and the only time he finished with a decent tally of goals, most of them were penalties. Mane is less pretty, much he is miles more effective. Maybe the only other players who even have a right to make a claim they're better than Mane, are Carrasco, Insigne, Coutinho and Sane. I wouldn't swap Mane for any of them though, personally.

I think Liverpool fans sometimes don't realise how lucky we are to have this fella. Just look at how many times he won possession back against Man City. His finishing, his creativity, and his tenacity are almost unrivalled. As a trio, i don't think there is a better front 3 in Europe than ours, except maybe Neymar, Cavani and Mbappe. It's hard to judge them though as Lacazette, Hazard and Giroud were 30 goal a season players in France and none of them are even in double figures yet this season!

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16 Jan 2018 09:10:40
Mane Mane, do do do do do do.

We need to show him the love as he equally as important as firmino and Salah.


16 Jan 2018 09:15:20
personally i think Mane has been very good this season as well. and he very much suits how klopp wants his team to play. to add to what u just said about his goal tally and assist, he has another half a season to play.

he has however, looked frustrated with himself the past couple of games, so im happy he scored that goal against (what a goal as well), i hope he's not beating himself over his performances, because it isn't that bad, even when he's not playing well, which says a lot.


16 Jan 2018 09:17:48
In fairness MK, wasn't most of that talk in mid December where he'd done little and had missed a number of glorious chances in a row/ failed to make easy decisions to pass rather than shoot?

Since the Arsenal game he's massively recovered his form, bolstered his figures with 2 goals and an assist and generally been back to the absolute menace usually is. I think people were mostly worried by those over the top selfish decisions, taking on hard shots when there are easy passes to basically open goals available. But he got over their impact so we did too and he's back to being part of the fab 3! (sorry, I really like Ox but he's not making up the fab 4 yet)


16 Jan 2018 09:55:39
Mane is miles better than Hazard in my opinion. It's a non starter. He works harder, he scores more despite not being the penalty taker, he creates more, and he has never downed tools to get a manager sacked.

Hazard is a fantastic player, but for all his talent, he rarely ever impacts the score line directly. If i was banging on about pass completion or shot conversion, you'd have a point, baby driver. I do think Hazard is the best in the league at taking players on, but so what when he constantly smashes his shots off target and rarely ever passes the bloody ball?

Mane scores and creates more goals than Hazard and that to me is enough to put him ahead, even if you don't consider Mane's more complete all around game to go with it. Mane is fast becoming the most under rated player in the league, purely because his team mate Salah has made him look average by literally outscoring Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo.


16 Jan 2018 09:52:06
I love Mane. I really do. and every game I wish him the best.
He was unstoppable last season and we really really missed him in the winter.
then Salah came in took all the light away from Mane.
But it seems like Mane is starting to play for the team as opposed to himself which I saw in the recent games. minus city.
He's getting there. I love the guy and wish him continued progression.


16 Jan 2018 10:07:40
I think he's just took a bit of time being moved over to the left so that Salah can play off the right, he looks on track to get over 15 now so yankfully it's worked and we all know what Salah has been doing.


16 Jan 2018 11:18:11
It was that shot in the Everton game which tarnished him. Everyone, except maybe Salah, has had a small dip in form so far this season but that was the most high profile mistake in a high profile game which cost us. People always remember the one mistake rather than the loads of positives. I'm just glad he seems back and scoring and generally being the Mane we all know and love.


16 Jan 2018 11:51:32
Shaky start to the season with the injury and being in and out of the team but you can only see him getting better and better as the season goes on from now. Top player in my eyes!


16 Jan 2018 13:24:15
Yeah he was just going through a rough patch of form but seems to have recovered from it. Hope he continues his improvement.


16 Jan 2018 16:34:43
i think there are many players who have outscored ronaldo!


16 Jan 2018 16:35:07
We will see the best of Mane in a Red shirt next season based on the Keita effect.


16 Jan 2018 08:35:29
I'm a massive fan of Joe Gomez, but it's a bit worrying to see a lot of bad habits and mistakes in his game that have led to us conceding goals.

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16 Jan 2018 08:52:22
Young player, out of position, performing at the level he does. There is no reason to worry there at all, literally none.


16 Jan 2018 08:55:22
He is a young defender who will make the odd mistake, it is important that he learns from them over time and playing at the top level will help him. Being dropped for one mistake would destroy the poor lad.


16 Jan 2018 08:56:26
I'm not seeing "a lot" of bad habits.

I see one major flaw to his game, and that is that he misjudges the flight of balls over his head. That is something that can be learned though. Aside from that, what other bad habits has he got? 🤔 he's a 20 year old centre back who just contributed massively to a vital victory over one of the best attacks in Europe. I'm not concerned about him one bit. In fact, i reckon in 18 months time he'll be first choice centre back for Liverpool and England. Hold me to it!


16 Jan 2018 09:00:46
What do you define as Bad habits. I see him covering a lot of space due to the lack of pace from the central defence. I thought he was unlucky with mis judging the ball in the air due to the wind. I am a huge Joe fan he excites me and he is so young. I actually think he is better on the ball than stones.


16 Jan 2018 09:01:11
There could be a chance of a new RB coming in the summer which must be the case as Gomez is a CB and needs to play there!


16 Jan 2018 09:17:00
He’s missed three key crosses to the back post or over his head so far as I’m aware, something he needs to work on but hardly a crisis.

His overall defending has been outstanding and I’m sure its at least partly because he’s learning at FB. At CB he doesn’t have to worry about that wide ball into acres of space, and it’s rare that he’d have to worry about someone sneaking in back post without someone behind him to give him a shout.

He’ll learn and until then I’ll happily accept him as one of our best defenders that makes the odd mistake while he matures.


16 Jan 2018 09:21:27
id be more concerned if we don't have anyone in the training grounds pointing out his mistakes for him to learn from.

i have no answer to it, but i just feel abit more confident that our coaching staff are doing it, as i have seen improvements in our players, i mean apart from mignolet.


16 Jan 2018 09:54:58
Altho you'd hope any pro learns in the same aeason, or the next game. In reality it takes longer especially for younger players. Guys like milnet who still at hiss age go diving 100mph to press only to get beaten by a slight turn of the hips, just grates me to pieces!


16 Jan 2018 10:01:06
MK not aware of where the player he is making is. They drift off him too easily.


16 Jan 2018 12:39:30
Future liverpool and England captain. I said this to all my mates last year and got slaughtered. still believe he will. World class potential.


16 Jan 2018 13:26:54
Gomez has a tendency to misjudge the flight of balls and go ball-watching or get caught under it. He really needs to improve his reading of the ball.

Other than that, he's been pretty solid and reliable in defence.


16 Jan 2018 07:38:43
Looks like migs is considering his future at the club. As he says in a interview over night that he needs to think about his future as there is a World Cup coming up.

Looks like karius is getting a run in the team.

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16 Jan 2018 08:19:41
Klopp has already come out and said before the City game that Karius will be number 1 now.

i think he is decided over mignolet and is looking to give Karius a fair chance to prove himself till the end of the season.


16 Jan 2018 08:45:42
It's making me wonder now he has said this. I wonder if he can get a move this month? We're only half way through the window, anything is possible. Even if this was to happen I'd still want Karius to have his chance before bringing somebody else in.


16 Jan 2018 08:57:40
So the rest of the season including knockout stages of CL with just Karius and Ward?

Risky.


16 Jan 2018 08:58:03
According to the interview Mignolet gave, he spoke to Klopp about chopping and changing goalkeepers. Klopp obviously agreed and made Karius his choice.


16 Jan 2018 09:02:10
LOl. 2 games on the bench and he fear of his chances at WC. He must be dumb to think he would ever replace Courtios!


16 Jan 2018 09:15:09
True Ron. I know what your saying but if all else fails, we have Bogdan ;)


16 Jan 2018 13:38:45
Maybe he’s considering his future in goalkeeping as a trade cos the only way he’s going to the World Cup is if he’s selling ice cream. I don’t think he’d even be trusted to do that without dropping them.


16 Jan 2018 07:29:00
Hi Ed's, second time poster love you long time reader.

So, there was a photo on Instagram with Can and Lovren In, I believe and the other Liverpool players comments were suggesting that someone in the photo had come into a some money, maybe a new bumper contract. Does anyone know for sure what the players were referring to? I thought there would of been more made of this because reading between the lines it would suggest that Can has signed a new contract with us. Especially since everyone really rates Can since he decided he might leave.

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{Ed001's Note - it could be anything mate, no point worrying about those kind of things as you can read a billion things into them.}

16 Jan 2018 07:57:02
Could just be the fact that they're millionaire footballers who have more money than a normal human can spend? They don't need a new contract to be rich 😂

Seriously though, Can and Lovren probably earn what, £140k a week including wages, sponsorships, endorsements etc? Knock £40k off in tax (as they probably have some clever git doing their taxes) .

How in gods name can anyone spend £100k a week! If there is a Premier League footballer at a top 6 club, older than 23 who doesn't have at least £10m sat in their bank account, they must live a proper playboy life! I went shopping the other year when my wardrobe needed some major TLC and spent a good 3 hours and it came to £300. Even at that ridiculous rate i could only spend £2400 in 24 hours, assuming i don't sleep.

Can probably just found a wad of £50 notes that he had dropped in between the seats in his Bentley Continental last month, and forgotten about!

In all seriousness, i hope he does re-sign. His desire looked like it had cone flooding back against Man City, so reading between the lines, maybe he has decided to stay?

Can, Keita and Ox is a brutally powerful midfield. They can all play football too though!


16 Jan 2018 09:03:45
Can and Kieta in the middle would be mouth watering. Kieta can act as a proper Matic when Can drives forward! He is amich better player positionally than Hendo or Wijnaldum!


16 Jan 2018 08:54:45
I just took those IG comments to be a reference to City's stupid money not winning it for them. Just beaten the richest club in england, posting cash emoji's. seemed to fit.


16 Jan 2018 09:16:17
Getting Fined for taking photo is dressing room.


16 Jan 2018 09:20:20
The money sign was because they get fined for taking Selfies inside the changing rooms.


16 Jan 2018 09:59:50
Yes MK, when news for keita broke my first thought was that Can and Keita could be our midfield engine for years. I do hope that remains the case. Can has everything in his locker, just needs to keep building and deveeloping.


16 Jan 2018 10:51:01
Or it might of been the fact there was a massive bonus in it for beating them? Or a points target over a certain amount of games.


The Week In Football

16 Jan 2018 05:52:04
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, The Week In Football

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16 Jan 2018 06:23:30
Good read ed, cheers! I can’t believe that ref in France though. I wonder if he’ll ever take charge of a game again. I shouldn’t but I had to laugh when he actually sent the player off! I bet he regretted that moment of red mist before the game ended. What a stupid stupid thing to do!


{Ed001's Note - thanks mate, I still can't get over that ref either. The more you watch it the stupider and more unbelievable it gets. Even his excuses are embarrassing.}

16 Jan 2018 07:23:58
is this new ed001? i love this and wouldn't mind this to continue on a weekly basis! maybe u can start numbering them so we know which is which if it becomes a series!

short and sweet, fantastic.


{Ed001's Note - sort of new. Before people starting sending in stuff, this is what I used to write for the site all the time, these kind of short news articles.}

16 Jan 2018 07:26:35
Complete disbelief. The ref kicks the player for incidental contact. Then, sends him off. The only thing worse and more embarrassing than his conduct was his "apology".


16 Jan 2018 07:42:11
And the ref actually changes direction when running; causing the coming together.


16 Jan 2018 07:46:18
Saw that, thought it was a joke until he walked off! He shouldn't ref again!


16 Jan 2018 08:00:42
Good feature that Ed enjoyed reading that.


{Ed001's Note - thanks mate.}

16 Jan 2018 08:38:47
This is a fantastic piece to read. Thanks Editor! You have a true gift with regards to writing sir.


{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, glad you enjoyed.}

16 Jan 2018 09:27:07
wouldnt mind seeing this on a weekly basis ed, if and whenever you have the time though, i know its short, but surely some work went into it.

enjoying the articles and posts that you have done, with the match previews, match reviews and now this. this some of the player profiles are not really my thing but im sure some do enjoy it.

im sure other people have preferences but i like the simplicity of the articles, the match previews and reviews, i've stopped going to any other football website entirely. sometimes people write too much, when you could do it in one paragraph. not sure where im going with this, but i guess this is just a feedback, and just saying i appreciate the work.


{Ed001's Note - thank you very much mate. I do intend to do this, as and when I have the time. Hopefully at least weekly.}

15 Jan 2018 21:34:35
Dear Eds,

Thoughts about the use of social media by footballers? If possible it would be great to here a pro and con about it.

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{Ed001's Note - I honestly can't think of any pros to it. But then I do not like social media, it is not social and just brings out the worst in people.}

16 Jan 2018 07:27:09
If you are a player, social media should be nowhere near your way of life, IMO.


16 Jan 2018 07:43:58
Isn't this a form of social media Ed? I am only a Digital Consultant, but it does look and feel like it 😉.


{Ed001's Note - good point, I should have said unfettered social media.}

16 Jan 2018 09:57:10
I think social media gives fans an insight to their idols life's.
As silly as it seems. a lot of younger kids use this as motivation.
They can achieve that. I want to.
dont get me wrong I don't think it's a good thing personally. but I can see it's merits.


16 Jan 2018 13:16:45
Given how Footballers tend to be a little bit dense, why do they not have people run their twitter for them? I know some do, but what I mean is why don't the club enforce this kind of thing?


15 Jan 2018 20:55:06
Ed 001 what is your opinion on Carlos tevez? Ever wanted him at Liverpool? Could he have been one of the best if he wasn't such an idiot?

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{Ed001's Note - when he arrived in England I would have taken him all day long, he was far too good to be involved in a relegation battle and worked incredibly hard for the team too. He was one of the best for a short period. Shame he was such a dick and all about money. Plus he had the worst agents of all who were not interested in his wellbeing or what was best for him.}

16 Jan 2018 07:28:08
Ironically his then agent, was Kia Jorabchian, the now agent of a certain Phil Coutinho.


{Ed001's Note - exactly.}

 
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