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24 Jun 2017 10:42:38
Ed002, any interest from Liverpool for Gaetan Laborde?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know of Liverpool interest in Gaetan Laborde. He is seen as a very average striker in France and there is a different Bordeaux player that Liverool has been keen on. Laborde is far from a regular goalscorer.}


1.) 24 Jun 2017 11:02:18
Is that Malcolm? Do we look like making an offer?

{Ed002's Note - Malcom - there has been a lot of interest from Liverpool.}


2.) 24 Jun 2017 11:03:13
Malcolm I assume Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Malcom.}


3.) 24 Jun 2017 11:04:19
Thanks Ed002.


4.) 24 Jun 2017 11:11:59
"Course you can Malcom! "
See how many oldies remember that line.

{Ed001's Note - I am obviously too young.....}


5.) 24 Jun 2017 12:18:58
Sadly I do . Vicks sinex.


6.) 24 Jun 2017 12:39:28
My dad still says it now! Im sure he would have preferred me to be called Malcolm.


7.) 24 Jun 2017 13:10:44
I don't know much about Malcom, but was he another alternative to the left winger? If so, the interest in this window must surely be gone now with the deal for Salah, am i right?

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't think that Klopp would keep looking for more players in that position but given he will be playing at least one out of position then maybe. Or maybe he is interested in a striker who struggles for goals?}


8.) 24 Jun 2017 13:13:01
And me too.


9.) 24 Jun 2017 13:40:03
Malcom as left back. LOL.


10.) 24 Jun 2017 19:45:24
Gaetan Laborde? Sounds like the name of a drag act!
I still believe that Bobby Firmino will remain as our preferred striking option, with Sturridge and Solanke as back up/ cup players. I don't think Klopp really needs much more up front, he just needs to sort out the defence.


 

 

07 Jun 2017 17:38:08
Ed002, know of anything about the rumour of Sturridge being offered to Newcastle?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't but Newcastle have already reached agreement to take a striker on loan.}


1.) 07 Jun 2017 17:52:38
Th Young st from Chelsea I'm I right.

{Ed002's Note - Abraham.}


 

 

05 Jun 2017 18:09:57
This could be the season where Liverpool smash the budget into pieces to once and for all get back to the top.

Scary stuff but if that is what the club is planning on doing then us fans will just go with the flow.

I just wonder who the club tends on seeing going as the figures we are about to spend will have to see more than one current players on their way. Let's hope it ain't Coutinho.

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1.) 05 Jun 2017 18:40:22
I'm not concerned with the earlier fees at all as the game has somewhat changed, not just for us but the Premier League. The influx of TV money in the premier league, on top of the additional revenue we will provided by the Champions League (if we qualify) has me fairly chill about this issue. Don't think the club would also sign a CB and LW to cope with the departure of PC and we've been surprisingly quiet this summer with regards to 'Number 10' rumours.


2.) 05 Jun 2017 18:50:22
Likely to be: Sakho, Lucas, Stewart, Markovich, Moreno.

Personally also wouldn't be overly surprised by any one (s) of: Sturridge, Ojo, Ward, Ings, Klavan, Gomez, Milner, Coutinho (😩)


3.) 05 Jun 2017 19:09:23
Say with the likely there puzzled would raise £50 million to pay VVDs fee and the saving of wages. I'd like to see Ward, Gomez and Ings loaned out for fitness and experience. I'd like Sturridge and Couts stay. I do like Milner and he should stay as a good squad player but I think he will want 1st team action so may leave.


4.) 05 Jun 2017 19:10:46
I do not believe many understand how club finaces work. We earned massively the previous seasons from TV revenue and still Liverpool ended up making a significant loss in the last financials.

The new training facility will have to see Liverpool making up the numbers financially elsewhere. Increasing the wage bill considerably with the arrivals of VVD and Salah will punish the club.

You do understand that the wage bill makes up majority of Liverpool's spend each season? Therefore adding over £300k a week to our current wage bill 3rd highest in the League will have to see some of the current crop leave.

Transfer fees not the main issue as they get paid over a period, not in one go.

Lallana, Firmino, Mane and Gini can all play number ten. Even Salah.


5.) 05 Jun 2017 18:55:10
lucas
Gomez loan
Sakho
Origi maybe in January
Clyne
Wilson loan
Stewart
Markovic
Moreno

Should be around £100m. So if all goes to plan we might still get a left back and one other. Happy days.


6.) 05 Jun 2017 19:30:41
Mark, it does not matter what we will be selling players for. The transfer fees we receive will not be paid in one go to us. We are probably some way off before Bournemouth finish paying for Ibe. Just like Suarez was only paid up by Barcelona this past season.

Our wage bill though is something which sees the club accounts with an exit of funds every week. Add VVD and Salah to the current bill, you can be rest assured that there will have to be quite a few exits in the summer, especially if we are planning on adding more players.


 

 

04 Jun 2017 06:49:41
Never heard of the player but Liverpool are reportedly eyeing a move for Anderlecht's Polish striker Lukasz Teodorczyk.

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1.) 04 Jun 2017 08:41:57
As you would say, the Eds have repeatedly stated that interest on Merseyside is from Everton ;)


 

 

02 Jun 2017 19:52:04
Ok, ok, I know transfer fees are a thing of the past but Southampton apparently have slapped an asking price of £70m for Van Dijk.

It really is becoming a complete joke. So let's sign him and hope for the best aka Lovren. And don't give me this crap that VVD is better than Lovren. Lovren was probably the best CB in the League the season before we signed him.

I would rather pay a bit extra for Salah than make VVD the most expensive defender ever.

Money has ruined the beautiful game.

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{Ed025's Note - money has ruined the game max..


1.) 02 Jun 2017 20:07:47
we won't push through a move fro 70 mil surely, tell me we won't eds, please!

{Ed025's Note - you wont mate..


2.) 02 Jun 2017 20:20:03
And fans will complain why there are increases in ticket prices. It would lead to making VVD the most expensive CB ever along with polishing his brand new supercar and wages which hardly any fan will see in 20 life times.

Lets sign him anyway and let's then have the daggers out for FSG when they decide to raise ticket prices after signing Keita, VVD, Lacazette, Mendy, Mbappe and every other fan driven fantasy signing.

Maybe FSG are not that bad after all.


3.) 02 Jun 2017 20:31:32
Money's made the league more exciting fact. Can't believe anyone will be paying £70mil for vvd though, saints are deluded if that's what they're asking for. Lovren to Everton Ed025 :) . you can have Clyne as well. Swaps with Coleman happy days.

{Ed025's Note - i hope you mean our local solid fuel merchant rather than seamus in that swap reaper....i will give you the number for fred carno mate...hes always looking for clowns mate.. :)


4.) 02 Jun 2017 20:32:48
Very greedy indeed. Nobody should not sign him out of principle and set an example! You could get Sanchez for £70m 😉.


5.) 02 Jun 2017 20:33:19
I'm sure Celtic bought vvd for 2.2 million euro 😂😂😂😂.

{Ed025's Note - it was something like that reusch..


6.) 02 Jun 2017 20:33:35
You won't be complaining ed when your sugar daddy bank rolls the next few years at Everton.

{Ed025's Note - your dead right marshy..my principles will go right out the window mate and i make no excuses for that mate...pull up the ladder jack its every man for himself.. :)


7.) 02 Jun 2017 20:53:25
Ed the 70m rumours are wide of the mark mate right else we wouldn't be trying to land him?


8.) 02 Jun 2017 21:12:14
And why should Ed25 worry we've been bank rolled for years 😁.


9.) 02 Jun 2017 21:45:57
Ed25.

Football was ruined as soon as Murdoch got his grubby hands on the game, 1992/ 93 was the death of our fantastic game.

United fans would beg to differ though.

{Ed025's Note - your probably right nicky, i know im a bit of an old codger but i was listening to lee dixon saying how when he walks into the emirates he gets totally ignored by the young gunners who walk past him and dont even acknowledge him even though he is as arsenal stalwart, young kids on loads of dosh who think they are better than having to show respect to him, thats what money has done and its a shame as these are probably the future of the game, sad really mate..


10.) 02 Jun 2017 22:39:45
I am too ed25, turned 45 this year!

I'd like to think it's not the same at Anfield. Even though I have a season ticket on the Kop, I quite often get to go to the Carlsberg lounge ( cooperate ) and have sat and had dinner with the likes of Jimmy Case, Fairclough, Phil Neal, Aldo and Alan Kennedy. They are always in and around the club and they often talk about the youngsters etc.

I'm totally old skool mate, grew up watching Merseyside dominating the league.

At least our two teams can say we did it without having to float on the stock exchange ( the red Mancs) or have a sheik pump loads of money into the club in order to achieve success.


11.) 03 Jun 2017 23:42:23
If it truly is 70m then we have to walk away.
Only a wage cap and a transfer fee cap could ever stop this escalating madness of spending in football, and we all know that won't happen.
But there are defenders available in europe for around half that fee, who can perform to 80-90% of VVDs level.
The problem is that the super rich clubs like City will simply pay the 70m, or 150m- or whatever it takes to get a player they realy want. And clubs who can't or won't join the mad spending spree will always be second best- barring the odd miracle like Leicester's title win.
If this sport is so money driven that a cb sells for 70m, you do start to ask yourself what it is that we as fans are actually supporting.
Are we supporting a team or filling the pockets of agents and obsecenely overpaid players?
It makes me wonder.


 

 

 

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28 Jun 2017 20:16:42
If anything, we can give Flanagan a chance to revive his career as a RB at Anfield. The one thing you will get from this player is guts and glory.

Plus he will put in a proper tackle without shying out. Another player which I believe we gave up to soon on is Martin Kelly. Sure both players have had injury after but the club has had no patients with them.

Youngsters get thrown aside far to quickly without being given a proper run for their money.

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1.) 28 Jun 2017 20:42:27
Problem is that the injuries have taken too much of a toll on him physically and taken too much of his pace away to be an effective fullback at the top level. That's cold hard fact and regrettably there's no room for sentimentality. I'd love him to be able to stake a claim, but realistically I cannot see it happening.


2.) 28 Jun 2017 20:59:38
Guts and glory will only get you so far. Loved his attitude but he is not answer and don't think he ever would have been.


3.) 28 Jun 2017 21:39:44
That will not happen, flannagan would be well down the pecking order now. So it's best for him to move on and get a team he is first choice. If he get a year or 2 under his belt and somehow get to top level I think we would then be more than happy to welcome him back at any price. His passion and love for Liverpool would be priceless.


4.) 28 Jun 2017 21:58:47
Red tinted glasses I'm afraid Max, he's clearly shown this year that he isn't good enough for our level. How about Andre Wisdom too?

Sentiment is all well and good but don't let it cloud your judgement on quality.


5.) 28 Jun 2017 22:23:54
Love Flanno, but I think it is over for him here.


6.) 29 Jun 2017 09:51:27
It breaks my heart but Flanno's time has gone and those injuries he suffered have devastated him and his ability. Can he come back? Of course. I thought Falcao was finished after his injuries set him back 2 years and now look at him. Good luck to the lad as I will always love him and that spectacular goal at Spurs will always remain with me.


 

 

25 Jun 2017 12:23:34
Ings is a forgotten man. Yes not the most flashiest player but a fox in the box. We could have sold him in January. Were rumours of £20m being rejected by Liverpool.

I was not that excited when we signed Ings but he started showing good signs before his terrible injury. Going to take a while for him to get back to full fitness but we require movement from our strikers and that is one thing he most definitely can contribute.

Our attack is not the issue. We have plenty of players who can score and assist.

Repeating myself over and over again, we only need 2 quality fullbacks now and then our squad will be complete.

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1.) 25 Jun 2017 13:56:19
The lad has a lot to his game, shame about the injuries. Hope he's given a run in pre season.


2.) 25 Jun 2017 14:52:35
With Solanke coming in, Studge likely to remain, Origi's potential and Bobby as likely first choice striker I can't see a place for Ings. Unfortunate as I see him as a good squad player but where will he come in?


3.) 25 Jun 2017 15:18:02
Honestly, if we can't get a clear cut improvement on our current defenders I would prefer to see Lovren and Matip supplemented by Gomez. Purchasing a defender for 70 million pounds is just insane to me, especially when there are good options available within the squad. What we need is a strong left back and Milner can take up Lucas role in the squad. Would like to see Can signed long term and I think Ox is a good option, both as a project moving forward and a current addition to our squad. I could easily see Klopp inserting him into the game for say Clyne against a team parking the bus. If Henderson and Sturridge can return to fitness you have those two plus Lallana and Origi on the bench. That's a title chasing squad, even without the additional signings, which would ideally be Keita, Mendy. Of course they are priced out of a move either by wages or the club doesn't want to sell. For me, Moreno, Markovic and Sakho must be dealt with and removing them would give us plenty of room to invest in defense.


 

 

25 Jun 2017 11:07:29
If Klopp does add Ox to the squad then our problem of lack of pace will be resolved and we will have plenty of attacking options.

It has always been said, ones best form of defence is attack. Ox and Salah will add many more assists and goals to our squad. Ox also helps out with homegrown quota.

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1.) 25 Jun 2017 11:19:13
Home grown quota to me is the main reason.


2.) 25 Jun 2017 11:27:17
I think that is what our business is pointing too. Klopp has clearly identified a lack of pace in our team and he is not wrong. One reason we struggle to score goals at times is because we take far too long to transition from defence/ midfield to attack and let the opposition get back in numbers. Salah, Brandt, Malcom, Ox, Mendy, Sessegnon, Keita and even VVD to some extent are all players whose first thought is to drive forward without hesitation and they all do it at pace. Looks like Salah, Ox and possibly Mendy may be the only 3 of the primary targets who we land but at least you can see a focused pattern to our targets. Unlike under Rodgers where we would fail to sign a left back, and sign an attacking midfielder instead!

I can see slight a change in our style next season. I think we will still look to press to win the ball high up or in midfield, but then when we win it back go straight for throat instead of passing it around looking for an opening. We will perhaps see less possession and more direct running at the opposition. This is not new to Klopp as it is exactly how Dortmund won the title.


3.) 25 Jun 2017 11:28:09
Max,
I agree as I believe Ox would be used in more advanced roles.
He is a direct player and we were lacking the drive from mid when Lall and Mane were out.
He solves some things as directness and cover for advanced roles, both of what we were lacking for several months last season.
Is he the best option? Probably not.
But he is Klopp's option apparently, and I believe it's a good one.
Best,


4.) 25 Jun 2017 11:51:47
I for one wouldn't moan about signing the ox. Definitely a player that can improve our match day squad not staring xi but will definitely give options off the bench. I agree that he fits klopps style of quick powerful attakcers (mane and salah as examples) so don't think it would be a bad signing.


5.) 25 Jun 2017 12:01:43
MK We don't struggle to score because we're slow in transitions - that's evident in our games against top 6 sides as they are the only ones ( with the exception of man utd) that really came out to play against us. its when teams put 10 men behind the ball and show little ambition is when we struggle. i think that's when full backs/ wing backs/ wingers are critical in beating a man and getting behind defences. clyne managed loads of times but has appalling end product and crossed into the first defender, milner managed it too but then cut back in to cross it on his right foot which gave defences time. Ox offers a verstile option on the wings and in mf if necessary. he was also one of the few arsenal players that came out of the season with any credit. still remember him throwing a hissy fit agains munich when he tried to close down yet the rest of the arsenal team weren't interested in putting in the effort.


6.) 25 Jun 2017 13:11:28
Swish, we don't seem slow against the top 6 as they attack us more than other teams leaving space. Against the others we are slow in transition and don't move the ball quick enough which is the reason why they manage to get everyone back behind the ball,

You don't necessarily need fast players to move the ball at pace but it certainly helps with pressing quickly up the pitch.


7.) 25 Jun 2017 13:52:34
That's my point jack, we transition very well- when there is space. it's not like we try to play a slower transition against worse teams Doesn't matter how quick you pass the ball if there are 10 defenders in front of you, hence the importance of the wingers/ full backs and their end product. Ox can do that effectively ( and also has speed he can use when there is space)


8.) 25 Jun 2017 13:57:35
Hey swish, ihad never heard that about Ox versus Munich. THe boy has gone up in my estimation with that type of attitude.


 

 

25 Jun 2017 08:27:53
Oxlade-Chamberlain seems to be the player that we will be going for next as the rumours on him are continuing to hot up. That will surely rule out any other midfielders joining if we had to sign him.

Many not keen on him joining but like with Wijnaldum it was the same and Gini went on to have a pretty damn good season for us.

If Ox does join then that will surely rule out anymore CM's joining. We will be overstocked in midfield.

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1.) 25 Jun 2017 08:44:46
We are overstocked in midfield irrespective of whether OX joins or not. Complete mystery of a signing for me if it happens.


2.) 25 Jun 2017 08:47:38
I suspect if we're going for him it'll be as a winger rather than midfield but let's see. also suspect it'll mean a loan for at least Ings.


3.) 25 Jun 2017 08:59:32
I can't understand the logic in signing a player (who has never looked like being a centre midfielder) to play in centre midfield and worse still lashing out £30m for the privilege. then when you put it in context of Chelsea paying £35m for Bakayoko from Monaco who actually IS. A centre midfielder it looks even more baffling.


4.) 25 Jun 2017 09:58:52
I do not believe the hype. I do not think we are in for Ox. Naby Keita seems of more interest but who would he replace?


5.) 25 Jun 2017 10:10:26
Give it a rest no one nos were he will play gini was an attacking mid for newcastle look were he has played for us and how well people need to guve him a chance o feel he will kick on loads with us.


 

 

24 Jun 2017 18:06:16
It is reported: “The Premier League has new cost control measures, coming into force this summer. The rules say that a club’s wage bill should not be more than £7m more than it was in 2016-17, or £19m more than from the 2012-13 season.

VVd at £200k a week surely not going to be possible then seeing that Can is up for a pay rise and the addition of Salah?

Unless Sakho, Moreno and Markovic go then we will not be in a position to add anymore players at this point.

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1.) 24 Jun 2017 18:10:06
You're not allowed to use TV money. but extra income earned from commercial, ticket sales, etc is ok.


2.) 24 Jun 2017 19:09:33
Thats ridiculous.

So where does the tv money go?

Surely not back in The owners pockets.

Fans pay that money to watch the best players play for their club.

Its the players who have the talent and who create the magic that sells the shirts to the fans who pay for the subscription tv.

Not the chairman.

The F A is a joke.


3.) 24 Jun 2017 22:55:11
The TV money should go into improving facilities at grounds - like facilities for disabled fans and it should also go into reducing ticket prices.
I'm sick of agents pockets tens of millions every year and fans getting ripped off every week. There needs to be a balance struck.


4.) 25 Jun 2017 00:46:57
I agree about the agents that they should get a set fee for wach transfer set by uefa etc. The rest of their cash should come out of the olayers wages. Not these mad % payments.

The academy should be funded from this money
A percentage should also be for facility improvements and community projects.
But the club has to be able to buy the best quality players possible as an obligation to the fans (best quality doesn't necessarily mean most expensive) to give the club the best chance to win trophies.

The money quoted for and paid to players these days is obscene but the top players are like modern day film stars and deserve to be paid for their talent.


5.) 24 Jun 2017 18:24:16
Ed002, what do the new rules actually mean in layman terms?

{Ed002's Note - That you cannot significantly increase the cost of wages across the playing staff and whatever increase there is has to come from income generated by the club rather than windfall income.}


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2017 23:35:59
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26 Jun 2017 22:37:45
Fans have a short memory when the club was on the verge of bankruptcy. H and G borrowed money left right and centre from the banks to keep the club running when the club could not afford it.

There is much more money in football now but that does not mean LFC can sustain a transfer window of £200m plus mountains of wages.

The club is taking on debt under FSG. Luckily not through the banks :-) LFC's debt continues to grow, FSG fit the bill. Not a very healthy situation to be in, for FSG or the LFC.

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26 Jun 2017 20:47:19
£70m for VVD and £70m for Keita. Liverpool are going to break all kinds of transfer records as well as probably having the highest wage bill in Europe.

It is ok though, not the fans money even if LFC cannot actually afford that kind of expenditure :-)

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25 Jun 2017 13:23:16
Why would it not be Ed?

Are Liverpool going to end up paying what Soton will request? If we go in and haggle then we will make an absolute mockery of ourselves again. If things fall through then Soton will surely go back to the FA as we just added more fuel to the fire.

The only way Liverpool will be able to sign VVD is for LFC to ask Soton to name the price and pay it.

Anything other than that will see Liverpool ending in the cesspool again.
There is not knowing what Soton will ask us to pay but it most definitely is not going to be pocket change. Again, will Liverpool pay Soton's price approching them in the correct manner and if Soton's time is wasted the deal goes nowhere with the player only wanting to join us after tapping him up, what happens then?

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25 Jun 2017 13:11:19
{Ed002's Note - It has been done to death. }

I do not see why people keep on bringing up this issue Ed002.

People, people, people. Get this into your thick heads. If Liverpool are going to make further approaches for VVD then the FA will step in and sweep clean. How many times does this have to be explained?

If Liverpool stay clear of VVD then nothing else will happen unless we tap up another player.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

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28 Jun 2017 20:30:18
We might have to end up paying way more for VVD than the figures which are being thrown around.

Soton have made it clear that he is not for sale.

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26 Jun 2017 22:59:58
Look people, there is nothing right about a manager of Liverpool bringing the club into disrepute. As a matter of fact, not any employee of Liverpool.

If Ed002 is suggesting that there could be a transfer ban on the way for Liverpool or points reduction, then this is not something we should be advocating?

The Ed's are here to provide worthy info. If this is the way our fans are rambling on then it just shows the current state of affairs at this club. Questions get asked of the Ed's and they get abused when they give honest answers?

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26 Jun 2017 22:02:59
I for one believe Klopp brought back belief. Let's be honest, the football on display last season, we totally thrashed anything that was put in front of us except for when opposition teams played with eleven in the box. The football on display was marvelous.

The whole VVD saga has put a dampner on things for me. This is Liverpool, you have to treat the club with respect. Klopp buried us in ridicule.

I am hoping Klopp was given a proper talking to. FSG seriously need to put their foot down. The only manager who has not dragged them through carp under their reign was old Hodgson but he was not even appointed by FSG. He did not cause the problems Kenny, Rodgers and Klopp have.

FSG have the financial brain, they have taken the club far beyond what Moores and the cowboys could have ever achieved but maybe running an institution as big as Liverpool has become too much for them. They are not learning from their mistakes.

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25 Jun 2017 13:16:24
Forget about the bloody price. Soton will take Liverpool to the cleaners irrespective if we decided we are going all in for VVD. We will pay that much more than what any other club will. It is not rocket science.

The FA will also take Liverpool to the cleaners after it was made publicly clear that LFC have no more interest in VVD.

What is so difficult to understand about this?

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25 Jun 2017 12:29:28
Liverpool will need to cut their losses with Sakho and Markovic. We ain't going to recoup what we paid out for them.

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