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06 Mar 2017 18:49:19
So latest news via the Liverpool Echo

"Liverpool’s wage bill rocketed by 25% as it passed the £200 million mark for the first time. "

"The Reds shelled out £208,258,000 on salaries for players and staff for the 12 months up to May 31 2016 - more than Premier League rivals Manchester City (£198m) and Arsenal (£195m) . "

"That represents a hefty increase on the previous year when Liverpool’s wage bill was £166,085,000. The details are included in the club’s accounts which have now been filed at Companies House. "

So to end of with that news, anyone accusing the club of not spending money along with the other blah blah blah vitriol towards FSG when the club made a £20m pre tax loss need to put a sock in it now when they say FSG are only here to make money off the club. If the club makes a loss, the owners pockets take the hit.

Moving on.

So here is what I reckon Klopp will do this summer,

The club tried to move on Clyne last summer and was why Clyne was so furious during the summer window. Believe the club will make attempts to move Clyne on again along with Sakho, Lucas, Markovic, Bogdan, Sturridge and possibly Ings. There could very well be another clear out in the academy for those who have no future to make space for other youngsters trying to break through. If Mignolet does go then I cannot see Klopp signing another keeper. Ward will be made no 2.

I doubt anymore midfielders will be added even with the departure of Lucas. Klopp still has Grujic who has to play regularly next season due to his work permit requirements. Ed002 has said the club do not have intentions to move on either Can or Stewart . Then we still have Lallana, Wijnaldum and Henderson plus academy players. Milner is another who can play in midfield. We are well and truly stocked in this department. More midfielders will have to leave along with Lucas in order to add more CM’s which will be explained in the very last paragraph of my post.
Two new fullbacks will be signed, TAA, Moreno and Milner as backups. Another forward with pace and trickery, another CB and that will be it in my humble opinion.

Our wage bill will have to be reduced considerably before Klopp decides to go crazy in the market otherwise Liverpool could be looking at running at a loss again in the next financial results. If we do not qualify for CL then having one of the highest wage bills in the League could end up spelling trouble ahead and pretty sure Ed002 will agree regarding LFC's wage bill.


1.) 06 Mar 2017 19:02:05
God howd that even possible.

Behind ahead of city.

2.) 06 Mar 2017 21:22:41
Thank god your not Klopp . Moving on clyne lol.

3.) 07 Mar 2017 02:42:13
yea I agree on the money thing. to me it's not really the amount of money spent, but more about getting the right structures and the right people in to use that money in the best way possible.

4.) 07 Mar 2017 14:13:52
Obviously you only watch motd then matip. Clyne is awful.

5.) 07 Mar 2017 16:56:31
It is true that the club/ Klopp wanted to move on Clyne last summer Matip is Boss. Ed002 last summer confirmed that Clyne was not a happy man when the club was offering him around.

6.) 08 Mar 2017 05:26:47
I will say this, Klopp hit both his big money buys, Matip was a good pickup, Klavan is what he's been brought to be and that is be serviceable, with only Karius being a question mark. If Klopp can pull off another summer like that, we are going to be in a good spot.

I think Klopp will go for a veteran premier league keeper, thinking Schmichel, Heaton,

Any updates on Saed Kolasanic Eds?

7.) 08 Mar 2017 07:01:01
I like Heaton. and I really liked Butland before the injury. I think Butland may have better ball distribution too but it remains to see what he's like after the injury.

I wonder if Cresswell (West Ham) has ever been considered as a LB?



02 Mar 2017 19:57:57
Ed002, do PSG still have an interest in Coutinho? I think it is fair to say that Liverpool need to start keeping their best players and build around them. Hoping Coutinho stays but fear he may decide to leave if another opportunity arises.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any change in the situation Max.}

1.) 02 Mar 2017 20:12:00
Ed002, do you believe Coutinho will leave? Obviously the summer window is not here yet but I have a sinking feeling about this.

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}



15 Feb 2017 17:57:58
Hi Ed002, quick question if I may. Do Juventus have a serious interest in Emre Can?


{Ed002's Note - No Max.}

1.) 15 Feb 2017 18:06:39
Thanks Ed002.



04 Feb 2017 14:02:59
Starting lineup:

Mignolet, Clyne, Lucas, Matip, Milner, Henderson, Can, Lallana, Coutinho, Mane, Firmino

Subs: Karius, Gomez, Moreno, Alexander-Arnold, Wijnaldum, Origi, Sturridge

Dejan Lovren and Ragnar Klavan miss today's game due to a knee injury and illness respectively.


1.) 04 Feb 2017 14:35:28
why is can in in front Wijnaldum?

2.) 04 Feb 2017 17:02:57
all this dropping players is wrong.

3.) 04 Feb 2017 17:10:43
Just when is Klopps plan B envelope going to be opened? . 10 men behind the ball and liverpool don't know what to do.

4.) 04 Feb 2017 18:18:33
what is wrong with old fashioned 442 in games like this from the start getting 2 upfront we do not need extra men in the middle when teams are just seating back.

5.) 04 Feb 2017 18:57:33
Spot on, Grino. Something needs to be done ASAP cos we are practicing insanity right now, doing the same things and expecting different results. We know what these teams will do to us YET we play the same way, leaving ourselves exposed for counter attacks. Why are we playing two holding mids vs bus parkers?

Can is having a rough time yet plays ahead of Wiji who is in form and scored last game? Might as well play a 442 or 442 diamond or just do something cos we are blowing this season, we`re blowing it.

6.) 04 Feb 2017 21:18:22
As much as I agree with the sentiment that there is no plan b, we are not only NOT playing with 2 holding mids, we don't even play with 1. Hendo plays as a deep lying playmaker and whoever the other 2 are selected, play in front of him. No holding mid at all, in reality. Lots of other things to question and moan about, but this is just inaccurate, for those who actually watch and understand the game.



03 Feb 2017 19:29:54
Ed002, do you believe Sturridge is on his way out in the summer and Ings was subject to some bids last summer. Is there still interest in Ings from clubs?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest in Ingsbut I do think DS will be moving on this summer Max.}

1.) 04 Feb 2017 12:50:42
If DS moves to another prom club he will come back to haunt Liverpool.

2.) 04 Feb 2017 13:30:03
Thank you for the reply Ed002.

Love this site!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

3.) 05 Feb 2017 23:11:30
Studge is haunting us already. He's just not the player he was in 2014.

4.) 11 Feb 2017 15:40:12
How will DS come back to haunt us? He's on good money sitting on the bench and has shown no real form since Suarez left. More likely to score an injury as a goal. If we can make a few quid and get his wages off the wage bill then why not?




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21 Mar 2017 07:49:38
Interesting about Chris Coleman saying that Woodburn has done enough to deserve a call up to the Wales squad.

Klopp said he was expecting a call from Coleman and probably wanted reasons why he would want to throw such a young player into the deep end who has hardly featured at the highest level.

The last thing we want is for Woodburn to all of a sudden get a big ego because now he is already being selected for his national team without even being anywhere close to being a regular for Liverpool. Just hope things do not go tits up for Woodburn as he is one of our brightest prospects.


1.) 21 Mar 2017 12:03:13
He's being called up for Wales, not Brazil to be fair mate, if that goes to his head and messes up his career then it would suggest to me he didn't have the mental strength to make it with us anyway.

2.) 21 Mar 2017 12:34:23
Lol mikey, I was thinking the same thing. He might get 10 mins and it will be good experience for him. It's not like he's the pinnacle of a world class international team. Half their players don't even play in the PL.

3.) 21 Mar 2017 12:48:23
I disagree, Mikey. It doesn't matter who he's called up by. Klopp is right to take care of his player and Coleman can always call up who he wants. Klopp just needs reassurances as to how he will be Woodburn will be used and if it is even worth it. Both managers are right to do what they are doing cos in the end, they both want what's best for the player. The player doesn't know what's best for him at this stage so they have a right to step in and manage him, carefully.

4.) 21 Mar 2017 12:50:12
They might not have a team world class stars but they went pretty far in the euros which can't be said about some other supposedly world class teams.

5.) 21 Mar 2017 13:34:59
Exactly farno, it's a good spirited side with team being the core of what they do. It's not full of divas with big heads.

6.) 21 Mar 2017 13:56:46
Woodburn will be ok in the Wales squad because the Welsh players will make sure he keeps his feet firmly on the ground. There is not one big ego in the whole squad, even the player who was a world record signing.

7.) 21 Mar 2017 14:57:34
If I could choose the country that Woodburn would play for, then Wales would be my choice, see how Bale fits in, see how they don't play too many games, and they have a very good young manager, also he won't be travelling as many miles as the Brazil lads .

8.) 21 Mar 2017 19:08:02
The lad should be able to proudly represent his national team . It can only do his confidence good rather than being sat on the sidelines. Rather than it being a negative it may just inspire the lad to work even harder and be more determined to break into our first team. Honestly some folks are just negative Nancy's.



20 Mar 2017 06:35:47
3 points would have been better but I will take 1 point at this stage away to City any day of the week. Very chuffed with our performance and the result.

Spurs still need to play Chelsea away, Arsenal at home and UTD at home.

City still have Arsenal away, Chelsea away and Leicester at home.

UTD have Everton at home, Chelsea at home, Arsenal away and Spurs away.

I believe the remaining fixtures rule in our favour but we know how the bottom half teams get the better of us.

The team we need to watch out for is Everton. They have to come to Anfield though and still have UTD away, Leicester at home, Chelsea at home and Arsenal away.

Top 4 place is now ours to lose as we are in a very good position to qualify for CL next season. Time for Klopp and the players to stand up and be counted and the City result proves that this team has the ability to compete with the best. This coming summer will be one of the most important windows yet. 4-5 quality additions and we will be a force to be reckoned with.


1.) 20 Mar 2017 07:14:10
also city will meet united.

2.) 20 Mar 2017 08:03:19
So what does everyone reckon will be the points tally required to finish 4th this season?

Looking at the fixtures left for each team fighting for a top 4 place I would say 70 points gets 4th.

We therefore need another 14 points from a possible 27. We will only require 1.56 points per game. We have 5 home games remaining. We are currently going at 1.93 points per game and continue at that rate which will see us ending on 73 points.

We are within touching distance. Fingers crossed!

3.) 20 Mar 2017 09:35:36
But you realise our issue is against teams who sit back and give us no space behind! The teams left for us all play such deep defensive football 😄.

4.) 20 Mar 2017 09:38:18
Spurs have played Chelsea home and away this season. Only Arsenal and Utd left to play at home and haven't lost all season at home.

5.) 20 Mar 2017 12:31:11
Yeah, my bad, the CHE vs Spurs is the FA Cup semi.

Still, they are going to be without Harry Kane for at least another 7 weeks.

6.) 20 Mar 2017 12:50:49
Still convinced we'll finish second.
Man Utd.

7.) 20 Mar 2017 13:51:54
You sure Gmac. Im confident Liverpool won't finish second and United won't finish sixth. Im even up for a bet!

8.) 20 Mar 2017 20:43:10
Guys I think that we need to remember that things are tight at the bottom as well meaning that teams will be forced to play for a result rather than look to draw games. We play a few teams who are desperate for a win due to their position . Teams won't just sit back at some point they will attack . We ned to be patient and take our chances when they come . We as supporters need to believe in the potential of our team . that's all we can do really . Our destiny lies in our own hands . Call me idealist but if you believe it you can achieve it . Just my opinion chaps, feel free to disagree.

{Ed002's Note - If "things are tight at the bottom" there are some specialist creams and lotions you can get from High Street apothercarys and some very specialised web sites.}

9.) 20 Mar 2017 21:27:13
Thanks Ed 2 I will be sure to proof read before I post again . I walked right into that You are classic!

10.) 21 Mar 2017 10:55:14
I think 74 points will do it for 4th this season even tho, we can still get up to second if we play our cards right.



19 Mar 2017 15:59:59
Firmino back. Whoop whoop!




19 Mar 2017 07:20:18
Not suggesting he will come back but Sakho is showing once again that he is a very accomplished CB. Only if things did not turn out the way they did. Matip and Sakho could very well have been one of the best CB pairs in the League.

In the summer, Liverpool may just get the £20m or so, maybe more with the performances he is putting in at Palace as there will be quite a lot of interest in Sakho come the summer.

What a pity but we cannot cry over spilt milk.

Today is a very important fixture. Beat City and we open quite a decent gap on Arsenal and UTD and we will move into 3rd ahead of City. Spurs are minus Kane for many weeks so that is another plus for us. They play Soton today which is not going to be an easy match either. We could even find ourselves 2nd by the end of today.

The players need to pull together now as top four finish is more than achievable and along with that, there is no more room for error.

Come on Liverpool!


1.) 19 Mar 2017 08:42:40
I think managers need to assess players, all of their strengths and weaknesses, and decide where they sit in the squad. Sakho has issues off the field related to maturity and professionalism but, on the pitch, he is excellent. In my opinion, given how poor our defence is, I think Klopp should have given him a warning (or a fine or whatever it is clubs do to punish players acting up) but kept him and played him. He is excellent on his day and, when he played last year, we looked good at the back. He is still young as well and capable of significant improvement. Given our defensive frailities I can't help but think Klopp was too hasty in giving him the boot.

I was trying to think of a related player/ story and remember hearing about Manchester United in the early days and Fergusons gripes with Lee Sharpe and Ryan Giggs. They both used to go on the piss and Ferguson felt they were throwing away there careers. At the time Lee Sharpe was considered a better prospect though a player with more significant issues off the field - Ferguson ended up getting shot of Lee Sharpe but kept the erring Giggs - a player who went on to do very well. It's an obscure example I know but I just think our team could have really used a leader like Sakho at the back. klopp is the manager so what he says goes - with the Sakho issue though I think he made the wrong decision.

{Ed001's Note - he kept hold of Giggs because Giggs did as he was told and got rid of Sharpe because he was an arse who continued being an arse. Sakho does not listen and has been given multiple chances. I really wish people would shut up about him now.}

2.) 19 Mar 2017 09:10:11
Irrespective of the details Ferguson would make decisions about players based on their personality as well as the needs of the team - he kept Roy Keane and Eric Cantona despite there numerous infractions because it was good for the team at the time. My opinion, and you are well within your rights to disagree, is that the team would have benefitted from having Sakho in the team this season - the defence has been poor, has lacked leadership and has leaked a lot of goals - Sakho could have have a big impact on this. Klopp, from a disciplinary standpoint, may have made the right decision - but for what's best for the club on the pitch? I'm not so sure.

{Ed001's Note - you also have no idea what Sakho was doing, so why are you continuing this boring argument? By the way, one thing that Keane and Cantona never did was lack effort in training. They may have been problem kids, and complete a-holes in Keane's case, but they put in 100% in everything they did. Sakho burnt the bridges, it is irrelevant how well he plays elsewhere, he had to go for the sake of the team as a whole.

I really hope he has learnt a lesson and will grow up and behave for Palace or wherever he ends up. However, he deserves no more chances at Liverpool, he has had plenty.}

3.) 19 Mar 2017 09:30:21
Yup, Sakho out on loan is better than Sakho at LFC playing for the U23's. Getting a healthy sum of money for him is in Liverpool's best interest at this point. If Sakho had swallowed his pride and gone on loan in the summer when he was told he no longer had a future at the club then maybe Liverpool would have been able to move him on permanently in the January window.

He will definitely be gone in the summer irrespective of whether he plays out of his skin at Palace. He will be very well aware that he has many teams watching him. He has to prove to interested clubs that he is worth the wages he is earning at LFC.



16 Mar 2017 15:42:14
CL will be make or break for Liverpool. let's face it, whichever players we scout will see clubs who qualify for CL be one step ahead of us when offering contracts to those players.

We will have to scupper up deals like Mane where we pay over the odds if we do not qualify for CL. Not saying Mane was not worth the money but he was a risk at the price we paid for him.

It is going to be like playing russian roulette again if we do not have CL football on offer.

Luckily we set ourselves up well to finish top 4 earlier in the season. Final push and beating City will take us one step closer. Fingers crossed!


1.) 16 Mar 2017 16:15:20
It's such a shame January was that bad, because even if we had picked up one more win we would be sitting much better now. I think we need to beat city this weekend to be honest and I'm not sure it will happen.

I fully agree we won't get any first targets if we don't qualify for cl. Think we could have a strong future if we can just get that top 4 spot so we can spend and attract a bit more.

2.) 16 Mar 2017 16:40:10
Ko lo, Liverpool will spend irrespective of whether we qualify for CL or not. No CL just sees Liverpool taking bigger risks which can come back to bite us financially.

We had a higher wage bill than City and Arsenal last season which is not a very good thing when what Liverpool spent did not add up to how Liverpool performed on the pitch. That just leads to further disaster.

3.) 16 Mar 2017 17:07:09
We won't spend as much or get as much quality that's what I'm saying.

4.) 16 Mar 2017 18:09:19
What is not spend as much? If Liverpool have one of the highest wage bills in the League it means we are spending far too much without achieving success in accordance to what is being spent. Players will leave in the summer but with new additions it will see our wage bill increase even further.

There is no such thing as 'won't' spend as much when it comes to Liverpool. FSG will once again open their wallets to fund the club financially next season, just like they have all along which puts the club into further debt, debt which the club cannot afford.

For crying out loud, Ed002 has consistently spoken about FSG hanging themselves financially when it comes to Liverpool. And if you want to disagree then so be it, it will only be because you do not understand how Liverpool's finances work on a day to day basis. The club made a significant loss in the recent financials which FSG now need to fix.

5.) 16 Mar 2017 19:12:19
Man City are a top 6 club, LFC will bring their A game.

6.) 16 Mar 2017 19:24:55
3-1 to Liverpool, Citeh are awful. They'll try to play us at football and we'll tear them apart.

7.) 16 Mar 2017 19:39:48
Champions league does not mean you automatically sign quality players - anyone remember summer 2014?

It's about targeting the right players to fit in the team and to improve the weakest areas of the team. We need to be better at scouting, we need to be better at identifying our weaknesses.
Leicester proved you don't need Champions league to sign quality players - Kante, Mahrez.

Champions league is not make or break, you're being far too dramatic. Never heard such defeatist nonsense.

8.) 16 Mar 2017 20:16:45
It's mad isn't it. We're asking the players to get champions league, so they can be replaced 😄.

9.) 16 Mar 2017 19:17:35
Happens when you hand the likes of Lallana's a mammoth contract worth £30 mill for three years Max. Wages are certain to shoot up!

10.) 16 Mar 2017 19:17:25
Spot on, Max. Many complain that LFC don't spend but when you say that our wage bill is higher than City's (who spend way more than we do), they have nothing to come back with. People keep saying that FSG "won't" spend yet have no way of backing that up with real facts just personal innuendo which are not facts. I guess they must have forgotten that they dropped 300m to BR for his three years here but clearly, that's not seen as "spending enough" for some on here.

11.) 16 Mar 2017 20:41:39
I agree ron, all I'm saying is you can be sure that cal qualification will make a big deifference to our summer.

Why maxy boy can't handle this comment I don't know.

12.) 16 Mar 2017 22:11:13
It makes sense Ko Lo as CL qualification increases our turnover therefore increasing our FFP budget.

13.) 16 Mar 2017 23:55:42
Nearly £200 grand a week Harry. I don't think that's correct. I would be stunned if it was.

14.) 17 Mar 2017 07:18:34
Ron, 2014 Rodgers was in charge. He did not have the credentials to replace a player like Suarez. We got Benteke instead and paid a ridiculous price for him along with making him one of our highest earning players. Firmino might have been signed under Rodgers but only because we offered way more than other teams were willing to pay. That is how Liverpool have had to conduct transfer dealings over the years by always paying over the odds as the only thing that can compensate for lack of CL football is paying over the odds to try fend of the competition.

CL does and will make a massive difference. It is not a secret that Coutinho could leave should we fail to qualify for CL. How will we replace a player of his quality if we are after a big name player who wants to play at the highest level in Europe? We cannot replace Coutinho with some unknown kid with potential. It needs to be a player which can step in straight away for Coutinho.

We are after Brandt, if we fail to qualify for CL then a team like Bayern and others who are looking to sign him will hold all the cards when offering him a contract.

The players we scout are being scouted by Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and many other teams in Europe etc etc etc so if we finish outside the top 4 then those teams will have the edge over us if they have CL football on offer.

So with no CL it is a case of how much more are we willing to pay for a player compared to offers which other teams make i. e. Firmino.

Russian Roulette = the way Liverpool have been conducting business in the transfer market for many years now. If this continues we are in for a very rocky ride. CL football will be make or break if the club does not want to make another significant loss in the next set of financials.

15.) 17 Mar 2017 10:48:50
It's a risk buying any player.

That's why you trust your manager and his team.

At the end of the day if the transfers don't work to close the gap on your rivals then then the manager will be sacked eventually.
Every other team will be trying the same so it's easier said than done.

Especially now that even the promoted clubs can spend 20 million on a player.
There's no poor club in the Premier League.

16.) 17 Mar 2017 11:12:17
He is being handed a big money contract which I am sure Irish, all coz he started running 6 months ago. When he stop running he becomes the old Lallana.




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19 Mar 2017 16:09:57
Leekuanyew, in the driving seat for the title end of last year when we were top of the table only once this season with Chelsea 1 point behind us at the time?

You really just seem to be a wind up aren't you?




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18 Mar 2017 15:39:16
Guess Matic will replace Henderson? Ed002 said in the Sharkopod that Liverpool are unlikely to be signing any CM's unless Can leaves.




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12 Mar 2017 20:39:09
Ron, Mignolet will be number one till the end of the season. Let's see whether he is going to be happy when he is sitting on the bench start of next season.

Klopp made a mistake to bring back Mignolet but it seems like it will work in his favour. It could be that Klopp tells him he should find another club once the season has ended. No number 1 wants to be told that. Ed002 has said on quite a few occasions that the club want rid and that Karius was signed to be no 1.




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12 Mar 2017 13:52:14
Or it could be that Klopp wants rid of Mignolet and then have Karius as no 1, Ward no 2 and Manninger no 3.

If Karius is not going to get a proper shot at being no 1 then obviously we will not know whether he is the answer and signing a new keeper may not be the answer either unless he is given more than a handful of games to prove himself? So best solution in this situation is to give Karius a chance.




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07 Mar 2017 16:56:31
It is true that the club/ Klopp wanted to move on Clyne last summer Matip is Boss. Ed002 last summer confirmed that Clyne was not a happy man when the club was offering him around.





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21 Mar 2017 11:34:56
Yeah Rafa as DOF? This is of course football related, nothing personal but What makes you think that Rafa will be able to run a club from top to bottom football wise when he could not even work under DOF's at previous jobs? You want him to be in sole charge of footballing matters at Liverpool again? He may have been our manager but he had far to much power at LFC which eventually lead to his downfall.

Rafa did some great things for LFC but politicians do not belong at Liverpool which is pretty much what Rafa ended up being for us.

Sorry for you but Ed001 is correct.




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21 Mar 2017 11:15:22
And replace Coutinho with whom? Is there a player out there with his ability that will be worth the money we get for him? Who may that player be?

It is all fair and well selling him but does not mean we will be able to sign someone with equal quality taking into account that players like Sanchez prefer London over any other location in England. Top players have preferences and Liverpool football club is not the number one destination for world class players.

So then we can go sign Gotze who's career has gone down the pan and be saddled with an overpriced, bad attitude and hemorrhaging of the wage bill.

It is simple to say oh, £65m is reason to get rid of Coutinho when you cannot even provide a solution to replacing him!

Brandt for instance may be a top talent but is not going to walk into the first team straight away if we end up signing him and in no certain terms is at a level to replace Coutinho if he had to leave.

Ed002 in his last sharkopod made it know which attacking players we are interested in and those players could be improvements to the squad depth and first team but not going to be good enough to replace Coutinho straight away.

Get a grip.




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21 Mar 2017 09:22:19
Spare us.




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21 Mar 2017 08:40:43
I fully agree, Rafa is one of the most humble men you will find. Especially what Montse and Rafa have done for the City of Liverpool.

If there is one guy I would like to sit around the dinner table with it would be Rafa. Having him as manager a big no from me though.


{Ed001's Note - agreed, I love Rafa the man, but would never want him back managing us either.}



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21 Mar 2017 08:32:11
Fair enough. Like I said, did not know Keane had a bad lifestyle. He was a proven goalscorer. I was basing my post on what Rafa's comments were about the situation. Was still the comments made by Rafa in 'An Audience with Rafa Benitez'. Never heard or saw Rafa saying anything bad about Keane.

Anyway, rant over.


{Ed001's Note - Rafa wouldn't because it was private and he has taken the blame for years for Keane's failings and pushing him out of the door so quickly. That is because Rafa is a genuinely good man.}