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07 Jul 2017 22:45:23
It is quite clear that only an obscene amount will bring Keita to Liverpool.

Unless Keita decides to 'piss' on his current club then nothing is going to happen.

maxlfc

1.) 08 Jul 2017 02:25:36
Or He could just put in for a transfer and say he'd be unhappy to stay.


2.) 08 Jul 2017 07:18:07
Ralf Ragnick (RBL's Sporting Direct) has said that not even a 100m bid will make them sell Keita. I don't know what other hint that LFC and some on here need. Move on, pls.


3.) 08 Jul 2017 07:22:35
Yes but the CEO has said that he would not stand in Keitas way if he wanted to leave. This happens every transfer window, it's part of the song and dance. If people want to have faith that he's coming (I'm one of them) then fair play. If he doesn't come he doesn't come but I'm not getting in a negative mind state about it yet. I believe he will come.


4.) 08 Jul 2017 08:36:03
It was the same with Mane to Southampton. They also had a not for sale stance but in the end it was Mane who pulled the plug and forced the move.

Leipzig do not need money, they want to keep Keita because he is a vital player for them. The problem for Keita is that if he burns bridges with Leipzig and Liverpool fail to meet the asking price then Keita ends up losing and Liverpool face another tapping up situation.

Very dangerous game to play for both Keita and Liverpool. This is all going to come down to Keita forcing his way out.


5.) 08 Jul 2017 08:46:58
He is not coming chaps and sounds like if we continue to push then we msy be reported to FIFA on the grounds of more tapping up. I can not beleive our club are still monitoring or what ever it is we are doing, certainly no bid has gone in. Wasting time that could be used chasing other CM's, CB's and LB's.


6.) 08 Jul 2017 08:50:29
I can not believe how bad we are in the transfer market. Between the apology and getting highly inflated prices we are crippled. I know klopp says to be patient but I would of liked players a part of preseason so they better get a move on. We need 3 more players. A good left back. A centre back and a top striker.

We also need to shift sakho, Moreno karius.

It's ok for klopp to say this but he has always been an advocate of early business and getting players settled in preseason so I can not help but feel our current team could be it going into the season.


7.) 08 Jul 2017 09:17:12
Liverpool have mucked it up again with Keita just like they did with VVD.

It has been made known that Keita wants to join Liverpool without Liverpool approaching Leipzig. End game for Liverpool = tapping up.

It will be best for Liverpool to move on from Keita. Obviously the club ain't learning and play with fire, you will get burned.

Why are FSG not putting an end to this matter? They need to show authority as the circus will be on display again at Anfield if this continues. Clear lack of leadership at the club!

It is too late for Liverpool to approach Leipzig now. They should have done it from the start instead of warming up to the player i. e. the same situation as VVD. FIFA will have a field day.


8.) 08 Jul 2017 09:27:29
Stop getting carried away with the tapping up stuff.
Mistakes have been made but the Keita deal is a typical transfer with us wanting the player and willing to pay what is required to secure his services. PSG want Coutinhio doesn't mean they tapping him up by declaring an interest and every player has a price tag these days it's how football is.

Mistakes were made with VVD but if he submits a transfer request then he will leave Southampton.

Everton didn't want to sell lukaku but Chelsea and united both went in with large offers, both bid the same fee but united played the smart move by tipping the agent more.

Keita wants the move so it will happen, no doubt about it.


9.) 08 Jul 2017 09:45:02
Redx what are you talking about? you make me want to bang my head against a wall.

You call this a mistake? no mate a mistake is when you step on somebodys toe, fart when somebodys eating, accidentally pop a kids balloon or send a text to the second misses when it was meant to be the other, not when you tap up a player, how is that a mistake? The club knew exactly what they were doing it's no mistake it's plain and simple stupid! No wonder we're getting carried away with it. Some of us care about the image of Liverpool.

I can't get my head about how some people can defend these actions, it NEVER happened before so why is it ok to do such things now? it's made us look disgraceful. What winds me up either more is comments like ' every club does it' no they dont! - there's a reason why we are the only ones in the news for it.


10.) 08 Jul 2017 09:48:17
Redx, it is laughable that you bring the Lukaku situation into this. Both Chelsea and UTD have made offers for Lukaku. That is the difference. There have been no stories flying about of Lukaku making it known that he wants to join UTD.

Liverpool have not even approached Leipzig yet Keita has spoken to his club about wanting to move to Liverpool.

You clearly do not understand the severity of the situation.


11.) 08 Jul 2017 10:05:22
Stop the daily obsession with Keita it's getting boring!


12.) 08 Jul 2017 10:30:38
I have never seen such an obsession on these pages over such a run of the mill player.

People talk about him like he is a seasoned veteran with 3 CL titles or something. There is absolutely no perspective here. The hype band wagon is fully loaded up with people convinced he is world class.

Maybe he is, or will be. However you only have to look at Leicester for plenty of examples as to why you don't pay big bucks for players after one good season in a mid table team. Chelsea took a £30m risk on Kante which paid off. Yet look at the likes of Kasper, Huth, Morgan, Drinkwater, Mahrez, King, Vardy etc. They were all lauded as top class players. Mahrez was apparently world class and there were talks of £80m bids from Barcelona! The same is currently happening with every Leipzig player. In reality, maybe one or two of their players are actually the meat, and the rest are just bone.

Keita may be the Kante of the team, who knows. But if even Kante was only valued at £30m after a stunning season in the Premier League in which he actually won the title, how is Keita worth double or as some reports suggest, triple that figure after a single season in which he failed to push his team on to the title?

It is clear Keita is a good player. Nobody can say how good though. It is purely speculation, prediction and assumption. He could be a Kante, or he could be a Drinkwater. If the figure was £30m I'd say take the punt. But £70-100m? And some people are trying to justify it? I'm still not buying it.

Then we have the cheek to laugh at United paying mega bucks for Pogba and Lukaku! Oh the irony.

Move on people. There are 1,000s of midfielders in Europe and I'm sure Keita is not the best option. Certainly not at the £100m RBLs chairman just suggested!


13.) 08 Jul 2017 11:41:18
Keita will sign.

Poker need to stop banging on about tapping up. It's is rife in football and other team sports. Part of business I'm afraid. Business isn't all sunshine and rainbows and if you think that it is then the world must be a very rosey place for you to live with your unicorn and pixies.

Even 'legitimate' deals have add ons, agent incentives and gifts. united and Chelsea bid the same figure for lukaku except the agent got a lot more from the united offer. so that's where his client is heading.

We have yet to be punished for any transfer outside our youth system and if it does come it shall be probably as severe as Ashley cole disgrace for Chelsea.

But until then pipe down about it all cos we will be signing Keita. possibly as early as next week. Let's support the lad and the team.

I agree with you MK about the price but this summer most transfers for teams in champions league will be inflated.

{Ed025's Note - tapping up is not "part of business" redx, its cheating and bribery and very wrong so dont try to condone it mate..


14.) 08 Jul 2017 11:50:10
Not condoning it but I'm not naive enough to think it's isolated to lfc.

{Ed002's Note - You are right - it is everybody else's fault. Pitiful.}


15.) 08 Jul 2017 11:59:55
Sorry ed are you saying that only LFC have ever done this or been accused? Liverpool have received no punishment besides the youth. Only prem team I can think of actually being severely punished for it is Chelsea.

Mark my words Keita will sign and no tapping up allegations will be made either so chill out. Boom.

{Ed025's Note - all im saying mate is that you dont want the name of LFC to be tainted any more than it is now and saying that other clubs act in this despicable way does not make it right..


16.) 08 Jul 2017 12:02:22
If it continues we deserve a ban. Maybe getting away with it so frequently hasn't taught us anything?


17.) 08 Jul 2017 12:09:10
Ed025 I agree with you 100% mate but RB have not and will not be making a complaint about Keita pal.

{Ed025's Note - maybe not redx, maybe more luck than judgement but i do agree with you that it should be dropped now as its getting repetitive..i would sooner concentrate on the players your not signing mate.. :)


18.) 08 Jul 2017 12:15:36
Hahah I agree Ed025, we can talk about left backs now!

{Ed002's Note - You need to understand that within European football Liverpool's behavior is worse than any other club. You clearly don't know anything of the Chelsea situation otherwise you would not have made such a stupid remark. You also seem to ignore the fact that a very significant fine was handed out to Everton for tapping up, and indeed that Liverpool are already serving one ban at the moment and have a pending court case that could have further repercussions. The last season the Liverpool were in Europe they faced more charges with UEFA than any other side. On two occasions the owners and the board have had to issue humiliating apologies to try and avoid charges - and one of those has not been withdrawn. Klopp deliberately unsettled players by taking several journalists aside and briefing them in order to deliberately unsettle the four targets he was sure he could sign this summer. Klopp made illegal and direct approaches to three of those players - that is tapping up. The club is not one of the "elite" European sides that meet a couple of times a year and plan the future - they are excluded from that. Certain clubs will not do business with Liverpool because of the way they behave. Liverpool need to sort their act out or they need to accept there are potentially very serious consequences. Right now they are bottom of the pile in European football.}


19.) 08 Jul 2017 12:15:36
Hahah I agree Ed025, we can talk about left backs now!

{Ed025's Note - yeah mate, robertson could be your marquee signing..i hope.. :)


20.) 08 Jul 2017 13:04:49
Hahah ed025 he will arrive I think as cover but who knows he may be the man for the job.


21.) 08 Jul 2017 13:58:37
I just don't know anymore, fans or so called fans are delusional.


22.) 08 Jul 2017 14:01:12
Hi Eds
Why is this kind of under the radar? I know it's done to death on here, but media wise you don't really see anything about tapping up. Obviously the VVD was well reported, but this has been going on for at lot longer. Just interested.

{Ed025's Note - because contrary to what people think on here its not that common mate, tapping up is quite serious and if the press get wind of it they are all over it like a bun on a boloni sandwitch, but most clubs play by the rules as far as im aware janmo..


23.) 08 Jul 2017 14:17:26
Thanks for the swift response. I find it really frustrating that all the hard work we have put in getting back into the champions league, and we could go in under cooked. If you want a player just put a decent bid in. Thanks great site.

{Ed025's Note - no worries mate..


24.) 08 Jul 2017 14:39:36
Teabag why is it delusional to think Keita will be a Liverpool player?

Enough people want to bad mouth Liverpool transfer activity on here yet RB have not and will not be making a complaint and Keita will sign for us.

all parties will be happy with the outcome.

{Ed002's Note - How do you know that they will not make a complaint. They don't wish to sell a player who Liverpool have illegally approached and tapped up. You are an idiot.}


25.) 08 Jul 2017 15:39:54
This is the longest repeat active thread I have seen on here for a while xD

I don’t see why we need to 'tap-up' players. But if we are that desperate and stupid why don’t we do it the smart way like Barca?
By this I mean Neymar has tried to convince Coutinho to join them and spoke to the press about him a lot.
We should get a player to do it then the club can be like "well he really likes him, not our fault" xD.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have already used a player to tap up others on behalf of the club - and not even players he knew. So that is worse.}


26.) 08 Jul 2017 20:21:29
Would be good but costs way too much.


27.) 08 Jul 2017 23:09:28
Every club that Mourinho managed tried to sign Gerrard.

On international duty Lampard and Terry were full time in his ear.

Fergie tried twice to sign him; same crack as above with Scholes and Neville in his ear.

Yap Stam told everyone in his book that Fergie had illegally approached him.
Thats why Fergie offloaded him.

The list could go on and on and not just transfers.

The russians doping scandle.

Look at Platini, Beckenbaur, Quatar The scams at Rangers involving players trusts.

The chairnan at Marseilles i think was jailed .

Even Ed mentioned about a champs league match that was suspicious.

I'd say there are many more as well but football is now big business and companies and clubs will try and do what they can to gain an advantage.

They all are guided by the 11th commandment.


28.) 09 Jul 2017 16:24:11
Thanks for the reply ed002 I didn’t even realize that xD
Seriously how stupid are we? If you are going to tap players up with other players, DO IT RIGHT (or just not at all) ridiculous how stupid we are with transfers

I get that the whole of football is corrupt but most teams/ managers/ players stop and stay low once in the limelight, yet we just carry on doing it like nothing bad will happen -. -.


29.) 10 Jul 2017 11:25:28
I might be miss remembering this but didn't the FA .................

{Ed002's Note - IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FA. MOVE ON.}


 

 

24 Jun 2017 10:42:38
Ed002, any interest from Liverpool for Gaetan Laborde?

maxlfc

{Ed002's Note - I don't know of Liverpool interest in Gaetan Laborde. He is seen as a very average striker in France and there is a different Bordeaux player that Liverool has been keen on. Laborde is far from a regular goalscorer.}


1.) 24 Jun 2017 11:02:18
Is that Malcolm? Do we look like making an offer?

{Ed002's Note - Malcom - there has been a lot of interest from Liverpool.}


2.) 24 Jun 2017 11:03:13
Malcolm I assume Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Malcom.}


3.) 24 Jun 2017 11:04:19
Thanks Ed002.


4.) 24 Jun 2017 11:11:59
"Course you can Malcom! "
See how many oldies remember that line.

{Ed001's Note - I am obviously too young.....}


5.) 24 Jun 2017 12:18:58
Sadly I do . Vicks sinex.


6.) 24 Jun 2017 12:39:28
My dad still says it now! Im sure he would have preferred me to be called Malcolm.


7.) 24 Jun 2017 13:10:44
I don't know much about Malcom, but was he another alternative to the left winger? If so, the interest in this window must surely be gone now with the deal for Salah, am i right?

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't think that Klopp would keep looking for more players in that position but given he will be playing at least one out of position then maybe. Or maybe he is interested in a striker who struggles for goals?}


8.) 24 Jun 2017 13:13:01
And me too.


9.) 24 Jun 2017 13:40:03
Malcom as left back. LOL.


10.) 24 Jun 2017 19:45:24
Gaetan Laborde? Sounds like the name of a drag act!
I still believe that Bobby Firmino will remain as our preferred striking option, with Sturridge and Solanke as back up/ cup players. I don't think Klopp really needs much more up front, he just needs to sort out the defence.


 

 

07 Jun 2017 17:38:08
Ed002, know of anything about the rumour of Sturridge being offered to Newcastle?

maxlfc

{Ed002's Note - I don't but Newcastle have already reached agreement to take a striker on loan.}


1.) 07 Jun 2017 17:52:38
Th Young st from Chelsea I'm I right.

{Ed002's Note - Abraham.}


 

 

05 Jun 2017 18:09:57
This could be the season where Liverpool smash the budget into pieces to once and for all get back to the top.

Scary stuff but if that is what the club is planning on doing then us fans will just go with the flow.

I just wonder who the club tends on seeing going as the figures we are about to spend will have to see more than one current players on their way. Let's hope it ain't Coutinho.

maxlfc

1.) 05 Jun 2017 18:40:22
I'm not concerned with the earlier fees at all as the game has somewhat changed, not just for us but the Premier League. The influx of TV money in the premier league, on top of the additional revenue we will provided by the Champions League (if we qualify) has me fairly chill about this issue. Don't think the club would also sign a CB and LW to cope with the departure of PC and we've been surprisingly quiet this summer with regards to 'Number 10' rumours.


2.) 05 Jun 2017 18:50:22
Likely to be: Sakho, Lucas, Stewart, Markovich, Moreno.

Personally also wouldn't be overly surprised by any one (s) of: Sturridge, Ojo, Ward, Ings, Klavan, Gomez, Milner, Coutinho (😩)


3.) 05 Jun 2017 19:09:23
Say with the likely there puzzled would raise £50 million to pay VVDs fee and the saving of wages. I'd like to see Ward, Gomez and Ings loaned out for fitness and experience. I'd like Sturridge and Couts stay. I do like Milner and he should stay as a good squad player but I think he will want 1st team action so may leave.


4.) 05 Jun 2017 19:10:46
I do not believe many understand how club finaces work. We earned massively the previous seasons from TV revenue and still Liverpool ended up making a significant loss in the last financials.

The new training facility will have to see Liverpool making up the numbers financially elsewhere. Increasing the wage bill considerably with the arrivals of VVD and Salah will punish the club.

You do understand that the wage bill makes up majority of Liverpool's spend each season? Therefore adding over £300k a week to our current wage bill 3rd highest in the League will have to see some of the current crop leave.

Transfer fees not the main issue as they get paid over a period, not in one go.

Lallana, Firmino, Mane and Gini can all play number ten. Even Salah.


5.) 05 Jun 2017 18:55:10
lucas
Gomez loan
Sakho
Origi maybe in January
Clyne
Wilson loan
Stewart
Markovic
Moreno

Should be around £100m. So if all goes to plan we might still get a left back and one other. Happy days.


6.) 05 Jun 2017 19:30:41
Mark, it does not matter what we will be selling players for. The transfer fees we receive will not be paid in one go to us. We are probably some way off before Bournemouth finish paying for Ibe. Just like Suarez was only paid up by Barcelona this past season.

Our wage bill though is something which sees the club accounts with an exit of funds every week. Add VVD and Salah to the current bill, you can be rest assured that there will have to be quite a few exits in the summer, especially if we are planning on adding more players.


 

 

04 Jun 2017 06:49:41
Never heard of the player but Liverpool are reportedly eyeing a move for Anderlecht's Polish striker Lukasz Teodorczyk.

maxlfc

1.) 04 Jun 2017 08:41:57
As you would say, the Eds have repeatedly stated that interest on Merseyside is from Everton ;)


 

 

 

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13 Oct 2017 20:04:39
Massive game tomorrow my fellow REDS.

What I want to see is total football. Not giving UTD any chance to breathe.

If we get one goal and win it we will hear Mourinho murmuring something to the effect that they were unlucky.

Rise to the occasion everyone. This is Anfield, not the theater of dreams.

maxlfc

1.) 13 Oct 2017 21:06:03
Total football? We are quite far from that these days.


2.) 13 Oct 2017 22:30:57
The way we’ve been playing it’s going to be a massacre. I might stay at home and do the DIY the wife has been asking me to do as I don’t think I can put myself through seeing that smug git Mourinho managing a united team that batter is the way City did.


3.) 13 Oct 2017 23:13:53
Ah Mr Dennis, always a ray of sunshine.


4.) 13 Oct 2017 23:28:51
Andy can you see us getting a result with our problems against a team that are flying? Be realistic.


5.) 13 Oct 2017 23:45:54
Can't say I'm overly confident but your pessimism defies belief! Have u actually watched our games?!


6.) 14 Oct 2017 00:02:18
Dennis they are not flying at all. Swansea were better than them for large parts, as where Everton and Southampton. I really do think your ingrained negativity towards Liverpool is causing you to overestimate United. We will do them tomorrow just watch.


7.) 14 Oct 2017 00:16:40
I am certainly not overly confident right now Mr Dennie but i also won't write us off before a whistle is blown. Mane is a big loss, without question, but we are capable of excellence, so let's see how we go and the reflect on the game.


8.) 14 Oct 2017 00:33:33
Mr Dennis. That was a typo.


9.) 14 Oct 2017 00:46:38
Ron, I have to disagree on the total football bit.

I honestly can't remember the last time we started playing cricket or rugby during a match, at least not since Skrtel left.


10.) 14 Oct 2017 06:56:59
Zed our keepers play volleyball and our defenders play hide and seek or kabaddi.


11.) 14 Oct 2017 09:11:18
It’s a sad day when even Ron is being negative 😞.


 

 

08 Oct 2017 17:06:36
FSG will find themselves in a financial hole of losses if they decide to sell LFC now. The decline in the British pound will make sure of that.

maxlfc

1.) 08 Oct 2017 21:35:51
Personally mate I just can't see it happening, I don't know if it's come from the horses mouth but from what I've seen, it looks to me just like media nonsense. As you rightly say, if they sold now, they'd shoot their selves in their own foot.


2.) 08 Oct 2017 22:21:01
FSG won't be selling, IMO.


3.) 09 Oct 2017 11:55:57
I agree that FSG are highly unlikely to be selling now. But I don't believe it's just media talk. It's likely from the wannabe buyer's side to stir the #FSGOUT fans into action and maybe get FSG to consider selling. But to no avail is my guess.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about and clearly you have little or no understanding of the business if you think potential buyers of large businesses take to such tactics.}


 

 

07 Oct 2017 09:16:54
Klopp this season

All competitions: P12, W5, D5, L2

Lets break it up

CL: P4. W2, D2

EPL: P7, W3, D3, L1

LC: P1, L1

Obviously a win vs Newcastle would have been a massive boost but it is the situation really that bad to start calling for Klopp's head?

maxlfc

1.) 07 Oct 2017 09:44:05
Exactly mate, good post, I don't understand people calling for his head all the time, its quite ridiculous really, it's not as if we're Everton. If we was then I'd be calling for the managers head but we're not. I'm not too concerned, I am hopeful of a win against utd but would take a draw, we'll be fine, Klopp will do a good job here, he has his flaws but what manager doesn't?


2.) 07 Oct 2017 10:55:31
Max, how dare you post such common sense proven by statistics and facts on this board? Don't you know that the sky is falling and Klopp is a complete failure and needs to be sacked and Moyes needs to take the job, based on the facts you just demonstrated? The nerve of you.

Corleone, are you drinking the same kool-aid, mate? Don't you know that the rules are different when judging Klopp? Don't you know that to some on here and they know who they are, Klopp should have won the PL by now (whatever the heck that means) and is not allowed to make mistakes, learn from them and improve? You guys are just Klopp apologists and need to sit down and be quiet and stop making excuses for the "failure" of a manager.


3.) 07 Oct 2017 12:10:59
No-one should be calling for his head IMO but let's be honest, that's a poor start to the season whichever way you fudge it.


4.) 07 Oct 2017 13:07:29
I disagree, Ron. It is not as poor a start to the season as many think and the numbers prove that. Could it have been better? Absolutely and that is the frustration. We've taken 7 points from 9 at home. 5 points from 12 on the road (could definitely have been more and I agree on that) . Qualified for CL at a canter, smashing the team many thought was the hardest draw and have recorded 2 losses in 13 in all comps.

Again, many may have expected more and I agree with that and this is why people think it is a poor start BUT the numbers do not support that. I do agree with you that it could definitely have been better as the opportunities were there to improve on these returns BUT that's football with all the frustrations that come with it. Just my opinion.


5.) 07 Oct 2017 13:54:44
we need to start winning games. Do a breakdown since the previous International Break, disaster.


6.) 07 Oct 2017 14:09:19
Agree with Ron. Nobody should be calling for his head yes he makes mistakes but name me a manager that doesn't. It has been an okay start of the season. The 2 draws against Watford and in particular burnely at home were very disappointing. There is still plenty of time to turn things around and a transfer window also to hopefully get a few key players in key areas to get us through to the summer. For me top 4 is a must this season or season has been a failure and unfortunately then whether we like it or not klopp will be under serious pressure.


7.) 07 Oct 2017 14:14:24
Less than 50% win rate with our ambition and the opposition we've faced is a bad start, no two ways about it.


8.) 07 Oct 2017 17:35:39
Both Burnley and Watford have put in some great performances already this season and have earned their points, should we have done better against them with all the chances we created _ yes probably, but the EPL average standard is going up every yr, this isn't top trumps.
There are 3 teams too close to call for favourite to win the league, and three outsiders (ourselves included ) with a outside chance, how many leagues are so competitive, buckle up and enjoy the ride.
To anyone who thinks there's a manager / owner who can wave a magic money wand and we'll break into the top level just look at the fortunes of what we're up against, we're doing ok, keeper, cbs next upgrades and maybe next season it'll be 4 teams too close to call, that's our best hope.


9.) 07 Oct 2017 21:05:46
We started the season with 1 draw and 4 wins on the trot in all competitions until the loss vs City. We have Europe to contend with too this season so not going to be as simple as last season.

Biggest thing for me is Klopp has to now settle on his strongest starting eleven. Chopping and changing like he has not going to make things easier.


10.) 07 Oct 2017 21:34:38
We've shipped 20 goals in all competitions and it's only early October.

I love Klopp but we will win nothing unless we sort out the defence.


11.) 08 Oct 2017 00:02:05
Our expectations were high this summer and we haven't lived up to that expectation yet. It hasn't been a great start but it hasn't been poor either. We have played well at times.


12.) 08 Oct 2017 00:41:09
True Drogie, we all know the defence is the biggest problem. That's what I'm waiting for to get solved, if Klopp gets the defence sorted I think we'll be a real threat to ANY team. The way we do our transfer business though, I don't find it as simple as it sounds, see to us all, the perfect scenario would be for us to bring in a couple of good CB's but will we do that? I can't see it I really can't - they are hard to come by these days, our defending is terrible but it's not just ours and that's what people need to understand more of, what team has incredible defending these days? I can't think of one.

There's a lot better then ours but not exactly unbelievable, every teams defence needs improvement no matter what team you look at. We need reinforcements that's for sure but it won't solve the problem overnight.

We're in the toughest league in Europe, with top quality teams spending money left right and center, to me it's not about money it's about quality look at Mane, Salah, Coutinho to mention just a few, all of which was bargains. If only we can get a few good bargains on some defenders we'd be laughing. Matter of time in my opinion, but Klopp deserves respect/ patience. He isn't a magician, we need to get behind him and the team no matter what happens this season and give them the time to get things sorted out.

Apart from our attacking midfielders we have a very average squad with such a defence, until that is sorted we aren't going anywhere but we're used to this so it's no big deal in my opinion, onwards and upwards? I don't feel like we're going backwards, I feel Klopp is taking us forward, if I'm wrong then fair enough but I think he has his plans and I fully believe in him.


13.) 08 Oct 2017 07:46:35
Klopp is taking us forward, no doubt as the numbers prove that. Could we be further ahead of the curve now? Of course BUT this is the real world where things are not black and white and magic wands cannot be used to just make what you want happen. We don't have City, Utd and Chelsea money to spend at will, Fact. What we do have is a manager who is a builder and who the owners have backed completely. If we wanna win the PL, we will have to actually build from the ground up and show improvement every season under Klopp with CL footie and then, mount a real challenge.

That is exactly what Poch is doing at Spurs and has still won nothing in his 4th season. Why aren't the Spurs fans calling for his head? Cos they are not stupid and they know where they were when he got there with mess AVB and Dim Sherwood left there before Poch came to them. BUT after two years, some of our fans want Klopp gone cos he did not win the PL fast enough for them. Yeah, these are the people we have to deal with.

Bottom line is that we are going to have to learn how to walk before we run and that is what Klopp is trying to do and that may be poison for some fans BUT we've waited for 27 years for the PL so what will another few years of waiting change? Up the Pool!


14.) 08 Oct 2017 07:47:01
On another note, Great posts on this thread. I just love it, with people posting some really sensible stuff laced with objectivity, perspective and offering real solutions to real problems. Bravo, lads.


15.) 08 Oct 2017 08:35:51
Well said Bingo, couldn't agree more mate.


16.) 08 Oct 2017 13:18:11
10 league games, then you assess how the season is looking.


 

 

05 Oct 2017 18:29:19
Mentioned it recently, it does look like Klopp wants to get the first half over and done with. Going by the way we have started some matches, the high intensity and plenty of chances being created, finish teams off in the first half and there will be no way back for them. That for me has been Klopp's plan. It has failed to come together so far but only a matter of time before the tables start turning.

Even against City, we were battering their defence before Mane got his marching orders.

It just looks like the City match killed the confidence of the team.

Obviously getting a win vs Newcastle before the International break would have been ideal.

On the one hand I fear Mourinho being Mourinho will be spoiling the party by parking the bus like he always does vs LFC but on the other I can see Klopp and the team returning to winning form.

International breaks are the pits!

maxlfc

1.) 05 Oct 2017 19:40:18
Max, a lot of teams come out to try to finish games esp. vs lesser teams in the first half so they can conserve energy and manage the game in the second half. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. We did get the win vs LC where bar Migs' brain farts, I think we handled them very well. We just need to be more consistent in all phases of the game and keep the individual errors in defence to a minimum (knock on wood) .

As for Mou, you are spot on. He is still terrified of Klopp and has been since Klopp thumped him at Real Madrid in the CL and helping him get the sack at Chelsea after we smashed them at Chelsea for Klopp's first win in the PL when he arrived. He will park the bus at first just to control the game at first before picking his spots. We may not be favorites and that in some way, may play to our advantage.


2.) 05 Oct 2017 22:11:33
Why would teams be terrified of us? We are a leaking sieve. Just sit back, let us have possession and pass over and back, wait for breaks and hammer our awful defense. Oh and get some set pieces and exploit us again.

Our best chance is when teams like City attack, then we have a chance. Sit back and counter and you have a great chance of coming away with the points against us.


3.) 05 Oct 2017 23:29:05
To be honest I don't think they will park the bus personally, their confidence is high, they will want to do a number on us because they know our defence is rubbish. I think if they do this, it'll be their failure because we will destroy them on counter attack. Well, here's to hoping anyway lol.


4.) 06 Oct 2017 08:48:55
They will prob go out with 5 at the back, no point for them to come to Anfield and try to outplay us with fast fluid attacking fotball, that's not what they do. They do score a lot of set pieces and crosses, so i have a bad feeling about this one.


 

 

03 Oct 2017 18:14:06
Saw Harry moaning about Wijnaldum and Ox.

Harry, what about Keane, Aquilani, Balotelli, Benteke, Markovic, Lovren, Mignolet, Joe Allen, Borini, Charlie Adam, Downing, Coates, Ilori, Carroll, Dosenna, Ryan Babel and a whole host of others. Go look at the scouting mentioned here. Josemi anyone? Mark Gonzalez? Should I go on? Voronin, Jan Kromkamp, Mauricio Pellegrino, David Ngog etc etc etc. Think I might run out of space posting more player names.

Klopp is at fault for Liverpool struggling for year after year. His signings are the worst in Liverpool history right?

Ox has not even had a proper run out yet, Wijnaldum has not been our worst signing ever either, not even close to it.

You clearly have something against Klopp Harry. Our squad is in a far healthier state than what it was compared to the squad he took over from Rodgers.

Our scouting has been bad for a very, very, very long time now, not just under Klopp.

maxlfc

1.) 03 Oct 2017 19:02:33
Yea you could add these two players also under that list! I don’t give a toss lol! There are many more dross you actually missed! Something against Klopp! Yea kind of! The same what you had in Brendan’s final year! How are you better than me? You abused him and does it on a daily basis.
If Klopp doesn’t win anything by end of this season or next! Then he too will have the same fate as Brendan! Keep aside me there is a good bunch of people outside this site who are not happy with what’s not going on lol and that number is directly proportional to our wins and loss!


2.) 03 Oct 2017 19:24:30
What were you expecting Klopp to win in under two years Harry? The Premier League?

We are back in the CL, still in it and 1 point from Chelsea in 4th.

If we were at a point where the season had gone down in flames, had no chance of qualifying for the group stages of the CL and rock bottom of the League then I would be having a fanny wobble.

Liverpool won the League Cup in 11/ 12. Before that the FA Cup in 05/ 06 and you expected how many trophies from Klopp in under two years? He was going to win everything with the squad he took over from Rodgers right?

So let's sack him Harry. Let's bring in Allardyce, Koeman when he gets booted or Martinez. Hell, let take Gareth Southgate. Not long before he will be canned either.

Oh hold on, what about De Boer? They going to win things in under two seasons. Let's do it and have you blaming Klopp because of their failure.

Ha Ha.


3.) 03 Oct 2017 19:41:11
His fate is decided by himself. I am no one to decide nor you either. Like every manager his position would also be reviewed at the end of the season and If it is satisfactory he keeps the job else he move on.
Why don’t you write the same letter with questions to the board of directors instead. They might give you a reply!

You should be bothering about FSG / Boards expectations than mine! They are the one who decides!
Personally if he doesn’t get a top 4 then I expect him to get the sack. And if you have an issue try writing a letter to the club!

They would toss that piece of paper into the box I am afraid!

Good luck!


4.) 03 Oct 2017 19:57:29
The club will decide appropriately when the situation arrives. Neither me nor you have any say in it. The club appointed Mr Klopp and they know what they expect in return from the manager. If he DOESNT! Then he gets the sack else he keep his job!
And Regarding the replacement. The Club knows what they are doing and why should we worry?
What if we replaces Klopp with Allegri or Leanardo Jardim! Would you stop supporting them?


5.) 03 Oct 2017 19:58:09
By the way, I was fully behind Brendan until mid way through 14/ 15.

The man had to go as it was as clear as daylight that we were at a dead end with him. Did you even see our CL performance under Brendan that season?

Start of 15/ 16 we were no better off than when he joined us in 12/ 13 and that is after he pissed away 100 million after 100 million. That was the final nail in his coffin for me and you blame me for wanting him gone?

So let's see Harry, 15/ 16 Klopp came in when the squad was in ruins, not a full season. 16/ 17 qualified for the CL first full season. So Harry, why should I be digging Klopp's eyes out at this point when I was not doing it to Rodgers under two years of his reign?


6.) 03 Oct 2017 20:27:11
Klopp is going sooner than later I don't think he will last the season. Nice bloke but will win nothing with him.
The media are loosing interest in his character and there now seems to be a media mini which hunt against him with the rag daily star saying he needs to be sacked.
Obviously I want him to do well just can't see it.

{Ed025's Note - the day we start listening to anything from the daily star we are in big trouble walter, hes a very good manager i think and will still be at liverpool next season i would think mate..


7.) 03 Oct 2017 20:28:32
Harry, your over the top comments like "Klopp is responsible for signing bad players year after year" is just Trump like hyperbole nonsenseass he's only been here for two full seasons which makes your point baseless. Also, you have been dissing Klopp since he got here and have never had ANYTHING good to say about him so forgive me if I look at your posts with a distinct lack of credit and good faith. You don't like the guy, never have and clearly never will. You spent the whole of last season slating him cos he did not win the league for you in his first season like your idol Conte did. n How's Conte doing now? I mean, he got us CL footie and you're still pissed off.

Also, you talk as if other managers have been successful at winning the PL and Klopp is the odd one out. NO manager has won the league for LFC since freaking 1990. NO ONE. Your god Rafa spent SIX seasons here and did not win it and in fact, he bottled it point blank, with his pathetic signings and tactics. But cos Klopp did not win you the league in his first full season, you throw a stop like a self entitled child (Ed01 used more colorful language to describe you, btw) . BR deserved the sack and was incompetent beyond belief. The fact that Klopp used his own players to get us to a European final and half of them to get us CL footie is a scathing indictment on the abject failure named BR.

Klopp came to us in our worst time and is trying to pick up the pieces and tho he has made mistakes and is struggling, he is STILL in his second full season here and needs our support through this sticky patch. When I say "our" as you already excluded yourself cos you often address him as "your" manager as if you were a rival manc or bitter. Furthermore, Leave FSG out of it cos it was the same FSG that gave Klopp a 3 year extension meaning they have committed to him for the long haul so pls, stop thinking and projecting for them cos you have no clue what will happen in the future nor what they will do with Klopp's future regardless of the season's outcome.


8.) 03 Oct 2017 20:31:14
The Brodge nearly won the league for liverpool after over 20 years of wishing. That should have been our trophy but fate and a little slip lost it for us. He should get credit for that instead of being slated all the time he is a good manager. Look what he has done with celtic.

Klopp news to be given time. Wijnaldum sometimes it seems he is not even on the pitch but he is working really hard to intercept, block spaces and get the tackle in. He is also pretty handy at the other end of the pitch. Fantastic player who's near post screamer ensured we finish fourth in the premiership. End of.

I do think the problem is with the midfield and not the defence. Ok lovren and matip have made mistakes but have also made some great tackles and headers. All cbs make mistakes. It is a split second decision. The midfield needs to make sure these through balls and crosses aren't made. They need to break up the play. Klopp knows this, that is why he offered over £60.000.000 for Keita. I really feel that I'd we had got our four targets; Salah, Robertson, VVD and Kieta we would be up there with city and united. (That was horrible to say, "up there with united etc") I think we will get vvd in January. He isn't trying at Southampton and they will get fed up with it. I reckon we should get Keita on loan until June and then buy him. Won't happen but I think VVD might.

{Ed025's Note - calling wiji a "fantastic player" took all the credibility out of what was a good post there for me superred..


9.) 03 Oct 2017 20:33:41
Harry, you make the Liverpool job sound easy mentioning Allegri and Jardim.

They will arrive at Liverpool, next week after 7 EPL matches have gone, be champions at the end of the season plus follow that up with another League title the following season as that is what you seem to have expected from Klopp?

Harry, Klopp won titles in a League dominated by Bayern Munich. He has been there done that. I think he deserves a bit more time than what you are giving him CONSIDERING how utterly hopeless Liverpool have been season after season before Klopp arrived.

Get a grip.


10.) 03 Oct 2017 20:46:52
Spot on Ed25. Negative, your post is hilarious. You are aware that FSG nor no one with two brain ells to rub together should ever listen to what media and pundits say as they are always looking for a witch hunt and what manager to put pressure on so he can get the sack, right? Se what they did to De Boer after FOUR games?

This is the same media protected Wenger (last season) and Mou (at Chelsea) from getting the sack by making every excuse under the sun to keep them (Mou eventually got what he deserved) . This is the same media offered every excuse in the book for LFC to keep BR even tho after 18 months, we all knew he was out of his depth and completely incompetent.

That's the media you are paying attention to? I propose you focus on the real issues at hand and not waste your time with media hacks who have been out to get Klopp since last season cos he beat out their darlings Wenger and Mou to get CL footie. Let's focus on our team and support them in the hope that things will change for the better.


11.) 03 Oct 2017 20:52:30
Take help from MK and put those stats nicely into a decent letter and post it to FSG! They might get impressed with those figures and hindsight! Get into an argument / Debate with FSG and try win them! They would decide who stays and who not! Brendan did not win anything hence he got the boots. If Klopp doesn’t win anything then he too has the similar fate!

This is a result oriented business and every penny you invest has it’s value and the values comes in revenues and incomes which is directly proportional to success in terms of accolades and CL places and If a manager is unsuccessful in keeping this cycle moving then HE GETS THE BOOTS!

Players and Mangers are transient employees, they come and go. The club moves on. You me and everyone will cheer for the next man! It’s normal!

Klopp has had time and money and I expect him to stay full season but he has to ACHCIVE HIS TARGETS! If not he goes and the next man comes in!
Bayern sacked Anchelotti inspite of winning league last season! Everton might sack Koeman if the results doesn’t improve!

So every point dropped here and there would add up in his resume at the end of th season!


12.) 03 Oct 2017 20:53:54
Credit where credit is due Supperred but look at what other managers did at Celtic? I mean it is a one horse race League.

Rodgers is absolutely lost in Europe and that is pretty much that. Bring him back to the EPL and it will be same old same old.

He has polished up his CV a bit at Celtic so good for him. He has always wanted to manage in Spain.

My word, I just wonder how much better we would be with a partnership like Vertonghen and Alderweireld. I even reckon Mignolet's blushed would be spared most of the time with these two players in our defence.

I think we need to look elsewhere before deciding to go with VVD. If he is purposely trying to make a meal of things in order to still force his way out for a January move when getting a start for Southampton last weekend then I suggest we stay clear of this player. At least Coutinho has stopped throwing his toys.


13.) 03 Oct 2017 20:58:15
Superred, BR could have been a very good manager and a legend for us BUT his arrogance, delusions of grandeur, tactical dithering and outright disdain for his own players is what cost us the PL and ultimately, got him the boot. The Celtic thing for me is a red herring cos even Neil Lennon won a shed load over there. Do you want him at LFC now? The day he does what Klopp has done in a real league and in Europe then we can talk. Either way, apart from Wiji being a fantastic player, I respect your opinion.

Max, your post on expectations is spot on. City were touted as PL champs immediately Pep arrived and the media love-in began and after they won their first 5 games, we all thought they would walk the PL. How did that work out? He got his head beat up by LC and Everton conceding 4 goals each time and got his bell rung with the physicality of the PL.

Some on here thing footie is an exact science so if say, Allegri came, he should just walk the PL and if he does not after two seasons, he should be sacked. Sorry, the real world does not work that way and if you believe in such unicorns then you will forever be a moaner.


14.) 03 Oct 2017 21:02:15
Totally agree with ed025. Klopp is a great manager he has built our defence for next to nothing, compared to the other top teams who have spent hundreds of millions on defenders. I know they haven't been fantastic this season but we have seen them play very well in the past, we know they can do it. Don't listen to tabloid rubbish. Why should he b sacked? He has lost 1"game in the premiership! We are within touching distance of the top four. Our squad is much bigger than last year. Ï look at our bench and see Can, AOC, Robertson, Sturridge, TAA, Milner and Karius. They are all players who could walk into nearly any team.

We are in a good position to turn it all around. A couple of wins and we are back in the mix. I know it hascbecome a comical cliché but next year, when we have vvd and keita and a new striker to replace coutinio I think we will be right up there. Everyone says " liverpool are a player or two away from being title winners we have totally dominated every team we have played. With henderson spreading the ball out wide and keeping calm under pressure we have been millimetres away from winning these games, hitting the post and the bar. We will come good, I thought we looked really static with sturridge playing. He is a good striker to have against teams that park the bus as he can score from anywhere. Lob the keeper from 25 yards out! But we distance seem as fluid as we do when firmino is playing. I think firmino may be the most underrated player in the league. We all love him I know but others don't.


15.) 03 Oct 2017 21:07:47
"Players and Mangers are transient employees, they come and go. The club moves on. You me and everyone will cheer for the next man! It’s normal! "

Harry, please please please. We have a manager who has won titles so you are willing to let go of that and suggest Allegri and that other guy who I have never heard of managing Monaco?

On 10 June 2014, Jardim was appointed at AS Monaco FC for two seasons plus the option for another. He led the team to the third place in Ligue 1 in his first year, repeating the feat in 2015–16;in between, on 12 May 2015, he signed a contract extension until 2019.

Well done to the man for winning Ligue 1 last season. Take note of his first two seasons Harry. let's sack Klopp now, bring in Jardim straight away and he will win us the League, right?

Oh Harry, you are such a good laugh mate.


16.) 03 Oct 2017 21:12:52
I have nothing to add onto what max has said, I agree with everything you've said there mate. Harry you need to try been patient mate, Klopp doesn't have a magic wand.


17.) 03 Oct 2017 21:29:33
Am I really reading people saying Klopp should be sacked?! My god what is the world coming to? Ridiculous, just ridiculous.
With that logic every manager from 2nd place down should be sacked! Why are these fools not winning every game?! It's totally unacceptable for a manager to allow his team to draw or lose. Sack them all!
You people really are ibeciles.


18.) 03 Oct 2017 21:34:21
Harry, Ancelloti was brought in to win the CL and not just the league as Bayern always do that just like Celtic do in Scotland. He actually succeeded in making them actually worse in the CL and miraculously, made them a laughing stock in the German league so again, another fake misnomer. Btw, no one is saying that Klopp does not have to achieve his targets sor not held accountable for not reaching them so saying that is another misnomer.

Also, Klopp has had time to do what exactly? He's been here for two seasons altogether BUT to you that is enough time? Did you have the same standards for BR when he was here for 3 years plus blowing 300m plus on mostly dross players like Allen, Aspas, Borini, Alberto, Balotelli, Lambert, Markovic and so on? If the answer is no then your hypocrisy is deafening. You are literally making stuff up to make Klopp look bad and frankly, it is disappointing and dishonest. You can easily make an argument w/ o making stuff up or using hyperbole to describe your points.


19.) 03 Oct 2017 21:37:44
Lol I don’t know why people are arguing with me over something that is not in my control. If FSG sacks him then that is it! Try a protest then!


20.) 03 Oct 2017 21:39:53
Spot on, Max. Had Monaco sacked Jardim after two seasons cos (he did not reach the tarhgets", would he have won the league in his 3rd season? That question is for Harry as he seems to know everything about when a manager needs to be sacked as 2 seasons is now the new standard for LFC managers according to him even tho his idol Rafa, spent SIX years at LFC and won NO PL titles.


21.) 03 Oct 2017 21:40:56
Ohk! I am so sorry for having an opinion about a manger and his position come end of the season! I can change my opinion to suit the requirements of people.
Klopp’s job is safe as long as he wishes for and this has no relevance to any trophies / titles / demands set by the board / Club.

Max and Bingo kindly take a note and spare me!


22.) 03 Oct 2017 21:54:40
Oh sorry Bingo / Max, I didn’t knew it. I apologize for having a dumb opinion. Kindly let’s put this into the bed! Ignore my posts in future as I ll do the same! There are hundreds of posters so try and indulge with them!
Thanks!


23.) 03 Oct 2017 21:59:48
Harry don't spit your dummy out mate, we're all entitled to opinions, this occasion a lot of disagree with you, it happens to us all lol.


24.) 03 Oct 2017 22:04:58
Harry, I did not suggest you are not untitled to an opinion. This happens to be an open forum for members to discuss Liverpool FC.

What I do not understand about your arguments is that you have nothing positive to say about Klopp or Liverpool, irrespective of the topic and is maybe why you get shot down the way you do.

There is nothing wrong with criticism but when it gets to a point where you just keep on having verbal diarrhea 100% of the time then really, why not rather study to become a journalist? Not that you will have much studying to do :-)

That way the papers can sell even more sh*te courtesy of Harry.

Might be a good career move for you mate and that will lead to even more Liverpool fans will 'loving' you.


25.) 03 Oct 2017 22:26:03
Simple question then. Who would replace Klopp? I’m not going to pretend he’s not made mistakes and hasn’t rectified certain issues but it can’t be denied he has made progress. If he goes then who comes in that would do any better? The problems at our club run far deeper than the manager in my opinion.


26.) 03 Oct 2017 22:33:03
Oh, don't be a snowflake, Harry and stop playing the victim. We are all having a very good debate here and our opinions are being aired. We disagree with your opinion and that is that and nothing more. No one is picking on you, no one called your opinion dumb neither did anyone say Klopp's job is safe w/ o winning trophies or anything like that. Grow a pair and stand up for hat you believe in, will ya?


27.) 03 Oct 2017 22:51:03
Westwood666, I have been asking the same question for days and nobody who wants Klopp gone can come up with answers. Finally Harry gave up two names, Allegri and Jardim. Do any of them even speak English or understand it?

Klopp almost made me kick the tele to pieces this weekend, that is for sure.

But to call for his head? Beyond logic.


28.) 03 Oct 2017 22:52:38
Can't believe someone admitted to reading the daily star. Lol
Can't even use the excuse its because of the crossword, I've heard it's got a dot to dot. 😂.


29.) 03 Oct 2017 23:03:21
Superred91

"Can, Ox, Robertson, TAA, Milner, Karius, all players that could walk into nearly any side"

What have you been smoking pal? Jesus.


30.) 03 Oct 2017 23:10:32
To add some perspective:
Without fully knowing what the exact expectations to Klopp are from the board, he did put some of this pressure upon himself by literally promising them (and thereby us) the premier league title come the end of this season.

Again, I don't know if this is actually what is expected from him from the board. I definitely don't think that should be the case, neither from the board or from us. I'd be very pleased with European football for the next few seasons and to see Klopp build up a stronger and stronger side over the next years. Time is definitely on his side.

It all comes down to the Klopp-effect (or something else clever sounding) - he came and wanted to conquer right away! And against all odds he did get us to two finals and into Champions League. Add to that his spirit and charisma, a lot of supporters have been "fooled" into believing that we are a title challenging side and has been since his arrival. The expectations are simply too high and I can kind of see why. Although I myself don't buy into it all. At times I almost did though.


31.) 03 Oct 2017 23:18:56
I'm inclined to agree with Ed025, I think regardless of what happens this season Klopp will get another summer to put things right and will be in charge next season.


32.) 03 Oct 2017 23:30:28
Stand clear stand, Harry's being Harry and everyone with a brain is braining him, go figure.


33.) 04 Oct 2017 00:22:49
Dude we have been terrible in defence so far but we beat utd and spuds and we will be in top 4 having already played 4 of the 5 we will rival for top 4 this season.
Win 2 easily winnable CL games coming up and Seville will take points of spartak. and we are one home performance away from last 16.
Wow what a hole we are in.
Football is all about spells of form and if you stay in it when your form is poor (as we are still in it) then your doing ok.


34.) 04 Oct 2017 06:16:51
I have absolutely no interest in replying to you both and I should have closed the discussion from the first reply! People are not entitled to any opinion here. They are only entitled to something which others want to hear! No one knows what will happen in future. If Liverpool don’t get a place in CL next summer then I expect the club to sack Klopp. Who should replace him is something the club has to think if they do take an action.

Did anyone had an insight Thomas Lemar was tipped to replace Coutinho until it broke into the press? Who is just a hindsight and pure guess! Why is the after effects of the points you drop through out the season. If Klopp is not feeling any pressure of his job and has a free run for another X years then he is a very lucky man compared to other managers.

Playing the victim! Oh yes! Now pick someone else and be the boss!


35.) 04 Oct 2017 06:26:05
The only people worse at recruitment than "Liverpool FC" are FSG.
Man do they employ some "football morons" to run our glorious club. They employ people who may be good at corporate game playing but are totally lacking in any sort of football nouse. These people come across like they couldn't run a bath let alone one of the world's biggest football clubs. Like I say, I'm sure they're very capable in their chosen field, just not the world of football.

{Ed001's Note - I have to agree there, Ayre, for instance, might well be excellent in his chosen field, but he was utterly hopeless in the position they placed him in at LFC. Let's just hope the new guy turns out to know his stuff.}


36.) 04 Oct 2017 08:53:50
Harry - the flip side of everyone being entitled to an opinion is that when you're opinion is ridiculous, people have the right to ridicule you. That's the way it is. It's like being a flat earth conspiracy theorist - if you make that decision you're entitled to that, but don't expect anything but laughter and eye rolling from the people on the round the world flight!


37.) 04 Oct 2017 09:20:35
Hjikle

Like what? The flip side of every opinion? The flip side of opinion which is against Klopp to be precise! Is there a flip side of opinion on Mignolet? Alberto Moreno? Emre Can. Daniel Sturridge, Klavan, Lovren, Matip? You want me to name the list of players that get abused here on daily basis. I see a complete unity among posters when it comes to players!

The fact is you don’t want to hear anything against Klopp for THE TIME BEING! This will change if we continue to drop points! I’ll note your opinion in May 2018 if the club finishes outside top 4. Star this thread and I ll see the number of posters backing a manger who wouldn’t improve on last years finish / performances.


38.) 04 Oct 2017 09:58:28
'The fact is you don’t want to hear anything against Klopp for THE TIME BEING! This will change if we continue to drop points! I’ll note your opinion in May 2018 if the club finishes outside top 4. Star this thread and I ll see the number of posters backing a manger who wouldn’t improve on last years finish / performances. '

I must admit I can't argue with this.


39.) 04 Oct 2017 09:58:37
Wrong Harry. You are the king of abusing LFC players on here so stop that stuff about the LFC players getting abuse. The issue is not that we are not interested in hearing anything bad about Klopp. His flaws and mistakes are well documented. The problem is that you of all people, are inherently and relentlessly biased towards Klopp. You hate him and want him gone, period and this, for a long time. You give him no credit for what he does right and give him all the blame for all that goes wrong.

If that is where you are coming from then sorry, people who are not like that will disagree with you on that. You spent last season putting all types of pressure on Klopp saying that he'd better win the PL whereas, you and I both knew we would never do that due to the inherent problems and injuries the team suffered last season. So now, that that did not happen, you are here throwing a strop and implicitly campaigning for his dismissal cos we drew a couple of games in the PL and CL (not lost, btw), drawing FSG and all types of crap into it.

News Flash: FSG don't need you to speak for them on what they will or will not do or when they will do or not do it so keep them out of the debate. You want Klopp gone, we get it so stick to that point and stop drawing FSG, players other teams and their managers into this debate. They are irrelevant. We will see where we will finish and go from there and so we do not need you to remind us or FSG of the obvious.


40.) 04 Oct 2017 11:51:10
No Harry, the flip side to anyone stating their opinion on anything. You are right to. You are free to. We are happy for you to do it. But don't expect immunity from judgement for it - if you want to put your opinion out there, everyone else has the right to judge you and it on it's basis. Especially when you put the same opinion out there over and over again.


41.) 04 Oct 2017 11:55:06
And to be frank Harry, arguing that if we continue to drop lots of points people will eventually turn on the manager is ridiculous. Of course if we drop out of all contention, take a massive step backward and have an awful season with Klopp there will be discontent. That doesn't make it any more sensible now. Would Chelsea fans have been sensible to be discontent with JM when he won them the title? He was fired about 10 games later, doesn't make a judgement in May sensible.

The only person demanding that anyone stops having an opinion is you Harry - everyone else just finds your opinion on the subject (and many others) somewhere on the scale of hilarious to offensive. You seem the only one who doesn't want to be told that.


42.) 04 Oct 2017 12:00:22
Preach, Hijkle.


43.) 04 Oct 2017 12:18:12
Fair enough hijkle. Good move on! I am not stopping anyone having an opinio! You had two and I read it in full! Good and thanks!


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2017 19:30:27
If the club decides Coutinho is going nowhere and goes on and refuses to play for us then I will loose all respect. Then he can rot.

Suarez spat out his dummy when he found out he was not leaving immediately but still gave his all on the pitch irrespective of him being miff.

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11 Aug 2017 17:53:15
No to any Barcelona player which is surplus thank you very much.

Luckily LFC have zero interest in Barcelona players :-)

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11 Aug 2017 17:51:19
FSG + Benitez = ice cold water into a pot of boiling hot oil.

It ain't going to happen. Benitez had his time at Liverpool so let sleeping dogs lie.

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10 Aug 2017 20:38:35
I highly doubt another bid would have been made so soon with the Dembele offer being waved away.

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09 Aug 2017 21:58:00
"We understand Barca’s latest offer was €85m (£77m) up front plus €15m (£13m) in add-ons"

That is a vast amount of cash up front :-O

It is clear Liverpool want to keep Coutinho.

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09 Oct 2017 23:15:59
If Everton were ten men down vs City that day, it would probably have been 10-0.

You guys cannot even hit a barn yard door at the moment. Mane on the other hand, if he had stayed on the pitch, my money would have been on him to score at least one goal.

City defence was crying everytime he caught them napping before he was sent off.

Go watch the start of the Liverpool match against City Ed025, I dare you. City were running around like headless chickens.

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{Ed025's Note - this was not about everton max so stop being so bitter we actually drew 1-1 but thats a different story, the debate was about who had the best CB pairing city or liverpool?, facts say city but you are so blinded by your liverpool bias that you cant admit it im afraid mate..


 

 

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09 Oct 2017 23:07:48
Not as much as the Bluenoses Ed025 ;-)

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{Ed025's Note - thats a fair point max, but only you could make a 5-0 drubbing seem like you played city off the park!!...kudos though mate..


 

 

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09 Oct 2017 23:00:43
The 5 goals we conceded vs City is skewing our GD.

It is not like we suffer 5 goal defeats to often, do we Jayden? That and being 10 men down against a potent attacking force. It is not like we had to be up against Stoke with 10 men down hoping and praying that Crouch wouldn't totally destroy us. Holy sh*t, that defeat we suffered under Rodgers vs Stoke still sends shivers down my spine.

Being 10 men down vs City, Guardiola throwing 10 men forward, Sane at wing back and all, yes any team could have suffered the defeat we did.

That is a fact.

City minus Aguero that day, Guardiola having to change his game plan, us still having Mane on the pitch who was making mince meat out of the City defence. I would have loved to know what the score would have been then. Salah was having his fun with the City defence too.

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09 Oct 2017 22:14:56
Jayden, Guardiola has not been about defending this season, in no shape or form. He cannot rely on his team to defend otherwise he will suffer the same fate as last season.

Conte's system is slowly but surely being found out too.

Attacking fullbacks as we know in the game of today are not accomplished at defending.

Guardiola broke the record for Walker knowing he is not accomplished but would make his team more potent going forward.

Guardiola also does not seem to have the notion of having a defensive midfielder on the pitch. He wants his team to pin the opposition back and my word, that is exactly what he is getting right this season. Ask his team to sit back and defend and it will be a case of him having another season like last. It is just not the way he has set up City to play and it is not like his new GK has had much to do either, nor has his defence. Lucky for him.

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09 Oct 2017 21:16:29
Jayden, Guardiola bought attacking fullbacks. Is Kyle Walker an accomplished defender? Ha ha, this is getting laughable.

Guardiola has done nothing to fix the poor options he has at CB. He could blasted as much money he wanted to on any CB he wanted. It did not happen.

I shall leave that with you :-)

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