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16 Jan 2018 16:06:07
Mignolet can say what he wants, Klopp has given him more than enough enough chances prove he is worthy of the no 1 spot.

There can be no sentiment. Mignolet is not good enough and is time for someone else to get a chance to face the firing line.

Klopp's biggest problem is that he is going to struggle to move Mignolet on.


1.) 16 Jan 2018 16:11:14
I don't think he will struggle, still a seasoned PL goalkeeper yes he's not good enough for us but probably good enough to play for anyone outside of the top six teams etc, there is always a need and someone will buy him, let's hope wages are not excessive for the so called "smaller clubs"

2.) 16 Jan 2018 16:25:53
That is exactly the problem. Mignolet is on a very lucrative contract and most clubs will snub him because of that.

So it will either be Liverpool who takes the knock or Mignolet becoming desperate and makes some tough decisions.

He might do well in the Serie A? Many GK's do.

3.) 16 Jan 2018 16:52:47
We might subsidise his wages to allow him leave though my thoughts echo the sentiments of the others in this site. Bit disappointing that he's not staying on to fight for his place. Make no mistake, I'm happier with him no longer playing as no 1 but he's competition for karius and likely to keep him on his toes. Not to mention the possibility of him helping out as the season goes on. Remember towards the end of last year he got his game in order.

4.) 16 Jan 2018 18:52:58
Migs is on 60k a week last I checked so not out of the question for a prem team!

5.) 16 Jan 2018 20:15:07
If you think about it he has international, ECL, EPL and Europa league experience and has played for a top 4 finishing side and is at the prime age for a keeper. He will appeal to clubs. And 60k isn’t huge if that is correct. Not sure why people would be disappointed he isn’t wanting to stay and fight for place, general opinion is he isn’t good enough why would people want to use a slot to keep him?

6.) 16 Jan 2018 21:22:04
I think we be better with Karius and Ward for the rest of the season. May help appease Ward a bit for the messing around he’s had this season. If we can sell Mignolet I say let him go, Klopp has gave him many chances and he’s has not learnt I have no confidence with him in goal.

7.) 16 Jan 2018 21:41:04
At least with karius, he has time to improve and have potential to develop himself. Mignolet who is 30 years old and had 4 years in this club has shown he will not reach in the standards for liverpool to strive to win trophies. His level would be ideal for a midtable club.

8.) 16 Jan 2018 21:51:54
Thing is I don’t recall Mignolet pulling up trees as Sunderland in the first place. Was he best of what we could get then?

9.) 17 Jan 2018 07:20:34
Milan keeper for 39 mil plus migs and bogdan 😂😂🤣 great deal that.

10.) 17 Jan 2018 09:01:51
I honestly struggle to imagine a club discussing their needs and being like 'hmmm we need a goalkeeper, a good shot stopper who can make our defence more solid, who could be possibly available? A-ha! Simon Mignolet! He'll solve our goalkeeping issue'. Seriously with the performances he has delivered what team is going to move for him? I mean is he honestly an upgrade for many of the mid-table clubs being suggested? I seriously doubt it.

11.) 17 Jan 2018 11:00:30
Mignolet was very average at Sunderland at best. Couldn't understand why we blew so much on him. We need to get the next one right. Alisson Becker or Jan Oblak would make an immediate difference.

12.) 17 Jan 2018 12:10:24
Fresst i think i remember he was sunderlands player of the season in the 2012/ 2013 season he looked pretty good that year probably due to them been terrible high volume shots taken against them so his highlight reel might have looked ok well vito mannone was player of the season for them to lol.



07 Jul 2017 22:45:23
It is quite clear that only an obscene amount will bring Keita to Liverpool.

Unless Keita decides to 'piss' on his current club then nothing is going to happen.


1.) 08 Jul 2017 02:25:36
Or He could just put in for a transfer and say he'd be unhappy to stay.

2.) 08 Jul 2017 07:18:07
Ralf Ragnick (RBL's Sporting Direct) has said that not even a 100m bid will make them sell Keita. I don't know what other hint that LFC and some on here need. Move on, pls.

3.) 08 Jul 2017 07:22:35
Yes but the CEO has said that he would not stand in Keitas way if he wanted to leave. This happens every transfer window, it's part of the song and dance. If people want to have faith that he's coming (I'm one of them) then fair play. If he doesn't come he doesn't come but I'm not getting in a negative mind state about it yet. I believe he will come.

4.) 08 Jul 2017 08:36:03
It was the same with Mane to Southampton. They also had a not for sale stance but in the end it was Mane who pulled the plug and forced the move.

Leipzig do not need money, they want to keep Keita because he is a vital player for them. The problem for Keita is that if he burns bridges with Leipzig and Liverpool fail to meet the asking price then Keita ends up losing and Liverpool face another tapping up situation.

Very dangerous game to play for both Keita and Liverpool. This is all going to come down to Keita forcing his way out.

5.) 08 Jul 2017 08:46:58
He is not coming chaps and sounds like if we continue to push then we msy be reported to FIFA on the grounds of more tapping up. I can not beleive our club are still monitoring or what ever it is we are doing, certainly no bid has gone in. Wasting time that could be used chasing other CM's, CB's and LB's.

6.) 08 Jul 2017 08:50:29
I can not believe how bad we are in the transfer market. Between the apology and getting highly inflated prices we are crippled. I know klopp says to be patient but I would of liked players a part of preseason so they better get a move on. We need 3 more players. A good left back. A centre back and a top striker.

We also need to shift sakho, Moreno karius.

It's ok for klopp to say this but he has always been an advocate of early business and getting players settled in preseason so I can not help but feel our current team could be it going into the season.

7.) 08 Jul 2017 09:17:12
Liverpool have mucked it up again with Keita just like they did with VVD.

It has been made known that Keita wants to join Liverpool without Liverpool approaching Leipzig. End game for Liverpool = tapping up.

It will be best for Liverpool to move on from Keita. Obviously the club ain't learning and play with fire, you will get burned.

Why are FSG not putting an end to this matter? They need to show authority as the circus will be on display again at Anfield if this continues. Clear lack of leadership at the club!

It is too late for Liverpool to approach Leipzig now. They should have done it from the start instead of warming up to the player i. e. the same situation as VVD. FIFA will have a field day.

8.) 08 Jul 2017 09:27:29
Stop getting carried away with the tapping up stuff.
Mistakes have been made but the Keita deal is a typical transfer with us wanting the player and willing to pay what is required to secure his services. PSG want Coutinhio doesn't mean they tapping him up by declaring an interest and every player has a price tag these days it's how football is.

Mistakes were made with VVD but if he submits a transfer request then he will leave Southampton.

Everton didn't want to sell lukaku but Chelsea and united both went in with large offers, both bid the same fee but united played the smart move by tipping the agent more.

Keita wants the move so it will happen, no doubt about it.

9.) 08 Jul 2017 09:45:02
Redx what are you talking about? you make me want to bang my head against a wall.

You call this a mistake? no mate a mistake is when you step on somebodys toe, fart when somebodys eating, accidentally pop a kids balloon or send a text to the second misses when it was meant to be the other, not when you tap up a player, how is that a mistake? The club knew exactly what they were doing it's no mistake it's plain and simple stupid! No wonder we're getting carried away with it. Some of us care about the image of Liverpool.

I can't get my head about how some people can defend these actions, it NEVER happened before so why is it ok to do such things now? it's made us look disgraceful. What winds me up either more is comments like ' every club does it' no they dont! - there's a reason why we are the only ones in the news for it.

10.) 08 Jul 2017 09:48:17
Redx, it is laughable that you bring the Lukaku situation into this. Both Chelsea and UTD have made offers for Lukaku. That is the difference. There have been no stories flying about of Lukaku making it known that he wants to join UTD.

Liverpool have not even approached Leipzig yet Keita has spoken to his club about wanting to move to Liverpool.

You clearly do not understand the severity of the situation.

11.) 08 Jul 2017 10:05:22
Stop the daily obsession with Keita it's getting boring!

12.) 08 Jul 2017 10:30:38
I have never seen such an obsession on these pages over such a run of the mill player.

People talk about him like he is a seasoned veteran with 3 CL titles or something. There is absolutely no perspective here. The hype band wagon is fully loaded up with people convinced he is world class.

Maybe he is, or will be. However you only have to look at Leicester for plenty of examples as to why you don't pay big bucks for players after one good season in a mid table team. Chelsea took a £30m risk on Kante which paid off. Yet look at the likes of Kasper, Huth, Morgan, Drinkwater, Mahrez, King, Vardy etc. They were all lauded as top class players. Mahrez was apparently world class and there were talks of £80m bids from Barcelona! The same is currently happening with every Leipzig player. In reality, maybe one or two of their players are actually the meat, and the rest are just bone.

Keita may be the Kante of the team, who knows. But if even Kante was only valued at £30m after a stunning season in the Premier League in which he actually won the title, how is Keita worth double or as some reports suggest, triple that figure after a single season in which he failed to push his team on to the title?

It is clear Keita is a good player. Nobody can say how good though. It is purely speculation, prediction and assumption. He could be a Kante, or he could be a Drinkwater. If the figure was £30m I'd say take the punt. But £70-100m? And some people are trying to justify it? I'm still not buying it.

Then we have the cheek to laugh at United paying mega bucks for Pogba and Lukaku! Oh the irony.

Move on people. There are 1,000s of midfielders in Europe and I'm sure Keita is not the best option. Certainly not at the £100m RBLs chairman just suggested!

13.) 08 Jul 2017 11:41:18
Keita will sign.

Poker need to stop banging on about tapping up. It's is rife in football and other team sports. Part of business I'm afraid. Business isn't all sunshine and rainbows and if you think that it is then the world must be a very rosey place for you to live with your unicorn and pixies.

Even 'legitimate' deals have add ons, agent incentives and gifts. united and Chelsea bid the same figure for lukaku except the agent got a lot more from the united offer. so that's where his client is heading.

We have yet to be punished for any transfer outside our youth system and if it does come it shall be probably as severe as Ashley cole disgrace for Chelsea.

But until then pipe down about it all cos we will be signing Keita. possibly as early as next week. Let's support the lad and the team.

I agree with you MK about the price but this summer most transfers for teams in champions league will be inflated.

{Ed025's Note - tapping up is not "part of business" redx, its cheating and bribery and very wrong so dont try to condone it mate..

14.) 08 Jul 2017 11:50:10
Not condoning it but I'm not naive enough to think it's isolated to lfc.

{Ed002's Note - You are right - it is everybody else's fault. Pitiful.}

15.) 08 Jul 2017 11:59:55
Sorry ed are you saying that only LFC have ever done this or been accused? Liverpool have received no punishment besides the youth. Only prem team I can think of actually being severely punished for it is Chelsea.

Mark my words Keita will sign and no tapping up allegations will be made either so chill out. Boom.

{Ed025's Note - all im saying mate is that you dont want the name of LFC to be tainted any more than it is now and saying that other clubs act in this despicable way does not make it right..

16.) 08 Jul 2017 12:02:22
If it continues we deserve a ban. Maybe getting away with it so frequently hasn't taught us anything?

17.) 08 Jul 2017 12:09:10
Ed025 I agree with you 100% mate but RB have not and will not be making a complaint about Keita pal.

{Ed025's Note - maybe not redx, maybe more luck than judgement but i do agree with you that it should be dropped now as its getting repetitive..i would sooner concentrate on the players your not signing mate.. :)

18.) 08 Jul 2017 12:15:36
Hahah I agree Ed025, we can talk about left backs now!

{Ed002's Note - You need to understand that within European football Liverpool's behavior is worse than any other club. You clearly don't know anything of the Chelsea situation otherwise you would not have made such a stupid remark. You also seem to ignore the fact that a very significant fine was handed out to Everton for tapping up, and indeed that Liverpool are already serving one ban at the moment and have a pending court case that could have further repercussions. The last season the Liverpool were in Europe they faced more charges with UEFA than any other side. On two occasions the owners and the board have had to issue humiliating apologies to try and avoid charges - and one of those has not been withdrawn. Klopp deliberately unsettled players by taking several journalists aside and briefing them in order to deliberately unsettle the four targets he was sure he could sign this summer. Klopp made illegal and direct approaches to three of those players - that is tapping up. The club is not one of the "elite" European sides that meet a couple of times a year and plan the future - they are excluded from that. Certain clubs will not do business with Liverpool because of the way they behave. Liverpool need to sort their act out or they need to accept there are potentially very serious consequences. Right now they are bottom of the pile in European football.}

19.) 08 Jul 2017 12:15:36
Hahah I agree Ed025, we can talk about left backs now!

{Ed025's Note - yeah mate, robertson could be your marquee signing..i hope.. :)

20.) 08 Jul 2017 13:04:49
Hahah ed025 he will arrive I think as cover but who knows he may be the man for the job.

21.) 08 Jul 2017 13:58:37
I just don't know anymore, fans or so called fans are delusional.

22.) 08 Jul 2017 14:01:12
Hi Eds
Why is this kind of under the radar? I know it's done to death on here, but media wise you don't really see anything about tapping up. Obviously the VVD was well reported, but this has been going on for at lot longer. Just interested.

{Ed025's Note - because contrary to what people think on here its not that common mate, tapping up is quite serious and if the press get wind of it they are all over it like a bun on a boloni sandwitch, but most clubs play by the rules as far as im aware janmo..

23.) 08 Jul 2017 14:17:26
Thanks for the swift response. I find it really frustrating that all the hard work we have put in getting back into the champions league, and we could go in under cooked. If you want a player just put a decent bid in. Thanks great site.

{Ed025's Note - no worries mate..

24.) 08 Jul 2017 14:39:36
Teabag why is it delusional to think Keita will be a Liverpool player?

Enough people want to bad mouth Liverpool transfer activity on here yet RB have not and will not be making a complaint and Keita will sign for us.

all parties will be happy with the outcome.

{Ed002's Note - How do you know that they will not make a complaint. They don't wish to sell a player who Liverpool have illegally approached and tapped up. You are an idiot.}

25.) 08 Jul 2017 15:39:54
This is the longest repeat active thread I have seen on here for a while xD

I don’t see why we need to 'tap-up' players. But if we are that desperate and stupid why don’t we do it the smart way like Barca?
By this I mean Neymar has tried to convince Coutinho to join them and spoke to the press about him a lot.
We should get a player to do it then the club can be like "well he really likes him, not our fault" xD.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have already used a player to tap up others on behalf of the club - and not even players he knew. So that is worse.}

26.) 08 Jul 2017 20:21:29
Would be good but costs way too much.

27.) 08 Jul 2017 23:09:28
Every club that Mourinho managed tried to sign Gerrard.

On international duty Lampard and Terry were full time in his ear.

Fergie tried twice to sign him; same crack as above with Scholes and Neville in his ear.

Yap Stam told everyone in his book that Fergie had illegally approached him.
Thats why Fergie offloaded him.

The list could go on and on and not just transfers.

The russians doping scandle.

Look at Platini, Beckenbaur, Quatar The scams at Rangers involving players trusts.

The chairnan at Marseilles i think was jailed .

Even Ed mentioned about a champs league match that was suspicious.

I'd say there are many more as well but football is now big business and companies and clubs will try and do what they can to gain an advantage.

They all are guided by the 11th commandment.

28.) 09 Jul 2017 16:24:11
Thanks for the reply ed002 I didn’t even realize that xD
Seriously how stupid are we? If you are going to tap players up with other players, DO IT RIGHT (or just not at all) ridiculous how stupid we are with transfers

I get that the whole of football is corrupt but most teams/ managers/ players stop and stay low once in the limelight, yet we just carry on doing it like nothing bad will happen -. -.

29.) 10 Jul 2017 11:25:28
I might be miss remembering this but didn't the FA .................




24 Jun 2017 10:42:38
Ed002, any interest from Liverpool for Gaetan Laborde?


{Ed002's Note - I don't know of Liverpool interest in Gaetan Laborde. He is seen as a very average striker in France and there is a different Bordeaux player that Liverool has been keen on. Laborde is far from a regular goalscorer.}

1.) 24 Jun 2017 11:02:18
Is that Malcolm? Do we look like making an offer?

{Ed002's Note - Malcom - there has been a lot of interest from Liverpool.}

2.) 24 Jun 2017 11:03:13
Malcolm I assume Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Malcom.}

3.) 24 Jun 2017 11:04:19
Thanks Ed002.

4.) 24 Jun 2017 11:11:59
"Course you can Malcom! "
See how many oldies remember that line.

{Ed001's Note - I am obviously too young.....}

5.) 24 Jun 2017 12:18:58
Sadly I do . Vicks sinex.

6.) 24 Jun 2017 12:39:28
My dad still says it now! Im sure he would have preferred me to be called Malcolm.

7.) 24 Jun 2017 13:10:44
I don't know much about Malcom, but was he another alternative to the left winger? If so, the interest in this window must surely be gone now with the deal for Salah, am i right?

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't think that Klopp would keep looking for more players in that position but given he will be playing at least one out of position then maybe. Or maybe he is interested in a striker who struggles for goals?}

8.) 24 Jun 2017 13:13:01
And me too.

9.) 24 Jun 2017 13:40:03
Malcom as left back. LOL.

10.) 24 Jun 2017 19:45:24
Gaetan Laborde? Sounds like the name of a drag act!
I still believe that Bobby Firmino will remain as our preferred striking option, with Sturridge and Solanke as back up/ cup players. I don't think Klopp really needs much more up front, he just needs to sort out the defence.



07 Jun 2017 17:38:08
Ed002, know of anything about the rumour of Sturridge being offered to Newcastle?


{Ed002's Note - I don't but Newcastle have already reached agreement to take a striker on loan.}

1.) 07 Jun 2017 17:52:38
Th Young st from Chelsea I'm I right.

{Ed002's Note - Abraham.}



05 Jun 2017 18:09:57
This could be the season where Liverpool smash the budget into pieces to once and for all get back to the top.

Scary stuff but if that is what the club is planning on doing then us fans will just go with the flow.

I just wonder who the club tends on seeing going as the figures we are about to spend will have to see more than one current players on their way. Let's hope it ain't Coutinho.


1.) 05 Jun 2017 18:40:22
I'm not concerned with the earlier fees at all as the game has somewhat changed, not just for us but the Premier League. The influx of TV money in the premier league, on top of the additional revenue we will provided by the Champions League (if we qualify) has me fairly chill about this issue. Don't think the club would also sign a CB and LW to cope with the departure of PC and we've been surprisingly quiet this summer with regards to 'Number 10' rumours.

2.) 05 Jun 2017 18:50:22
Likely to be: Sakho, Lucas, Stewart, Markovich, Moreno.

Personally also wouldn't be overly surprised by any one (s) of: Sturridge, Ojo, Ward, Ings, Klavan, Gomez, Milner, Coutinho (😩)

3.) 05 Jun 2017 19:09:23
Say with the likely there puzzled would raise £50 million to pay VVDs fee and the saving of wages. I'd like to see Ward, Gomez and Ings loaned out for fitness and experience. I'd like Sturridge and Couts stay. I do like Milner and he should stay as a good squad player but I think he will want 1st team action so may leave.

4.) 05 Jun 2017 19:10:46
I do not believe many understand how club finaces work. We earned massively the previous seasons from TV revenue and still Liverpool ended up making a significant loss in the last financials.

The new training facility will have to see Liverpool making up the numbers financially elsewhere. Increasing the wage bill considerably with the arrivals of VVD and Salah will punish the club.

You do understand that the wage bill makes up majority of Liverpool's spend each season? Therefore adding over £300k a week to our current wage bill 3rd highest in the League will have to see some of the current crop leave.

Transfer fees not the main issue as they get paid over a period, not in one go.

Lallana, Firmino, Mane and Gini can all play number ten. Even Salah.

5.) 05 Jun 2017 18:55:10
Gomez loan
Origi maybe in January
Wilson loan

Should be around £100m. So if all goes to plan we might still get a left back and one other. Happy days.

6.) 05 Jun 2017 19:30:41
Mark, it does not matter what we will be selling players for. The transfer fees we receive will not be paid in one go to us. We are probably some way off before Bournemouth finish paying for Ibe. Just like Suarez was only paid up by Barcelona this past season.

Our wage bill though is something which sees the club accounts with an exit of funds every week. Add VVD and Salah to the current bill, you can be rest assured that there will have to be quite a few exits in the summer, especially if we are planning on adding more players.




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31 May 2018 18:12:59
I still see some posters asking what our transfer budget is?

Please understand one thing, if a player for instance cost £60m then the club will not pay over the whole £60m in one go. The transfer fee get worked over repayments.

So in order for a club to know whether they can afford a player it will be the transfer fee over x amount of time to the club the player was purchased from plus the wages etc paid to the player over his contract.

Just because we sold Coutinho for a tremendous amount does not mean that Barcelona have paid all his transfer fee over to us in one payment. It will be paid over x amount of time.

So please, forget about budgets and transfer fees for players. If you see us signing a new GK at £100m then please understand that the club is not going to pay over £100m at once. It does not work that way. If that is the way transfers worked then just about every club will be bankrupt.


1.) 31 May 2018 18:30:39
Not being pedantic but I think some transfers may get paid for all in one go, in fact that may have happened durring the deal that sold Torres and brought Carroll to us. Could be wrong but I don't think it's as cut and dried as you think in every case.

2.) 31 May 2018 19:07:55
Most transfers are paid off over a period of time nowadays. I think because of our mess with vvd we paid all upfront. The ffp is 3 year rolling so it's changed how most teams pay for transfers. That being said 2 straight seasons qualifying for CL should allow us greater funds and I think with a few players leaving this summer our wage bill will allow us to offer better contracts to compete with our rivals. I hope we can get some good deals from players we no longer want.

3.) 31 May 2018 18:41:08
OMG johnny, there are isolated incidents, but these incidents of full payment are extremely rare.

If Liverpool had paid up every transfer fee in full since FSG arrived the club would have been owned by the banks by now.

Again, forget about budgets and transfer fees.

4.) 31 May 2018 18:44:53
VVD was paid in one go, well certainly £70m to Southampton, due to us mucking around earlier in the year. We also paid the agent fee and his signing on fee in one go too.

We only have received, conversely, around €24m of the Coutinho fee so far (I think, Ed002 said yesterday in a thread and I think I have the figures right) .

{Ed002's Note - Correct, and don’t forget the additional £19M paid in respect ov the VVD transfer.}

5.) 31 May 2018 19:29:48
The paid the full amount for VVD in one go.

6.) 31 May 2018 19:37:40
Think Ed002 alluded to us increasing borrowings the other day so we shouldn't just assume that our CL 'success' is funding a huge spree.

7.) 31 May 2018 19:22:20
Payment for player fees over periods of time has been long in existence. Evidence of this was when Portsmouth were caught out for owing long overdue payments on player purchases all those years back.

Anyone that thinks transfer fees as a norm gets paid in full are clearly living in La La Land. Can you go buy 5 new cars and pay cash upfront for all of them in one sum then also maintain them every month?

This is why the Ed's refuse to discuss money lol.

8.) 31 May 2018 19:45:52
Each transfer is different. Read when 002 posts. For example, Southampton have received something Iike 70m for V Dijk whereas we have received only 24m so far for Coutinho.

9.) 31 May 2018 19:47:18
Not the point Maxlfc, your statement - paragraph 2 specifically - made it sound as if it doesn't happen but we know it does e. g. VVD (which I wasn't aware of) .

10.) 31 May 2018 19:57:51
Isolated incidents which are very rare.

I think I explained myself perfectly in my original post that if transfer fees were based on paying the full amount upfront, then most clubs = bankrupt.

Whether we paid in full for VVD or not, it was LFC's own doinmg due to the fact that we illegally approached the player but still wanted him afterwards.

If LFC would have paid money upfront for each and every transfer made going back since when then LFC would not exist today. I am not an accountant but do not have to explain such facts to you Johnny. So again I will repeat myself, forget about budgets and transfer fees being paid upfront. Simple.

11.) 31 May 2018 20:04:34
Max you say let's forget about transfer budgets and fees and then go on to talk about them yourself thus causing a debate. So do you want us to forget about them or talk about them. I'm confused.

12.) 31 May 2018 20:56:33
Actually I AM an accountant - for my sins - so didn't really need the concept of asset amortisation/ depreciation explaining. Assets in this case being players and their contracts of course. The point was that some fees ARE paid in one lump, however rarely, and even where they aren't they probably all differ wildly in payment terms, little of which we mere supporters are actually party to.

{Ed002's Note - There are rules governing what can and whatever cannot be done.}

13.) 31 May 2018 21:14:23
"The point was that some fees ARE paid in one lump"

The exception rather than the rule.

My point is and it is a massive issue is that some people see 7 new players arriving in one window and are under the impression that the fees are paid in full for each player when they see the media reporting £15m for the first player, £30m for the second player, £25m for the third player, £70m for the 4th player etc equaling to £250m paid upfront in one lump sum for all purchases in that window.

LFC would simply not be able to afford such expenditure and anyone who thinks LFC can is simply the reason why the Ed's do not discuss money. End of.

14.) 31 May 2018 21:38:59
Rubbish max. It's all down to the selling team how they want paying mate.

15.) 31 May 2018 22:19:35
This is a great thread 👍.



09 May 2018 21:00:28
So anyone watching Chelsea vs Huddersfield match?

You see, this is the ironic part. Chelsea controlled the game vs LFC. LFC tried to win and failed.

Now Chelsea are trying to play football against a relegation threatend team who are controlling the game :-)

The one thing I am certain of, Klopp does not go onto the pitch to lose or draw. Yes the match is still not over but to see Conte struggling to to get his team to play football vs Huddersfield, which is exactly what he did against LFC when we were not even in control of the match is just laughable.


1.) 09 May 2018 21:22:00
Nice one, Max.



05 May 2018 03:18:41
Been a while since I posted.

What an amazing season we have had!

Read through a whole lot of negative comments after reaching the final and still cannot understand why?

We need one more win to secure a spot in the top 4. Our goal difference is far superior than Chelsea's.

We play absolute mind blowing football too. I do not believe their is a team that can touch us when we are at our best. We have even improved at the back.

Before anyone wants to start giving Karius stick for conceding 6 goals over two legs vs Roma, Alisson who has been held in high regard conceded 7.

I demand entertaining football and Klopp is without a doubt providing that and now has taken us to a final in the biggest competition in club football. In +- 2.5 years that is definitely proof that we are going places especially when you consider the state the team was in when Klopp first took over.

Just a little patience required.



1.) 05 May 2018 06:35:17
Agreed, people were wetting themselves on here when we were linked with Allison yet all 7 goals he let in against us were from open play. 2 of theirs against us were pens which most keepers never stop and one was one of the strangest own goals I’ve seen for years. Karius looks a half decent keeper to me, If Allison is worth the £ figures being quoted then I think our money is better spent elsewhere.

2.) 05 May 2018 07:05:37
Karius palmed the second straight out to Dzeko on Wednesday and watched Naingollans first goal go in. Not a clue what he was doing there? Alisson didn’t cover himself in glory over the 2 legs but looked the better keeper to me.
This is in no way digging out Karius just my view Alisson was the better keeper over the 2 legs. Karius almost made a balls up in the first leg from Kolarovs speculative long range effort.
I think Karius has improved a lot in his second stint as first choice and he’s probably earnt the right to keep the jersey for next season. I am however not 100% convinced with him and if a top keeper becomes available I would go for one. If the likes of Butland and Navas are being considered I would stick with Karius.

3.) 05 May 2018 07:09:51
And so the Larius love-in continues. all the excuses come flowing out: De Gea was crap in his first season, Allison conced 7 and Karius only conceded 6, Mignolet makes loads of mistakes, the defence has been better since he came in. Let’s look at those points more clearly. Karius is just coming to the end of his 2nd season while De Gea had well sussed the Premiership by then, Allison wasn’t at fault with any of the goals while Karius was and got lucky on 2 other occasions, so what if he’s better than Mogs neither are good enough and, as for the improvement in the defence I’ll say 2 words - Van Dijk sand Robertson.

Karius has improved I admit but is still not there for me. His decision making is poor on whether to come or stay and he needs to improve that massively. Top managers realise how important good keeper is. Hence Clough paying big for Peter Shelton and Rafa upgrading an already good keeper in Dudek with a better one in Reina.

4.) 05 May 2018 07:26:51
Karius is just not good enough. Too many mistakes and I am never confident when he plays. A new keeper is a must if we want to challenge for the league.
Allison looked good to me but I can't see us going for him, I do think that we will get someone, probably a surprise name.

5.) 05 May 2018 07:42:37
Great post Max, good to see you back mate!

6.) 05 May 2018 08:21:16
The thing that worries me the most was that had it not been for a linesman's flag Karius could/ should have been sent off and us down to 10 men in a CL semi. All because of bad decision making.

{Ed001's Note - it would have been a booking and a pen, not a red. The rules were changed for this season to stop what was seen as a double punishment.}

7.) 05 May 2018 08:53:17
It’s been the law since 2016,they say the penalty is now enough punishment although if the pen is missed it sure the opposition would disagree. I could be wrong but I think the refs can still send the keeper off if they believe they made no attempt to challenge for the ball fairly.

8.) 05 May 2018 09:00:38
Ed01 I'd love to agree with your there mate. But with the Refs performace on wed night I wouldn't have been surprised to have seen a red card as well. Actually it wouldn't have surprised me if he pulled out a green card and a clowns nose.

{Ed001's Note - fair point, but the point is that you were talking about what would have happened if the correct decision was given mate. I was just pointing out that would have been no offside and a yellow, rather than a red. Though I would not have been surprised at any decision that set of officials made, they were as abysmal as Pallotta is whiny.}

9.) 05 May 2018 09:21:06
Ed01 appreciate the insight mate and I was just jesting with you. To be honest I was actually unaware of that rule change until I think I read it on here after Karius did it against Palace and I totally forgot about it on my first comment.

{Ed001's Note - it is an easy one to forget and no worries I wasn't getting wound up or anything. It is one of the few changes that have come about in recent years that I think is a good one. It is not that often they change laws of the game and you can immediately see a benefit from them.}

10.) 05 May 2018 09:52:02
All these guys who are better judges of players than Klopp.
A few will be crying in their beer next season when Karius is still in goals for us.

11.) 05 May 2018 11:05:55
Allison is a very good GK and is better than Karius right now. He is more experienced, and more fundamentally sound. That does not remove from the fact that Karius simply outplayed him, IMO. Karius claimed every cross that came his way, was in more command of his area and more vocal and made saves to keep on in the tie in both legs. Allison on the other hand, was jittery, a flapper, and dithered on the ball a few times and actually tried to dribble Salah twice in Rome. Had Karius done even have of all this, we would have run him out of town and rightfully so.

However, Karius still should have done better with the non pen call cos Dzeko was going nowhere (toward the touch line) and should have read the ball better. As for the palming of the ball, he should have punched instead of palming it to get more distance on it. Dzeko just happened to be there so it is not as if he saw him there and palmed it to him. All in all, Karius has led us to a CL final, has 6/ 7 clean sheets and him conceding 6 is a misnomer cos bot where pens, one was an own goal and the other was so accurate that it hit both posts and went in. That's 4 goals right there you can't blame him for, IMO.

12.) 05 May 2018 12:12:08
Was thinking the other day about all the ups and downs we had and at one point people not happy with team or Klopp. Instead of a match review it would be bloody hilarious if you could do a post review Ed on different members.

Just for a bit of fun. Or get the posters to nominate 3 for you to do. Football is so much mixed emotions so would be funny for different opinions but also may make us think twice about silly posts as we may get nominated following year 😂.

{Ed001's Note - I don't remember what people say mate so there would be no way of doing so. I have forgotten what I said within seconds, let alone what someone else said!}

13.) 05 May 2018 12:16:36
To be honest neither keeper covered themselves in glory over the 2 legs. It was the first time I've seen Allison play live and I wasn't impressed and Karius probably had 2 of his poorest games for us since taking over no 1.

14.) 05 May 2018 12:21:49
Im not so sure that history will record the season Karius led us to a CL final. Salah, perhaps, but not Karius.
Hes reached a decent level since joining us but im still unconvinced he's the answer in goal. Id like to see him get a full run out next season to see if he builds on his experiences and improves.

15.) 05 May 2018 20:05:35
RLRL, you're right. "Led" is not the word needed. I meant to say "help". Karius leads the CL in clean sheets and that is to his credit and that of the team.

Jay, I disagree. Karius has had poorer games than in both Roma games. In the first leg, he misjudged a swerving shot and STILL got his hands on it and diverted it to the post. In the second leg, I agree he should never have done better and should never have gone that far on the Dzeko play and should have punched the shot instead of palming it so as to get more distance. Having said that, he flapped at NO crosses in both games, commanded his area, very vocal and made good saves vs Schick, Strootman (first leg) and Dzeko, Ungiz in the second leg. The kid is young and will improve. Just my opinion, man.



17 Mar 2018 19:25:06
Utter domination. Robertson has made LB his position. He is thriving.

Emre Can, let me just say that we are not going to miss him once Keita arrives.

Salah, Salah, Salah. What more can one say.

What a goal from Firmino and how much better is our midfield with Henderson calling the shots?

Karius although he had not much to do has definitely brought calmness to our back 4. Van Dijk just needs the perfect partner.

3 points, clean sheet and 5 goals.

The only way is up!


1.) 17 Mar 2018 19:53:54
Thought hendo was top notch today. Was given a lot of space though! But can't take away from the top performance, Ings looks so sharp.

2.) 17 Mar 2018 20:46:00
I won't miss Can either. Too slow on and off the ball.

I'm a big Hendo fan but he had good and bad patches today. Maybe fitness related?

Still my favourite midfielder of ours.



11 Mar 2018 15:27:50
We have two very big games remaining, Everton and Chelsea, both away. Rest we are up against the relegation battle teams.

We have 4 games left at home so 12 points from those 4 = 72 points total which normally is a good number in order to finish 4th.

We are also 4 points ahead of Chelsea so the pressure is on them, not us to get ahead.

Obviously it is not as simple as we will be playing bottom teams who will be more than happy with one point.

Our form has been really good and we have only lost 4 all season in the EPL. Less than Chelsea, UTD and Spurs.

We just need to take it game by game fellow Reds.

It is not a matter of life to finish 2nd but what we do need to do is finish top 4 which is looking to be the case at this point.


1.) 11 Mar 2018 15:36:29
Right now the next game is the only one that matters - we need to win it and get 3 points, that should be the only focus.

2.) 11 Mar 2018 15:57:14
True Seano that's how I'm looking at it as well. It's going to be a long week though, next Saturday can't come quick enough, I just want to see us win again and more positive vibes.

3.) 11 Mar 2018 16:03:38
Don't look too far ahead Max the next game is all that matters. It is a must win.

4.) 11 Mar 2018 16:21:12
Finishing second means extra TV money which is not bad. Finishing second also means we made progress from last year. It also means you get a runners up medal. Let’s hope our front three doesn’t pick up any injuries or else we are pants!

5.) 11 Mar 2018 16:52:07
Agreed with Harry. It's a shame we won't get second as that would have been vast improvement.
I've just got a hunch that spurs and Chelsea will pip us in the league and we will have Thursday night football.
Let's hope we can go on a run and get 3rd which I guess is an improvement.

6.) 11 Mar 2018 17:13:15
Surely making it to the 1/ 4 finals of the CL is massive progress?

Finishing 2nd or 4th really does not make any difference as 2nd still gets you 2nd. Boo hoo if you get a runners up medal. Means bugger all. Both 2nd and 4th get you automatic qualification into the group stages of the CL.

Qualifying another season for CL surely is progress especially if you look back at years gone by. It is not like anyone had as bang on to win the EPL this season so not sure what some fans were expecting.

7.) 11 Mar 2018 16:57:15
Also we’re currently 7 points ahead of Chelsea 😉. Don’t count any point until it’s been earned!

8.) 11 Mar 2018 18:39:30
Given results this weekend I’d forget about second an concentrate on finishing fourth. Just saying.

9.) 11 Mar 2018 19:56:25
AJH - why don’t you pop over to the Man City page and tell them what position they should be concentrating on

Just saying like 😂.

10.) 11 Mar 2018 20:52:15

This CL progression is a lame excuse! We were grouped in the most easiest group in the group stages! It’s not like we beat Real and Barcelona to progres! We were actually poor against the only inform Sevilla! Porto are crap! If you want to measure then we ll see who we play in the QF’s.

11.) 11 Mar 2018 20:54:26
OOps, forgot they played yesterday.

Move along, nothing to see here 🙈😂😂.

12.) 11 Mar 2018 21:56:52
Harry, And how is that LFC's problem that we got an easy CL group? Utd got as easy a group (if not worse) than we did this season and still lost to Basel while parking the bus while we went undefeated, breaking all types of records for goals scored for English teams.
Utd got an easy ride thru out the EL last season and they won and you'll never find me using that as an excuse to berate them and downgrade that achievement. Porto are NOT crap as they are walking their league undefeated and we put 5 past them, fact w/ o breaking a sweat. I know you find ways of downplaying our success by any means necessary BUT you are wrong here.

Making the CL quarters this season under Klopp is indeed progress
judging by the fact that the incompetent BR could not get out of a group containing the mighty Basel and the relentless Ludogurets and to me, 2nd, 3rd or 4th is the same cos CL is CL, end of story esp. with the way City are playing and blowing teams away every week. EXCEPT for a certain team currently coached by Jurgen Klopp.




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31 Jan 2018 17:09:11
Good old Chinese takeover of LFC rumours.

FSG will not sell now unless they want to lose all their investment.




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29 Jan 2018 16:48:47
My word, what is it with fans who do not understand that it was Coutinho who pushed for the move? How difficult is that to understand? LFC did not want to sell Coutinho but unfortunately Coutinho made it clear he wanted to go.

Liverpool resisted last summer but unfortunately one cannot hang onto to a player who would have caused major uproar again if Liverpool did not allow him to go to Barcelona in this window.

And how many times do the EDS need to drill it into thick sculls that the club will only buy first choice players from now on i. e. only no 1 targets on and that there will be no panic buys in this window.

Get it? i. e. if the no 1 targets are not available or do not make sense financially in this window i. e. paying a very massive premium to bring Keita in earlier then the club will wait for the summer.

Lessons have been learned through the VVD deal. The club can no longer act like amateurs in the transfer market.

So please stop spitting the dummy out as it is unlikely any new additions will be arriving due to availability or ridiculous asking prices in the January window.

Moaners will have to keep their panties on until the summer.




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16 Jan 2018 16:25:53
That is exactly the problem. Mignolet is on a very lucrative contract and most clubs will snub him because of that.

So it will either be Liverpool who takes the knock or Mignolet becoming desperate and makes some tough decisions.

He might do well in the Serie A? Many GK's do.




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15 Jan 2018 19:17:57
Well, Sporting will get a massive pay day letting Martins leave and must be what they are aiming for.


{Ed002's Note - They are not looking to sell right now.}



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15 Jan 2018 17:57:45
Clyne will be moved on as soon as he has found someone who is interested.

Gomez and TAA have proven to be better options anyway.





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31 May 2018 21:14:23
"The point was that some fees ARE paid in one lump"

The exception rather than the rule.

My point is and it is a massive issue is that some people see 7 new players arriving in one window and are under the impression that the fees are paid in full for each player when they see the media reporting £15m for the first player, £30m for the second player, £25m for the third player, £70m for the 4th player etc equaling to £250m paid upfront in one lump sum for all purchases in that window.

LFC would simply not be able to afford such expenditure and anyone who thinks LFC can is simply the reason why the Ed's do not discuss money. End of.




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31 May 2018 20:55:55
If Klopp really wanted Butland then a deal would have been done already?

Mignolet still at the club so I guess it will depend on whether we can move him on otherwise signing Butland would be pointless then we would be sitting with Karius likely as number one, Mignolet and Butland on healthy wages as competition.

Does not make sense does it.

Would rather stick with Karius as number 1 as we will then have two high earning GK's in Mignolet and Butland fighting for the second spot. Does not make sense does it?

Much will depend on moving on Mignolet in my opinion. If we do move Mignolet on then I doubt we will go after Butland. If we do not move Mignolet on the Karius will continue as no 1 in my honest opinion.




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31 May 2018 19:57:51
Isolated incidents which are very rare.

I think I explained myself perfectly in my original post that if transfer fees were based on paying the full amount upfront, then most clubs = bankrupt.

Whether we paid in full for VVD or not, it was LFC's own doinmg due to the fact that we illegally approached the player but still wanted him afterwards.

If LFC would have paid money upfront for each and every transfer made going back since when then LFC would not exist today. I am not an accountant but do not have to explain such facts to you Johnny. So again I will repeat myself, forget about budgets and transfer fees being paid upfront. Simple.




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31 May 2018 19:22:20
Payment for player fees over periods of time has been long in existence. Evidence of this was when Portsmouth were caught out for owing long overdue payments on player purchases all those years back.

Anyone that thinks transfer fees as a norm gets paid in full are clearly living in La La Land. Can you go buy 5 new cars and pay cash upfront for all of them in one sum then also maintain them every month?

This is why the Ed's refuse to discuss money lol.




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31 May 2018 18:45:48
Well with Fabinho arriving, I geuss we can scratch Ceballos off the list.