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04 Feb 2017 13:25:32
Any legs in the Handanovic to Liverpool rumours Eds?

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - I don't know but if Mignolet were to leave in the summer and Handanovic were happy to be a back up to Karius perhaps. It would obviously mean the end for Ward if that happened.}


 

 

31 Aug 2015 16:47:21
Press reports linking us with Yarmolenko and/or Blaszczykowski again Eds - anything in these rumours?

Also talk of a RM bid for Moreno - any truth in that? I guess the player wouldn't turn that down!

johnnyr1970

{Ed001's Note - nothing as far as I am aware in any of those. Madrid are busy trying to sort out De Gea and running out of time fast.}


 

 

08 Jan 2015 15:42:16
Telegraph reckon Suso to AC Milan not happening - perhaps there is a chance for him yet at Anfield.

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1.) 08 Jan 2015 21:26:58
Its a done deal mate .


2.) 09 Jan 2015 14:27:23
I think the bridges between Liverpool and Suso are pretty much burned. One of the Eds said he was trying to leave last season too.

I don't blame the guy to be honest. Especially when the likes of Balotelli who has done absolutely nothing come in and get given a spot in the starting 11 or bench.


 

 

 

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14 Dec 2016 17:39:08
Be interesting to hear the Eds thoughts on the number of relatively young players being linked with moves to China - Oscar being the latest. Sounds like a waste of talent in many cases, all for the lure of the bigger pay packet, as if they don't get paid enough.

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - Since China opened up it has thrown a massive potential market in to the mix for professional sports (not just football, but there are other growth sports as well) and a number of Chinese companies see the potential for significant income form the game. Chinese money is already flooding through football with ownership and/or investment in clubs as diverse as Inter Milan, Espanyol, Den Haag, Milan, Sochaux, Aston Villa, Milan, Atletico Madrid, Slavia Prague and significantly, City Football Group. City of course owns Manchester City, New York City, Yokohama F Marino and Melbourne City - and are looking to expand in to China and South America. For years the professional game in China was under a cloud of corruption (including match-fixing) and the Chinese, and to be fair FIFA, have worked very hard to resolve the issues. The game is on the up there and they have the money to pretty much do what they want, and this involves taking a mix of players to play in China - there are high profile players at high-profile English sides that are being offered significant financial rewards for moving to China. There is now a shift coming in Europe and I would expect to see further investment in European sides - there is one organization looking hard at Germany and another already successful in buying in to Italy. They of course have to work within certain legal ownership frameworks and that will restrict investment in certain countries. Do not be surprised to see another English side be taken over by Chinese owners in the not too distant future (let me suggest Lander might look to Southampton as a viable option since their preferred choice is gone). Meanwhile, the profile of the game at home is increasing and the market to be tapped significant. I spent several months in Hong Kong working in both 1988 and again in 1990 and it was clear then that the mainland needed a step change and it could get leverage over so much - since then that has happened. Six months working out of Beijing in 2005 (until they pretty much forced me out) showed that changes were happening - since then I understand from colleagues who do visit that it has moved on a lot.

In terms of my personal view:

The Chinese are intent on cleaning up their act and want to promote sport within a nation that has only recently fully opened their doors to the outside world. There is a significant shift in wealth to the Far East and in particular China. They will invest and build in their own leagues and they will go to other parts of the world to learn. Chelsea has lost one player to China and has had an approach about a second. Other players from the EPL will follow with at least one Manchester City and at least one Liverpool player having opportunities in China for this season that they did not take up - but in the longer term the Chinese will cherry pick and then look to grow. This then leads to potential movement of players within the consortia (as Udinese has done with Watford) and that is something we will see more of but there are pleanty of walls in the way based on (a) convenience, and (b) potential abuse of national or international FFP rules. They will learn from the mistakes of others and they will soon be looking to add coaching capabilities by recruiting from other leagues. It is progress - like it or not.}

The coming years will see lots of changes. You know about the pan-European breakaway proposals, well there is going to be a counter-proposal backed by UEFA to try and save their own skin which is soon to be tabled (at the end of August to the "elite" clubs and in December to everyone else). There will be more global City Football Group style collectives appearing. There will be growth in China. And so it goes.}


1.) 14 Dec 2016 18:14:45
Good work ed.
Thanks for your knowledge 😘.


2.) 14 Dec 2016 20:46:14
Cheers Ed002, interesting read. Sounds like we might be seeingg a lot more talented players ending up in China in the next few years - perhaps UEFA could invite some Chinese clubs into the CL so that we still get to see the best players play ;-)


 

 

30 Aug 2016 07:48:46
I know the Eds are sick of LB questions but is there the chance that we've got a potential world beater in the youth sides that isn't deemed ready for the first team yet and that's why we're not throwing money at it now?

johnnyr1970

{Ed001's Note - no.}


1.) 30 Aug 2016 09:11:11
Cheers Ed001 - thought there may have been someone up and coming who could challlenge for a spot, obviously there isn't.

{Ed001's Note - we were looking at a young full back precisely because there is no one coming through.}


 

 

22 Jul 2016 08:17:48
It's amazing how most of the 'fans' on here spend all their time watching other teams, I mean everyone must have watched every minute of every Newcastle game to know how bad Wijnaldum really is.

Give the lad a chance, it was only this time last year 'we' were all crying because Depay had signed for Utd - look how that worked out, bet you're all glad now. If he flops I'll hold my hands up and say 'whoops'. If he adds 10 goals to our tally from midfield then that'll probably those extra 3 wins we needed to get top 4 - these are very fine margins!

johnnyr1970

1.) 22 Jul 2016 09:06:30
I get annoyed by blind optimistic fans who do not see no wrong. Every season on this forum it's the same give the lad a chance, yet every year we under perform as does the player in a huge number of cases. The fans want what is best for the club and that is quality. Not players who perform well at relegated clubs. Yes he scored 11 goals, four was in one game against a very sub standard Norwich side. We all know what defines quality and the Dutch lad is not the definition of it, yet 25 mil is spent.


2.) 22 Jul 2016 09:55:09
why slag off players before they've even put the shirt on? some of ya need a reality check. I promise you 1000% that your opinion would be more positive if he was coming straight form the dutch league. it is only that newcastle got relegated, and a comment from ed001 that has swayed some people.

{Ed001's Note - he was not that good in Holland, which is why he ended up at Newcastle. I wish people would drop the player of the year crap, it is irrelevant, we all know it is not down to how good a player is winning these awards. I really hope the lad comes in and plays to his potential he had as a kid, but he has not made any progress in years.}


3.) 22 Jul 2016 09:55:10
Carlitoc- I get annoyed with pessimistic posters like yourself, in which there seems to be more by the day on this site of late! change the record. The biggest stick most posters seem to have found to beat GW with is that he scored 4 goals in one game but it was "only" against Norwich! Its pathetic! Give the lad a break, get behind him. Its negative "fans" like you the contribute most to these so called "flops" we have. It must be so hard to perform with people already writing you off before you have kicked a ball for the club.

johnnyr1970 - good post mate.


4.) 22 Jul 2016 10:00:31
I get annoyed by blind pessimist fans who judge a player before he's kicked a ball for us. Truth is noone knows how a player will turn out so how about giving him the benefit of the doubt, eh?


5.) 22 Jul 2016 10:06:35
Carlitoc

best post I've seen for a long time.

We need players to walk into our starting 11 to improve us, will wijnaldum do that. I don't think so.


6.) 22 Jul 2016 10:10:28
I have a different view carlitoc.
I get annoyed with people judging players before
a) they've settled in
b) they've kicked a ball for us
c) they've even signed for us.

When you've sat and heard the abuse that the likes of Lucas and Hendo received when they were settling in. Then contrast that with the praise they've received since and the model professionals they've been for the club despite the unnecessary abuse. You realise you have to be at least neutral with players until they've had a chance to settle. My personal view is being overly optimistic and supportive speeds up the settling in period, which is why I probably annoy the heck out of you.

Sorry

Ron xx.


7.) 22 Jul 2016 10:14:48
No blind optimism from me - I could see Benteke was never going to be a good fit for example because he was a long-ball type player - but I find it hard to believe anyone has really seen enough of this guy to be slating him.

Apologies to Ed001 but it would appear his opinion - which may or may not prove correct - has soured everyone elses.

Oh and how many goals did Suarez score against Norwich? Are we saying they aren't valid?


8.) 22 Jul 2016 11:07:18
Spent some time in Netherlands and watching Dutch league and his first club in particular. Disagree with Ed001 and thought he was actually quality then but that is my opinion and we are all entitled to them - no issue with your Ed of course. Some will be positive some negative. Thought last year he was a great signing for Newcastle, don't think he was awful by any means but think he was one in a dysfunctional squad that the manager (s) never managed to motivate as a group. I think his success here will be all about how he is managed within a TEAM (like all the players) and in that regard I have to trust in a manager with a personality that appears right for our club to build a TEAM again. But quality of this individual I think need not be questioned.

{Ed001's Note - I hope you are right, I remember as a kid he looked special, but he looked worse every time I saw him after that.}


9.) 22 Jul 2016 11:17:46
Ron

Yeah Henderson and lucas worked out, but let's face it our success in the transfer market for the last 10years has been rubbish.


10.) 22 Jul 2016 11:19:32
Exactly johnnyr. To add to that, if scoring against Norwich is to be argued, how about tons of other players who didn't score that much or didn't score at all againts Norwich?


11.) 22 Jul 2016 11:17:46
Ron

Yeah Henderson and lucas worked out, but let's face it our success in the transfer market for the last 10years has been rubbish.


12.) 22 Jul 2016 11:19:32
Exactly johnnyr. To add to that, if scoring against Norwich is to be argued, how about tons of other players who didn't score that much or didn't score at all againts Norwich?


13.) 22 Jul 2016 11:31:36
Me too! I just don't want to offer a "write him off" vibe without offering a supportive view. Like I say, whilst I have no greater qualification than most if not all of your posters, I have personally seen quality in this lad and therefore he deserves that support from the off from this loyal fan! And he clearly is rated by folk in the club, not least the manager, who are much more qualified than all of us.


14.) 22 Jul 2016 14:25:47
So all in the name of optimism, we should no longer voice our concerns over a player that is coming in? So much for making you opinions heard and freedom to speak your mind. Carlitoch and many like myself, have the right to voice our concerns about a player being signed for big money based on his most recent season in the PL (cos that is the most recent information we have as what he used to be in his youth is irrelevant) and many for now, do not agree with his signing as many think he`s not what we need, is a luxury signing as we are over populated at his position. In what way are these concerns invalid? These same concerns were leveled against Carroll, Downing, Balotelli, Benteke, Lallana, Milner, all of who many voiced their concerns over. What are their statuses now at LFC? Gone, on their way out, not wanted, may leave. Having known all that, I will apologize to no one for voicing my concerns about GW or any player for that matter. it is up to them to convince us and not for me to support them blindly. Of course, we will give him a chance to prove us wrong as I am open to that. What choice do we have? But to say voicing concerns over a player while we have the afore mentioned track record to go by, is ludicrous because as they say, "Those who have learnt nothing from history are doomed to repeat it". We shall see if we`ve learnt anything.


15.) 22 Jul 2016 15:34:41
The fine line between mere opinions v undue criticism and slating is what most of the true fans on this forum I believe take offence to. My bet is you are no more qualified than the rest of us or fit to clean the boots of the man making the decisions on the park. So just say: "I remain to be convinced" and leave it at that. Then hopefully you get convinced and take a rest.


16.) 22 Jul 2016 15:46:27
Moreover - in generalist in terms, none of the players you mention are in fact lacking levels of quality in some regard, be it attitude and commitment, technical ability, physical presence, etc etc and all have had some level of success in their careers to date to offer a potential employer who can make them work out, not as individuals but as part of a team, for that employer. So I would actually argue that it is not so definitive that the players (save perhaps one or 2) we have brought in not being up to it but our ability as a club to man manage and combine their attributes into a team (after all it is a team sport not an individual one) . Someone in an earlier post made a very solid statement about the Leicester City TEAM of last year and the individuals within it. Similar but opposing comparisons can be made of a not so far back Real Madrid team full of top quality individuals but no team. So the point is take a bit of trust in the ability of Klopp and his coaches, etc to generate TEAM from a relatively good set of players with a solid mix of capabilities. I think you will find that is what our successful managers of the past did.


 

 

21 Jul 2016 12:50:56
Ed001, I know the opposition has been lower tier but what's your opinion of Grujic so far? Likely to be a starter for the first game of the season and if so who will lose their place?

johnnyr1970

{Ed001's Note - I don't watch friendlies any more mate. I learnt it was pointless a long time ago watching Voronin look special....}


1.) 21 Jul 2016 13:08:37
Edd001 what made voronin look special in friendlies lol?

{Ed001's Note - he played really well.}


2.) 21 Jul 2016 13:18:04
His hair was nice too.


3.) 21 Jul 2016 13:55:50
"That Goal" ed 1.


4.) 21 Jul 2016 14:35:50
I seen him at Crew Alex away in a pre season and he did play well. about the only time he did however.


5.) 21 Jul 2016 15:12:18
Watched him score preseason v Lazio. Mind you Robbie Keane looked ok that game as well.


6.) 21 Jul 2016 15:15:09
"The Crow" was a legend (in Ukraine)


7.) 21 Jul 2016 15:16:54
Gorgeous hair.


 

 

09 Jul 2016 08:13:05
Neven Subotic seems to be being touted around a bit Eds - Middlesborough and Sunderland being the latest links I've seen as well as LFC - seems a bit odd, I thought he was a quality player but it looks like Dortmund want rid and aren't quoting vast sums. I don't watch any German football - safe to assume he's not as good as we think?

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 09 Jul 2016 10:30:26
He has had two serious knee injuries. It's destroyed his career, bender was even starting ahead of him at centre back. Would be a shocking signing.


 

 

 

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06 Mar 2017 08:50:45
As Torino's owber values him at €150m I don't see that happening.

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14 Feb 2017 17:38:20
Trying to work out why folk think Martial is a top player. Utd committed to pay out £50m by all accounts and I've seen nothing that makes that look like good value.

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09 Feb 2017 07:40:22
Pointless, let the lad develop where he is instead of wasting his time in our academy.

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18 Jan 2017 16:42:49
Good research MK but still sounds too much money for a striker with an average goalscoring ratio and zero PL experience. I'm still giving him a miss.

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16 Jan 2017 21:13:22
Never heard of him TBH but a quick bit of research suggests some Chinese interest - I guess he'll end up there. Oh, and his scoring record isn't that great for a €32m striker either.

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18 Mar 2017 11:12:46
I think we need to pass the Sturridge burden onto someone else now - good player on his day but those days are to few and far between. I think we'll do well to get £10m for him with his injury record but his wages will be better paid to someone who plays. Saddens me to write this.

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08 Feb 2017 13:21:14
I get that Ed002 but wouldn't a better scouting team have said "Ok, he's one for the future - great - but we think you need one for right now as well"

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{Ed002's Note - Karius is not "one for the future" - he is Liverpool's first choice goalkeeper.}


 

 

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08 Feb 2017 08:31:46
Worst thing we did last summer was fail to sign a proven top quality keeper. It's fairly obvious that part of our problem in defence is that no-one has confidence in our current keepers be that down to them being rubbish (Mignolet) or inexperienced (Karius) .

It's OK Mignolet being the hero and saving the occasional penalty but his pish poor effort for the 1st goal on Saturday is his default setting and has been for the past 3 seasons.

Karius may come good - I hope he does - but we needed experience in summer not potential.

Bad decisions yet again by someone at the club.

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - Klopp got the goalkeepert he wanted in the summer.}


 

 

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04 Feb 2017 21:32:25
We should have spent £25m on the best keeper we could find last summer instead of spending it on Wijnaldum. Our team has such glaring defficiencies in that position that I fund it difficult to believe the 'experts' running the club can't see it.

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01 Feb 2017 17:32:32
I still think we need a better keeper. Karius is one for the future, we need to bring someone experienced in to replace Migs and allow us to ease Karius in slowly. I know he saved a pen, which is good, but there was a howler for the goal and that's what he always gives us.

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