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15 Feb 2017 17:57:58
Hi Ed002, quick question if I may. Do Juventus have a serious interest in Emre Can?


{Ed002's Note - No Max.}

1.) 15 Feb 2017 18:06:39
Thanks Ed002.



04 Feb 2017 14:02:59
Starting lineup:

Mignolet, Clyne, Lucas, Matip, Milner, Henderson, Can, Lallana, Coutinho, Mane, Firmino

Subs: Karius, Gomez, Moreno, Alexander-Arnold, Wijnaldum, Origi, Sturridge

Dejan Lovren and Ragnar Klavan miss today's game due to a knee injury and illness respectively.


1.) 04 Feb 2017 14:35:28
why is can in in front Wijnaldum?

2.) 04 Feb 2017 17:02:57
all this dropping players is wrong.

3.) 04 Feb 2017 17:10:43
Just when is Klopps plan B envelope going to be opened? . 10 men behind the ball and liverpool don't know what to do.

4.) 04 Feb 2017 18:18:33
what is wrong with old fashioned 442 in games like this from the start getting 2 upfront we do not need extra men in the middle when teams are just seating back.

5.) 04 Feb 2017 18:57:33
Spot on, Grino. Something needs to be done ASAP cos we are practicing insanity right now, doing the same things and expecting different results. We know what these teams will do to us YET we play the same way, leaving ourselves exposed for counter attacks. Why are we playing two holding mids vs bus parkers?

Can is having a rough time yet plays ahead of Wiji who is in form and scored last game? Might as well play a 442 or 442 diamond or just do something cos we are blowing this season, we`re blowing it.

6.) 04 Feb 2017 21:18:22
As much as I agree with the sentiment that there is no plan b, we are not only NOT playing with 2 holding mids, we don't even play with 1. Hendo plays as a deep lying playmaker and whoever the other 2 are selected, play in front of him. No holding mid at all, in reality. Lots of other things to question and moan about, but this is just inaccurate, for those who actually watch and understand the game.



03 Feb 2017 19:29:54
Ed002, do you believe Sturridge is on his way out in the summer and Ings was subject to some bids last summer. Is there still interest in Ings from clubs?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest in Ingsbut I do think DS will be moving on this summer Max.}

1.) 04 Feb 2017 12:50:42
If DS moves to another prom club he will come back to haunt Liverpool.

2.) 04 Feb 2017 13:30:03
Thank you for the reply Ed002.

Love this site!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

3.) 05 Feb 2017 23:11:30
Studge is haunting us already. He's just not the player he was in 2014.

4.) 11 Feb 2017 15:40:12
How will DS come back to haunt us? He's on good money sitting on the bench and has shown no real form since Suarez left. More likely to score an injury as a goal. If we can make a few quid and get his wages off the wage bill then why not?



03 Feb 2017 17:43:29
Believe we will see quite a few more players leave in the summer. Sturridge's future is uncertain, Sakho and Lucas most definitely will leave. Mignolet, Clyne and Ings possibly too.

Along with more academy players. If there are going to be many outs again in the summer then Klopp might just go very big and with CL football on the cards he might just go all out to bring in 2-3 top quality players to take our squad to the next level.


1.) 03 Feb 2017 20:35:35
Ings? no chance, the poor bugger has simply been unlucky, I can't see him been let go. The rest I agree with.

2.) 04 Feb 2017 03:47:20
I would throw Millie and Moreno into the may-leaves.

3.) 04 Feb 2017 11:58:56
Why Clyne? He's one of the best right backs in the league, and if it's because you think Trent is ready to take over, I disagree- he's not ready for first team football every single game yet.

4.) 04 Feb 2017 12:33:59
One of the best right backs in the league? Come one, he's not even in the top 5!

5.) 04 Feb 2017 12:33:59
One of the best right backs in the league? Come one, he's not even in the top 5!

6.) 04 Feb 2017 19:17:21
Ben if you think Clyne is one of the best RB's in the PL then, you need to re-evaluate your knowledge of the RB position cos that is patently false. If Clyne was that good, why was Klopp looking to replace him last summer.

Clyne is poor especially offensively as he has no end product. He's a ball watcher and doesn't track runners, things TAA is already better at than him. Don't be surprised if he's no longer here next season.

7.) 05 Feb 2017 18:15:02
Plz add lallana and most important Can to that list.



09 Oct 2016 09:03:49
ED002, regarding Coutinho and rumours surfacing again, do you believe there will be bids from the likes of Barcelona and PSG in January?


{Ed002's Note - The club are aware of what Coutinho told three international team mates last season and are also aware that PSG, Barcelona and Bayern Munich have continued to have Coutinho watched. I understand that PSG will make an offer in preparation for a January transfer and that the player has been made aware of this and has spoken to a couple of players about PSG. Right now I would expect him to stay until the summer and then consider his options - but PSG will look for a January deal. Liverpool will look to do what they can to hold on to him. I think offers in January from elsewhere are unlikely (as of this time).}

1.) 09 Oct 2016 10:31:14
Good update ed as always. I guess Liverpool will help there own cause if we wre still in and around top 4 come Jan and Couts thinks he can win things here?

{Ed002's Note - What matters for European football is the end of the season. A move to a club such as PSG would see him much higher profile and doing well domestically and with good opportunities in the Champions League - it will have its attractions. He has also spoken to a couple of players about PSG so the thought is already there as a seed.}

2.) 09 Oct 2016 10:43:21
Owe right ok. doesn't sound great then imo. I guess he will go and we will again be looking to replace our best player. doesn't need an answer ed its just my thoughts now. Were doing well and now this.

3.) 09 Oct 2016 10:44:32
There seems to be an air of inevitability that he will leave at some point I just hope we can have a great season and hold on to him for as long as possible. I'm not sure PSG would want to pay the crazy money we would want for him judging by their summer bid. Just out of curiosity Ed is the rumour about them being willing to use moura in any potential deal true?

{Ed002's Note - Moura has established himself as a starter and I don't see any plans for PSG to move him on now. And unless Liverpool were to move Mane, who plays in the same position, on I cannot see Liverpool being interested in any case.}

4.) 09 Oct 2016 11:10:42
I guess we just knuckle down and see what we can do in the league this year. If we have a blinder maybe he can be sold on klopps vision for the club.
If he does decide to leave in the summer it will be for north of £50 mil and we will have to move on without him. I do worry that it will leave players like firmino and mane looking to their next move if they carry on improving.

5.) 09 Oct 2016 11:29:24
I don't think it's worth worrying about just yet, if/ when we make top 4, he'll stay i reckon, still. very interesting to read your comments ed2, i had no idea about any of it. we can only hope he stays with us, fantastic player none of us want to lose.

6.) 09 Oct 2016 11:40:55
No player is bigger than the club. Coutinho is a good, yet not great player in my opinion and if someone makes a stupidly large enough bid then I'd not be terribly upset if he left - it might result in more game time for an out and out striker e. g. Origi or Sturridge.

7.) 09 Oct 2016 13:11:15
If coutinho does leave we should focus on bringing in Marco Reus. or maybe Draxler. I would much rather keep hold of the little magician though 😞.

8.) 09 Oct 2016 13:16:07
not a great player? he's one of our best players lol. tell me please, how Coutinho isn't a great player? he's world class mate, there's a reason why the top clubs in europe are after him.

9.) 09 Oct 2016 13:37:11
I guess part of the attraction of a January move would be he could feature in Europe for PSG if they are still in it?

10.) 09 Oct 2016 15:08:23
Why would any player go psg? Win the French league and get beat every year in the champions league.

Psg are Arsenal but they win some paltry league

11.) 09 Oct 2016 15:31:10
I don't think Couts is world class yet. But to say he is a not a great player is ridiculous. He is subject of interest from Barcelona, Bayern and PSG. That is the biggest team from Spain, Germany and France. He is Juventus and Man City away from having the top teams in Europes top 5 leagues hunting him!

12.) 09 Oct 2016 21:28:29
Thanks for the info Ed's 002.
Think he'll stay till end of the season then weigh up his options, champions league, EPL champions ect.

13.) 11 Oct 2016 02:08:59
Id be gutted to see him leave, I'm a big fan. we should be competing with these clubs at European level, not worrying about supplying them with our best players. if we Av a good finish this year, I think it'll take a Barcelona or Bayern serious offer to tempt him.




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17 Feb 2017 19:04:29
Let me get this started. Opinions on what we need to improve our squad squad for next season?

In my humble opinion we have more than enough midfielders and our defence remains our biggest stumbling block. Attack we need some more pace.

Mine would be, another forward with loads of pace and Mane style instinct, one adept CB partner for Matip and two adept fullbacks who are able to provide proper width and contribute to our attack.

We do not need to overhaul the squad, we just need to add first team quality players and 4 new additions will be more than enough to take the competitiveness in our squad to the next level.


1.) 17 Feb 2017 19:09:09
You're already writing off TAA? He's going to be a great player for us.

2.) 17 Feb 2017 19:14:31
I wouldn't mind a new cm tbh, if that means replacing Can then so be it, Lucas will most likely be leaving and we're yet to see whether Stewart will step up. A solid engine midfielder similar to Kante/ Gueye would be perfect for Klopp's system, Franck Kessie maybe? Otherwise you're spot on.

3.) 17 Feb 2017 19:20:27
I think a reliable centre back to partner Matip is priority. Lovren can be excellent at times but he's a bit too inconsistent which let's him down unfortunately. Howedes maybe?
I agree that a pacey attacker (especially if couts leaves) is needed as without Mane we look a shadow of our usual selves. Julian Brandt here?
I think only one full back is needed and it is this lad on loan at Nice who can cover both full backs, Pereira. For the first season he can play right back and Milner can continue at left back (as that for me is his best position) and then the following season or the end of next season Trent AA should be ready to start in the first team.
I think a lot depends on formation really as if we play a 433 then that should be adequate but if we play a 4231 then another forward is needed so if sturridge as well as couts leaves goes then a striker is needed so perhaps this is Mariano.
I haven't really thought about this before so it's all off the top of my head so don't hammer my suggestions too much!

4.) 17 Feb 2017 19:27:02
No EpicPotato, I have not written off TAA. I am merely making a point that we need an upgrade on the likes of Clyne as well as move him on. TAA seems to be a youngster Klopp is willing to work with. The lad is only 18, still has plenty to learn and definitely will not be learning much from Clyne.

5.) 17 Feb 2017 19:28:23
We either start to trust Ojo or Ejaria a bit more or we get a LW. We're desperately short of a 20+ goal a season striker too. I still think Lovren and Matip could be our CB pairing. Karius is still good enough to be our no.1 GK. We have a lot of quality youth coming through. Stewart is good enough if we need a CDM. Ojo could be our LW. LB and striker are my main areas I feel we need to strengthen. Milner has done a fantastic job covering but when we break quickly it has to go down the right because Milner is too slow to partner Couts out there. There is Grujic too who is a deep play maker I believe who I almost forgot about. Hopefully he can have another good preseason.

6.) 17 Feb 2017 19:35:50
Why do you believe a player like Kante will be perfect for Klopp's system when he has hardly used a defensive midfielder since becoming Liverpool manager and has not shown any signs in the transfer market that he has been after a DM. Not saying Kante is a natural defensive midfielder but that is his current position at Chelsea.

Arsenal have conceded 2 goals less than us in the EPL this season with two holding midfielders. City conceded one less than us. Our midfield destroyed Spurs and they could not do the same to us. Have we been humiliated as badly as Arsenal this season who play with two holding mids when Klopp has had no intention of deploying a dedicated defensive midfielder?

In fact, were any of our defeats this season down to not having a dedicated defensive midfielder on the pitch?

7.) 17 Feb 2017 19:46:11
I 100% agree with the OP.

Mariano (St), Brandt (Lw), Pereira (Rb), Nacho (Cb) and Tymon (Lb) will do me!

No complete overhaul, just address key issues; pace up top, decent full backs, and a solid centre back.

I don't particularly want us to go and blow everyone out the water with a massive signing as I believe it would affect the harmony and togetherness we have got in the squad.

8.) 17 Feb 2017 19:58:35
Agree MK, however, if Mariano rejected a loan move to us in January then I doubt he will want to come permanently. We also do not know whether Madrid are actually willing to sell him. Also do not believe we need two forwards as that will just set back someone like Woodburn.

One new forward will be enough. Klopp has also pretty much shown that he does not need a striker to see plenty of goals. We are joint top scorers in the League this season without a regular striker as well us leading scorers in the League since Klopp arrived.

9.) 17 Feb 2017 20:18:46
Henderson has been our midfield anchorman this season and doubt that is going to change next season either, even if klopp decides to revert back to a midfield 2.

10.) 17 Feb 2017 20:26:25
An experienced keeper to push and work alongside Karius.
A centre back who is comfortable on the ball to play alongside Matip
A right back to replace Clyne and again push and work alongside TAA.
A young left back ( perhaps Juanma) to again be pushed and work alongside Milner.
An experienced physically strong CDM player ro work apongside Stewart and move Hendo forward.
A left sided forward player with pace and power to add balance.
I believe Firmino is our number 9 and will stay as our number 9. If Sturridge does move on then he may need to be replaced.
Overall we need to add a bit of experience, calm headed football players who can allow our flair players to do what they do best.

11.) 17 Feb 2017 20:53:06
I'm not saying Hendo should be replaced by any means but i don't think Can is good enough as things stand if we want to aim for winning the league, we then have: Wijnaldum, Hendo, Lallana, Stewart and Grujic (who most likely won't be ready next year either considering his lack of game time) .

One injury and suddenly our midfield looks very thin again, we should also have some form of European football next year and that is not enough strength in depth for a 3 man central midfield imo. Someone like Kessie would do much of the running required from our midfield and give us a variety of options, allowing the front 3 to play with more freedom (just like Chelsea)

12.) 17 Feb 2017 21:22:14
Kante is not a defensive midfielder. He covers so much ground and yes he would be perfect for our style. He wins the ball back so much all over the pitch allowing attacks to start higher up the pitch. Klopp's style!

13.) 17 Feb 2017 21:35:24
From what I have seen of Kante, he is very much like Wijnaldum. A box to box ball winner who can run with the ball when required.

If you look at his partners (Drinkwater and now Matic) they are always less mobile players with the better passing range. A similar set up to what we have with Gini and Hendo.

I honestly cannot believe how under rated Gini is on here. Were it not for Mane, I think he would've got serious recognition for his Spurs performance. I really rate him. He just buzzes around doing the ugly stuff very well and occasionally produces a cracking goal or a world class through ball. Excellent foil for Hendo.

14.) 17 Feb 2017 21:42:29
True Max, but I think Mariano is more of the luxury signing anyway. He would simply be to add to the strike force. I think Firmino will still start all the big games as the main striker because Klopp values his pressing so highly.

It could be any pacey striker really, just to replace Sturridge who is looking like leaving. Maybe todays Solanke rumours have legs? Who knows. Either way I I mainly hope we get a proper left winger and a proper left back. Drop Couts into the middle and get Milner back on the bench as a utility player! Our left side is by far our main weakness. Tymon and Brandt would give us great balance. Be nice to add Pereira for right back but to be honest, why not let Arnold play? Start him in there young. He is already good enough in my opinion.

15.) 17 Feb 2017 22:11:59
Loads of midfielders doesn't make a good balanced midfield. There is no genuine cover for Henderson or a holding mid. I would offload Can and buy one player in that position. We need one brilliant passing midfielder and that is not Stewart accrding to me.

A left back is a must and I would sacrifice Moreno for it.

I am not sure how could we bring in a new CB without offloading Lovren or Klavan ( I am convinced we aren't bringing anyone )

A left winger and a striker to replace Sturridge.

16.) 17 Feb 2017 22:01:22
All of this comes down to the amount wehave to spend.

I agree with most about positions needed bit we are not going to get them all in the summer.

It's got to be real quality added if we can't get the main target in a certain position then we leave it and try for a main target in another position.

For me a top CB, matip is injured fairly often and lovren needs leading.

Then a pacey winger to go with mane. When teams park the bus which we will see more often now atleast we have extra movement to break them.

Lastly a quality LB then the rest can wait until another window.

17.) 17 Feb 2017 22:09:22
Priority 1: A half decent goalkeeper who knows how to catch a ball.

18.) 17 Feb 2017 22:26:13
I would think a top class GK is kinda of a must if we can offload mignolet - Jordan Pickford anyone? Ben Gibson at boro looks like he could be a top class cb but I also think Gomez showed he might be able to cut it at the very highest level so would be just as happy to leave the cbs as is and maybe look at the very highest of calibre lb (who is there tho? Hardly lots of them about) .
We can't keep buying players for the academy or older talents like Gomez, Markovic, Grujic and Origi and not giving them time. Same could be said about Ward and Karius too to be fair although I think a mistake by a gk always leads to a goal so it's a difficult place to blood a youngster.

I would be happy to replace Mignolet, Moreno and Sturridge (only cos he just doesn't fit and would be the most saleable asset we have outside of first 11). Think wiji is getting better as season goes on so no need to replace and Mane should get competition from ojo, Wilson and Woodburn next year.

19.) 17 Feb 2017 22:26:03
Exactly WelshRed! We need a physical midfielder to help the energy of our midfield because to expect Wijnaldum, Hendo and Lallana to run a short marathon twice a week all season is ludicrous.

No one is underrating Wijnaldum, I think he's a serious asset to the team but we need some strength in depth which i don't believe Can, Grujic and Stewart are at this moment in time.

20.) 17 Feb 2017 23:21:24
Dont need another nunber 10 unless one leaves so no for brandt.

Lovren, matip, klavan and gomez are sound for cbs.

Cm and lb for me.

Id go for a better quality back up for hendo and gini and there are two starter.

I like the look of tysom.

Maybe more paxe somewhere in the frint. Mariano looks a good player, if we wanr him though we might have to acceot a buy back clause. But if they would give us 2 years or something before activating then might not be that bad.

21.) 17 Feb 2017 23:37:08
Lots of outs for me. with only a few ins. Mignolet, Bogdan, Moreno, Lovren, Sakho, Lucas, Emre, Brannagan, Markovic, Sturridge. i would bring in a CB, LB, CM and winger. something like Brandt, Dahoud, Tymon and i have no idea about a CB but ed002 seems to rate Süle pretty highly so maybe someone like him. then there's a decision to be made on Ward being seen as good enough to compete with Karius or if we need to let him go to develop and bring in an experienced keeper. Begovic or Schmeichel or someone like that.

22.) 18 Feb 2017 03:08:37
Karius will likely be number 1 next season, and I think it a priority to bring in a solid 2nd choice who can do a job when called upon, so I would let Mignolet go.

Klavan is an okay player, but we need an improvement there IMO and I would let Klavan go and bring in a CB to partner Matip with Lovren and Gomez as back-ups.

Moreno has really shown no improvements and I think it foolhardy to wait for him to reach a level he may never reach, so I would let him go and bring in a first choice LB. TAA will be the competition for Clyne and I see no reason to replace Clyne.

In midfield, we need to have better quality, and more competent squad players who can really push the starters. Emre Can, Lucas and Stewart I would let go, thus leaving Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Grujic and Ejaria. I think we need to bring in a defensive midfielder who can slot in when needed and push Henderson forward if required.

Sturridge will leave in the summer IMO, and Ings is coming back from multiple serious injuries. A striker is needed and again pace maybe something we can look in a potential new striker.

We have seen what pace can do to compliment our pressing style up top with Mane, so this is where the focus should be IMO. Brandt is a wide player, but not particularly quick, but he is a good dribbler and a clever player; I would bring him in as the wide player in addition to Coutinho, Mane, Woodburn and Ojo.

One thing I want to say is that there are one too many idealistic posts here calling for the likes of Mariano, Tymon as well as calling for the likes of Ojo and Ejaria to step and fill int he gaps left by senior players. It might be that they can fill those gaps, but recent history has shown as that waiting on young players to come good is a patient process for which we cannot afford. Give the young players the time to develop through cameos and in cups and with training with the first team, but if we bring in a GK, LB, CB, CM, LW and a ST, it needs to be players ready to step in and perform straight away or we will be here in 2 years time, saying the same thing again, as we have been for a very long time.

23.) 18 Feb 2017 07:54:33
I think we are in a position now where we have a good competitive squad with a great crop of young players busting to get into the team, problem now is, do we manage to keep coutinho firmino? There isn't many that I would change in our line up, think it's time to start buying one or 2 players with all we have available and get the best possible for the position that's willing and fits the mound. Starting with a left back! I have a feeling the club feel Gomes is good enough to become a long term feature at cb with matip 2 fast cb's with pretty much a perfect combo of skill sets. Big question I guess if studge goes do we sign a striker for our system and go 4-2-3-1 again but with new striker with cou-firm-mane and possible hendo wij behind where does that already leave lallana.

24.) 18 Feb 2017 10:17:40
I largely agree with the real AG

As per last summer I expect Klopp to keep the core of the squad together, sell mostly players we aren't using and then buy a few to improve depth. The squad has largely shown it can compete when everyones fit, and it's only when a few key players are injured we have been off the pace (most notably Mane, Hendo and Matip) and in two other notable positions that we've really struggled when everyone is fit (CB and GK) .

By core of the current squad I mean the following

Coutinho, Firmino, Mane
Gini, Hendo, Llalana
Milner, [Lovren], Matip, Clyne

In order of priority I would therefore focus on
1) Bring in a senior GK to compete with and eventually handover to Karius - Migs has had long enough to prove he's the long term solution and not convinced. Suggestion Handanovic
2) Bring in a top CB to compete with Lovren - with recent injury history I'd be tempted to keep both Lovren and Klavan but perhaps Klavan would have to go. Suggestion would be to bring in someone like Tah
3) We really need quality cover for Hendo, it's a crucial role in the team and we don't have anyone who can defend at the level required while still being able to dictate play from the back. Suggestion would be someone like Carvalho or Dahoud, and the space could be created through Lucas's departure (and perhaps Stewart sent on loan)
4) I think we definitely need a goal-scoring wide player to compete with and/ or cover Coutinho and Mane if they get injured. Suggestion seems to be Brandt and space could be created through the sale of Sturridge who is not proving a great fit for Klopp
5) Moreno hasn't worked, I think we should move for Pereira to cover LB and compete with Milner

Do we need another striker? I would argue not with Firmino, Origi, and Ings still to return. I can see the argument if a top player became available though, but would have to be someone at the highest level to justify.

That would leave our first team squad fairly unchanged which is good for consistency

Coutinho, Firmino, Mane
Gini, Hendo, Llalana
Milner, Tah, Matip, Clyne

And subs team as

Forwards : Brandt, Origi, Ings, Ojo, Wilson
Midfield : Dahoud, Can, Grujic, Woodburn, Ejaria
Defenders : Pereira, Lovren, Gomez, TAA, Juanma, [Klavan]
GK's : Karius

That gives a good balance of a strong first team + some real challengers for a starting spot (Ings, Brandt, Dahoud, Lovren, Pereira, Karius) and developing talent (Origi, Ojo, Woodburn, Can, Grujic, Gomez, TAA etc. )

25.) 18 Feb 2017 12:04:23
Ultimately our transfer plans depend on how klopp see's the team developing, what formation he wants to play and what players at the club he likes. Something which i am starting to lose faith in him with given players like klavan, lovren, karius and mignolet have let us down so badly.

If i was Klopp, i'd be looking at it like this:

Goalkeeper - Mignolet has to go otherwise i will never expect liverpool to win anything. We need a mature, first team goalkeeper to play most of the games while karius develops and plays in cup games and the such like, a similar arrangement Barcelona had with bravo and ter stegen. I think handanovic in terms of ability would be a great choice but ideally an english speaking player would be best, as i'm sick of seeing a lack of communication at the back, so i'd probably go for Begovic.

Left Back - Again this is dependent on how klopp see's milner and juanma. Moreno, again, has to go, the guy isn't good enough. If klopp see's milner as the long term choice, we should buy a young left back, like chilwell, who is good enough, or give juanma a chance. I don't know whether signings will happen in this area but the current set up with moreno as backup has to change.

Centr back - Need i say more? Lovren, klavan, sakho, all should be sold. Like mignolet and moreno, they constantly look like rabbits in headlights while playing, except for sakho who i do believe had the right mentality for this club, but then pissed it away with his behaviour. 2 quality centre backs WHO FIT IN are needed. there's no point buying one if they have a lack of a winners personality and can't communicate with their peers. Ihave no answers for this one at all, i would personally have signed fonte. Klopp will have to pull one out of the hat for this one in the summer, i think the personality of the players is key here.

Midfield - Honestly, i like stewart. He should get more games. What we have to decide is whether their are two many workers in our midfield, which i think there are. None of them are players i would want to sell but if klopp wants to buy a more creative player in the modric mould, then maybe one should leave. Personally i would just move coutinho back here to play alongside henderson and lallana, allow stewart to cover for henderson. Wijnaldum, grujic, can and stewart can play of as and when they're needed. Also i have faith in brannagan to be good enough.

Left Wing - Assuming we move coutinho back into midfield, we need another winger. I know nothing about julian brandt but in all honesty, please, no more young ones unless they are fully developed, we might as well be using ojo and wilson here anyway. However seeing as though klopps system relies heavily on wingers and we currently have one first team winger in mane, i genuinly think we need top quality here. A player who isn't a complete melt and won't bottle it when the chips are down, who has confidence in their ability and has won stuff. Aubameyang? We can dream but i think we need someone of mane's quality on the other side of the pitch.

Striker- the biggest conundrum we face. All the strikers we have have thinks going both for and against them. A fit sturridge is the ideal liverpool centre forward for me, but will he be the same player again? Nobody knows, can we afford to wait? Firmino is not a player i rate as highly as everyone else, for me he just isn't clinical, creative or skillful enough despite having a good touch and good movement, he does not apply his ability well enough. Origi has been tragic at times this season but we've seen what he can do, he has serious potential. And danny ings is a player who should fit in perfectly but honestly, we don't even know if he will play again, but we can't just ditch him? Honestly i feel like something has to drastically change but this one is more up to klopp than us. He has more faith and time for firmino than i do. But something has to change in our striker mix for us to be successful.

26.) 18 Feb 2017 10:58:02
Pickford is NOT a top class GK. That is just fantasy. N BTW, all the top GK's are all taken so where are we going to get one, exactly? And NO, Joe Hart is not top class.

27.) 18 Feb 2017 11:11:49
See many going on about Kessie, who I have never seen kick a ball, is only 20 and will most likely need time to adjust coming from the much less physical Serie A and deal with the pace of the EPL so anyone who believes he will just come in and hit the ground running need to have a reality check.

Again, who is to say that this is the kind of player Klopp is interested in? We have Lucas and Stewart who are both defensive minded midfielders but have featured very little in midfield this season. We are better off developing Stewart instead of blowing half of the transfer budget on some player who will get as much playing time as Stewart has this season.

I reckon many are going to be disappointed when the summer window has come and gone and the defensive midfielder majority of fans crave will not arrive. It is quite clear so far since Klopp arrived at Liverpool that he has very little interest in integrating a specialist defensive midfielder into his setup.

28.) 18 Feb 2017 11:46:12
For me a solid busy CM/ DM. our defence gets no protection and therefore are too exposed. this then adds pressure to the GK.

we also need a recognised striker Firminio is not a striker! sturridge is too lazy and very hot and cold.

we just need tweaking.

29.) 18 Feb 2017 11:56:15
We just need a hardworking centre forward who can finish like Aumbamenyang or Lewandowski. Simple. I really think Danny Ings fit the mould but I would buy a back up in Shane Long or even Insignia.

30.) 18 Feb 2017 12:28:43
Woolback, actually, Klopp's system does not rely heavily on wingers. Our wide forwards cut in anyway.

Klopp's system requires his fullbacks to provide the width. Something Clyne has proven not to be very good at. Milner on the other hand has done pretty well getting forward but problem is that he is on his wrong foot.

Begovic will be a pretty decent signing but this ship has sailed. We could have gone for him when he was still at Stoke. There us absolutely no chance Chelsea will be selling Begovic to Liverpool unless we offer double to triple what other clubs are willing to pay so signing him now will make absolutely no sense.

Regarding strikers, I will make the point again. We are not struggling to score goals without a proper striker. Firmino's movement alone, always finding himself in the right place, starting attacks from deep, his game intelligence and his incredible work rate are the reasons why Firmino will always be the first name on the team sheet.

31.) 18 Feb 2017 13:37:56
Look at it this way. Do you want any of gini, hendo, lallana, mane, coutinho or firmino dropped or sold?

No for me. So we can't be spending 30 mil on a back up gor them. Have to use the youth.

Defence. Lovren and matip where sound at the start of the season and for the majority until injuries and afcon.

Need a lb and another cm for cover as can, lucas and grujic are not adaquate enough.

32.) 18 Feb 2017 13:42:43
Anyone rate Butland as a keeper?

33.) 18 Feb 2017 13:56:01
Ron, how much are you willing to pay for Butland and remember one thing, the most important thing about our GK situation. Many of the teams below us will laugh at Mignolet's wages and the teams ahead of us will not be even have a sniff.

I doubt there are many clubs interested in Mignolet so if there is not going to be much interest in Mignolet then he will be at Liverpool next season. If Liverpool want to get rid of Mignolet then he will hold all the cards and the club which signs him will take us to the cleaners.

I honestly believe there will be no GK's arriving in the summer unless Mignolet takes it upon himself to find a new club. Good luck to Liverpool.

34.) 18 Feb 2017 14:54:02
We need a left back to replace Moreno.

We need another fast wide player to compliment Mane and not jeaporadose us when he can't play and we have European football next year and more games. (Think how many wingers Arsenal and Chelsea have! )

We need a holding midfielder to play with Henderson to replace Lucas and Can.

That'll do me for now. Too many changes is just a backward step.

35.) 18 Feb 2017 15:09:35
Need a holding midfielder to play with Henderson. Ha ha, getting more and more ridiculous when it is not a secret how Klopp wants his team to play :-O.

36.) 18 Feb 2017 15:58:38
Max, I think GK is the one position that we can dramatically improve on and it will impact on results immediately.
I'd be willing to pay £20-30m for the right keeper, not sure if that's Butland or not.

It is my belief we have the worst GK situation in the top 6.
Ed002 has implied that Migs will not be happy playing second fiddle so may look for another club. I'm aware we'd take a financial hit but then they shouldn't have been so stupid as to give Migs a 5yr contract.

37.) 18 Feb 2017 16:21:48
Makes no difference Ron irrespective of who made the decision to give Mignolet a fancy new contract. Liverpool are not in the best situation trying to get rid of Mignolet. If Mignolet does not go then a new GK will not arrive. It is as simple as that whether you want to believe it or not so there is virtually no point in arguing whether we need a new GK if Mignolet does not go.

38.) 18 Feb 2017 16:45:33
Ron, that keeper is Karius.

Klopps choice. Got to accept it mate.

39.) 18 Feb 2017 17:25:03
He's not ready Puzzled.

40.) 18 Feb 2017 17:34:45
Well Ron, the only way Karius will become ready is to give him a chance. Karius is not going to do any wore than Mignolet.

Suck it up.

41.) 18 Feb 2017 18:56:13
Ron, and you know he's not ready how? After ten games? If that was the standard then Migs should have been dumped 3 years ago or DeGea would be at Getafe right now as he was that bad after ten games. Come on, man. You're better than that. BTW, with all the 30m GK's taken and us not having a chance at any of them, who should we get? I suggest you get with the programme. Karius will be no 1 next season as was this season before he broke his hand. That's Klopp's choice and that's that.

42.) 18 Feb 2017 19:57:05
We are not buying a first choice keeper nor a £30 mill CB. People need to take those from their bucket list. Klopp prefers Karius as number 1. Let it go that way while he also is in love with Lovren.
I however expect a LB and then attacking players.

43.) 18 Feb 2017 21:19:16
The OP - "opinions on what we need"

My opinion is we need a half decent GK who can catch a ball.
Karius can't/ won't catch, he prefers to flap at a ball.
Until he changes he will never be a decent premier league GK.
It's not the most outrageous suggestion so I don't understand the outrage and scitty comments about "being better than that".
Anyone who has watched us defend crosses can see the fear and bewilderment in our GK's eyes - Migs or Karius.
Klopp gave Migs a 5yr contract and said he's the most intelligent keeper he's worked with. I don't trust Klopp's judgement with keepers.

44.) 18 Feb 2017 22:34:33
Are you doubting Klopp Mr. Believer 😎. Oh My!

45.) 19 Feb 2017 08:49:27
Being a believer is about believing in the team, that's clear from everything Klopp says.
Based on evidence his judgement of goalkeepers is flawed
Last season:
- 5yr contract for Migs
- Migs is the most intelligent keeper I've worked with
- we have lots of quality goalkeepers
This season:
- picking Karius when he wasn't ready then dropping him after the media criticised him.
- chopping and changing between Migs and Karius for the rest of the season.

Anyway that's the end of this thread for me, I feel very strongly about this topic but I don't like monopolising a thread as I know it irritates the eds too. So I'm bowing out of this one.



16 Feb 2017 20:26:39
I reckon TAA and Woodburn are going to get a healthy shot of football next season. They are two of our most promising academy youngsters so far this season and working their socks off. Next season, should we qualify for CL will give them the perfect opportunity to break into the first team squad on a permanent basis.


1.) 16 Feb 2017 20:55:36
Even play them in the Europe leauge and Harry Wilson.

2.) 16 Feb 2017 22:47:22
I've seen nothing from Clyne that tells me why he starts over TAA now - TAA fits our system much better.

3.) 16 Feb 2017 23:39:20
Europa league? We won't be in that next season.

4.) 17 Feb 2017 00:21:18
Would love to see TAA get a little run in the team but not replace clyne just yet, break him in gently.

5.) 17 Feb 2017 03:27:56
The next time we play against a Europa League team will be in the Super Cup in 2018.

6.) 17 Feb 2017 19:00:30
Try champions league!



12 Feb 2017 05:31:31
What a performance last night. excellent movement and quick no nonsense passing is what made us the better team and we completely showed Spurs how football should be played. Every player earned their wages last night.

Nothing changed last night in Klopp's approach except for one thing. Anyone notice how just about each time Lucas got the ball he cleared it from danger and that we did not concentrate on playing the ball out from the back?

Many of the opposition do the very same thing to us, clear the ball from danger. It is time we start doing the same thing. That way we will catch teams who park the bus on the back foot too as playing the ball out from the back does give time for the opposition to organise themselves. The plan was basically, clear the ball, opposition on back foot, press the opposition and with our movement and quick passing it gave them no time to recover. Surely this will change games for us when it comes to teams who park the bus.

Our midfield was excellent last night and our attack simply irresistible.



1.) 12 Feb 2017 08:36:05
Yeah i was onto thay aswel. Lucas waa just told row z simple. Was nice to see actually.

2.) 12 Feb 2017 12:57:36
I saw that as well and notice that in the second half, we did that the whole time. It was a way to protect the back four and allow us to press them up the pitch as they played out of the back, something they stupidly kept doing as they could not play out of the press. Did you also see that we reverted to the dark arts as in time wasting, breaking up play, taking time in taking free kicks and throw-ins? That is the way we wore them down and frustrated them into making stupid fowls and getting bookings. That is what Mou and others have been doing to us so I'm happy we are now doing it to other teams. This is the way we should be playing now especially on the road. We get an early goal and then, we slow the game down and let the opposition open up and then, you press them, leading to other opportunities to score. We have to start playing smart, not hard.

3.) 12 Feb 2017 16:46:39
Noah, I would call that being streetwise, we haven't been that for a long time, we have been much too nice, time to get ugly and win more games .



05 Feb 2017 07:51:04
I have calmed myself down since the result yesterday.

All I can say is that I would not be happy if Mignolet starts vs Spurs. Now time for Klopp to drop him from the team and bring back Karius. IMO he made a massive mistake to bring back Mignolet.

The only way we are going to turn this around is for the players to get back to the energy they showed which got us into the top 4.

Do not hold much hope for Swansea so we are most likely to lose our place in top 4 today .

On to Spurs, they are in top form and we will need to be 100 times better than what we showed vs Hull to beat them. Time for the players, Klopp and everyone else involved to rise to the occasion.


1.) 05 Feb 2017 09:50:08
Perhaps we could play rush goalie.
I mean, defence doesn't really matter, does it? We play with two midfielders in the back four anyway.
And push our midfielders up top, so not only can we not stop conceding we can't score either.
It makes for lots of unthreatening possession football though.
Great! Haha.



04 Feb 2017 13:44:50
Holy damn, Hazard surely just scored goal of the season.


1.) 04 Feb 2017 19:29:27
Well, it would have helped if Koscielny had not turned his back and back-pedalled all the way into his own goal thereby, escorting Hazard into a position to score.




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25 Feb 2017 10:47:20
Mahrez is going to cost too much and will demand first team football. Adding to that, he has been very poor this and has only had one good season in his entire career.

He is talented but I doubt Mahrez has the drive to make it at a much bigger club. One season wonder.




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16 Feb 2017 18:37:08
Exactly Robin Hood, we already have Henderson, Stewart, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Can and Grujic. 6 players to occupy 3 spots. If Klopp ever had to revert back to a midfield 2 then we would be overloaded. Lucas is leaving so it is possible that another CM will be signed to take his place in the squad but doubt it is going to be the DM which most fans are craving.




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15 Feb 2017 18:06:39
Thanks Ed002.




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08 Feb 2017 19:10:07
Ron, it is quite funny. Was De Gea ready for the Premier League when UTD signed him? Claudio Bravo, a very experienced keeper has looked as lost as Mignolet.

Karius has had a hand full of games and you expect him to be on the level of Cech or Courtois?




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08 Feb 2017 18:32:07
redforever, it does not matter whether we got a good price for Suarez. We did not get full payment for Suarez the day he was sold to Barcelona. The deal was structured where Barcelona pay x amount each season of the fee that was agreed on. So whoever thought Liverpool was instantly 'richer' with the money which was paid back in portions from Barcelona need to go back to school to learn 1 + 1 = 2 because they have absolutely no idea how transfer are conducted. I am not saying I am a genius when it comes such things but at least I have done some research to understand the dynamics of how transfers laid out.

Ed002 did confirm that Klopp tried to bring in Mariano from Madrid on loan in January but the player rejected us and there would have been money made available for Klopp but Klopp made it loud and clear that he was not going to sing players fit for the bench and the players he was after, their clubs did not want to sell.

So seeing you can say 'why didn't Klopp see that one coming' then go ahead and give readers your expert view on player recruitment and name the player Klopp should have replaced Mane with for 4 weeks. Your expert view should include replacing Mane with a player on the same level as Mane or better otherwise you will be wasting your time. Looking forward to hearing from you.





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26 Feb 2017 10:21:50
"This kind of full-back now is more like a midfield player, " Klopp said on Monday Night Football.

"They play in half-spaces, they play really high. They are wingers sometimes, sometimes centre midfielders. The rule is: be an option in terms of getting a pass or be protection.

"If you are an option you can be high or you can be in the half space.

"Full-back is a wonderful position because you are always involved. I remember speaking to Milly the first time about possibly playing left-back and said: 'what do you think? '

"He said: ‘but I won’t get the ball'. I said: ‘forget this, you will get the ball much more often than you can imagine’.

There we go, the fullbacks are the 'wingers' in Klopp's system.

Klopp does not need out and out wingers as he does not ask his wide forwards to hug the touchline. He may need another forward with pace to strengthen the wide position but not an out and out winger. Klopp's front three interchange throughout the match and do not find themselves in the same position as the formation Klopp sets out. For instance, Firmino plays centrally in the front 3 yet you will see him drifting out wide more than often during a match as per Klopp's instruction. Coutinho will cut in from the left and end up centrally as well as Mane as per Klopp's instruction. Firmino drops deep to start attacks and Mane then becomes our central attacking forward etc. You do not see Mane or Coutinho hugging the touchline?




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26 Feb 2017 09:06:09
Mathematics, again, it is what Klopp decides, not the fans. Our attacking wide players do not hug the touchline anyway, they cut in. Fullbacks have to provide the width so I do not believe it is a situation of adding a winger, it is more a case of adding another player with Mane's ability when it comes to pace, trickery and adept with both feet.

Mathematics, can you explain to me what Klopp needs to do regarding Grujic's work permit requirements and then if Coutinho had to move into the midfield 3 then who out of Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Grujic, Henderson and Stewart will be afforded none or very little playing time. Remember, you can only pick two midfielders to play alongside Coutinho meaning 4 are going to take the back seat. Also take into account, that if Klopp brings in a new LB then what does Klopp do with Milner who will be a utility player at left back and midfield. If Klopp adds a new CM to the squad in the summer then it makes the idea of Coutinho in midfield even more unlikely. Just imagine if Klopp reverts to a midfield 2.

I understand you want Coutinho to play in midfield but as the scenario stands with our current squad options in midfield and pending a new CM being added in the summer it is unlikely that Coutinho will end up in midfield.




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25 Feb 2017 17:15:21
Added to that MK, Klopp requires his fullbacks to deliver width. Milner has been a smart move by Klopp at LB but not a long term solution. Clyne just does not cut it. He should not be classified as an attacking fullback.

If anything, Klopp will sign one or maybe two new attacking fullbacks who can provide width. His system is reliant on attacking fullbacks to create width.




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25 Feb 2017 16:53:07
There cannot be an argument about Grujic MK as if he does not meet the requirements of his work permit then the player as well as Liverpool are buggered.

And funny you mention Coutino's 'proper' position. How many times has Coutinho featured in our midfield 3 this season?

Klopp will decide where players feature and if Coutinho had to drop into midfield then there is absolutely no chance another CM would arrive even when Lucas leaves.

I am going based on what I have seen Klopp do this season with the squad. Firmino, Coutinho and mane is Klopp's preferred front three irrespective of what matches we have scored in and how many.

Brandt is not at the level to replace Coutinho out wide so if we are going to sign a player to fill the left wide position in order for Coutinho to drop into midfield then that player has to be better than Coutinho as we will be replacing him in his position.

It is all fair and well coming up with solutions but at the end of the day, Klopp decides what happens. So how much are we going to need to spend on a player on the same level as Coutinho to fill the left wide position? And to expect a player like Brandt to fill Coutinho's role quite honestly is premature.

We are stocked in midfield and do not see Klopp moving Coutinho into midfield next season.




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25 Feb 2017 14:10:21
So Coutinho goes into midfield and which of our current midfielders take the back seat knowing we still have Grujic who needs to be given playing time with his work permit requirements.

Klopp might go for Brandt but if it is on the expectations of fans wanting him to start scoring and creating assists straight away then he is destined to fail. Klopp is not going to go big on our attack unless Coutingi and or Firmino had to leave. If nobody can see that then get ready to be disappointed in the summer.